Q&A Part 1

speakable hour in the morning. I hate this the time you part the time for for For one of our first episodes of the New Year, we have decided to subject ourselves to your para social whims um and we are going to be doing maybe one, maybe two Q and A episodes. Um uh giving AI's to your cues. And I've been in the cue. It's okay. I've been told that our producer Sophie has a list of questions already prepared so that I can stop talking and she can.

Now you've been told you're the one who posted the thread. Sophie said that she would read them. I did volunteers tribute, but I might, I might. I might take that back. It's you how much at some point. Yeah. Uh, let's let's let's start with let's start with a simply a good one. Uh. What has been your favorite episode slash topic to research in this past season? So since we started season two? Oh god, Um, I enjoyed the metaverse Facebook episodes because there's a part of me that really

likes shitting on bad tech industry stuff. Um. It fills a deep part of me just just really comprehensively thinking about how how terrible the vision of the future these people have it. So that was probably my favorite. I liked the Climate Leviathan stuff. Um, the Climate Leviathan, climate Behemoth, climate mal climate X, kind of four quadrants. I I liked learning about that, like, jeez, almost a year ago

actually by the time I started researching for the show. Um, and I'm decently happy with the way that those topics were presented and how they keep popping back every once

in a while. I think in terms of just the favorite episode I recorded, it was probably the interview with the Common Humanity Collective people, just because like listening to a bunch of people who have very sophisticated and well developed mutual aid project and then listening to you know that them talking about their political development and how they've been sort of solving their problems was really reassuring and

cheerful in a lot of ways. And then research wise, was definitely the Spooky Area fifty one episode where I was like, oh, I'm gonna do a fun episode about uh, the government and aliens and it was like, oh no, here's every war crime ever and like sixteen people almost killing everyone on earth. This is This is Probably probably the most fun I had was with the Chaos, Magic and Esotericism episode just how silly it is? Um? Yeah, that one. That one also was just just a pleasure

to record. I also loved having Corey doctor rowan um because that was cool. That was cool. That was that was very cool, how cool of us. I've enjoyed our our fiction episodes with Margaret and with Rebecca those those have been great. And I've loved having st Andrew. Yeah, that has been also very cool, fantastic. What were gonna say, Robert nothing, Oh great, this person says. I think I've got my head wrapped around mutual aid, community resilience and

all the stuff you talk about. Any tips on how to effectively communicate it to people who might not be at least initially open to it. H Um. I mean it kind of depends on why they're not open to it, right.

So it's it's a matter of are they just somebody who has a lot of faith in in systems as they exist, or they someone who's kind of coming at it from more of a traditional like liberal, um status perspective where they think the option is to get in line with you know, the Democratic Party and support that

and that will make things better. Um. Like basically, are they a top down er um, or there's somebody who rejects it because it's like communism um, and they don't they don't think that people have any kind of fundamental responsibility to themselves. Um. Because you are going to have kind of a different approach to trying to each either of those people. Um if they're coming at it from kind of more of a right wing standpoint, but they're not,

you know, uh talking about shooting vaccine doctors. Um, they're just kind of conservative. I think the way to do it is to sort of hearken back to some of these very traditional ideas of like, um, American homesteaders and and independent you know, communities on the frontier and self reliance and how mutual aid is people taking responsibility UM for their communities rather than you know, this idea I think a lot of conservatives have of like people UM

just kind of lazily taking charity. How it's it's different from charity, and that it's a community UM seeing its own needs and becoming independent as much as as possible on the state from the state UM by trying to meet its own needs. And how that UM is better for people than just sort of UM like being dependent

upon government programs. I think that's kind of the way in which to reach out to those people with that idea if they're coming at it from more of a liberal, top down approach, UM, I think you can get more into the weeds and may argue about kind of inefficiencies

within the system, problems within the system. I think one thing to really point out that will probably still be fresh to a lot of people of that persuasion is how frightening the first couple of weeks of quarantine were and all of the supply line issues and kind of the early breakdown, and be like, look, um, that didn't go away, like right, you can see that that we're still dealing with a lot of this and we're still having supply line disruptions and the state really has not

