Meme Magick & Esoteric Kekism: Spooky Week #2

along on a right shadow. We read a whole book for this, Oh at least I did you read a book just for this? I would say that like all of the books I read from age nineteen to twenty two prepared me have that had been preparing here for this. Yeah, the books I read while I was doing psychedelics twice a week. All Really, we're good background on this subject. That is that is true? You want to kick us

off and I don't. So I think firstly we're talking about we're gonna we're gonna emphasize awareness over amplification or that kind of my my goal for this is that we can all be more aware of kind of the power that images on the Internet can have over influencing the actual world, and talking about people who believe this to a ridiculous degree and how they actually have been able to institute change not only because of this belief, just because of their dedication to this practice, because it's

it's because it's a thing that exists and it has had real world ramifications, and it's good to understand that that's a thing, and that also maybe we can influence the way we like us use the Internet to also maybe make good things happen as opposed to just being doomers all the time. Um So that's kind of what I wanted to start with many jubs to that garrison

complete keck with you God. Although to be fair, the past few days I have just been spamming the it could happen here a group chat with horrible nonsense surround keck. It has been the most insufferable week of my life. Horrible nonsense like like paragraphs, paragraph paragraphs, walls of text so big. Any any actually safe working environment that cared

about its employees would have fired you long ago. Yeah. So, I think the other thing that we should definitely mention is that any type of like occultism mysticism or like woo woo um has actually does have a decent history within right wing political ideas and specifically like you know, like more extreme like right wing um stuff in the past few years. Like everyone's most people know that, like the modern not like the like the early Nazis had

some mystical stuff going on. There's a lot more stuff going behind the scenes. A lot of their favorite authors also were like practicing occultists. Um, so this is this is this is a thing that goes back awhile you can even see this to some degree with like how close Christianity is to a lot of the right wing to a lot of like the modern right wing the States as well, a lot of what we would consider evangelical Christianity has a lot of stuff that's actually very

similar to occultism. They just use different terms because occultism and and like magic is taboo. But it's actually the same things. It's all like just it's inter it's interacting with the same systems, just with different words. So like this is this is the thing that is is not it's it's not just on the internet. This is thing that's been going on for thousands of years in particular, the past one years, we've seen a big rise in

the amount of like occultism and mysticism specifically tied to politics. Yeah, and there's this. I mean there have been a couple of articles written just recently about the fact that a lot of like the Woo Woo left, the kind of um not really esoteric, but kind of mainstream a CULTI left, like the popa culti left, has has increasingly turned towards

stuff like Q and On. And a big chunk of it is like this this openness to like feel power in coincidences, synchronicity would be there, and and just a general open mindedness to um, maybe too many things. Sure, Yeah, I mean it's you can see this on on on a lot of a lot of sides because it's yeah, it's it is definitely not just the right wing. I mean it's like the biggest example of it would probably be facets of Q and On the past few years

have done very similar types of things. Uh, there's a lot of other stuff going on behind the scenes, like how how Pepe operated was very similar to that, which

is what we're mainly talking about today. Um, but you know there is also stuff like this on on the left wing, whether it be like new a g type stuff that seems to kind of mostly be bullshit, but there's a you know other other type of like like like like folk magic or like indigenous traditions that have that have I would say slightly more uh significantly more like there's reasonable actually stuff going on as opposed to just like New Age selling books and that kind of stuff. Yeah.

One of the things that also separates actual religion from religion that kind of has formed in this nomadic way recently is that all of this stuff, particularly what we're talking about today, formed simultaneously with political sentiment and as and and was was crafted and in a lot of cases like they state facts wrong specifically because they are trying to craft a political narrative alongside this like weird quasi spiritual things I speaking of spiritualism coming to the

same kind of coming to the same and this is you know, we're all kind of anarchisty adjacent here. And one of the things that really came up around the same time as anarchism in the twentieth century was a concept called chaos magic, which was really really really tied to a lot of old really tied to a lot of like anarchist thought and anarchists kind of thinkers. Some of the most as chaos magicians are like explicitly anarchist,

someone like Grant Morrison. Um. Others are like Discordians which have a lot of like anarchists crossover stuff, like like Robert Enton Wilson, which kind of operates in that same ocean. Yeah, he played a big role in kind of pulling me away from proto alt right style beliefs. And I think also a lot of his work was very intelligently crafted because he wrote about conspiracies, He wrote about esoteric magic, but always with a really intent eye on increasing people's

