The Gang Knocks The Dust/Rust Off

[SPEAKER_01]: B. Embarrasses, illiterate or marginally literate adults. [SPEAKER_01]: These low literacy and retention rates of wide-ranging consequences, Philadelphia ranks ninety-second out of the hundred largest U.S. [SPEAKER_01]: cities and educational attainment, seventeen point four percent.

[SPEAKER_01]: Adult Philadelphia's an estimated two hundred and twenty-five thousand do not have a high school diploma compared to ten point five percent in Pennsylvania at large and only twenty-eight percent of Philadelphia's twenty-five and older have a bachelor's degree or higher. [SPEAKER_01]: and had only Cleveland and Detroit, and six percent behind the national average.

[SPEAKER_01]: The literacy crisis in Philadelphia's public schools produces adults who struggle to read Philadelphia ranks at the bottom among large American cities in reading proficiency, according to recent federal data, roughly twenty-two percent of Philadelphia's age sixteen and older, lack the most basic literacy skills, fifty-two percent of Philadelphia and adults are functionally illiterate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chief Justin O. Kaka says, I started looking up best Philadelphia burns and AI assumed I was talking about fans lighting the city on fire after their Super Bowl win. [SPEAKER_01]: He also says, one of the most memorable things about Philly is a show that takes place in Bel Air. [SPEAKER_01]: And finally, the city has so few sports icons that they build statues for fictional boxers. [SPEAKER_00]: Woo, woo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great to be back with you, buddy. [SPEAKER_01]: We've obviously kept in close contact in these last several weeks and months that we haven't been doing the show, but you know, it's time to time to get back at, time to get after it and talk about the chiefs.

[SPEAKER_00]: As the chiefs are scraping the rust off and are in training camp this week, so to are we shaking the rust off and getting back [SPEAKER_00]: behind the microphone and to kick it off, we just have a, you know, a pretty much a welcome back, you know, shake the rust off. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the teams out there, they're doing the seven on sevens. [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing the one on one drills on the side. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're doing some some light work.

[SPEAKER_00]: The offense is getting out there. [SPEAKER_00]: The defense is getting out there. [SPEAKER_00]: But they're not out there, you know, hitting each other as hard as they can. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not doing fully padded practices. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, [SPEAKER_00]: This is not that kind of show where we're going to get some white work in here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just get us warm back up, you know, just to you know, work ourselves back in a shape, you know, shed some of the the off season pounds, get into the best shapes of our lives and continue to bring a great choose podcast content every week for the rest of the season or at least that's the plan.

[SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: we do have a great episode all that being said we have news is is and we're going to talk about some offseason transactions since we took a little break the podcast for various reasons related to an unrelated football so we're going to hit those two main topics and uh... you know call it a day you know uh... hit the showers early time to get back into the swing of things we're not going to go too crazy but it's good to get an episode under the bill let's hit

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, to kick this off, we got to talk about Rishi Rice. [SPEAKER_00]: This was something that sort of came out a lot of field, just a couple of weeks ago, Rishi Rice. [SPEAKER_00]: We had heard kind of all off season that, oh, we don't know when the legal proceedings are going to get resolved, this obviously being his criminal reckless driving case involving the incident that happened to Dallas earlier this off season.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he, [SPEAKER_00]: Please guilty kind of out of the blue receives a five year probationary sentence with thirty days in jail. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to run through this and you can comment at the end if you have any questions for the resident lawyer on this podcast of the bus. [SPEAKER_00]: So he is going to be supervised by probation, but what he actually has is what's called the deferred sentence or a suspended sentence.

[SPEAKER_00]: What this means is, even though he's plugged guilty to a felony, he hasn't been sentenced for a felony. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you might be asking if he hasn't been sentenced, what's thirty days of jail? [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's doing thirty days of jail as a condition of his supervision, not as a sentence. [SPEAKER_00]: So the way that that works is if I agree to [SPEAKER_00]: supervision, probation, or a different sentence. [SPEAKER_00]: I can make you do certain things.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can make you do community service. [SPEAKER_00]: I can make you pay back for institution. [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times, you can add jail. [SPEAKER_00]: A certain amount of jail is a condition of probation. [SPEAKER_00]: So what that means is in order to fulfill the terms of a supervision, he has spent thirty days of jail. [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like that's going to be probably served in chunks broken up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm sure they're working on [SPEAKER_01]: fifteen weekends. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could be fifteen weekends. [SPEAKER_00]: It could be thirty single days. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like when you've got the means to travel and the money to travel, although after the civil case, who knows how much we're just going to have left in the bank after paying as lawyers for getting this sweet deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: The point is it's not going to affect anything that he's doing professionally the thirty days of jail is going to be served at a time and date mutually agreeable to the parties and so they'll be able to work that out so he's serving that probably in the off season or over the next couple of off seasons. [SPEAKER_00]: This five year term of supervision that means that he is going to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Potentially supervised for five years, although it's very common for these types of agreements to result in early termination. [SPEAKER_00]: What somebody has done all of the conditions of their supervision? [SPEAKER_00]: It's very common for them to come to the court and to the prosecutor and say, well, I did everything you wanted me to do. [SPEAKER_00]: Do I really have to just check in with my probation officer every month for the next two years?

[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody really wants that. [SPEAKER_00]: The DAs usually don't want it. [SPEAKER_00]: The probation officer certainly don't want it. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have time for that. [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, she's not going to want to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's very likely that he'll be able to get early termination from this provided that he gets everything done that he needs to get done.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if he does everything he's supposed to do, the glorious part of a deferred sentence is that if he does everything he's supposed to do, the case goes off of the record. [SPEAKER_00]: This actually is what happened with [SPEAKER_00]: just to throw back to Tyre Kill when he was in college. [SPEAKER_00]: He also received a deferred sentence, which is why Tyre Kill never has a conviction, never had a conviction for the incident involving his girlfriend in college.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's because he too got it deferred sentence and he was able to complete that. [SPEAKER_00]: And so even though Rashiz pled guilty to a felony, that's not going to go on his record unless [SPEAKER_00]: He screws up on his supervision and he doesn't get done what he needs to get done. [SPEAKER_00]: If he gets a new crime, for example, that would violate his probation.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then if that were to be the case, then the DA could go to the court and say, well, this guy committed a new crime or something like that, we're going to revoke his different sentence and then the felony conviction would enter into his record. [SPEAKER_00]: None of this has anything to do with the NFL's disciplinary policy. [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to see what discipline the NFL imposes. [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like [SPEAKER_00]: It could be as few as one or two games.

[SPEAKER_00]: It could be as many as six games. [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably going to fall somewhere in that range. [SPEAKER_00]: It seems pretty unlikely that it's going to be more than six. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we can joke about Roger hating the chiefs. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, slapping a few with twelve games suspension.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the end of all really painted themselves into a corner when they gave a [SPEAKER_00]: you know, serial rapists, the Sean Watson and Eleven game suspension, because that was like the worst thing someone could possibly do and still play in the NFL, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a murder somebody, you're gonna be a prison.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not, you know, so this is really the worst thing that somebody could feasibly do and remain in the NFL and he got an Eleven game suspension for that. [SPEAKER_00]: So that kind of caps the upper end of what they could reasonably suspend Rishi for. [SPEAKER_00]: I do think that, you know, hopefully it'll just be a couple of games and [SPEAKER_00]: You know, by all accounts, he's handled this situation well. [SPEAKER_00]: He's already done a lot of community service.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was an article in the Kansas State Star last week that he hasn't paid the victims yet in connection with the civil judgment. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how that develops. [SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't have anything to do with [SPEAKER_00]: his criminal case. [SPEAKER_01]: So if you remember, that charge in the civil one was pretty hefty. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, look, he's on his rookie deal.

