Jaguars Happy Hour: August 12 - Hour 1

Finally some football or something close to football Saturday night at t I A. Bank Field. The quarterback conversation is hot today. We'll hear from head coach Urban Meyer coming up, and he had some things to say before practice today about the quarterback time. He didn't announce a starter yet for Saturday night's game. We'll here from serious XM radio host Jim Miller at four or fifteen, former Jags quarterback.

He wore number twelve seven, but not for long. Jeff Lageman at four thirty will join us, and then we'll have a second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Radio Network. That's at five o'clock, including a preview of our public tailgate show interview with cornerback Shaquille Griffin, and he's got a surprise for the fans, wearing number twenty six if you have those jerseys. If you don't, you might want to get those News of the Day.

Jaguars back on the practice field Thursday, the preparation continues for the preseason opener against those Cleveland Browns. Head coach Urban Meyer. Before practice was asked about the quarterback situation coming up Saturday night. We'll finalize that tonight, I asked Sean im Vavin. But they'll both play. UM A lot of it's who's gonna be behind h No, we just want to make sure we have Protecto Pocos quarterbacks for Boco plays. It sounds like a little bit said what

happens in the offensive line could affect that. But both will play. He was not ready to name a starter. He said they'll have meetings tonight to truly determine who at least runs out of the tunnel first and onto the field. They'll both play, as you you heard a reminder say there after practice, Trevor Lawrence said he isn't worried much about the playing time. The plan is the same for him going into the game. Yeah, I'm I mean, I know I'm gonna play, So that's just if I

know I'm gonna play, I'm gonna be prepared. And that's the way I'm looking at it. So how much I don't really don't really know for sure. Um sure, a fair amount. So I'm just gonna be ready for for whatever I have and then me and Gardner will will play. Well. Here a little later from Trevor Lawrence deeper and his knowledge of the playbook so far in this Jaguars offense is but yeah, rookie quarterback gets ready for his first opportunity in Jaguars teal. We did hear from earlier this week,

offensive coordinator Darryl Bevil. He said Lawrence is in a fantastic spot when it comes to learning the OFFENSEE said, well, you know, he had there was two days in there. You know, we we we moved him back a little bit, and I think he responded. I think it's you know, like I've told you guys, he's he's really into it. It's really super important to him. Uh, he's working hard every day, you know. Bryan Schotheimer doing a hell of the job with him, so he's in good hands that way.

But the last couple of days, like the last four um, you know, you could kind of see him should continue to make that climb again. It was a little bit of hang up early and camp maybe about not a hang up that might be too aggressive of a statement. But sixth or seventh practice or so Darryl Bevil said, you know what, it might have piled up on him a little bit today. Some of the installation doing it over and over again kind of caught up with him there.

They weren't as crisp in practice, some of the alignments were off. Well, they've gone back and retraced their steps. It feels like a few times in getting this offense together, and you hear the confidence there from the offensive coordinator. By the way, Bebel will be in the press box and the coach's box throughout the season that he'll have

communication with urban Meyer on the field. Brian Schottenhammer will be on the field offensively as well, getting the plays in to whatever quarterback is wearing the coach to quarterback communication system in their helmet. Well the other quarterback of course, at least of note in this conversation right now is Gardner Minshew the second His performance in camp has really

impressed head joech urban Meyer. I didn't know Minshew. I knew it was coach very well, Mike Leach and and you know, to say we didn't you know, I don't say we got off top bad start, but I just didn't see very much of him. But he's earned my respect. I love that guy. He's a he's a warrior, competitor, he's uh the fights, he's a fighter. I told him that I just got great respect for Minshew. Yeah, and he has had a solid camp. I think that's probably

the best way to say it. And urban Meyer told him in the past that you're gonna give you an opportunity, and and Minshew said as such a little while back when he spoke with the media. That's all I asked of them. And that's what they've given me, an opportunity. And he's been out there a lot. They've been alternating reps with the first team offense throughout training camp, and I'm sure that will be the case at least tomorrow night.

Now what the future holds, who knows. It feels like he's been the most consistent of the other three quarterbacks that aren't named Trevor Lawrence in training camp so far. Does that mean he sticks around? As if if Trevor Lawrence wins the job, if you will, does he stick around it? Does that value increase and then moves are made down the line. Can't speculate that here, but either way, it's good to have multiple quarterbacks having good camps. That

is allowed. That's just fine and that we'll see what Trevor Lawrence and the Gardner mints you the second half in mind tomorrow night. Now up front, it's a big storyline this week. The offensive line for the Jaguars. All five guys, of course, returned for season. Cam Robinson on the left side, the left tackle, spoke with the media Wednesday and he was asked about Walker Little. He says he has a good relationship with Walker Little and that's

about all he had to say. Though. He did talk a lot about the culture that head coach Urban Meyer has instilled here in Jacksonville and it's familiar to his old college days. Uh. Yeah, it was exciting. Um, you know, I think that's huge. Um, jas guys who who who've done it before? You know what I'm saying like, like you just mentioned to winning culture, and I know he comes from that and that's all he would that's all