defenses to this kind of stuff what we're talking about today. Um, he was very like cognizant of that, Like he wrote about conspiracy as an enthusiast, but also as someone who was trying to stop um kind of unchecked conspiratorial belief. Yeah, he went awout about that in peculiar ways, but he

was an odd man. Yeah. And the reason why I've been getting more into this type type of stuff the past year, uh increase, And the reason why I really like chaos magic as I like it as like a post modern system of magic of looking at how basically, if magic is just ideas and trying to figure out how our brains can interact with the physical world, then chaos magic introduces a lot of interesting stuff around like late stage capitalism, because it is is it's explicitly tied

to to like postmodern art and postmodern thought, um in the way you know, brands and marketing and specifically the Internet all affects our minds. All this stuff. It gets talked about in Charos magic a lot, and I really like look using that framework for things um and speaking of that kind of stuff specifically around the Internet, we're

gonna be talking about. The first thing I want to mention is like the concept of searching for something and then you're like you're and you're gonna find it, whether that you know, Robert Enton Wilson and um. Like the illuminious Trilogies has like and like, and Discordianism has like twenty three and the Law of Fives. Right. I I read that book when I was twenty and I have been like seeing twenty three's repeatedly at like significant moments

in my life for the last fourteen years or so. Like, Yeah, it's it's like once you get that kind of meme and planted in your brain, it can stick with you for forever. And and this this happens to everything. You know, This happens to This happens to everyone. Like once you learn about a new topic, the next day, you'll see it somewhere right you'll be like, you'll you'll you'll like it. And it's in all these places that you didn't see it before. This happens all of the time with everything.

This is how this is like how synchronicity works, and this is where religions come from throughout history. And it's because like this all has its roots in why we're very good hunters. We are patterned were pattern recognition, Like our brains are pattern recognizing machines. That's what we're best at. And it means that we're good at spotting berries and tracking deer. And it also means that we can't stop

making religions religions. And if we have one too many synchronicities, we can change the entire way we view about the like the whole world, which can have varying degrees of effects. Sometimes I can if it's just a little bit that can maybe actually be very helpful. If you join a weird cult that does messed up stuff, then it's like, yeah, that's a problem. Sometimes it ends in burning man, and sometimes it ends in burning men. Yeah, drop the bomb

on that one. So first thing I want to kind of discuss before we get into the actual timeline of how pep bank Because became a thing, I want to just do a brief overview of sigils and memes um and the idea of what like, let's let's take the original concept of the meme, which is like, you know, the it's genes are genetic, memes are cultural. There's are cultural ideas that can spread like a virus um and

usually memes. In the since since since the Internet has become way more popular, memes have become more tied to images, like like, memes are a much more visual thing now, whereas in the nineties they were more of just like like an idea concept, but now they have like in this extra visual backing. So a sigil is a is

an magical concept tend mostly to chaos. Magic, which is basically an abstract concept um or or like as a specific concept put into an abstract image that then gets charged and then it's going to manifest itself in your life.

The reason why this works, it's because part part of this desire gets implanted deep in your brain when you charge it through like a trance or there's a there's there's like there's different methods of charging sigils, but you have this, you have this concept and this idea and this desire and it gets put into you. So you're gonna kind of subconsciously do things that that influence it

into becoming something that you can see. Just like you know, if you're if you're looking, if you hear about twenty three, you're gonna see it. Same thing for this. It's it's it's it's the same kind of based concept. UM and then Grant Morrison of Comic book Writers my favorite comic book writer. He he was, he's really the only person

that's developed sigils more since their inception. UM with the concept of a hyper sigil, which is taking this theme idea of like wanting to influence change in the world via this visual medium of a sigil, and instead of just having it be like an abstract glyph that you charge, hyper sigil is an entire work of art with this express interest. UM so everything that you do in this is trying to get some type of real world change, and it's very very intentional, right, and a lot of

art already oprights like this. This is why a lot of postmodern magic is very similar just to like making art, because it's the same kind of basic idea, whether that be something like you know, like the matrix or you know, any any type of art kind of does this already if it is good, um, and it in it confined ways to influence reality. So memes operate on this same way.

