The Trans Genocide Part 1: Eradication

this fine day? It's it's been. It's been really fun frantically updating my part of the script because they're keep being fucking new bills that are like going through committee. So it's great having having a good time. I'm doing great. I'm not aware of anything that's wrong. I assume you all are here to tell me that everything's fine forever well, hopefully next episode we'll talk more about how we can like, uh,

I don't deal with this sort of thing. I most I it was my job to handle the bad part of the of this two part series, and it was the other people's job to handle the good part. So I don't know what they have and planned for the next episode. Actually all I all I did was watch hours and hours of people advocating for genocide and put together some of the worst bits that I feel like

are still worth mentioning. It's probably worth noting that the two of us who are supposed to be writing about what we do about it both have swords over our shoulders. I can go grab a sword if that is If that is a core part of the advice, I think,

so okay. So I think whenever I put together episodes like these, I always try to be careful not to I don't just want to include people who are talking about why myself and others should die, like just like I don't want to include that unnecessarily because that's just kind of a bummer. But I think it is also important to actually hear and understand the types of rhetoric that they are trying to spread and they're trying to normalize, and be aware of what techniques and what rhetorical styles

they are trying to employ. So i've I've condensed this down as much as I can. You will still hear a decent amount of pretty gross stuff. I think I should have almost all of the machendering completely edited out. I should have a whole bunch of things not not included. But there will be a decent amount of rhetoric that that you will hear from just as as a heads up. That's what's going to be kind of part of this episode.

A lot of this is going to be talking about hosts that are employed by the conservative news site ran by Ben Shapiro, The Daily Wire. They have really, really focused in an excruciating extent on anti trans like campaigning and activism for really the past year. It got this type of stuff got really bad last February, and it once again got really bad is February. It's no coincidence that this is also the start of the legislative cycle. This is why they're doing this right now. It is.

It is part of an attempt to actually affect the laws that the United States have around if trans people are allowed to exist. It is. It is purposeful, So we may as well just get started here. We're going to start a little bit ld actually, so most of this will be documenting the types of rhetoric they were using in February to March, so the past like month

and a half. In early February, Candice Owens on her Daily Wire show refer to transpeople as demonic while advocating for the total ban of transgender healthcare for all ages. The trans Lives Matter protesters decided to occupy the Oklahoma Capitol building to fight GOP bills that ban gender conforming surgery for people that are under the age of twenty one.

So that course that should be banned. If you are in the age twenty one, you should not be honestly, never be allowed by I would go a little further, Oklahoma, if you really want to do something, just ban it

all together. Yeah. I love that, because they're always trying to be like, no, no, no, we're just here to protect the children, whereas we've known this entire time that they're trying to stop anyone from being trans. Yes, this is a pattern that will come up a lot in the research I've put together for this is how last year it was their fay much trying to make it like, no,

it's just about the kids. And then we were talking about how first they're going to try to limit it to eighteen years old, and they're gonna limit it to twenty one years old, and they're gonna limit it to twenty five years old. Then they're just going to ban it all together. And that is very clearly what they're doing. And they're now just saying the quiet part out loud. So good on us for calling that a year in advance,

but now they're emboldened just to say it outright. So kind of someone's refers to trans people as demonic leader on in that clip. I'm not not including that bit because just today Michael Knowles on his Daily Wire show said that this so called transgenderism is is demonic, the second second Daily Wire person to drum up this satanic

panic shit. This is demonic stuff, really demonic stuff. And I made this point I got in trouble with our publicists over at Media Matters because I said that the attacks on man's sexual nature and sexual difference in complimentarity are demonic, and they are. They go back throughout all of history, throughout some of the earliest depictions of demons. Even one of the most prominent depictions of demons comes from an artist, Lafas Levy, who is an occultist, who

did a depiction of Baphomet. If you just think what's a demon looked like, you're probably thinking of this picture. Okay, okay, all right, that's not true. It's completely wrong. This is this is really funny to be because for years now I've been trying to say that being trends is not demonic. It's very clearly alchemical. Please please get your occult terms right. Thousands of years of alchemical development has delivered onto me

estradial valorate. It's it's very clearly alchemy. Um. But also it's just extremely funny to me that Knowles tried to cite Levy, Who's like, Baphamet isn't really a demon in Levy's work, but like whatever, it's it's all it's extremely funny. He goes on to talk about solidate and and Kigila, which I've actually been planning to do an episode on for a while. But it's it's all extremely funny too.

Is it worth describing that Baphomet is the statue of the like hornheaded person with like Yes, often falsely falsely identified as the Satan or a demon, But yes, it's a very famous, very famous statue. Like if you think of like the statue of Satan, this is what Baphamet

actually is. Yeah, it's it's not Satan, but I mean the use of this like demonic rhetoric is a very is it's very basic, like a dehumanizing stuff, trying to de human eyes trans people, um, while also pulling from like the remnants of the satanic panic that still exists in some conservatives minds um. Moving on to a friend of the pod, Matt Walsh Um. One of one of

his recent main targets is actress Dylan mulvaney. On February fourteenth, Matt went on a mindless rant while continuously miss gendering Mulvaney and attacking her appearance, at one point referring to her as like doing a woman face minstrel show routine.

Which a reaccording thing about this is that all in all of their rhetoric against transpeople, they also managed to be incredibly racist yep, and like understanding what racism actually is, which I mean is not surprising considering there they work for the Daily Wire. I'm not going to actually include the clip of Matt Walsh there because it's it's just it's just miss gendering and like making fun of how someone looks for like a minute, and it's all very gross.

Who is that actress? I just I live under a rock Dylan Mulvaney. I think she does like Broadway stuff. She's like a New York person. I've not I've only I've ady really heard of her. Based on Matt Walsh's continuing rants against this person, we can't have cross stressors in the theater. Imagine we have to. I actually don't know. I literally don't know how far back you'd have to get to get to where people didn't play with gender

on stage. I think it's impossible. I think the further back you go to worsing guests, because like you get things where like only men could be on stage, and it's like, well, okay, this is every Shakespeare before Wance, et cetera, et cetera. In one of the more bizarre Daily Wire appearances in this um so on, on February fifteenth, a young dad who called into the Daily Wire sports show Crane on Company talked about how dad's like him

are gonna cause dangerous problems if trans inclusive continues. The hosts of the show agreed and said that violence will be an inevitable response to trans women playing sports which want to be brought up. But somebody said something about dad being in the stand, finding out that for the first time that somebody in the locker room was a male, and that they were just hanging it all out in front of their girls how I rate they would get.