he would accept. So, UM, I think that that was big for me and I think that's big for the whole organization. Um just I think the approach said a not accepting nothing but anybody's best. Um, if it's not if he's not up to his standard, and it's unacceptable if it's not up. So you understanding what we're trying to get done and is not acceptable and they won't be acceptable. Yeah, it won't be accepted here. It's that's the way things have changed a bit with urban Meyer

at the Hell of Course Camp. Robinson played at Alabama under Nick Saban, similar mindset there, so he's used this type of coaching and philosophy. And when you walk in the building every day, and especially when you're on the run of that practice field, you better be ready to

give everything you have. Well he knows that anyway, and certainly in a one year deal for Cam Robinson thirteen point seven million dollars guaranteed in this franchise tag deal that he signed, the one year fully guaranteed deal, they did draft Walker little behind him. Little has not had any reps at least that we've seen with the first

team offense as of yet. They have been cross training Little some left tackle earlier in camp this past week or so has been playing a lot of the right side, but then the last day or two Little has moved back to the left side and the in the first depth chart it came out in the game release earlier this week, walk a Little Little is listed as a

left tackle behind Cam Robinson. For what it's worth, of course, all jobs are up as a competition and training camp, at least this early in training camp with about a month away actually a month today away from the start of the regular season. Let's move to the defensive side of the ball, and plenty of thoughts on that side. A lot of change over there, a lot of new faces for the Jags defense face coming back from last season.

They're hoping for a step up. His defensive end and outside linebacker Caleb and Chasing and boy, he's excited about this new defense and what that could mean for the team and himself in the season ahead. We're rolling out there. It's fast, man. We come in from all different types of ways and like this defense is, it's a lot of confidence coming in and just I feel like it just was different about this ship, Like we are kind of trusting each other as far as uh, like everybody's

kind of trusting that I'm gonna do my job. I know, Shot gonna do his job, Josh gonna do his job. So it's kind of getting fun out there. And then you know, especially when you compete out there and you're making plays and you're going to get the number one pick who don't look like no more look like a pro already. So it's like when you're rushing her, get to the quarterballe Man, Josh trying to compete, get back there,

and he throwing dimes just like him. But it's fine though, like you know, just being in his defense and he's been his atmosphere right now as far him Caleb and Jason is listed as a first string outside linebacker on the initial game release this week, opposite of Josh Allen on the other side, Joe Choulvert, Miles jack Or the

Mic and will linebackers respectively. And it would be nice to see Chase On step up and and step into a bigger role this season, will maybe a change in that defense a little bit with an opportunity to stand up. He has that athletic ability to to chase some guys down the field if he needs to go out and coverage a little bit, boy, if he can get to the pastor with that speed he has around the edge and standing up, and that's kind of his game, or it was at Ellis you at least get back to that.

That wasn't the case last year for Chase On a little bit of a disappointed well for everyone, it was a disappointing season a year ago, but certainly for Caleb and Chaison who tried to fight through his rookie season. Now he's ready to take that next step. Coming up a little later in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, we're gonna hear from Shaquille Griffin and the corner who's

now in his fourth now fifth in NFL season. Rather, he came in as a free agent from the Seattle Seahawks, and he loves the Urban Meyer mentality and the the idea of Urban being on the field as early as he is every day and trying to take an opportunity to go visit with most every player he can as they walk out on the field and set the tone

for the day. We'll hear Shaquille Griffin's thoughts on those conversations, and he'll give us a little insight to what he and Urban discuss on nearly a daily basis before practice begins on the Dream Finders Homes Practice Complex. So we're looking forward to that. That will come up a little bit later in our preview of Sunday's Conversation, or Saturday Night's conversation, rather in the public's tailgate show plenty ahead.

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a whole, each other accountable. And I wish I did that more when I was here, right, I wish I was more accountable to my teammates, telling guys that they weren't working hard, to work harder and if and if he didn't like it, that's okay, right, Um, you guys have a great nucleus of guys that can do with some great things that this city deserves. That you guys are working your butts off and watching. Probably been to

ten training camp so far. I haven't seen a camp like this ever, right, I haven't seen guys compete like you guys. I was actually telling there's some camps. I'm like, No one of these teams are going eight and eight, right, No one of these teams are going seven and nine or whatever the new the new record will be. But the way you guys are working, you gotta keep doing that, right, That's how you win games. You gotta work hard constantly

you gotta hold each other accountable. That is Maurice Jones Drew breaking down the Jaguars after practice earlier this week. He was in with NFL Network and addressed the team right after the workout and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy our veterans, choo is VA for the benefits you've earned. Choose a visit, choose dot v a dot gov. Welcome back. J P. Shatrick with you on Jaguars Happy Hour. Right

to hear from Mojo there. His interview with Ashman Sullivan available on Jaguars dot Com currently and he said it was great to visit with him the other day. By the way, he hasn't been over here in a long long time to see the Jaguars. It sounds like he you know, if this London game continues, which it sounds like it's on track still, he will be with the team in some capacity over there for some events around the game. That would be good news. I know he's excited.

