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show up J P. Jadrick, that's Jeff Lockerman. Tony Buselli Loggs is in tonight for Pete Frisco Pets in Kansas City Chasing. An m v P quarterback interviewer told so, um, thanks for sitting in tonight, lot sure. I mean, holy cow, were you guys like me over the weekend and stuff? Here's what's going on in the show tonight. We'll get to that in just a moment. Andrew Luck retiring and obviously the huge duds in the a f C South. We'll get back to Josh Allen's performance. That's been the

talk of the town over the weekend. I think until the Andrew Luck stuff. Some new defensive looks for this team. Where do the Jaguars offense stand after Week three of the preseason? Some cuts coming up down the line. Doug Marone hates this week, and we'll go around the national football leagues. Well, lots stick get to tonight, A jam pack program, busy weekend, busy and then actually wasn't that busy for the Jags? And just I think the the whole I mean the whole Andrew Luck thing, I think

shook the whole league. And then the controversy or the arguments about whether he's right wrong and different timing wise. And then the secondary thing, which is probably more important to this whole organization is wide open. The division become or it changes the look at the division because I thought the Colts were clearly the favorite after what they did last year and the roster, and I still think

it is a very good roster. And and but with Andrew Luck, I thought was the best quarterback, they were the favorite. Him gone, it changes a lot of things, a lot. It was an interesting weekend. I didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. I had a double check the tweet. Just somebody had asked me the question what I thought about Andrew Luck. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Because I was at the was the Bold Cities showcase b football games at Bowls and also somebody asking me about, Hey,

what do you think about Andrew Luck. I'm like, well, I think he's a great quarterback. What do you what do you mean? They're like, you just announced her. There was announced was he's gonna retire like whatever, and I just completely ignored it. And then I realized that it was true, and I was shocked, shocked, but I was like at that point, I still was like, let me

I just want to hear it from his mouth. And then when you saw the the video clip and the and the fans that were booing them and everything, You're like, come on on, I mean, I mean the fans, it was too much. It was disappointed that they did, but he was the franchise. He was the franchise, and it came out of nowhere, and you know, your first reaction is the wrong reaction, but it's an emotional reaction because

they're tied to their organization. They want to win, and so I'm not saying it's okay, but there I mean, I'm sure they woke up the next morning, We're probably regretted a little bit, but at the time, everybody was caught up in that moment, and it's not how this was supposed to go down. What we understand. He was supposed to talk to the team and announce it the next day at like three in the afternoon, and they got leaked somehow, and that was not how it was

supposed to be at all. Well, it was shocking, like Jeff said, But then if you as you look back at the timeline, what has gone on. Something is not right with his body, or how he is rehabbing it, or his body is responding, or what is going on mentally, like how he feels about the process, because I mean, he got a calf. The story was it was a caffe injury in March April when he started coming back

to work out, that still got it. That then went to a high ankle sprain and m R S. And he has practiced twice since March and combining O t AS in camp. So something was off. And you know this is after coming missing seventeen because of the shoulder, So his body is not responding. And I think mentally, if you listened to what he said, he just couldn't do anymore. And it's not just a season process, it's a year round process. But here's the thing. I want

to say something because a lot of guys go through that. Listen, rehabs a year round thing. Playing the NFL's a year round and so what it told me, and this is okay, I'm not being critical, it's fine, is that he fell in love out of love with football or and because the love of the game and what you do has to be high enough to deal with all the stuff

that goes into being able to play. And some point it shifted where the pain in the rehab and the mental the mental anguish and all the things that go into doing your job as a professional athlete in the NFL and as a quarterback that got bigger than how he felt about the game. And I want to clarify something. Tony's not saying he doesn't love the game, but the pain and the discomfort and the bad feelings exceed the level of love that you have. He fell out, But

that's falling out of love with it. It's not. That's not negative, it's not doesn't make like I heard read things. Though he's soft, he's not watch Andrew Luck play, he's anything but soft. Remember one year in my career that that I was close to where he was at. And it was the year before I came here, and I had a shoulder that I was playing with that needed reconstructing. I had torn PCL on my left knee. I never missed a game. But playing like that and living like

that on a week to week basis, that's fun. No fun. And at the end of the season you have rehab and then then you're like, you start feeling better and you start feeling better about where you're gonna be at. But I mean, imagine Andrew Luck where he went through the rehab process for a couple of years with his shoulder and and now he has an issue that crops up with his with his leg and it's not getting better. I mean, that's got to be emotional training. And here

here's the other reality. The reality is in the National Football League and today than today's game. After seven years in the National Football League, he has made generational, life changing money. That's a fact. He's made more than a hundred million dollars and his seven years in the National Football and the in the clubs isn't going to take back the twenty four that they could take. So does does that factor in? Yeah, I mean it looks, but that's why. But Jeff, that's why. Money to where you

can say, look, I'm done. Yeah, but here's but this is why I think he fell in love with out of love with the game. Because there's a lot of guys that rehab year around. There's a lot of guys who deal with English. There's a lot of guys in this league and make a lot of money and they continue to do it. Why Because they love the game. That's what they love. That's I mean the past. Some guys love the game, Tony. Some guys love the money

and something. Some guys love everything that comes along with it. But my point is, but there's, like I got asked, is this gonna be something you're gonna see more and more of because of all the money these guys make. I don't think it is. You're gonna have it every once in a while. I mean I remember it was

like four or five years ago. The linebacker for the Forts, the starter can't remember his name, and he had a couple of concussions and he retired out of the blue when he was in the midst of his career and everyone's like, oh my gosh, CT and concussion scares, and you're gonna have all these guys he was draft like second year, everyone's gonna start retiring because of the fear.

It's just me a trend. It's hasn't happened since. And Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck, and he is a guy that wanted to do other things more than play the game of football. But every guy in the NFL goes through a process of the physical toll and the mental all on their bodies. And I appreciate the fact that he was raised right and he didn't have his identity solely attached to football, and he was able to make

a decision for himself. Good for him. Well, the only thing that would have been and I agree with you. And the other reason I'll say that, obviously something where the game just lost its luster is because he very easily could have gone on I R and they offered it to him, or you could have taken another eight or nine weeks, no pressure of getting back, take your time, get healthy and and come back for the end. And

he didn't even want to do that. So he was done mentally, he was finished playing football and he couldn't do it anymore. And if you know that, you don't need to go out and you don't need to continue. And so that's where I actually I with Jeb. I respect the fact that he knew he was done. He couldn't do it anymore, He couldn't drive himself mentally and physically to get ready to play a game because he didn't love it enough Anymore's and that's not a criticism,

that's just a fact. The only the only thing that I've heard people say the frustration isn't and it's fair enough is why did he wait till the very right before the season to do it and put the organization in the position that he did. My point that is, if you'd if you'd have done it right before training camp, what's different. They're not finding another quarterback. I mean, they're

not going here here. Here's the reality. Though he probably didn't come to that conclusion until he actually made the decision and called the team right, you know, I mean, looks sometimes things happen like that, you know, in an off season. I'm sure that he's like, oh, this is okay, because he actually said that the season was one of the most rewarding seasons he's ever had, so he obviously had fun the year and then to go back into that, Uh, I don't think he called like a dark place of

that cycle. I mean it was just too much for whatever. I mean, look here, here's the thing, what he has said. I take for exactly what has said. I don't read anything into it. I don't try to decipher anything out of it because I don't get the impression that what Andrew Luck tells you and what is reality are two different things. I believe that he's a totally honest guy

and he's up front. Doug Maron asked about this yesterday, in fact, that his press conference at the start of the practice week and an opposing head coach in the division thinking about the other team's quarterback. I know how difficult it is, I know how difficult this game is. I don't know how great, great of a competitor is. So um, I felt it was unfortunate. You know that, you know, injuries are you know, taking part of it, and I'm sure it must have been very, very difficult

for him. Um, just just a loss for the game. There's Doug Marone with you know what a quote there that kind of summed it up pretty easy, I think right there, and it is. It is because he's a really good football, great football player, great quarterback. UM loved his competitive nature, everything about it about him, and he played hard. Everything you read, he was a great teammate and everything. Obviously just a smart guy. Did it right. Here's the reality. The game goes on. That's right. I

mean that's not. I mean it's a shock now, but nobody's gonna be thinking about it week one. Jacoby Brissette is not worried about this when he lines up. Nobody, the players and the coaches are going to be thinking about it. But but look, this is this is one of the I would say, the most notable early retirements from the NFL in NFL history. Bigger than Jim Brown, and he's right up there, Barry Sanders right up there. Just so you know, both of those guys are Hall

of famers. He's not going to the Hall of Fame. I still say that this is right up. I mean it's big. You're talking about a franchise quarterback ten years and his prime play for our ten years. I mean, absolutely, it's as big as those guys I'm saying, But it's not everyone's it's the biggest because it's happening to us now. Ten years from now, it will still be ranked right up there when we ranked up there. But to say it's the biggest ever is who said biggest? Said the quote?