My view is that, yeah, we're gonna have not just one irate dad, We're gonna have a lot of I rate dads. That's going to cause the massive problem in the school system, and it's going to be very dangerous for everybody because people are going to start taking in their own hands because they're seeing that other people are exactly jungle rules, as we call it, jungle rules. Exactly at what point do we say, we've tried to talk this out and hash this out with you, you're not

being reasonable. Those are part of my values. So it's not even us saying go in there and handle business. It's saying, I know what's going to happen the minute that girl runs out of that locker room or a couple of girls. Imagine if a twelve year old girl ran out of the locker room and said that to her, Just imagine that how great or whatever. Men shouldn't be

in women's locker room. But if a man that was straight walked into a women's locker room with a trench coat and just showed everything and started shaking like this and got beat asleep, everybody would be doing this. They'd be clapping. Great job. But you let the same thing happen to somebody who says they think they're a woman in there and does the exact same thing, then it's no,

it's a totally different situation. So while we're not advocating for it, I'm telling you what's going to happen because I live in the real world. I know what you would do for your daughter. Yep, that man does not live in the real world. No, And it's it's all, like, it's this weird like trying to have some form of like of like denial in their very clear advocating for violence and like advocating for the normalization of just assaulting people.

I mean, I even feel like though this is like, this is like last year's anti trans rhetoric, you know, the like lowest hanging fruit was to come at us about sports, this issue that affects the tiniest percentage of people. Yeah, and it's it's it's the it's the blending of the sports issue with like the locker room stuff. Yeah. Later on in the show, another caller admitted that he would

assault transwomen, including his own children. M and the Daily Wire hosts refused to push back on like any of this, as this man just advocates child abuse. And I just wanted to say too, as a as a new father. I've got a new baby boy, uh, and I've got a two year old daughter, And not only would I want to beat somebody up for doing that to my daughter, but I would beat my son up if he ever thought about doing something like that in a women's locker room.

It's just again, and and I want to make sure and again, we live in the real world. We know what's gonna happen, because we're not even advocating violence, Like I said, we're telling you what's gonna happen. These are the fathers and the brothers and the uncles and the mamas are it's gonna get to a point where they're just gonna handle business like. And it's just it is. It is what is We're trying to tell y'all this in the threat, it's just a fore warning. It is

foreshadowing what's gonna happen. British are coming. Yeah, okay, but but the British is coming. Is a really really funny thing for an American to say about this, because he wait, is he saying that they're the British they're trying to do like a Paul Revere thing. Oh oh oh oh. I thought they were trying to be like, we're gonna show up and we're gonna handle business us. No, in

the opposite. I'm sorry, we are. We are warning that if this insanity continues, then people will start violently assaulting anyone who they suspect of being a man in a bathroom, which will also just lead to like people assaulting like

like a butch sis woman as well. Like no, I mean, it's like this has already been happening, like like one of my friends can't get changed at the local gym um even though they're assigned female at birth, because there's no safe place for them to do it because the way that they read, you know, like and I don't know whatever. I mean, that's just one example of the

time my head. But it's just happening constantly. Suddenly we have gender police everywhere, and everyone is expected to perform masculinity and femininity and like weird sis normative ways that everyone knows. I'm sorry, I'm just no, no, no no, But I think there's something important about this too, which is like and anytime someone tries to say, like, anytime someone starts talking about the real world, this is the way the world really works. Right, That's not an actual description

of reality, it's an it's an aspirational thing, right. And the way that you make something real is through violence, yes, And that's what all this stuff is absolutely and and specifically speaking of violence and child abuse. The next day, on February sixteenth, Candice Owens was discussing this, uh, this like trans kids TikTok video about his grandmother's transphobic reaction to him coming out. And it's it's also it's it's

just extremely grows. So these like these media people who are paid millions of dollars spend their days may making fun of trans kids on TikTok, like like random like random miners on TikTok, We're making videos about their experiences. And they then these these like these grifters and these content creators who work on their right just like blast these kids on their on their shows. They get like millions of millions of viewers. I mean, this is the

entire lips of TikTok platform. But yours now seeing this across like almost every mainstream conservative influencer. So on top of Candice calling being trans a mental illness placed upon you by society. Candas Owns also said that if she had a trans grandchild, she would beat them with a cane. It is a cry for help, and your grandmother answered that cry for help by telling you that you are loved as you are and that you don't need to

fall into this trap of insanity. You're the best grandma ever, by the way, because when I'm a grandma, I get any foolishness like that. I don't know. I want to be a sweet grandma, they do. I want to be a sweet old lady. But I feel like I might be the kind hit somebody with a cane. I don't know, I'll be like, why you're not calling you, Michael. I feel like that will probably be me, but I will. I would have prayed for you, you know, like a

thing that I keep thinking about. With this, like with this Cannons clip, With most of these clips, it's like they're just like laughing the whole time they're saying this stuff. Yep, Like it's just a joke to them, right, It's like, yeah, they believe it, but it's also it's just like a joke. It's just something they can sort of like casually talk about while like you know, fucking hanging out in their show or whatever. And absolutely, because I mean the primary

goal for these people is is content creation. And yeah, they're making suffering content for for and as well as like normalizing this type of like violent response. Yeah, and and and I think I think the sort of joking thing is is a big part of how normalization works.

Like I don't think, like I think it would be much harder to have someone just being incredibly serious going like yeah, I'm gonna like beat my child with a cane, right like if if if you do, When that's sort of like joking, like matter of fact thing, it helps, It helps normalize it enormously. Yeah. No, absolutely, I'm just really sad thinking about the because acceptance by family, a family that doesn't necessarily understand, but there's willing to accept.