[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that he's an NFL player, but with all the different, you know, the ways that the money gets tied up in the agents and he gets game checks. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they just cut him a check for millions of dollars right up front. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's perfectly understandable if he doesn't have whatever it was. [SPEAKER_01]: A hundred thousand or a million, it was some kind of round large number like that that he was supposed to pay.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I saw that article as well. [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't Korean get, was it eleven games also or eight or it was maybe half season, maybe it's eight. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it. [SPEAKER_01]: And that was like, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that I don't know the compare it's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about to Sean with eleven and the Korean with eight. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that's that's a wide one was never charged for that by the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, he was actually he was never even permanently charged for that incident. [SPEAKER_01]: But he didn't say he brutally. [SPEAKER_00]: And you know that's enough. [SPEAKER_00]: The framing is always important, but then again, Tyre Kill had a reporting of him saying, you should be afraid of me too, bitch. [SPEAKER_00]: She would play it on national television during the NFL draft.

[SPEAKER_00]: It would be easy to say, optics drive disciplinary policy in the NFL, except [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was horrible optics and he didn't get suspended. [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing drives the disciplinary policy. [SPEAKER_00]: It's completely arbitrary and there's no transparency at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so we'll see, Rishi might never play in the NFL again, but hopefully he will be out there with the chiefs, at least, you know, pretty early on in the season and be able to be a contributor this year. [SPEAKER_00]: The good news is he's healthy and I'm sure they'll work it out so that [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever this suspension is, you know, I'm sure that the cheese for trying to get some clarity on what that will be before the season kicks off.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't think it would be like, come down late in the year, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that would be the worst-case scenario. [SPEAKER_01]: It was if they given the last six games or something. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem like there's any need for, I mean, this has been going on for what now a year and a half because it was last March of twenty four. [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the NFL has had sixteen months to investigate seventeen months to investigate this and it's not [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I should have been second guest myself. [SPEAKER_00]: The point is, there's not a lot to this, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's on video, he admitted that he was driving. [SPEAKER_00]: There's not a lot to investigate.

[SPEAKER_00]: So again, setting aside the fact that the NFL is just ordinary process is entirely opaque and maybe the weeds are just isn't responding to them right now on what the, so they have to wait until they get a clear answer. [SPEAKER_01]: The eight balls said shake again later. [SPEAKER_00]: They're waiting to see if she is in the FC files.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're waiting for the news drop, you know, when that list finally gets released, they're going to say, uh, yeah, he could serve two games, no member, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, in other Aussies and news, big trade, chiefs kick left guard Jotunni to the bears. [SPEAKER_00]: This one was [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say surprising because obviously Joe was getting up there in age. [SPEAKER_00]: He had a very expensive contract.

[SPEAKER_00]: The chief says we will talk about had some of their own homegrown players including another guard that they wanted to pay top market extensions to. [SPEAKER_00]: This was certainly a blow to the team. [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about at the end of last season. [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, we saw how it played out in the Super Bowl, not well. [SPEAKER_00]: But we talked about Joe Tunis, a littleifying himself, potentially, is the greatest left guard in NFL history.

[SPEAKER_00]: If he had gone to and won a Super Bowl, kicking out and playing left tackle as a career guard, what a boon that would be for his legacy. [SPEAKER_00]: And the result of the Super Bowl tarnish is that a little bit. [SPEAKER_00]: How are you feeling about Jotunis exit to the Chicago Bay? [SPEAKER_01]: Result to the Super Bowl. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's Super Bowl. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't recall what you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_01]: However, yeah, I mean, this was basically, I think most people kind of broke this down as the chiefs chose between trace myth and Jotunis. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you obviously could not have the two highest paid guards in the NFL on your line that already has the highest paid center in the NFL, just not [SPEAKER_01]: Not economically feasible and the chiefs had a lot of mouths to feed this offseason.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's still, you know, we'll talk about kind of Trent McDuffie and if that's possible to get done anytime soon. [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, the economics just just weren't really going to work and, you know, they traded him for a fourth rounder in next year's draft, which is not really [SPEAKER_01]: A significant return, but it's not nothing either. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a seventh rounder. [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't cut him. [SPEAKER_01]: They at least got some value back for him.

[SPEAKER_01]: They traded him to the NFC to a team that does not really threaten their standing in the NFL by any means. [SPEAKER_01]: I love Joe Tune. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he was one of the best offensive linemen in a franchise that's had many. [SPEAKER_01]: great offensive lineman in the course of the years for Kansas City, but it was time. [SPEAKER_01]: He was a little bit older.

[SPEAKER_01]: If the Chiefs had chosen Joe Tuney over trace myth, I do think that there would have been some questioning just based on his age. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's hard to play high level in the NFL into your thirties. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's just hard to do for anybody. [SPEAKER_01]: And so they had to make the hard choice. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wish them all the best. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the deal kind of worked out for everybody involved.

[SPEAKER_01]: It certainly is one of the best for agent signings in chief history. [SPEAKER_01]: He was an unbelievable monster in the four years he was here. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, hats off to him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: And, I mean, adding two super warings to his chest of rings that he occurred with the Patriots before he came over as a free agent with the chiefs. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the chiefs trade him to a former a former chief rivals the GM there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it should be an organization that has [SPEAKER_00]: some familiarity in terms of what he's walking into. [SPEAKER_00]: I know, you know, Ryan Polls obviously took some members of the Chiefs front office with him and I'm sure they're going to build up the coaching staff there. [SPEAKER_00]: There's, there's going to be some, some Kansas city ties there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully Joe will feel right at home and he's going to team with, you know, let's not forget the number one overall pick from last year, Caleb Williams. [SPEAKER_00]: So it would be really interesting to see [SPEAKER_00]: how that team plays out and obviously a top-notch new coach coming off from Detroit, Ben Johnson.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm really excited, actually, which feels weird to say about the Chicago Bears, who have never had a four thousand yard passer in the entire history of their franchise and you know, haven't won a super bowl since the eighty five bears. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually pretty interested to see how this Bears team plays out and wish show all the best.

[SPEAKER_00]: So speaking of the two homegrown guys, the chiefs needed to pay and needed to clear Jotuni salary in order to be able to pay, Trace Smith and George Carloftas both get four year extensions here in the last week. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't think I did these were huge surprise. [SPEAKER_00]: We knew the chiefs were likely to pay Trace Smith.

[SPEAKER_00]: And while George Carloftas was maybe a little bit more surprising in that there wasn't quite as much buzz around it for [SPEAKER_00]: you know, as long as there was retracement. [SPEAKER_00]: Both of these guys are really good players who [SPEAKER_00]: you would want the chiefs to resign, and you would want them to be chiefs for life.

[SPEAKER_00]: And two very different stories, obviously, Trace Smith, a very highly regarded college prospect, who everybody knew could play ball, but people were really scared of medically and really worried that he wasn't going to be able to be healthy enough with his heart condition, to be able to compete in NFL and have the success that he's had.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then George Carlottis, I mean, a first round pick along with Tramik Duffy in that [SPEAKER_00]: huge franchise-training draft, you know, three years ago, both of these guys have been really solid, really at times spectacular players. [SPEAKER_00]: The chiefs obviously Carloft has took over that playoff game with the three sacks just in this last playoff run. [SPEAKER_00]: Trace myth has developed into one of the best guards in the league.

[SPEAKER_00]: Were you surprised by these or surprised by the money on either of these contract extensions? [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Carloftist extension gets a little bit of sticker shock at first until they dropped the important distinction that he does still keep the fourth and fifth years on his deal in place before the four-year extension.