kind of even under Biden sailed and to clear the gap. And so we need these community resiliency programs, UM. And you can you know, depending on the kind of person there, you can also sort of point out, um, the degree to which there is our attempts at kind of avatage of any sort of of of of top down government programs by the right, and how UM that's part of why you need community resiliency programs because you can't guarantee who's going to be in the White House, you can't

guarantee what's going to continue to get funded. Um. And outside of kind of any of the the structural issues um that make that stuff difficult. So I think, UM, that's kind of broadly speaking, the two different ways you you can broach those conversations with people, depending on the tendencies they're they're looking at it from. Uh, let's let's

let's get into an unpleasant one. What's the gang's outlook on this year's election and how do you think it might position us for Do we see more violence sitting up to the next presidential election? Well, I know we'll be doing a prediction z is episode later. Um. But as for this election, I have I've not looked at anything about it. I think the Steelers are going to take it all? What what? Well? What's border are the Steelers? Um?

One of them? That's great? Uh? I mean yeah, I mean I feel like if Democrats want to keep the power that they currently have, they will probably need to do some type of symbolic action that makes people think they actually do things. I mean, they've managed to have control of every and done absolutely nothing that they so I'm guessing if they want to keep that, they should probably do something really soon, um or else I don't see people being super eager to vote in two for

the Democrats. Yeah. Yeah, I mean one of the issues they've got is this this thing that you know, kind of the technocrats always have where you know, as we as Corey pointed out when we had them on, there have been some really positive moves by the Biden administration in terms of like appointments and how different kind of agencies are being handled. Um. But when it to the things that he actually campaigned on, like, it just hasn't

it hasn't happened, should it? It ain't been done? Um, like the closest we've gotten recently is yet another kick the can down the street a little bit for student loan repayments, And I agree, I think they need to do. There's like two big things they could do that might have a significant shifting effect. One of them would be student debt forgiveness, and one of them would be fucking

de schedule marijuana. Even without Congress, Biden could could not actively make marijuana not and like that would be number one politically, the easiest fucking win in the world because the vast majority of Republicans don't give a shit about that anymore. Um, it will piss off cops, which is probably why you won't do it. But like, those two things could have an impact on mid terms. That's certainly a thing that would like you can campaign on more. But I don't. I don't know that I think he'll

do that. And of obviously I guess another big old payment to stay home, But I think that shipped un sailed, Like honestly, like, I don't think they want to win, so they can sit there and then and go, oh, yeah, we can't do anything because Republicans control the House, and you guys need to like you guys need to like save us in this is the most important election of

our lifetime. It's like, and they will keep doing this over and over and over again until literally the seize boil and everyone, you know, everyone is being heard into

concentration camps. Like they will just keep doing this and and like I think that's that's the thing that's actually important about the two cycle is that like the Democrats have you know what, you know what the rejection of Brinie Sanders sort of is is the Democrats essentially going, we are not a popular party, right, like we we are not a party that is going to like like we will not even give the pretense of like having a base that we represent and we do things for

like we're just we're just in it for ourselves. We're in it's just like, you know, give all of our weird like black Rock friends positions in the government, and we don't you know, and it's you know, it's it's we we don't have a policy agenda, and we don't care if we lose because if we lose, all you people just have to go put us back into office

because the alternative is just more death camps. Yeah, I mean I think there's a broad belief like within kind of the Democratic Party that things are still business as usual and that the Republican Party is still a political party, and so kind of the handing off and switching of power is fine. That's seen as business as usual, rather than the Democrats are the Republicans are continually ratcheting away from there being any chance of a switch of power,

um at least through legal means. Like that's the whole thing they're doing. And the failures to pass any kind of voting rights and the failures to see like a voting right reform as an existential issue for not just the party, but like the concept of uh democracy in this country is is I think evidence that. However, you kind of try to rationalize in your head why it's happening. There's a real disconnect between the party leadership and understandings

of the new nature of reality. Yeah, well that the other thing. I mean, they'll be fine, right, like outside of like another January six killing them all, Like, they'll be fine. It doesn't like for them, it basically doesn't matter if Republicans take power. Maybe maybe some of them

will get impeached. They'll be like a show trial for like two people or something, but like they're gonna be fine, and you know, that's that's the thing that motivates all of their thinking, is that they can they can survive another public administration. Like we're you know, we're dying under

both of them. And you know, like, I mean, this is this is partially you know, if you want to talk about sort of the COVID response for a second, in the relation that has to the election, it's like, yeah, the Democrats are just like completely given up even the pretense of doing literally anything about COVID literally because literally anything, yeah, go out and die, like so we can talk about that.

