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Ep. 24: Day After Thoughts on Loss to Texans | Jags A.M. Podcast

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John Oehser, Kainani Stevens and Brian Sexton review what went wrong in the 37-17 loss to the Houston Texans in week 3. Plus, the crew dishes out some hot takes based on the Jaguars' 1-2 start to the season.

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Speaker 1

We got great players that have proven that they can play and play well in this league, and for some for some reason, right now, it's just not all clicking and we gotta we gotta figure that out. And I think leading and just it's still in confidence in those guys, but also, like I said, that sense of urgency of it's not all right, all right, we're getting to the point where it's not okay, like it's I get it, you know, And I'm gonna miss some throws and you

guys hold me accountable. I'm not gonna There's gonna be plays that I want back. There's you know, three or four today that I went back where I didn't do my job, and I expect the coaches to hold me accountable and they will. And I'm gonna hold the white outs of tight ends, the running backs to o line accountable as well for stuff that you know, they're not doing the best in their job. So we all no one can get their feelings hurt, and we don't have

guys that do. But we all have to have that accountability and I think that's the biggest thing, and we all have to lead in that way of taking accountability for what we're doing.

Speaker 2

Definitely an accountability day for the Jaguars. Welcome to Jagxam. I'm ka Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier with us, and I don't think any of us expected what we saw against the Texans expectations and we got to just get rid of that because this team is somewhere. We didn't expect them.

Speaker 3

To be a walk into my car last night, and I just kind of flippantly said to somebody, and I realized it's true. If you'd taken me, if you had just gotten back from the future right gotten out of Marty mcflys Stlorean and told me, hey, I've been there. You know the Jaguars lose this game, and they lose

by twenty points, I wouldn't have believed you. There's no way you could have told me that a team coming off a bad week of practice and a loss to the Super Bowl champs against a Houston Texans team that was playing with a rookie quarterback and without key players in key positions would not only win but beat the Jaguars as thoroughly as they did. I wouldn't have been able to believe you.

Speaker 2

And John, it was every facet of the game as well. It wasn't you know before we're dragging on the offense, but it was everybody yesterday.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it was. It was stunningly everybody. I spent last night answering emails trying to figure out how to explain it really can't.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 4

It felt to me that they played with a lot of energy early, like I mean very early, and then when Calvin Ridley had the drop tough catch, but you know, a guy was brought here to make that play, and then the field goal and then it went the other way. It was almost like they were stunned for twenty five minutes of game time, and then you had the weird kickoff returning They were getting back into it, I thought Doug after the game was clearly sort of angry and maybe a little.

Speaker 5

At a loss for what had happened.

Speaker 4

I'm not saying a lot they can't figure it out, but sure a little stunned.

Speaker 5

And I think anybody would have been.

Speaker 3

No, and I'm gonna start questioning some mental toughness, right, I mean, it feels and I asked Doug this at the end of the news conference. That gets between the years here, right, You could see that when they were in the huddle or at the line of scrimmage, there was something missing. And I know I was, you know, nebulous last week trying to put my finger on it, but I really I'm gonna say, I think it's time

to start questioning. And I got the sense yesterday that both Trevor and Doug are questioning everyone around them and their mental toughness. And Trevor even said of himself, so, I mean, if it's a matter of confidence, come on, they should have enough of that. How did they go from a team who figured out a way to win at the end of last year, right so many games where they just figured it out to a team that all of a sudden doesn't believe they could do it.

I don't know. I think that's it. I think it's a good question. Could be asked all week long, and.

Speaker 2

Should It's a fair question to ask as well. Let's start off with our big things today, cold start. We've been talking a lot about a fast start, but as we mentioned that up and Calvin Ridley and things started to spiral after that, Doug tried to figure out what went wrong, and you talked about it, posting.

Speaker 6

You're seeing you're seeing you know, the drops, you're seeing, the the turnovers, you're seeing penalties, untimely penalties. You're seeing flashes of you know, excellence and brilliance and then then a setback. And it's just the consistency that we need needs to improve and it's not there right now. You know, We've got to continue to work and continue to get better and uh, you know, figure figure some things out.

Speaker 2

All credit to the Texans for taking advantage, but the Jaguars gave a lot of that to them. And it's got to be extra frustrating when you know you're the ones making the mistakes and giving away points and victories.