[SPEAKER_01]: So what it really works out to is six years and a hundred and five million left on his contract, which is seventeen and a half A.V. [SPEAKER_01]: Which is perfectly reasonable. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not a

[SPEAKER_01]: his production is interesting because he busses ass and and he's always you know around the play but he's not he doesn't show up in the box score as much as someone that he would want to pay in a lead amount of money but they didn't pay in a lead amount of money so that works out that's great um he's a really good cog on the defensive line you need to solidify some guys on that line that have you know kind of been there and done that and so his money at first I think it was the the eighty eight number when they first dropped before your extension where I was like oh that's a

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a bit steep for Carl office, but then it stretches out and it makes a lot of sense. [SPEAKER_01]: Trace Smith was exactly where, twenty-three and a half A.V.s, you know, four years, ninety-four million. [SPEAKER_01]: That is right online. [SPEAKER_01]: I think SpotRack even had that as the projected extension for him before he signed that. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, nothing, nothing out of the ordinary there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I did think that once they traded Tunee that they were going to walk up Smith long-term, that makes sense. [SPEAKER_01]: It would be crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: to get rid of both of them or to not be able to retain trace myth and let them walk or anything like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, both these deals were pretty boilerplate, but that's what when you're building championships, you know, you just, you take the singles when they come and you make sure that you do the right trends that you don't get yourself into a situation where your first round draft pick and your start, edge rusher are both holding out coming into training camp like certain other [SPEAKER_01]: Franchise. [SPEAKER_00]: So the F.C. [SPEAKER_01]: contenders. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: Except they haven't contended in four years. [SPEAKER_01]: They're, uh, you know, but either way, it was good. [SPEAKER_01]: It was good. [SPEAKER_01]: Good move to get both those guys locked up. [SPEAKER_00]: Love it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit, I'm not surprised that the chief decided to retain Terry Smith, but obviously there is a big gap between getting the production you're getting for the salary of a six round pick on a rookie contract versus yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: paying the highest pay, making him the highest big guard, right guard in the league. [SPEAKER_00]: And so obviously there's a big gap there. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, as we'll discuss when we get a training camp, hype, you know, the chiefs did just draft a rookie left tack on the first round in Josh Simmons.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, if you're going to have top of the market deals at center and right guard, [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you can find some savings in other spots along the offensive line and you better you know the exactly and the the way that the timeline of this contract works is you know obviously any deal in the NFL is you really realistically like a two or three year deal

[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time the chiefs are ready to pay Josh Simmons, and we all hope that they will want to pay Josh Simmons. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, this, this contract that they've given a trace myth will not be an obstacle to that when the time comes to pay Josh Simmons. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not surprising and it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a part of the offensive line that you want to have continuity and obviously this is the second time in my home's career that the Chiefs have had a really tough offensive line showing in a postseason game. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, both times the Chiefs have reacted very strongly to that. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the first time it had great results, the Chiefs bounce back and [SPEAKER_00]: You know, within three years, it won back to back Super Bowls.

[SPEAKER_00]: After they remat the offensive line following the Tampa Super Bowl, and we can only hope that this revamp will be as successful. [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of Super Bowls and the Chiefs, we did happy trails to a former chief, the Honey Badger Tyrant Matthew retiring from the NFL at age thirty three. [SPEAKER_00]: Not a huge shock. [SPEAKER_00]: I actually was surprised at how surprised people were. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, like third one put it.

[SPEAKER_00]: is old for an NFL player, especially one that's taken as much punishment as Tyron has, you know, a guy that that is not huge and has when he wants to hit people very hard, you know, play the last couple of seasons, after leaving the chiefs down in New Orleans, which [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, he's probably not a very fun experience. [SPEAKER_00]: I know that's where he's from, but like on the field, being a part of that organization, they've been through a couple of head coaches.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have not had a lot of success on the field. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really that surprised that Tyron decided to hang it up. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was surprised that people were surprised by it. [SPEAKER_00]: If that makes sense. [SPEAKER_01]: It does, and I was similarly when he announced his retirement, I was like, yeah, that makes sense. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I read all of these like, oh, wow, I was like, not really.

[SPEAKER_01]: And also the Saints are such a disaster right now, especially, you know, Derrick Carl walked away from football and started playing for the Saints. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they've had two other guys also retire in this offseason before Matthew. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he was their fourth retirement. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he went back to home in Louisiana.

[SPEAKER_01]: He probably decided like, oh, I should just use all my millions of dollars and hang out at home and like I don't need to play in the NFL anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if he had, you know, gone and signed with the Rams or someone like that. [SPEAKER_01]: If he had, you know, been away from his home still on a successful franchise, if he might still be kind of chasing the dream. [SPEAKER_01]: But he was like, oh, so football kind of sucks now.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to be a millionaire. [SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to be at home. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna walk away. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was [SPEAKER_01]: perfectly reasonable by him. [SPEAKER_01]: Happy trails for sure. [SPEAKER_01]: I know, you know, the ending was a little weird with the Twitter stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of people, he said the chiefs were the most toxic fan base in sports. [SPEAKER_01]: He was emotional.

[SPEAKER_01]: We were emotional. [SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody was kind of ready to break up like him and the chiefs. [SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, when you look back on it, you know, he's a champ. [SPEAKER_01]: He brought the championship slagger back to the chiefs and I mean, I'll forever be grateful that the chiefs decided to bring him as one of their big money for agent moves in the anti-read air.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's one of the biggest, you know, biggest decisions they ever made and it was nothing but good. [SPEAKER_01]: It worked out really well. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was hugely successful, a hugely successful free agent signing. [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny that you mentioned tyrants online presence because I do remember we were doing the podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: Tyrant followed me on Twitter for a while.

[SPEAKER_00]: For probably about seven or eight months and I think he may be popped that follow. [SPEAKER_00]: during the off season and then once we got it about week three yeah of his last season with the chiefs you know I was inevitably you were yourself on Twitter you guys know that my social media presence during games extremely toxic sometimes by design and other times just [SPEAKER_00]: because that's how I'm feeling exactly right.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he popped that unfold but pretty quick but he was he's obviously he's a controversial and yeah he's a controversial figure in the history of the NFL and in the history of the cheese but he is hilarious and I honestly like you know I with the exception of the the short period of time in there where [SPEAKER_00]: his presence was, do you remember when he rage quit, Madden took a stirique? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I had forgotten about that. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, of course.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wreaked beat him like if you do nothing and he rage quit and he was like, we thought he was basically like, you know, I mean borderline threatening tyreeks life on your own. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know why this is like he just reminding you of this. [SPEAKER_00]: He is, it just came to me while we were talking. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was wild.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he brought the [SPEAKER_00]: the chaotic energy that when it's going well, you really love to have. [SPEAKER_00]: But when it's not going well, you really fear for the safety of the player and the other players in the locker room. [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, frankly, anyone involved in the whole operation, you know, the fans seeing him in the stadium, you just never really knew what was going to happen with Tyram Matthew.

