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Senior Reporter J.P. Shadrick and Analyst Jeff Lageman discuss the aggressive run game the Jaguars face in week 7 against the New York Giants.

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It is Thursday, October twenty. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and now a guy who believes complimentary barbecue is winning barbecue. J P Cha, Do I want the platter? Yes? I want it all. Welcome in the Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm j P. Shadrick. It's Thursday. It's week seven. The Giants and the Jaguars coming up at the Bank and a busy two hours ahead. Analyst Jeff lock have been coming up shortly, we'll hear from him about this Giants Jaguars matchup.

The defense with their hands full against the run this week, say Kwan Barkley, one of the top running backs in the NFL. The offense trying to build some momentum and they felt like they did a little of that last week in a losing effort in Indianapolis for the Jags. And then at five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show, we'll hear from the head coach coming up and get his thoughts on this matchup at the Bank. This week, the

Jaguars continued preparation for this week's seven game. Today, Shaquille Griffin off to the side on the exercise bike during the open media portion of practice. The full injury report coming up and just a little bit. Defensive coordinator Might called well today said he still has confidence in the veteran corner. Oh, it's still there. It's still there. You know. They make plays, We make plays, but we just have to make more plays and we have a confidence that

I can go back out there and do it. Uh, there's no loss of confidence in him. We're just ready for him getting to the shot. We'll see what happens on that injury report when it comes out a little bit later today. The challenge this week though, for the day for the Jags defense is running back say Kwan Barkley. Of course, defensive tackle Devona Hamilton this week explaining the running style. He's explosive, I mean more than anything. I mean, you can run the ball, he can juke, he can

run you over, he can go around you. So it's just so difficult, so dynamic for the player. The Jaguars is a whole this year fared well against the run, except really for the Eagles game when the Eagles went over two d on the ground. Now to the offense. Trevor Lawrence earlier this week on the play designs by the offensive coaching staff and how they work different players. Open. They do a good job. Our staff is really creative. UM does a good job scheming things up and at

the right time too. There's a lot of there's a lot of things that you know, we might have and UM, we decided not to call it, or we decided to just put it on the back burner for a week or two just because we don't feel like it's the right time or that we're ready to do that one yet.

So you know that, I think we're really smart with how we do things and coach especially, so then they do a great job with Then, Yeah, it's fun seeing UM all those plays as they go in and you know, it's it's it's always cool to see the guys they put in different situations, different positions. UM, and obviously when they're successful, that's that's great. One of those play designers

is offensive coordinator Press Taylor. Of course, he explains his approach when Doug Peterson goes forward on fourth downs, it's great. You know when you've got extra downs sometimes to get a first down. It's it's third and two, and you think, all right, if we just get half here or we try something, there's a good chance we got another down, So you can be aggressive in that mindset um in terms of scheme and things up, designing some plays um. But then you just know he's doing whatever it takes

to win. He's trying to give us an opportunity to win the game at each situation. So that's that's fun to be a part of. It is fun, certainly a lot more fun when it works out, and they'll keep being aggressive. That's the nature of head coach Doug Peterson. Of course. Then we'll hear from the head coach now earlier this week on Wednesday. The Giants have finished in the fourth quarter in a number of games this year, rallying from two scores down a few times this season.

There are similarities between the teams, but for Peterson, it's all about the Jacks. There are a lot of similarities, you know, when you look at the scoring, you know, you look at scoring my quarter, there's a lot of

a lot of similarities. They're both teams, I think. I think the number one thing that we just have to focus on is us, you know, and making sure that you know, we make plays and fourth in the fourth quarter, and we haven't done that well enough, you know, this year we're consistent enough, you know where where they are and and um, you know they're they're making those plays. They're in the right spot at the right time, and you know, and that's kind of way this lead goes.

Sometimes the ball bounces in your favor and and and give them credit. They're they're in the right position to make those plays. Um, And that's something that you know each week that we we learned from ours and you know, try to be in position week each week to you know, to come up with the ball or to make the play that that wins the game. More with head coach Doug Peterson coming up at five o'clock on the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. The Giants Jaguars

game is presented by Florida Blue. Florida's Blue Cross and Blue Shield company has been providing health insurance the residents of Florida for more than seventy five years, driven by its mission of helping people in communities achieve better health. Learn more at Florida Blue dot com. Jeff lockhaman joining us now ahead of this Giants Jaguars matchup. Good afternoon to your logs. Good afternoon, how are you I'm good. I'm doing really good. Okay, looking forward to this game

this week. You know, have to skin here three in a row. Well, I mean yeah, and then you've got a good football team coming in here with a good record, and you kind of got um, I guess you could say this is the Tom Coughlin game. You know, you kind of got a little bit of a marriage there between the two organizations through Tom Coughlin. But it's gonna be interesting from the standpoint of I think the Jaguar is gonna play well. I'm gonna start out and say