You said biggest. There you go again, playing them wax out of your Earry Sanders was a big one. That's the one I remember when I was he was a big one. There's no yead as one of the biggest. Absolutely, it's a it's a huge, biggest, absolute franchise quarterback, one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he was healthy, top five quarterback probably and decided to hang it up. He was a big deal. And he was seven and three against the Jaguars. Here's here's the other thing that

makes it big. I mean from a from a financial standpoint, you're talking about a guy that's walked away from ballpark of three hundred million. Yeah, two to three for sure. Let me think about it. I mean, guys made a hundred three million, and if he had ten more years of playing in the National Football League, his earnings would have probably been two the minimum going up minimum two other things. I mean, I mean, look, I mean that that's that's that's the reality. So I think it that

that makes it pretty big huge. Yeah, we've got plenty to get too. On the program, will discuss the rest of the a f C South Division changes that changes in the division that there was some other news from some other teams. Will get to those coming up a little later. We'll get into Josh Allen's night in Miami on Thursday night. We'll come back and get into Nick Foles night. His debut was a Jaguars quarterback. That was

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Is my first time wearing you know, the Jaguars uniform in a game. Um, and that you know is emotional in itself. UM, so that was a good first step forward. Um. We're able to, you know, move the ball a little bit touchdown. Obviously we want to score more points and you know, there's things that we'll learn from. But all and all, it was great just being out there with the guys today. Nick Foles, you might have heard of him,

Jaguars quarterback after the game Thursday night in Miami. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Our presented by Jet Homelands, j P Shadrick, Tony Baselli, Jeff Lagoman, and Tonight for Pete Prisco. He's in Kansas City chasing Mahomes around, so he he need he needs the extra time to chase him around apparently, So that's okay. Hey, it's a big story. So hopefully Pete can get a little inside scoop that we could use. That's not his job, I don't think, right, no matter

if it's his job or still steal stuff. He's a neutral guy, allegedly, right he is. Yeah, I think he's pretty neutral. Pretty coming up before we go. I'm looking at you got this board here, Jeff, Yeah, I'm looking at what about the game in Atlanta. You have a lot of names on here you don't really need. They're really a waste of time. Like you put a lot of work into this, it's a waste. I'm not sure

why you have Clay's Campbell's name on the board. So for those on radio, he's gonna play that has a depth chart of defense on one team and offense and the other team Ryan, No, No, I didn't need to put it on there. Woh you know he might play you think we're see Julio, Yeah, I mean this is what a waste. This was just and just use the board was a more room, right about the guys that are gonna make the teams there on game night, I think it's I think I will say this real quick

about the last preseason game. For for the guys that are playing, that's got to be a bad feeling. Don't let me forget let me say this about it. It's a bad feeling from the standpoint of if you're playing, no, you're on the bubble. You're on the bubble at best, more than likely you're not gonna make it. If you're sitting, you're on the team based then at the same token, you want to play your best because this is a watch, yeah,

that somebody else might see. So it's gotta be kind of bitter sweet for the guys that are playing in this fourth preseason game. You know so, but look, God bless him. I hope that they play well. I hope they make a team somewhere. So what it's about just talking. We'll hear from some of the guys that are kind of on the bubble in the locker room yesterday. In fact, coming up a little later on the program tonight, we'll get to Josh Allen coming up a little bit later

and his night with some reaction to that. Yeah, we called the postgame the overreaction hour, but it was it was a nice night for him. We'll get to that coming up. Offense. Just heard from the quarterback. What do you guys stand on on the offense now? After the four drives you saw the other night, are you more less or the same amount of comfortable with what this JAG's offense is going to be? You wanna go first? I'm not more. I'm I'm just I'm not at the

same point like I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see. I'm waiting to see as well. Yeah, I'm like that didn't do. He had two three interceptions and the play drive that was eighted by penalties, and the running game still looks not very good to me. Now. The funny thing is, you go back to seventeen Jeff and I said, this team is not gonna be able to run the ball. The run game stinks there. Their offensive lines really struggling. Because that's in seventeen. They couldn't move it an inch

and they had the starters aft the whole time. And then they go to Houston and literally Pound crushed them and ended up having a very good rushing year as a team. Um. And so you never want to read too much into the preseason, so I'm not going to. But that didn't do much for me on Thursday night. And that's a that's a young, young Dolphins defense that's not viewed as one of the top it's a bad defense.

So uh, and they were missing some starters on defense, so uh, it was good to see and it was good to see the starters get out there and play a little bit. And it was even better to see that nobody got hurt for the most part, so that that was a positive. Yeah, dj Um, I think he's gonna be okay. I mean he's and I haven't they said anything about him, by the way, CUSSI protocol, I mean nothing about the knee, and they don't have to

say anything about it. Not. The only thing they said was protocol at the game, So it wasn't had nothing because they have no I mean nothing. At this point of the preseason, you're not going to talk about injuries unless you have to, because now you're starting to get to get close to the games when they count, so you're gonna be pretty close to the vest with the information that you have. So but I mean, it didn't

look like a need to me. It was just like he just his mind and his feet weren't working together, and then he got at the beginning kind and it wasn't. He just s thought, for whatever reason, looked to you guys, I thought he looked I thought he I thought he looked good once he kind of got out of that, because I think there's an adjustment period when you go into the preseason game because you're you're a practice speed and then you have to kind of relearn the tempo

and the speed of a real game. And I thought that once he kind of got going to the tempo, I thought he was really good. The first couple of series wasn't so good. I'd like to see him catch that one ball that he had an opportunity in the flat and I know that you know there was a defender that was right there, but it would have been a one on one opportunity. And also look, he could have made the guy miss and maybe have gotten the first down. I don't know, but I thought he looked solid.

And I thought he looked solid when he did get out there in the in the past in the flat, he made a nice contact with the guy knocked him down, got an extra five or so. Yeah. I mean that was when you could kind of tell that look, Okay, now it's game speed and he's bringing it. I thought the offensive line got better as the game progressed. Wasn't good enough, No, I don't think it was good enough.

I thought that John Taylor, who had I want to say, like nineteen snaps somewhere in that range, because he was out there with the ones, he might have even had more than that. He had a little deeper what he went second, he went all the way and he had twenty thirty seven snaps. I thought he was okay, but there are some things that he needs to do with his hands to can to be better. He lets his

hands get outside sometimes. And I hate to say this, I thought Cam Robinson had a solid night, but he also had this one play where I saw him extend that leg out again, which was kind of a footwork A footwork issue last year. Um, I don't know, Tony, if you saw it or not, but it was one play in particularly kind of he started to round his set instead of continued to kiss. Very good. I talked about the game really opened up quickly. We had six plays. Um, I don't how do you feel about it when you

talked to him? Good? He felt good. Physically great? Yeah, physically looks good. He felt good. Physical not very good in the game. Um, I thought you wanna Taylor played great for his first game. You gotta keep it in perspective. I mean, just right, these things to work with, but as far as doing your all, as far as doing your job blocking people strong, he did a great job strong. I thought will Richardson take the two uh false steps, starts away what you can't do. I mean, obviously that's

part of it. I thought he was okay. I think he's better than a j can right now. I think there's more upside. I think they're even. I think you'd go with the more upside. But it wasn't nearly as good as the previous week with with Will Richardson. That's a fact. But he's physical, he's big, he's athletic. He gets his back flat, which means he moves people. UM put him him in Jowana on the same side that two big, strong road traders. Now, so I like that.

I wouldn't be surprised if you know he's starting. But here here's I think the the tight end position concerns. And Jeff Swain was back in the practice. We haven't seen any tight ends that are gonna be on the active rock, you understand. I mean that's the problem. That's because it's not like there's no doubt. It's not like you have Tony Gonsols and Shehannon's sharp you know, off to the side. Way didn't block anybody. All he did

was catch pass. Okay, you don't want either, but Gronk, Yeah, I'll take Gronk or you don't want Oh no, I just I don't want a Hall of Famer. Yeah, no, I don't want other Hall of Famer. But but I think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens against Kent's City on what is that September eight at the right guard position, because you know, with a Juwan Taylor

at right tackle, there's a rookie. Do you feel better about having an A j Can who has a lot of games under his belt now in his fifth season beside him, or do you go you know what, let's go with Will Richardson, who is in his first kie. You don't have any experience. Let me grow together kind of well, I mean let him grow together is one idea. Or the other thing is, hey, look we've got a rookie.

