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Thanks for coming in. We appreciate that. And a lot going on. Of course, I'm really starting to build up. It hasn't really been happening the last month or so, but it's felt like it's starting to build toward. Okay, the combine next week. They've announced the coaching staff. Here's the tag, windows open, they've got a cut players at some point. We'll get to all that and the schedule ahead coming up in just a little bit. But one of the biggest priorities was getting the coaching staff finalized.
After making a bunch of cuts, certainly on the defensive side of the football. The Jaguars today announced all the assistant coaches here in the twenty twenty four season and beyond, including Ryan Nielson, who spoke with the media last week and you know, he was asked, Hey, when are you finalizing the staff, and he kind of looked over to the pr staff for the right He's like, well, they're here, but we'll get to, you know, the finalization of that
coming up. Well it's here. Now. What does Nielsen think of the staff that he's hired?
Excited about the guys work with, some of them haven't worked with, other coached a few, and so it's just it's a great group of guys that been very close to know that first and foremost good men. Secondly, really good teachers, teachers of the game, and so when you put those two things together, you know they're eager and excited. We see a lot of similarities John.
We'll go through the names here in a moment, but it's a mix of guys that he either coached or was with in other places and a couple of guys that may not have been even involved in that process before. But starting with defensive backs coach Chris Richard. That'll be a focal point I think a lot, because hey, that secondary is a big piece of what they're gonna do obviously on the defensive side of the ball. Chris Richard serving as the defensive backs coach seventeen years of NFL
coaching and playing experience. He was with Nielsen with the Saints in twenty twenty two, so a couple of years ago when they were fifth in total defense and played thirty eight games in the NFL. Let's start with that. I mean, this is you know, if you look at a lot of the needs the lists for the Jaguars, cornerback is right up there the top.
Yeah, and the defensive backs coach overall, a lot of people believe it's the most important secondary. I mean, I do the most important assistant defense position now because realistically the front seven is much simpler by comparison, You're scheming more in the back. The defensive coordinator in this case is a is a front seven guy, a defensive line guy. So so what will depend on the back seven? You hear good things, I mean, it will depends on the
secondary coach. You hear good things about Chris Richard, You hear good things about the entire staff. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know exactly how he's going to approach things. To me, the important thing about the defensive assistants are are they on the same page as the defensive coordinator you would think starting off they are? Can they get buy in from the players beyond that? You know me, JP, I don't particularly overemphasize assistant coaches
in turn philosophy. It's mainly do the guys in the room believe what these guys are saying? And can they translate with the defensive coordinator once I'm gonna trust they can't.
Another secondary addition defensive assistant and cornerbacks coach Corey Robinson. Well, Robinson comes in from the University of Tennessee the volunteers, but he spent three years with the Saints and Hents. The connection guys with Ryan Nielsen. And then another assistant secondary coach and defensive analyst is Mike Gray, so that completes the secondary staff. Matt House the inside linebackers coach.
He was two years with LSU and the Tigers were the top tackling team in the SEC sixth and total defense and was with the Chiefs for three years before that, so he's been around the league for a little bit and he'll have his hands on the inside linebackers. That's obviously a huge focus of this defense.
Yeah, and Devin Lloyd to me, is a huge key for this defense. Can they get the most out of him?
Uh?
Can they get him playing at a high level in terms of, uh, maybe not making the mistakes that he makes when he's keyed on? And Uh, so that's a big deal Foroyer Lucon. You know, to me, seems like the kind of guy, no matter who's coaching him, is going to bring his a game to the table and be able to adapt a veteran of the game. Can they reach Devin Lloyd? Uh? You know, I assume they can. You know, I think there'll be a focus and uh, we'll see. I'm not sure. Can an assistant make him
make tackles? Can have him in the right gaps? We'll see.
We will find out. Defensive line coaches Jeremy Garrett and Garretts, a guy who actually played for Nielsen at Old Miss when Nielsen was a defensive line coach for the Rebels that was from four to seven, and the ed Orgeron years at Old Miss. Sure, it's a long long time ago and most recently been at Auburn last season, but has some time in the NFL as a coach with the Cleveland Brown So defensive line, there's a at least coming into this offseason, a lot of players with a
lot of big contracts up here in the middle of this defensive line. We'll see who's around. It feels like they're all going to have to be back because of the dead cap numbers. So he's got some guys to work with and they've got to get stouder and bigger up front.
