Story Updates #1

are we doing? Is this the daily sidegeist? Is this is my Jack O'Brien, this is this is it could happen here. So we're talking today about the different things that are it here being the States this time. Um, but we're talking about basically, over the course of the past few months, we have covered a few different topics on the show. UM, some of which have already kind of had some results of had updates to what we've

already covered. So we're I'm gonna I'm gonna go through a list of like a three different things that we've covered and talk about kind of the updates in these stories. Um, you know, most of what we've covered around these topics have been like a mix of original reporting and interviews. So now there's been further further work down on this and this, we're not kind of update people. If you know, they're not as terminally online as us, maybe they have

not heard that there's been changes to these stories. And I wanted to kind of put together a nice little concise thing talking about updates to all the things we've covered. Um So, the first thing that we're gonna be talking a bit about is the Cops City in Atlanta, and

they defend the Atlanta Forest Collision. So I think like a day after our episode dropped on that, um, Atlantic City Council voted uh ten to or in favor of getting the militarized police training facility greenlit Um nicknamed Cops City. There was seventeen hours of public testimony. We're seven of the callers bilk out against the facility. Yeah, I mean that we had that happen in Portland. It doesn't Yeah, yeah, it never matters. It doesn't matter what the vast majority,

especially when there's especially when this money involved. Yeah, do not do not ever be deceived into thinking that you live in a democracy and that what you actually want to matter is in any way, shape or form, this is just not this is empirically not true. Like like sixty five percent of Texans periods support vaccine mandates in some instances, but the governor just made it illegal to do them ever. Um, Like it's it's it's that way

across the board, across the nation. Um. People ask sometimes because like you know, when you get into anarchists discussions of politics, there's a lot of criticism of democracy. I don't I think democracy is a lovely idea. I would like to try it something. It would be nice to get it ago. It would be nice to experience. So yeah, this city council voted to least the acres of city owned forest land to the Atlanta Police Foundation, UM, at least eighty five acres of which is going to be

slated to become the police training facility. UM. The facility is going to cost around ninety million dollars. Jesus Christ, I could train cops much cheaper than that, although training is the wrong word. Yeah, that is the wrong word for that. UM. So yeah, not nine million dollars. It's gonna include, it's gonna include a state of the art, explosive testing facility, firing ranges, emergency vehicle operations course, a classroom space UM, and an emergency and an emergency per space.

It'll probably learned to read, right. I'm sure it's for teaching people to do bad things. UM. There's going to be an emergency helicopter pad and an entire like mock town. It is good that they have the emergency helicopter pad because cops shoot each other with live ammunition all the time, and that that does happen. It does happen a lot.

So Yeah. The main backer for this project, UM is the Atlanted Police Foundation, which is a political advocacy group that you know, has a lot of funding from corporations and they try to you know, sway the political power of the city into giving more power to the police. UM. Uh huh. So the the interesting thing about this though, is like the vote was supposed to happen in August, UM, but it was rescheduled for early September after there was

a lot of public backlash around this proposal. UM. Then the vote that was supposed to happen on like thet got pushed back a whole day because there was too many callers saying that they didn't want the facility. So the vote got pushed back a day in September, but it stays still voted for it. Yeah, so thirty million dollars is going to be footed by taxpayers and the other sixty million is going to get paid for by the Police Foundation, which has a lot of different like

corporate donors. So that's that's that's that's that um. And of course it's on you know, on this forest land, which is like some of the you know, biggest forest land in any major American city. So you know, they're tearing down all this four to build this concrete city to train cops in. We Wel also mentioned that at the end of her interview with some of the people resisting this, they basically said, like, if the vote goes through,

resists is going to continue, so we will continue. There's probably gonna be efforts to like actually try to physically prevent the construction of this, But the next thing we're gonna be talking about is stop line three, um, which mean there was also you know, physical efforts to prevent that, but the type of efforts that people usually do in you know, modern green activism usually are a lot more performative or they're specifically to pressure to create scenes that