Let's get some experience next to our rookie right tackle and you feel a little bit more comfortable in that safe zone with a j king. Put the best guys out there, put your best five out there. But it's a resting debate. I'm with Tony went I'm with Tony. The idea is to be at your best by the time you get in the playoffs. I mean, obviously you want to get in the playoffs, but the roof is higher, the ceiling is higher with Whereward Richardson. In my opinion,

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O I two thousand. For twenty five years, we've been cheering on our Jaguars with an unwavering loyalty and commitment. To celebrate this milestone season, swing by gate and cheers to twenty five years The Jaguars twenty fifth anniversary collectible cop only at Gate. Grab your thirty two cup today and fill it up with your favorite found drink for just a dollar five. Then refill any time for cents while supplies last. Gate serving up more. Yeah, I did. I missed a few too, but that was the one

I'm gonna remember most, I'll tell you that. But uh, you know I felt better, you know today, Me and plays had a long top before and he definitely had my mind and thinking about what I need to do and how I need to do it. So um so lose to him and a mon the saline talking to me too, So you know it was a good day to day. Josh Allen in the locker room in Miami after his fantastic first half of the Jaguars preseason Week three Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

We'll find out tonight if he can throw strikes or not. He's throw on the first pitch at the Jumbo Shrimp game tonight. Awesome. They're playing the Mobile BayBears tonight. Have you done that throughout a first pitch? I did one time at the jum No, no, no not. The Jumbo Shrimp Hill was a high school game. I did the Jumbo Shrimp. I bounced it to the plate by the Yeah. Yeah, so I did it at the Jumbo shrimp back then there with the suns. Now the jumper. Is that your

bad shoulder? You're right arm, it's my left. I wouldn't have gone. I wouldn't even showing up and uh the U. So you get there and they and JP. You know this because so they tell you you can throw like five steps in front of the mound. I can't do that, can't do that. You're there to So they said, they said here, throw up here. I said, there's not a chance you got going to the rubbers. Yeah, I did the whole thing. Strike Get out of here. Give me my word, how hard was it? I mean it was

was not lollipop. It was on a line. Really, but I would say sixty maybe, I mean it was it was gonna be. It was. They'd been practicing for No, I'm throwing the baseball for years and but I mean I grew up playing baseball and pitched, and uh, junior high. My right shoulders the one I had reconstructed. There's twice even did it. I had to try try and I said I was like you. They're like, you can screwt up a little bit. I'm like, I'm not doing that.

I'm going for the man. I would rather bounce it or roll it to the plate than they didn't screw it up and I bounced it, So I was I was quite content with it to be six six inches. Let's go. Is that what it is? I do? A strike? That was what is the first base nine? Okay, that's what you say. Me clarify this. When I say a strike, the catcher did not have to get out of his stance to catch it. That's a strike. I mean, I don't like it was an actual I call that it's strike.

If they swing at it, to remember that miss. There's that's one thing. Man. You don't realize this is not I'd like to see that Josh Allen tonight seven five. But Jeff sitting on that mound and throwing it thinking there's a batter. They're swinging as hard as you can. I mean, those guys, you gotta have some you actually have to do, not have to be tough, you just have to have no brain or thought that that ball can come back and hit you. Because if you're thinking

about that, you can't throw, You're done. You'll have the yips. You can't throw. It's like they just have to It's an actual issue. Yeah, they just have to block that stuff out. I mean, I assume that they don't. You got through a good pitch. Is that way you don't get hit? Well, it doesn't matter major ly. Hitters are coming back at you one way, sooner later money who's been hit by a comebacker before, and that is a real mental girdle to come back from some guys. Yes,

sooner or later it's coming up. It's coming right back at you. So, Josh Allen, that was the whole genesis of that conversation. Tonight throw the first pitch of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp against the Mobile Bay Bears seven oh five, the first pitch time tonight umi the biggest overreaction in the preseason I can remember. You think he had a great first half to Okay, go over what he did. He had a couple of tackles for loss to hit the quarterback twice, two of them, what four tackles to

total tackles. Um was in around almost a lot of the place most of the plays, I would say, and he was physically u uh powerful against the run. Yeah, I thought he was stout when you did. When the announcer didn't call his name, he looked good. So I thought he played very well. And I think Josh Allens gonna be a fabulous football player. I really do. I think. I think it's a great pick. I've said it all along. I still think he has a ways to go as

a pass rusher. Um, he's not as like when you and I when Unique came in here, he was more finished as a pass rusher. Would you not agree? Jeff and me? He was eight with his hand use and like from Yeah, Josh Allen is a physical I'm not talking about but I'm talking hand used and moves and everything else like that. Josh Allen needs to continue to progress there. He's me fabulous. The offensive line Dolphins is the worst in the NFL and the tackles he was

playing against are atrocious. The first play that didn't even block him. Yeah, and so I'm not taking anything away from him. It was a great night, and I think Josh Allen is going to be a outstanding player, maybe has an opportunity to be rookie defensive Rookie of the Year, you know, based on his just pure physical ability in his in his uh, his knack to be around the ball.

I want to take a big deep breath. I mean you if you listen to Twitter and some of the reactions from the local media, like let's put him in like all Pro Hall of Fame, like he's like the greatest player on defense. Is going to like all the stud like all of the sudden, it's like l T s we have LT on the field. I'm like, well, well, wait, back up his second. The kid, it's a rookie learning. Let's not set I don't want to set these unreal expectations. And he gets into the regular season and and like

a lot of rookie starts a little slow. So all you're saying is, let's not give our let's not give ourselves a speeding tickets. Okay, but you're still excited about good because you were kind of starting to shave my blood. No, no, no not. I think Josh I said this from the beginning. I love the pick. I love watching practice. He's a

physical specimen. If he continues to work in like he does because he listens to the veterans, he's working at his craft, and he continues to do that and gets a couple of pass rushing moves, the guys would be very very good. Yeah, he'shnula be outstanding. But I'm like, let's I'm not in the opinion that he needs to

find pass rushing moves. I mean, I think they'll come with time, the ones that where he has a patent move, but his his pass rushes speed and also the ability to bend, spin and then work either side of the tackle. Does he have a patent and move like in gock Way right now? Now? My point is how to use the speed and then go speed to power. If he just does that, I'm not talking about he has to become like the you know, figure out how he's gonna spin like von Miller or or get that you know

hump moved like Greggy White or Unique. I think he could handle all of the moves at some point. Got that kind of saying right now, learn to have a game plan, which he's progressing of going in using your speed and go speed to power. You're gonna give up most tackles in this league. Trouble. I was excited to see the very first snap where they went to a

three four. That was the first play of the game right, first player of the game, first play of the game, and it was kind of it was kind of weird because they started out with leon Jacob's out there, which, by the way, they ran three four with leon Jacob's out there too, but the very first play they had leon Jacobs out there and then they run him off the field. I'm going, what are they doing? Or do

they set? And then I saw Josh Allen running out there, and I was going, wait a minute, they're not subbing

to Nickel, so what are they doing? And then that's why I was paying attention to the lineup, and I was like, oh my gosh, that's a three four, and so what they essentially do when they go to a three four number one, you're getting one of your best players on the field, which is Josh Allen, at the same time as you have another one of your best players on the field at same time, which is Yaniqueckway, and and Gockway, from what it looked like, played the

sam outside linebacker and then Josh Allen played what would be the will outside linebacker on the three four. Either that or they're just playing left and right because he likes the right side better. Yeah, So I don't know because if John was on John was on the left side. I thought he was on the right now, And when he went three four, he was on the left side,

which is so they're playing Sam and Will. They're not playing left and right, which in it's which they probably could play left and right if they wanted to, which would make some sense. I would the right every time because it's a better past n a better pass rush on the right side. Tony's right on that. So but it was cool. I think they had maybe four, maybe five snaps of of what I would call three four defense.

If they only did it once with those guys right, No, they did it uh twice with in Gockway and Josh Allen as the outside backers, and then they did it another two times with Leon. Yeah, I knew that, So twice twice there there was four four that I counted in the game of of true what I thought were snapping against twelve or twenty one personnel. So against base package back it wasn't It wasn't a sub or anything

like that. Now when they went to sub which is their nickel package, and a lot of people at at times we're thinking that it was a three four, but it's the stand up package is a spinner, you know, where he's the what I always call Lawrence Taylor made it famous back in the day when he would stand up and rush from anywhere, walk around, and that's kind

of what in Gockway does sometimes. And they have you know, Klaius and Josh Allen down and then Marcel or Abrien as the nose tackle and then Yahn's walking around rushing you like I act you don't like you on at that position as much effective, and I'm I'm with you. But at the one time that they did have them, that was when Josh Allen came free underneath and got a hit on the quarterback. That's a little bit of

a game. So I like it, but it's not something it doesn't need to be your staple for Janick and Gockway in my opinion, in that three four and Gockway, Allan on the outside, Avery in the middle, Calais and it would have been Marcel Darius correct, but it was Taven And then in that game, that's right, that's pretty good vibe right there. Look, you're getting your best, you're getting your best players on the field. And during the

game they played a lot of man coverage with that. Uh, are they gonna do other things out of that shore They can. They can do whatever they want out of that because in Gockway and and Josh Allen can drop in coverage. As you could see from watching Josh Allen make that tackle out in space on the flat throw when it was a fire zone when they were running a four three fire zone, which is one of the more impressive plays still talks about. It's like unblocked hits

to the quarterback or unblocked tackle for a loss. Those are like great. I mean, every good player gets unblocked at times, and they got you gotta capitalize because not all guys can't even when they're unblocked. What was most impressive at Twitter and seventy pounds of operating in space and making the open field tackle in the athletic ability that I saw on that play that was more impressive

than anything else. Let me add something that play, what I thought was as as impressive as the athletic ability. When he's lining up, he's in a two point stance and he he looks like he's coming and he also takes a peek to the outside before the snap and he's goin to get an idea of the lay of the land. That little peak allowed him to know that there was traffic coming. So when he has to drop, the back is flaring out of the backfield and then

he has to get to the flat to cover them. Well, there was a wide receiver in Trey Herndon that were there, but he knew that he would have to get cleaned by them to avoid them to get to the flat to make that play. But to have the awareness of getting clean by that to get to the flat to make that tackle, which shows the athleticism I thought was

was great. A yeah, because when you when you add there was a lot of In fact, early in my career there was a guy I'm not I'm not going to name his name, but he had so much athleticism and talent it was unbelievable, but he had no awareness and so pretty limited. If the guy had awareness, he i would have never gotten a starting job my rookie year. And uh, but that's good to see out of out of him, because that's typically something that a player doesn't

get until a few years down the roads. Well sometimes they never get it, that's right, And I think that's that's all part of the conversation we're having about Tavin awareness Awareness awareness, right, I mean, you know, does he have it? Well, we we got to see what else on defense stood out. We're talking about Tavin that the two penalties were bad, I mean bad. I mean that's that's just being smart, and that that was not smart football.