Yeah, and that's a curious spot to me because Devon Hamilton, you have to trust will come back and be better than he was last year with the back injury. I mean, with the back issue, we're going to assume that that rights itself fully. Fight Acasi in two years since being signed as an interstrict free agent has been inconsistent at best. So can they get out of him? Do they want him back? The cap numbers suggests they might have to
somewhere up front. You need better stouter play where Robertson Harrison will be back because of his contract, So do they add somebody in there is something they want to address. Can you add somebody? If Photocosi is back to me, it's a huge storyline. They have to be better and stouter than they were at the end of the season in order to be a better run defense because at the end of the season last year they couldn't stop the run, which was absolutely opposite of what they were
early in the season. How do they get there? Maybe it's coaching.
Remember Bill Shuey was one of the coaches retained from the defensive staff, the outside linebackers coach. He has an assistant with him now, Mario Jebriel, So he joins the staff and helps out Shoey with some of the big time names obviously in Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen. If they can figure out the situation with Josh and the contract going into free agency.
Yeah, I'm gonna we have more to say about that.
I'm going forward.
I think they'll be coaching Josh Allen, Bill shoe You know, if Bill Shoey, if he had anything to do with the twenty seven point five sacks, good for keeping him.
Out about that.
So obviously did the job.
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four and a few offensive additions as well. Bertie Parmally no longer the running backs coach, and Jerry Mack officially announced as a running backs coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars his first season in the National Football League. Twenty years in college football. He was with the University of Tennessee the last three seasons, and they were number one in rushing in the Southeastern Conference a year ago and two years ago we were the best offense in college football.
He threw the ball around a good bit that two years ago, but fantastic career in college football. Now take in that step and we've seen a little bit of that trend. There was a lot of kind of buzz on X today of some national reporters talking about how many college coaches are jumping out of college and trying to get back to the NFL to get away from some of this nil and off the field backs in college,
and that's that can be real. We haven't talked to Jerry mack about that, but hey, it is a different style, a different schedule year round, and Jerry mcnow gets his first NFL chance.
Yeah, if you were a college coach when you went out to I mean it's a mess. So I again, I have no idea if that's why Jerry mac want it out or want it in. Look running backs coach. He has a great resume. You would assume that a big part of it will be working with Tank Bigsby, trying to get the running backs up to speed in terms of pass blocking, in terms of steps to the
line of scrimmage, detail things. His resume is great. The task to me for the running backs coach is making sure you get more out of Bigsby than he did last year. They like him as a runner, he was not ready last year in third down situations or in passing situations. That's not unusual for a rookie running back at all, but it's something that you need to be able to do to get on the field in big situations. I would think that's a huge task for the running backs coach.
With Tank Bigsby, Yeah, they didn't have a consistent option outside of traves et.
Yeah, and you know, it's so tough situation. It's so tough to judge the position. I got a lot of questions about what the running backs they struggled last year. Etn's numbers dropped in terms of yards per carry three point eight from I think I think it was five point one in twenty twenty two. I put those kind of numbers more on the offensive line than I do the backs. To me, backs can usually run if they have room.
In the NFL, Phil Rousser is still the offensive line coach, but he has a new assistant this year, Greg Austin promoted. He was a quality control coach last year for the Jaguars on the offensive side, but now the assistant offensive line coach for the Jaguars. So Austin will get his hands a little more on this Jaguars offensive line. We're expecting some moving parts in this offseason, and it all starts right there for this offense.
Yeah, offensive line to me is we could easily spend an hour a week until free agency talking about the offensive line because there are so many different directions they could go. Are they going to do anything with the center position? Are you going to bring Cam Robinson back? And if you do or don't, that could mean an entirely new combination starting there, meaning Anton Harrison on the left and walk a little on the right. Or he could mean the same combination meaning Robinson on the left
and Anton Harrison on the right. I assume Brandon Sheriff isn't back because of contract. What does that mean for Cooper Hodges? Do they trust him coming in? I you and I could probably both list out five different starting combinations right now that we predict for week one, and one of us could be right when it's gonna be completely I mean, and I would flip a coin right now on what that might look like in terms of
it being right. There's a whatever that number is. You start multiplying combinations, you know, it could get to be five million different chances. I don't know if it's that, but there's a lot of different chances on this offensive line, but it's got to be better.