It's like the thing that I think bolsters the spirits of young trans people or adult trans people more than anything else, you know. And I've been like reading a bunch of history about like trans people from one hundred years ago where their family or like all right, well we don't get it, but what's your name now? Yeah, And like a hundred years ago, we we could have

improved from there. And and this is something that the Daily Wire definitely does continue to harp on across multiple hosts, even like the next video that we have here Matt Matt Walsh is doing like this is the same thing they're they're talking about if they themselves had trans kids or trans grandkids, that they would continue to be as openly vitriolic and even violent against their own children. So this next clip came like a week after Matt Walsh's

first unhinged rant attacking Dylan Muldaney. Walsh claimed that he wouldn't stop barking vitriolic rhetoric if he had a trans kid, that in fact, he would quote rather be dead than discover he had a trans kid. A beautiful and innocent kid one day, seemingly out of nowhere, gets sucked into the gender call and is devoured by it. All of their innocence and light and beauty just drained out of them,

replaced by this self cannibalizing madness. For a parent to see this happen to a child, it is a fate worse than death. I would rather be dead than have that happened to my kids then die. We do argue with you. I'm not on the debate team. This is a mock trial. I keep thinking, whatever these things happen, like, I keep thinking about Matt Chrisman's one good line, which is we should give to Christians what they want and

crucify them, persecute, persecute all day, every day. So unfortunately, there was more to that clip than Walsh just threatening to kill himself using the like a groomer and protect the children rhetoric that we saw go viral last year. Walsh promises that mean words are only the beginning. See, the thing that I most despise about Dylan Wolvani is that part of a movement which actively seeks to turn

my children into Dylan Wolvni. That's why I'm entitled to my anger and to whatever language I use to convey it. I will say whatever I want to say, and I will be justified in saying it, because these people are after my kids and yours and everyone else's. And you're worried that I'm being a little rude when it comes to my children, the children that I cherish more than my own life. If you think mean words go too far, then you would be very shocked to hear how far

I would really go to protect them. Trust me, words are the least of it. I love this. I would do anything to protect my children, unless they're a gay, in which case I'm good, like off myself or something like yeah, just I mean, I mean, I don't know whatever. Already the legally actionable things have already been said. Hey, it's it's not my idea, it's only Matt Walsh's. This is his idea. You know. I do want to go back for a second to the early parts of this clip.

We are he's talking about like, oh, like you have these like puerian innocent children and like the light goes out of them, Like it's this thing that strikes you about that so much. Is like she's describing the process

exactly in reverse. Like the thing that he's describing is what is like, this is what happens if you try agition a kid like by force, Like the thing that actually happens when a trans kid transitions is like you can you can literally see this in like like you could you can like literally see this in pictures of kids. It's like like you can wash the light come back

to their eyes. As a transition totally. No, yah, yeah, and it's you know, it's it's it's one of sort of like it's one of the most beautiful things about being trans It's like is experiencing that joy and experiencing like what it is to be yourself and then you get to watch this fucking dipshit like just literally just like taking the process as it actually happens, and then like lying and saying it's like literally like lying and saying that the thing that is making these people have

this joy is the like the thing that's fucking killing them. No. Absolutely, that that's something that's often overlooked when covering this sort of thing, is the like just the presence of trans joy and the trans joy that can be experienced when people are given access to the treatments that have been like known to be successful for decades now. It's also I mean, I don't know if you're intentionally going in

an escalating sense. This is the first person that I'm looking at being like, oh, this man wants to kill me, you know I am I am going in an escalating Yeah, yeah, we escalate pretty far over the next bit. First, I think let's let's have a bit of an ad break. Do you know who doesn't want to kill you? Fifty percent of the advertisers, at least at least fifty percent of the advertisers don't want you dead because instead they

want your money. All right, we are back as as previously stated, Like when when reporting on this topic before, we've always said that the limited focus on transgender miners was simply a form of rhetorical deception. Oh, somebody, please think of the children. By conjuring concerns that have been like culturally ingrained in US around the protection of children, anti transactivists have been introducing and a normalizing anti trans talking points that inevitably get used against trans people of

all ages. Last year, Matt Walsh openly said that quote, it should be illegal for doctors to medically transition anyone of any age. Unte And as Margaret said, it seems like we were moving in a more escalating direction. But that just so happened to corresponds as the month of February continued. So here's a clip from Daily Wire host Michael Knowles from the late February twenty twenty three. In order for women to have the right to have their

own bathrooms, you have to ban transgenderism entirely. You can't just ban it for the kids. It's got to be entirely in order for women to be able to have their own locker rooms at the gym, you have to ban transgenderism entirely. In order to protect businesses from having to participate in weird occult sexual rituals like the transgender transition,

you have to ban transgenderism entirely. So that is just like straight up advocating for genocide, right, Like, yeah, there there is no difference between this this term that the Daily Wire people use transgenderism and and currently existing transgender people. That that isn't you It's like saying we have to eradicate judaism, Like what is what is it? What do you mean by that? You obviously mean exterminating human beings and making it impossible for them to continue on? Like

that is that? That is what genocide is? Yeah, and you can hear me like literally the next thing he says is like you know, he's talking about like like transition angas in the cult ritual or whatever the fuck it is, Like well, yeah, no, Like like he's he's explicitly saying like what what Yeah, what does banning transgenderism means, does it never like confuse you all when you just have these moments where you're like, these people believe in sky Daddy. Like I'm not even anti religious, I'm not

even an atheist. I don't know exactly what I am. But like when you hear people just being like God has willed me to do this murder or whatever, that this is what this person is saying. I'm just like they think of themselves as like holy warriors who have been chosen by God to eradicate this demonic plague that is infecting like humankind. Yeah, it would be like if all of a sudden they were like, and that's why Gandolf has told me that I must go on a quest.

Like I'm just like, am I living in the same century as these people? Like, again, not an atheist, but I'm just like you've decided that sky Daddy has told you to march off to murder, Like, yeah, that doesn't even map to a fucking basic understanding even of religious anyway. Sorry, No, absolutely, And I mean this unfortunately continues to get worse. Yea. The very next day, Michael Knowles defended his elimination as rhetoric.

In another unhinged rant about the probably about two million trans people in the United States, saying that quote, there can't be a genocide of trans people because it's quote, not a legitimate category of being. They said that I was calling for the extermination of transgender people. They said I was calling for a genocide against I said, I must have missed that part of my show. When did

I did? I say that? I don't one. I don't know how you could have a genocide of transgender people because genocide refers to genes, It refers to genetics, it refers to biology. And the whole point of those genderism is that it has nothing to do with biology. That's what the transgender activists say. They say, forget about biological sex. My gender expression doesn't have to have anything to do with my biological sex. Okay, well, then there can't be

a genocide that refers to genetics. But furthermore, nobody's calling to exterminate anybody, because the other problem with that statement is that transgender people is not a real ontological category. It's not a legitimate category of being. There are people who think that they're the wrong sex, but they're mistaken, they're they're laboring under a delusion, and so we need to correct that delusion. Okay, so that was that was

a lot. I'm just clinging to my emotional support sword, Like, what what solution, pretel, will you be employing to correct that so called delusion? Maybe just like one one once, like a like one one of the last one, Yeah, fidal one, not a penultimate solution, that's not his his thing. No one step further, the very the very last one. I can't think of a of a of a of another word for for for very last. But yeah, I

also like, have these motherfuckers karatyped themselves? No one has almost no one has been goddamn like the percentage of people who've seen what their genes are like, I don't know whatever, sense it's nonsense. Yeah, that the science does not hold up to the like thing you learn in fourth grade that the you know, I don't know when they teach you x x and x y or whatever. But it's like, but like, that's not science, that's not the current scientific understanding. And I think it's never really

been the scientific understanding. That part I'm not as certain about. Um No, I mean like it's and by saying I'm not calling for genocide because the group I'm targeting aren't even a real group of people. They're not even literally it's literally the talking point of every single jenicidal fascist ever it existence. So like like literally this is I can I cannot find the person who was writing about this.