And you know, obviously it's a reaction to the criticism that he's been under or the pressure that he feels because you know, he had the interview last week and he was talking about how you know, you're gonna see more of the real me and all this, and well, I hope that's not more of the real hymn getting

the penalties. And it's a shame tony because one of the penalties that he had had a great move, I mean power move, grabs a guard, throws, pushes him back, pulls him forward and does a pull rip swim and gets by him and then he chases down the quarterback and it hits him and it was clear it wasn't like, oh I'm not sure the ball was gone. It was right in front of him and he still that's when he took like two or three steps and he and he pushed Fitzgerald and he falls down the great Patrick

independalty Fitzpatrick and in the penalty comes out. I mean, that's that was not a smart play. That that can't happen. It's concern for me the depth of the defensive line and at the three technique. No, Marcel Darius has been out with an injury. Um, he I believe it. I read the report today. Didn't practice today again, So he's not gonna play this week, which is fine, you didn't expect him anyways. But if Martin cel Darius isn't ready,

you're starting Tavin Bryant. And I don't know about Jeff, but there's not a lot that I've seen this camp that gives me a lot of confidence that the consistency's gonna be there. Um with him starting as your three technique, but he needs to be better. I mean, there's no doubt in easy. How do you feel, I mean, Jeff, if you're going to the season with Tavin Bryan's you're starting three on this defense, I'm not I'm not freaked out,

but I'm not happy. I can tell you that because Marcel Darius is a very aware, big, strong guy, whereas Tavin's still he's still trying to learn that stuff and and to go with Tony said, hopefully this is something that he does learn. Doug Maron asked about Tavin bryan in and if he took a step back in the game on Thursday night. Here's Duge response. You just gotta fight. I mean, that's the one thing. And if you don't, you know, if you give up on yourself, will health

How's how's anyone else going to really? Um, you know, keep you along. So you know, Tavin's you know, he's he's had a set back. Um, he's probably disappointed, you know, but hey, he's gotta you know, get his mind right and go because there was some things he was doing earlier that that we're really exciting and really would really be able to help our football team. So uh, and that's what he wants to do. So you know, strap it up and get your ass out there and go play.

It doesn't really sound like it doesn't really sound like a message from the head coach. It's like overly endorsing. It's a far cry from what he said after the first preseason game. I can tell you that sure he was. He was talking ab up after that first game point, which I thought was yes, thank you, but do you have it? I just think you talk. We talked about these things and talked about awareness. We talked about me

on the big plays. I mean, Tavin Bryant is a maybe the strongest guy on the team, UM, A physical, tough, all those things, but the instincts of awareness to make plays we have not seen. And you talk to people that watch him at Florida they said the same thing. That was like the knock coming out right. I mean, Jeff, you watched the tape. That was it. He was always close, always close. And so now if that's without more subdarious um, I mean, he's your starting three and your depth isn't

real good there. Let's come back. We'll touch on special team standouts when we come back. Also still to come the second hour, will get into the offensive line a

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I'm good to visit with Joe, of course. Yeah, he's he's uh, one of the one of the best special teams coaches I think in the National Football League and does a really good job and for thirty years. Well, in this game that's coming up on Thursday night, there's a lot of evaluation that's going to be going on in his department to determine whether or not guys are gonna make the team or not. It's a lot of chaos two for him. Yeah, Like those guys are gonna

ninety man roster. You probably have seventy that are available for special teams. Yeah, and like, like, let's be honest, they're gonna have fifty three guys. They're keeping nine on press squad at least half of those who come from other teams. Let's say three or four. Let's say between practice squad and the other. Um, you're gonna have eight guys from other teams come. So that leaves you at fifty five guys out of the ninety are gonna make

it that are out there right now. That's forty five guys are gonna be accountants and you know, and lawyers and other things. I mean, but my point is not in the NFL come Saturday, and those are the guys that Jody Camillis and the rest of this group has to coach up. And special teams is always the hardest because it's moving and it's a lot of rotation, and it's not uh substitution like is in a rhythm like offensive defense, because you go out there for a series

and you kind of have your play. It's like sudden all right, punting, like this guy's down or this guy's out, Like who okay, who's that gunner. There's gonna be a lot of tired guys in the game on Thursday night because of the amount of guys that won't play. Leave the guys that will be playing, they've got to play on defense or all offense, and they got to play on special teams. And that was Joe point in the

clip of here coming back. How do you balance playing time on offense defense with special teams time to look in the last preseason game, you're balancing it with guys that aren't gonna be on your roster, and you're just going, hey, bub you're you're playing, you know, so get ready and drink lots of water this week leading up to the game.

But there's probably probably four three or four guys that are going to be playing that are that need to have good performances on on special teams and their positional group to be able to make this roster. I mean, like maybe like a guy like c J Board or Trading Pride or Robinson the Corner. I think Josh Robinson, I think he's uh. I think there you don't think he has to do anything this week. I mean he's done everything every week to me for me, I mean,

so for me, I wouldn't. I would. I don't need anything to anything seen from him. And it's not like he's a He's been doing it for time and he gets it. I would probably consider sitting him just because, you know, if you didn't have depth at that corner

defensive back position, I would consider playing him. But I think he got enough depth there to where if he's gonna be on the roster, that you keep him because he's shown to me that he can play special teams, he can play safety, and he can play corner, and that versatility it has, has a lot of value when you're talking about making the decision on a guy who's gonna make a final roster spot. Much like when we were in Baltimore, who's that big fullback slash defensive tackle

or one card and he was good full back? Now not recording me, I can't remember his name, but I'll find it out. But anyway, a guy like that that can play offense and defense and then play him both really pretty well and special teams lock. It's for example, if Terrell Prior could play special teams and play it well like a two twenty eight pound linebacker you might expect to play. So in other words, off Troull Prior, we could use his size or however how much he ways.

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locations or visit florend core dot com. Welcome back Second hour Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick Tony was selly per usual and Jeff Flagaman in with us. I'm here filling in for Pete Prisco tonight. Pete is not in South Florida. He is in Kansas City, hammering barbecue and chasing a quarterback around hammering barbecue. So he'll be back with us next week, which I mean he's like eating a lot of barbecues. Yes, yes, that's what that is. So, um,

well he'll be back with us. Logs. Great to have you. Good to be here, um, good to be anywhere, good to be right point. That's it's just good to be anywhere. That's what Keith Richards said at the concert the other Um, so all right, here we go, uh, second hour of Jaguars Happy Are coming up, we'll go around the National Football League. We'll touch on the a f C South, not only Andrew Luck, but some other storylines of other

teams on the division. The last a week or so, it's been a busy week in the a f C South. Let's continue our offensive line conversation. We touched on this group earlier and kind of talked about the game and Cam Robinson snaps in the battle at right garden. All let's I want to say one more thing about Camer Robinson. Yes, he's a still a young player who really has played one year. Right in the game and a half, Yeah, not half a game. It was the first quarter he

got hurt. Um, how do you feel about him coming back and you know, starting sixteen games off the a c L after having six plays in the preseason. Uh, I'm not very comfortable with it. I was thinking the same thing now, I think camp My position of Cam's ever changed. I think he's immensely talented. I love his nastiness,

he's physical, he's tough. I just think his footwork has been just really average at best and what gets him in trouble And Um, I'm not gonna make any judgments from the six plays we saw, but it wasn't good. But that's okay, I mean, coming back from a c L, just just beat out there. Yeah, just yeah. I'm like, I don't want to be critical. Really he's working hard, but that has to get better, and his conditioning is

not going to be where it needs to be. I mean, I'll tell you right now, I've I've done it playing temporary teen plays in the preseason coming off in a c L and I was seven and a half months and his is gonna be almost eleven um. But you're the for that first few you're like that first game sucking wind. I mean it's I mean, by the way, you're playing against a pretty damn good player in Frank Clark. He's pretty good. Yeah, and so I'm I'm a little