He's done a lot of work in the UK on television over the last year or so with the BBC, so I'm sure he's looking forward to that. Also is the analyst for Los Angeles Rams Radio. On a daily basis or on a weekly basis in the booth, and is, of course the Jaguars career leader in touchdowns one career touchdown, sixty eight rushing touchdowns, also a franchise record. Let's hear

from another Jaguar. He doesn't have any Jaguar records because he played only a very short piece of the seven season, and in fact, he didn't even get in a game. But he's Jim Miller from Sirius XM Radio who was here at camp today. Was a quarterback with a number of different teams in the NFL, Steelers, the Jags, Falcons, Bears for a little while, the Buccaneers and the Patriots. His last year in the league was two thousand four. Had some time in Europe as well. He's currently the

Bears preseason television analyst. He's head back to Chicago tomorrow to check out the Bears preseason opener. But he had plenty of thoughts about the Jaguars organization, Urban Meyer and the quarterback position here in Jacksonville. So let's get to it. The Jaguars have a new head coach in Urban Meyer, settling in. He's super consistent in his message. He'll never deviate, whether it's in media in front of the team. You know, he has those standards of excellence, and I'm curious everybody

is if that can translate to the NFL. So far, it feels like the guys have bought it. Yeah. I think he's an artful communicator. I think he's very good at it. Uh you know, just even noticing out here at practice, you know, he's a very hands on coach. You know anybody that I saw, Like I listed three guys he had Ozigbo who he called on. They were doing some shed blocking drills where he was hands on from their chappelle the linebacker uh as Well had Chark

out there. So he's and it's almost it's almost like the price is right. He calls him out, like come on down your next up. You know, I'm gonna coach up and do some things with you. And part of it is getting to know the players. And I'm sure he's he's getting to know all these guys right now, and they're gonna have some difficult decisions because they're you know, I think it's competitive across the board here, I really do.

I think everybody's got a clean slate from the players that were here and the players that they brought in when a super free agency and there's a lot of them now. They're obviously gonna get opportunities here and they know there's some open spots and it's a clean slate for all. Surban even this morning said they're still a quarterback competition, and that would be the case going in maybe all the way to Week one against Houston. Do

you buy it? Um? No, I agree with it. I think that they're they're ultimately going to make a decision. I think everybody just kind of by default thinks that's gonna be Trevor Lawrence is gonna get in there. But you can't just throw the kid to the wolves. You know a Darrell Bevil who I know well, what played against him in college. You know him as a coach. You know, they're gonna know where he's at. Can he

protect himself? Can he you know, does he understand the blitz is, the hot routes, the audibles, all those things, and that's gonna show itself. So I think, you know, for coach, I don't know why any coach would just declare the position open, especially when you've got a young guy coming in. You know, I give the example of Wilson up there for the for the New York Jets. Unfortunately Greg Natt passes away and they really that kids

not insulated right now. There's not a veteran around him that has really played, and it's a young team that have have a lot of competitive spots. I think it's much better here for Trevor Lawrence. But I think he's got to show all those things, not just throw him to the Wolves if he if he's ear in the position, when he's ready to play, he'll get out there. And obviously that's a credit to Gardner Minshew to really come out and compete, and he hasn't conceded anything, and he's

making in a competitive room for Trevor Lawrence. Is the future of If it goes Trevor Lawrence's way, Does Gardner Minsh you stick around here as the backup? Does he have value elsewhere in the league? How do you see his value? Well, you know, you listen to Urban Myrie said, Hey, this isn't a four year plan, it's a one year plan. And I would think Gardner comes in with the most experience that God forbid. If Trevor were to go down to injury. I think Gardner gives you a better chance

to win and no offense. To see j Bethard, he has played from his standpoint, but to me, Minshew is a physical upgrade to him, So to me, I think there's value in keeping Minshew here. Jake Luton, the young young arm guy, he's a project that's gonna take a little more time. Yeah. No, I like Jake Luton. He's got a big arm. Again, he got his feet wet last year. Wasn't ready from that standpoint, so he's still marinating. So they're gonna have obviously a decision to make about

the backup. But I think if Trevor were to go down, if he is the starter, I think Minshew definitely gives you an opportunity where you're going to be competitive in games. Miller with us from moving the Chains on Serious XM Radio, Channel eight, NFL Radio. Alright, offensive line continuity. All five starters are back, They've added Walker little, They've got some projects in the interior they're working on the last couple of years also, but having that continuity and the offensive

line coach back says a lot about that group. That there was some positive performance up front, especially in the run game a year ago. Yeah, I'd really liked the offensive line here, like you said, because they played together. You're you're a lot of teams don't have five guys coming back like that. And you know, for Cam, I think we knew if if everything were to play out right, he plays this year under the franchise, TAGG and you'd like to think Walker little has the opportunity. It sounds