And one final edition. Jamel Matunga is the offensive quality control coach. Congratulations to him last season with the Carolina Panthers as an offensive assistant, trying to work his way up in the coaching ran in the National Football League.
So there you have it. The coaching staff announced the Jaguars, and yeah, there is some work to be done between now and then and these guys hitting the ground running to try to get ready for this twenty twenty four season and well up up next though for them was the NFL Scouting Combine. We'll come back in a moment and get in to the week ahead in Indianapolis. It
starts on media Row on Tuesday of next week. We're on tintin XL, Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadrick with John Oser and Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's Water It's worth saving. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's Water. It's worth Saving. JP Shadrick, John Oser in for Jeff Loghman this week. You're here, Well, it's great.
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the stadium, five K, through the ramps and everything. Oh, it didn't go well for me.
I'm not good at up and down.
I'm not good at much of anything. And I found this was action when I was back running a lot and I kept up with Tony for like half a mile, and I didn't keep up with Tony anymore. He just turned on a little bit an extra year. Yeah, this is before the hip win.
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Yeah, and I'd be being mean, not going Yeah, a really good one too. Yeah, the most athletic tackle in the history. Yeah, right, that and he turned on his jet.
I'm not sure you could do that now though with a new hit.
Probably not. I should challenge him again.
It would be bad for you if you lost.
Now, it was bad for me. Anyway, I heard a lot about it. You might actually be able to find that on Jaguars dot com. We need a story about that.
That was a long, long time ago, though it's a minute while.
It's been a while. Hey, there's a busy time coming up. Of course, the Jaguars seems like they might have some action in the franchise tag window, at least that's been the conversation this whole offseason so far, and that window is open now through March fifth. March fifth the deadline to put the franchise tag on a player, and we'll see what happens in the next couple weeks. With that
the NFL Scouting Combine starts next week in Indianapolis. We'll be on the ground there starting Tuesday at the Radio Row at the Indiana Convention Center as always, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday on field testing, I believe, begins Thursday. They kind of roll the position groups through as always, a position group has interviews, media stuff a couple days before they're on the actual field testing. They're interviewing with teams throughout.
There's medical exams, there's all happening at one time, and all these different position groups kind of spread it out day to day. The free agency negotiation period March eleventh through the thirteenth, and then the thirteenth at four o'clock is the start of the league year in twenty twenty four and free agency begins. So between now and then, you gotta clear some space if you're gonna start making some runs at top tier free agency guys.
Yeah, and I would expect two or three moves along those lines. Either that or it's always hard to know. People ask, well, who thinks getting cut, It's hard to know how they're going to do it. In terms of you might extend guys, you might add some voidable years. There's ways to clear cap space. I would think players such as Rayshawn Jenkins, Brandon Sheriff, maybe Cam Robinson of
a great feel for that. But there are guys who you know, when you sign these guys for certain deals in certain years, you're not really signing them with the idea that they're going to be around for five years. Even the duration of the contract. You're hoping that they can play at a high level to a certain point, and then you have to have drafted well to see.
That's part of the business. And I'm not saying Sheriff and ray Shon are bad players, but they seem like guys at the stage of their careers where it might be time to transition. So I would expect moves along those lines before free agency begins. You know, people always ask, well, what's surprises do you expect, which you wouldn't be surprised, Yes.
So I think the one that is interesting that's the Cam Robinson one. That's a tough one to deal with because it's what twenty something million.
Dollars cap numbers astronomically high.
But he was really good when he was out there.
He has been a really, really good player for them for a long time, reliable matters in the locker room. To me, he's sort of a core guy, you know. He's a guy who sort of represents what the Jaguars have been for the last five six a and say, oh, well they didn't win a lot, but you know what I'm getting at, right, And he has been a guy who has increasingly become a leader around the team, a little bit of a spokesman last year, but beyond that,
he's been really solid. And I always say, give up dependable players at.
Your own risk, you know, so they don't come around that all.
Yeah, sometimes you have to do it, but there's also guys that when you give them up, you're as soon as you do, you're trying to find another version of that.
Right, So, pretty darn deep at tackles right last year because of all the tackles they have Anton Harrison, you're little. Well, all of a sudden you get rid of one of those, you're not as deep anymore.