that right now. You're throwing that out there, so let's uh, let's dig into that. What do you mean by that? Well, what I mean by that is that this football team has played well across all spectrums of their team, but they just haven't been able to to make it happen a lot consistently to where all three facets of the game are playing well each week. You know, last week

it was the defense that didn't play well. The week before that it was the offense, and Philadelphia it was the offensive giveaways and the defense a little bit as well. But if they just start making plays that are there, if they stop having the self inflicted wounds, so to speak of that. I think this team is a really good football team. It's been competitive in every game that they've played. And this Giants football team, when I watched them,

I see a good football team because they're winning. But I don't see an elite team by any means. So, you know, is there a tone around here? Is something this week that makes you feel that? Or is it just time? No? I think I think it's it's just a you know, first of all, I thought last week, even though a lot of people don't look at it this way, I thought last week was a really big step for the quarterback and the offense as a whole. They showed that they could get a drive when they

needed it, and that was I thought was outstanding. And and to be able to put to put together eight team play drives at crunch time, that's hard to do at any time, but to do it at crunch time, it's damn near possible, and they were able to do it. In the third and thirteenth throw that Trevor Lawrence had was it was a wild moment for me when I saw it and I was like, Wow, that was great play and that's just I think a sample of what

he can do. I mean, I like the fact that he was willing to use his legs in some instances. Some cases he did not make the right decision where he rolled out into a sack and uh, and he's got a correct one thing. You don't ever run out of bounds and take a sack. Your offensive lineman will not like you for that. Throw it away, you know, don't take the two yard loss. But but yeah, I

thought that that was a big game for him. I think the coaching staff did a phenomenal job of instilling confidence and success in him through the game because he was coming off what was two really tough performances. He regrets from the Philly game to the Texans game. As a pass her. Now, the Philly game was worse just because the number of of of giveaways that he had, But as a passer of the game against Houston wasn't very good. I thought this game, he was obviously highly efficient.

You know, I don't think Daniel Jones has ever come close to completing that type of percentage in his career yet. So kudos Trevor, Kudos to the offense. Shame on the defense for not finding a way to make a play. I was gonna say, yeah. And then there's the defensive performance last week. Matt Ryan stood back there and completed forty two balls, a career high for a fifteen year

quarterback in the NFL. A lot of short things, but there wasn't a lot of consistent heat on him throughout the day as he got it out there, and then when it mattered for them, he finally through his longest ball of the day on his final throw of the day for the touchdown to win. Yeah. And then you can't have a rookie second round pick catch a ball over your prize free agent acquisition and from the year before cornerback. You just you just can't have that happening.

I mean, that's it was not a great performance by Shaq Griffin. Now he's on the injury report with a back and uh, you know, so I don't know if he's gonna play or not, but you'd like to have the ability, you know. I can tell you if you have a game like that as an individual, you want to come back and and fight back. I prove it was a fluke, right, and uh, and he may not be able to with the back injury, So that's disappointed. I'm sure that he's disappointed in that. But he's got

to play better. You know, he hasn't played poorly all year. But that game was not a good performance. I thought that the first game in Washington was not a good performance, especially when you gave up that one long pass that many people thought was all on him, but it wasn't. But it was partially on him. I think the responsibility of that big long ball to Terry McLaurin was on him,

you know. And he's just got to bounce back. I mean, shock Shack's got some skills to him now, he's just got uh got home back in and find his groove and and get comfortable because he's a good football player when he's on his game. There are ten other guys on the field also, and there were moments that the defense just couldn't get off the field, and they had other opportunities to do so as well. Wasn't just that

one play there was off the field. They could have had a more pass rush, they could have had a few other things happened. Well, there's the responsibility on the defensive side of the ball. Very shared from last weekend. Devin Lloyd didn't have a very good game at all, and that was his worst performance I think of the year.

You had a lot of miscommunication and execution of some coverage you got beat and a lot of man coverage from situations and routes that you really shouldn't have gotten beat to where you needed to be up on guys better. And so the pass rush wasn't where you needed against the Colts offense that had given up a league I sacks on Matt Ryan. You didn't impact him and get him off of the spot at times. There was a couple of pressures early, but then he seemed to evaporate.