will try to convince politicians to veto the process. So it's not you know, it's it's it's different from the nineties when it was easier to like actually physically stop the prevention of things. Now a lot of the people who you know are trying to do this, it is they're not convinced that, you know, doing a lock box

is going to actually physically prevent it. What it's gonna do is create media coverage that truck that is going to hopefully convince politicians to be like, hey, maybe we shouldn't do this, And that's a hard bargain, right, That's not there's no saying that that's actually going to do the thing. You know, in the in the case of

stop Line three that did not stop Line three. Um. There was a really good uh um critique of the stop Line three protests posted in It's going down by an Indigenous anarchist who lives on that land who was like younger um, and they're you know, watching all of these you know, older indigenous anarchists, you know, keep on getting arrested and brutalized, like, but we're not actually doing anything, and the methods that we're doing that, the methods that

we're trying to, like, you know, gain public support. This isn't working in a specific context. Maybe we should reevaluate what we're actually doing. I know it's going down faced a bit of backlash for posting that critique, but I think that I think the critique is actually worth reading. Any any other thoughts on the Atlanta thing before I move on to the stop line three stuff? Um, No, no other than to note that I think the best

brisket I've ever had came from Atlanta. Okay, well, I'll probably I'll probably visit in Atlanta in the near future, maybe there with you, um, in which case I'll get some more motherfucking brisket. Yeah. It was actually the fun story. We were road tripping through town, me and another friend in another car, and we were talking over radios and a trucker got on like the channel we were on because we were talking about where to get barbecue, and he told us where to go. Um. It was neat.

It was like an actual nice like like moment of CB radio connection. Like this guy was just scanning the waves and found us, and I was like, oh, I can tell you where to go anyway, continue garrison. That was completely unrelated to stopping Line three. So the next thing is earlier, I think in September maybe August. I forget, it's been a while. We we we posted two episodes about me visiting the top Line three protests and the Earth First camp, and a lot of stuff has happened

since then. Um So you know, the main you know thing is that the pipe Planet has been finished now um and is basically getting is ready to be operated, or it probably already has some operation. It's unclear how much is being used right now, but it is done construction. It doubles the capacity of the original pipeline. It's gonna be doing like a seven hundred and sixty thousand barrels of oil a day. So in the e carves outland through through wet lands where people grow wild rice and

do hunting. Um. So, overall the past few months police arrested over nine hundred people, and it's there's been a lot of like felony charges specifically for locking down, which is pretty new because they're using felony theft charges for people just locking down to equipment. Yeah, that is an

unfortunate escalation. Yeah. Um, so by the time we posted our top line three episodes, we kind of already figured this was going to be the result that That's kind of how he ended the episode saying, there's been all this resistance, but probably it's going to get built, and you know, there's other things that we can learn from this movement going on into the future. Um. But the new developments that have happened. Um. I I did mention in the episodes how much Enbridge was directly paying cops.

That was something we already knew what was happening, but there was an article by The Guardian that really gave a lot of new information around how much police involvement there is with like with Enbridge, Like they are actually coordinating a lot. So overall, uh, Enbridge has reimbursed US police almost two and a half million dollars for arresting

and surveying protesters. UM also paying for like food, lodging gas, So like it's they're not not just not not not just paying wages, they're paying like for extra stuff as well. So at least at least two and a half million dollars that's been paid from the Canadian oil company. Um, you know including that includes officer officer training, UH, police

patrol routes, surveillance, all this kind of stuff. UM. The one one interesting thing that was noted in the article is that the company at Enbridge meets daily with police officers to discuss intelligence gathering and patrols UM. And when and when Enbridge wants protesters removed, it directly calls or sends letters to police, so they they actually like coordinate when to actually get police involved during protests, and they

have at least daily information meetings. The one other interesting thing besides just directly paying them for food, for you know, training, equipment and the coordination between en Bridge and people being on the ground, is um, how much that the Enbridge paid for uh like proactive safety patrols and specific like specific officer surveillance following alleged activists like home. So they would like trail specific cars for a long time and try to like do like in person surveillance on specific

people they thought were activists. And all of this time was paid for by Enbridge and was being coordinated with Enbridge. So it's not just you know, paying for training, it's not just for paying for equipment. It's specific surveillance of certain people, and that is I don't know, that's something that we weren't We did not really know the depths of that for sure, but it's pretty it's pretty messed up.