Speaker 3

At what point, Yeah, just I mean the drop is Doug you said, I mean he was brought here to make that catch, and that's a catch that an eleven million dollar receiver aspirations of being a twenty million dollar receiver in the future. Those guys make that catch. And then and then how about here's one that people think it forgotten. How about on third and short in your midfield on the Jaguars second drive where you have trevis

Or traps Travis and Trevor colliding in the backfield. I mean, you have a chance to get a first down here and keep the momentum going. And when does that happen? I mean just it made almost no sense and it just kept going and spiraling out of control.

Speaker 4

The strange and it takes a while to get to this stat but against Kansas City last week, five times past the fifty and the first half, six points. Yesterday four times past the fifty and the first half and no points. You had the fumble at the end of the half, the sheriff hands to the face that took away the fourth down. When you felt like they were getting back into it, they were scoring positions two field goals.

You know, you don't get those six points early on the field goal attempts, and guess what if you have those when the kick return goes the other ways, eight point game instead of fourteen. It all those things matter and to not get points, I think Trevor said they didn't have a three and out, so the offense didn't feel like it couldn't do anything. It was just when it would get going all of a sudden, you know,

mistake here and weird. But you can talk about it meat individually, but then the reality is you got to look at as a trend because it's happening every.

Speaker 2

Week, and for me this week, I think special teams surprised me a lot. For you know, missed kick, blocked kick, the fullback return, which we'll get to in the second block, and ridiculous. I don't even have words for that still, but I think just to see mistakes where we haven't seen them before, it's building on itself in the wrong direction.

Speaker 3

Well, you kept waiting, I know I did. I kept waiting for someone to put their foot down and something to change, right, because that's what we had seen from this team. And of course I havent Ingram said in the locker room after the game. You know, we're not the same team. We can't just assume that we're gonna be the same team. Okay, well they proved that yesterday. Now they're not the same team that they were when last season ended. And you know, if I'm sitting here

questioning again saying, why couldn't they turn things around? If they're doing that two totally different things, that's an issue.

Speaker 4

Well, I think you did have a foot down moment at the start of the second half, and then the kickoff. It's funny, it's gonna go down. It's me of most players to get replayed. I understood that maybe even a little more than the two misses in the first half, because it was one of those weird plays where all a sudden, the balls on the ground and then everybody sort of collapses and he just popped outside and it became a numbers thing.

Speaker 5

It was.

Speaker 4

It was not good, but it was kind of one of those fluky things where you're like, okay, that it was a break that went against him, I thought more than you know, but.

Speaker 3

That it went against them on a day where everything was going yeah. I mean, they couldn't get momentum back.

Speaker 4

The block kicks and the miskicks in the first half. My guess is that that bothers them more than the return did. I'm talked maybe about that, but that would be my guess.

Speaker 2

I think that kick reaturns just timing, which was really tough.

Speaker 1

Oh not.

Speaker 2

Big thing Number two for us is the trenches. We talked last week about the offensive line being a concern for this team, but the defensive line struggled yesterday as well, and Dog talked about how you got to fix things on the line.

Speaker 6

We have to do better. We have to do better starts up front, starts with the offensive line on offense, starts with the defensive line on defense. It starts right there. Again, I'm gonna say this again. We need to coach better, we need to play better, We need to execute better. Whether we are reading our press clippings. We need to get out of our own way right now. We need to evaluate ourselves, beginning with me, and we gotta figure out how to win the game.

Speaker 2

Are hard. Look in the mirror moments Doug mentioned both lines, offensive and defensive line, and you feel like it's affecting people around the lines as well. Like Trevor doesn't necessarily look totally comfortable in the pocket, the defense is not in the same place as the cornerback's trying to deal with the line. It's just I don't know if I have the words right. They had a backup line trying to figure it out as I talk.

Speaker 3

But I'm just they had a backup lift tackle, a backup lift guard, a backup center, and their number two right tackle in the game, and the Jaguars couldn't get enough pressure right the pass rush yet flip side right, they were playing with a that is an average group. No longer are those the JJ Watt Texans that dominate the line of scrimmage. That's not a powerful group. And I kept thinking, as I looked all week long last week,

here's where the Jaguars win this ballgame. John. They're gonna win it up front, which will give Trevor time to be able to calm down and get the passing offense into some sort of a rhythm, and the defense should be able to eight turnovers. Because I thought yesterday they would win up front. That's where I sit here this morning and go, Okay, who is this team?