Yeah, And that's what that's the thing. When you start playing what I call depth chart football in the off season, it's really easy to fall into the trap of well, they've got this guy left tackle, this guy right tackle, and this guy at center, this guy guard, and then all of a sudden on October fourteenth, you don't have that guy at left tackle and you need one to
step in. So that has been a dependable situation where when you see a guy go down during the season, you're not panicking when all of a sudden, Cam Robinson can't play for a week. Now, if Walker Little or Anton Harrison can't play for a week and Cam's not here now, you're probably talking about a rookie or a guy who you don't feels good about. At the same time,
his cap number is really really high. So at some point you have to be able to trust guys you have drafted to replace guys that you drafted a long time ago. Is that the time now for Cam Robinson? I think we'll find out the next couple of weeks.
I mean, in theory, you could renegotiate and push some things out and you know, trim it down some, but still he still gets his money. But you know, is that in the long term plan of the organization. Are they so confident in the other two tackles? Well, Little and antime they wouldn't.
Do that on paper and in the planning rooms and on the like I said on the PowerPoint presentations, that's what you're that's what you would want to do with Cam because he's what going into is eighth year next year. That's starting to get to be the point where you do want to have drafted well enough where you know, hey, it's a business, we have to move on. But games aren't played on PowerPoint presentations, so sometimes it doesn't work
out as well. And you but that's I don't know which way they'll go, but that's what they have to balance as you move forward with Well, ideally, here's what we would do. Yeah, but he's really really good, so you sort of you know, that's the dilemma. It's why they're there and we're here.
Yeah, And that's it's a similar conversation on the interior too. I mean, at some point you got to get big bodies that can go out there and play Ivan Tyler Shatley's a free agent coming up. He was obviously showed his value a lot over the years. Ten years here. For goodness sakes, he's stuck around all these different regimes for a reason because he goes out there when he has to and he produces. But he's also a tenth year player or going into his eleventh year.
I think coming up and think about what we're talking about here, JP, you're talking about not really knowing what the future is for Cam, for Ezra Cleveland, for Shatley and Sheriff.
Yeah, Cleveland's a free agent as well.
So that's a lot of veteran bodies to be walking out if none of them return. So that's why I keep talking about whenever I talk about this, the many, many options, many potential plans. It's gonna be fascinating a couple of weeks at a couple of weeks at at that position, because now you've got to wonder how much do you trust Cooper Hodges, who they like a lot, but who has never played in the NFL beyond a few practices. How do they feel about Luke Fordner? I
know fans are down on them. I don't get the idea of the team is down on as.
The fans publicly they have said they supported.
Right, So Ezra Cleveland, who played here five or six games they like a lot, can they get them back? So it's uh, the offensive line is gonna look a lot different next year. It's gonna be interesting to see do you bring in a free agent, draft a rookie, then you have Cooper. It could look a lot different that they have to make the right moves over the next what two months.
Or they could just make one. If they don't bring the right guard back Sheriff, then the other four stay. It's almost the saving I know.
To get the other four day, you have to resign's right, which is he's a veteran guy with four years.
If that happens, then it would be the same five at the end of the year.
It could be and or four of the five. So in that case then you have to go with storyline of well, that group needs to play better. That's right, and groups can play better, but that group needs to play better, especially on the interior.
We've got plenty ahead. We're gonna come back though, John as if we haven't done this yet. We're gonna keep it real when we come back, okay, and we're gonna flip it to defense. Have a big name. Everybody's talking about Josh, Oh, yeah, that guy. Say what you think I was thinking about?
I thought you were probably talking about what that look that was wondering.
I'd be curious what you thought I was thinking. Uh, we're back at the moment as Jaguar is Happy Hour brought to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's Water. It's worth saving.
A lot of production, right, very important. And so when you got a guy like that and and you want him back, and I think that's going to work out, would be really excited that works out, Really excited to work with him. Nothing but great things. Talk to Josh and he's been he's been fantastic, and so that'll get worked out. Get him back and get him, get him going, and hopefully get him into improve That's ultimate goal, right, just take one. We can just get that much better
next year. Really, what does that look like? That's pretty exciting, right, and so that's kind of what we want to work towards.
That's Ryan Nielsen, Jagg's defensive coordinator, last week during his press conference a week ago today, when asked about Josh allen Man, welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour brought to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's Water. It's worth saving and JP Shadwick with John Oser for Jeff Loghim in today we're on tentenexl am Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube as we will be each and every Thursday in this offseason up until about mid June at the
end of the offseason. Program time. Now, John for keeping it real. All right, this is what we do. We keep it real.