I know. We we suspected some of this coordination before, Like when we talked about police showing up to the Stop Line three camp and blocking off access to the road. This was at the same day that drilling under the river was just being finished, and we so we suspected like, yeah, there's like embridges obviously talking with police to prevent people from leaving so that they can they can finish up this specific drilling project that was that was pretty obvious

to us at the scene. Um. And now we have, you know, extra confirmation that yeah, they do like meet daily to coordinate these types of things. Um. So it's good to have that extrame confirmation of the stuff we already like suspected and stuff we already kind of like put together through experience. But now we have like you know, court documents and records showing the extent of the coordination. All right, well we'll talk about terrorism, but you know

who else is a terrorist? Oh boy? The products and services that support this podcast are all right in a good way, you know, like um, you know, like uh like uh kind of alright, well, it's it's complicated, all right, do ads just run ads stuff? Oh so if it will probably funnier if you bleep out the name of the terrorist organization. This is how we this is how

we pick up from the ad brancast you say that. So, um, Garrison, we got some some critiques that came in to the old news line, by which I mean people deemed me on redditch. Yeah. I never respond, Um, I almost never respond. It's nothing against people. I just don't like being communicated with. Um, but too many people, too many people ask me to send messages to you and like, yeah, you're not I'm not Like that's not welcome to the last three years of my life. Uh yeah, anyway, Yeah, I mean, but

that's funny, Sophie. Ah, you can say. Um, there were people who were like, hey, I don't know if you know this, but Earth First has a problematic history with like eco fascism and that sort of stuff. Just like that too. Yeah, and it's it's one of those things. They definitely are an organization that has said things in

the past that I don't agree with. There's been specific people who do organizing with them that don't have great beliefs specifically around like you know, a lot of like in the old Green movements has been you know, a lot of like transphobia, some like racism. Um. It's it's not because they're the green movements. Like all left spaces deal with versions of variety stuff, you know, not like respecting like indigenous people. Um. You know that that's been,

that's been a thing. Um. But the specific term eco fascism, I believe is incorrect um because they don't advocate for the genocide of a specific group. Um. And they don't have like far right populist policies. So like, you can have bad opinions and bad ideas and you can actually be racist without actually being fascist, especially eco fascist. UM. So I feel like people throw that word around a lot and they don't actually know what it means. Um.

But what were you specifically referring to, Robert Um. I'm trying to find the message here. But because I got a message saying that Earth First is bad because they're anti natalists, that means they're fascist, which isn't I defin't really got that, yeah, which isn't actually like, I'm just going to disagree with that actus. I don't think anti

natalism quits fascism, especially antien natalism. For like, antien natalism is basically saying, don't don't make people, maybe we should, maybe we should stop having more kids right now because you have a lot of problems to deal with, and maybe we shouldn't be having like, you know, three kids, which is not it's not a take. I'm not an

anti natalist. I don't actually disagree with that take though, but I think it's more in the line of, like, the most fundamental of all human desires for the majority of the population is to make more people, which is kind of I like anti natalism because it has that thing that's opposite to one of a lot of humans natural reaction, and like, no one's forcing anti natalists don't want to force you to be anti natalist. Bring up this as an idea, Yeah, And I think it's a

valuable idea to discuss. And I don't think it's I don't think you're I don't think you're embracing like the massacre of human beings or genesis way by saying like, I think it'd be best if we didn't make anymore. I'm not planning a arguable point. I'm not planning to have any kids because I don't see why it, especially when there's so many like children that can be adopted, and we talked about you having kids so we could experiment with making them blue. This is a separate conversation

that we're not talking about involving. We are not talking about this on the pot. We'll just include that tantalizing hint. I also just think in general, when we talk about a group that's had a long history and a specific thing they're doing in the present, Yeah, this has happened in other situation where people like, well, you know, they did this or some one of them said this. And

