The Latest Peace Deal, Part 1 - podcast episode cover

The Latest Peace Deal, Part 1

Jun 13, 202426 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

Shereen explains the most recent US proposed peace deal for Hamas and Israel and the events leading up to its announcement.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Speaker 1

All Zone media.

Speaker 2

Hello, and welcome to it could happen here. This is Sharene and today we are going to be talking about the current quote unquote peace plan that was presented by the US and what they say is their attempt to end the genocide in Rasee. They call it a war, and I call it what it is, which is a genocide. Earlier this month, Joe Biden announced what he claimed was an Israeli peace plan to bring about an eventual ceasefire

in Jsee. But according to journalists and anyone with eyes, the new plan is almost indistinguishable from previous plans proposed by Hamas. We're going to get into the details of the US plan in a little bit, but first I want to address the immense loss of Palestinian life that has led up to this plan, because if the plan is successful, it would usher in a ceasefire to a genocide that has killed more than thirty seven thousand Palestinians, which is a very low estimate, and the majority of

these deaths are women and children. Only have Palestinian children been brutally slaughtered for months, but Rauzza now has the largest population of child amputees in the world. In November, Children and RAZDA hosted a press conference in English to beg the world for life. It's June now, and all

we've seen since then is massacre after massacre. And while I think drawing attention to the children and the women who have been slaughtered is immensely necessary and important, I also want to emphasize that Palestinian men are not expendable, and not mentioning the immense loss that we have suffered across the board with men included, implies to the world that Arab men are not worth mourning, not worth saving nor protecting, that they are all terrorists or terrorists to

be who are simply killed as casualties in the quote fog of war. I also think that the mention of children is specifically used as a way to at least try to make the world empathize and fucking feel something about the lives that have been stolen. Parents literally hold up the limp and decapitated bodies of their babies in its broadcasts worldwide. And yet the dehumanization of Arabs runs so deep that such graphic displays of horror and death

are considered normal. No one bats an eye. It is insane that two hundred and seventy four Palestinians were slaughtered for four prisoners of war who could have been released in a prisoner exchange exchanges and deals that Israel has repeatedly rejected. We will get into this more in this episode.

And people are celebrating this shameful military operation which US troops were a part of, and ignoring the Palestinians that were killed and murdered in the process, further emphasizing that Palestinian life is not as important as Israeli life by a huge margin. In in case you didn't hear the details about this operation that I'm talking about, US and Israeli troops infiltrated a refugee camp in trucks disguised as humanitarian aid to trojan horse their way into further massacreing

and maiming people who were already being forcibly starved. Are you hearing this one more time? They infiltrated a refugee camp and trucks disguised as humanitarian aid. Israeli special forces were also disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live. When they entered the buildings where they thought the hostages were being held. Remember in January when there was also video evidence of the IOF pretending to be medical staff in a hospital and then shooting and killing

unarmed doctors, nurses, and patients. Oh and then there was the discovery of at least three mass graves at Elshiffa Hospital, where bodies, including many wearing scrubs, were found zip tied and buried in piles. Israel has been doing this for months and years and decades, and they've been getting away with it for months and years and decades. No one is hiding how they feel anymore. They are out here showing us with their actions. It's not ambiguous, it is

not confusing. They are making it very simple. They are making it crystal clear. Palestinians do not matter, and Israel's intention is to continue their ethnic cleansing of Palestine. What's happening in Lza is not about the hostages, and it has never been about the hostages. If that isn't clear to you by now, you have not been paying attention. A few things about the hostages. Hamas has repeatedly offered since last year to release all hostages in exchange for

Israel releasing all Palestinian prisoners. As of November first. According to Human Rights Watch, Israel held nearly seven thousand Palestinians in its prisons, and many of those held captive by Israel are not convicted of any crime. At least three thousand and six hundred and sixty Palestinians being held in Israel are under what is called administrative detention. An administrative detainee is somewhat held in prison without charge nor trial

without charge, no crime committed. I want to take a moment to bring up a report that came out recently that's not getting nearly enough attention. It's truly horrific, and I don't know how people are just glossing over it. But New York Times recently reported that Palestinians are being tortured and abused in Israeli prisons. Two journalists from the New York Times spent three months interviewing Israeli soldiers as well as Palestinians who were detained at one particular prison.