worried about that. H I think that's interesting. I think now let me I'll talk about this, and we'll talk about this to falling week JP with Pete and Jeff and I will talk about on Thursday Night show. Leading up to the game. I think if you're John D. Philippo, you have the game plan for that. I mean, that's a game plan and then and you better hope you got your rookie, right, a rookie on the other side. Okay, right now, who are you more confident in? BA? I'm

more confident in Juan Taylor's past protection. My point is you have to pick one. You have to get like, if you want to actually sing guys out in the past route, you gotta pick one. Now. The one good thing is if you watch Philly in the past, and you watch a lot of teams, and we didn't do it for very much in the past. We did at times. I think John d Footballill do a good job of chipping on the way out with tight ends, formationing the

defense to help his tackles if they're struggling. And you can do that on both sides, but as far as like really helping and really game planning, you'd like don't have to do it on one side of the offensive line. I think you have to choose Cam Robinson early, just because he's coming off as a c L and as I've been thinking about this first quarter of the season, you know, we break it down the quarters at first

four games. Cam Robinson's gonna be work in progress, and I just want to set expectations if everyone listening, and that's normal he's a young player. Not being critical, he's a young player. Come up with a c L who hasn't a lot of reps with with that work in progress. We were just talking during a break about making the cuts on this offensive line. Let's assume that we have eight spots open. Okay, eight spots maybe nine, eight for sure.

And here and here's why I say, Hey, don't you want to keep one extra guy, maybe a tackle to help out if you need help with that tackle position. Well, depending on the depth, sometimes you'll keep nine. Absolutely. But here's here's why I say that is because the way he had a hamstring just today. Okay, um, do you expect him back? Yes? Maybe, Um, but you would like to have since Will Richardson is really no longer a tackle now he's competing that guard, do you now want

to have a backup tackle? So, and I know that Josh Wells, we haven't seen him get a lot of snaps in the preseason. Leonard Wester has not been great in the preseason. Been Elana was brought in Layton camp, but Wester is clearly the number is clearly guy the second tackle. Let me ask you this, Tony, I'm just telling you what by the depth charts and playing time. And I'm not saying it would you would you would he be a part of you would not listen? We can all agree on these ones right here, which is

our starters. Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lender, A J Can and Will Richardson will put both of them in there. So that's five cedrical boy he is six and Juwan Taylor you're starting right tackle is seven? Seven? Uh one Shatle. I'll say this, Shatley, I thought was gonna be on his way out, but I think you're going anywhere. I don't think. I think he's back. You can snap, you can play guards. I've got eight right there. Well. The reason why I say Shatley I think is a lock

is number one. Uh. Brandon Lender has not been able to play sixteen games and in quite some time. So I'd like to have a guy that can start at center. He's ever done it? Maybe not, but you want to have a guy that can start at center weekend a week out, and Tyler Shatley has proven that he can do that. A J. Cann is taken snap apps, I would feel more comfortable with a J. Cannon the role if he's not starting, He's gonna be a swing guy

for games. What about McDermott, good question. He's played well in the preseason, hasn't practiced great, good question, And hasn't played much in the preseason. But when he has, he's done pretty good out there. Yeah, he's done pretty good job. But would wouldn't you want to have another tackle of because then Brandon Thomas has been talked a little bit about by the coaching staff. They kind of like him.

Darnal Green for a while was hot and he's probably a practice a practice squad guy, anybody as far as the active roster, Yeah, no, Donnelle Green is not going to make the active roster. He's he's a practice squad guy. He was a tackle at Minnesota and now they've moved him into guard. He is a practice squad type of guy. We ask you this, if you know, if there's the concern about Cam that you just talked about, you know, he's hurt in a Blaze's banged up week one. Still,

that's my point. Do you keep nine now going into the season, Wells as an extra guy or West or whoever they like, somebody might keep both. Let me ask you just because bodies we got eight. If you had, if you could keep nine, Tony bull Sell, who would you want to have? Is your nine? And we're assuming Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lendner, Tyler Shatley, A J. Camwell, Richardson,

Cedricoboyhey and Joan Taylor? Are your eight? All right? If you're asking me, because I'm saying, who can if I have to get someone to go play left tackle for one game to get me, you're saying is if you had nine roster I'm thinking about it, then I would right now. And I know this is not the view of the coaching staff. And I only know this because based on playing time is I would pick Welles before

I put Wester. So would I. But if you look at what the uh George Warhop, the offensive line coach, and Doug Morone and how they've structured the playing time in the preseason, Western is clearly ahead of Josh Wales. I don't see it now. I don't watch every practice. I'm not in the meetings. I don't know just from the games, just from the game stuff it I'm watching and practice the practices I've seen, I think Wells I'd feel more comfortable with Wells because the athletic ability Western

is more powerful, no doubt about it. But movement he struggles with. And he guys get on the edge really fast. We saw it on the interception play at the holding to save Nick Foles. He almost died Nick well Yeah, West was the greatest penalty I've ever seen anyone commit because Nick Foles was about to get hammered. And so I would feel better about Wells because I think you have an issue right now at left tackle. Juwan Taylor is not a left tackle, never played it. He's the

right tackle. I think he played a little bit of it in Florida, is early, in his very early. I know he's the right tackle I'm saying I don't. I think it's just like spot duty, um, where he is hurt. Way he struggled. I mean both tackles, especially at left tackle. We saw struggle against the Eagles. How bad is the hamstring? We don't know. We don't even know how bad practice

And say, um, will Richardson is a right tackle. What I'm saying, But if he had to play tackle, he could play right tackle for you, because that was the idea when it came in. But he's gonna I mean, I'm as I'm thinking through these scenarios and like, who's gonna play left tackle on the roster? Well ways hurt Jewan Taylor is not he's your right tackle. Will Richardson is a right tackle. I don't think he's ever even played left tackle and he's probably starting right guard. Left.

Who's left it? You got? You got the choice of really three guys wester Well wester Wells or Alana and I haven't seen the left or if if there's a guy on waiver wires there's not left left tackle, let me say this, left tackles, don't put it this. You know you're picking up a Lana or wester if you were to keep Wells if you're another team, probably not not unless it was dire straits, yeah, dire straits or desperate Yeah, I think it's a call for desperate measures,

you know. But it's right, Logs. We'll get your mic back on in just a moment here. These are perfect, just got better here, but that it's it's an interesting conversation. Really can go down to the wire here an opening day. It's a concern and who's up and down and healthy and not It is a real concert. The left tackle position has been a concern of mine all camp. It

continues to be a concern. And I'm not and if Cam Robinsons listen to this, this this has nothing to do with whether I think Cam Robinson is a good player or not. He's a young player. Come off in a c L in the first in the first few games, he's gonna be it. It's gonna be a bat. He's af the battle and it's not gonna be easy, and he knows it. And that's okay. He's a competitor. But right now, you don't have an answer if something were to happen to Cam Robinson and answer that, you're really

unless unless he's healthy, then he's the guy. Then he's the guy, and you can and you can listen away. As far as backup tackles, that's a good he's a good solution in this league is having a guy like nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm not I don't want them to start. I came to start, but um, it'll be interesting to watch and and we'll talk about

all week leading up to the Kansas City game. But that's a that's a that's something that John d Felippo is gonna have to and that offensive staff is gonna have the game playing for Frank Frank Clark coming to town. Jeff Logan was back with us, no welcome back anywhere. How did it become my issue because he's always passing the buck. I have nothing you blame that you are, that you are the biggest finger pointer, Like what a

bad teammate. I mean just points of thing. I don't know how you doing on the other shows, Jeff, but on this show, we don't point the finger. I take a yell at show responsibility for our action. I don't know about that. Wow, that's a fact. It's not a fact. I did nothing. This chord right here, Okay, see that one right there. Yeah, that'll see your big foot right there. That chord is attached to this right here, and you're pulling it away. I'm not pulling anything away, Thank you

very much. We're back in a moment trying to figure this. I thought it was bad Pete. I thought it was bad with Pete on this show, Jeff is so much worse. We were on a good run. Bad teammate, point the finger. You know what you do when you Mike goes out just suck it up and figure it out. See everyone sees it wright till the break you'll point another finger

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It is a division of t I A a f B member, f D I C the official bank, but jackson Bill Jaguars. The goal is to approach it just as any other week. You know, obviously everyone's fighting for a job, whether it's you know here or somewhere else possibly. Um, everyone's just trying to have their best before. You're not trying to stress yourself out with all these are am I gonna make the team and blah blah blah um. At the end of the day, you just gotta put

your your your best self on tape. Um. If if you're a better you're good fit for this team, then you know you'll end up with this team. But if you belong on another team, another scheme, then so be it. Heally and coup in the locker room. Yesterday, Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour that acts of launch a new mobile app and secure digital ticketing. The only new official Jacksonville Jaguars app features exclusive content, live game streaming, game day alerts,

and much more. Look for Secure digital ticketing this Thursday. I mean, screenshots of tickets are no longer allowed this year, so download or update the official Jacksonville Jaguars Apple on Apple and Android devices. That's coming up Thursday night, seven o'clock kickoff time for the Jags and the Falcons at t I A bank Field Elien who interesting thoughts going around the locker room yesterday and kind of got some different perspectives on what this week holds. And Elie's one

of him. He's been around here now for a couple of years. Um. Another one was McBride, the wide receiver who's kind of on the bubble, but he's a fourth year player. He's been around the league and he kind of understands what this week is about. And if you if you play against they get it again what this week is about, and how to handle the rookies o JP. They don't know what it's about. No, they don't know what it's a weird feeling in the in the just

walking around the locker room again today. Just it's because next week after, I mean, what thirty the guys are gone. It was always amazing to me when when we would have roster cuts, it was it was more of a step system than what it is today, because you went we went from ninety to seventy five and then down to fifty three and then they made it now just one cut so that they would have more players available

to play in the last preseason game. It was only a few years ago they changed that, and uh, I just remember when we went from seventy five down to fifty three. I mean it was it was a big change. And uh when you came back in the locker room and you're like, is this all that's on our team now? You know, because the numbers all of a sudden shrinks so dramatically, and you and it. It is kind of hard.