like Walker has been very competitive this camp. He's I've worked with or I've talked to a former NFL offensive line coach, Paul Alexander, and he actually knows his kid very well. He's very competitive. He thinks he's gonna be a really a top tier player in the NFL. But again, until he's ready, I think he'll be in that swing tackle spot. And then you just like that like nice process of maturation that maybe he steps in next year and and we'll see how it plays out. They drafted

very good offensive lineman here. You got Cam Robinson on the one year franchise deal thirteen point seven million dollars and and he bristled a bit the other day when he was asked about Walker a little bit. That's what competition is about. Yeah, I mean, and it's across the NFL, and you know, Cam's got a lot on the line. He knows he's got to go out there and prove it. From his standpoint, maybe this is his home if if he really shows out and pulls out the way he's

capable of doing. But if the price tag gets too high, you know, but you posy year, you've got a guy who's ready to supplant him. Well, I think it's gonna be a very good offensive liignment when it's all said and done, Miller with us from Serious XM Radio. Defensively, this whole thing is brand new. Joe Colin comes in his first opportunity as a defensive coordinator in the NFL. He's coming from that Baltimore system. He said, they're gonna

blitz from all over. They'll have guys in different packages. So I guess Baltimore's scheme is probably the closest to this. You'd say, yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna be a hybrid. And obviously, when you when you sign guys who I know well, Roy Robertson Harris, he's a very versatile defensive alignment. He's an ascending player. And then, like you said, with guys you got on the edge with McCrae. You look at Josh Allen. Unfortunately for him, he missed some time

last year. Expecting big things in terms of the pass rush. You got good to beefy interior defensive alignment like Hambleton and Roy Robinson. Harris to me, he's such a good athlete. He can line up in a lot of different places. So I think Joe Collin's is gonna manipulate that a little bit. Typically that's what Baltimore has done. They dealt with some hybrid type of situations and a lot of different looks. But you've got to have the corners to cover.

Needs c J. Henderson to to obviously be healthy and Shack Griffin. I think this was a nice home. That's a nice signing here from from the outside. From that standpoint, but c J obviously getting him up and going is gonna be a big part of it because you can only blitz if you've got guys on the back end who can really deal with that. Man coverage is Roy Robertson. Harris's highlight in Chicago, and it felt like the Bears the last couple of years just kind of kept having

him around and he kept getting better and better. But now is this chance to come get a big free agent Patrick Well, like I said, I think he's an ascending player that the problem for him is Belal Nichols has really jumped as well. But when Roy Robinson Harris, every time he got in the game, he flashed, he was making plays, tackles for loss would get sacks. Here, hits On On the quarterback was versatile where they could move him around. Because people don't understand when he came

out of college he had a big weight fluctuation. What he was asking. He's kind of transformed his body and has worked hard and I think he's gonna excel down here in Jacksonville, just specifically with what Joe Collen is gonna ask him to do with his versatility. What's the win lost totals this year? Yeah, I mean when you when you look at it, I think it's obviously gonna be better than last year. I really believe that. I

think they'll be able to run the football. You've got versatile athletes at the receiver position, Like what they'll be able to do with a t n even if he lines up in the slot. I think he's almost like a James White player, but he's more explosive where you can get the home run touchdown from that standpoint. But yeah, I think we know this is a process. Urban has probably never had a losing record. I know that for

a fact. College it may sting a little bit. But you're hoping to eight and eight, But you shouldn't say at eight nine because now there's the seventeenth game. But I'm hoping if they can make that jump where they're they're in that seven to eight win terrier, I think you're you're looking at his success. Jim Miller from Sirious x M NFL Radio Channel eight eight good to catch up with him today on the practice field as the

Jaguars continued their preparation. Yet Roy Robertson Harris. He had a firsthand look in Chicago the last few years at him, and it was great to hear his thoughts on what Robertson Harris could bring. And I think we've seen that early in camp as well. There has been some moments where that big fellow in the middle or towards the interior steps up and and makes some plays on defense. Let's see it in in some real games coming up. Maybe a little bit in the preseason, but that's a

good sign. And uh, you know, Roy Robertson Harris so far is right there at the number one spot at defensive end on the depth chart that came out the other day. So he slated it as a starter as it stands right now on the defensive line. Uh. And then his thoughts on Travis e t N quite interesting, James White, was a comparison maybe that e t N could be like in the NFL, how they could use him out of that backfield spot. Uh, we'll see. I'm looking forward to seeing what e t N can bring.