I apologize immensely. But when when when this clip was first circulating, there was a really interesting article of BA that was circulating about how like not a legitimate category. Gry is what like the word that gets translated as degenerate, like that the Nazis used like actually means like like that's like non legitimate kind of like that very specifically is what the Nazis used as like you know, as as they're saying, for we need to kill the Jews,

right like that. That's that's that's very very specifically what they were doing. No, And and like genocide does not

refer to genetics, it it doesn't. And and you know, you know, you can you can look at like because like these people are like just unfathomably fucking stupid, right Like they they they look at genocide, right and they see the word gen and they go, this means no. But you know, and I think I think something that is worth mentioning is that So Raphael Lemkin is the guy who coins the term genocide, right, Um, the Lemkin Institute, which is the the like the lempicin SciTE, which is

the institute from this guy that that does genois, like does anti genocide prevention works specifically in the West. Was like there was now a risk of genocide against trans people. So you know, the institute of the actual guy who made the term genocide versus a guy who thinks that jen means gene. It's like, it's just no, It's it's very obvious that that saying that transgender people are not a real ontological category is like he's doing He's literally is how you do the Nazis did. That is how

you do Nazi stuff. Like I'm under the impression of the whole thing with ontology is accepting that there's like multiple ontologies, Like it's clearly not an ontological concept in his ontological like his way of viewing the world. That's one of my problems, you know, I just like I don't think he would pass a basic philosophy of course in college, you know, Okay, I will say this my my, my, my argument against against, specifically against there being multiple legitimate ontologies.

Is this is this these people's fucking ontology who like believe that like these people, all these fucking freaks literally believe individually right that there is no scientific explanation for lightning and that like every act of lightning is an individual act of God, that is not a legitimate ontology. Like fuck that shit. No, I I refuse. I refuse to do fucking to have to have there be fucking

multiple valid ontological positions. I refuse for there to be valid worlds like no, there's something are just wrong and you have to be able to say that shit otherwise you get this fucking bullshit reality tunnels do do be funny like that? He He later added quote transgenderism ultimately is a lie, It's a deception. It is a fraud. Fraud is not protected by the First Amendment. Fraud is not a category protected by the principles of a free speech. You have no right to fraud. But you know, here's

the thing, I will I will agree with him. You have no right to fraud. Fraud is not protected by free speech. I really like have have have a real fun time when we fucking come for you. On those principles. It's a little like tights show disappears a few days of A few days later, Noles once again invoked grooma rhetoric and openly called drag Queen's pedophiles and explicitly called on quote the heavy hand of the state to shut

down to drag shows and arrest performers and parents. Why is he dressed like um, mister Rogers in a Black Mirror episode. He's just mirror universe, mister Rogers. He's like just telling you to hate your neighbor. You know. I don't know how you can watch this and not conclude that the performers are pedophiles. I don't use that word lightly. I know a lot of people on the right use that word. They fling it around, and they use it

in precisely. I don't see how you can dance around in a thong or in a leather harness in front of babies and toddlers if you are not a pedophile. So I'm I would be if not the farm, I'd bet a lot of my money that that's the case, and that's being normalized. I don't see how these parents should be permitted to keep their children they're abusing your children, are sexually abusing your children by taking them to these events. I don't see how whatever company is hosting this should

be allowed to keep its doors open. All of this should be shut down by the heavy hand of the state. All of these people other than the children should be arrested, and some of them should face pretty severe consequences. Not great stuff. He did hedge his bets. He was like, you know, I'm actually not sure about this. That was

my favorite part. I think it is. It is interesting that the whole heavy hand of the state line is is an interesting, little little unique gem in their style of rhetoric whenever they explicitly call on the powers of the government to do fascism. I think a lot of this type of rhetoric was leading up to Seapack in what should happened in early March. During Seapack, anti trans rhetoric was a very central theme across There are many speakers. That's like the big right wing gathering where all the

far right people get together and talk to an empty room. Well, SEPAK is the Conservative Political Action Conference. It is far right by the world's over to the window, but it's like a mainstream right wing convention in the United States cool So. The conference featured in a rave speakers, including prominent Republican politicians and policymakers, as well as people like

Michael Knowles who are just like right wing pundits. The many many speeches had attacks against gender affirming healthcare, trans inclusive sports, and bathroom policies, as well as the you know, the typical groomer and pedophelia stuff that we saw get super popular last year, as well as framing this word transgenderism as a radical ideology. Now, words like transgenderism and gender ideology are not actually terms that trans people use.

These were terms invented by anti transactivists. I want to be very certific about this because this is the thing I don't think people understand. The term gender ideology was specifically invented by the Catholic Church, like as as as a thing to oppose this and also a sort of a way to oppose like gay marriage and like queerness

in general. And they're all of the fucking all of the like shitty like one one of the one of those sort of like quote unquote like dark secrets in the fucking closet of all of the black people who claim to be like radical feminists who are anti trance is. All of these people specifically worked with the back back when this up was first being developed in like the

late nineties and early two thousands. All of these people worked with the Catholic Church specifically to make sure that I like that that that more sort of liked more gender inclusive like terminology and stuff like not on terminology, like more gender and preclusive programs and definitions of like of what gender is wouldn't be implemented at the un.

So this this sort of like rad fem conservative Catholic alliance is very old, and most of the people who are in it will deny that that's what they were doing, but it is like, this is the this Catholic Church shit. The Pope literally had a rant about how gender ideology was colonialism, like like a week ago, and and and the Pope does the same demonic rhetoric as these people. And I mean, yeah, so I believe this terms him. It makes sense from him. That's his that's his thing,

that's his literal job. Yeah, which immediately also it's like, sir, you are the pope, like shut the fuck up about colonization, man, Like yeah, like you know from Latin America. That doesn't excuse you, like the church, the Catholic Church famously never never, never done colonization. Um. But yeah, these words were invented by anti transactivists to the humanized transgender people and frame being trans as itself this dangerous ideology or a mental

illness in a need of curing um. CEPAC speakers consistently invoked like grooming and pedophilia stuff in their In their long anti LGBTQ hate rantum, Lauren Bobert claimed that educators attempting to groom children, echoing the libs of TikTok stuff that got popular in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, Tulsa Gabbard was at Seapack. She basically claimed that LGBTQ plus people were trying to gain acceptance for pedophiles by labeling them as minor attracted persons and allowing them to

teach in schools. This is another conspiracy theory that Libs of TikTok has boosted for a long time. By the way, I want to hold a fucking greed share, which is that there were a lot of people who like claimed to be leftist. Two in like twenty eighteen, twenty, nineteen, two, and twenty were like telling all of us that Tulsa Gabbard was a leftist. It was like the only antick very clearly a fascist. Falk like she she, she like, no, fuck off, you were wrong. Please admit you were wrong.