That's a separate Yeah, yeah, that's a separate issue, I think, just in terms of like how how to interpret what they're doing with COVID and the degree to which I think they even have a chance of uh whatever. Um. But yeah, it's like they don't care if we live die, like we care if we live or die, and we're gonna have to do stuff on our own outside of this because they're just gonna kill us. All. Yeah. I mean I think that it's hard for me to tell

where the elections are going to go precisely. Uh Biden's polling certainly isn't great. It's also not like wildly out of step with how where presidents often are kind of at this point UM in in their cycle. So and also it's pretty normal for the party that just won the presidential election to lose at the midterms. That's more

normal than not UM, I think. So, I think the big questions are number one, like the degree to which it's a wide sweep, which is going to depend on the actual impact a lot of these UM efforts to kind of restrict voting and jerrymander, Like what the actual on the ground impact is UM, and the degree to which we've seen an actual shift, because one of the things that the polls don't often tell us is like, yeah,

Democrats are not popular. Most people seem to be aware that a lot of promises have gone unfulfilled, But it doesn't also mean that they like the Republicans UM, who as the party of Trump, are still kind of widely disliked by people. So it's kind of unclear to me what precisely is going to go down, by which I mean whether or not it's going to be a pretty normal midterm, whether the Republicans pick up some seats or

like a nightmare blowout. Um And I do think that has a lot to do with whether or not Biden and like does a couple of the things that a president can do unilaterally that would be really easy for

other people to campaign on. Um. Like he they have to, like if they actually do want to win, they have to they have to make a couple of big hail mary's they have to do again, Biden has to do a couple of the big things that a president can do and then say, Okay, see I did a thing, put more Democrats in, and we can do this other big thing that a president can't do on his own or something like that. Like I just don't see, um. I mean, you know, anything could happen. Still, it's fucking January.

I think there's a positive if you want to be in terms of things that are making me kind of optimistic, um and and in terms of things that are better about when the Democrats are in powder and then the Republicans, you can bully the Biden administration to taking broadly positive action, which is what happened with student loan repayments, right. That's why that did get kicked down. The can a couple

of kick down the road a couple of months. Um. And so I do think there's potential in um harassing the Biden administration to taking actions that can make Democrats more popular. Um. That would not be the reason to do it. The reason to do it is so that people don't starve trying to pay back student loans. Um. But it does point to, I think in an avenue of hope. UM, if we're trying not to be complete doomers in January of two. Yeah, and speaking of avenues

of hope, it's time for an adverb. Ah. The only thing that gives me hope is the products and services that support this podcast are the heck we are we are I've i've I have a question. I would like us to talk about uma new year book list. Oh yeah, that's so simple. So what's what's some I think we could answer this like? And then they also someone else followed up with saying, recommend some books that maybe not just left this theory of climate change, also some like

fiction stuff as well. And I'm just gonna say the books that I'm reading or is on my reading list, not I'm not gonna recommend books I've already read. I'm just gonna say the ones I'm currently reading. UM. I'm

still making it through hyper objects for an upcoming episode. UM. I picked up a really a book I wanted to get for a long time called Islands of Abandonment, which is about um people, Well, no, it's it's it's about places that have kind of been forgotten and regrown or taken to have been kind of reclaimed by the area that they were, that they were built on. And then I also have a random few books on alchemy that I'm going through as well. That's most of my books. Horrible.

UM I read. The last book I finished in was in the Garden of Beasts, which is by what is his name? I think it's Eric larson Um. He's a guy who's written He wrote like Devil in the White City and a couple of other books that people have probably read Eric larson Um, And it's about the first US ambassador to Nazi Germany or what becomes Nazi Journey.