I'm not going to pretend I know how to pronounce it. It's spelled sde space Tei m An said Teman. I'm just going to go with that. But essentially, Israel is carrying out a policy of systematic torture in this army base, and this army base has been used as a detention camp for Palestinians from the Gaza Strip. This was all confirmed by a New York Times investigation. Reports of abuse at this site had already emerged in both Israeli and Arab media, and this was followed by outcries from local

and international rights groups about the horrific conditions there. Apparently, it was mainly used as a quote, makeshift interrogation center, but now it has become a major focus for the accusations that the Israeli military has mistreated its detainees, including people who were later determined to have no ties to

Hamas or any other armed groups. The investigation revealed that at least twelve hundred Palestinian civilians were detained at this site in quote demeaning conditions, without the ability to plead their cases to adjudge for up to seventy five days and additionally denied access to lawyers for up to ninety days.

Eight former detainees, all of whom the military confirmed were held at the site and spoke on the record, said they had been punched, kicked, and beaten with batons rifle butts and a handheld metal detector while they were in custody. Others said that they had been forced to wear a diaper while being interrogated, and that they had received electric

shocks during their interrogation. According to The New York Times, most of these testimonies were corroborated by interviews conducted by officials from the unr WA, the UN Agency for Palistine Refugees. The agency interviewed hundreds of returning detainees who reported widespread abuse at this site, as well as other Israeli detention facilities, including the beatings and the use of an electric probe.

An Israeli soldier who served at this site also disclosed to The New York Times that his fellow soldiers often bragged about beating detainees, and he observed many instances of such treatment. He was speaking on condition of anonymity to avoid prosecution, but he said a detainee had been taking for treatment at the site's makeshift field hospital with a bone that had been broken during his detention, while another person was briefly taken out of sight and then returned

with bleeding around his rib cage. I strongly urge you to read the New York Times piece in full. It details the most horrific things I've read in recent memory. I would be remiss to not mention at least a few of them, just you understand the severity. But this report essentially proves that Palestinians are experiencing sexual violence and have experienced sexual violence in Israeli prisons. This is one example.

Mister l Hemlowie, a senior nurse, said a female officer had ordered two soldiers to lift him up and press his rectum against a metal stick that was fixed to the ground. He said the stick penetrated his rectum for roughly five seconds, causing it to bleed and leaving him in unbearable pain. A leaked draft of the UNRWA report

detailed at interview that gave a similar account. It cited a forty one year old detainee who said that interrogators made him sit on something like a hot metal stick that felt like fire, and he said that another detainee died after they put the electric stick up his anus. Doctor l Hemloui also recalled being forced to sit in a chair wired with electricity. He said he was shocked so often that after initially urinating uncontrollably. He then stopped

urinating for several days. He said that he too had been forced to wear nothing but a diaper to stop him from soiling the floor. Ibrahim Shaheen, thirty eight, a truck driver, He said he was shocked roughly half a dozen times while sitting in a chair. Officers had accused him of concealing information about the location of dead hostages, which ended up having no connection to him at all.

Another man, mister Beckett, said that he was also forces to in a chair wired with electricity, sending a current pulsing through his body that made him pass out. Mister Beckett also said, along with other detainees that corroborated this, he only received roughly three meager snacks on most days, mostly bred with small quantities of cheese or jam or tuna.

The military said the food provisions had been approved by an authorized nutritionist in in order to maintain their health, but according to several of these detainees, that's not nearly enough, and they lost more than forty pounds during their detention. Again, I urge you to read the report in full. It needs more attention than it is getting, but it is horrific and this is proof of the vile mistreatment of Palestinians.