there's a couple of things I feel about that. For one thing, it's it's like it's entirely possible that the people doing the thing in the present day have nothing to do with the people twenty years ago. Yeah, like most of the the people out there first gathering gathering were like in their twenties and around my age, Like they weren't in the they weren't in earth first night. Like that's not like so I feel like silly about kind of making them be held accountable for something somebody else

said under a similar decades ago. And on the podcast, I talked about how like people on the Earth First earth First Gathering like talked about this stuff like that. People talked about earth First like history and how they

haven't handled some issues very well. There was a lot there was a massive effort for this gathering to like um to like uplift and make sure everyone focuses on indigenous voices, like they invited over multiple indigenous groups to give talks on green resistance and like land back like that. That was a big focus of like making sure that this actually is something that has hurt because people know, like this is, yeah, this is something important, this is

something that actually should be done. And there are I think in general, and we talk about like holding organizations and individuals accountable for their past. Um what matters is like a mix of what they did and what they're doing. So obviously, if Earth First had been saying twenty years ago, we need to wipe out all the Jews, I would be like I wouldn't care what they were saying. Now, you know, it would be like, yeah, you can't really come back from that. If you want to do a

completely different thing. It needs to be a new organization, don't. But they weren't. And I'm not saying that where I'm just making an example, but like, as a rule, I think we should embrace the fact that organizations and people can change throughout time and be better than they were in the past. Um and and learn from mistakes and flaws. And I feel pretty unwilling to condemn individuals or organizations for the mistakes of their past, although that is dependent

upon the kind of mistake and the harm that it cost. Yeah, and like and how they address it in the few churks, like a lot of these Yeah, because like it wasn't like First as an overall organization of specific people they were affiliated with, like you know specifically UM like UM. Edward Abbey has said some not great things around different different different social issues, and his books were extremely influential

on the beginning of green resistance. But that's something people talk about now, Like that's something that is like discussed and debated. UM. And he was and he was like even in the eighties and nineties, he was like kicked out of Earth First gatherings for kind of being a loser, like for for having these bad views were like, yeah, we probably shouldn't have you here anymore or leave go away, So like that was something that was even talked about back like back then as well, that is that isn't

just a modern thing. Yeah, And I think in general, number there's a couple of things. Number One, whenever we talk about like an organization in a specific context they're doing this, that doesn't mean we're embracing everything they've done. And number two, whenever we talk about the history of of of of a movement or a group, I hope nobody ever takes that as like here is the authoritative stance on the history of this thing. Like it's when we talked about the Black Panthers. There's a bunch of

stuff we left out that's very important. Um My hope with those episodes, and I hope with anything we do, is that it like inspires people to want to learn more and read more, and we're giving them a basis of understanding that they can use to expand their knowledge on an important topic. So please, we are we are.

There's like one thing, uh collectively that that Garrison and I have any kind of expertise on, and uh, outside of that, you should not take anything we say as like, here's the comprehensive history of of this, because it's I I understand one thing, and it's it's how the internet makes people shitty. Yeah, so yeah, um yeah, I mean that that was something that this whole thing was something I thought about when writing these episodes is how much

to include of this stuff? And I did not feel like it was super important to discuss this stuff because it wasn't relevant to the topic of stop lines. I think you didn't relevant to the topic of like the current ongoing green ris systems. If we want to do like a history of green activism, then yes, this is something that that would be that. And I think like at some point we probably should do absolutely about just

like Mirror and like all of that ship. But like that, there's a kind of stuff we want to talk about that we haven't yet because it's a daily show and my God, give us some fucking time. People. Speaking of Edward Abbey, you know what sells quality monkey wrenches? Okay, alright, that's fine. The maybe one of our sponsors. It's I

hope so Ace hardware. It's hardware. As hardware sponsoring us, they do sell you can get some good monkey wrenches from Ace Hardware Quality for fixing your faucet, for fixing your faucet. So go get wrench pilled and then listen to the rest of the show. Well we're back. We just had a discussion about what we're gonna talk about, and we realized that it wasn't after the ad break, So here we are. Um. In in early September, we had an episodes about both California's climate and the ongoing