Speaker 5

Yep?

Speaker 3

Because that's not the team I expected to see on the lines.

Speaker 4

Yeah, And that's what made it so odd to try to analyze because.

Speaker 5

They had.

Speaker 4

They had some runs stop for the most part, they ran with power I thought the Jaguars did, and that felt early on like they were enforcing their will at times. Usually that turns into a game long with time, and then he had time and then they would have moments where they would have three first downs and a drive E Tam would run well and then and then the drive dies of the thirty five.

Speaker 5

So it was this weird.

Speaker 4

Probably when you go back and look at film, there will be a bunch of players where they go, Okay, good stuff, and then at the end of the film session, but why didn't we win? You know, so some games are very easy to figure out. This one was a Again, I felt like I was copy and paste him from the week before because I just wrote missopportunities and mistakes, and that's what this team is right now for last two weeks.

Speaker 3

Well, and it's worth noting you're playing without maybe your best offensive lineman and Cam Robinson. Okay, he wasn't playing that well in August, but he is a highly paid left tackle and a guy who's played at a high level before. And on defense, you're playing without Devon Hamilton, who they just paid because of what he is able

to do. So both those guys are sitting. I guess if you're looking for some ray of sunshine here in the opening of the show, it's that next week we can talk about how you can make some changes to the offensive line. You can get Cam back, you can move Walker inside, you can put Tyler Shatley in at center if he's ready to go. Physically, I think the

center is a problem for them right now. I think Luke Fortner is going backwards more often than he's going forwards, and that's troubling for a guy that you expected to take a step forward this year after starting all nineteen games last year. At least you can talk before Buffalo about moving some guys and improving normally. At this time end of the year, John Help is not on the way. I mean, you don't have a lot of options. There's not someone on the street that's going to come in

and save you. But the Jaguars do with Cam Robinson coming back in a week.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the offensive line is a little bit more of a thought for me than the defense wasn't good yesterday. The defensive line wasn't good yesterday. They weren't bad the first two games though.

Speaker 5

So I.

Speaker 4

Don't I doubt that they're ready to sort of throw in the towel in huge trade time.

Speaker 5

I think it fed the narrative people had.

Speaker 4

In the off season and it's a bad defensive line, but it didn't play that way the first two weeks. So let's see the next week or so that how it goes. The offensive line so far has been I thought it'd be better, Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2

Our third big thing today is what was that? Because as we mentioned some of them already. There's more than a few plays in this game that just you know, had you scratching your head. For me. A lot of them were the penalties and some of the special teams as well. But Trevor talked a little bit about what went wrong in that game on Sunday.

Speaker 1

You never want that to be the case. And it doesn't matter. I mean, I'll say this, like, it doesn't matter who you play, when you play, where you play. If you don't execute and you do stuff like.

Speaker 3

That, you won't win a game. You won't beat anybody.

Speaker 1

And the way we play today, it's like we just can't expect to win playing that way. And there just has to be there has to be some give. There has to be an insurgency. It's just it's not okay to make the same mistakes that we've been making, to do to have the dumb penalties, to have the the bad place, to throw a pick, you know, and lay in the game like I did, Just to do stuff

like that, it's like, it's not all right. You know, we all have to look in the mirror, take accountability, you know, take that and own it and move on.

Speaker 2

Mistakes are fine, Repeated mistakes are the problem here, and we're seeing you know, penalties really at the line making penalties, the offensive line making penalties as Trevor when you shouldn't have been thrown that ball.

Speaker 3

How about Brandon McMahon, it's missing, I mean field goal. It was well within his range, ess and.

Speaker 2

He's brought in for his you know, he's a veteran kicker.

Speaker 3

That was the point right and Kyle he missed it? Why did? It was never going to go in. That's when I turned to somebody. I went, oh boy, this thing is going out of control. We're talking to Marcus Stroudt, the three time Pro Bowl defensive tackle. It's like, how does he miss that? Right? That's when I knew this thing is still not in the right rhythm. It's not in the right groove. Something's wrong.

Speaker 5

Yeah it again. I go back to that first drive and it was almost.