And eventually people actually found it. Eventually people on four ch and realized that they that they were doing sigils and started using this word because it's really the same thing when you're when you're altering all of these images of this frog and posting it into all these different kind of more abstract more like ugly obscure kind of like weird like surreal types of types of memes, and

you're spamming them on politicians Twitter account. You're basically doing a group a group schedule and a group hyper sedul because you're all making these individual things and you're spamming them into the world, and because there's so many of them. Yeah,

they're gonna have they're gonna have a real world effect. Yeah, And they're gonna have a real world effect in part because of the way human brains work, in part because of the way algorithms work, which is one of the things where like it's it's easy, especially if you're an impressionable kid, to mistake the algorithm doing what it's designed to do, which is find patterns groups of people sharing something and expand that to a larger group of people.

Go oh, if this cluster of people like this, this will probably be something that's very Algorithms are great at

making synchronicities because that's what you're designed to do. That's what they're supposed that that's the whole point of why they exist, and that's why this is that that that's why are because as you stated a little earlier, and one of these days on Bastards, we're gonna talk about Helena Blovotsky and like the Theosophy movement and more detail, like all of the occult stuff that fed into the

Third the early stage of the Third Reich. But the cult back then is very different from the kind of a cult feeding into fascism now, which is heavily based around synchronicity, because it's also heavily based around social media

and the way memes bread. Yeah, that's why I thinks what the chaos magic has really gotten kind of a resurgence the past few years with social media and how algorithms developed, because they do mirror a lot of the concepts within chaos magic, because the Internet is kind of a chaotic place, but it's also it's not just pure chaos. It is chaos within a framework of order, which is why I like the like the like the chaos star,

like the like the actual like chaos like sigil. Yes, the errors of pointing in every direction, but you can make a perfect circle around all of the arrows. It's because it's not just pure chaos. It actually is contained within this other framework. And by the way, Garrison, when you started talking about u synchronic cities and sigils, I checked my phone for a second and saw that it was five seventeen on October five. Of course contains both two and three, and as thus a sacred number October

twenty three. I shouldn't have to explain why that significant. And remember Robert, it's yeah, but it's three on my phone. Why is my phone's fucked up? Because because because the universe. Baby, that's the synchronicity. I'm living in the future, motherfucker's And what time is it that it's not right now? It was my phone and the other time it is. I don't need to know what time it is your default reality. Yeah, you're you're you're on a different, different dimensional plane. Now

we have two into two different ones. I think. I think this ship, I think this gives up gives us a perfect opportunity for the audience to find their own synchronicities in these ads, because who knows what's going to happen, what's gonna play, So look for patterns and you'll find them. Here's some I hope it's an ad for the Egyptian goddess mod and we are back, We're gonna, We're gonna now actually kind of get into some of the some

of the actual Peppe nonsense. Um. I think. And another important part to mention is that like for a lot of people doing this online, this this is like an online pattern that happens all the time. Um, it happens with it happens with stuff like this, it happens with with with cat boys. It happens with a whole bunch of stuff. Is that like stuff starts as a joke and then you do it a lot and the repetition

basically makes you do it genuinely. Yeah, like me talking about getting all of my followers to a compound in Idaho where we die fighting the f d A exactly, Literally that turns into an actual death cult. So it's it's it starts as a joke and then under repetition it becomes genuine. This happens to basically almost everything on

the internet. Yeah, this, this, this, this, this leads to Garrison and I doing the inevitable Robert Evans Behind the Bastards episode episode Yeah, the three part or if I ever heard one? You you hope? So you wish what what are what are catboys? This that is different? That's a different you're here? That is a different podcast. Think, Yeah, Hi, sorry, I know I only enter Jake briefly. Is that is that? Are they are they like pre furries? Is that some different? No?

Cowboys Fury It's kind of it's it's it's it's rehumanizing the it's rehumanizing the Furies. So like the same way, the same way the same way Sonic the Hedgehog is a re mickey mousification of vegeta. Uh, catboys are a humanification of furries. This is a whole process on the I can explain this in great detail in the later episode, but I think we have enough. We have enough to talk about already. Thank you so much, my dog. Okay.