By the way, we're going through depth charts. E t N is third on the depth chart currently. James Robinson or Carlos Hide our number one and then it's e t N and Dario gunboal a O zigbo controller down there as well. Plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment. Jeff Logan Jaguars Analysts joining us. Check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network a free subscription on Apple, iTunes or Spotify. We've got this show every Thursday. Huddle up with Bucky

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of in order amount of time on fundamentals of the game. UM, and I expect a winner mentality, winner mentality that every played over the The reality is that there's people crossing me. You're trying to take your job, you're trying to you you're some of these guys are in survival both and I respect that. And so how do we you know, we're going to back off a lot of the two was in threes. They're gonna play the majority of the game for plus plays, get their legs back because a

lot of guys are blown out right now. So a clean game, taking care of the football, hustling on and off the field. Uh. And then competitors. Every grade, every play is gonna be grade at and you either win the RAPP or you lose the REPP. And that's I'm hoping you see a real competitive group Saturday. That's head coach Irvian Meyer this morning before practice his expectations for Saturday nights preseason opener the Jaguars and the Cleveland Browns

coming up. JP Shadrick on Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars analyst Jeff Lackerman joining us, and good afternoon, lots. It's a good afternoon, it is. Yeah, it was a good practice today, another spirited practice, but a no padded practice. A little surprising. That's the first thing you said when I saw you when we walked out of the practice field together. What

in the world. Let me just talking about why? Because the guy's legs are kind of shot and he's talking about the two and threes and the force to some extent, those guys are gonna get a lot of reps. And I've always been a big believer in this. But it didn't mean that the coaches that I played for were on the same page as me, because that wasn't their

job to be on the same page as me. But I was always a big believer in that you've got to let the players rest because if you really want to have an accurate accounting of what their abilities are, then why not get them and their bodies ready to show you what they can do, what they really can do, not when they're fatigued and their camp legs are weary, but when they're at their best and they're fresh and ready to go, Because is that not the situation that

you want to have them performing at the end of the day. If it's really all about the players and increasing their value and making sure things are great all around, that that's part of that to to kind of people. A lot of people might be out there saying, what are you, what are you talking about? What? To give you a comparison and go back to the Coughlin era.

He was always about get the working, get the working, get the work in, and then we never really backed off prior to the preseason games early on in the preseason. He backed off a little bit when we got into the regular season. And so the I always thought that the evaluation was a little bit slanted because the players weren't fresh to play a game, like when we went

to the the Hall of Fame game. I mean, our legs weren't fresh underneath of us at all, you know, So how do you really know what a guy can do if if he wasn't even fresh and ready to go in a game type situation. So I like Urban's way of thinking here because that is the evaluation that you want. I mean, you want to be able to look at guys in a in a game setting, because I've seen too many guys that we're all due val and then couldn't make the All State team. You know

what I mean? I know what you I know what you mean. It sounds like you know. It brings up another conversation too, about the approach to the rate the preseason games this year. In the past, of course, at least in the recent past, there have been four preseason games back in the old days of six or seven if you're in the Hall of Fame game all that.

That's a long time ago. Now down to three with basically you have two weeks from the final preseason game to the first regular season game, with a final cut in thereafter on that Tuesday after the Sunday game. That is a lot of time, and how do you manage reps and playing time every It feels like there are a lot of different strategies, at least in week one. I don't think there's any clear cut formula that's the

that's better than one or another. I think everything really needs to be patterned or custom fit to your football team. You've got a young football team and it needs reps, and this team is a perfect example of that. Then I think you give them reps. If you have a football team that's veteran, then you give them just enough to maybe tune up. Look at what Andy Reid's talking about doing with the Kansas City Chiefs. He's talking about having Patrick Mahomes play a quarter or something close to

it in the first preseason game. But now, what healthy well and what will the approach be, Because here's the thing. In the last couple of years, it's been kind of vogue to not play guys at all, and there's some guys I think that you could probably take that approach with. Do you need to find out if a j Can is gonna be a good right guard or a solid right guard? I know that I think he's gonna be okay. Do do I know that Leonard is gonna be okay

at center? Yeah? I got a pretty good idea. Now they might have a personal Hey, we want to get just get flowing at least one game, just to get some something, you know. I think Calais was a little bit like that. I want to get a little bit of something done in a couple of games. I'm a big believer in that you should get reps. I'm not a big believer. I'm not I'm not in on the train that says don't play your guys in the preseason

at all. But with the three preseason games, a lot of people are saying, well, well, the third preseason game become what the fourth preseason game used to be, where nobody plays. Well. No, you've got two weeks to be able to have off between the last preseason game and in the first regular season game. So I think there's no approach. It's right. I'm a big believer in that you've got to give guys some just to get them ready,

especially the younger they are, the more they need. But you don't overdo it either if you know a guy can play, because you know part of this process of the preseason is also about evaluation. It's an aid to allow the personnel people and the coaches to say, this is our fifty three and if you look at it from that standpoint, you know you don't need to overdo it as well. J. P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghman The Jaguar is Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon preseason week one.