Yeah, Okay, you're rero. Nielson's quote should have been big fan, big fan, Josh a lot good answer.
The question today, though, is not about whether you like him or not, because I think everybody's in agreement that the DAGs like him. Josh Allen likes it all that if it's a franchise tag and he plays under that, if it's a long term deal and he plays under that, if it's a tag, then they get to a deal before the season. Does it really matter if he's just on the field next.
Year for next year. No, I mean, I think you would like to get him locked up for the long term or I would. I think he's a very safe a safe resigning for a lot of reasons that I've outlined many times in recent weeks. He's a really good player, even if he's not getting huge sack numbers. And I've said a million times people get tired of me saying it.
But when he had seven and a half sacks seven sacks In the years leading up to his seventeen and a half sack season, I still thought he was by far the best defensive player on the team, and when a defensive player would be hurt, I would always scan the field hoping it wasn't Josh Allen, because I don't know where you go to replace what he gives you in terms of consistency, really good against the run, effort
always there. You never hear you know, a lot of pass rushers, you'll hear risks, Hey, it takes plays off. We never hear that about Josh. So to me, you get him resigned, get a deal done. But that's easy for me to say. I'm not sitting there looking at the numbers trying to crunch what value is on that. That's up to those guys. So it would seem like
that's something you want to do. In terms of what happens on the field, I don't think it matters that much for twenty twenty four whether he's tagged or whether he is under long term deal, as long as the long term deal discussions aren't insulting. But even if they are, Josh, to me is a guy who it's a business, so there's things that go back and forth during negotiations that might you know, anytime you have human beings talking to
each other, irritated, happy, whatever all those things are. But I don't think he carries that into his preparation, and I don't think he carries anything business side of it into how he gives during a season. You've been around him for five years, Jp, I have two. He plays for his teammates, his team's pride. So I don't think you're going to see a big difference in Josh whether he's franchised or whether he is a long term deal.
I think the reason the long term deal is so important is because I want to see him here in twenty twenty five, yeah, in twenty twenty six.
And from Josh's perspective, the long term deal is guaranteed more money, sure over longer period. So more money is better than less money, right.
But the question is does it matter for twenty twenty four now? If he is franchised and has ten sacks compared to seventeen and a half, then everybody's gonna say, well, ye know, he's mad he didn't you. But I don't see him being a guy who doesn't prepare. I thought he prepared at the same level and effort whatever. I'm not sure there was a big difference in his preparation between twenty three and moving between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. He timed it right and had a
huge year. But you can't tell me that he was that much more motivated well in twenty twenty three than twenty twenty two.
Well, yeah, I'm with you on that because his every day he.
Was playing for a contract year before TiO.
Work habits and everything or what they are. But I think he heard some of that noise. Yeah, I mean he at least told me that at Yeah, did was there a game wrecker on this defense? That was the big question going into that season, and I think he spent a lot of this offseason thinking about that and how he could become that game wrecking air quote type of player. And sack numbers turned him into that guy.
But to your point about you know, in twenty twenty two he only had seven sacks, right, good year, solid year, but he also still had twenty two quarterback hits, eleven less than he had last year. He had four forced fumbles, two recoveries, which are hard to judge. But he also had that touchdown in the last week of the season, so he was impactful in other ways beyond just sacks. That's your point, and I think that will be at least the bottom floor the basement of what he will be.
He's always going to be around the football and impactful in some way, if it's if it's sacking the quarter otherwise.
And my point with Josh is, I don't think you're going to get a lower a different level of preparation, effort, desire based on whatever you do, whatever happens in the off season, whether he's franchised, whether he's not, I don't think you're going to get a different level of preparation and effort and even impact. I think he's always going to be a pressure guy, whether it breaks right, and he always gets sacks. Sacks sometimes or beyond a player's control.
Yeah, that's I mean, you can be right there around it, near it, and then you get it out or it's fumbled or whatever before you get there, or whatever happened.
And the best example I can give of that Hall of Famer Dwight Freeney once told me his best year was when he had four and a half sacks, and he felt like he played better that year. His opportunities weren't the same, but he swore up and down that his best year was when he had four and a half sacks compared to thirteen or twelve. And sometimes it's a circumstance, and this is a guy who you know, had a lot of double digit, double digit sax seasons.