Please be more careful about who you're going to fucking back so you don't end up backing this fucking like weird peto jacketing dipshit. But you know who you should back. Oh God, is it not yet? Not yet? Almost almost not almost almost time? Sorry, I have abbot planned. Matt Gates spoke about an instant in Virginia which the right wing media sphere has spread disinformation about to falsely frame it as an instance of a trans student abusing inclusive

bathroom policies to attack young girls. Just spreading all kinds of misinformation and disinformation from these right wing hate websites, that that is why they exist, is to prop by gate disinformation. Marjor Taylor Green targeted gender affirming healthcare, praising her current reintroduction of the twenty twenty two Protect Children's Innocence Act in the House, a bill which would make it a felony to provide a gender affirming care to miners.

Green spread the lies and disinformation made popular by Matt Walsh that gender affirming healthcare is designed to quote mutilate your kids and quote chemically castrate them. Stuff that we've debunked on the show before and many others have debunked. Trump gave a pretty pretty bad transphobic speech to close

out the conference. On the one side, he said that he would keep men out of women's sports, but then closed out Seepack by saying, quote, he would revoke every Biden policy promoting the sexual mutilation and chemical castration of our youth, and I will ask Congress to send me a bill prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all fifty states unquote. I don't want to include Trump's stuff here because I find his voice to be slightly annoying. Anyway, moving off,

Donald Trump more annoying than Michael Knowles. Shocking so hard, challenge level, almost impossible speak. Speaking of Michael Knowles, he gave a speech at Seapack where he advocated that transgenderism must be eradicated. To thunderous applause. Now I'm going to play this whole clip here, Bear with me. There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. It is all or nothing. If transgenderism is if men really can become women, then it's true for everybody of all ages.

If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men really can't become women, as they cannot, then it's false for everybody too. And if it's false, then we should not indulge in, especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people. If it is false, then for the good of society, and especially for the good of the poor people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely,

the whole preposterous ideology at every level. Pretty bad stuff. Not great to hear a room full of people applied someone who's very clearly talking about the eradication of an entire group of people. And I want to specifically point out the from public life thing, because that was something that you know, like back when the first bathroom bills were happening in twenty sixteen, right, you know, like people

like trans people who were following this stuff. You know, the thing everyone said was they're trying to they're trying to erase trans people from public life, right, because that's that's what happens when you can't use a restroom in public, Right, It's like it limits your ability to just exist in the public sphere. And we've gotten to a point now where they can just fucking say what we you know, what we all knew they wanted from the beginning, And

that's terrifying. I remember when I hit them the kind of uncanny valley space, like when I hit the space where I freaked people out no matter what bathroom I used, you know, it's like a very conscious thing where I remember it because I pick which bathroom to use based on safety, right, and and like depending on my presentation. It's it's wildly different depending on what kind of space I'm in, it's wildly different. I don't know, I just

I just re member really consciously. The first time, I like just I picked the men's room and then got like double takes about why was I in there, And it's just like, oh, I like can't do anything anymore. Yeah, like no, absolutely. After Noel's speech at SPACK arguing for the eradication of transgenderism, quote unquote, Daily Wire hosts, including Matt Walsh, defended him by saying, quote, we are in a war against the most deranged ideology ever invented by

the human race. We are fighting to eradicate the ideological equivalent of a parasitic infection. But is a term like eradicate over the top. Does it have a needlessly militant tone? No, definitely not. The tone may be militant, but not needlessly so. We are, after all, in a war and lives are at stake. We are in a war against the most deranged ideology ever invented by the human race. Plane and sample. We are fighting to eradicate the ideological equivalent of a

parasitic infestation. And the parasite gender ideology seeks to not only brainwash a generation of children, not only degrade and appropriate womanhood, but also and manhood by the way, but also, and most fundamentally, it seeks to eat away at truth itself. This is coming from somebody who glibly refers to himself as a theocratic fascist, And in cases like this, when they tell you who they are, you should fucking believe them.

Like the first bit of that clip is like pretty bad, very very clearly fascistic like it's it's checking all of the boxes. But then I'm going to continue on to the second part of this clip, and it is incredibly chilling. Can we point out about how his poor choice and plaid is also degrading into masculinity. Really, he is the greatest threat to masculine right now because of his plaid choice.

Eradication of gender ideology. Total defeat is the only option because there's no compromise with it, there's no living side by side with it, there's no finding common ground. The gender ideologue wants to destroy your culture and your children. You will either rise up against it or lose everything to it. We're so fucked, it's so Nazzi, Like, yeah, quote, total defeat is the only option. The gender ideologue wants

to destroy your culture and your children. Like that is less than the stones throw away from We must have secure the existence of our people in the future for white children. It's right there. It's like, it's so it's

so clear. I think there's like a tiny grain of truth in it, which is that like they are very very very close to like permanently losing the battle over where the trans people could exist, and that's why they're doing this right, because like the only like like like so support for trans people getting healthcare is like sixty is at like sixty percent, right, the only thing they have left is just straight up genocide because if they don't fucking kill us all now, right, and they don't

right now act to make it impossible for future trans people to be trans, right, they are going to lose. And I will talk about this towards the end of the episode. This is kind of part of my thesis on this, and this is something that Michael Knowles himself actually admits. In one of Michael Knowles's first shows after Sepack, he suggests that eradicating transgenderism would be a simple matter of returning to the state of Affairs in twenty fifteen

to eradicate transgenderism from public life. And it's a good question. I'm glad people are talking about that. That was the point of my speech. What would it mean to eradicate the preposterous ideology of transgenderism from public life at every level? Put simply, eradicating transgenderism from public life would mean behaving as American society did before, say twenty fifteen. Before round twenty fifteen, we did not have any acceptance of transgenderism

in public life. Also, in just like a grim moment of sourality, in the middle of that clip, Knowles does an adder read for a company called Rabbit Air, which is an air purifier company who has an office in Pasadena, California. She's fucking oh ba. Knowles goes on to blame Obama for leading this wave of trans acceptance in public life. Now, this whole twenty fifteen thing is very funny to me because in a lot of ways, it was actually kind of easier to be trans in twenty fifteen that it

is right now. But I think that this is mostly that like for conservatives, it's mostly that young trans people are simply more visible now, mostly due to things like TikTok. Like there's just there's a more visible presence of trans joy and trans people living, and that is angering conservatives. So they think it's just like some new recent thing.