[SPEAKER_00]: And most of the time, that was a fun quality to enjoy his hands. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair. [SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely fair. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's wrap up this new segment with training camp. [SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned the chiefs are back in St. [SPEAKER_00]: Joe kicking off the dust, the rust, whatever, dust rust, et cetera. [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually kind of funny that both of those are accepted terms, you know, that's gross.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're kicking off the dust and the rust, insane Joseph at training camp were two days in as we said here recording this and I thought it would be fun for us to just kind of go through some of the early training camp pipe stories. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you have any that that jump out on the defensive side, feel free to pop in, but I was going through making my list here and I only came up with guys on the offensive side of the ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: People have been covering it very well. [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really seen a defensive standout. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, guys are making a place, but I think we can stick with the guys that we've known it so far. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start with Josh Simmons. [SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned him obviously the choose first round pick from this last year who before his injury was widely regarded as the best tackle prospect in this class.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been two days, but like he looks the part so far. [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's been very impressed with him.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Andy Reed is not going to be effusive about rookie players, but what you [SPEAKER_00]: what you have to take with Andy is not what he's saying at the podium, but who he's giving playing time to and you know, we saw it when Creed Humphrey came out and and Trace Myth II, you know, these guys were especially Trace Myth, you know, as a sixth rounder. [SPEAKER_00]: people were saying, you know, I mean, Andy really is often flying guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like he wants an experienced guy in there and it's like, you know, if you look at Andy's history, like he will play, he will start reviews on the offensive line if he thinks they can handle it. [SPEAKER_00]: Jason Kelsey was famously a six round, you know, rookie center that played his full rookie season and then went on to have a whole thing career. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, sometimes you just know and [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Juan Taylor is on the pub right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the chiefs are out at tackle. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's telling that Josh Simmons is getting all these reps with the ones through two days. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's encouraging that he looks as good as he does this early in camp. [SPEAKER_01]: I agree, a hundred percent. [SPEAKER_01]: I also think that it's just encouraging from a health perspective. [SPEAKER_01]: He regardless of his ability. [SPEAKER_01]: I loved to hear that he looks strong and he looks good and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: They would not be playing him these snaps if they had any concerns about his health, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, regardless of performance, they would just be holding them back, taking it's they always take it careful about stuff like this and just just the fact that they are with a guy like Jalen Moore on the roster that they certainly could have slotted in. [SPEAKER_01]: at left tackle and then done something else over right tackle.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, they had options. [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have to play Justin with with ones here. [SPEAKER_01]: They did. [SPEAKER_01]: And so to me, you know, I think I'm a little weary of camp hype in general, just after so many years of being sold a false bag of goods, but that's neither there. [SPEAKER_01]: So I am most encouraged about the health there, but of course he's a beast. [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, they said, you know, they're great on him was very, very high.

[SPEAKER_01]: The Chiefs have been hyped about the Josh Simmons Pig since day one, and this is not doing anything to change that. [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not at all. [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of rookie hype, this one is at the opposite of the spectrum. [SPEAKER_00]: You've got the first round pick. [SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got the seventh round rookie running backs. [SPEAKER_00]: Not me if you've heard it before, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Beach taking running back in the seventh round the last round of the graph. [SPEAKER_00]: This one is rookie running back for short Smith working with ones. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a couple of days in the training camp already getting some reps with the starting offense. [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, [SPEAKER_00]: This is mostly from the fantasy guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen you know a ton of quote unquote serious NFL pundits talking up for Shardsmith quite yet, but we've seen some clips of him working out of the backfield former wide receiver converted to running back and you know he's [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking like Jerk McKinnon out there, you know, like the chiefs have been missing that element since Jerk McKinnon left the team.

[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have him last year, you know, that we kind of thought maybe break glass case emergency and never materialized. [SPEAKER_00]: And now you've got research, but coming in with some receding chops, it was some breakaway speed, which is something that this backfield has sorely lacked. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, since Jamal Charles retired, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, we talk about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like almost every year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not to say, I mean, Pacheco has good straight line speed if he can get, you know, to the second level and, you know, once chasing him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_00]: And he, you know, he broke off that forty fifty yard touchdown against the jets a couple years ago. [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen it, but it's just not, you know, consistent home run threat. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's not going to take a ball out of the backfield and take it to the house probably.

[SPEAKER_00]: right now. [SPEAKER_00]: He might break tackle and outrun everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: But this is an element that the chiefs offense, again, has lacked really since McKinnan was on the team. [SPEAKER_00]: Or I guess you could say, you know, even going back to Amy Williams, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like having a guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield and then take it to the house is something that the chiefs have not had very often.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really intriguing to me that for sure, it's myth is showing those chops early on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will say it's been a long three hundred sixty five days since we were doing training camp coverage in twenty twenty four so I I forgive you for not remembering but I mean doesn't it's just sound like generic prints doesn't sound like the same you know write up and I mean other than undrafted versus seventh round but like my my my my my my my worry here is just that is just it's this whole like

[SPEAKER_01]: The idea of a player is a lot better than the actual player and life course. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: And that we wouldn't be fans if we didn't look at a guy and wonder what the ceiling would look like. [SPEAKER_01]: And the ceiling for him is honestly making the fifty-three-man roster. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like that's a huge win for a seventh round pick. [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about that every year.

[SPEAKER_01]: If the seventh round pick, you know, your hit rate on those guys even making the final fifty-three is not great. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, step one is get him within the top four of the running backs on the roster. [SPEAKER_01]: And then step two is get him the ball in the open field and see what he can do. [SPEAKER_01]: And I do like the converted wide receiver.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that always makes for an interesting and a dynamic speed element that other kind of bigger running backs don't possess. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if they can get that guy with some good looks and kind of some some nice easy completions and let him let him rip one, it would be a lot of fun. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I'm, I'm, again, I'm probably a little wet blanket here, but I'm just weary about camp hype for guys that we've never seen play NFL football before.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing, you know, if they said, you know, Travis comes in looking twenty five pounds have it or lighter or whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's, I get it. [SPEAKER_01]: Like we know, you know, what his, what his worth is on the field already, but yeah, we'll see how this one goes. [SPEAKER_00]: This is not really news given his pending discipline from the NFL. [SPEAKER_00]: Rishi Rice dominating the targets early in camp.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you had on the first day camp six targets and nobody else have more than two from the homes. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's probably not super surprising that they're getting the work in since they may not have a chance to do that once the season starts for a couple of games. [SPEAKER_00]: But [SPEAKER_00]: Man, cheese really missed a few of that rice last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it is so encouraging after the way he went down that he appears to be completely fully healthy and ready to go from a physical standpoint. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, if you think back to the end of his rookie year, he was doing really well. [SPEAKER_01]: He was the leading receiver on the team. [SPEAKER_01]: He was he was not quite dominating targets, but he certainly was having his fair share.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, [SPEAKER_01]: the first four games last year where he was leading the NFL in several receiving categories and yards per route run and you know targets I think he was top three or so in targets or something like that I mean he was he was one of the most targeted and used wide receivers in the NFL for the first four games until tragedy struck his right knee in the form of Mahomes helmet but

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do think they're kind of making up for some lost time. [SPEAKER_01]: They really have an other than their little throw-around sessions in the off season that he's shown up to. [SPEAKER_01]: He's been, he's been rehabbing. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure my homes wants to get him out there and, you know, make sure he's still got it before he's taken away from homes for a couple of games.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, no, it's great to see Rishi running around and hopefully, you know, he hopefully he's not, uh, sideline too long because they're going to need all the reps they can get. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: So speaking of the wider sewers, and I know we've talked about this before.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the thing, you know, we talked about this before, but like one of the things that's fun about [SPEAKER_00]: training camp and the preseason to me is that even though we're both huge numbers guys and we love to be able to log on to profile our reference and look up stats and go back and look at a box score and be like, wow, look at this crazy thing that happened. [SPEAKER_00]: There's something really fun about the totally ephemeral nature of training camp and the preseason.

[SPEAKER_00]: None of this happens. [SPEAKER_00]: It will never be in a box score and yet there are moments in time from these football, scrimmages, exhibitions, warm-ups, practices. [SPEAKER_00]: that, you know, sometimes these moments just stick with you. [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Mahomes Tyreech in Atlanta. [SPEAKER_00]: First one. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought of two. [SPEAKER_00]: Sixty nine yard touchdown is his rookie, you know, his rookie, uh, preseason. [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.