recall election against Gavin Newsom. So a few days after our episodes dropped, the things like the day the day the second one dropped was was election day? Um we we we got the results in faster than what I was expecting. Um and uh Newsome did handily beat uh Larry Elder with like yeah so people people voted sixty one no and like yes, uh so he Knewsome did a decent job and pushing off Elder. Um. So this this, this whole recall processed costed California taxpayers two hundred and

seventy six million dollars. It's not like we needed the money for anything else. Garrison, Come on, yeah, so you know a few takeaways. We're going to spend it on fers literally anything else, water giving California needs water and firefighters, Garrison coming giving houses to people who need houses. I don't know. Um. Yeah, So takeaways from this The recall process still should absolutely be invented. Yeah, it shouldn't require should require more than twelve signatures at the last voter

turnout um. And the government should be requiring to get to if you're if you're gonna be elected in the government, you should be required to get a majority of votes. Um. Not not not just a plurality of a specific you know sect. So there's the whole we we we talked about the specific reasons why it was bad in those episodes. Those are still those are still like, those are still valid,

those are still relevant because there's still the same issues. Yeah, And none of the fact that this turned out well had anything to do with the Democratic Party who very nearly bungled it. And it and it doesn't it doesn't really impact. It doesn't impact, you know, the California's climate issues so much. And like just because new Sims in

office doesn't mean they're going to get much better. You know, there's still things that he needs to be pushed on to to you know, make the climate a little bit more habitable. In the meantime, it it means that we will continue stumbling towards a cliff rather than speak so generally what voting for Democrats means. Yeah, I will say, it's interesting to me that it doesn't seem like you can get the vote was rigged thing to work unless the election is like kind of this is the next

thing I was going to talk about. Um. Yeah, because because like in the week before the election, the Fox News Republican Party and Larry Elder and even Trump, we're really starting to ramp up this idea that if Elder loses, that means the election was rigged. Uh. This was like they were really pushing this hard and you know, spreading it, like they were giving links to a website like before he lost, even be like if you know, when I lose,

use this website. It was like, Okay, that's that's weird. Um. But on the night of the election, Elder seems to kind of claim climb down from the inflammatory like rhetoric around the election. In his concession speech, he told supporters, let's be gracious and defeat um. So he once the actual results were in, he really climbed that down, so we can read into that. The other thing I want us to read into here is that could this could this rhetoric around if we lose that means it was rigged.

Could that disenfranchise Republican voters from even showing up if they believe that all elections will be stolen from them, well that being that they'll be less Republican turn out if there's just if they think that it doesn't matter. So that's the other side of things, Like I'm not sure if if if the other side effects that this

that this rhetoric could have. Yeah, there's an interesting So during during the last election like national election cycle, there is a bunch of me to use people who weren't voting in Florida, And I thought it was really interesting because there were there were several people they talked to who were like, yeah, I don't vote because last time I voted was two thousand and they stole the election, which was literally which which yeah, and and you know

I'd say that, yeah, like I think it is slightly different when like two thousands actually like like literally but there was there was the bricks like there there there Roger Stone, Yeah, Roger Stone led a riot to stop like the votes from being counted, like whatever, weird Bush. I think people people got like like a bunch of people with like vaguely black names got like their names

struck off the like the voting roles. Like there was a lot of yeah, but yeah, And I don't I don't know if it'll if it if the effect can work that strongly when it's like completely bullshit, which was I think it's yeah, interesting, I don't know. It's it's hard to say because it's it's it's unclear whether the voter turnout on the because like you know, there were times where they were pulling like fifty fifty between between

between Newsom and Elder, and it's unclear. I think jen definitely the big advertising push that corporate donors gave to Newsom in the month before the election did help get Democratic voter turnout, you know, like people voting for new getting people scared about govern that not was not ineffective, that that very much works. That did increase turn out there, But I don't know because like with the whole election being stolen rhetoric that could both increase Republican voter turnout.