The first couple of days is kind of hard, but you really don't want to waste much time thinking about it because look, you gotta you got a game that counts coming up in a week. So so it's a

lot different. But you know, a guy like Eli Elienko, I mean, he's rightfully taking the right approach because as he's a bubble guy, and he's a guy that you now have a draft pick that was drafted in Dontevious Russell from Auburn in the seventh round and has been a guy that's shown mobility, he shows that he's got some pass for us, he's got sized like Elienko, And so it's gonna be a tough decision between one of

those two guys and Tony. I think it's gonna be one or the other, and I think it's gonna be Russell. Russell is more athletic, moves better. Elian, who's really a two gap type of player, Um would be great in the three or four as a nose good football player. Taking nothing away from him, but I just think the athletic ability of Russell is probably gonna give him a

little bit of the edge, you know. It did to pick up on Jeff was saying about cut day, and Jeff and I are always in a different situation, I mean, being high draft picks and then you know, you don't worry about that kind of stuff. But what I found interesting is it affects everybody because your friends, I mean, and it it really the big impact is the closer you like your position group, because that's who you're really close to camp. I mean, not that you're close to

other guys. When you're friends with the defensive lineman, you hang, I mean, you eat together maybe, and you have your group of you know, the click whatever. There's clicks within every organization and everything else, but you really become close with the guys that you're in the meetings with all the time, especially in the old days when you're practicing twice a day and you're at meeting still ten ten thirty at night, and so you spend a lot of time during camp and then all of a sudden, these

are guys that get cut and they're your friends. And that's the difficult part because you know it greatly impacts their lives. Some of them have families and wives and they're you know, trying to figure out, you know, trying to get on somewhere else, or they need to go onto the next stage of their career, which is all these different things that go into it and then the next moment. So that's a that's a tough weekend because you know, you're trying to figure out what's going with

your friends and your phone calls and everything else. But then you show up the week work Monday and you look around like, okay, this is our team. Let's go to work. Here come the chiefs a town on next Sunday. I don't want to sound like like having no heart or no emotion, but literally I remember coming in Monday and you almost forget about everyone else that's not there. It's no different, and it happens all the time. We're

talking about Andrew Luck earlier. When you're hurt as a hurt player, like you're not there, You're not a part. It's like we're going to battle these guys. They're still going to tee it up at one o'clock on Sundays. It's like, this is what we're doing. And so it's a really tough emotional weekend for a lot of guys, and I think for the whole team because you have friends, but then come Monday, it's all forgotten about. And head coach Doug Morone has a little bit of a different

perspective on this. He's been a bubble player when he was a player in the National Football League and this one kind of cuts close to home. It's a challenge of you know, how much you want to you know, get ahead, you can get ready for your opening game. You know, it's a challenge of making sure you do the right thing for the people that are still trying to make the team. You know, they're obviously always a

couple of spots left. Uh, but then it's tough because you know I probably can um you guys know, relate to the anxiety. You know, with a lot of the players that have been giving us everything they had and you know, trying to you know, make it in the NFL, and um, you know, in a couple of days and

everybody's life changes. So those are the things that are tough about this week, he said coach Doug Marone, and that you know, he says something similar to that every year in this week, at the start of this week or around this time frame. That that's a real thing for him. I mean, you know, he has to sit across the table and tell a guy that he's not

good enough for this football team. Well, he he wants to have a conversation with each player, and he does, and he remembered as a player pretty much, he said this, at least he remembers almost every word that was told to him in that situation. So he wants that to be a um something to remember and as positive as it can be in that moment, because it's not as a players. As a player, if you're gonna get cut, you're like, dude, just tell me I'm cutting, then let

me out of here. Yeah, I'm sure that that's kind of the emotion there. But as yea, I wouldn't want the niceties. Yeah, I wouldn't I would like that he'll shoot you straight. I'm not saying I'm not saying nothing about what saying. I just like, just if I'm kind, I'm cut unless you can help me get onto another team. Yeah, I waste of my time. There's a lot of people

involved in that decision making process. And I don't know how the Jaguars do it because you know, every team, going back to my first year in the league, I remember we had a turk. You know, he was the hatchet man, you know that that would walk around the hallways or the locker room and and basically grab guys or the hotel if we were staying at a hotel, you know, knock on your door and say hey, you know, bring your playbook and come on, and you're like, nobody

ever want to see it. Some people would hide from that guy. Uh, he's gonna stop him from getting cut. Yeah, exactly as some guys that did hide, they literally hid. They couldn't find it. But we gotta remember back and back then we didn't have they can't cut me. They can actually remember the rams hard knocks. Here. It was the strength coach who was the guy. He would get the text or the email and he'd have to go up in the weight room. Man, I wouldn't want to

do I wouldn't want to do that. That's tough. It's gotta be tough, right I just I mean, that's that's not that's not cool. If you if you've got that job. Sometimes like it's it can be a younger kind of intern type guy. A second, it's not that it's not cool. It's just a tough who used to do it back in the early days. Less who's now the g M and l A about that he used to do. He used to be here. He wouldn't do it. He'd come grab the guys, say come exactly. But he was the guy.

But he was the one who cut everybody. Sure, but Tom wouldn't the one going to the matt If I remember those two guys, grab the guys. They would come and get you and then take you down to see Tom. Or A lot of times what would happen is because it was in the weekend. You get a phone calls were the last cuts were done, you know, Saturday and Sunday.

We're Friday and Saturday. After the last preseason games. It was Thursday nights sometimes a Friday game back then and everyone who have off, and so we'd all be at home getting ready because we knew the season was getting ready to start, and everyone else would be sitting there waiting to buy the phone, hoping they weren't getting a phone call. Because if you've got a phone call, you

gotta go, you gotta come in again. I remember one of the worst cuts I've ever seen, timing wise, Tonty, remember this, Uh, in Denver, we were able to sign Clyde Simmons. So Clyde literally got cut from Arizona. So we're picking them up, so they're flying him into Denver. Well, we have to let somebody go because our roster is maxed out at ninety or whatever. So they literally his last preseason game, Yeah, seventy five. So they literally call

Corey Mayfield. They go to his hotel room, knock on his door and say, uh, get your bag packed, you're going home. So from the hotel, here's a guy that's getting ready to play a preseason game, you know, getting his mind right. It's the day of the game. I think it was the day of the game, and they knock on his door, send him home on a commercial, which, by the way, is the right decisions. Clyde Simmons. Clyde Simmons helped us win a lot of games. He did

whatever happened to him. The other guy, Corey Mayfield, I don't know. I don't know if he caught on anywhere else or what. But he's a great guy, great guy. Always had a kind of an upbeat personality. You know, good, good dude. How about that that that would be a bad one. I think you're you're hoping to make the team.