[SPEAKER_00]: But. [SPEAKER_00]: The Xavier were the touchdown from homes, deep touchdown from homes last year in training camp is one of those moments that I remember us talking about on the podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: It was, you know, the biggest thing that happened in training camp last year. [SPEAKER_00]: It was probably the biggest thing that had happened in two training camp in a couple of years, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just one of those moments that [SPEAKER_00]: you saw right away proof of concept for how Xavier worthy could work in the NFL and how to get out of the offense. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're back at it already. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not quite as memorable as the touchdown from last training camp, but they are connecting deep.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Hollywood Brown, who will talk about when we kind of go back over the roster, who's back on a one-year deal, he also had a deep targeted catch from Patrick Holmes. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we say this every year, but like, [SPEAKER_00]: What if, is the deep game back? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, and I'm going to, I'm going to do a complete one, eighty from the last take.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason that I'm going to do that is because we haven't seen a fully healthy, several deep threat roster on the chiefs. [SPEAKER_01]: We just haven't seen it. [SPEAKER_01]: And, and we've been dreaming about it. [SPEAKER_01]: We've been dreaming about it since Tyre cleft and we've been dreaming about it since they signed idiots like MVS and Tony and all those guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we just wanted a couple of white receivers [SPEAKER_01]: they can run deep down the field and catch the football. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, last year they had worthy, but that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else around him was just not, I mean, teams could easily take that away for more of these games because there wasn't really another guy that could do that. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's because they didn't have Hollywood.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so I do think that the deep ball is like this white whale of Chief's offense that for the last four years or so, [SPEAKER_01]: The Chiefs have just been waiting to be able to do it again. [SPEAKER_01]: Not to, you know, I mean, they want to. [SPEAKER_01]: They obviously want to. [SPEAKER_01]: Pat wants to. [SPEAKER_01]: I think Andy wants to. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that naggy wants to or if it even matters if you want to. [SPEAKER_01]: But no one could know.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the point would be that if Hollywood and worthy are on the same field and healthy for a significant portion of this year, there's just no way that the deep ball doesn't make a Renaissance in this offense. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that it's going to be their number one weapon in their bag or anything like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's just no way it's not going to work way more often than it worked the last several years, which is pretty much, they've been, I mean, they have been statistically the worst deep-throwing team in football with Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's because of the wider receivers. [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy that the offense has been as good as it's been.

[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, the last couple years, it has not been nearly as good as it was in the the Brewery days of the twenty eighteen. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's crazy how good the offense has been despite [SPEAKER_00]: that being completely absent from the game. [SPEAKER_00]: And we know that the chiefs, when they're capable of doing it, obviously it elevates the offense to be able to put that fear in defenses.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw it a little bit, not in the Super Bowl, obviously, because the offensive line just [SPEAKER_00]: didn't show up. [SPEAKER_00]: What sort of late. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we did. [SPEAKER_00]: We did. [SPEAKER_00]: You saw it late in the Super Bowl. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I did because I was I was already on the stadium. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see you later. [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did not see it at the stadium or later because I turned it off in the first half and I didn't turn it back on. [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it is one of this. [SPEAKER_00]: I really hate how we keep getting drugged back to it. [SPEAKER_00]: The point is, uh, exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: When we shake the rest off, you'll never hear about that. [SPEAKER_00]: If we were in midseason form right now, [SPEAKER_00]: wouldn't even have brought it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: The point is that in the playoffs, this past season, we saw the impact that Hollywood Brown had when he came back. [SPEAKER_00]: And that was without Rishi Rice, you know, that was with Travis Kelsey having had to be used a lot more than regular season. [SPEAKER_00]: The two, so one, it's used him in the regular season because of all the injuries that they had at White or Sever. [SPEAKER_00]: And now you have Xavier Worthy healthy. [SPEAKER_00]: You have Hollywood Brown.

[SPEAKER_00]: healthy, you have her she rice healthy, you have Travis Kelsey, you know, hopefully on a pitch count where when he rolls in the playoffs, he can be playoff Travis Kelsey again. [SPEAKER_00]: It's very encouraging, it's early, but it's very encouraging to know that [SPEAKER_00]: it could be back. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that it is, but it could be. [SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't even mentioned the next guy on my list, Jalen Royals, who by the way ran a four, four, four, four.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's also pretty fast. [SPEAKER_00]: He scored a touchdown in bread zone work today. [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, you know, I mean, bread zone work there. [SPEAKER_00]: They're already in the red zone, right? [SPEAKER_00]: The offense has not been doing anything. [SPEAKER_00]: get there training camp is the right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the it's the second day training camp, but he catches touchdown today, and you know, be this guy that maybe this is because I picked him up in a couple of dinosaur leagues that just drafted in our listener, dinosaur league. [SPEAKER_01]: Feel great about it shout out to those boys by the way.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's been that's been fun and that will continue to be fun and we might as well plug We're gonna do the redraft league obviously and the cutthroat league this the same Yeah, and it is kind of approaching we're about a month away from like go time on Yeah, we need to drafts and stuff so if anyone is listening to [SPEAKER_01]: this and you are interested in playing fantasy football with us.

[SPEAKER_01]: We have many spots open, several choices to choose from in play styles and all that fun stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: So get after me on Twitter at Taylor underscore with semi-ADM. [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me you want to play fantasy and we'll get you involved.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually a little bit disappointed that I wear a fantasy too because longtime listeners of the show will know that [SPEAKER_00]: I had an all-time horrible fantasy football playoffs where I was in the semi-finals and three of our leagues and in the finals and two of them and one zero championships, including [SPEAKER_00]: being having the opportunity to go back to back in our sixteen team cutthroat league versus seasons and then getting beaten in the finals.

[SPEAKER_00]: An all-time bad beat. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I honestly, I deleted the sleeper app and I didn't re-install it until you texted me a few weeks ago to say that we were doing our rookie draft in the Dinosaur League, but you know what? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to get hurt again.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it is it is time and if you guys are interested give Taylor shot won't see if we can include you in something speaking of hopefully not ready to get hurt again, but looking healthy Jared Wiley and [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I remember last training camp when we had Charles on the show and he said somebody, the chief's front office said Travis Kelsey who I thought Jared Wiley shout out, Charles Golden that was an all-time quote. [SPEAKER_01]: I loved it so much.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, Jared Wiley also gets hurt. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're thinking like, all right, well, you know, we're these banged up at various points last year. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Rashid went down early. [SPEAKER_00]: Hollywood Brown was out for almost the entire season. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this guy that's drawing comparisons to, you know, young Travis Kelsey, maybe he could step up.

[SPEAKER_00]: But we can have a cool like, you know, two tight end kind of attack like the Patriots used to have with the murderer and the guy who's not as good as Travis Kelsey. [SPEAKER_00]: No, that too was stashed away from us and you know what he's back and he's healthy and he looks great and Wouldn't it be cool if if that worked out if Jared Wiley was a thing wouldn't that be fun?

[SPEAKER_01]: It would be fun and I mean it's not like this team doesn't know how to use tight ends in the offense. [SPEAKER_01]: They've been you know Travis Kelsey's [SPEAKER_01]: to go, but they've been able to use anybody from Dmitry's Harris, Noah Gray. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there, you know, guys will show up in this offense at the Titan position. [SPEAKER_01]: And so, Jared Wiley, if he's healthy, we'll get opportunities to catch a football.

[SPEAKER_01]: And, boy, that would be nice little passing of the torch, wouldn't it? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be great. [SPEAKER_00]: It would be a lot of fun. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see what hype trains come out of Tuesday and camp in the next week before we are back out of them podcasting again, but before we wrap up this show, we wanted to go over the offices and transactions. [SPEAKER_00]: When you take the offices and off, as we did, for again, very good reasons.