And there's also the side effect now where maybe it could decrease it because they're just disenfranchised about this concept. But this is kind of just speculation at this point. I don't have actual data backing up this claim right now. This is just something that I thought about while running this right up, I'm like, huh, I wonder if this could be a contributing factor in the future. People really I feel like they're always gonna lose. Maybe they just

not not even are going to bother um. But it's hard to say. It's like, you know, the main reason why Elder lost wasn't due to newsome strength. That was because Elder is like, it's completely like he It was like because the most qualified Yeah, well like widely unqualified and like one of the more extreme candidates like running.

And yes he did get a lot of support among Republicans, but among moderates and people you know, left of center in terms of like an American spectrum, Uh, they're like, yeah, no, this is going to be a disaster if if he gets elected. And that's the main reason why he didn't. Um, it's not due to Newsom being great, But I mean, Sophie did mention a few things that Newsom has done

since then, Um so we do do do? Do you want to say the specific details just so I don't have to look famously a big Newsome fans So yeah, not come on, uh so not to give news some credit because this is like an obvious right thing to do situation. But um at the beginning of October, the Senate Bill seven was signed into law. It was an unanimous vote and Newsom signed off on it to give back Bruce's Speach, which was owned by a black family, Willa and Charles Bruce, back in their land was illegally

taken away from them. It's a beach front plot in Manhattan Beach. And I signed into a lot of give it back. That is good, I mean yeah, yeah, more of that should be done. I mean that is kind of the basis of like, you know, that is one side of land back, is just giving land back to people who used to have it. Yeah, of course this is this isn't tied to like indigenous stuff, but you know, I've seen people make that same comparison for like, yeah, we should just be doing this more in general to

a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah, that's a I'm glad that that was done. It's also now illegal to remove a condom without consett in California, which is wait, what, You're going to have to change a lot of things about how you have sex with Californians. Yeah, during intercourse, that's the it's the first state to do that, first of all. Huh, Yeah, it's wild because under any reasonable definition, that rape. Yeah, yeah, it's just rap. Yeah, it's absolutely rape.

California also now requires menstrual products in public schools, so that's a bare minimum. And that I didn't realize that it happened yea. And I want to be clear here, I'm not giving you some credit for this, but if he had lost the recall ellection, none of this would be happening. No, it's nice that he I'm sure some of this was him kind of providing a sop to the people who lined up to stop the recall. And

those are good things that were done. Yeah, And I think I think that's sort of an important thing to understand about when politicians occasionally do good things. It's like they don't do good things because they want to do them. They they do things that benefit from you because they're either in some way scared of you, or it's because they need to buy they buy you off, and and that that is you know, that is that is a

legitimate way that good things happen. I've got a couple other Uh, there's been a lot signed in recently, So I got a couple of other ones that I that I think are relevant to our show. California will not streamline extend assisted death law. So that's that's good. That reduces the time until terminal patients can choose to be

given fatal drugs. So starting January one, the waiting period required time a patient makes separate oral request for medication would dropped to forty down from the current minimum fifteen days. That is that is good, pretty rad Yeah, I mean there's just there's there's a I mean, we'll see if it's it's hard, a lot, there's a lot it's it's hard, it's hard to be like worse than Larry Elder. Yeah, that's my that this one definitely would not get through

for California. California Acts a lot of strip badges from bad officers, like very vaguely written, is very vague. But yeah, well we'll see what happens to Like, No, none of that stuff would have happened under a thing I am so prized at, like some of those things actually got through because I'm I'm surprised that democratic politicians would actually

vote for those things we put office. That's why I was like, basically like the condom thing, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I was not expecting that to go through some science legislation to extend to go cocktails. Wait, all right, that's sure, Okay, more where am I to cocktail heads? Sorry? Alright, So at least Larry Al there's not in office. There's still a lot of climate issues and maybe this rhetoric around stealing the elections not gonna work every single time

they do it. Um, that's kind of the main that's the main things that I was going to talk about, and it is it is. I mean, one of the things that people are talking about in a lot of the spaces I generally agree with is like the foolishness of voting is harm reduction. And there's been a lot of if you want to believe that it isn't, there's been a lot of information coming up from the Biden