And because Michael Knowles did an ad break for Rabbit Air, who again has an office and Pacady, Ina, California, I too, am going to do an ad break for our fine sponsors. All right, and we're back. We are we are almost done. I only have like one or two more clips to show I like the ad for Rabbit Air that just played Chuck Off. So in Michael knowles case, I think he isn't even primarily against just like trans equality, he is against modernity. Now, when I say modernity, I'm not

referring to like industrial civilization. It's many consequences for humans and the planet at large. Right wing anti modernism is very different than like anarchist ANTISTI of ideas. This idea of modernism isn't really tied to industrial developments. It's more linked to a psycho spiritual antagonism against modern social progress.

It's more akin to the esoteric super fascist Julius Vola's idea of like revolt against the modern world and how liberalism is like a plague against moral society and causing maths degeneracy. Michael knowles own Twitter bio reads quote, I am completely opposed to the error of the modernists. Again, when these people tell tell you who they are, you

have to believe them. Um. Just this week, during a speech at the University of Buffalo, Knowles laid out a plan to attack quote the illogic of so called gay marriage, the rights to fornication, and the feminists who loosened divorce laws. Yeah, I think it's I think it's worth pointing out here, right. I think I think the actual reason why twenty fifteen is the year that he picked out of his head is at twenty fifteen is the year that game that

game marriage was legalized by the Supreme Court. Sure like that that like ninety nine percent chats that he means like twenty fifteen before gay marriage is the thing that he wants to go back to. But here's here's here's a clip of him talking about how conservatives have continued to lose the battleground at a whole bunch of topics and how he's going to try to win them back. Now, even many conservatives accept so called gay marriage, and they

have to. They have to accept gay marriage if they accept the illogic of the Sexual Revolution, which held that all sexual relations are fine and dandy so long as they're consensual. After the Sexual Revolution, the only test for sexual ethics became if it feels good, do it. For most of American history to nobody believes that too. For most of American history, there were all sorts of laws

against certain sexual behaviors. There were famously laws against sodomy, but there were lots of other laws as well, laws against fornication, laws against adultery, laws against plenty of other destructive sexual behaviors. Those laws around the books as recently as two thousand and three, when liberals on the Supreme Court discovered in the Constitution some sort of right to all of those things. He wants all these things to

become illegal. Again, that that is his political project. And to quote airy drenand quote none of this is a theoretical exercise. After banning drag or gender I firm and care for minors, the Tennessee House yesterday passed a bill that would allow local officials to refuse same sex, interfaith,

or interracial marriages unquote. Now, last year we titled some of our episodes that cover this wave of anti trans attacks quote like the War on Transpeople unquote, and even like considering the origin of this podcast, I am often hesitant to entertain fantasies of actual civil conflict in the United States, But in this case, like they are the ones who are killing us and trying to make our very existence illegal, it is them who has initiated this

type of militant language. The last clip I have here is of Matt Walsh talking about just that we aren't even remotely done. Okay, this is honestly only the beginning. We've got a lot more in store for you. I promised you a year ago that we were going to war here, and I kept that promise. I'll keep this one too. There's much more to be done, that needs to be done, and we aim to do it. So the battle continues. Whether you like it or not. The

battle continues. So a few days ago, the Governor of Mississippi brought Matt Walsh to speak during an official press conference about the signing of House Bill one one two five banning gender affirming healthcare for minors. The presence of Matt Walsh at a State of Mississippi official press conference is a clear example of fascism being inserted into the governmental process. And speaking of bills, I'm going to hand this over to Mia to now talk about some of

the legislative stuff. Yay, yeah, wow, So this is gonna be a long one, I'm sorry, folks. Yeah. Unfortunately, the list of ways in which they are trying to kill us as long. So, yeah, this is this is the inevitable result of that. In one of the very early clips, right, I think, how I can't remember which one it was, one of the maybe it was Kennis Owen has talked about like our publicist at Media Matters, right, Yeah, And I think, you know, I think there is in a

lot of cases. I think there's a lot of merit and not like covering this ship when it's specifically people like like very specific, Like you know Alex Jones does this, right, Well, he'll say something like specifically incredibly inflammatory is a way to start to get media attention to him. Yeah, But in this case, we can't fucking do that because all of the policy proposals that these people want are getting actually fucking implemented. So here here's from the Human Rights

Campaign about how bad things have gotten. Less than two months into twenty twenty three, Human Rights Campaign is already tracking three hundred and forty anti LGBTQ bills that have been introduced in state houses across the country. I think four hundred. Oh yeah, it's this, Yeah, I was gonna get this. So those numbers are from early Those numbers are from early February, right or mid February. Now, yeah,

it's something like over four hundred. It's really hard to get actual totals because there are so fucking many of them. One hundred and fifty of those would specifically restrict the rights of transgender people, the highest number of bills targeting transgender people in a single year to date. They also note, as everyone else does, every single successive year breaks the

record for the most number of bills targeting trans people. Yeah, those numbers are already out of date, and okay, so on the one hands, right there, there are there are real problems with projects that just track the raw number of bills, and you know, okay, on the one hands, the world like the raw numbers are I think a good way of actually getting people to sort of understand like the level of threat that is happening, like just sort of just sort of the raw magnitude of the threats.