And it's from the New York Times. If you need a source that you quote unquote trust more than an El Jazeera or something which makes no sense. But for those who do there it is. Now let's go back to the topic at hand. We were talking about the hostages and how Hamas had offered many times in the past to release all the hostages in exchange for releasing Palestinian prisoners, and despite Hamasa's offers, Israel has never agreed to any deal which involved the release of all Israeli hostages.

On October ninth, two days after October seventh, Hamas offered to release all the civilian hostages in exchange for the IOF not entering the Gaza Strip, but Israel rejected that offer, and many hostages have died since then, which could have been avoided if Israel cared. A few stats. One hundred and five Israeli hostages were freed via a temporary ceasefire in November of last year. Four other hostages were released

by Hamas. Three hostages were killed by IOWF quote friendly fire because the IOF considered them a threat as they were waving white flags. During four Israeli quote rescue missions, one hostage was killed one soldier was saved in what Israel called Operation Golden Hand. On February twelfth of this year, two hostages were saved and at least ninety four Palestinians

were killed. And then on June eighth, what is now being called Operation are Non, four Israeli hostages were rescued and at least two hundred and seventy four Palestinians were killed. In a statement released after the attack, Hamas said, in exchange for them the four Israeli hostages, your own army killed three of your own captives in the same attack,

one of them holding a US citizenship. And it must be mentioned that the Israeli attacks on Leis have also killed an unknown number of hostages in hamas captivity, as well as the at least thirty seven thousand Palestinians killed since October seventh. Relentlessly bombing a tiny strip of land or Israel knows its hostages are located doesn't really indicate that Israel gives a shit about the lives of the hostages. The hostages are pawns being used in a disgusting political game.

And I have seen several unhinged and deranged comments about this latest operation, which again killed two undred seventy four Palestinians in including children, in the process of saving four hostages. The comments range in severity and psychopathy, but a lot of them are basically saying how else were they supposed to get the hostages back? And Israel must rescue its people by any means necessary, and that this is what

you get when you mess with Israel. But after reading the previous numbers, it is an absolute fact that the only mass release of hostages has come through ceasefire and prisoner exchanges. More hostages have been killed by the Israeli army than rescued by them. A ceasefire deal means freed hostages without mass death. And so if Israel really cared about the lives of these hostages, why on earth wouldn't they agree to a deal that can guarantee their safety.

I want to take a quick tangent only to mention that the number of Palestinians killed in Raze is most likely far, far greater than the reported number, because the infrastructure that was used to document the death toll has been decimated along with nearly everything else in Lesse. The number thirty seven thousand also does not include the thousands and thousands of Palestinians buried underneath rubble who are unable

to be found nor retrieved. The Health Ministry's director of International Cooperation in the West Bank, doctor Yassir Bozzia, says he works closely with Ministry colleagues in Rose. When he spoke with NPR in late January from his office in Ramalla, he said and estimated ten thousand people were missing and presumed dead under the rubble in razz But even that number was low. It's like a snowball, he said. It's only an estimation. The actual number is much much higher.

Bozzia and doctors Andrez say the death count published by the Health Ministry also largely excludes people who have died from a lack of adequate treatment, disease, and other impacts from the war, like hunger. The death toll only includes people killed by the occupation bombardment, he said. The Health

Ministry described its casualty figures as those resulting from Israeli aggression. Bozzias, as a colleague in Graze told him that the only way to really know how many people have died is to count the number of people still alive compared with the population of Raze before October seventh. He said that because of the continued brutal genocide going on in Raze, it is impossible to have the real number. It will

only be revealed after the violence has stopped. The death toll also does not make clear how many militants are among the dead. Israel says its forces have killed more than ten thousand fighters in Razze, but Israel has also not provided any sort of evidence or detailed information to back up its estimate. In every interview, every Israeli correspondent or spokesperson has given They always given number for the estimated fighters or terrorists killed in Razze, but they're very

unsure about how many civilians have been killed. And now to go back to the US peace plan that is basically identical to previous peace plans proposed by and agree to buy Hamas. What does this US plan propose? This plan has three stages. The first stage proposes to involve a six week ceasefire, during which the Israeli army will withdraw from the populated areas of Razze, hostages including the elderly and women, would be exchanged for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