administration that will support that belief. Um, But what we're saying right now in California's group that can be like the these are not none of this is going to fundamentally change the major problems that are confronting us. But but a bunch of those things are going to Like life's going to be easier for some little girls whose families don't have much money. You know, life got easier

for that one family who got their land back. Um. You know, potentially it's going to be easier to get bad police officer or to get particularly bad police officers off the street. And that's not that's not nothing. Like when we say voting can be and I'm not saying that it usually is, but when we it can reduce harm, that's what it means. It means that, like, oh, some bad things that that would be worse are not as

bad because of this. Not that everything is better. A lot of stuff will be the same and is the same in California, Like ecologically, nothing fundically fundamentally changed, but some ships a little easier for certain groups of people as a result of some stuff and specific happen. Specificly, I think the getting getting more like contraceptive products and menstrual products inside public schools is one of the literally the best things we can do, like like for the

whole country. It is like something that if that was required in every public school, that would make so many people's lives better. That ridiculous degree significantly reduces harm in a specific way. And I think that just because like, yeah, I mean it's not going to stop us all from burning up, um, but that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile. So those those are the three stories that I wanted

to give some updates for. UM, so I know, you know, there were changes happened, you know, very soon after posting those episodes. UM. I still think the California ones are worth listening to because they do lay out a lot of stuff around around California's climate, um and the specific weird stuff that it has with its specific weird things that has with its election process. UM. I think the line three episodes are going to be pretty good to

go back to as well. UM. And then uh, I at the specific cop City thing in Atlanta, that is the stuff that I am It's gonna be the most like ongoing thing stills because that's going to be an ongoing project. So I'm sure we'll come back to the Cops City at different points throughout the next few months. So that that that that that's the updates. UM, any any any closing notes from either Christopher, Robert or Sophie. Yeah, just just I do well excuse me, okay, Sorrightfie, Sorry,

just I just just remind him. We've said this earlier in the episode, that like, we're just giving you brief, brief sniff. It's about this stuff. There's a lot there's a lot of really good articles online that go go deep into these things. And we'll post our sources on the website. Yep, yeah, yeah, we we we do. We do a good job, I think most of the time. Yes, yes, but we're great. Yeah, we're we're the only heroes like that. That's fair to say. Absolutely, But do you do not

have a podcast be the only source of information? Absolutely? Do not. Don't listen to just begging you listen to if you think more of a of a left perspective that is that that goes in some directions. We don't. It's going down. Is a lovely place to check out Margaret Killjoy's um uh live like the World is Dying. St Andrew's YouTube channel. UM he does some some really

incredible stuff. Um. You know, there's all sorts of good people out there and then also like history books more than anything, like history books, history books for the thing that radicalized me. Yeah, if you want to read more about the new sub notable laws signed recently, the k c r A and Sacramento did A did a really good breakdown article. Oh sorry, so it's okay. And and as a note, we will be doing more episodes like this over time, as like stories that we cover have

additional things happen to them. This is like we don't want to just be like dropping a story and then ignoring whatever happens next. Um. Sometimes that will following up with people that we're talking to him on the ground. But you know, we are trying to like keep you updated on the things that we think are important, you know, even when they end uh in a in a broadly positive sense or whatever. And lastly, what was the name of that brisket place in Atlantic, because I'm sure people

are gonna ask about it. Oh, I don't remember. It was some shitty little place in the middle of South Atlanta. Um and like a fucking strip mall that was really helpful. I don't remember. So if it was like eleven years ago, what do you I don't remember. The best brisket you've ever had, and it was but the best. Like if you know anything about good barbecue, the best barbecue you ever have is either cooked by like your uncle or is cooked in some shitty little place with a dis

turn that wouldn't pass a code inspection. That is true that the more the more codes it violates, the better than bisket. Um Anyway, If you see the chef actively ship on the grill, that means just going to be incredible. Jesus Christ anyway, Twitter and Instagram, what happened here Paul, Cool Zone Media. Subscribe to the feed and leave a five star review. That's it. Don't don't don't shoot on

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