You're in the hotel, you're ready to play here. If they were looking for one guy to cut to make room for for Clyde Simmons, and it's you, you weren't making the team anyway, and so what it really just saved him, coy Corey might have made he because he he was on our team. Like, if you're gonna have a chance to make it and they're looking to cut somebody because they had to open up one spot, if you're the guy, yeah you're probably gone tomorrow. Yeah you

were gone. Yeah that was but that was kind of crazy. Corey Mayfield had a career in the Arena Football League after the Jaguars. In fact, yeah, he was and ninety two in the offseason Buccaneers and two Jags, and he was with US one year and then Grand Rapids, Orlando, the Philadelphia Soul in the Dallas Desperadoes until like oh five, like he played a long Good for him, good guy. Don't miss the kickoff to college football, well, the week

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do have to be a right guy. That's Clais Campbell in the locker room this week, discussing Andrew Luck and the retirement of the Colts quarterback. Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli as usual, Pete Briscoe out tonight in Kansas City. So Jeff Lockerman sits in. Yeah, yes, thanks for joining us tonight. I didn't have to have the different share either. Well that's good. I gave it my seat for you. I'm a team player. I don't

point fingers like someone else does. Wow, um, let's continue. Goodness, our conver say we started the show tonight with the Andrew Luck news accord. If I would have to like point out how many times Bisselli has pointed the finger on the radio airwaves, JP, Do I ever blame you all the time? Literally all the time? Yes, call up Frank and all the time any times your fingers pointed at him. Never let's continue, it's always behind his back. I thought I was doing behind your back too. I

can't you sit here to my face. Yes, Um Andrew luck news obviously the big news of the FC South, but not the only thing going on in the division this week. Lamar Miller tores a c L in Houston. He's done for the season, and then Taylor Juan officially suspended the four games for the violation of the performance enhancing substance policy. He had announced it earlier himself. It became official just a few days ago in Tennessee. It was just a few of the headlines in the NFC South. Well,

Lamar Miller. They traded for Duke Johnson right of the Cleveland Brown, so he's gonna be able to step in right away. The interesting thing about the Colts, the last time that we saw Jacoby Brissette play at an extended amount of time, it was when they traded for him at the last second seen and Tony loves him, thinks he's a franchise type quarterback. But now we're gonna actually get an idea whether or not he is your little avert franchise quarterback. No, I did not. I said I

liked Jacobe Percette. I think he was a good trade back then because they need them. I've never said he's a franchise quarterback. Ever, I said he I like him, I like the trade. I think he has a chance to be a franchise quarterback. I don't think. I never said he was a franchise quar and I stand by that. I think he has an opportunity. The guy was thrown in won four games not knowing the playbook on a bad roster that was built by our GM friend that

was Grigson. That was terrible. So one of the reasons Andrew, look, I hurt so much. He got pounded all the time. They didn't build up front. Chris Ballard's a He's doing a really good, really good job. He has town around him, He's a above average offensive line, better defense, got weapons, and he has now been in the system for a whole year. I think he has a chance for two years now, no one year, because Frank Wright's only been

there year. Well yeah, Frank's but I mean he's been as as It'll be interesting to see how he plays. I think he has opportunity. I like him, I love the trade when they did it, and I think he has a chance. How about I'm just gonna ask this off the cuff, um, your a FC South Power rankings right now, gotta change the culture now. For to me, even with even with all the things you just said about it, they're still okay. You know. Uh, I would say Titans are three and football coin between the Jags

and the Texans. Mm hmm. But your luck and I might flip the Colts in the Titans. Tell me you're ranking again, gonna flip it. I'm gonna change it Titans for Colts three, and then flip a coin between the Jags and the Texas. I'd be the same, right, that's fair. I think the losing luck change. I would have put the healthy Andrew lucky would have put them one into division pre See. Let me just ranking was just you know, doesn't it doesn't matter in the grand scheme that they're

just curious. But that's a that's a pretty big deal. Now. And then you also factor in the loss of a running back in Houston, that's not as big a deal. No, no, no, no, there's big quarterback, but he's but he's he's a guy, right and they we're gonna have kind of a two headed running It's a rushing attack behind an offensive line that's not very good. That takes pressure off of them trying to protect their quarterback. That's that's kind of a big deal. It's not like a quarterback, but it's but

it's a big deal. Still the starting running back listen Lamar Lamar Miller at best was the third most important person, I mean third DeShawn the DeShawn Watson the quarterback and uh Hopkins the receiver. I mean if they lost one of those two, I'd be concerned clowning in in there. Yet either he's not it's a big one is not signed. So and there's been talk about maybe a trade. Could could that happen for Trent Williams, who is the unhappy

Washington Redskins left tackle. Well the Skins say they're not getting rid of him. They want him too. Everybody, Okay, Prices. Here's how you notice it's BS is because the rumor was put out that the Patriots offered a future one and that they turned it down. Well, there was later that came out that wasn't true. It wasn't true from the Patriots standpoint, but the Redskins probably put it out there just so that they could broadcast in an indirect

way open for business. Are I don't have anything against I just think that the way they operate as a joke. Although if I have the Texans, I make the phone call because I don't think they're gonna be a Clowney in They're not gonna pay him if they get Trent Williams, who's had a bunch of injuries. That the perfect thing that Dan Snyder would do, though, yeah, is to sign a guy like Clowney. What do you think you like that? Trade? That a guest joining us at the studio unnamed guests?

Uh in and out quickly? Do you have it? Though? The AFC South just kind of some big headlines over the last two, three four. The Texans have issues, though I don't. I don't think. I don't think the texts are great up front, But quarterback, if the best receiver maybe in football, defense is gonna be good. It does. If they don't I'm Clowney, it takes him a notch down. If Clowney doesn't get in there, doesn't show up. I would put Jags one because I think the defense is insane.

He is so disruptive on defense. He is now that he's healthy and then ready to play, he was disruptive. I mean the last two years he caused his numbers aren't great, but he just like beats up people. It's in the backfield and guys are gonna free because of them. How about you Ja rankings? Um? Yeah, Colts still one, No, at the bottom. We're starting from the bottom, Colts down low. Tennessee is right there too. But the sole the thing for me is that the Jags somehow I have to

figure out this Tennessee. They're gonna be You know what the word is in Tennessee that you're already locked. The word the word in Tennessee is that Mario is getting out played right right. You're watching the game. Bhy the guy that yeah, that wouldn't surprise, but the Jags still have issues with him. No, not this year. Got to stop being negative is saying it's the problem right now. Lock it right now. The Titans go down in the division.

The Titans, we're gonna lock that both games to the Jaguars. Jaguars will beat them here and in Nashville. Take you to the bank. What's the date today? Soundbiteck it? Thank you the first lock of the year. Give me Titans Colts Texans Jags four to one. Jackson the top, I got you the defense mainly. We don't know what the offense really is yet, but you have a feeling that

can be good if guys are healthy. You know, it was last year when guys were healthy early saw was it Sports Illustrated that have the Jackson is a five win team this year? Yeah, there's people picking five six wins for the Jacks and Nick who knows had five last year? Well, last year they were all getting picked. They were picking the Jackson to the super Bowl. This year there, so let's hope that. Uh yeah, but they got a Super Bowl m v P now playing quarterback.

Let's hope they're wrong both times. I hope they're wrong. Last year, that's somethingy're wrong. This year we'll come back. We'll go around the National Football League the rest of it. Since we've already touched the a FC sound we can continue are like Tennessee Titans. You can lock some more things. The Tennessee Titans is an interesting team to me because I like Mariota. I'm just not I mean, Jeff was high on him coming out. I was not. I I'm

a franchise guy coming up. I don't think generational generational, but I did say that I would take him over Jameis Winston. Yes, and I said I would not and I was right. Um so yes, everyone in the NFL would take Jameis Winston more than Mariota. Look at their numbers. I don't know about that. The football season is I don't take to pick right now. You're the GMT. MARIOTAA. We're running the box offense. We're not. We don't need a quarterback. Football can't tell me. Jamis jamis thinking, thank

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Pete Prisco out tonight. Well, I guess we'll look forward to have him back next week. Of course, it depends who are Jeff Lago a filling in value. Speaking of Pete Prisco, who is interviewing arguably the best young quarterback in the NFL today, they're gonna remind us again the Jakes could have had him. Well they could have. But if you get a guy seen the highlights some of their preseason action, they have like eight guys who were in like four or three. They're just run around everywhere,

right they are. They are fast about so you know all this talk about and we talked about this a couple of weeks ago when the Jags didn't play the starters the first two weeks. Well, here's what homes going out there scrambling around they play every week, by the way, diving towards the end zone. And I mean it's that was That was the dumbest, the dumbest scramble I have ever seen in the NFL. And it's a real game. He might try to die for the end zone. I think he slid at the end of the one yard

line or something. But that kind of for the m v P. Man and Reid had a little talking to with him about that, But I mean that was they have they have a lot of weapons and uh, but Jeff, I mean how much what do you think about that though? I mean they're literally playing those guys every week for the first three weeks. I doubt to play week four. But well, I mean is it the right answer for them? And maybe is it the right answer for this team? Maybe?

You know, I thought, like I said before, I kind of sit on the fence, well on this issue where you whether you should or should not play. That's give an opinion, let's go. I mean in some in some instances, I want to see the Jaguars play. I mean this is the best. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that, but I would not play them every game. And I think that's a mistake by Andy Reid. I thought you were talking about I'm talking about I would I mean, I

just I wouldn't do that. I mean, look, it's it's it's a different NFL with the amount of talent that you have and and the quality of your backups, and look, maybe they're different. They feel like they've got great backups, but most teams don't. And you're talking about the best young quarterback in football that just made a decision that could have cost him in the organization greatly if somebody were to whack them in that instant. So to me, it's all about far and I would agree, Jeff, I know,

I see no reward. Um. I liked him playing like I would have played Nick Foles in that offense in Week two, So I'm fine with him playing Week two Week three. I don't think you need to play one or four. Going back to the last thing, we had the power rankings AFC South Power Rankings, our first edition which we'll have on this show. Locked. What did you lock it? Undefeated? I locked? I locked. The Jags would beat,

would sweep the Titans. And the reason I bring this up is that in in my power rankings, the first thing I said was that, well, the JAG's gotta get past this Titans thing. Well, this Titans thing is that the Titans have won six of the last seven meetings against the Jaguars. You know what that means for this year? Not much, nothing, nothing. It means as much as you

allow to meet as a team. Like, if you want to go dwell back and think back, what's happened to pass the last thing I remember Derrick Henry run a ninety nine and a half. I guess this team come Thursday night of week three for week two week is that we played three Week three after Houston Thursday night here. None of that. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what happened last year. I'm a firm believing that. I think we make too much of that streaks and all this stuff.