And as a defensive front. That was the third lineup that the Colts had gone with with the offensive line in as many weeks, and so the consistency has not been there for the Colts offensive line and you weren't able to capitalize. That was disappointing. And then you also

made mistakes. You had interference calls. You had a personal foul roughing the passer call again and uh, and the awareness from Trayvon has to be there and that you can't put your arm up to block a pass and then follow through and down like a hammer fist style on the quarterback and you're gonna get it's gonna get called and you have to be able to bring that arm down. And on that play, if if Trayvon just takes it right through the stern hum of Matt Ryan,

he may not get up. That was the disappointing thing for me on that play was not so much that the hand coming down on top of the head, which, by the way, he got him. He got him, good, him shot, He got his money's worth, Okay, But man, if you just if you just drive right through him, it's a legal hit, and Matt Ryan, as old as he is, he may not get up. Like I said, this is Jaguars happy. R J. P. Shadwick, Jeff Flagman. The focus this week now on the Giants running game though.

This is one of the top rushing attacks in the NFL, and it's Sae Kwon Barkley. He's fresh off his knee injury. He's looks like he looks like at least he's back to old form. He's number one of the league and carries excuse me, number two and carries number one in yards four touchdowns. Uh, He's pretty much everything to this Giant's off He's number one in in total yards from scrimmage, number two in rushing yards, and and he is um has the most carries per game of any running back

in the league. He is the leading receiver for the Giants offense. I mean this offense runs through se Kwon Barkley. Make no mistake about it. He's back to the form that he had and maybe even a little bit better than he was as a rookie going back as he was the same play class I believe with Josh Allen and Sa Kwan. I think was the third overall pick in that draft, and he was kind of the toast of the town in New York and good football player now and he's healthy after having a couple of years

where he wasn't. And if they don't have him on offense, I think they're struggling as an offense the offensive line that they have. It's okay. He got two first round picks on the outside, one of them from this past year from your university, the University of Alabama, Evan Neil. I think he was like the seventh overall pick in

the draft. On the left side, you've got the Georgia guy who was a first round pick a couple of years ago Andrew Thomas, who is the number one rated tackle according to PFF, and watching the film on him, he's a really good football player. The two guards in the center or just got okay. And so I think this is a game that you know the strength of your game. Hopefully you get fought Akassi back. The strength of your defense has been your your big strong guys

up front. You put your big strong guys against their guys in the middle that aren't as good. That's not the strength of their offensive line. You dominate that. And then you you shut down Barkley and that will not allow him to get going. And I think you've got a great chance. And once you stopped Barkley, now the one thing that you've got to be aware of Daniel Jones can run. That's the one thing I think that

scares you more than anything about him. I think as a passer, he's got a capable arm, but he's not a he's not a great passer. The wide receiving Corps they're still trying to kind of figure out who they got. They're playing some rookies. They've got two guys listed as starters that were inactive last week, which is a very curious situation. Kadarius Tony and Kenny Golladay, both of these guys I think are on the trading block and that's probably why they're listed as starters. Arris Tony was a

first round pick I think last year. Wow, talking about falling out of grace fast. That happened quick, for sure. We've got plenty ahead of course. In the next hour and forty five minutes will come back with the Jaguars offense facing this Giants defense and the Giants defensive line was some big time names and another first round pick who finally made a splash last week for Big Blue. The second hour, coming up at five o'clock is the Doug Peterson Show. We'll hear from the Jaguars head coach.

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Coming up at five o'clock The Doug Peterson Show will hear from the Jaguars head coach coming up, j P. Shadrick with Jeff Logerman, Joe Fortunado, Britt Reaver on the audio and video respectively, and the Jaguars and the Giants coming up in week number seven. The Jags at two and four, the Giants at five and one. They've rallied a bunch of times in the fourth quarter. The Jaguars have not. Unfortunately, they have not played well and late

in games especially. They did finally on offense last week, as we mentioned just a minute ago Logs. They had that ten minute drive and change and eight teen plays and took the lead and ran the ball for the six most yards in a single game in franchise history, and did a lot of things pretty well on offense, taking what Indie gave them, of course. But now they're facing this giant defense and there's some names up front now. Dexter Lawrence has a sack in three consecutive games, big

defensive tackle about three pounds. Leonard Williams is on the squad. Cavon Thibodeau finally starting to maybe find his way on the edge. He finally had a sack last week, a forced fumble on that sack fumble to end the game. Yeah, you know, top top five pick. I think he was fifth overall. I believe out of Oregon. Good player. Got lots of burst, but still kind of trying to figure it out, like a lot of young pass rushers do.