Sure would someone be willing to sacrifice their own mentality to describe the rise of Pepe and just originally in the early twenty teens, Yeah, so it started as this guy's comic that there was nothing particularly worried about. Yeah, it was just it was a dude's comic. He was like, uh, feels good man was kind of a good man. He was a chill dude. He was a chill dude. Yeah,

not a fascist comic. Peppe is actually pretty fun. Yeah, comic Pepe, He's like he's like a millennial slacker who doesn't really know what to do with his life after like after nine eleven, after the financial crash. He's just

trying to kind of get by the comics. Fine. Yeah, the comics fine, but the art just that kind of the specifics of how he drew Pepe made him very well suited for a meme because he's expressive and he so he shows up and starts getting spread in four chan, and you know, that kind of idea goes viral, and it particularly gets attached to a lot of like the political ship on Pole and the people who are like churning into gamer Gate and the right sad Pepe gets

very popular, Smug Pepe gets very popular. Yeah. Yeah, and then as so Kick is chee chext of it, like later on, I think we'll go over more for like how Pepe is like the cartoon character got you know, as soon as it becomes a meme, it spreads out into all corners. And the people who meaned this hardest we were on Fortune. So this is how pep Peppe became kind of tied to this. And I think the last bullet in Pepe really solidifying him as as an

alt right memes specifically was the Richard Spencer punch. I think I think that's the thing that actually was like done. It's like, no, Pepe is just this now, he can't be anything else because but when when when Richard Spencer was being punched, he was describing what Pepe was. That

was what's happening in that specific viral moment. If you want to talk about like magical terms, this is Pepe getting like charged, Like this is the idea of like this idea getting getting charged because it is now going to be preflated to the masses in this in this moment of like pure motion. So that's when Pepe really gets tight. And I think Hillary Clinton made it very, very worse the way she talked about this kind of stuff on her speeches basically gave gave the alt right

a baseball bat to hit her with. The the problem that Clinton and everyone else because like a big part of I would argue that like the largest part of why Pepe became a thing that was destined to last was that pundits and politicians, including Hillary and media people kept talking about it as a fascist symbol and kept discussing like what it was, and that anyone who grew up on the Internet, who grew up around these communities, knows that you ignore them as much as possible, to

the extent that that's possible. You don't feed the troll you don't give them power, Yeah you don't, And and talking about it again, this is like cast matic like referencing it, bringing it up. Bringing it into the real world gives it power. That's the thing that feeds it. Yeah, so that that's how it got so much more power. The more Clinton talked about it, the more news media

wrote about it, everyone got so excited on unfortune. That's like, that's that's that's like, that is them winning, then them seeing this thing, and and then and then this goes back pre even being far. I can remember because I was in these spaces when they first started doing ship

like raids on the Church of Scientology. Every time there would be actual, like news coverage of what people on the Internet did, it got people so fucking excited because like the Internet had been this thing that didn't matter for the longest I think in the in in the

book I read about this kind of stuff. They they did use the example of like Anonymous and the raids on Centology being like a precursor to this type of like me magic of this thing like like internet forums influencing the real world through repetition and getting getting to grow power, but getting people who don't use Internet to talk about these same things. It was like a precursor to then what we what we saw the al right, which is which is a pretty pretty common opinion. Um.

And then and then enter enter the Egyptian gods. Robert st wanna do you wanna? Don't wanna? I don't want to discuss that. We're gonna That's what we're gonna say. Next is, how's this intersex with Egyptian gods? The ancient Pharaoh's played a card game of ancient and terrible power. Man, nobody wants you as a kid. This is no man, Robert, do you wanna? Do you wanna? Do you wanna? Do you want to discuss keck? Yeah? I mean so way back in the day, um, and I think I think

this even pre dates World War Craft. I remember at first happening on like StarCraft games online, there would be like gamers from Korea, and like when you were doing like a Zurg rush or something, which is when you have a bunch of guys and they all attack the enemy base or whatever, they would type out their term for l O L, which was like keck k e K yeah okay u k so would usually just look like a stream of ku k e k k k

over and over and over again. This really took off in World War Aircraft, where like there were Korean gold farmers were a big thing, and like keck was something that like everyone kind of knew what it meant because

it was often the only thing you can understand. You could you could understand as an American that like these people would be typing um and it as a result of kind of all of that, it took off an internet culture as just an l O L and specifically like one of the things that's going on here as the mid auts dawn and the Internet becomes serious business, and like social media really and everybody's even before social media is dominant, but just when everybody's taking the Internet seriously,

it's clear there's a lot of money in it. It's it's mainstream. You have this this kind of second generation of Internet people who got on in the late nineties early two thousand's when they were kids, who get frustrated at the fact that all of these different terms and phrases and like bits of Internet culture that they had identified with our going mainstream and are using them. Yeah. Yeah, And keck is everyone knows what l O L is.