It's nonsense. I would like if you allowed to affect, you will well whether it's affected a team or not. The reality is the numbers aren't lying. No, no, I'm not saying that, but it shouldn't. What does it have to do what happened last year or two years ago, five years ago or ten years ago. What does it have to do with this? They need to bring you in and talk to the team the night before the game. Bring me in Monday of the I have a very

small number. One Lara of all time is here. I'll wave it for them because that's how much I hate the Titans. I've locked it so I need, I need to participate in this. You did lock it. I just like, what does it mean? Like for Nick Foles who was in Philly last year, what does he care the rack retired, now, didn't they? Derek Morgans still there. I'm pretty sure I think he retired. Derek Morgan retired, he's he retired to I don't know. My point is it does not matter.

Like Nick Foles wasn't even here. That's why they picked up Cameron Went. You know who lost to the Titans last year. The Eagles think about that for a while. So falls does know about the type? No, but it doesn't matter. Okay, Josh Allen was in Kentucky last year? Who cares? None of it matters? Well, didn't he lose a Tennessee probably? Okay, I give up. I'm trying, not working the volunteer actually bet Hi last year? Yeah, I

don't think volunteers are whipping much of anybody. Right now, let's try, let's come, let's continue, Let's go around the National Football League confused, we're not taking another commercial. Um. Let's start off with Patrick Chung pleading not guilty to cocaine possession charges. The rainment scheduled for this week. Next court appearance November eight. So what was the story? Did they come into his house and found the cook like

he had a break in or something? I read and then the police came in or like how did they find a coke? I don't know, but but it was it happened back in like June a while back, yea or something. Look at the details. I want to know how they found it. What is and we'll get to that. Yes, but matters because that's his whole defense. He's gonna have some defense that it wasn't his couse in New Hampshire. Um,

the arrayment was scheduled for this week. He waved it, uh, and we'll get the d I gotta I gotta dig to the d's a little bit more. But for the point, that's his defense. I it's not my coke. It was someone else's cocaine. So grand jury charge on June Meredith, New Hampshire, where Chung has a residence. So yeah, I thought I read somewhere. I don't want to say that's whatever. That's his defense, but it's not. It's not a good look.

I hope it's not. I hope it's not his not not for him just to be get all for anything like that, just for his personal well being, because if he's using coke, it ain't gonna end good. I'll tell you that Jacobe Brissette. We've mentioned the culture of the show right here, right, Um, well, he's the colt starting

quarterback now, you know Andrew Luck retired. Really, I don't know if you guys heard the start of the show, but apparently Brissette does not have an official agent, so apparently agents around the league or ringing his phone off the hook. I'm sure trying to get him upboard about that, Yeah, I'm sure. In fact, though, when we were down in Miami, we saw one of the powerhouse agents in the hotel. So I'm on the sideline, which is Drew Rosenhouse and

I don't know how many clients. That guy's got a lot, but he can. I don't know if there's a person on the plant that does a better job of managing people than him. Scott Boris Baseball has a lot as well. It probably makes more money because the baseball contract. But that's about it. I mean, I mean in the NFL world, I mean Drew A. Rose now he is the man. Is he still the guy? Oh? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not saying I don't know. Is he still the biggest agent? I would say so, is he? I have no idea, Yes,

that's a question. I don't know who is, but yeah, that's pretty pretty interestingthing. Else rest easy now, guys, Antonio Brown has multiple offers of helmet money. Is the crazy thing too? Brown is going to make cash from this fiasco of the player in the NFL that will have a helmet deal. Does any other player have a helmet deal in the NFL? I don't think they do. He's gonna be doing commercials for right l or whoever whoever. I think it's shut. Isn't it shut because he wore

a shut helmet before? No, nobody's saying for sure. He has multiple multiple Yeah, he might have a new he h U T T right for the highest bidder. Antonio Brown can speak about helmets for you and wear one on the field. I don't know if I mean the helmet company can do it, because it's gonna be great publicity, make no mistake. But if you're if you're a company and you've seen Antonio brown behavior of the last two years, would you want him be in your spokesman? Well, here's

the thing. Whoever gets him is gonna get a lot of press. And at the end of the day, what are those helmet companies want? Brand. They want their brand out there. Well with this whole idiotic craziness about a helmet and not missing, not showing up the practice and appeal, that's got to be one of the craziest stories ever in the NFL. But whoever he goes with it is gonna get a lot of press and people are gonna be talking about. Name me a story that's been crazier

than that this year. No, in the history of the league, the flight game, the how much air pressures in football, Wheather, Tom Braidy. That was way weirder. That was a weird But that one went on and on. Think about a person like a personality in the NFL that's became a story like that? Is there an another one? Is? I mean? I mean, remember what Dion was playing. He was a story all the time, but not like this. I mean, this is this is craziness. I have to think back.

It's it's just odd a little different. Um, the Falcons want to get Julio Jones new contract done before the season. Do you think they will? Yeah, I think it's already done. I think it's just a matter of them just breaking news are breaking. I'm not breaking dot com. Jeff is breaking. How many touchdowns does he average? Because you know you about to you talked to a lot of people in his single digits touchdowns on yearly average, he had like one or two last year to the year before, not

very many. So Tony, you just keep picking them in fantasy football on game days. So I'm going with an Tonio Brown new helmet. But would you do I still consider Julio the best receiver's number one Hopkins Hopkins number one. If I'm picking a receiver for my team, it's DeAndre Hopkins is my first pick. Yep. Yeah, last year eight touchdowns for Julio three of the six eight, six, two and then twelve he had ten. That's his high watermark. That was a second year in the league. Look at

DeAndre Hopkins. Would you'd probably take Hopkins over Julio. I'll take down Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Kill. I'll take in town Odell Beckham if he's my mind, I mean Odell like if he's gonna like when he's he's balling, he's bawling, He's amazing. Right, that's a handful that Green healthys Jayla Ramsey getting in his head again. Now, Julio is very good. I mean he's anywhere from three to six, seven eight. He's right there. Yeah, he's sitting there somewhere. But he's

really good. He's not he's not worthy of being the top paid wide receiver in the league. In my opinion, that's that's Hopkins, That's Tyreek Hill, that's Antonio Brown without the craziness with the guy can still do things. He's an amazing athlete. Take your Alabama bias. Had had nothing to do with that. I'm just saying, like, just watching him. But if you look at and I'm gonna keep I keep on saying his name, DeAndre Hopkins. If you look what he's done with the quarterbacks he's had to play

with and the numbers he puts up. Could you imagine if DeAndre Hopkins had Matt Ryan did not have a drop last year, but put him with one of these big time quarterbacks. Hopkins did not have a drop. And it's not like Hopkins with Ben Roethlisberg crazy. He's had a rotation of quarterbacks, bad offensive line, fill in the blanks, help receiver. Uh. The NFL and the NFL p A are meeting for a seventh cb A full bargaining session

tonight and tomorrow in Chicago. They're saying a new deal before the start of the year is unlikely, but talks are moving in a positive direction. The CBA expires after and remember the Christian Um early while back said he would want it to have a deal done before the season. Sounds like we're getting close now, but they're still meeting and moving ahead before this season or before this season. I think the do make sure it's done because after

then you're going crazy lock out and everything else. So I hope it gets done. I hope because I don't see any reason why I can't get done considering what the league went through the last time this happened. I wasn't in the league then, but just watching it from the outside, just the you don't want to be on that storyline of lockouts and this is bad for business. Every really wasn't. How bad was it? Like what happened? It's just the negative. He don't want everywhere. They came

back and played football. Nothing happened. He's still the number one sport, number one American sport. I'm not saying it's I get what you're saying. You know what I mean, Like if you don't if it, if you can avoid it. Great. The only time we're to get negative you start taking games away from an impact. Then it's an impact that put the way that even it was an annoyance last

or seven, eight years ago wherever he was. Um. But I think it gets done during the season or the next offseason before I think it's done for sure, before the season, it'll be done. The big question is is what do they do with preseason and are they going to from They got to addressed the preseason games. They got to agree Jeff, and then they don't need to

change the regular season. Actually, I probably would mean towards Jeff and not to Alright, fellas, Tony, well done, Hey Blocks, thanks for thanks for coming in, Jeff, way to go. Let's get out of my seat. Bestow of the year, Joe Fortunato, Brent Raybram JP Shadow will see you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.