The Jags and the Browns coming up this Saturday night. So, Coach Lockerman, how long will Trevor Lawrence play? I don't know. I mean, if if for me making the decision, if I'm coach lockhaman I'm I'm probably having him play a quarter quarter and a half maybe that long. Sure, alternating with Minshew with the ones, it feels like they're both gonna get time here. I think here, here's the thing. I want to have Trevor Lawrence out there with my

number one offensive line. That's yeah, and and Urban earlier today kind of hinted at that in one of his answers about playing time we were gonna play. I got to see about what upfront and all. That didn't really go all the way with that answer, but it felt like he was going in that direction. Yeah, I would For me, I would like to have him protected and yeah, and the best way to protect him is to play

him with that number one offensive line. Now, there's some guys maybe that you could sub in and out of there. For example, if if Lender, for example, goes out, Shatley's in. That doesn't worry. He started so many games Tyler Shatley's good football player. You know. So if if Walker Little comes out at left tackle or goes in at left tackle on Cam Robinson comes out, that doesn't worry me. It doesn't hasn't played a snap in the league. I don't care if he hasn't played a snap or not

in the league. Watch watch the guy practice. He's pretty good. So, I mean there's certain situations, but you know, and and who starts first and who starts second, And I'm sure the coaching staff is going to talk about that at some point tonight, I think. Is that what they said tonight? Uh? So, I mean, however that plays out, as however it plays out, But I would just however it plays out, I want

my number one offensive line with Trevor Lawrence. Okay, I'll say this though, fans around here have been waiting a long long time to hear the announcement of number sixteen Trevor Lawrence and him run out of that tunnel. I know they're probably gonna run as a team that you know, as that goes these days, but uh, to see him run out and then run into the game first, look,

I'm with you. I want to hear his name announce because I want to be able to hear and feel the fan reaction because I think it will be if, if it does happen, it will be something that's something that you'll remember. I mean, especially if we're talking about a player that we look back ten fifteen years from now and there's multiple Super Bowl participations and victories that are on the table, and you sit to you and I remember that moment the first time he was ever ounce.

I mean, you'll you'll go back to that moment. And so yeah, I'd like to hear it too, you know, I'd like to hear it in a big way. And I can tell you this watching him in practice today and JP, you've said it to me before, and we've talked about this. You say that there's typically three or four balls that you see in practice and you go, oh my god, uh wow, he had that one today. There was one of them. It was that deep ball. There was Marvin Jones and did he catch it? Did

he not catch it? He can referee rule that it was a catch, But there are very few people on the planet they can make a throw like that. And I'm standing there with Pat Kirwin, okay, and Jim Miller, and I just got done telling him you're lying about there's always a few throws in a credit. You know, I used it as my own. Oh, of course he makes the throw and I turned the gym and and Pat, you know, and I've known those guys a long time.

Jim was a teammate for a short period of time, and Pat and I go back to thee with the Jets, and these are the guys that do series x M NFL radio. We heard from Jim earlier and Pat and Jim both turned to look at me and go So that's obviously one of the throws that you're talking about that he makes every practice I'll make. Yeah, that was that was one. Yeah, that was one of them. Put that one on the list. Yeah, they're like wow. You know, Pat Carwin was was extremely impressed. And by the way,

it was good catching up with those guys. Those two guys are good dudes. They did a good job on the radio. They do. They do a good job, and they call me up every now and again to go on when the Jaguars are good, which hasn't been My

phone hasn't been ringing much lately. But but Pat, Pat was brought on board a long time ago because at the time when I was in New York, he was working at Hofstra in some capacity and then eventually has a prominent role with with the Jets, and then eventually did some stuff with Pete Carroll and and now he's doing radio good Guy, great guy, and uh and those football final thought in this segment here, you know, the first depth art came out, and there's always a lot

of dissection, dissection of that first step chart and what it means and who's in the and all these things. Let's touch on offense. We'll get the defense coming up just a little bit. I found it interesting that the running back room is James Robinson or Carlos Hide, and then it's Travis et In along with those Zigbo and the third unit if you will, and then Ogu and Vally and ConTroll at the very bottom. But the Robinson Hide or Combo. I find that interesting. Um, First of all,

Carlos Hides a veteran. Is he on par with James Robinson's an eighth eighth year pro. No way. I'll say he's in better shape than he was when he was here before. He's in much better shape. And I got looking he's he's been good now he's been good wherever he's been. But yeah, after here just telling you did

j P. He is not James Robinson. Okay, James Robinson is one of the better backs in the National Football League, and he's probably the fastest back to the line of scrimmage when the ball snapped and I'm talking about from the time the ball is snapped to the running back crossing the line of scrimmage. There's not anybody faster in the league than James Robinson. He doesn't waste any time he plants, and he's downhill fast. And James Robinson, to me, is the undisputed starter, and I think E. T N

is not. And maybe, and I'm just thinking out loud here, if I was wanting to find a way to push E. T N, I might name Hide and James Robinson as co starters just to kind of, you know, give them a little extra just to let him know that, hey, look, you've got some work to do. Yeah, or put them three, But but putting them as behind the coast arters, maybe that'd given a little nuics And I'm not saying that that's what that was the intent there. But let me

ask you a question. Hit me, how many little drop passes. Have we seen out of Travis E. T N in the last tweak? Yeah, not many, we have, Yes, we have, there's been, there's been a number of them. I mean, that's part of the consistency. I think that they want to see out of him. But still, don't get me wrong, I think he's gonna be a dynamic player. And and the guy has I'm talking game breaking speed, but you gotta catch it before you can show the game breaking speed.