Civilians would also return to all of Braze, with six hundred trucks carrying humanitarian aid flooding the enclaved daily. Biden said the second phase would see Hamas and Israel negotiate terms for a permanent end to hostilities. Biden said the ceasefire will still continue as long as negotiations continue. In the third phase, a permanent ceasefire would follow, facilitating the reconstruction of the Resids Strip, including sixty percent of clinics, schools, universities,

and religious buildings damaged or destroyed by Israeli forces. This plan is nearly identical to a previous plan that Hamas had already agreed to on May sixth, a deal which Israel ended up rejecting. We will talk more about that deal later on, but for now, let's focus on the US's plagiarized version of this plan and who supports it. But first, let's take an head break and we'll be right back, Okay, And we are back so soon after the announcement of the US deal, Hamas said that it

views the proposals in this deal positively. This week, US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln tool arrived in the Middle East on his latest trip to the region, which he said will focus on Washington's Gaza truce proposal and the future of the Palestinian territory. B Lincoln met Egyptian President ELCSI and Cairo on Monday, repeating US calls for Hamas

to accept the truce deal. Speaking to reporters before leaving Egypt, b Lincoln squarely blamed Haamas for prolonging the quote unquote war, saying that Hamas is an outlier in the region for not agreeing to the US deal. He told reporters, my message to governments throughout the region, to people throughout the region, if you want to cease fire, press Hamas to say yes. Blincoln arrived in Israel later on that same day and met with nan Yahu. He will further hold talks in

Cutthoud and Jordan this week. The State Department said Blincoln reaffirmed the quote ironclad US commitment to Israel's security during his meeting with Nannyahu. A curious note is that while blincn portrayed the truce plan as Biden's proposal, when Biden made the deal public. Initially, he said it was an

Israeli plan. This could be just a little slip because Biden is very old, or it could be a slip that just confirms what we've all known to be the case all along, that the US and Israel are one and the same, especially when it comes to their political interests in military power. And while US officials have insisted that Israel agreed to this proposal, various Israeli officials, including the n YAHOO, have vowed to continue fighting until the

elimination of Hamas. Just days before Biden announced his initiative, a top Israeli officials said the military would fight in Jjsee until at least the end of the year. On the other hand, Hamas has said that it will only agree to a deal that would lead to a lasting end to the war and the full withdrawal of Israeli troops from Rasee. Hamas reiterated its position on Monday after its political chief Ismael Hanie, met with officials from the

Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a smaller armed group in Duha. Hamas said in a statement. The two delegations discussed the indirect negotiations and efforts to end the war, stressing that any agreement must include a permanent ceasefire, comple leet withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, reconstruction, ending the siege, and a serious

prisoner's exchange. Hamas previously called for a explicit commitment from Israel to a lasting ceasefire, and despite the lack of clarity in the Israeli position, Biden administration officials have repeatedly said that Hamas is the only hurdle to ending the war in Gaza. The US blaming Hamas for prolonging what it calls a quote unquote war again not a war, a genocide is ridiculous. Hamas has accepted previous peace deals.