Trayvon Walkers in the same category. But the sack that he had, many people kind of felt that the game was already secure for the Giants. But nonetheless the sack calls fumble there at the end of the ball game of Lamar Jackson to kind of seal the deal, and uh, the big guys up front. Uh, for me, I'm the guy that I really like is Dexter Lawrence. And Dexter Lawrence is is more of a nose tackle than he

is a three technique. But what's impressive about him is the size and the quickness, the movement skills that he has for kind of a nose tackle type of guy. He's got four sacks and I think doing large part because Wink Martin Dale, the defensive coordinator who they essentially stole from the Baltimore Ravens. Is a really good football coach, really good football coach, and I give him a lot of credit because the scheme that he runs, I think is creative, and he's also one of the one of

the player's favorites. And how the Ravens let him go, it's kind of surprising. What are some characteristics of his scheme or schemes or is there truly one scheme for him? He'll he'll dial it up on it. He's gonna dial up a lot of blitz and I think he blitz is at a rate that's higher than anybody in the National Football League. He's gonna play a lot of different coverages,

he's gonna play a lot of different personnels. He's gonna challenge quarterbacks to identify with these different personnel groupings that he has and uh and the other part of him, I think is that sometimes he can be unpredictable. You know, Rex Ryan used to be a coordinator that would do things that really weren't conventional and Martin Dale can every now and again pull something out like that as well.

To where as a quarterback, there really there's nothing about the defense with the coverage that makes sense, and it's just something he's willing to risk, maybe one area to get or gain an extra guy and another area to to conceal something or to fool the quarterback. And that's sometimes can be very difficult and challenging for a quarterback. But the good thing is is that Trevor Lawrence has

been very efficient in a lot of games. And if he can continue to be efficient and protect the ball, there's gonna be some opportunities for some incredibly big pet plays in this game because of the number of man opportunities. Because JP, as you know, you can play all the man you want if you've got the if you've got the players to be able to cover man okay, and you can bring the pressure. And name me one New York Giants corner that you think is a really good player.

I couldn't tell you. I mean, that's kind of it, right, I mean, he's the top of my head. I mean he's got a Dorry Jackson, who when he was in Tennessee was kind of a nickel guy. Uh. Fabian Moreau was kind of a journeyman a little bit not really viewed as being a starting quality high quality caliber guy. I think that I think the Jaguars match up well

against the perimeter of this Giant's defense very well. So some big place, huh, I mean well, I mean I hope the longest past play of the years, like forty something yards, isn't it? Well, I hope. I mean, I'm not saying that's a it's a lock. I'm not gonna No, I don't lock. How many seventy yard touchdowns in this game? Three? You're going over kidding, I'm joking, but no, I mean it's would be nice. It's something that we haven't seen a lot of this year. There's been a lot of hey,

take the easy, check it down. That's fine, but at some point this is a league of big, explosive plays. You're not gonna have eight team play drives every time. Well, and it also it'll be interesting to see what wink Martindale, which is kind of funny, right, I mean, when do you a TV show host show back in today game show? Right? So I mean, how do I guess wink Martindale? I mean, that's became his kind of nickname. His real name is Don, right, is it Don? Whatever it is Don Don Wink Martindale,

But will he play the man in the blitz? Because what have we seen the last two teams do against Trevor and have success? They played zone Lovey Smith played a ton of cover to Gus Bradley played a lot of three deep zone. So will Martindale stick with what he does best even though the last couple of weeks what's worked against Trevor has been more of his own concept. I think that's gonna be fun to watch and to see how he approaches this ballgame from a game planned perspective.

Wells as play the season forty nine yards Week one at Washington and then they had a forty five yarder at Philly. So those are the only think that yeah, it sounds right, um, but hey, and you know at some point you gotta get it down the field and make some plays in those situations. Explosive plays are are everything you know when you know during the course of

the game. In the broadcast Christian Kirk, by the way, on in the game broadcast, I always keep track of every drive and you know, number of plays, the number of yards, and then I always write down the number of explosive plays on every drive. And it's amazing how the drives that are scoring drives all have either one too or multiple explosive plays. That's how you score in this league and what we Many people have different definitions

of explosive place. Mine has always been pretty simple. A run of ten plus and then a past reception of fifteen plus. That's that's an explosive place. Some people have twelve and in sixteen as the kind of the the bar the bars for both of those categories. But I mean, however you do it, explosive plays are always the key to getting the getting good offense and scoring points. And a lot of people will say, you know, be conservative,

run the ball, move the change. Well, I mean that's fine in theory, but it's not very common that you can continue to string plays together because it's hard to do that. Explosives make the wheels go on, but the wheels on the bus go round and round GP and you didn't know that. And you can flip the field, you know, if you get a forty yard or boom, you're all of a sudden and deep in their territories. You don't know any kids get you don't have any kids,

you know, so you've never had any kid. Joe done either. So you know, you guys have no idea what I'm talking about. Well, Joe, I mean, Joe will stay at home and each Cheetah was and watch kids programming sometimes, so he probably knows. Your point is an explosive play can flip the field and and you know, instead of three or four carry, boom, you're twenty yards and you're

into their territory and here we go. And the disappointing thing I think from a Jaguars explosive play standpoint this pass game is that there was one play in particular that wasn't It wasn't explosive play, but it wasn't as explosive as it should have been. Do you know which one I'm talking about? Which one? Tell us the Travis E. T N play? For like yards? It looked like he had the step at first, and then the safety kind of came over and cut off the angle at the end.

