Biggest takeaways from Eagles loss | Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 3

week number four. The Eagles now four, no Jaguars two and two. We've got fanatics, fan questions. In the second hour, we'll go around the NFL also, But let's hear from head coach Doug Peterson. He spoke this afternoon after reviewing the tape. The Jaguars had an early fourteen nothing lead, but then missed opportunities five turnovers on offense, four of those fumbles from the quarterback. They had issues against the run,

to say the least against the Eagles. They went for two ten on the ground against the Jags and plenty of teachable moments. Obviously, it is what it is. We lost a football game, but when you look at it, there's there's place to be made, you know, and our guys we'll learn to make them, you know as we go in time, they'll learn to do that. And you

know it's uh there teachable moments, um. But at the same time, you know, you start running out of time, right Your season is moving along, is moving fast, and we're in the week five and we keep saying there's a lot of ball ahead of us and all that. But if we don't fix it, you know, you're gonna look up and you're gonna you're gonna say, I wish I wish I could you know, or or that should

have would have could have deal? Um. But yeah, it's very very teachable um moments for us as an offense, for a team, even even defensively, you know, to make make the plays that come to you. Don't go chasing plays you know when they come, make them, and you know we'll be better off for him. That's the head coach today. Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco joined us from elsewhere on this Monday, and good afternoon. Pete, Let's start with you today what's up. Yeah, that's um boy ball security.

Take care of the damn football. I don't care how wet it is. You have to take care of the football. That was not a good performance at all for Trevor Lawrence. And it seemed to me, and you guys would know better than me because you were you you talked to the group there, But it looked like the wet ball really bothered him and really impacted the way he played.

By the way, when he the first fumble, when he dropped it on that it wasn't the turnover, but he recovered it, but he had a guy wide open that would have continued that drive and it was getting ready to throw it to him and it fell out of his hand. Yeah, it was officially a turnover there. It was recovered by the Eagles. It was fourth but that's right. It was fourth down. That's right, it's fourth down. But

it didn't matter if he recovered it or not. But it's still he had a guy on He had a guy open, Tim Jones I think was open right in front of him and he would have hit him for a first down. So little things the center exchange, by the way, I'm gonna go back to that play, the play before Travis E. T N got the first thing. Why didn't they challenge that? I think he got it.

It was first glancing here in the studio. We were sitting here watching to me and Mike Dempsey were here, and that was the first thing we said, take a challenge on this. It was It wasn't even closed. He was about a yard over. I mean at least a half yard over. Yeah, I mean that was a bad decision by Doug Peterson. He should have challenged that. I didn't like that, call Um. I didn't like up fourteen seven, the third and ten draw. I didn't like that one bit.

And I get it it's raining, but you had hit some passes already in the rain, so clearly you could have hit some more. Um. But yeah, I mean it's a ball security JP. If you don't take care of the football, you're not gonna win games. Yeah. And they had obviously taken the ball away a bunch of this year and had the benefits of that. Let's try Tony, but Sally, are you with us? Tony, good afternoon. I'm with you. I'm with you. Can you hear me? We've got you? Clearly audio wise at least we don't have

to look at you. We got the best of both worlds. Whatever I turned the camera on, it's not working, though. We'll try to redial it during the break. But yeah, I mean I agree with most said. I mean, I don't think unless you were there you can appreciate how bad that weather was and the wind was gusting. Um. And I think the wind is as much of an issue, you know, especially for a young quarterback to deal with in anything. Um. And you know, but it was a team.

If you look at what the formula for the victory and the two games coming into that game, it was dominating the lines with scrimmage um good I'm gonna think rate, but good quarterback play and no turnovers. And they were minus four on the day, and they were fortunate they weren't minus five because of the Christian of the James Robinson fumbled that bounced right to Christian Kirk. And so they came into the season plus seven and now they're

gonna be plus three. Um. And so like the formula that they had used to win football games, they did everything opposite of that. Now, the good news is, you played really poorly against a very good team on the road and you still had the chance with the ball in your hand a minute fifty four to go down and tie it up. And so there's you know, yes,

it's not where you wanted to be. Yes, it's a it's a game where you're gonna get You're gonna look back and be frustrated that you think you should have won or very easily could have won if it wasn't you didn't have the self afflicted um mistakes, you know, pain and the mistakes. But you can't turn it over. And Trevor didn't play well, and there was other guys that didn't play well. It's not all in Trevor. I thought the defense was very poor in their gap um

gap integrity. They were chasing ghosts, they were um, they were not stout. Now that's a very good Eagles offensive line, but they played most of the game without their starting left tackle and still, um, we're very effective. And there was not There was no real pass rush, and I think that's something that again, this team is not a great pass rushing team one on one. They're just not. That's something that I thought. Alui Kohn was really bad

on Sunday. I think he got credited for about six tackles. He had sixteen, Devon Lloyd had twelve, Roy Robertson Harris had nine. That's thirty nine total tackles. But but Louis Khan had sixteen tackles and didn't play well. Yeah down the field, I mean you gave up two hundred plus rushing yards and so um you had a hard time getting off the field. Uh, you got pushed around a

little bit. And and I didn't thing. I didn't think either lou Khan or definitely play great as far as far as gap integrity and really being where you needed to be. So um, yeah, this is gonna be a tape that was no fun to watch today for a lot of guys. And but again I go back to

the beginning of the year. Have you just said this team is going to be two and one should be three and oh theys make the basic plays, go into the only undefeated team left in the NFL play as poorly as they did, but still have a chance with the ball in your hand at the end of the game to go put a drive together and win it or tie it. Like okay, like so like it's it's not good and I'm not trying to you know, you know, color this and look at this in rose colored glasses.

But let's also be realistic. This is a team that's that is still in building, in the building process and learning. And I think you know yesterday it was a little but a little humble pie. Yeah, but Tony, and please admit this to me, because I know he was going through your mind when it was fourteen. Oh that I was you. You were thinking they might be the best team in the league right now. I wasn't actually set. I wasn't thinking they're the best team in the league.

I was thinking the lock is on fire this year, the lock is a lot. I mean, here's the other thing I want to put out there, because I know I've seen some of this on Twitter today about Trevor Lawrence. You would feel five thousand times more worse about him if he threw four bad interceptions then the than you do about him losing four fumbles. Agreed. I agree? Yea, yeah, okay. Because the center exchange that was on he pulled out early, it looked like, just from what I was looking at,

the one he dropped the foot poll right through his hand. Yeah, the one, the one he dropped the football on that was just not mishandling a wet football. The two other ones Juan Taylor who had been stout and pass protection, that's on him. I would say the last one, I think Trevor might have held it a tick long. I think you gotta get rid of that. I mean, he would you know, there was nobody I watched the tape today. There was nobody open on that play. I thought that.

I thought the in cut the second level. I don't know, Tony, it didn't look like it on the last on the very last one you're talking about, I don't think so, but I'll look at it again. But again I thought, you know, again, if you if he throws four interceptions to somebody's stomach in the middle of the field four times, you feel ten times worse than him fumbling the football. That doesn't excuse him from ball security. You know, it's the first time was since nineteen seventy nine a guy

lost four fumbles in a game. It's incredible when you think about it. But Pete, I guess the biggest thing to me was, I mean, they're up fourteen nothing and Trevor overthrows the double move that's a touchdown, and at twenty one nothing. That's a different game. Like at twenty one nothing, It's like the Eagles are going, um, what's going on? And then you know, okay, great, you overthrew

a guy. It's windy, that could happen. I mean it's not the easiest, you know, on condition to the ball in, but then you just you dropped the ball when you you either can run for a first down or throw it to Tim Jones and you're moving it. I mean, you're you're moving and you're at least coming with field goal. And at seventeen nothing at the three possession game, I mean, that's just I know there's plenty of time left, but still I think just sends it different. If he's that

shot down the field, they win that game. I agree, and and but again I'm gonna go back to four seven. I didn't like that play called third and ten at all. That was a message to me. That was a message sending play call that you're trying to hang on for

dear life. It was. It was first and ten from their own twenty five after the Eagles that scored their first touchdown fourteen seven Jaguars at this point, So Lawrenson complete the Christian Kirk short laughs, Lawrenson complete, Tim Jones short left and then E. T. N Overwright tackle for no game. I didn't like that, and I didn't like

that entire sequence. I mean it was too like almost two wide receiver screens yes to the left side, the left to the side that went nowhere, and then a draw like it was like it was the like listen. I mean, I think Doug Peterson's like a fabulous play caller. I did not like that. I was a very good play caller too. I just think he I think head coach Doug Peterson got inside play caller Doug Peterson's head on that series. That's what I think. I think he

was looking at it. Fourteen seven. The weather isn't good, let's not turn it over. We'll play good. We'll punt the ball here instead of on, particularly on a third down call, and that's how you play and not to lose the sud of the win. So Doug Peterson play caller needed Doug Peterson head coach to stay the hell out of his headset. That's what he needed. Yeah, I don't know. I mean they again it fairness then that there was a slip draw and they've had a ton

of success this year on that play a ton. Now. I would have never run that play at Brandon Graham because Brandon Graham is not a speed rusher at his at thirteen years, you know, repaired to Achillings. I mean, he's more of a power guy. I'm running that. I'm running that plague to Josh Weat who's up the field. I mean Brandon Graham didn't even get up the field at all. They're sitting right there to make the play. Here was the reality. You go look at that play again, Pete.