He gets sent there right before, like like months before Hitler takes power, and the book largely traces he and his family's journey in Nazi Germany from like kind of didn't really care about German politics and were often broadly sympathetic towards the Nazis. They melt met like his daughter kind of is very much like on board with the Nazi revolution for like the first half year that she's there. She's also like simultaneously dating the head of the Gestapo

and the Soviet um like assistant ambassador, which is fascinating. Like, it's a very interesting book, um, And the story like the journey this kind of family goes on realizing like what the Nazis are in the perspective of that. It's it's very well written. Um, it's very detailed. I really

enjoyed it. The thing that I liked the most was the detail it goes into about the kind of the fates of because it's it's a more you know, obviously as much of a nerd on the history of fascism as I am, I've read a lot about the Night of Long Knives. This did the best job of kind of going into detail about the kind of dudes who the dudes who were purged in the Night of Long Knives. So these guys who were Nazis in that they wore swastikas and they were part of the party and whatnot.

But also weren't Nazis enough to not get purged And in a lot of cases were like starting to fall out of love with the party when the Night of Long Knives had And so it's these it's really interesting, UM and I recommend it to people. And the last book I started in the first book I finished in two was called Ministry of the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson, who is UM an interesting science fiction author, in part

because Ministry of the Future is about climate change. UM. It is a a science fiction look at about like a thousand different potential solutions to climate change. And Kim Stanley Robinson is actually like an expert UM. He works for the Sierra Center. I think it's called UM. He's won a bunch of awards for his work on like trying to like posit different solutions to climate change. He's he he understand he's not like coming at this from the perspective of an even even a well researched author.

He's he's writing from the perspective of someone who is an actual scientific expert in what happens and how the different solutions might work. And the thing that's really interesting about Ministry of the Future is it's this fascinating melange

of UM. Like a number of the character the Ministry of the Future is this kind of hypothetical new U N agency that's put in place after a horrible wet bulb um heat event kills twenty million people in India UM, and they're they're kind of trying to push for very

technocratic solutions to climate change. So, like one of the big things the book focuses on a lot is this idea of a climate coin, which is a kind of UM international backed by banks, cryptocurrency that that pays as a kind of long term bond for sequestering carbon, so that like countries like Saudi Arabia that have huge oil reserves actually make more money by using to pump out oil and thus get paid in these coins. So it's

really technocratic solutions like that. And then also terrorist groups that may be funded by this U N agency building fleets of drones to murder people on commercial air flights UM in mass in order to cripple the entire air travel industry and stop carbon emission and carrying out mass assassinations on like CEOs of of oil companies living in

their private islands. So it's this really interesting mix of like kind of liberal politicians and like bankers like working out these very wonky solutions to things, and like terrorists who have lost people in climate emergencies mass murdering um billionaires, uh and and so it's it's a very it's the whitest possible ranging look at kind of different solutions to climate change and how they might work. And it's a

very optimistic book. UM. And there's there's elements of it that I kind of the optimism I kind of disagree with. I think oddly enough Kim doesn't give enough weight to the day dangers of authoritarian populism and and the threat I think they present to any of these kind of

potential solutions. But it's still a very well thought out look at climate change and I think really worth reading UM if you want something that will both bring up different because he also goes into a lot of like very scientific solutions, like pumping up water from underneath glaciers in order to stop glaciers from sliding, and like slow the rate of melt and all these these other kind of like very much like technical here's a thing that we can do that will reduce the effect of this

specific Um kind of climate change. It's really a very good book. Um and it's apparently was Barack Obama's favorite book of the year, which, considering the degree in which it talks about murdering politicians and business leaders, is interesting to me. I think he was maybe more paying attention to the carbon coins stuff than the shooting oil industry executives in their face while they're sleeping. Well, he was

also a fan of parasite, so walty. He may just have been told this is a book you should say you like, but it is. It is a very good book. It is really worth reading. Um and it's it's it is a work of science fiction. But honestly it's like it's also it's well again, Kim really understands his stuff from a technical level, so I think it's pretty unimpeachable from that point of view. There are some kind of

sociological areas where I don't think the book. I think there's some ship missing, particularly as regards the problems authoritarianism is going to cause in reaching for these solutions. But I think it's still really really valuable. And Chris, we're going to hear your responses, but first capitalism here you are reading read few things, um, and reading more Chwang, which is a theoretical journal about China that writes a

lot of very very good stuff. They have probably the best account I've ever seen of just what was going on during the socialist period and then also the sort of transition to capitalism. That's those are those are those are issues one and two, and they just published an issue about it, basically, how the pandemic response happens in China.