What happened there? Okay, Well, I mean, what does Travis E. T N always been through high school and college fast the fastest guy on the field. Has he ever had to face guys that run to same speed as him? Probably not not much, if if at all. Right, So when Travis has been in the open field before like that, he didn't have to do anything different, but then just

run if if he does something. And when you talk to Fred Taylor this week, okay, because I know you've got some things going on with pre and post, Okay, you need to ask Fred's countdown to kick off that starts at noon on the Jaguars Radio Network's Sunday before. You need to ask Fred what he could have done differently on that run. And Fred will tell you two things. One, he could have threatened the cutback or the as he was running, which would have been the defender's left shoulder.

He could have threatened the defender's left shoulder to make him turn his hips in some fashion to slow down. Or he could have given him the old Fred Taylor dead leg which makes him kind of stutter for a second, and then just kept on rolling and accelerated away from him. It would have been a house call, but a learning experience for a young player, even though he's in his second year. This is essentially Travis's rookie year. But that could have should have whipped been I think a touchdown.

But he had a great game, by the way, right, Okay, there it is there, just stutter do anything to disrupt the defensive back safety from just running flat out. That's all you had to do. I mean beautifully blocked by the way, which Christian Kirk got a phenomenal block. The safety inserts he comes in late and Christian Kirk goes

in there and digs him out. He actually gets two blocks on the play because he blocks the safety and then he actually blocks well the backside linebacker kind of runs into him, but it still goes down as the second block. I mean, kudos to the wide receivers. I thought they had an excellent blocking day. Another long run in the game that Travis E. T N had, it was a Jones that got a really nice block digging

a safety out. That one. It was Christian Kurt And by the way, the tight ends man Hurts Man Hurts is doing a great job block and the sixty one yard or by Jamachael Hasty Chris Man Hurts absolutely man handled the guy on that side of the line of scrimmage. And also the backup tight end Luke Ferrell did a great job and there was an unbalanced look you had the two tackles over there. Cam did a great job him and Juwan So. I mean, I love the way

they're blocking right now up front. And that's why another reason why I feel really good about this game, because I the Giants have two pretty good players on the inside, linebackers, guys on the edge against the run. I think the Jaguars will be able to have some success in JP. What's the best way to hit explosive plays as an offense? The mo successful way of hitting explosives? It's a quiz. I'm testing your football knowledge. I mean, well tell me.

Why don't you just tell us the answer. You're not gonna try to get no play action? Thank you? Are you run the ball with success? Play action? Tom Coughlin was set that all for years JP. You didn't pay attention. Doug Bron said that for years. Dog Peterson will tell you play action, play action. I like it, but you have to establish a run to make the play action bite. You don't have to you don't have to dominate the

run game for play action to work. But you have to have a realistic threat of a run game for play action to work. And that's all you need. And Travis E. T n right now, I guarantee you coordinators around the league that are preparing for The Jaguars are respecting and honoring number one skill set, which is going to allow some play action to happen. Got to hit them, Gotta hit those open guys too, and that's the next

step which we've a little bit earlier in the season. Hey, plenty ahead will come back in just a little bit with the injury report whenever it comes out officially, has not come out yet from the Jaguars pr staff as of this afternoon. We'll get you the latest when we do have it, though. And then at five o'clock it's the Doug Peterson Show. Jaguars head coach will join us.

We'll get his thoughts on this matchup against the team he knows very well, of course, an old division rival in the NFC East, the New York Giants, coming to town to face Peterson and his new team, now the Jacksonville Jaguars. Check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's free on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you download pods. Of course, this show is archived the Huddle Up Podcast, the Ozone Podcast,

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The Giants and the Jags coming up this Sunday at t I A Bank pild one o'clock the kickoff time, and of course we'll have the public tailgate show at ten o'clock and then countdown to kickoff on the network at noon and we'll hear from Bob Poppa this week the Giants played by play announcer. He's been the voice of the Giants since I believe N Golf Channel. He's all over the place. Yeah, so we're excited to catch

up with him. The full podcast coming up. He just did he just drive in and do the nvie didn't know he did not. He's a sin and he lives in our area which is pretty wild, so but golf involved. So he's got a lot going on on both sides. So well, good for him, he's he's an excellent broadcaster. Yeah, So we'll get his insight to the Giants coming up on the Official Jaguars podcast network and on content to