Imagine Brandon Graham going up the field, because that's what you're counting on it is. It is an easy first down, that's a twenty yard run. There's nobody there, nobody. And so that's where I don't kill Doug as much because they've had a ton of success. And that what I call slip draw what ever um we called the forty one gut where you're throwing the d lineman up field and going up to the the next level. But you have

where I where I didn't like the college. You have to know your personnelit you're going against, and Brandon Brandon Graham is a power rusher. He's not a speed up field guy, and I think it's harder to run that against a guy like Brandon Graham. One quick thing, I know, you gotta go to break JP. But Tony didn't You think he needed a challenge that for a t N got the first down on the fourth, then they fumbled him fourth and one. Why did he challenge that? I

don't know I thought. I mean, I looked at it on the all twenty two and I slow mode it. I mean, maybe his knee goes down earlier than I'm saying maybe, but end of half, we're near the end of half. I'm I'm replaying that for sure. Yeah, that was a mistake on his part. So look, he's he's a good, good coach and a good play caller. He made two mistakes. I don't think they cost him the game, but they were two mistakes. No, they were still in

it in the second half, certainly plenty ahead. We're just getting started on Jaguar's Happy Hour on this Monday afternoon, and we'll hear from the quarterback coming up, Trevor Lawrence. Devin Lloyd spoke today with the media here in Jacksonville. Jamal Agnew as well had a pretty good day at the office on offense, though in a losing effort for the Jaguars. We're live on ten to x l a M, Jaguars dot com and Jaguars Social Media today, Twitter, Facebook,

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I mean, our defense gives to win at the end of the game, and um, I'm just I'm just pissed on let those guys down and really just too many, too many turnovers. Obviously it starts with me home them for me today, So that's you know, no one else to blame there, So, um, let those guys down disappointing. You know, I felt like we had a chance to win that game and we did and you know, same thing in there, So that's that's really frustrating. That's the

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Now we have to look at Tony Baselli. If you're watching on Jaguars dot com, Pete Frisco with us, I'm jpause. He's like coughing up a long or something over there. I was trying to, like, I don't know where to cough from the microphones nearby, and I didn't want it. I was afraid it ain't buttons because last time the video didn't work, so I'm afraid to hit anything again. Lot stuff going on, Pete. And you know what, I wanted to talk about Trevor's comments there, because I mean,

I love number one. He is great. UM. I love that he just owns it. He never's making excuses, never blaming anyone. I think he's a great leader, I really do. UM. But I think what you know, was not has not been talked about enough. I mean it's fourteen to twenty and they're in the red zone, right, Yeah, what I say,

you know usually say that the higher score first. We're trailing four too, I mean I was saying, taggarts first, um, and uh, and he has it's a levels route with Kirk Kirk running it off and you of Agnue in the flat. And I have no idea why he threw that ball. If he throws it to Agnel, he's getting the first down and maybe scoring, he has one guy to beat and it's an easy throat. It's just sitting there in the flat. And I thought that was as bad. I mean that that hurt as much as anything because

you go down to score there. It's it's a different field of the game. And those where did he throw it on that play right here? Yeah? If you if you have an all twenty two, look, I don't know if you look at Agnel, it's a three level route you have I think it's Ingram or jumping Marvin Jones deep and then someone that you have the second level is Kirk, and then after that you have Magnue underneath,

and Agnew is gonna cause some serious problems for them. Yeah, that was the first down bare minimum, Yes, maybe a touchdown and um and and you know this peat when you when you in games like this, if you could there, it just gives the whole game a different field, gives your defense juice, you know, it just changes everything. And then this is what followed right afterwards, is Sanders going for fifty mm hmm. Yeah, and you're right the kid.

I'll give Bradberry credit because he made a really good play on that play because he kind of was he was inside a little bit and then came off of Jones. Yeah, and made the play on that. But but and you could see it's funny because I don't on the all twenty two you can see kind of Marvin Jones his hands going up like what's he doing when he threw it?

Did you see did you notice that? I didn't, But I'll tell you my hands growing up in the up in the booth, and you know, I'm said up thereble looking him like, oh my gosh, where's he throw it to? Then you know he made he made the wrong read. Yeah, and let me ask you this though, on a with a dryer ball and a better condition, does he fire a rocket in there and get it in. I still think it's the wrong read, Pete. Yeah, I do too,

But I'm just asking you. Do you think if he gets if he throws it on a line in the normal conditions, he gets it in there? Because that what that ball seemed like it floated a little bit. Yeah, but I guess my point, Pete, that doesn't matter because you have to understand the situation you're playing in. You have to understand the whether I'm yeah, I know where

I know where the red should go. But I'm just saying, and then I'm asking you that question, if it does in a normal situation, does he hit that pass add it down? Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. But didn't I mean on the twenty two and on TV, and maybe it looked different when you guys were there, But it looked like it floated a little bit. It didn't. That didn't jump. It didn't jump out at me, Pete

watching it live, that it floated. It jumped out of me live and then on the two and maybe you know a little confirmation bias because that's what I saw a live. But I'm just looking at the play to day early this morning. I'm my god, like, just throw it the Agnew and it's you know, it's he might go right back in and get to the touchdown. You're right, I mean it was a bad read, no question, by the way you were mentioning ag Knew. I mean the guy played well stepping in there on offense was a

Jones out two touchdowns. I mean they were easy, schemed up touchdowns for him. So no, I mean I'm not taking anything away from but the one. I love the design of that play where they made it look like he was crossing the formation and he just went back out of you know, that was a great design. So but yeah, I mean they missed a Jones. Let's be real about that. He he helps open stuff up in the middle of the field with his ability to go to the next level. Yeah, his speed. But but Agnew

had a nice corner route too. Um, So I'm more I probably lean more towards U j P that Agnew did a good job. I'm not as negative as Pete. I'm not negative kind of negative, kind of negative. I mean that that's an easy catch. He did have the corner route though, Who was was he the guy that was wide open on the money overshot that Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did a nice double move on that one. So give me more credit, Pete, give me more credit and that and that's a great move right there, cutting it

back inside making the play. Yeah, I mean he played well. I mean, but they missed a Jones, Let's be real, no doubt about it. I don't disagree with that. Um what it does give you though, it gives you. You sit there and you think, okay, now I got another fast guy to throw in there and use a little bit more in different ways. And how about the screen to the left. We let Cam Robinson get out in front of him and pancake the guy. That was a nice heads up play to just let it develop. Waited,

he waited, he was patient. That was Yeah, look at Cam Robinson. I love that. It's a heads up play to let him let it develop, he said to a million times. Knocking over a guy like that, So, I mean, it's not a hard block. No. What I liked Cam as he ran through it, because a lot of times you can sometimes you'd break down, you know, because you're worried about missing the guy. But Cam did a really nice job of just running right through the guy. Okay,

here's a legitimate question for you. Now, would you play agnew Moore and not Marvin Jones? Uh, that's a good question. I mean, he definitely has speed. I think Marvin's a better route runner, a more polished receiver. Um, but I'm definitely and I think they already have I think Doug's already done it. I'm definitely getting him in the rotation of what you know in making sure because I think you can design some interesting things for him. But you know,

you bring up Marvin Jones, that's another story. I mean, you know Trevor was not great, Um, but I don't think you know Marvin had a big drop. Kirk had balls that you'd expect him to catch. Yeah, they were tight and maybe contested, but I'm saying it's catched every one of them. But he did not have a good day either, Like the crossing, the crossing one across the middle and Jones dropped the one on the wide open on this side, like yeah, let it get to his body. Um. Yeah. Yeah.

It wasn't a great day for the passing game at all. And and again I think Drevor was bothered by the wet ball. It didn't look possible with it. I think he was bothered by the wet ball and the wine. I mean, this is but that's okay. I mean it's not like the guy's got big hands. He's you know, he's he's he has all the tools to play bad weather, but he hasn't played in a lot of bad weather games.