It's it's absolutely fascinating. Um. It's also about sort of is this something that Yeah, I've talked about a lot of their stuff on the show, sort of obliquely or directly, but like, you know, one of one of the big things is about how, in a lot of ways, the pandemic reveals the sort of weakness of the Chinese state and in a way that you know it is you don't see really because both both you know, both the Chinese state and this sort of like American media have

this vested interest in showing like China's is sort of like all powerful authoritarian police state or whatever, like the miliar image of it is like this isn't but you know what what you really see is that like this this state has a very strong ability to intervene in like one province at a time, and they can you know when when when they focus, when they focus all the sort of administrative power on like one area, right, they're extremely effective. They can't really do it in you know,

multiplayers at the same time. And this means that you're dealing with all the sort of regional government stuff and it's it's very interesting. The the other thing that I have, well, okay, so do do we want to talk like a little bit about the dawn of everything or do you want to save that for just like yeah, I I'm down to talk about that at any point. Yeah, ok, yeah,

that's definitely on my list. That is a long one that's less of a read I think where most people are going to be less of a read in one sweep than like maybe for over the course of the year, like gradually. Yeah. Yeah, it's very very dense and very long, but very readable. Like not to say that it's like dense in the I gotta like slog through this textbook. It's extremely readable. It's just like there's a lot in there and you're gonna want to pause and think about ship. Yeah.

So so not everything is this is the last book David Graeber ever wrote, and it's David Wenn Grow also. They wrote it together, and it's it's this basically an

attempt to reassemble I guess, early human history. And but the thing that they're doing that that's that's really unique is that so they they're David wen Grows as archaeologist, David Graeber's an apologists, and they're they're going, you know, so they spent a whole bunch of time going through the sort of early archaeological records, and what they find, basically is that none of the things that you see make any sense at all unless you're willing to unless

you're willing to accept that people you know, years ago, and then even you know, people like four hive thousand years ago, we're as smart as we are and have the have the capacity to recreate and redesign their own political arrangements selfconsciously, which is something that doesn't sound that weird, except everyone assumes that they can't, and that you know,

everyone that's you know. One of the other things that they're they're really sort of heavily doing here is trying to break this idea that you know, human society sort of evolves in these this linear progression. You know, you start out with like these small hunter gatherer bands and they get more complex quote unquote, eventually they developed farming, and farming developed the state. And the answer is just you know, when you look through the actual archaeological record,

none of this is true. You have, you know, they have a lot of very interesting sort of historical examples of this, looking at like what looked like incredibly democratic and egalitarian cities, and then you know, on the outskirts of those cities you have the emergence of the states

among things that look like states, among barbarian groups. And they have and what I think is maybe the most interesting part of it is that they're they're very concerned with the question of human freedom, but freedom in a way that like we don't but freedom on a level

fundamental enough that like we can barely imagine it. So they have these things called the Three freedoms, which is one of them is so that the first one is the freedom just move to leave and to it's it's a freedom to to you know, be in a place and then leave and know that you will be cared for when you get to wherever you're going, Yeah, these kind of networks that were set up so that people could travel that have like the descendant of those ideas is sort of the way if you ever if you've

ever spent time in the Middle East, not in like hotels and ship like it's that same idea that kind of deeper than religious belief about the importance of that has gotten added to like Islam and into a number

of other faiths in the area. Like, but this idea that like there's nothing more sacred than taking care of a of a guest um like and and how that that that existed to enable kind of a sort of cross cultural contract and contact and like recreational trap in a way that I think it would be deeply surprising to people who just sort of assumed everyone before a certain age died within five miles of their house or was you know, yeah, part of a band of wandering hunters. Yeah.