Kickoff coming up a little bit later this weekend. So the Jacksonville Jaguars injury report, it has not come out officially today yet. I have not seen Thursday's update. But here's what we had yesterday. Jamal Agnew did not practice yesterday with a knee issue. Shaq Griffin was out with a back issue, and as we said at the start of the show, he was off to the side at least in the open part of practice today on an

exercise bike on the side. Was not in the stretch today for the Jags, there were four players limited yesterday fully fought Akassi with the quadriceps. Devon Hamilton a foot issue. We heard from him earlier on this show. Marvin Jones Jr. With a hamstring limited. He's feeling good, he said in the locker room today. And then for you Lucan with a calf injury. Was that limited yesterday? Calf for a quad calf It says for Fourier for he's got the quade.

So when we get the Thursday update will pass that along as well. But there you have it. So the first few weeks at least, the Jaguars were i mean historically clean on the vine. And they're still pretty healthy. I mean it really, you know, knock on wood. You know, they've been pretty healthy and that's uh, that's a good thing they have been. And but you know, if they can get if they can get fully Photocosi back in there on the defensive line, that was a huge part

of the first couple of weeks of this defense. He's he's just he's strong as hell. I mean, he's he can He's a two gap defender. You know. That's you know, not not to say that he's on par with Marcus Stroud and John Henderson, you know for some of the Jaguar fans that that watch those in their heyday, but those guys, we used to call them three gap defenders because they could essentially take care of three gaps by themselves and fought. Akaci I think is close to that.

And he's he can take care of his gap, and he's strong enough and stouting up he can throw a blocker to the side and then come over and and make him play in another gap or two gaps over sometimes and so he I think is uh And then also I think he can push the pocket on some early Dowlands as a pass rusher and that that always helps. So getting him back, if they do in fact get him back, would be a really nice for a little return for the defense. A couple other guys will get

to here. Jamal Agnew that's key for a number of reasons if he's unable to go with a knee issue, and um, he said he did it on the end around the handoff kind of thing is where he felt it. So uh hey that that affects the kickoff return and the punt return game as well well. And I think you're the kickoff return game. You can find a way to make that okay. I mean, you're not gonna have the skill set back there of what Jamal Agnew was giving you. I'm not trying to say that you're you're

you know that's gonna be even. But a lot of times the kicks are going out of the end zone and you're not even getting a return out of it anyway. So that doesn't I think impact the game as much as not having him as a punt returner. Number one is securing the catch, and with Agnew you trust him incredibly because he's gonna catch the ball and hold onto

the ball. And when you go to somebody that's the next man up in the punt return, sometimes it's not always the most dependable or somebody that's at the level that you trust. And so it will be interesting to see who they put back there and what are there, what are their instructions. Are their instructions gonna be bring it back or are their instructions gonna be just make the catch or just let it go whatever it is, right,

I mean, because um, he's far well. The special teams coordinator in training camp right before the season, I think I asked him, is he a green like guy? Agnew get the green light anytime he wants? He's pretty much yeah. Basically trust if he can see it, and they trust him enough to to take it up, they trust him to make the right decision. I would guess there's nobody

else on the roster that gets that. I don't know my opinion, Well, I mean yeah, maybe not, maybe not maybe so, I mean we don't I haven't really seen it. I don't know that. I mean that, uh, hopefully He's gonna be okay, though, Jamal Agnew and can get back sooner rather than later because he has I think provided a boost to the offense and we really haven't seen the magic in the return game yet this year out

of him. But all it takes is one touch with him. Yeah, one little crease and there he goes from a hundred and nine or whatever he wants. And perfect example. You remember in the game Agnew's out, He's on the sideline, helmet in hand, and like, okay, well, what's gonna happen. Well, Chris Claybrooks goes back for the kickoff return fields the kickoff return, starts going up the field and runs right into one of his own guys. So it's just like,

oh man, that's not what you wanted. So uh And clay Brooks has been a pretty decent, you know, returner so far, You've been okay, but that one, I don't think Jamal would ran into his own guys. One other injury that we need to discuss, and it's the one that let off this show, and I'm sure he is leading off many of this week. It's Shaquille Griffin the

back issue and of course did not practice yesterday. I was off to the side today, as we mentioned, no official word on his status today, but coming off the game last week and now on the report this week, if he's unable to go, how do they shake up the secondary here? Well, for first and foremost, it's it's never a good look when you have a tough game and then you come and you've got an injury. You always want to have guys that come back and are

ready to go, to bounce back, etcetera. But look, I've learned one thing in football and that you never you never kind of assume anything when it comes to injuries. I mean, injuries are real in in football, and so I'm not questioning whether he's hurt or not. This is not a situation that we had a couple of years ago with somebody that were jamal okay to get it out there. I mean, when Jalen had this mysterious back injury.