And so this is good learning. I mean, hey, you gotta understand the elements are a big deal, especially as you want to play playoff football. Um, you're gonna play in tough situations. And that was a tough situation. I mean, the wind and the rain. Com accommodation of the elements of that game was was not easy. And Jalen Hurston throw the ball great either. It's not like no one did.

That's my point. I mean, but the reason the Eagles one they didn't turn the ball over except for the pick Sex and and they ran the heck out of it. I mean another thing, if if I was in to be critical in the play calling, I thought they got away from the run too much. Let's come back and didn't. Yeah, why did they get away from the run? All right, let's let's come back. We'll we'll keep that real a

little later. Then how about that we're gonna switch that up and get into that and keep it real in the second hour on and follow up on that thought from Tony, but Sally, we're back in a moment though, we'll get into the defensive performance a little bit more. The Eagles ran for two ten yards on the Jags yesterday in the swappy conditions in Philadelphia. Second hour, of course, we'll have, as we said, keeping it real, fanatics, fan questions.

We'll go around the league plenty more ahead. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network, Jacksonville Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans ten ten x hour home of the Jecksonville Jaguars. Defensively, Um, I mean it really just as a whole um, you know, coach staff, players will understand how to you know, improve

basically from this game. You know, there were certain things that we did this game that you know, I feel like in some ways, you know, we made it harder than what it needed to be. And so really just you know, funding a way to clean it out. Stephan Lloyd, Jaguars rookie linebacker, the NFL defensive rookie of the month of September and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour J P. Shadrick with Pete Priscoe and Tony Boselli. Glad you're along

with us today. I gotta ask you something, yes quick, yes, this thing that they're selling here, this they're offering a limited number of tickets for seventy one dollars in the lower Bowl to be part of the Basselly extravagant. What the hell? Why they just give away? What's a number? Pete? It's a good number. I mean, you know, okay, just stop, I got I got something more important. You know, every once, I mean usually you come up with some good ideas

and good comments. That was dumb. That was a dumb one where I think, just sell He's get his ring this week a little bit. But well, speaking of speaking and you're saying dumb things, um um I did. I ran into Peter King at the he was at the Eagles Jags game and he mentioned which I was shocked, um in a good way. He said, Hey, I was listening to you and Pete last week. All right. I told him I apologize. We got a lot of sneaky listeners out there. Yeah, it was good. Um. But back

to the Devin Lloyd. You know, it hit me listening Devon Lloyd, and it's the same thing with Trevor. You know, really any of this team that talks right now is there's been a change. And I don't know if people notice it is this is a team that expects to win. For years, the last couple of years especially, this has been a team happy just to be there and guys just happy to be there. That's the feeling I got a lot of times. It's one of the things that

drove me crazy. The expectations were so damn low. We we didn't expect to win, we didn't expect to be good. Um. And that's changed. I mean, listen to Devin Lloyd there, and you heard Trevor earlier. I mean, and I talked to these guys, you know, when we travel we're on the field and and and the coaches and everything else. The something that one of the things that is going on that it's super positive culturally, is that is that this team expects to go win. They expected to beat

the Eagles. They're disappointed that they lost because they feel like they're a better team. They feel like they should have won. That game and if they play well, they they're they're right, and that's a big you know, that might not feel like a big deal to the fans, and I go, great, who cares what they expected? Damn win? And I get that from a fan's perspective. I'm telling you from a player's perspective and being in the locker room when it shifts to where you expect to win.

Like I go back to the ninth when we went on that run and we kind of didn't even know Atteck what was going on. Then we wanted the playoffs, but from that moment on, we came back like we expected to win, like we were like we thought we were one of the best teams. And and and that happened that transition during that nineties six year where by the

end of the year we got to that point. But coming from you know, you come from the expansion team to the next year, I'm not saying guys didn't want to win, and I'm not saying guys didn't think they can win and I didn't think. I mean, we had some talent to guys like me on Cerci came over, the free agent, came a card out Simmons, We had

guys who had won before. They don't get me wrong, But talking about talking about group as a group, like I always went, I went into every game thinking we could win, and I was gonna, you know, and I had expectations how I was going to play and beat in a play. But I think it's changing now and and for the good. And I give Doug a ton of credit, and I give the players a ton of credit. This isn't a group that just hopes to win. This isn't a group that's just happy to show up and

play well. They expect to win. And that was very obvious in Philly. It was very obvious when they lost in the disappointment and everything else. But they handled losing a lot better than you guys did. You guys were babies when you lost, So come on you going that locker room. There was always a confrontation or two after a loss. Give me a break, Tony Pete. Did I ever ever avoid anything with the media and answering any questions? No, no, but but people, you admit after a loss there was

much more confrontation in the locker room. Well we were a well but I think it's also a different Sara too, Sarah but they were these guys like you listen to devn Lloyd, he doesn't sound like a rookie. No, no, he's a he's a mature he's a mature guy, doesn't sound like a second year quarterback. But then of course they paraded him out every week to make him the

SAC official lamp last week. I wonder how much of that is due to the social media too, because these guys are used to communicating probably much more um now being at SC, I never I never felt like it was a big change from the NFL because then SC or national media and you have l A Times and all the big networks everything out there, um and and for those two guys in particular, like I mean, remember

Trevor was the face of Clemson. They were they went winning national championships every year, and Devin Lloyd the last year or so, it was a big leader on that team. They won the Pac twelve and went to the Rose Bowl. Like he's out there every so that they they've had some experience. But but people, he's a good point. We

were a salty group that very much. He was very salty and and I think a little bit of it is we had a chip on our shoulders constantly like it's us against the world, it was us against Tom, it was us against everybody, like you know what. But it was something one of the things that made that team super close and unique too. It was like we were a scrappy group and you had to be because

that expansion team the way it was built. And yeah, we had some nice pieces of ninety six and throughout the years, but we had there was a chip we had like there it was a salty group. I don't know it even even guys like later on they were like a guy like Kevin Hardy, who's actually he's a really good guy, Kevin Hardy, but even be salty in times. You know, guys were always salty. It was them st Don't you think that pete that comes from don't you

think that comes from the head coach? Like because Tom sets the culture and we kind of followed his like he was the saltiest of all saltyes. Oh yeah, and so like we see our head coach a salty like that is how we roll. Like but this team, this this group, and we've we've like the two thousand seventeen group was salty. They were pains in the assides in their own way. A bunch of those guys were or fifteen and sixteen, there were a lot of them. But

this group doesn't. And some of this has to do with the fact that COVID they haven't dealt with it, like constantly they've been bad, so they haven't had a chance to be good and start losing tough games, you know what I mean, Tony, Like that's when you really get the salty nous and they'll they'll they'll get salty the better they get, more salty they'll get because when you lose. And you can sense a little bit Trevor and Devin Lloyd here, because when you lose, it's painful.

And Doug said something really interesting. He said, you need to get to the point where winning hurts more than when I mean, I'm sorry, losing hurts more than winning feels good. And that's that's a pretty true statement. I mean, I think bad. You know, there was nothing like winning was great. It was fun um but at least with Tom you knew you're gonna get your ask kicked the next day no matter what win or lose. And uh,

but losing was miserable. Like you have you have to you want to get to the point where the team just hates to lose, like you would rather die. You'll do anything to win a football game because you don't want to lose. Um. And so I thought that was an interesting comment by Doug. By the way, real quick, how was his They seemed like they were welcomed him with open arms up there standing ovation. Yeah, that's great,

that's great. Even even the evil Eagle fans can be nice and sometimes huh yeah, right, all right, let's come back. We've got plenty ahead. At one other point on that too, by the way, that the like the third year players this year had never seen media in the locker room before in the NFL. Remember that twenty COVID year. That's crazy. Last year, most of most of them will have think

about the life expectancy of an NFL player. Most of them will have more year is without people in the locker room than they will when they open up the locker room. Like the second and third your guys like, what are you guys doing in here? What are we doing? This is the sound's supposed to work. So just a different environment. Now we'll come back. A f C South will review what happened in the division yesterday. Busy couple of weeks for the Jaguars in the division coming up,

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I'm gonna start running. So and I've seen Cam pancake came and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna just following him, so I just kept going. Credit to Cam. Cam is probably one of the most athletic tackles in the game right now. Um, you know, we do a lot of things to get him in space, lead block and stuff like that, so um, it's just fun watching He've been doing that all year till he did at the forty

four on the Colts too. Completely pancake m that's Jamal agg Dou Jaguars Wide Receiver and Returned Specialists on the Wide Receiver screenplay where you let Cam Robinson get out in front and do the rest, and a nice skinner there for them on a second and five play and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco and Tony Biselli and we take a live look

outside t i A bank field. If you're watching on Jaguars dot Com and Jack's social media, or if you're driving by on the Expressway, you can see the new Miller Electric Center underway. The construction continues the indoor facility. The roof of it looks to be about half built, well the at least the the beams of the roof. The roof hasn't been put on yet. A lot of the building, yeah, it's it's moving along pretty well. And they're starting the grand stand area on the side of

the fields. And here we go. It's supposed to be open and ready for training camp of twenty three, and we're looking forward to getting into that building for sure. Moving ahead. Um, all right, so let's look around the a f C South and take a look at the division standings after yesterday's action. Well, the Jaguars are still in first place two and two. They're tied with tennessee it. The Jaguars have the better conference record at two and we're not going to start doing that in week four.