And he's had a little bit of drops and that is something that I think his concentration, the consistency still got to be there. But I think he is going to be a really good one. Yeah, he's gotta earn it though. But the other co starters, You've got Trevor Lawrence and Gardner Minshew's co starters. And I've I've said this before. I mean, for me, it's you know, it's

Gardner Minshew is a is a good backup. And I think that Trevor Lawrence is clearly as like we saw and I made the comment to Pat today and and and I'm not trying to say this to be mean, but that passed that Trevor Lawrence through the Deep one Okay, to Marvin Jones, if you gave Gardner Minshew the opportunity to try to make that throw ten times? Can he make it? Can you make it ten times? No? No, no, no? Can gave him can he make that throw one time out of ten? I mean I'd give him one. Yeah,

it would be hard, it would be more difficult. Listen. And I'm not trying to be critical. I'm trying to be real. I'm just saying that Trevor Lawrence was a first overall, a consensus number one overall pick for a reason. Lit's guy, I have special tests, right, Lawrence has some arrows in the quiver that mens she just doesn't it just doesn't have. And and there's no, there's nothing wrong with that because there might be things and Gardner Minshew's

arsenal that Trevor Lawrence doesn't have. But but that arm and the build ability to make a throw like that, that's tremendous. We'll come back in a moment. Logs defensive talk. I want to get your thoughts on the defensive line and a couple of bunch of co starters on defense in this step chart too. Quite a few, oh yes, quite a few. But I have opinions. I'm sure you do, and we can't wait to hear them when we come back.

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the Jaguars Radio Network of Jaguars Happy Hour. Plenty of discussion of the quarterback competition for the Jaguars coming up, but first logs, let's get to the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing healthcare for good. Dylan Moses on the active non football injury list. That feels like a longer term situation. Maybe a project head linebacker for Moses. Reserve COVID nineteen list. Daniel Thomas still officially on TAVAN. Brian was pulling some weight around behind him on the

side today. It looked like so he's on the way back. That's what Irvan Meyer said at least today, that maybe today is the last day to get him back off that list. And then urban Meyer had some other updates this morning on players. A couple of guys out. DJ Chark of course with a finger fracture. He's out, and Meyer said earlier he could be ready for should be ready for Week one. Left guard Andrew Norwell with an

elbow issue. He will not play Saturday. Another couple of guys he mentioned, Rudy Ford, the safety with a lower body issue. There's a chance he could play Saturday and then wide receiver Philip Door set the second with a hamstring tightness possible to play on Saturday night. And he said Logs that everybody else is not listed here, get ready to get some reps in. That's ah, it's exciting because about this time in camp you're just chomping at

the bit to finally face somebody else. You means you're tired. You're tired of again going against the same old guys, and it feels to get gets a little monotonous, and you've got to kind of fight through camp. But man, when you get the first preseason game, it's kind of like a breath of fresh air. It's like, Okay, now it's it's time, it's showtime. Let's go. They've had some receivers kind of in and out the last week or so.

They had to sign some guys, so that was a little four or five days ago, so they've had they got a lot of receivers on the roster right now and they're going to get a lot of reps. Let's talk defense down Logs, and you know we were we were going before the break, going through the depth chart of there's three different positions with co starters going into

preseason week one. And this is when you mentioned a while back, Joe Scholbern and Damien Wilson are listed as the starting MIC linebackers and and look, I think both of these guys are very capable. I think both of them are very capable at playing on first and second down. I think there might be a little bit of a slight edge to Joe Schobert once you get the third down. I think he has a little bit more speed. But look, Joe Schobert has been a tackling machine for a long time.

And Damien Wilson is physical, I mean physical, He's got he's bigger, he's more physical, and he has the scheme probably already imprinted in his brain because he's he's been in it before. So it's a it's a good, it's a good. You know, the more you have competition, just for example, the left tackle position with Cam Robinson and walk a little competition is good, man. And and the more you have it, the better off it's gonna be. And I know there's a couple of other positions at cornerback.

There's a couple of co starters in Sidney Jones, who is a veteran guy coming back from an injury. And then the second round pick, Tyson Campbell, who uh he should be the Marvel superhero called the Shadow because the guy can run and he's right in the hip pocket of wide receivers playing man. I mean, he's that good shadow he I mean, seriously, that was a cool name for him. Is that copyrighted? I don't think so, But

we should rush out and do it. I think if we could do that online right now, but seriously, I think I would. I had to give him. I called him the Shadow because I mean when I watched his college film, I mean, he was always right there. And when you watch him even out there now against the top of higher end talent than what he faced in college, he's doing them of the same exact things that you watched him do in college, and and he has elite speed.