This I don't believe this is it, okay, This is nothing like that, And so what do they do if Shock doesn't go. My guests would be Trey Herndon has done a good job in the past. I think that Darius Williams could be a guy that moves out the corner on base downs, but since he's been playing a ton of nickel. When I say the nickel, so when you go three corners, he's in the slot and he's extremely athletic, which typically that's where you see the athletic

guys is in the slot. My guess is that he would probably stay in the slot and then you'll bring Trey Herndon out to play corner or maybe Clay Brooks. I mean Trey Herndon probably because he's been pretty good when he's had the opportunity to be out there. And then you keep rolling, you know, you keep rolling, and I've got confidence and Trey Herndon, he's done a good job here before. He's a better zone player than he

is a man player. And we and you go back to when Todd Walsh was coaching this defense, they actually had two different nickel packages. They had a nickel package. When they wanted to play zone, Trey Herndon was the nickel. When they wanted to play man, they put in Claybrooks. The Playbrooks was your nickel, and it was kind of a the tip right for the opposed opposing offenses because you've got different personnel based on whether you want to

play man or zone. But that's where they felt the most offendite that they could have successes defense back then. So uh, I think he'll be fine in the back end. And I hope Shack bounces back because I thought last year he played very well. He had a couple of good games. This year he had a couple of games it weren't so good. I gotta get him healthy and back out there and back on the field, get him right. We'll see once we have the update officially, we'll bring

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about done. It looks like we saw some photos from inside there earlier this week on social media from the first downtown Jacksonville people, and they do a great job, of course, And the construction is scheduled to be finished and ready to roll and the Jaguars to move in by training camp of next summer, this coming summer twenty three, looking forward to that. What a what a beautiful day outside as well. Last couple of days stuck in this, were in the offices here at the bank right and

we're like, we're in the cave. There's no windows in here. You could be in here eight hours and not even know, you know what time of day it is. It could I think it's two am right now. I have no idea. I haven't walked outside since apparently this morning you look at Yeah, it's it's what it is. Um. You know, you need a little vitamin D every now and again. JP should get up. And I walked out to practice today.

That's the only reason I know. There's the sunshining and our look live at the at the Miller Electric Center. How is that what you do? You go out there and just look at it? No, No, we just took a look at you out there and get some sun and just look at it. Well, sometimes when I come down from lunch, I'll take the outside route right above it. But we're getting a little too into the weeds, as they say. Now anyway, it's gonna be anyway, looking forward

to that. The Giants Jaguars game, presented by Florida Blue. Florida's Blue Cross and Blue Shield Company has been providing health insurance to residents of Florida for more than seventy five years, driven by a submission of helping people and communities achieve better health. Learn more at Florida Blue dot com. Giants or five and one. The Jaguars are two and four and the Jags have dropped three in a row

after a two and one start. Both of these teams have been in games in the fourth quarter a lot of the year. The Giants have won those games. The Jaguars, for the most part, have not been able to finish those games out get a win. This week. Hey three and four had a dual London home away from home next week to face a limping Broncos offense at Wembley. If offense, yeah, the limping team is a whole yeah, but we'll get to that game next week. But you feel a whole lot better if you can just snap

it now then get on the plane and head. The biggest question mark in the league right now is the Denver Broncos being run by Nathaniel Hackett and Russell Wilson at the helm. He's got a hamstring, a shoulder, he's got everything going yeah, and just got a big deal that has I think ties him to that organization and for the next you know, counting this year or the next three years, and they don't have a choice but to have him as their quarterback. And he's not playing

very well. Started the game out the other night, I think ten of ten or something like that was pretty good, but then just kind of failed for the rest of the game. Not not a good situation. To be in and with new ownership and in Denver, it will be interesting to see how much patience that they have. Yeah, Denver is thirty in the league on third down on offense this year and twenty in total offense. That's not so good now, last time I checked, that's that's not

so good. We'll get to that, of course next week before the Jaguars hop on the plane and head to London. The Giants, on the other hand, are right there at the top of the league, near the top in rushing offense. They've got se Kwan Barkley, They've got confidence, they've got a head coach who gets the most out of what he has to offer. They've got a defense that attacks, and their winning football games. And there there they beat some good teams. Now, they beat Green in London, right,

that was their London game. Aaron Rodgers had the ball in his hand with a chance to go down the field and they ended it. Beat Tennessee, beat the Baltimore Ravens. Those are those are three good football team. Dallas is a pretty good football team. So, I mean, they've got some nice wins. And the impressive thing I think about the Giants is that Brian Dable, who's their head coach, has gotten I think a lot of credit for what they're doing, and as he should. If you look at

where he's been, he's one. Where he's been. He won super Bowls with the Patriots. He goes with Nick Saban for a year, they win a national title, and then he Many people point to Josh Allen, who's the quarterback