Something to keep an eye on the next couple of weeks. You know, if they don't come to a long term deal before March fifth, do they, they're going to have to put the tag on him and we'll see what happens.
Well, I'm assuming that he's deal, he'll tag it. He'll have the tag, so we'll have to And then does that mean you can get him to a long term deal later. I would think it would be something that keep working on. But so much of this is speculation because they're really not I don't think either side is going to talk very much about the specifics of this until you're franchised, and then you know, they may say, no,
he's just gonna play on the tag this year. I don't have a good feel for which way that'll go.
Well. I know, there's been a long history of the Jaguars, right, a lot of different decision makers over the years. But the Jaguars have had in the past ten franchise tags used. Six of those instances have been a tag and then sign a long term deal before the next season starts. A couple of those two other ones. Three other ones played under the tag number that year, including Donovan Darius twice before he signed a long term deal, and then yeni Kin get Away was tagged and then traded. That
was not gonna happen anyway. So now a lot of different decision makers over that time. You never know, every instance is different. But uh, in theory, and what's so bad about the franchise thing anyway, it's it's twenty something million dollars if it's one.
Year, yeah, it's bad year. It's fine, I mean, it's it's it would be good money for you.
And sneeze at it in Washington a couple of years.
No, and he played his way into a lot of money on those tags. Yeah, I think just generally, you sort of know just from Josh has three children, you'd like to know where he's gonna be too. There's an element of that and for a player like Josh, the gearuaranteed money of a long term deal would be greater than the guaranteed money of the tag. Uh So it it sends you a little worry of staying healthy for the next year before you can get to that guaranteed
money the next year. So it's it's it's better for the player. They all want the longer term deal, except Kirk Cousins, who became a wealthy man on a lot of short terms.
Certainly did and then got the full guaranteed thing in Minnesota. I think he's up again rights.
Every year of his career. Yeah, and he's uh, yeah, he's playing the system.
He's h he might be in the Business Hall of Fame.
Yeah, you know he is in. Yes he is.
Andrew Brandt has that, So there you have it. Keeping it real, Josh Allen tag deal tag than deal doesn't matter. He's gonna be on the field next yes, so yes and.
No it does yield yes, so no, it doesn't matter, so yes and no.
Depending on your perspective, matters to Josh, I'm sure it does so hey, you know it probably also matters to Trayvon Walker, right, I mean, if you have that other guy across from you or helping you on the defensive line the other edge, as it were. If unless they start moving walk around a little bit more, then it's better to have that help across from you or beside you, or wherever that happens to line up.
Yeah, no doubt. Your ideal is that they're both hard to block, so that they can't that they have to choose to double one of them on all plays, and then that leaves the other guy free on play. So that's your ideal. It felt like they Trayvon got doubled a lot all last year and so did Josh, so by the end of the season they did have that
feel of both of them being hard to block. When you get twenty seven and a half sacks and a lot of pressures, what they would like is to maintain something close to those numbers and then get some help on the interior. That's that's where that's the next step.
That's where it turns into twenty seventeen.
Right now, and ferish the guys on the interior. They had to have gotten some pressure or the guys on the edge don't get those numbers. So if the guys on the interior doing nothing then you can step up too easily.
But it was just so inconsistent with injury last year there, I mean Hamilton and fully fun of Cassi. I mean those guys were off the field more than they were on.
Yeah. I would say run stopping at the end of the season was more of an issue for those guys in the interior than pressure in the passing game.
So because they were good early against the run, yeah, and took the ball away and then that that all just went away, all disappeared. There you have it, keeping it real. We're back in a moment, and we've got the Microsoft social media questions. Yes we did, yes, the right around the corner, and John, you have answers.
I will try.
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for the Social media Questions presented by Microsoft. We put out the Cat Signal earlier today. Here the best we've come up with at I'm Bill McNeil. After not being able to trade up using the extra picks in last year's draft, well, GM trimp Balkey reconsider having eleventy billion picks in this year's draft? Well they had thirteen last year. Yeah, picked them all.