And the guys that can stay with somebody, like when I said, when I call him Shadow, the guys that can't do that are the ones that don't have elite speed because they're always trying to make up for the lack of speed by maybe playing them a little bit more off. The guys that truly have elite speed they're not worried about somebody running by because they know they've got the speed to be able to make up and and catch them. And that's what this young man, Tyson

Campbell has. He's a good one. And now on the back end of that, doesn't have ball skills that there's a little bit of weakness. That's the one area that he's got to work on. I say, doesn't have ball skills ability to knock it down, but in some cases he's in position to where make a play on the ball and intercepted, which is what Like Andre Cisco, he's

one of the best at it. He's fantastic at it up at Syracuse SO And the other position on the back end of the defense of free safety, Rashon Jenkins is the starter at least on the first step charge strong safety. There are four co starters, Josh Jones or Jared Wilson, or Rudy Ford or Andre Cisco. And that's a good battle. I mean, Jared Wilson has been the

starter here for a number of years. Josh Jones has been a has a very physical element to his game, is a little bit of a liability I think and coverage sometimes, but if you're gonna play him in the box, he might have a little bit of an advantage. And Rudy Ford's a physical guy. Uh. Cisco Is I think is eventually the heir apparent just because of his ball skills. If he doesn't win it out right, well, but you remember now he's coming back from believing a c L.

That's pretty significant injury that he had. So what he's been out there every day as far as he has been in here, and he and you know a lot of guys that you see come back and I've had an a c L and and uh, and it's not easy in There are moments where you just don't feel normal. But when you watch him, you don't see any signs of him favoring that knee. So that's really good for

the Jaguars from that standpoint, great news for sure. I'm curious on a Saturday night, it's our first chance to see Urban Meyer and the coaching staff in a live game situation. We always talk about the players and the way they do it between the white lines on the field, but the communication between coaches I think will be key. And Urban Meyers said today that Darryl Bevil will be

in the booth. This year, the offensive coordinator, Schottenheimer will be on the field and he will communicate with the quarterback in the headset. Urban Meyer will be on the field obviously as well as part of that communication process.

But having a veteran NFL coaching staff around the quarterback and around the offense was important for Urban logs to to really try to figure out how to handle a quarterback and how to handle some in game communication and two minute drills and and things like that that are just different in the NFL than they are back in college. I think this might this might have been one of the great strength of urban Meyer was putting the offensive staff together. When I'm talking about is the tandem of

Bevil and Schottenheimer. If you didn't have two guys like that, then you'd want to make sure that you had the strongest voice on the sideline with your quarterback. So, in other words, if you didn't have Schottenheimer, Bevil would probably stay on the sideline because you've got to have somebody that can talk to the young quarterback. But with Schottenheimer that gives you the luxury of Okay, now we have

two people that can talk to the quarterback. One of them and and I'm sure that there's some type of an arrangement that they have worked out, because you don't want to get two guys always in one in each ear to where it just becomes where Trevor Lawrence is sitting there going, oh my gosh, okay, came to both of you, stopped talking, just let me hear one and so.

But when you watch him practice, Schottenheimer is the one who does a lot of the talking directly with Trevor Lawrence and with the quarterbacks and bevil and make sure that he doesn't over impose himself. So and I like having coordinators in the booth. I think it detaches from the emotion of the game and allows them to be a strategic play caller. And I like very calm, very calm,

out of the fray. But then some coaches like to be in the fray because they feel like they have to feel their team, feel their players, find out where they're at so that they have an understanding of what they want to do. But that's the responsibility also of the coaches on the field. But overall, this is all new for this coaching staff and urban Meyer, so this is not only preseason for the players from a lot

of standpoints. But this is also the preseason for a coaching staff that has a very nice blend of college and pro experience coaches. Hey, Urban, you need to challenge this call. He's never had that in his headset before. No, he's never had, you know, And look, we have this many challenges left. Urban's no, he's a smart guy, you know. And and smart guys figure things out. And if they can't figure something out, then they're gonna ask for help. And Urban is able to call on lots of different

people for help, now, okay. And perfect example is Jimmy Johnson was in the house. Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson. Congratulations to him. He was around this week. And that's what you do. I mean, if you don't know, then you ask questions so that you do know. One other person in the house this week was somebody that had coacher Vermeyer met when he toured the out East neighborhood earlier this year. Royce fed was his name, and he regularly cooks for the community on a small grill and

for folks that are around in that neighborhood. It's just above the stadium here above the Arlington Expressway. That's kind of the out east neighborhood there. Well, Coach Meyron avoided invited him to practice the other day and then Coach Meyron on behalf of shod Conning. The organization gave Royce a new grill, and not just a grill, this is a monster smoker logs. This thing was unbelievable. Uh, first

of all, it was eight meeting roys. I actually got to to drive the side by side a t V, U, TV whatever you wanna call and pull the grill out to them. They couldn't. They couldn't find a driver. The guy that was going to drive it. If anybody has experienced, they're looking around and going, okay, wait, lock Himan on to know how to drive a side by side either red neck. So they grabbed me and I hop on it and we drive it out there and and uh and it was awesome. It was awesome to see the reaction.

What a cool gesture that Urban Meyer in the organization had. And this is one heck of a cooker. Let's come back in a moment. Jaguars Radio network coverage begins. It's another hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghman will here from Shatt Griffin as well. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.