And it's it's interesting in that like, like like we we in a lot of ways travel less than early people did, because you know that people would just leave and people, you know, people just didn't like their families, and so they'd walk like five miles and they they'd come to a place and they'd be accepted. And yeah, and you know, and like the second one, I think the one that I is the the one we have the least capacity I think to understand, which is just

the ability to disobey orders. Just like anyone tells you do something, you could just tell them know at any time. And it's not only can you just tell them no, Like the social expectation is that you is that you don't act, is that it's it's it's it's not just that you have the ability to do it, it's that someone giving you an order is treated as weird. And this is a thing that you know, like this, this is the thing. This is a freedom that used to

exist and no longer does. It was sort of destroying various ways, along with sort of the third free to talk about, which is about how people have the right to sort of just shift and recreate their their social

political arrangements. And yeah, and people used to do this sort of I mean people, you know, a lot of the what their early part of the book is about is about how societies you there there's a lot of societies that would you know, flip seasonally, right, so what like one half of the year you have this just like absolutelycatorship the either half of the year. It's like, well,

it looks like a hippie commune. And you know the fact that we do not like the fact that like we we we just don't like it, cannot conceive of completely shifting our political arrangements like that is It's also there's this fascinating discussion of like the fact that and this is kind of counter to what I had always kind of thought that like once as a group groups of people when they when they made the decision to like move to agriculture um and like set founded cities,

that it was kind of a one way street. You know, you you you just keep going along that road. And there's actually multiple examples of people's like this, what what happened to the British Isles, or at least in what is currently Great Britain. People's like developing agriculture, settling down and then being like oh, you know what, fuck this and like going back like that that should should happen

all the time. And and one of the things that's really kind of optimistic about the vision of of the sweep of human history in the dawn of everything is the idea that like, no, we don't have to keep like, it's not inevitable that we just keep doing more of what we're doing now. All throughout history, large groups of people have been like, it's time to let's do something else, let's make a radical change, like it happens, um, And it's probably more normal to do that than it is

to do what we've been doing. And when you I think one of the things that kind of one of the things that leads to the sense of inevitability of development along the lines that we have is is the fact that we only really have about ten thousand years of even vaguely reliable like data or vaguely comprehensive data on human history. But people have been around for tens of thousands of years longer than that, and for most of it we've been a lot more experimental than we

are now. And it's it's always possible for people to try different things in a way that um, maybe seems impossible to us now but but necessarily won't for our kids. Oh yeah. The last thing I would tell people to listen to if they're looking for a fictional optimistic thing is Corey Doctors walk Away. UM, give it a read. And if you're and if you're looking for like a a like a beautiful like not to get your head out of the One of the things I'm really passionate

about is plants. And I have this beautiful book called The Planet Media and it's really helpful for caring for your house plants. And it's just like aesthetically just so. The photographs are beautiful and it's one of my favorite things to give friends and family. To check that one out as well. Another another plant book that I just got for somebody that I really like. I think it's

called Wicked Plants. It's about all the poisons plants that you can get, um and the ones all the like the poison plants you can cultivate in your own garden. And that's been a lovely read. Um, and I do hope to set up a decent poisoned garden here in the spring. So very excited. Yeah, me too, It's going to be great. Well, let's get to another question. Um, do you guys want like a fluff question or like a real question? Uh, let's do a fluff one and we can start the next episode with a real, real

juicy fluff daddy. All right, Okay, that's a little gift to all of you at home. On the topic of hobbies, so so I just Garrison likes poisonous plants. I like non poisonous plants. Uh, what hobbies are you into that we may not know about? Um? I guess I can only say one thing here. Really, Well, I don't know. Yeah, you should be really careful about how you answer this one. I know what your hobbies are. Let's have everyone else go first. UM. I just got into three D printing.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to get a BS to act adhere properly. Yeah, that was the problem I had with my printer is that it would I would get like a decent way through the first part of the print, and then part of it would come curl off, so then it wouldn't print them next layer on correctly. Then it messed up the print. And yeah, I was between mental health stuff and that at the time. I was stday on my printer. This is when I just gave up because it was too much. So I'll

be excited to see how you get past this turtle. Well, I've I've got a glass bed coming in, so I'm gonna yeah, and I've I've got the enclosure. One of the issues I'm having is just that I'm having a heating issue with the bed. It won't heat up. It stops before it gets to one tin, which is what it should be able to go up that high. But it's just, yeah, can you manually heat it up? Hotter? Um, it doesn't seem to matter. It doesn't seem to matter if I if I said it, like I can't obviously,

like you can. You can set it up to heat, but it just keeps I keep getting that like loud error beep. So there's like there's this is going to be it's going to be a process of jiggering to to to figure it out. Um, but you can come out. Yeah I have, I have. I've I have a similar problem with my setup right now that I've been trying to troubleshoot for like half a year. Um, I can manually control the heat bed and it does get that hot. But still I think it may just be a leveling issue.