I'm just telling you those stats, Pete, that the stats don't line. The Jaguars are in first place technically right now. Yesterday, the Chargers beat the Texans thirty four to twenty four. The Titans over the Colts seventeen. Titans built a big lead early, including the second touchdown pass of the game from Ryan Tannehill. Mike Keith and Dave McGinnis on Titans Radio. Tannehill looking throwing completing scoring chig a cock Quod Titans

Ryan Tannehill. What a fat move. He looked his whole defense off to the right and gave a con chance to sit and then ran what we call a little stain rail That made it three. It was seventeen. So um pete. Do you agree with the standings in your in your rankings of this division? What do you feel like right now? I put the Titans at number one? Really well, we can't hear we can't hear Tony. We can't hear Tony, which time might not be a bad thing either. Oh sorry, you crazy. Put the Titans at one,

the Jaguars at two. Jags won. Just how the standings up Jags one stands uh, Titans two, Colds three, Texans four. You can make a case for either team. I just put the Titans ahead of them. I think the Titans have right because because you're a Jag, have righted things. They scored zero points in the second half. I think right anything they put it, by the way, they played a Colds team, but we shut out at home again. They're gonna do it again. They're gonna do it again.

And when they go up there in two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, yeah, I mean I'll be honest with you, John, and the Taylor hasn't been able to do anything. He had forty two yards and twenty carries and he's dinged up there. I mean, the Colts aren't good right now. I'm not gonna say they are, but it's between the time. You know, Tony knows that the Titans have that toughness about them that shows up. Rabel gets them to play.

They bounced back, they get blown out of Buffalo, they bounced about beat the Raiders and go on the road and win a division game. That that's just a sign of a tough, physical, nasty team. You know it, you would take No. I think I have a ton of respect for the Titans, but they're not better than the Jacks. Well,

Jacks played the worst. They played the worst possible game against the only undefeated team in the NFL on the road in their place, and they still should have won the game that had a chance to win it over the time, I mean, they have five turnovers. Most of the time you have five turnovers, you're getting beat like Tennessee did against Buffalo. So no, I'm sorry, are they still a top ten team? The Jaguars? Yeah? Uh wow? In the league? Then be right on the edge. Okay,

here's another one for you. Is the game still getting flexed when they go to Kansas City? I like that if we win the next if we win the next five, yes, you're locking that. Are locking the next five? No, I don't know. It's too far ahead to lock. Well, I mean all right, so this week is you made a statement, so if they win the next five, so let's see if you will lock it. Let's commence him a lock. Go ahead, we go this week. There's a big difference

between if and yet ahead. You got to hear the schedule first before you can say no. The home against the Texans this week in the seventy one game. You might have heard of that. At the at the Colts. I'll lock that one too. By the way, there's the double lock. It's never been beat home against the Giants Week seven, the win that one test, three in a row apparently. And then London against Denver, the home away

from home for the Jags. I can beat the heck out of I've beat the heck out of them, Like, yeah, I think they'll win that one too. You're both four and oh in this run right now. And then home against the Raiders early time game for the Raiders. They should win the five in a row. Wow, okay, five in a row, and then at Kansas City week ten, here we go, flexus say good night, stay good night. That's where it ends. That's where it ends. That's the end. I don't know. I don't know if I don't think

Kansas City is quite as good they once were. Okay, so we basically we think they have a real chance to win the next five, but the reality is they probably you won't win all five. No, probably not, but they It would not surprise me if there they were seven and two. It wouldn't surprise you if they want all five. So you think a bare minimum they should be six and three. Yes, agreed? Wow, mhmm. That means they're gonna go past our win total for the year,

like after the first part of the season. Yeah, that means thanks. I said seven to nine, you said six. Yes, you're your mind to Jeopardy, Big Jeopardy. Since you got him already got him in the playoffs and everything. I didn't put the point. Well, okay, they win the next five, would you think they can do and maybe have a

legitimate shot to do. They're gonna be in the postseason if they have If they do that, if they get the six and three, you think, think so, But I really were seven and two, seven and two going be hard not to, wouldn't it? Um? Because I still have another game with Houston, they'd still have who else is on that schedule. I'm trying to think at the Lions at the Lions, like lines, is not gonna be an easy game. They can't stop anybody points in any team

in history of the league. They got the Titans twice, Titans twice. Go ahead, I'll say this, keep going, hold on, hold on. This division is gonna come down to the two Titans games. Of course, I would agree with you, who go ahead, Keep going, JP, Let's see the other games on that After the bye week, then it's Thanksgiving week, the Jaguars host the Ravens, and then the Jags are at the Lions, and then the Jaguars are at the Titans in Nashville, where they haven't one and forever home

against the Dallas Cowboys. December at the Jets at the Texans home against the tight That schedule gets brutal for them, and a lot of road games. Four out of the last what six. Yeah, that's unless they improve dramatically. That's gonna be best case scenario. They win two of those, and you gotta keep this team healthy too. What are you talking about? Who? All right, you're gonna beat the Ravens at home. The Ravens weren't so hot again past week.

They play Buffalo, Okay, so Buffalo, Okay, they're gonna beat the You think they'll beat the Cowboys at home? I think they can, Yeah, I think that. I think the Cowbras are limited offensively, well, Dak Prescott will be back by then. Even with Dac, I think they're limited. Right, So you you haven't winning every game? Forget about this. We're not even gonna do this JP. It's done. He's got him win every damn game. There isn't one game where you say they're not winning, not one. I haven't

that anything about the Chiefs. Uh so they're gonna win all but one. So okay, put him in there. The number one seed you got a week off, could happen? Could happen? What would they be? They be fourteen and three based on your analysis because you got him losing to the Chiefs and winning against everybody else. Well, you know, they're not winning in Tennessee. They haven't won there since SELLI played I this is the year. They think, this

is the year they break the Tennessee curse. Yeah, the last win up there was the Will Blackman sack, forced fumble, fumble return touchdown game. It's been a long time. It was like, and if you even go go if that game, But you're going to pass that one. There was a bunch of other ones in Tennessee that was It's just been a house of horrors for them. It has not been a good place for us to go play. Oh, even when you were the better team, it was never a good place for you to play. Never m hmm.

It's time to change that, but we've got weeks before we can go change. Hey, that'll do it for our first time. Hold on JP when we come back in the second hour. One thing I want to talk about that we missed Um so far. The FOCI injury impacted him in this game, and if he is out, they have major depth issues up front. Got Gotses and Robinson Harris had to play bunch of snaps last week. We will get to that when we return in the second

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Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, we talked about it all the time. It's just we've just got to focus on us, right and um, anytime you'd you know, making mistakes. We did turn the ball over like the game, it's just and where we turned the ball over. You know, you you're not gonna keep good teams out of the end zone. And um, that's really

the difference in the football game. You know, I'm proud of our guys for you know, they fought there to the end, gave us a chance to at least see what was going to happen there, you know, at the end of the game. But um, it's just the turnovers and and mental airors that really cost us. To say. Let's head coach Doug Peterson after the game in Philadelphia yesterday and welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, Prisco and Tony Boselli

coming up. I'm j P. Shadrick and in a battle of first place teams, the Philadelphia Eagles improved to four and oh with over the Jaguars. They fell to two into The Jaguars suffered five giveaways on offense, including an interception in the red zone and four fumbles from Trevor Lawrence, two of them on sack forced fumbles, two of them on misshandle's in sloppy conditions in Philly, the number one run defense in the NFL going in for the Jags,

gave up two rushing yards to the Eagles. The Jack's built of fourteen nothing lead and then gave up twenty points in the second quarter on three straight Eagles drives and gave up that lead going into the locker room. All that aside is Peterson just said the Jacks had the ball in their hands down eight inside two minutes to go with an opportunity to tie the game, and despite what Pete thinks about it, the Jaguars are still in first place with a better conference record than the Titans.