I'm not quite sure what the question he's wanting him like, he's got what this year eight or not? So he'll probably go into it with two more from COMPS, So will he reconsider it? I'm not sure that he really went in last year wanting that many, so I don't think gms typically want that many draft picks, So I would think if he goes into it with around nine or ten, A lot of that depends on what they think of the following year's draft, what they think of
the later rounds, So it's tough. I get the point everybody said, well it's too many draft picks. He you know, they wanted to move up for certain guys. They tried, so.
You know.
I guess I'm not sure what reconsider means in the question. I think he to answer the question best I can. I think he would like to have nine or ten and then be able to move up and go. He had a guy when he wants it. I think he wanted that last year too. There were instances where they tried to trade, but it's always easy to say after well he should have tried harder trade. Well, you try to trade, but you also don't want to give up so much in the trade that you lose value in it.
So just because you can't trade doesn't mean you know you're you're an awful trader. It means that you worked at this trade, couldn't get the value wanted, and decided to stan Pats.
So if we know anything about Trent Balke and his drafting history, he's a fantastic trader. I mean, the guy has so many trades on draft Day over the years in San Francisco. In here. It didn't happen last year.
Yeah, sometimes you want a guy the other team knows you want the guy, and they also want the guy, or they want a player at this spot. Somebody asked me last week about Marvin Harrison g and what would it take to go up and get him from seventeen? That would be too much, I would think. Also, sometimes bends on the player. Like this, this questioner assumed that
Marvin Harrison Junior be availablet number four in the draft. Well, if that player wasn't perceived as being as good as Marvin Harrison Junior, or that team didn't want that player, wouldn't take as much. If the team sitting at four really wants Marvin Harrison Junior, then there's nothing that can make you go so I mean exaggerate. There would be something if you gave him, like your new car.
But I mean think about last year, right the Texans moved up to get will Anderson right after they had picked number one. They got to number three, and they had the picks to do it. They had all these first round picture Dean Watsons.
If the team sitting there had been dead sold on will Anderson, it wouldn't have mattered with the Texans game. There's a price. So yeah, I hope I answered the question. Is tricky in terms of knowing. I don't think Trent wants to go into a thirteen. I don't think they wanted it. Last year, but it sort of became a dealer. They couldn't get out of it.
Yeah, and with that many players, there's only so many that can truly contribute in one season. I mean in theory, right, I mean they had Harrison was obviously on the field all year, Strange was on the field most of the season. Bigsby we know about him. Ben trel Miller had the foot issue all year, Lacey played some, Abdullah was inactive a lot of the time. Antonio Johnson late in the year after he came back from his injury. Parker Washington contributed and then he get down around six and seven.
It's Braswell and Hallett and the secondary Cooper Hodges had the knee issue. Vhasig didn't make the team. Derek Parrish didn't make the team, the seventh round guy. So that kind of happened sometimes, especially with that many picks. Well, sometimes there's only so many spots on the team.
Sorry about that.
Who's calling you? Yeah, they don't know you're on the air.
John with six and seventh round picks, he say, well, why didn't they trade those for higher picks? Yeah, Well if the other team doesn't want to either, Yeah, So that's kind of tough too, so it can be tricky undrafted.
Next question at ratis Underscore Johansson. Of the teams that missed the playoffs last season, what are the Jags rank in terms of likelihood of elevating themselves back into the playoffs? I think they're right on the border right.
I haven't really looked at all the teams that missed it, to be honest with you, but look, they were nine to eight and missed it by I think they were the last team out.
They were a game away from going.
I don't think they're going to be worse.
Let's go through the teams that missed. Yeah, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Denver, Jets, Titans, Chargers, Patriots.
I would put them second to Cincinnati right in terms of if I was trying to be neutral, I think the Bengals go make the playoffs next year. I think they were a really, really good chance the quarterback. It would surprise me more if the Bengals weren't in the playoffs and if the Jaguars weren't in the playoffs. But I think the Jaguars, I think there's a very good
chance to go back to the playoffs. I think they're nine to eight team, and last year with I think they would have been in the playoffs had Trevor and Christian not gotten hurt.
So I don.
Anticipate them being worse than that, But no team really anticipates being worse. You always think you're getting.
Better, That's right, And all of a sudden, Houston made the surge in year one with that whole crew. Yeah, and that feels like they could build some momentum as well.
So they could, which is exactly what everybody was saying about the Jags on this show, like very true to go the other way. Yeah, so we'll see.