On the other hand, okay, it's kind of misleading in the sense that almost all these bills are going to fail because most of these most most and this is the incredible important thing here, most but not all, most of these bills are made by just random state lawmakers

and no political backing. And this allows organizations, you know, sort of like like a lot of the nonprofit groups who work in these sort of legislative spaces to like claim credit for defeating like ninety percent of the bills, and it's like, well, no, like most of those, like almost none of them we're ever going to pass in

the first place. And the second thing that it does is it puts this sort of cloud out, which makes it really really difficult, you know, if you're just being if you're if you're trying to follow right, the sort of legislative process here, it gets very very hard because it's it's very difficult to sort out which bills have any chance of passing in which ones are just some random dipshit like first term like I don't know someone some like first term lawmaker from like a part of

Mississippi that is two lawmakers right, like. But so my, my, my solution to this is we're going to run through the bills had ever already been passed. Um, I guess we should just started in Mississippi because we've sort of already talked about Yeah, Governor Tate Reeves inviting that wallshy have a speech at the bill signing ceremony. So in Mississippi a law was passed called the reap Act, which you know, that's. That's great. It's a that's that tells

you exactly what they fucking I mean by this. Uh, this is a bill that bans and this this is a very very common pattern for bills. Um. It bans miners from getting hormones, from getting any kind of gender affirming surgery, and blocks anyone from getting puberty blockers. Um. We've said this before, We'll say it again. All of this stuff is good. Kids should be able to get these things. Kids should be able to g these things easier. They they just unfathomably improve the lives of the child

you get them. All of the data supports this notion. This has been normalized for literally decades. Yeah, and I mean puberty blockers in particular is one of the things that's become the focus of like, oh, it's not safe. It's like puberty blockers were the compromise position, right, And this is something that I think has been lost in a lot of debate about this, because you know, we've gotten to the point where everything is being banned, but

puberty blockers. You know, we're a compromise position because you could give people puberty blockers without like actually giving trans kids to hormones. That they need, and even that, you know, we're at a point where stays there's just full on banning kids from getting them. This sucks, it's awful. It

is killing trans kids. Um. Mississippi also has a ban one of the other things about this specific one and not all the states are doing it do this, but this specific bill also bans state money from going to any institution that practices like does like gender form for miners.

They also have an anti sports law, so you can, you know, you can see the sort of like how how the dominoes went down in terms of like, sorry, you can see how the dominoes fell down in terms of where it started and where it was going right for at first you get your anti bathroom log. Then you you get your sort of like keep trans people

out of sports, and then and then you get healthcare laws. Yea, yeah, yeah, So I Will also has a band that's you know, but basically identical identical band on hormone gender firming surgery, and puberty blockers. They also passed a bill that bands trans kids from using bathrooms and locker rooms according to

their gender and elementary, middle and high schools. And I want to talk a little bit about this, because this is going to lead to kids getting fucking raped, because it turns out if you force a trans girl into a men's locker room, things are going to go real fucking bad for them. They don't give a shit about this, right, They simply do not care. Um, but that's you know that that that's that that that's the actual substantive results. Um.

I will also pass. I've seen it variously refers to as like I don't say trans or like I don't say LGBTQ plus bill. This is a bill that prohibits teachers who teach either from kindergarteners through sixth grade from teaching about trans niss like at all. You can't teach about gender. You can't teach about like sex. You can't teach about you know, you can't teach about the fact that you can, in fact change your gender and it's good and cool. Um. The Human Rights Campaign says quote.

This bill would also prohibit schools from providing gender reforming accommodations for transgender students without parental consents, and would require school staff to out transgender students. UM. So I read this bill and it's not clear to me how it requires that but that's what the lawyers are saying, and I'm not a lawyer, so it may or may not

require that. This is another thing, very specifically, This isn't everything that that that that's been happening in the sort of news where waves of these laws are laws that specifically require school counselors, teachers, and school staff to out their kids, like to out kids to their parents, which is unbelievably dangerous. In the last few years alone, there have been a bunch of trans people who are just

killed by their parents. And you know, forcibly adding people is like you you're you're exposing them to the risk of abuse, You're exposing them to the risk of unsafe housing environments. No, it's just a little soft whack by your grandma, I remember, just a little a little tap on the head. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna fucking beat

you to death. So these bills in Iowa have been passed by the House in the Senate and they're just like they're just like sitting on a desk waiting for the government to sign them, and the governor's going to So yeah, that's that situation in Iowa. In Arkansas, you have the hormone pubuty blocker, gender firming surgery ban. The Arkansas one is on hold because you know, and this is a this is true for a couple of these, is that people have done legal challenges on it, and yeah,

our Arkansas particulars had a huge legal fight. We still don't know how that's I mean, the legal fights are going on for like a year. We still haven't gotten ruling on it yet. They also have a ban on transcids competing in sports. Alabama made it a Class C felony punishable by oh to a decade in prison. To give trensch Endry kids hormones, puberty blockers, gender affirming surgery.

This was also interesting because it's the only bill so most of these ones when they do when they say minors, right, it's until you're eighteen. You can't get it for whatever reason. Alabama, it also bans eighteen year olds from getting any of these things. You just have to be nineteen. Yeah, part part of the bill, you know about hormone blockers, So okay, So specifically, the part of the parts of this bill that are about hormones and hormone blockers are on hold

pending sort of resolution to legal challenges. But the judge was like, fuck it, you can do with the surgery band, So that sucks. Alabama also has bills that you know, have the whole trans kids in school can't use the right bathroom and you know, teachers, counselors and other school officials have to out them. They also have another dose trans bill that does a very similar thing about bands

teachers from talking about transits until fifth grade. I think a lot of these bills are written by like lobbying groups who just be and paced the same thing. And so I see a whole bunch of different states. I will say there are weird differences in them, like so you'll see like different completely scattered shot like definitions of what hormones are, or like like some somebody's bills trying

to find what a woman is. And it's very funny because they have to like do all this weird stuff about like like clusters of like chromosomes, but also there's like chromosomal diseases, Like you can't do this, like a fuck off. It's it's so funny. We should also mention that, like there will be more reporting on this later, this bill.

This episodes are ready too long, but there have been a bunch of emails released from a bunch of anti trans sort of organizer and fake scientists and stuff about how they've been coordinating all of this, and a lot of the experts that they use for testimony for all off they show up to these capitals are like, are exactly the same people, And the big guy they have saying that puberty blockers is unsafe like has never worked with a transperson in their life and has no fucking

idea what they're talking about. So you know, this is this is this is this is fun. Utah also bands also passed a band banning gender affirming surgeries, puberty blockers, and hormones. They also have a band I also have a bill forcing students and counselors to out their students to their families. Last year, Utah Governor Spencer Cox was praised by the media for a symbolic veto of a bill that made it illegal for trans students to compete

in sports. Cox signed this fucking bill. Signed, signed, the one signed, the one that bands of gender affirming surgeries, pubty blockers, and hormones. Yeah, I think we're talked about this last year. Yeah, I want to we had we talked about some Utah thing last Yeah, well we talked. Yeah, the thing we talked about him vetoing that bill. Um, I want to read his thing for why why he packed? Why so he vetoed the bill that was less bad and signed the one that's worse. And I'm going to

read what he said about this quote. While we understand our words will be of little comfort to those who disagree with us, we sincerely hope that we can treat our transgender families with more love and respect as we work to better understand the science and consequences behind these procedures. Fuck off, Fuck all the way off. He's trying to

avoid the Nuremberg trials. Look as a neutrals. As a neutral objective journalist, I'm obligated to inform me that Spencer Cox was a full time missionary from the Mormon Church, which is currently embroiled in a pedophilias gandal after is revealed to have systematically protected church members and members of the clergy who sexually abused children from church sanctions and

legal repercussions. Under Utah law, clergy have the right of penitent privilege, which means they are not required to report child abuse to the authorities as long as the information is revealedgere confession. Both the Mormon and Catholic churches, along with Jehovah's witnesses, have lobbied against all efforts have changed this law. Earlier this month, survivors at the Mormon Church rallied in support of a bill that would have endependent privilege.