Up next two straight divisional games, this week at home against the Texans, next week a road trip to face the Both games have been locked by Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli. Tonight. That about covers it, I think, right, Pete. Well, Pete, did you lost the indie game too or just no? I didn't. I just locked the Texas game. Excuse me? The Texas game has been locked, Yes, the only Texans. I didn't lock the indie game. I think they're gonna win the indie game. But let me get through one

game at a time. The game. What are you talking about, Pete? I only focus on one game. Here we go. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying to get to one another this week. That's all I'm trying to do. Oh God, I want to go back to what we ended the last hour with. You know, we have some new listeners, but hang in there with us um the Fatakasi injury. I don't think he's been talked about enough one He's one of their best defensive linemen. Now, Robertson Harris has been playing as

well as anybody, so he's right there. When he went out with the quad injury and did not return, that makes them very thin. And if he's out for an extended period of time, they got some issues. They're already not very big up there. So they're starting three are Vodkasi, Hamilton's nose and Robertson Harris at the other end, all

big powerful men. The backups for them. They have no backup nose is Adam Gots This good player, but not a big man as far as I mean, he's a big man to every you know, he's not a big defensive lineman right right, very good player, nothing against him. Dwant Smoot who is a hybrid he's more of an outside, not a big man. And arden Key who is a defensive end right he's slender like they have that They

put a big guy during camp though, didn't they? They did, But my point is they got they started getting pushed around. I mean Robertson Harris played that it felt like every staff because they couldn't get him off the field. Did he did Did he get a hand to the face penalty? Yes? And he did. And by the way, he does it a lot. If you watch the tape, his hands are always up near to the helm. And he got away

with one to landing landing. Dickerson was complaining about it on another one, and I went back and looked at it. His hands were up there. He gets his hands up high. Yeah. But to your point, Tony Rod Robertson Harris played sixties six of the eight two snaps on deep too many. That's a ton What did Hamilton's played. Hamilton's played fifty snaps, so sixty that's still I mean they played a lot of snaps. And then how about got because he played

the whole side half fifty eight snaps. See, that's too Like they don't have a debt. Did they update Facsi's injury. Yeah, it's still a quat. They're just kind of waiting to see on it. Nothing nothing definitive today. Well, if he can't go, Tony, they got to find a big guy to go put in there. That's my point. I mean they they they can't say. I don't think they can stay status quo. Would the Dominican sue help, here's a big body. I mean, you're not I'm just looking for

somebody's not gonna get pushed around. He's not playing, So would they want to pay what he's wanting to get? I mean, do you know what that is? I mean, it's a minimum. That a minimum, I would think with incentive. The question is that you want to play? The real question? And what's he looked like? Yeah, one of two ways? You know, how lineman do they either go one or two ways? Either he's tiny or he's gotten big. But that I mean, we talked about this in the preseason.

P I thought this would become an issue. I thought they were too thin with big guys. I don't think. I didn't think they're big enough, especially in the a f C style where you got people who want to run the ball at it and the Eagles wanted to run the ball at it. Now, the Eagles was a different They spread you out, but they spread you out and they were physical. Jason Kelsey is the best centers. Unbelievable. I sent out some clips of him today on Twitter.

It's just the way he gets on that double team and gets off and gets to the second level. It's it's fantastic. And and you would think with a power player on him, because he's not a big guy that you'd be able to take advantage of him. But he's so good at the angles and twisting his body and moving you and taking you where you're going and then getting off of you and getting and move I mean, it's it's a clinic watching him play center as a clinic. Yeah, he's just good. I mean, he's as good as I've

seen for a while. But that's something the monitor, I mean, how they handle depending on the severity of podocasts injury. He's good. I mean, I didn't think they were deep enough coming into this season, and now they're even lessy with on the injury report. That's a hard team to prepare for to run game. Their run game very much so and and and you could see at times where they were hesitant. I I thought the linebacker was very apt. You're being kind, You're being kind. I thought lu Khan

had played really well the week before. I didn't think he played well at all of this game. He was really hesitant. And Lloyd was a tick slow, almost like Game one. And then the lack of pass rush rushing four is an issue. Um. Now, I don't want to be too critical because I don't know if they were being told to kind of mush rush to take away the run because they were going Now Trademont Walkers had an issue all year where he just goes right down

the middle of offensive linement. He was getting beat up pretty good by Lane Johnson yesterday. Now Lane Johnsons as good as right tackle. You gotta make him working late. Right, he was going right at him every time. He just run right into him. And I was, and even Josh he was when he had the backup tackle. He was doing a lot of bull a lot of bull rush. So I don't know if you'd there being told kind of power rush him in the pocket. Um. Now Josh

Allen was getting some fush. He took the right in the back of tackle back into the lap hurts a couple of times and caused that one sack that he got. Um, yeah, they didn't. They don't. They need to get better pressure with four else you're gonna exposure corners. By the way, I we were critical on here last week at Darius Williams. I thought he had his best game yesterday. He had

the ball that caused the interception. It was just it was just much more active in coverage and he looked like maybe that summer really of not practice and really impacted him, because he looked like getting back to where he was. At least that was a great That was a great play on that. Hey. By the way, Jaguars do have just one defensive tackle on the practice squad, Nick Thurman, who you know. I think he's three five pounds or something. But so that's not a big guy either.

You need. I mean it's a big guy you need. They need a big our guy in there. You know, Tony Sue would be if he's in shape, he would I'd make the call to him, wouldn't you. Even even even if Fotakasi comes back, they need another one. I do think they need more death. There's no doubt about that. I mean no doubt about it. If too bad Malcolm Brown didn't work out, m yeah, that would be good. Did he not want to play this year? It seems like he didn't want to play. He did not have

a great camp, let's put that way. They also have Israel Entwine, but he's in the two nineties or so on the defensive line and on the practice squad. So yeah, something to watch on the defensive side of the ball, for sure. Um, you know, so two ten rushing yards. Yeah, but you know, and I'm gonna I cautioned about this last week. You remember I referenced the Saints game last year. The Saints were the number one run defense in the league last year and went to Philly and gave up

over two hundred yards on the ground. Same type of situation. It's different when you're in season preparing for these guys because they do it so different. It makes everybody, particularly linebackers, they gotta hesitate. Just you can't just go flying around. It's a different style. It's hard to play, and it's hard to prepare for when you're on When you're on a in season, you know, if you're preparing for him

in week one, it's different. If you're preparing for him in the postseason when you have a little break, that's different. But when you're in season and you're in the grind and you're used to play in one style and all of a sudden, here comes this different style. It's hard to prepare for. Yeah, but not hard enough where you give well. I mean it happened to the best run defensive the league last year too, I mean they did, yet, what was it fifty something on the one pop, isn't

that what it was? They actually did a decent job on Hurts keeping him contained. Yeah, well that's fine. But if if Miles Sanders is rushing for a thousand yards, who cares? I mean, they didn't play well. The linebackers didn't play well, period, don't I don't think if he isn't an amazing though. You look at the statue, you'd say, oh my gosh, he had sixteen and he had fourteen. Well that's why. And this is nothing against uh lu Khan when everyone said last year, oh we signed a

little con. He's the he had the most tackles in the NFL last year, Mike, who cares? He's on the worst He was on the worst defense in the NFL too. I mean, so who else is making tackles for the Falcons last year? But up until up until this week he had played pretty well though for the jar Wars. That's why I know. But he didn't say well, he didn't play well Sunday. He was, he was up. You didn play good football Sunday. My whole point was just saying,

you know, someone had the most tackles. That does not translate always that they played well, correct, let's come back in a moment. We're gonna keep it real. We're gonna get into the offense and the as Tony brought up earlier, some maybe getting away from the run or did they We'll get into that. We're gonna keep it real. That's the whole idea of the segment and Jaguars Game Day Radio is brought to you by a Vice Star Credit Union, Do Good, Bank Better. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on

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it real. Presented by a Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line by Robert Mundavi. Well, Tony, earlier in the show, you said they might have got away from the run in this game a little bit. Doug Peterson might say, Hey, you know they were behind the chains a bit. They missed some open plays, they had some drops. Um. Did they get away from the run too early for you, Tony Well?