We'll say, you just don't know. Next question at jagspan five eight five eight, does it make sense to let Calvin Redley walk and then try re signing him so we can keep the second round pick. I would think we need that second round pick to draft other needs.
Yeah, it makes sense unless he resigned he signed somewhere else.
Do you have some kind of wink deal in place or something weird like that.
Yeah, and that may be, and if they do good for them, I would you know, I'm a burdenhand guy, so yes, it's something they conceived. We try. I don't know how much sense it makes you be you would love to have your cake and eat it too, which that is so, yes, it makes sense. They would also be the risk of him signing somewhere else.
That's why he goes and offers him a boat load of money. And yeah, all of a sudden he's signing the paper of the day after a free agency.
Right, which is why you hope there's there's very little tampering before the real tampering windows true.
Next question, our last question of the day at Carnival, Thomas has social media helped or hurt professional sports on the whole? Just looking for commentary from two vets of the industry. This is this is such a deep question I had to take it today. I think it's it's yes, the answer. Yeah, it's depending on your perspective.
I think for young people, I think it's made it more interactive at times and more fun. Uh. For old coats like me, I, I you know, I don't know that it's helped the quality on the face, I'm I guess I'm thinking more about the quality of games. Hadn't really affected that very much, but in terms of following it it's certainly. Uh. I can remember when I was in college following the the Washington football team, there were
times you felt very distant from it. The only times I ever really learned about that team where when I was watching them on TV. Because the Internet, I would put up with that as much as social media. You know, the Washington Post. I got it like three or four days late in the Florida library, So I was hungry for all information on the team. But I didn't know every backup guard the way fans who really follow us and the team do now. I didn't know. I didn't
read a press conference wrap up after every practice. There was no Twitter, so it wasn't in real time, so that it's different, And.
I would say, I mean it's better because there's more quantity of coverage now, but the quality is diluted a little bit. Sure, you have to be very careful about why you're reading a certain tweet or article from a tweet or whatever it is, to make sure it's truly news or does it matter you know.
Yeah, I think it's made it's harder for you don't have to.
Be as qualified now to you know, or have a lengthy journalistic career to have that kind of thing.
Yeah, and and I guess the end of the coverage. Is the coverage better now than it was then? I would say no, because newspapers are dying out so much that I'm not sure it's as good. But that's not necessarily Social media as fall as much as the Internet. So it's it's uh.
To your point. Has it changed the game?
I mean, I don't think changed the game.
Has it changed players mentality about how they put stuff out?
Sure, I think it's ratcheted up the pressure and the
immediacy and what's reacted to. I think it's made the It's made the coaches press conference and media access points more high volatile, that's not the right word I'm looking for, but it's made that more of a pressure cooker type thing where you've really got to watch what you say and it's all immediate, and Doug might say something on the podium and people just react to it and it's he's an idiot, he's you know, Whereas before a coach might say something and it would be in a story
and on TV and it would be a little more nuanced maybe and a little more not the reaction to it that there is now so it's made it harder for them. I think on that front, change that dynamic. Is it better or worse? Uh? You know the old man shouting the clouds in me said, it's probably worse, but it's probably not. It's probably just different. I mean, so I think I do think this in terms of watching your team, the immediacy now is it is so much different.
I mean it was.
For a fan. This is better, without question. And I can share this story in the Washington football team in nineteen seventy six, which is way back JP. But in a while, I'm in the sixth grade. They're all that matters to me, right, I mean, this is my team. They lost it or they won a game. I didn't know they had won till the next morning it was one o'clock.
Oh wow.
Yeah, because it wasn't on. It just wasn't on, and no sports center. There was no sports center. So that's different.
Yeah, it is.
It's not as good. There you have it.
Thanks for the social media questions powered by Microsoft. Coming up next week, we will be in Indianapolis Tuesday, Wednesday thirty Thursday from Radio Row. Plenty of guests already lined up. We have many more in the Hopper, Daniel Jeremiah will join us NFL Network, Charles Davis, Matt Miller of ESPN, Jordan Reed of ESPN, Field Gates. They're all on the docket, plus many more. All our shows Jags AM will move to Wednesday next week. We'll have Jags Happy Hour Thursday
at four o'clock from Radio Row. Thanks to our entire crew. John, thanks for coming in today.
Fantastic John.
I haven't seen you enough this week.
That's all yesterday, That's.
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