[SPEAKER_00]: Stringly good. [SPEAKER_00]: you miss out on some things. [SPEAKER_00]: I almost didn't want to admit this, but when you said earlier the Derek car retired, I was like shit Derek car retired. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, I wasn't super present in April when Derek car announced his retirement. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm actually pretty excited about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go read up on it when we're done with the podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the point is you've made an amazing spreadsheet that sort of [SPEAKER_00]: catalogs all of the major transactions for the offseason. [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to talk through it. [SPEAKER_00]: See if there's any fun exciting ads in there that we haven't already talked about that are worth mentioning on the show. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say a group of players and that group came to the chiefs in a certain way and then just get kind of a high level view of anybody that stands out to you or anything that you find to be interesting in that group. [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to start off with the new additions to the roster from free agency. [SPEAKER_01]: So these are going to be Christian Fulton signed a two year deal previously with the Chargers, two years, twenty million.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was probably the most significant one here. [SPEAKER_01]: Jalen Moore also pretty significant two-year deal previously the forty-nineers two years thirty-million so actually he's the highest contract here. [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of them are all one-year deals. [SPEAKER_01]: Garder mentioned, of course, everybody remembers him from the Jackson Raiders and then Elijah Mitchell running back from the Niners.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Edwards returns to the chiefs after a brief stint with the Titans. [SPEAKER_01]: He came back on a one-year, you know, just a little prove it deal. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Bob Tonyan, the Titan, very old, he's, I think, thirty-five years old. [SPEAKER_00]: He's actually only thirty one. [SPEAKER_00]: I look this man while we were talking earlier because I saw Bob Tanya in there and he's like, I guess like a thousand years old.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I remember I was looking at Lee Travis and, you know, that's, I mean, well, Rogers dot. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I'm married from Aaron Rogers and the careers, but yes, Bob Tanya and Titan previously with the Vikings last year. [SPEAKER_01]: Bailey's happy backup quarterback was last with the Browns. [SPEAKER_01]: And Jerry Tiller, a defensive tackle that was with the Vikings last year's kind of bounce around a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that is the charger for sure. [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big one. [SPEAKER_01]: So of those players there, you know, the two notable ones, or the most notable ones are Christian Fulton, Jalen Moore. [SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on the free agent additions to the team? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, those are obviously the big ones, but honestly, it will be easier for me to pick these, the guys that I'm not interested in.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Edwards is a nice story because he's played with the two before. [SPEAKER_00]: Bob Tonyan, Bailey's Appetary, Tilari, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are all just kind of one-year providials. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, one of those guys, we hope we never see Bailey's Appetary, then if he makes the roster correct. [SPEAKER_00]: If you're anyone, very Tilari, who knows? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think Tilari's going to make it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Tonyan and Zapier are going to be on the fifty-three, but I do think Tilari will. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got a good shot given where the defense one is at and his pedigree at least he was a first round pick the charger. [SPEAKER_00]: So those guys always get even if they haven't produced and he hasn't had an outstanding career from production standpoint.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys always get chances and you always have there's a guy in every organization that looks at another team's first round pick. [SPEAKER_00]: We know Brett Beach loves to do this. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it didn't work for the chargers, but we're the Kansas City Chiefs. [SPEAKER_00]: But it may work for us. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll make work. [SPEAKER_00]: Elijah, Mr. Ol is an interesting one to me because we talked about, you know, running back soot can hit home runs.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Elijah Mitchell, when he was healthy with the forty-nine years, which was not very often, showed a little bit of that ability. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's forty-nine or not very healthy. [SPEAKER_00]: I know, right. [SPEAKER_00]: Before you know, you're running back, you know, people always get on Kyle Shanahan's case for like drafting like two running backs every draft.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's easiest, easiest position, but somehow, but you don't see these, they're always getting hurt. [SPEAKER_00]: Gardner Mitchell is fun just from a human interest standpoint because he's he's a character and he's an interesting guy and honestly like, I mean, he's a [SPEAKER_00]: pretty good back, of course. [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a better plan than, um, freaking idiot Carson Wenz.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, you know, so that's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, and he's, you know, he played for the Raiders last year, uh, would love if he started week eighteen at Vegas. [SPEAKER_00]: That would be a lot of fun and, you know, be incredible as if, you know, he goes out. [SPEAKER_00]: He beats Vegas like six such young game. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like a Mike for a Matt Flynn and the Raiders around and say, sign it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to give that guy to a million dollars. [SPEAKER_00]: We're playing the long game here with Gardom and you, Jalen Moore, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: the four, four, you know, and there's offensive line aside from Trent Williams, like you never hear anything good about those other guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Jaila Moore is one of those players that, you know, he got two years, three million dollars. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the cheats are thinking.

[SPEAKER_00]: We can do something with this guy and from a physical standpoint, I think there is there's stuff to work with there so get him in with Andy and Andy hack the two and he's and let him let him cook and see what see what they come up with and obviously [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's, it's so funny to look at the history that you saw offensive line in the homes era. [SPEAKER_00]: You had Eric Fisher and Mitch Schwartz and said it and forget it. [SPEAKER_00]: You got two book and tackles.

[SPEAKER_00]: One of the better tackles situations in the league. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, those two guys, you know, when the course of one football season are both out of the league and [SPEAKER_00]: It's been offensive tackle pergatory ever since. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't blame the cheese for trying with him. [SPEAKER_00]: Christian Fulton is on the pup to start training camp. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not clear to me when he's going to be healthy or how healthy he's going to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm really excited about him as a player because he's got, again, this is another player with a great pedigree in terms of his draft sock and everything like that. [SPEAKER_00]: We know how good this organization is at developing defensive backs. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you put a defensive back with any kind of talent at all in front of the choose coaching staff, you're going to get great results out of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It just is a question of how healthy is he now and how healthy is he going to be by week one? [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to hear my Jalen Moore hot take? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is going to start in the playoffs for the chiefs at right tackle. [SPEAKER_01]: That is my jailer or jailer more hot take. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to overtake John Taylor and end up [SPEAKER_01]: sitting in their attack.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that is our quick rundown on the free agents. [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was a group of three players that signed significant extensions, not one year extensions with the chiefs. [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about two of them. [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about George Crow office and Trace Miff. [SPEAKER_01]: Nick Bolt got a three year, forty five million dollar deal back in March.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, you know, between those three guys, I think they're all, I think Trace Miff is the highest as far as [SPEAKER_01]: production level for his position, obviously, and he got paid accordingly. [SPEAKER_01]: But Carl Office and Bolton are pretty similar in just kind of lunch pale type of, you know, show up to work, get the job done. [SPEAKER_01]: I know everybody has their their takes about Nick Bolton and how much they get frustrated by him at times.

[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, man. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not the fastest linebacker in the world. [SPEAKER_01]: But he buss his ass and tries really hard. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a, you know, he doesn't do anything wrong specifically. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just maybe not the most athletic guy in the world. [SPEAKER_01]: But he can hit really hard. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good player.

[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, those three players there, I don't think we need to go into much detail since we have spent pretty significant amount of time on certain aircrafts and Smith, but the other guys that signed extensions would include this group. [SPEAKER_01]: Hollywood Brown. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, these are all one-year deals. [SPEAKER_01]: So there are extensions with the resigning with the team.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hollywood Brown, Chuck Manny who, Karim Hunt, Gigi Smith, Schuster, Jack Cochran, Nasi Johnson, James Winchester, Mike Pennell, [SPEAKER_01]: Marlin, to we, to we blow to Cole Christensen, Mike Kaliendo, and Matt Arisa. [SPEAKER_01]: Other than, you know, I mean, we, Hollywood, I think we've spent quite a bit of time on who else in there kind of jumps out to you. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, Hollywood does jump out, but yes, we have spent some time talking about him.