I I guess early in that success they were running a first down and they were getting four or five yards pop, and they were getting ahead of the chains, um, and it felt like there was a couple of series out there and I don't have them. And maybe it was more of the field of it um in the fact that we were on the field very much, because they were controlling the clock with the run game and

sort of Dougs defense. We had limited opportunities. Um, but it felt like there was some opportunity, Like I'll go back to the the series that he brought up, you know, to back back wide receiver screens one drop, one four let thrown um and then a draw and so there's just a couple of times. And then coming out of the second half, that first drive, I remember what was the first drive of the second half, to be I want to make sure it's the right idea that the

first driven here we go. Yes, it was the let's see third quarter, Eagles had the ball first, Jaguars get it first and ten, Lawrence sacked for no yards. Second and ten Lawrence in complete short middle to Kirk. Third down in ten incomplete short middle to ag Knew and then a punt of sixty one yards. Yeah, so now it dougs defense. The first down naked bootleg that Trevor took a sack. What he shouldn't have He should thrown it away or run the ball or actually really what

he should have done. It is Christian Kirk, which is the second level player on the crossing rid is wide open. Just throw the ball to him. This is it means wide open. And so that's I mean Doug's right, that's a missed opportunity for the you know, pass it again nothing Now you're a third and long and you know, there wasn't a lot of success doing that yesterday as well.

So maybe it was more of the feeling it had because earlier I thought they did have some nice runs from first down to set up to get ahead of the chains. Now did James Robinson carry much after he fumbled? No? One acculate had one carry one or two carriers? Yeah? What what was that all about? Was that a was that a punishment of sorts? I mean what what? Why

did he? I mean that was I mean carrious to James had on the day total on the day James Robinson, let me flip back real quick, he didn't have he had eighty and so up until after the fumble did he have any maybe one? I know he had one for sure. Like to me, that was the that was the type of game with that weather and everything where you get to Yeah, that's more my comment than it felt like it was a day to run the ball and they didn't do it enough. Yeah, I think he

got pen allies for the fumble. I thought that left the building last year, well, I'm not gonna I think that's unfair to Pete to say, because we don't know that, why didn't he get any more carries? Then? Well, if you look at how many total places that they have an offense, and they didn't have very many plays, so hey, by the Pete, to your point, the fifth carry of the day for him was the fumble. We had three

more carries. One on the next play after that. He carried it the next play for minus one, so that means he carried it from minus one, So I means he had six. I mean he had two more carries the rest of the game in any series on the field, in a game that was relatively tight, that doesn't make any sense. But how many players did they have total JP in the game? Stand by, stand by, flipping back, flipping back, But yeah, that's it seems like he was punished. Well,

he's punished, Pete. You take him out of to the fumble. They only had forty six plays in the game. That's my point, Pete, only forty six places? Did he get dinged? No, I don't think so. I remember the Eagles held the ball for thirty nine minutes in the game, almost forty I actually think it was less about James getting fumbling. There wasn't that many plays after that, Ye have the ball, Yeah, didn't have the ball. They would first play fumbles or

you know whatever happened. Anytime you go three and out to open the second half, you're not gonna and then they get the ball. You're not gonna get the ball from for a lot of the time. Yeah. Yeah, So there you go. Um that's the story on that one. So all right, let's put this out there. Though. They need to run the ball better, better, better, and more, but better more than more. Right, But again I'm the one who said it felt like they got away from

the run. But when you when I put it, you know, maybe I jumped the conclusion the board of that a little quick. You only plays, you had five turnal that's five possessions you lost. Yeah, it was not It was not a well played game. Let's put that by the offensive in any way, shape or form. There's Is there any other than Agnew? Is there anybody sit there and say they were really really good on that offense. I'd love to know how Cam Robinson grated out. I thought

he played pretty well. He wants he wants to know grades now, Pete, how about I will tell I will tell him. He's calling for him now this way. Do you think he had a good grade? I I mean I think I think he'd be the highest rated offensive lineman. Sheriff was the highest rated offensive lineman. Cam was second. They're close. Cam was the highest rated pass protecting offense. I thought, I thought Cam did a good job. Who was the lowest rated offensive lineman. It's either partner or

um on the right tackle. Jowan was the lowest rated pass protector and Fortner was the second lowest. Yeah, so the actually the offensive line. Bart got a decent grade and pass protection and overall his grade wasn't bad. He's got each four each of the four games he's gone up. I thought Barts played pretty well. Fortner got just abused by Jordan Davis on that one play. So there you haven't keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.

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So yeah, it's really really frustrating, disappointing, um, but we gotta have a short memory, just like we do when we win, you know, when we play well, the same thing when we don't play well, when when I don't play well, when we when we lose the game, whatever it is. You know, twenty four hour rule. We gotta watch this tapelene from it and move on to the to the Texans next week. You have at the quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. The twenty four hour rule has come and gone.

It's on to Houston. Well not quite yet. For those on social media, this is Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Basselli and let's go to social media the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans are gearing up and saving big at fanatics dot com. Shop today and rep your jack gear on game day and every day. Fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything you know. Hey, hey j P.

Before you started asking this first question. You know, Pete, we didn't have the twenty four hour rule, and I played. Tom would be mad all week and bring up stuff around let it go, let it go. He wouldn't stop. Never. Oh well, if we won, if we want it was rule. Actually, if we wanted was like a like whatever time you woke up in the morning, it was over because film was starting and he was getting getting after us. And

then um, if we lost the boy. He never had the twenty four hour rule with me because if you guys did something poorly on Sunday, I made a big deal of it on Wednesday and Thursday and Friday. Yeah, it's probably your fault, Pete, because you just get worn out all week. Way to go, Pete. Al Right, here we go. Question number one. We put out the cat signal earlier. Here's the best we came up with at John Cree. Is it concerning all that we've lost twice

this year? When Doug abandoned the run it was raining sideways and Trevor was struggling. Jay Rob was the hero we deserved and the one we needed. Well, we just talked about that a little bit, Uh didn't It wasn't statistically what you thought they didn't have a lot of plays. Yeah, I mean I think it's it's a combination of what we said. In fairness to the fan who just asked the question. I felt that way at times too, I

really did. If you step back and look at the fact the only at forty six plays plus five turnovers, it's five lost possessions and at the end they had to play hurry up the last you know, last drive, trying to get back in the game. Um, if it makes the more sense, it really does. I could take issues with a drive here or there. I would like to see a little bit more run in there, but I don't think it was a situation where they just gave up on it completely, all right. Next question from

at Nolan Muhammad twelve. Do you think that Jaguars can make the playoffs through a wild card birth without winning the division or are there better teams in the a f C. Pete, Let's start with you. Well, I think some of those better teams are coming back to the pack. I mean a lot of people thought the Raiders and Broncos, one of those two teams would be in the mix, and neither one of them has played very well. Um. You know, you look at the A A f C. North,

Cleveland's not playing very well. Pittsburgh isn't any good. Um, So there's questions in that division as well that we didn't see coming. And then you go to the East. Buffalo is gonna be there. But now with the Miami situation with TA is there going to be a second team? So they could make it as a wild card if they could, if they win games. Um, but Tony thinks to winning the division and and maybe even getting a one seed, So I don't think that's an issue for them. Well,

I didn't say that, Pete. I said the division. The division will come down to the two games, the Jags playing the Kinants in December. That's my opinion. Obviously, there's a lot of things that can happen between now and then. It's still does a loser get the wild card? With that extra wild card, I think there's a chance. I mean, say, tied the Chargers and there's no other teams with the

same record, they would get that one. Well, the good thing is they're gonna play the Charges and the Broncos and the Raiders, So if they can beat those three, if they can beat the Broncos, in the in the in the Raiders. Now they have the head head, so you almost eliminate that group and that you get them, we'll get one at home and one in London, so that's a big advantage. Now you beat the toughest one on the road, and if you can beat Baltimore and kind of take them out of the equation of the

head dead. So like you just gotta beat the right people, beat to your point because it could come down the time markers. You know. It's even better about this is like about fifteen minutes ago, he said, one game at a time, one week at a time. It all depends what had I if I have my player, coach had on it. One at the time, by media media had on It's a free for all. We always bring you back in. It's like you we drew him right back in JP easy like fishing and barrel up next at

t Douval. What resulted in such a step back from our old line, Tony? Do you do you did you see that? I didn't see that. I mean that's a really good defensive front. I mean who had nine sacks and like sixteen pressures against the Commanders the week before. I didn't see like there was one. Juwan Taylor has a step back. He had a bad game, and really, if you look at it, it's two snaps. Like even on the run game, he didn't get out a couple of times. I don't know there were he that was

not his That was by far his worst game. That was his worst game. I agree with that, but I did not think the offensive line was a major and ship, No, it was not. Next question at Carnival, Thomas, do you think this locks is going to be a big story line later when the Jags played the Eagles as a rudge match in the Super Bowl. Oh, that'd be great. Oh my gosh, he is this a Baselli family member? If they got the whole family brain washed? Hut Tony the Eagles, Pete, the Eagles don't want us on a

neutral field. They don't want us in a neutral factory seeing them and their four No, the last undefeated team. Are they going to a Super Bowl? Yes? Oh, I don't know. They're gonna be on both lines, that's important. Yeah. I think they're they're gonna be good. Uh throughout the year. I mean, injuries obviously can change everything. Let's assume no major injuries. Um and I think they're gonna be in

the playoffs and they're gonna win the East. They're the best team of the will being in the playoffs, are gonna have at least one home playoff game. They're the best team bality in the NFC. That's my whole point. So yes, they're Super Bowl contended. The Super Bowl is in Arizona this year for the record long trip, long trip for the Jaguar fans, long trip for the ether fans too. I think I think that I think they'll make it. Yeah, they might show up at fit jag Chicks.