Speaker 4

To me maybe I hate psychoanalyzing a team like this because things happen during the game that we can't see. But you come out and you have all this energy, you get a good stop defensively early, and then you have a play where the quarterback puts it right where he had to put it with your big time playmaker there on the goal line. If he catches that, that's all over the highlight shows, right, that's what Sports Center

play for. Rhydic, doesn't it misses that? And then all of a sudden, to me, there's a feeling, well, we gave it our best shot, and that shouldn't be that feeling at that point, But that was a feeling I had. As soon as Texans went down and scored. You said, uh, seven, nothing feels like a big deficity. It shouldn't feel like that big of a deficit against that team yesterday.

Speaker 3

Well, here's why we're left to psychoanalyze, because they had a bad week of practice by their own admission, before the World Champs came in at the home opener, had lost. Then by all accounts, they had a good week of practice getting ready for a Texans team that we've just illustrated. It's new, it's young, and it's injured, and they lost. I'd explained it, right, I mean, how do you explain some of those plays? And that's why we're left to say, Hey, what's going on up here.

Speaker 2

We're gonna do our best to do just that. We'll be back after the break to go over the tape what went down on Sunday. Move the Freight, Move the Freight, Magell and Transport vote in the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You can apply online at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com.

Speaker 1

Last year's gone, Last year's done. There's a great, great season, there's a great ending, great run that we went on. But one, we want to accomplish more there. We feel like there's a lot more for us. And two, this is a different team. This is a different season. Obviously hasn't started the way we wanted. And I think that's one thing is we can't expect to We can't expect

the ball to just bounce our way every game. We can't put ourselves in seventeen point holes and expect that we're just gonna figure it out, because it's it's hard in this league and you're not gonna be able to do it every week. And of course that we believe it, and halftime, you know we're in there seventeen nothing and we got no doubt we're gonna go win this game. We're gonna find a way. And we started off good

and then ended up obviously not playing well. But it's just it's not feasible to do that every week, and we gotta we can't wait until our backs against the wall to make a play.

Speaker 2

Welcome back to Jags, Trevor addressing something up in Ingram said in the locker room, which was this ain't last year. Were don't bring that up again. This is not that team. And I think after what we saw on Sunday, that's pretty clear. Yes, all right, we're gonna go over the video now, so we'll start off with that Ridley drop in early on in the game, and it was it

really did John. I know you've said it a couple times at this point, but just why was there so much focus on just trying to get out that early and then when it didn't work out that one possession, it was like things just went off after that.

Speaker 5

Well why I wish I knew, but that's what it felt like.

Speaker 4

You had a bad week offensively the week before three field goals, he hadn't scored, so again it felt like it was almost, okay, let's put that behind us.

Speaker 5

And then when you didn't put it behind.

Speaker 4

You, you sort of compounded it by giving up a quick drive. So now you're seven to nothing. And I always go back, I never played baseball at a high level. But when you're in the World Series and you're down two games, no, everybody's trying to hit a home run. Sure swaying for the fence. That's what it has felt like a little bit. Maybe they would say they weren't pressing.

They pressed the week before, and it felt after that it was the same game in the first half, So I would sort of assume that some of the things that some of the same things were going on in terms of that pressing.

Speaker 5

That's what it sure looked like after the Ridley play in the first half.

Speaker 3

Well, since I'm doing my best Freezer Ukraine impression these days and trying to psychoanalyze this team, I do believe that if he catches that ball and they score and go up seven to nothing on their first drive, totally different time, totally game right that right there was the moment that I went oh, and I think it's the moment they went oh. And they couldn't turn it around.

Speaker 5

Because we disagree with you.

Speaker 4

But in the nineteen forty NFL Championship, this was when I was born, Kink, the Bears won seventy three nothing. Sammy both throws a pass early who was a quarterback of Washington at the time. There's a pass early gets lost in the sun. I think was Cliff Battles drops it. They asked Sammy about after the game had been different. He goes, yeah, it would have been seventy three cents.

Speaker 7

Well, right, okay, but that's a little bit different than this scenario. But I way to stick it to the people who are watching, who might be Broncos fans today, that's the highest scoring game in the NFL history.

Speaker 2

Broncos fans, they know, they're familiar with McManus, who had some issues in Denver and we was brought in here as a veteran kicker, but he had some issues. On Sunday, missed that field goal after the Ridley drop and then he had his other field goal attempt blocked. And I think for Doug talked a lot about bringing that veteran presence, the point of it being so that you don't feel you have to go for it and fourth down you're not.

You can rely on the special teams, and it's not a great way to start.