Josh Allen the Buffalo Bills. They point to Brian Dable as one of the keys in his development, and he is getting the best out of the best from a quarterback in New York who has struggled who they did not pick up his fifth year option because they felt the Daniel Jones was not going to be a franchise guy, or they felt it wasn't worth the risk of paying

him and picking up that option. Here but right now, and I'm not saying that Daniel Jones is a great quarterback, and I'm not saying he's a franchise guy or but I can tell you this Brandable has him playing better than he has in the past. And that's all you can do as a coach is to get the most out of your players, and right now he's getting the most out of Daniel Jones more so than anybody has ever gotten out of him. He uses his legs a good bit in this attack. Of course, here's an example here,

here's an example of that. And I was shocked when I was looking at these numbers because second on bark Barkley is getting the most carries per game of any running back in the National Football League. But Daniel Jones to himself, he has forty seven carries on the season. Forty seven carries. Okay, let's compare that to Trevor who has twenty. Okay, came last twenty exactly. So the previous season high for Daniel Jones and carries was going back

to which was six. He's got forty seven out That puts him on pace right now of having a hundred and thirty three, which would more than double his previous season high of Russia's. That's staggering. Well, I mean, part of it is who's he gonna throw the ball to. They don't have big name receivers out there to his his high water market in passing yards this year's two seventeen yards. That was in London against Green Bay and he was twenty one seven in that game and they

don't throw it to those guys now. And the interesting part is if if you look at who's at the top of of his receptions, you gotta a running back in a tight end something, right. You got Barkley who's leading receiver with twenty one catches, and then Bellinger. Is it Bellinger or Bellinger? He's a rookie tight end and he's a good player now, fourth round pick out of San Diego State. He's a good player, good blocker, good all round player. He is right up there with fifteen catches,

so he's third. So you're looking at it from top down. Barkley leads with one. James is second, and that's Richie James. He's a wide receiver from Middle Tennessee State. He's second with nineteen catches, and then Bellinger, the tight end is next with fifteen catches. I mean that's kind of weird, right, a running back and a tight end two of your

top three receptions leaders, uh for your quarterback. And compare that to the Jaguars, where you have is a Jones at the top, Christian Kirk in second of an Ingram, and then Marvin Jones. So three out of your top four are wide receivers, very different offensive and so it's this offense that the New York Giants run, it's it's it's obviously revolves around s Kwon Barkley as a runner,

but also his receiver. They're trying to throw a lot of high percentage underneath kind of short stuff because they feel like that that's important to the growth of Daniel Jones and the success of their offense. Is that sustainable for the long haul for them, though, Well, we'll see.

I think it's a great question. It's worked before. But if you look at the history of Daniel Jones and new coaches, typically after a while, I don't want to say they figure things out, but people start to adjust, and hopefully this Jaguars defense can adjust because this pass game they struggled. You know who likes to see the Giants on the schedule, Doug Peterson. He's eight and two against them as a head coach with the Philadelphia Eagles. What do you want to what do you want to

hear from Doug Tonight on his program? Uh? You know, it's kind of interesting because when when you face the Giants, first of all, it's one of the story franchises in the NFL. You know, I wanted to know if he watched him as kid, because I were up watching the Giants, did you they were on? Sure? Okay? Who and then who were they? Who was good? No? No, it was

these are my later days. I mean it was Sims and they hit the you know, the Bills missed the field goal, and you know, I remember, you know, growing up because the Redskins were my dad and his friends team they watched every Sunday. But I just remember Lawrence Taylor terrorizing left tackle Joe Jacoby and Lawrence Taylor was the most dominant player maybe ever in NFL history as far as defense goes and uh Parcels and Carl Banks.

They had some really good players on that defense. Jim Burt, Leonard Marshall, some of those guys I played with at once. I got in the next my first preseason game ever, walked out of the tunnel. Lawrence Taylor were standing right there, and I went and looked out in my way it, Oh my god, that's warts Taylor. Bothrelor both wore fifty six in New York. Yeah, he worred a lot better

than I did coming up the Doug Peterson Show. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour, of course, Tonight on television Jaguars All Access Live from String's Brewery in Springfield. On Fox Dirty Josh Allen I believe Travis E. T N is the guest Tonight. Jaguars running Back The Doug Peterson Show is coming up next. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on Jaguars Radio.

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