No moral victories, so does us. Only losing by eight to arguably the best team in the NFL speak to how good we are or how bad they played? Hard to say, because of the conditions. The conditions. Look, I hate weather in football. I'm I've always been that way. I think it, and I think eventually we're gonna get to the point where every team has the facility where they just closed the roof because I hate conditions in football. What are you talking about? The collaboratory? What are we doing?

It becomes the survival test at the football game. I love I love it because it testamental toughness, come on my test. It becomes a slop fest and it's not fun to watch. It looked like guys a lot of times. It looks like guys were having trouble their footing is they couldn't even move? Then why why I have a coin toss? Then why are you gonna pick a side of the field anymore? On for the wind and all

this stuff? Like what he? Who cares? Then? Like, just play it in the lab, just play it on Madden and don't don't have a season where it's not a certain conditions are just turned it into a slop fest. That was a slop fest. I disagree with well, I agree it was a slot fest, but I agree that's part of the game to like keep it. What does you have to be just because it's always it doesn't have to be Yeah, yes it does. Yeah, that's dumb. That's not dumb. It is dumb, Yes it is. Yes,

you're you're dumb. You're dumb. No, I'm smart. It's a slop fest. It was really dumb. Uh At CF Zeller's for two important division games coming up next and two more winnable games after that, what do you predict choose for the next four games with them four, No, going to six and two into November. We've already gone through this and they're already the cool eight. Tony. You must have handed that out already. I mean, my gosh, everybody's on that badma. I don't even see Tony on Twitter today.

He must have infiltrated. Hey look, I'm gonna I'm gonna guarantee. I already guarantee I locked Sunday. So they're getting the three and two. So we got that going for him. But slow the role a little bit people, Okay, Pete, Well then how about this. You always asked me, go over the next six games, you tell me what they records. I don't know which one they're gonna lose, but that this this team isn't built to go on a five games winning streak. It's just not. So. They're gonna be

six and three going into Kansas City. Then you're saying so then six and four, No, said how many are they gonna lose over the next might lose two? They could lose two of those games. Do you think they'll be They'll be at least five and four? Correct, I'll give you that. You're not giving me anything. I'm Okay, say five and four. You say seven and two. I didn't say that. I said, I said, you said they all five? I said they could. Yes, they can technically

win the next twelve games, right, correct? What if it rains and it's a sloppy field? I mean, my god, they played five? Idiot? What's five plus twelve seventeen? Do the math? What's their record? Three? Two? I was told there would be no math today. Oh my god, this is the best moment in the history of the show. Right now. He was played five. Unreal? Oh my god? Where you been? Wow? All right, what did you think the record was? I thought they put five games. I

thought they were three and two. By the way, I have one last question after this for everybody, for Tony when when we're done. Okay, we've got one more social media question one Pete As This is from Att duval Gator. Pete, as a reporter in the locker room, what would have been your first question to Trevor after his five turnovers? Tony as a teammate and leader, what advice would you have given him after such a rough day? Pete, let's start with you. Did you drop anything when you were

getting dressed? I mean that's how you lighten the mood up a little bit. Come on, that's funny. And then you then you get serious with him and you tell I mean, and you sit and you talk to him, you say what happened, and you say, hey, look, just like I said before, I would have told him it would have been a lot worse. If you do four an reception to somebody's stomach, that's what that's how you get.

Then you get good answers that way. Come on, that would have been fun, don't you know how I operated. I would have lightened the mood up a little bit then and asked the questions. Yeah, I don't think it would have been well received, Like several times, you trying to lighten up the mood and locker wasn't always well received. Um I think, I mean my comments it's not all on you. We gotta do better job protecting UM, don't worry about it. Let's you know, we'll be all right.

That's I mean. Something along those lines would have been my comment. Then hey, what did you? And my question to you is, and JP, you can take that the answer to this? What was more? What was more? The turnovers for Trevor Lawrence in that game or the amount of cheese steaks, but silly ate when he was in Philadelphia, I only had one. I only had one cheesepeake at the airport because I didn't fly home with the team. I flew to San Francisco last night, so I had

one cheese take at the airport. But like not the night before or not not not in the present because I know in the press box they bring him up in the press box too, they had no cheese steaks in the press box. They did. I didn't have to. Uh. I had to hum pretzels, two pretzels right right now because the over under was four and a half on that and so he went way under. Would you have taken the under? I probably would have gone over four and a half. Well that's the two we eight in

the press box. What about the two he put his bag for the flight to San Francisco did not happen, by the way, One last thing, I want to give kudos to one of our listeners last week played I Spy and actually detective work was great and he found out how much Baselli steak cost in Los Angeles. Did you see that tweet? Talk did not? Oh yeah, oh yeah? He took a picture of the menu. Ninety eight bucks for your steak. Yes, he took a picture of it.

It was he He wrong at your it was more. Oh, well, you must have got some mixtures stuff on the top of it, because it's said on there. And you had a what kind of smeat was that? The wagu it's Bucks on the menu. You had an old one. It was a there goes our Christmas bonus. I guess thanks, Tony, appreciate that. We're just eating crumbs over here. That's fine. I'll say this. I wasn't the only one who ordered it. I'm not going to name. I'm not naming names. Jeff

Logerman and there's others. I was not among those. But whatever, it's fine. We're back in a moment and we'll go around the NFL. That's the fanatics fan questions. Thank you for all the submissions. We appreciate it. Jaguars falling Week four one to the Eagles, and this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL, home of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

We're back. Maybe it's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli, glad you're with us on this Monday after Jack's loss one. Jacks are now two and two, but still in first place in the a f C South. What, Pete, I just can't believe the price of that steak. It made my day. Well, yeah, Tony's right, he wasn't the only one, the only one. The question is this, would

you have gone into your own pocket and bought that steak? Yes? Absolutely, so you would go back there and you would take Angie on a on a visit to California and you go into that restaurant and you would you would have that exact same steak at your So, Pete, I'll give me a for example that you know that the nine five for steakhouse in the bottom of and and then and uh in the w Yeah. Here in Fort Lauderdale

they have a Ribby Cap Wagon Ribby Cap. That the worth of that and the two times I've been there, that's what my wife was ordered for dinner. That's the that's the one that has the all the the uh what do you call it? The jellyfish in the in the wall. Yeah, it's a great it's a great steakhouse. Um. But yeah, so listen, I I will never go out on someone else's dime or anything from Biden to a

dinner and order stuff I wouldn't pay for myself. Again, you used to drive me crazy, like in the rookie dinners, you know, when you do those rookie dinners. Certain I'm not gonna say that a certain guys who go in order just a bunch of stuff just to run up the bill on the rookie That always bothered me because order is something you're really gonna eat. Yeah, Like I know, because if I'm gonna go out, I like, listen, I've been very blessed by God as far as to be

able to afford good food. And I like good food a lot, and I like steak and so I will never buy something, um that I wouldn't be willing to pay for if if someone else is buying dinner. Okay, And one last thing, okay from the game. You flew to San Francisco, right, but you stopped to get a cheese steak on the way to the airport or you got it in the air there was a there was a there's like gyms or whatever ms in the airport Tony Tony Luke's or or gyms or one of them.

