'12 kids, 14 kids..as many kids as I can': What is pronatalism?
May 09, 2025•20 min
Episode description
Lucy Watson meets Simone and Malcolm Collins, leaders of America's pronatalist movement, which is gaining traction in the White House, thanks to father of 14 Elon Musk.
Why do they want so many children and what is the Trump administration doing to aide their cause?
Why do they want so many children and what is the Trump administration doing to aide their cause?
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