[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, like the reason I'm hyped about him this year is the same reason I was hyped about him last year. [SPEAKER_00]: We just haven't seen it. [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't gotten to see, I haven't gotten enough Hollywood in my life. [SPEAKER_00]: And I would like to have more, please. [SPEAKER_00]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: Let's pray he stays healthy and you know, I kind of feel the same way about Chuck.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Chuck's a great player and he's had a lot of big moments for the chiefs. [SPEAKER_00]: Would you believe that he's only played seventeen regular season games? [SPEAKER_01]: I would because he has spent significant time either heard or suspended or whatever, but yeah, I mean, yeah, the strips act on Lamar and the AFC championship game. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's had some some huge moments. [SPEAKER_00]: He has.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, last year he just played six regular season games. [SPEAKER_00]: He only had one sack and then in the playoffs, three games, one sack. [SPEAKER_00]: He did have four swumbles. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm excited to see what he could do, you know, healthy and, you know, again, another one-year contract he's kind of playing for at, you know, an age twenty-eight season. [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Ed Drusher's get paid in their late twenties early thirties.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has the talent to get, I think a pretty healthy contract if he balls out the chiefs. [SPEAKER_00]: And we know there's going to be opportunity for him in this edge and frankly also on the interior. [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be plenty of space for him in the rotation. [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get his opportunities.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would really like to see him earn [SPEAKER_00]: a big deal probably from somebody else, but I'd love to see him have a fully healthy year ball out.

[SPEAKER_00]: And frankly, I would love to see the guy play in and win a Super Bowl's chief because he missed the Super Bowl in twenty twenty three after he played such a huge role in getting the chiefs there with the strip stack on the mar towards ACL and then last year finally getting a play in a Super Bowl and [SPEAKER_00]: Again, buzz me, you know, ding me, we're gonna, we're gonna put money in a swear jar or whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll work our way into shape, but anyway, we all know what happened there. [SPEAKER_00]: I will say briefly on the Nick Bolton thing, you know, every time you mention people's perceptions of Nick Bolton, I just always think that, you know, just kind of really depends on whether you want to school at Missouri or Kansas. [SPEAKER_00]: And the Tigers should love their Nick Bolton. [SPEAKER_00]: Here we are, years removed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, the KU fans are a little bit better about it now. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they have a more honest perspective. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, many years removed from Nick Bolton playing at Pysue, but then they did when he first came out as KU fan, I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think early on, a lot of the Nick Bolton hatred was sort of irrationally driven by college football rivalries and perceptions. [SPEAKER_00]: The Missouri fans are still hanging on.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, honestly, like the biggest Nick Bolton boosters [SPEAKER_00]: our Missouri fans or alumnus alumni and he's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: I think we all knew that contract was coming and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Spags loves him and he's the quarterback of the defense in a lot of ways and [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how well that contract's going to age since he's not the most athletic guy, but it's also not the end of the world if that contract doesn't panel. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think of those, the guy that stands out the most of me is Chuck, and I would love to see Chuck ball out and get a new contract, but really all of these guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the first seven guys you set, Carl office, Smith, Bolton, Hollywood, Chuck, Creme Hunt and Judges, Mr. Tuesday. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are all guys that I'm interested in seeing in twenty twenty five. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I think that is fair. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then real quick briefly, we haven't super talked about track McDuffie the team on April twenty ninth did exercise his fifth year option. [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we knew they would.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a thirteen point six million dollar deal for twenty twenty six. [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, there's always the franchise tag available to them in twenty twenty seven if that comes to that. [SPEAKER_01]: So the runway on a McDuffie deal is is certainly there to be had. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not it's not depending. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not anything that [SPEAKER_01]: You know, is super critical, but they do need to lock up one of the best cornerbacks in the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to? [SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's my question. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to you. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, bref, bref, each does a really good job of extending guys that he drafted that are really good. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, but here's my question. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is a legitimate question. [SPEAKER_00]: There may be have been reporting on this. [SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, again, we're playing our way in the shape.

[SPEAKER_00]: I might have just missed it. [SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't know, and one of our listeners is listening to the show and does now feel free to [SPEAKER_00]: at me on X or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: He and Carl office were the same draft class and they extended Carl office this off season and they didn't extend the stuff he just off season.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, part of that is, you know, if they're going to pay Trent, it's going to be more money and I'm sure that that, you know, that plays into when you pay the guy certainly. [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're going to have to pay him more. [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have to pay him even more if they pay him next off season because they the top of the market quarterback deal is just going to go up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sauce gardener just got paid Patrick's hand junior just got paid. [SPEAKER_00]: Mcduffy is not I mean, he's right up there with both those guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think most people thinks returns the best quarterback in the league right now. [SPEAKER_00]: saucecardner, opinions are maybe a little bit more next, but try and make Duffy's right up there.

[SPEAKER_00]: The ES fans doing a series right now with their, you know, pulling executives around league for the top ten players at each position. [SPEAKER_00]: And Duffy was forth, you know, behind those two guys and Dins award. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I was surprised that people still think that the board is one of the three best corners of the league, him. [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: you think that that is their plan is to be done the next office. [SPEAKER_00]: I do. [SPEAKER_01]: I do. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the chiefs have shown a willingness to give their home grown players money. [SPEAKER_01]: And they probably knew with McDuffie and Carloft is both being first round picks. [SPEAKER_01]: They weren't just in the same draft class. [SPEAKER_01]: They were both in the same round.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they probably knew that it was going to be hard to squeeze no matter really what how both players show down. [SPEAKER_01]: Two first round talent guys that are still on your team in five years. [SPEAKER_01]: So you know that they're still going to be talented players. [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think they could have worked in the books to get both of them.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so they probably, I mean, I don't know anything here, but they probably picked the guy that had the easier contract, which is George Carloftas. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not top of market. [SPEAKER_01]: They can slot him right in. [SPEAKER_01]: They can say, okay, you know, this is about to player you are. [SPEAKER_01]: So that means this is going to be how much money we're going to give you.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to tack it onto the end of your deal and you're going to play for seventeen and a half million dollars for six years. [SPEAKER_01]: He said, thank God, I'm set. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, I mean, everything, everyone was happy.

[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't asking for a ton of money and then [SPEAKER_01]: on McDuffie's side like he's gonna be a thirty million dollar a year corner back no matter who who's put the pace if it's the chiefs or not so he's pretty much looking at you know not quite double the car office contract but certainly A.V. [SPEAKER_01]: is gonna be pretty significant and I mean I just think the chiefs have more [SPEAKER_01]: incentive to get that deal done next season than they do this one.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I do think it's going to happen. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on to the draft picks just to recap that we did have a draft show, but you know, first round pick Josh Simmons, second round pick Omar Norman lot who just recently on the twenty first did [SPEAKER_01]: along with all the other second round picks get that kind of, you know, drama figured out with all their guarantees that they were all negotiating with. [SPEAKER_01]: I believe I saw that they're all now signed.

[SPEAKER_01]: So all the second on picks. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool. [SPEAKER_01]: Third round pick, Ashman Joladi, fourth round pick, no Williams, fifth round pick, Jalen Royals, who, or sorry, at two thirds, two thirds on Joladi and Williams. [SPEAKER_01]: And then [SPEAKER_01]: fourth round pick Jalen Royals, fifth round pick Jeffrey Bassa, and then seventh round pick Brashod Smith. [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked briefly about a couple of those guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anything you want to say about the draft class before we move on. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually, I will, uh, since we hit none of the training camp hype for any of the defensive guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll say, oh, my normal lot has been getting a lot of first team reps a lot of two days and, you know, looks good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think a guy that maybe people were a little bit surprised got taken as high as he did, but I think [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the cheese when they have talent on the defensive line, like I do trust the chiefs coaching staff to make the most of the talent they have on the defensive line. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that they've always had the most talent on the defensive line outside of Chris Jones and so.