You did not bring that on the plane though. No, I I got there. It was beautiful that I got a ride by a Philadelphia State trooper from the airport. I mean from the game to the airport. I was there, like in five minutes. You wasn't to jacket on. You had your jacket on. There were the gold jacket free autograph. I mean, if you're getting those kind of escorts, you had to have the jacket with you. No. I gotta give a big shout at the Skip who runs security

for the Jags, since that's awesome since day one. He picked me up the airport when I came there as a rookie. Uh, you can help me get ride because I had to fly out. I couldn't find back on the team. So he was very helpful. Hey, let's go around the National Football League and get to some of these games. The Bengals over the Dolphins on Thursday, and of course the TOA situation advanced rapidly after that game. Pete, Well, what's the latest there? Well, I mean, look, he's not

playing and he shouldn't play. And Tony, you were at that game, weren't you. Yes, when you look at that, didn't you know right away? I mean even the week before it was a concussion. Well, so when it first happened, the angle we had, and you know, when you're covering the game live, you kind of look at the replay, the focus was on his fingers. I thought he dislicated his finger or something like, oh, did he get his

finger jammed in the turf? And then we went right to break and if we're going to break, then they showed the other angle. You can see his head just well, that's that's that happens when guys. That's exactly that's exactly right. But I didn't see his It was hard to see his head hit. I thought his shoulder hit. I didn't know his head hit. I thought he got slammed on

his shoulder. And I thought his finger went into the turf from the angle first angle, but the second angle was clear was his head, And right then is when I knew it was the second concussion. Is way is usually way worse from what I And that's the concern. None of them are good. Do you think he plays again this year? Yes? How soon? Because you're not playing this week. I don't know I'm not a doctor. Okay, okay, you sound like a coach. Now. No. My point is

I have no idea. I mean and missed this week and play the following week. It all depends on You're the only guy in the history that You're the only guy this week that wasn't a doctor. Everybody on Twitter was a doctor. Well, it was actually my problem. And I actually said this on the air the national broadcast. I said, listen, it's not it's it's it's scary. You never want to see a player do this, but this is football. It is a dangerous game. Everyone knows what

they signed up for. And as far as what happened the week before, I don't. I never bought that it was his back or his ankles by youth stumbling. But I also don't believe it. Independent neurologists who, by the way, it's been half a million dollars, a good education and ten years of their lives become a neurologist, would purposely fudge on an evaluation. Now, they might have got it wrong.

Maybe they didn't have all the information. Pete. You know what it's like during a game, things are going on hundred miles an hour on the sidelines, and players don't tell the truth sometimes of course they want to be in the game. Did you mean to have a concussion test when you were playing? No? I mean we did, but it was pretty it was like everyone was like just attacking Mike Daniel, attacking you know, the doctors. I just don't think that that independent nerologists like purposely fudge

the test because what's the upside for that individual? But it's isn't it on to the individual player? If you have a headache and you're concustom say something. Yes, I mean, let me ask you a question. Did anyone make to a play? No, that's what I mean. Now, do I think we need um policies and procedures in place to protect players against themselves? Absolutely? And was there a failure somewhere along the line. Yes, it's something that he's been reviewed.

But if Mike Mdaniel and you're the head coach and you were told by the medical staff that he is cleared to play and he is can unicating fine with you and has no real effects that it looks like then you go play him. I agree, I'm with you, and I just don't buy that this independent or all just like somehow purposely now they obviously messed up. Well,

they didn't say it was a concussion. Why wouldn't you just say it was a concussion, though, Tony, there's well because when they ran through the test, he passed the concussion protocols. Why would you give them concussion protocols if you thought it wasn't if you didn't think it was a concussion, that was a concussion. But but if he passes, okay, but he knew it was a concussion. No, they thought it was a possible concussion. Yeah, guys know the answers

to that question. Now those questions nowadays, by the way, I supposedly Let's move along to the games on Sunday in London. The Vikings survived the Saints a double doink at the end on the field goal from sixty one unreal. Could you imagine he made a sixty yard and Attie, he would have made a sixty one yard to send it send it in overtime? That would have been incredible. I mean he he nailed the kick. It was about four yards up on the cross on the on the

bar and it would have went in. So their disappointment to Saints right now, I thought they'd be better pet me too. Falcons win on the last second field goal over the Browns twenty. The Bills beat the Ravens. The Ravens were up seventeen in the second quarter Bill's rally. Josh Allen had a touchdown run and then the Bills later won and on the last second field goal. Pete,

thanks for jumping in there. Um. Yes, JP, I didn't see the game in entirety, but it was a great comeback and a lot of questions controversy about John Harball. Go he was gonna play a call. He didn't play the call, you boy, he didn't play the call. He said, John Murphy call did it play? I didn't say, John Murphy, I said, Pete Brisco On the on the graphic, it said John, I'm aware of what it said. Did you

pull a call off of their JP? Well, because we're talking about concussions for five minutes, so we have to trim some shows. Sorry. Anyways, I disagree with John Harball's decision kick the field goal go ahead? Don't you agree, Tony? You go ahead in that situation. I would think so, Pete. But I wasn't watching the game. I had no idea. I didn't see one snap of it, so I can't play. Had a fourth down play with four minutes ago in the game, they're tied, you take you take the lead.

You kicked the field goal. It wasn't like Buffalo had forty points. They had twenty at the time. Yeah, I would probably kick the goal. Yes, Let's move along to the Cowboys and the Commander's early fourth quarter. Dallas up by five, that Cowboys pull away. Hey, Pete, it's Brad Sham on one oh five three of the fan on the Dallas Cowboys Rady on Network second and five, coming right to left in the white jersey, silver helmets and pants, rush under pressure, throws sticks, he got twit and he

walked the dog thirty on a touchdown. The Cowboys good people. They're good on defense. They can rush the passer um. You know their offensive line. Once they get guys going again, they're gonna be good upfront. So yeah, I think the Cowboys arguing we'll know next week because they play at Philly next week. You know, they played this week at the Chargers. Back be back to back. That's two tough games, really, two tough games. All the love for Cooper Rush could

be out in the building, but the quarterback controversy. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, right, Seahawks over the Lions lines where Down could never get over the top of that game. Seahawks never trailed, Giants over the Bears twenty to twelve. The Jets and the Steelers. The Jets down three, knocking on the door, laid a fumble and a review. Bob wish usan on the point seven ESPN

Jets Radio Network, second and goal inside the two. Wilson text the snap handoff, haul up the middle, extra effort at the goal line. The ball popped out. He might have lost it at the goal line. The Jets think he got across the goal line. Nine seconds to go. The clock has stopped. Tyler Coughlin advanced the balls. The runner broke the plane of the goal line. Therefore, by rule, that is a touch The Jets up a touchdown. Brace Hall did indeed break the plane before the all popped down.

I'll ask you again, Pete, are the Jets good? They're better than I thought they would be. And Zach Wilson actually played okay, I mean through a couple of band picks. You know what he is right now, He's a guy that can lead you on the game winning drive, but he'll throw two throws that you go, oh my god, how did he throw those? But there That's gonna be an interesting game this week in Miami with Teddy Bridgewater starting. I mean, the bigger story is how bad the Steelers

are and that they gotta go to picket. You're gonna go to picket. They have to Cardinals over the Panthers. Sen the Packers beat the Patriots in overtime, Raiders over the Broncost twenty three. The Chiefs beat the Buccaneers on Sunday Night Football one thirty one. That leaves us with Monday Night Football. It's a California showdown in the NFC West.

Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and the two and one l A Rams head to Santa Clair to face Jimmy Garoppolo, George Kittle and the San Francisco forty Niners at one and two. Who you gotta LEAVI Stadium tonight and Tony? Are you going all right? Not going? And I think that I think win this game. They've had the Rams number outside of the last game of outside of the playoffs last year. Um and that was

even in the playoff game. If they just don't bumble it at the end, they beat the Rams and the Rams don't win a Super Bowl this year. Uh. And that's one of those matchups that the forty Niners have had the Rams number for a while. Now. I agree, I think the Rams will win the game. But these two games get it. These two teams get after it. Man, and after what Jimmy g did last week, I think he bounces back. By the way he's beat He's six and oh against the Rams. That's the regular season. That's

why I picked the forty Niners. They've owned, They've owned the Rams. Do you think the Rams will win? Yeah? I do. I think Aaron Donald not having Trent Williams is big for the forty Niners, really big. All right, they have another show in the books. Apparently the Jaguars are going on a winning streak from here. Tony has them. They could have the number one seed, Corny Basli. They might, oh my god, one week at a time too, they might have the number one seed all in one show.

We can't get that anywhere else. It's hard to tell. Lose this week, then what they're not going to no they're not we locked it that. It's a guarantee. It's a guarantee of virtual guarantee. You should jump in a lock once in a while. We'll see how that goes. Probably mush us. Wow. Thanks, I hope it doesn't rain the rest of the year for you. Geez, unbelievable as weather conditions. Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli, Joe Fortunano, Brent Reeber. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for watching and listening.

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