Speaker 3

I didn't think that the lack of confidence or the yips, if you want to use a golf reference extended to special teams. I figured three nothing or yeah, three nothing at that point. All right, got some points, let's go. I do think John you mentioned that they've been in the Chiefs and Texans territory what nine times, and had six points to show for it.

Speaker 5

But that's in the first half. I didn't want to count the second half because that was okay.

Speaker 3

How can this offense, you know, knowing what's there from a talent standpoint, how can they cross the midfield and have any confidence right now? They They need something good to happen, this being one of them. If they could have gotten miss field and obviously that's not McManus's fault that it got blocked, but it was his fault that he missed that first one and didn't help his team.

Speaker 2

We do want to talk about that one chance. The first score of the game was set up by a PI penalty because we thought it was going to continue to go that way because Calvin wasn naven all cup up with that ball in the end zone. There was pass interference on that call, and then it ended up being a one yard run in from there. But it almost felt like that was going to happen again. Because penalties can bail you out at times, and that's what

that was. And fortunately they were able to get a score out of that, but then they just couldn't build off of it. Wasn't a drive where you felt like you earned it and you built off of it. It was kind of like, oh, well we got points, but we don't have any confidence coming off of it.

Speaker 3

Well, I was I think a lot of people were probably thinking about that Chargers Wild Card game with the Jags trilled twenty seven to seven at the end of the half, and I was interested, anxious to see how they would come out and answer, and I was not surprised. They went down the field and got that touchdown with

the help of the penalty. I thought Doug had those guys, you know, ready to come out, you know, and they scored ten quick points yep, right, But then another phase of the game lets them down, whether it was defense or special teams, you know, Christian Kirk gets his touchdown, and then they give up the Tank Dell touchdown. I mean just every time it seemed like something good was going to happen, something bad happened.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it would have been interesting, you know, and if if had they not given up that kickoff return. Yeah, the defense had played okay. On that first drive of the second half, there was a drop that gave him the first down to beget.

Speaker 5

Off the field.

Speaker 4

It felt, frankly, a lot like the four or five games at the end of the last season around here where they came back and you're standing in the locker room saying, well, you know, I don't know that even with the win, it had been a great feeling because there was so much that had gone weird, But it.

Speaker 5

Felt like one of those games.

Speaker 4

But I think I think Trevor said it best. When you're down seventeen, the problem is one thing goes against you, and now you're back down in the hole.

Speaker 5

You give yourself no margin for air.

Speaker 4

And I wrote and thought a lot after last season about this team needed to get out of those situations where they had no margin for air because you can only live on that ledge so long, and right now they're on the wrong end of the ledge.

Speaker 3

If you will, you said more than one yesterday, Yeah, they got to get out of their own way.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about that kick, because that was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. The ball bounces around, fullback gets it in his hands and then.

Speaker 3

A twitter and fifty five pounds fullback. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2

John? Is that just something where when that goes wrong right there, when they're just see the ball on the ground, does everybody is it discipline? Do you need to stay where you are?

Speaker 5

Is it just like discipline? And it's hot? I think I had not talk to Heath fall Off the game about it, but.

Speaker 4

Your instinct, I would think as a player takes over when the ball is on the ground, Hey aere, we go get the ball and then he picks it up and he's he's sort of around one guy and everybody else has bad angles.

Speaker 5

You then had the kicker.

Speaker 4

Trying to be a little bit the last line of defense probably didn't take a great angle. But when you're depending on the kicker, that's it. It's not good at the point you're in trouble. And then and then Durnest I can't quite catch it. I think it was a bunch of little circumstances conspiring.

Speaker 5

To create a really weird play.

Speaker 4

Again, as I said earlier, I sort of get why it happens, because you have the fumble and that sort of takes everybody here, and then he bounces out here, I texted.

Speaker 3

I texted with a former Jaguars special teams coordinator who's a buddy of mine. Last night. We were going back and forth and I asked him if he had to watch the play, and he said, yeah, tough deal. You know, lost containment on the outside. There's two guys who were supposed to be responsible for that, but so many guys, you know, ran and went after the ball. And you see Jacob Harris just out of control, run right by. He could have broken down and made the tackle and

he ran right by the return man. Just I mean, what now you see him retrace his steps, but he's too far behind at that point. It was it was a momentary lapse of reason. Right everybody saw that ball hit the ground. It was like blank, go get it.