[SPEAKER_00]: you know, they have had to get a little bit creative, but like Trashon Worton, for example, a guy who's in your next little things, spoiler, you know, obviously went to another team and got paid, but like, Shon Worton was a UDFA that the chiefs turned into a really good player and got a healthy paycheck, you know, Colin Saunders, a mid-round draft that the chiefs got a very good payday on the defensive one.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the chiefs do know what they're doing and [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like Norman Lot is a big part of their plan. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they took him with a very specific plan in mind. [SPEAKER_00]: And we're seeing a lot of her team reps. [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we've already talked about Josh Simmons. [SPEAKER_00]: We've already talked a little bit about Royals and Smith. [SPEAKER_00]: But shout out to Omar Norman Lot, excited to see what he has in store for us.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of my favorite chiefs draft picks on the defensive line over the last, oh, you know, a couple decades was he's a player that got a defensive touchdown in the chiefs, fifty four, fifty one lost to the Rams on Monday night football. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember who this was? [SPEAKER_01]: Just based on that. [SPEAKER_01]: He returned to Fumble, rumbleed into the ends on for a touchdown. [SPEAKER_01]: One of three defensive touchdowns in that game, which was crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, was crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_00]: I unfortunately remember the pick six where I don't remember who it was. [SPEAKER_00]: The summer role player for the Rams came through too. [SPEAKER_00]: It's swatted it and to. [SPEAKER_01]: Man, this guy's name, I always think of him because he had a hit. [SPEAKER_01]: He had both of the Rams defense touchdowns. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Um shit.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like an idiot for not pulling that but I mean, you know, this was twenty eighteen. [SPEAKER_00]: It was seven years ago. [SPEAKER_00]: I do not remember what on the cheese. [SPEAKER_00]: I can see it in my mind, but I don't can't see it. [SPEAKER_01]: Alan Bailey, Alan Bailey, defensive touchdown and I just remember I love that dude. [SPEAKER_01]: I always did. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Samson Abacom is the player for the Rams who had a pick six Andy Fumble.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's still playing, he's a nice player. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that is the draft class. [SPEAKER_01]: And then finally, the last group in the little exercise we're doing here are players that are no longer on the chiefs for one reason or another. [SPEAKER_01]: We've got, we've already talked a little bit about the Joe Tuney trade.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he's the only player that left via trade traded Chicago Bears and picked up a nice payday for himself, love Joe Tuney. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we have the free agent departures. [SPEAKER_01]: Kirk Orton just mentioned he went to the Panthers and signed a three year forty five million dollar deal the best deal that a chief signed in in for agency first above just in re [SPEAKER_01]: who went to the Saints and signed a three year, thirty one and a half million dollar deal.

[SPEAKER_01]: Also a pretty healthy move for Justin Reed and like the last two times that Justin Reed changed teams when he changed teams, Honey Badger immediately left. [SPEAKER_01]: He did that with the Texans and he did that with the chiefs. [SPEAKER_01]: So just to read, just scare in Honey Badger away from NFL roster's left and right. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Justin Watson signed a two year, five million dollar deal with the Texans.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a nice little, you know, he was kind of [SPEAKER_01]: wasn't really sure he would play anymore and the text had decided to give him to Somaje P Ryan with the Bengals back to the Bengals two years three point six million there Spencer Schrader the kicker is actually on the Colts roster for the next two years for two and a half million dollars. [SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't think he's going to be their main kicker, but they gave him a two year deal.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, good for Spencer Schrader. [SPEAKER_01]: Joshua Chay is back with the team that [SPEAKER_01]: She'll not be named on a one year two million dollar deal and then Keith Taylor at the corner back to the Falcons Derek nodding to the jets on only a one point four million dollar one year deal, which I thought Derek nodding was a better player than that. [SPEAKER_01]: I actually I think he's one of the more significant free agent loss. [SPEAKER_01]: He was always really good.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then McColle Hartman did land with the Packers. [SPEAKER_01]: I actually this was news to me when I was putting the spreadsheet together, but he has signed a one and a half million dollar deal with the Green Bay Packers. [SPEAKER_01]: DJ Humphreep's what could have been with the DJ Humphreep signing when over the Rams on a one year or two and a half million dollar deal.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nuck Hopkins is a raven one year, five million dollar deal to go play in Baltimore and then three free agents that have not found a new landing spot. [SPEAKER_01]: Previously mentioned idiot Carson Wentz, nothing I guess against him but boy, he was really bad when we saw him. [SPEAKER_01]: He left in free agency and then Jody Fortson and Peyton Henderson shot two tight ends that do not have.

[SPEAKER_01]: A team yet, and then finally Justin Ross was cut on July, sixteenth, and B.J. [SPEAKER_01]: Thompson was placed on the reserve non football injury list from his seizure, and the team is going to continue to take care of his medical operations, as much as they can. [SPEAKER_01]: So he's not technically on, I mean, I guess non football injury list, you can call it roster or not.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that is the group of players that were chiefs in twenty twenty four and not going to be chiefs in twenty twenty five, you are thoughts. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple of thoughts. [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I just want to say again. [SPEAKER_00]: good on Turk Morton and other active free agent making forty five million dollars.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: On his first non-Rookie contract is incredible and a huge testament to both the cheese for developing him and a Turk comes out for playing his ass off and getting a huge payday. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, generational life-changing money for him and his family. [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome to see. [SPEAKER_00]: The second part of it, what you said for DJ Humphrey's applies to a lot of guys in this list, which is what could have been.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, how to go through what he's been going through. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, all of these, a lot of these guys, Jody Fordson, if you want to go back to the training camp, pipe trains of years past, but specifically, U.J. [SPEAKER_00]: Humphrey and Hopkins from last year's chief scene that made it as far as it did.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, those were all mid-season additions that if, you know, if you play out the twenty twenty four season a thousand times, there's at least [SPEAKER_00]: a couple dozen scenarios where a couple of those guys hit. [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, really hit because the Hopkins at his moments, Joshua, J and DJ Humphrey's almost literally didn't even appear on the field of chiefs in their limited time with team.

[SPEAKER_00]: But there's at least a couple of dozen alternate universes where some of those signings hit, you know, they roll box cars and [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this season ends differently and I'm not it probably doesn't because obviously I don't know what you're talking about exactly but. [SPEAKER_00]: What could have been right what could have been so that. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I'm going to miss any of these guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we talked about Tunie, obviously, great player to Sean Ward, a really good player, Justin Reed certainly had his moments. [SPEAKER_00]: But the rest of these guys on this list, it's kind of like, well, I wish them well, but I wish, except for Sumagipura. [SPEAKER_00]: I actually don't wish them much. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, he did have, you know, the game winning touch against the Broncos. [SPEAKER_00]: And, and that was good for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, well, sure, and he would could have done it, but Smajapy Ryan did do it. [SPEAKER_00]: On the other hand, this is, this is like strike three for Smajapy Ryan. [SPEAKER_00]: He was a Bengal and he killed the chiefs when he was a Bengal. [SPEAKER_00]: He was a Bronco. [SPEAKER_00]: Then he comes to the chiefs. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't win the big one and they goes back to the Bengals. [SPEAKER_00]: He voluntarily chose to go back to Cincinnati.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's ex-communicato for sure. [SPEAKER_00]: See ya.