Governor Cox publicly announced his support for the bill being considered and in legislature, but did nothing to pressure legislators to vote for and as of time of recording, the bill is dead, leaving the church free to protect yet another round of pedophiles. Also, his name is Cox. Yeah, so South Dakota also did. I could do this for every fucking governor on this list, and I decided I was going to do it once and not do it for all the rest of them, but fuck him. South

Dakota has a sports bill. They also have a ban on puberty blockers, hormones, degenerate framing surgery. Arizona has a NATI bathroom bill. Tennessee has a sports ban. It has the basically identical ban on puberty blockers, hormones, and gender affirming surgery, and it also has this. It also has what's been kind of a new innovation. I guess which

is the anti they have an anti drag law. Yes, this is the one that's gotten the most amount attraction, and it sparked some debate over how much of it can actually be applied against just trans people living their lives because it is tied to the state's pre existing obscenity laws. So there's been some debate about this. We will, we will. We will learn more about this as it starts being enforced by law enforcement and the court system. Yeah,

I want to talk about it. It's not good. Like, yeah, I want to talk about it a little bit more so the specific bill, it makes it illegal for anyone to be underage and a drag show. And you know, it basically applies like the rules around the sex offender list for where you can have drag shows. So Governor William Brian Lee, who signed this bill, did drag in

high school, which I'm saying. No, I'm saying here not to out the hypocrisy, like Governor Lee doesn't see anything any hypocrisy here, but to get across the fact the Republicans who want to do this stuff will still be able to This bill will targeted a very very specific group of people. As Jules gil Peterson points out in your piece to left hand of the law, which people should go read, this is an attack on a very specific, precarious class of workers, many of whom are trans, some

of whom aren't, who do drag performances. This is this is it's it's it's a very specific attempt to sort of like neutralize, Okay, it's targeting this very specific middle ground between sort of like being in the formal economy and doing sex work. There are an enormous amount of trans people who do sex work. Drag shows provide a way to sort of like not exactly enter the middle class, but it provides a legal way for trans people to

like have a job that's not fucking that. And those and those workers are specifically the people being targeted by this. I don't know. The other thing that's unclear is, for example, like if a podcast does a live show where there's trans people, like, what will happen? We don't know. But the other thing I want to say about this, right

is everyone's talking about this fucking drag bill. I have seen like basically zero discussion of the of the fact that they also past the same fucking band on puberty blockers, hormones and gender affirming surgery, which is way way more destructive and damaging. It's like but directly attacking. Yeah, so I think I want to push back about the like, yeah, like what you're talking about about, like what will happen if you do a live show? Like what will happen?

Because to trans people who live in these states, the state I live in as a red state, well it's not supposed to be, but as a red state, and you know, is considering a drag bill and things like that. And I recognize that they're like aimed, they're targeted specifically at drag performances, but there's a fairly easy interpretation of a lot of these things that literally says I can go to the grocery store. And that is how like a lot of transpeople in Tennessee are viewing this right now.

And so I don't think it's it's a disproportionate thing that the drag bill is something that a lot of people are focusing on. I mean, we all care also about the hormone issues or whatever, but the Tennessee passing the drag law that other states are considering is a

new bad thing that could criminalize our very public existence. Yeah, that is part of the kind of discussion around this laws ties to the pre existing obscenity laws, and that will heavily depend on the discretion that law enforcement chooses to employ this law, and if it gets taken up to the court system, how the court's going to interpret this law. So it is like the vagueness is part of the point because that causes a lot of fear because you really just don't know what it all entails.

And yeah, that's weird because you don't know if you going to the store is going to be a felony or not, And how are you supposed to live like that? Yeah, and it I don't know. The sort of pervasive atmosphere of fear is definitely like part of the point of this, right, Like part of the way the sort of extermination campaign works is by forcing everyone to sort of live in fear of what they can and can't do, and also live in fear specifically of the police increasing the amount

of violence that they're deploying. Yeah, I mean, and all the stuff like we talked about, they're specifically targeting people's ability to exist in a public life, which is whenever you want to do a genocide, that's one of the things you do is you make people unable to exist in public life. This is literally what the Nazis did, right, Like you section them off into their own little communities

where they cannot actually leave and enter into the outside world. Yep. So, so far as of writing this, there are seven states with bands on gender, firm and care for Youth. I was to become number eight whenever the governor gets around as signing the bill. There are nineteen states that ban trans athletes from competing. There are a number of states.

Oh so other soft forgot much. So there's like literally while I was like, while I was like waiting to record this episode, there were a few things that happened in like the legislature. So in Florida, there was a bill that got just got out of committee that would ban LGBTQ books like in all libraries, not just sort of school libraries. So I don't know that that actually has a real chance of passing because it's Florida. There's a lot of movement right now. The situation is very

very sort of fluid and bad. Yes, yeah, I would say it it is. Um. I think one closing note, I will save my kind of my ending thesis to start the next episode, just because we're going on so long here. But the last thing I will say is I be wary of social media accounts that to depend on ramping up and spreading panic to grow their follower accounts. Typically news news aggregation accounts are not the best source of information because their existence is entirely dependent on causing PANICUM.

So like look into the things like beyond just a tweet, like look into stuff before before you spread it. Um. Just as like a general rule of thumb. I'm not calling anybody out here in any way, I'm just saying it is. It is a good practice to get into, especially when we're looking into stuff that is about our very existence being criminalized, and that can be very depressing. Um. And it can suck to be constantly bombarded with. So it's good to stay connected to stuff that's going on

in your own state. It's good to stay connected to bills that have a decent trends of passing. But but be wary of of of of undo panic spreading just constantly NonStop, because a big part of being trends needs to also be like finding joy in living. Yeah, I think. I think. The very last thing I want to say to lead into this next episode is We're not fucking done yet. We are still here. We're going to continue

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