Speaker 4

But you're sort of coached from the time you're five years old, ball out, ball out, and then you're going after it.

Speaker 3

So it's but some guys are coached to go and maintain discipline and stay where you are. It's called containment. And the coach I was texting with last night said, tough deal. You know, that's gonna be a hard one for Heath to explain, but it's easy to see what happened.

Speaker 2

We'll go on to that after to Christian Kirk's touchdown, because at this point, all right, you're like, we are running out of time and they're going to do something. They go down the field old stand by Trevor to Kirk get a touchdown. I can't remember score at this point, but it was seven seventeen. You were then ten again. It's within reach again, and.

Speaker 5

With ten minutes left to plays, love.

Speaker 2

To play well within reach with if you're gonna be hustle after that, and then to immediately after this, give you a give yourself a little bit of hope, and then immediately switch over to the Tank Dell touchdown after that, it was it was a tough sequence there.

Speaker 3

Well, at this point again John was talking earlier about you kind of feel like it's, you know, last year's Jaguars, you know, the Texans all of a sudden showing some vulnerabilities in the secondary that's missing a couple of key players, and you.

Speaker 5

Feel good about it.

Speaker 3

And then here on third down, Tank Dell is wide open. It looked to me like Darius Williams made the wrong move. I mean, Trey Herndon was in that one of those two guys blew the coverage and Tank Dell it couldn't get any easier. The rookie must just think that this NFL game is easy because yesterday catch for sure.

Speaker 2

When you when you look at this, it's is it mental lapses here as well or is it just that a coverage score?

Speaker 3

Well that's look, I mean, it could be both. But that's where you start second guessing and trying to make a play, or you're not paying attention because you're so focused on it's thirty three, right. That's where the anxiety factor comes in. And guys, you know, they longtime coaches believe that if you have guys who get anxious and

key moments, they can't function at a high level. So here you've got some anxiety on the part of one of those two players, perhaps, and they melt down and forget the responsibility and both go after the guy in the flat and Tank Dell runs by himself. And that's Tank Dell who beats you for forty eight yards in the first half. You would think you would somebody would look and say, hey, I got him, Yeah, but they didn't.

Speaker 5

Yeah. It seemed more communication than anything.

Speaker 3

Yeah, not communicating because they're not thinking as clearly as you'd like them too.

Speaker 2

All right, stay with us here on jag Zam. Coming up, we got some hot takes and they may be a little bit hotter than usual this week, so we'll see after the break. Sign up your furry friend for Jaguars Official Four Legged Fan Club four Pets presented by Forever Bets Animal Hospital. Your pet will receive access to exclusive merchandise, events and sweepstakes throughout the twenty twenty three season. Visit Jaguars dot com Slash Promotions Slash four Legged Fan Club to sign up today.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think that's I think that's real.

Speaker 6

I do. I think that's real.

Speaker 5

And and.

Speaker 6

You know, you know, I've been around this game too long to know that you can't can't live in the past, or you're gonna you're gonna fail in the future. And you know, we've just got to focus one.

Speaker 3

Day at a time.

Speaker 6

We got to get better each day and can't worry about next week or the week after, can't worry about the London trip coming up. We can't, you know, we just got to focus in on on the week at hand. And and you know that that that part it starts with me and making sure that the guys are you know, hearing that message. You know, allowed them to clear for me, and we'll make sure that they get that message.

Speaker 2

I cannot rely on the past, and last year's team is not this year's team. Welcome back to Jags am in the Hundai Studios presented by Carshield. Today, we're going to get to our hot takes because things are not where we expected them to be. So, Brian, what's your hot talk? Now?

Speaker 3

I'm going to go back to the past because it looks to me like this team is relying offensively way too much on Calvin Ridley, and I would like to see them go back to what was working for them last year, which was Christian Kirk Evan Ingram. I know Zay Jones is injured. He could be back this week, likely against the Bills. Put Calvin Ridley, if you have to, into Zay Jones' role, but it just my sense is they are forcing the ball to him. He's there, eleven

million dollar guy, he's done that game breaking guy. It didn't work and he had a tremendous first half against the Colts, and then since then it's been disappointed and maybe he's not ready for it yet, and maybe they were all just assuming, well, he was so good in training camp and so good in the preseason that he'll just jump right into it. Maybe he needs more time to be ready to go after being off for more

than a year and a half. I say put him on the side, right, make him your second or third option, not your first, and take the offense back to where Trevor was clearly comfortable last year and everything seemed to work better. It just feels to me like they're forcing that issue because they've got him, and that if you want to get this offense, which right now you could call jumpy, skittish, discombobulated, choose your adjective. Calm everything down,

do what you know. Works to me, that's Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram in zig jumps.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 4

I thought they maybe tried to calm it down a little bit. I said earlier. The way they were running, yeah, is usually the formula forgetting things calm, And that's what was sort of weird. I went back and watched the game this morning, and it was a weird imbalance to that where hey, we could run they six seven yards on first down and usually that's where you, hey, hey, get things going.