I may need to like clean the bed. I also should just talk to someone who has done more three D printing than me. Um. But yeah, yeah, but it's it's it's fun. I I enjoy it. It's very it's radically different from the stuff that I like do for a living um, which is always my favorite thing for like a a task to engage in in order to be relaxing, because it's it's not all like reading and writing. It's very different. It's very different. So so far, I'm

enjoying it. And I already I printed the thing I need to do to make the the bio um, the biolab for like the four Thieves stuff. If you want to check out our episode with Michael from the four Thieves Vinegar Collective. I've three D printed that part, so I'm ready to get the other parts and put that thing together. Um, I'm just trying to figure out how to print other stuff with better plastics and whatnot. But yeah, it's it's fun. So far. I'm I'm enjoying it a lot.

Um Maybe I'll get bored, Maybe I'll wind up spending way too much money on different three D printers, like the ones that lift the goo out of the res printers are there there's so they're much like this is what this is what Corey Doctor was talking about, Like like they are much better at the filament printers in a lot of ways, but a lot of like a lot of the stuff. A lot of the really useful machines that you can make with three D prints require you to use filament right now, um, but the resin

ones are like so much more elegant. They're beautiful. Um. I also am really interested in the idea of printing wood, which I did not realize until recently you could do. But it's absolutely possible with certain kinds of printers. Um, And that seems pretty dope. So I don't know, we'll see how. Maybe I'll be tired of it in a month because my mental health will take a dive, But

so far I'm pretty excited. Cool Chris, what do I do? Uh? Well, Okay, So before the pandemic, I was getting into rock climbing, but unfortunately, like like I like rock climbing, I'm not like, oh, it's like the best thing you can do for you. It's a lot of fun. But unfortunately, I mean, it's not like the worst pandemic thing you could possibly do, but like it's no, Yeah, if you get up high enough on the rocks, COVID can't get up there. It's

like the opposite of a bear. It's really bad. At climbing. Yes, so I guess the other what do I even do? Is? Okay? So my other thing okay, so so deep like deep Twitter lure. People probably know this about me, but I am I have been for a very very long time, like an inveterate fan of competitive StarCraft two. Okay, I am awful at it, Like I am terrible at that game.

But I have watched so much StarCraft two, like I I StarCraft two has become enough of my life that like, like the game was part of my radicalization process, Like yeah, I wake up extremely early or stay up extremely late and watch Korean StarCraft two and non Korean StarCraft two

and yeah, it's it's a good time. It's I My favorite thing about StarCraft in general is thinking about the fact that Blizzard was initially trying to make a Warhammer forty video game, and Games Workshop was as always to parent it off their I p to let it happen,

and thus lost how many god knows how many. They would be worth more money than most countries like that been printing an impossible amount of money, like Indy Chambers would have been able to buy a mountain of cocaine to live inside, but but no, instead we got all of the infrastructure of modern esports m hm, which it seems fine, like it's whatever. I don't care, but it is very funny to me that they were like, nah, this doesn't seem like a good financial decision for games

Workshop the StarCraft thing, Like I wonder like that. That's the kind of thing where it's like, if they made that much money, would they all just retire? Like well, I mean it's a publicly traded company, like the stock the shareholders would have made a fortune and the but yeah, I I don't know. It's very it's very funny that they didn't think that was going to be worth it. Let's see in terms of how these people may not know. I do really like cooking. I talked cooking classes for

a long time. Um. That's been the main cook in my family since I was a very little kid, so I definitely definitely enjoy that. Um. I did go to film school for a few years. I want to get back into making short video projects. I've been writing some random, kind of new weird genre esque stuff that I would love to like rent a studio space and actually shoot some silly things in the next year and throw them up online just for kind of my own fun. Um.

And then I also been still doing random occultism stuff. Um, that's kind of how I feel my time. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. I think that's an answer. That is an answer. We did it. That's an answer, and more importantly, that's an episode. It is an episode. That is an answer. That is a single content. You all got a content out of us, and be proud of yourselves. Replicate and reproduce another content

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