It has offered previous peace deals. Israel has been the one to reject them, and then the US comes along and just repackages one of these previously agreed on deals that Hamas had endorsed and has the audacity to then

blame Hamas for obstructing peace. Give me a break. Additionally, the US truce plan does not outline plans for the future of Gaza after the war, but the US government has said that it would not accept Hama's rule in the territory The Biden administration says it wants a quote reformed Palestinian Authority aka the PA to eventually govern Gaza, but the Israeli government has ruled out allowing the occupied West Bank based PA to govern Huzze, with Natanyahu like

inning FATA, the dominant faction in the PA to Hamas. Other support for the plan has come from some Israeli politicians, as well as the families of the hostages and the international community. Benny Gantz, a centrist member of Israel's three man war Cabinet and Prime Minister Benjamin and Yahu's principal rival, spoke positively of the proposal and asked his two colleagues in the war cabinet, Nan Yahoo and Defense Minister Yov Galant,

to convene to discuss the quote next steps. Gance had previously threatened to leave the cabinet by June eighth if no plan for Gaza beyond the war had been agreed on, and on Sunday, June ninthly announced his resignation. Gans's resignation does not immediately pose a threat to Naanyahu, who still controls a majority coalition in parliament, but it does mean that the Israeli leader becomes more heavily reliant on his

far right allies. Ganz said that the Enyaho was making quote total victory impossible and that the government needs to put a return of the hostages seized on October seventh by Hamas above political survival. Gans is a popular former military chief, and he joined the Nyahu's government shortly after the Hamas attack in a show of unity. His presence also boosted Israel's credibility with its international partners. Gans has

good working relations with US officials. Ganz canceled a planned news conference the night of June eighth, after the for Israeli hostages were rescued from Gaza earlier in the day, which again was Israel's largest operations since October. Another reminder that two hundred and seventy four palest Indians, including children,

were killed in the assault. Another Israeli politician who supported the US peace plan was opposition leader Yard Lipid, who also promised to support the plan, pledging support of his party yesh Atid, which translates from Hebrew to there is a future if those from ultranationalists and far right parties withdraw support. United Nations Secretary General Antonia Gutierrez also endorsed the plan, as have many of Israel's political allies, including the UK and Germany. So who doesn't like the plan.

Much of the opposition to the peace Plan has come from within the Israeli cabinet. N Yahoo said any initiative that did not include a quote elimination of Hamas's capacity to govern and make war was a non starter. In his announcement on Friday May thirty first, Biden seemed to indicate that he regarded Hamas's presence within Gaza to have been so downgraded that a repeat of October seventh was impossible.

As expected, the ultranationalists and extreme right members of Na Nyahu's right wing coalition, which includes it Tamar Bengavie and Bezileel Simotric, threaten to withdraw from the government and cause its collapse if the proposals were accepted. So as far as Israel's politics are concerned, it seems like the outcome may end up depending on what El Jazeira describes as

quote parliamentary arithmetic. The far right in ultranationalist parties hold fourteen seats, while Gansa's block only has eight seats, meaning the far right has far more influence on a prime minister who wants to stay in power. As for Lapid, his seventeen seats are offered as support only in what pertains to the peace proposals. This leaves that in Yahoo reliant on the far right block. As far as the

deal being accepted, that is still not clear. Despite what the US says, the families of Israeli hostages are putting pressure on the government to accept the deal, as are some parts of Israel's political class, but pressures to reject the deal are just as strong, and it will remain to be seen whether Ntan Yahoo chooses his own survival

or the return of the hostages. But if one thing is clear, it is that Netan Yahoo does not really care about the hostages because the IOF under his command continues to bombard areas where the hostages can be held. And may I remind you that the IOWEF have already killed Israeli hostages that they have mistakenly identified as threats. Speaking of threats, I'm kidding. There is no ad break

and there is no threat. That's the end of part one and if you want to listen to part two, tune in tomorrow talking about the history of Hamas and how we got here. So yeah, see you then three Palestine.

Speaker 1

It could Happen yere as a production of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts and cool Zone Media, visit our website cool zonemedia dot com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or where every listen to podcasts. You can find sources for It Could Happen here, updated monthly at coolzonemedia dot com slash sources. Thanks for listening.

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android