Speaker 5

I agree with Calvin.

Speaker 4

I don't know if it's as much rust as much as just this incredible desire to do it right, which maybe that's russ I don't know, but I think he wants so much to excel and so much to succeed and feels like he can and you just you know, but I don't. I don't disagree. Something along the lines of getting the Christian back to where he's sort of the guy. Uh maybe an element of that.

Speaker 3

Well, take what worked for you and add to it, as opposed to redefine it with Calvin, which is what it feels like they have done because we know what these other guys are capable of doing. And again, I don't know whether it's rust or not either, but it does feel like Calvin wants to score on every single play and that's just that's not the way this offense works.

And I do agree the running game should normally bring everything back down to earth a little bit, but this is a past first team, So from a passing perspective, I think Kirk and Grimmer the.

Speaker 2

Way to go, and it's about setting the offense up to be successful and Calvin up to be successful because he is that deep threat. He's dropping balls for some of these catches, but he's always double covered, so somebody else has to be open at this point. And yes, we do expect war from him because we know he's physically able to make crazy catches in that situation, but he should be more wide open when we're throwing to him, especially when he's in a new offense like Trevor and

those guys have been here, Calvin has not. So yes, we know he can do crazy things, but this is, you know, a couple games into a new regime.

Speaker 3

And then there's also the added value of the offensive line is not giving him time. And there was Christian Kirk wide open right on a third down in the third quarter and he didn't have time to deliver it because Sheldon Rankins was bearing down on him. So Kurt Hinnisch was he mistake? Who? Kurt Hinnisch looked like Howie Long yesterday?

Speaker 2

Oh, there's lots of things going on. His mom's gonna call you know you can, John, what's your hot take for?

Speaker 5

You don't want to turn which with Sunday is in and it's a little worrisome.

Speaker 4

Week three is starting to get to that point in the season where teams have game planned you it can be sort of what is coming up? And this felt like a game in a lot of ways where it was a wheels off game. I don't think that's what that is for this team, I believe, particularly because of Doug Peterson. He has been so good in his career even when teams go through a bad stretch. Think about Philly.

I mean his last two playoff appearances in Philly, they fought and scratched and clawed their way through the NFCS and made the playoffs last year.

Speaker 5

Very similar.

Speaker 4

He knows how to coach in this situation where things are sort of going squirrely and I think there's too much I hate saying this, too much talent for that to happen. But it is a game that felt like if things go off the rails, you look back and go, Okay, there it was.

Speaker 5

I don't think that's what it was.

Speaker 4

But they have to really focus now to not have that be that game.

Speaker 3

Hey, look, you can go and find championship caliber teams. Tom Coughlin's first Giants Super Bowl team, where there was some infighting and things weren't feeling good and they turned it around, made the playoffs as a wild card, and won the Super Bowl. Great teams have had difficult moments like this. We have yet to see whether that will

happen here. But you have faith in Doug Peterson because he's been here before that he can get this thing turned around, and faith in the quarterback because you know what he's capable of doing. It's just I think people are anxious about it because, like I thought this was supposed to be different. We all thought this was supposed.

Speaker 5

It's fair to be Doug said yesterday, this is gonna be criticism, and it's.

Speaker 3

Fair sometimes you know, the triumph is on the other side of the university. Sure, and hopefully that's the case here. Is that we look back at this and go, do you remember when we thought this thing was coming apart and the wheels were falling off and they turned it around.

Speaker 2

We'll see for me, this is when culture comes into key, right, Culture and character. You talk about culture. It's easy culture when you're winning and things are on the upside. But when you know things get hard, you're gonna see the true character of people. And I think we all have

faith about this building. The culture is real and I think they will be able to turn it around, but it's a very telling if they can't, because you think you building a good culture and things don't go the way you want, and then oh maybe I don't have the same kind of culture character as I did beforehand, So that will be a big deal. My hot take is about the physicality of this football team. I don't

think they've been tough enough. And I think that goes mentally and physically, but physically, I just wanna see them hit some people right the travisy Tan and Tank are probably the only people I say think are as physical as they need to be right now. The defense has been playing above caliber, but yesterday they just didn't do what they needed to do. And that goes to the offensive line as well. We know that's an issue for

this team. They need to be tougher. They need to protect Trevor and I think the wide receivers as well, everybody, no one's exempt. The coaching as well. They need to figure out a way to toughen them up. And I don't know how you do that. If it's if it's if it's I think it's within them. But is is that something physical that needs to change. Is it a mentality for this team? Is in football? Can it come down to just being not tough enough fit points?

Speaker 3

I think to me, just to take a derivative of what you're saying, is it's a mental toughness issue. You know, when you get into the third quarter and all right, you know, now you're only down you know, seventeen ten, you know, that's when you have to sharpen up. That's when every little detail matters. And you can't have a five yard penalty that takes third and one to third and six. You can't have a drop pass, you can't have mistackles, and they did not do a good job

in key situations. In fact, the specific situation was on that seven yard run that set up the third down and three play. They had Damon here's at the goal line. They had them a yard behind, and they let him squirt through for six yards on first down. You can't

have that. That's where the toughness issue comes in. And you can go, well, that's physical toughness because the act of getting him on the ground, but it's also a mental toughness and rallying to the ball and pulling, bite and scratching whatever it takes to get that guy on the ground for a short game, not to set up that big deep shot.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I didn't see.

Speaker 4

I thought the running early to me showed more quote toughness on the offensive line.

Speaker 5

Maybe we'd seen.

Speaker 4

I always hesitate to question physical toughness because it's you know, it's such a physical game that I think most guys are tough, and I think that's the I go with more the Maybe it is mental toughness in the big moments, just that that inability to make the.

Speaker 5

Big play when it matters. It's what the league's about.

Speaker 4

And when you're playing like they are right now, then you're not doing that in those moments.

Speaker 3

Well, we all know athletes, no matter the sport, right who in the biggest moment rise to the occasion. And that's not every athlete is that way. You need a couple of guys who are that way, and that's what this team needs to get through that mentality of oh, this is when it's tough, Well let's go. This is what we're paying for, right.

Speaker 2

Have to thrive in the moments when if things are the hardest. All right, stay with us. We'll preview the rest of this week coming up after the break Man Jags fans. If you want customized Jaguarsh furniture for your home, check out zipchare dot com to browse all customizable options. Zip Chair is furniture for fans. Want to take a moment now to thank Jea's frontline teams for the critical

services they provide to this community. Today we like to recognize Jee's frontline team and the game winners and give a special shout out to Jea's commercial accounts team. I feel a little bit differently about how the Jags should address things this week. I think last week I was like,

all right, watch the film, but move on quickly. I feel this week they really need to sit in it, marinate in it, feel what this is, and figure out how to fix it and start over, because you can't just continue on the way things are going right now.

Speaker 3

I wish they had the plane ride today, right, Yeah, I mean eight hours sitting on a plane with nothing to do and still within that twenty four hour rule, right, because you want guys to let it go. I don't think they're gonna be able let it go. I mean, I think they can talk about moving on as much as you want, but I think everybody individually is going to be questioning themselves to some degree, what can I do better? How do I do my job better this week?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 4

I think Trevor sort of defined it in his post game. He went back to the theme a couple of times, saying, you know, we're to the point where it's not okay, And I think that was more of a message maybe to himself, maybe to everybody that, look, we keep talking about.

Speaker 5

Playing big in these moments. At some point you got to do it.

Speaker 4

And it's it's not okay to be the one guy out of the eleven who comes off the field and says my bad. And that's sort of a juvenile way of saying it. But you know, it's not hey, we need all eleven now, guys, it's we're one and two and this wasn't good enough.

Speaker 5

Until they show they're not. This is what they are. So let's go to London.

Speaker 2

This is ah we w we are heading to London later this week. This is certainly gonna be a defining game, and it's up to them whether it's a defining moment that they turn around or a defining moment and they continue on this way. We'll go over things some more on Wednesday here on jags Amne. We'll see you then.

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