People don't know what keck is. So in places like four Chune, that becomes a really popular thing, and keck kind of is like so keck as a as a term for laughters, like floating around at the same time as like Pepe memes, and so whenever you whenever you like meme something into the mainstream, whenever like some four chan opera whatever you wanna call it, like succeeds in

getting main stressed it. It's as Hiller Clinton mentions Peppe on stage, everyone in fourtune goes kick because they're laughing. They go can they say, like top keck and whatnot? And and and eventually somebody realizes that there's an Egyptian goddess. One of the translations of that god and goddess his name is k e k Um. Now there's a couple of other translations. There's there's there's there's a whole bunch of issues with this if you want to look at it.

That's with the rational kind of brain is because like this, there was this old family of god's are very very old old Egyptian gods. They all had male and female versions. The male versions all had frog heads um and but around frogs can change their gender. Ye, So like so like all of the all this whole era of Egyptian gods all had frog heads. So they is one of them that was named Keck, who was a god of chaos.

And this also played into how Fortune was using Trump because like they liked Trump mostly as like as like a chaotic reforce that got people angry, because that's what that's what Fortune wanted to do as well. They wanted to be a chaotic force again that gets people angry. That's why they really latched onto Trump. Um. And then when they found out that, oh there's this god named Keck who is like the lord of like like like um like pro that's what's the word um, primordial darkness,

primordial darkness. Yeah, and this idea not even chaos yeah yeah, kind of like um um urinus and like Greco Roman faith, right, like a god kind of before the gods that are are more well known. But like this was a synchronicity. So they took it as like, you know, the same way religions take take synchronicity and create and create like divinity. They took this as like this take they took this

as like divinity. Again. This this starts as a joke, but you do it enough and you start to take it serious, sleigh, and there's a you get a mix of um, you get a mix of of real like Egyptology was that Yeah, there was a god named Kick, like among a bunch of other gods. One of the ways he was depicted was with a frog head. But

also like bad Egyptology. Like I found an article on the word plus press blog Peppe the Frog Faith, which oh, I'm sure this, I'm sure this is like a bastion of archaeology, and and the title is amateur egyptologist weighs in on the frog statue hieroglyphs. And one of the things he points out are talking about the frog statues that isn't check but they thought it was Kick yeah, yeah, yeah,

and a number of things. So like one of the things this guy claims is that the hieroglyphics for keeck are a frogman um and then a couple of what he calls baskets. First up their cups, not baskets. Second, the actual um uh hieroglyphics for for k e K don't include the little frogman. They're like the two of

the little cups in this weird T shaped thing. Like yeah, it's all, it's all, like it's bad again, amateur egyptologist, Like he's just a kid who is googling stuff and like got some either lie or got some hieroglyphics wrong. But but Keck as like an idea of like now we have a backing of an ancient god again first as a joke, but then some people start to take

it more seriously. Really really caught on among people because because it's funny, Like it's it's just funny, and it's gonna catch on on for chat because it's hilarious, right, so they're gonna start using this and repeating this and creating a whole new memes, creating Like there's like there's like an eight eight part book series that's like fake books written by like someone who's like just me big

but pretending to take it seriously. But like the authenticity doesn't actually matter because because it exists, it doesn't actually matter how authentic it is. Yeah, Like and there's there's weird coincidences that continue to occur, Like one of the biggest being there's this like phrase shadow at which creeps up in all of this and becomes like this exhortation that they use like a way of like exclaiming and such.

And then somebody figures out that shad is also a song like an aallow disco song I think from the seventies, and the album that shadows on has like a frog man face on the cover. Um, And so they're like, it's a sign of the because you're gonna find frogs wherever you look now, because that has becomes the uncommon frogs. You're gonna find them everywhere now and there are every

ancient religion everywhere in the world. I'm gonna get guarantee there's some fucking frogs in it, because like they're everywhere, and they're they're old creatures. People pay to frogs. They've been around for a long time. The frogs have been around a wild So the frog the other the other thing that happened. So people not only basically created their whole mythology around this, creating different types of religion. There was like Keckism as a religion, the cult of keck

um esoter Keechism, all of their own distinct differences. Because these people spend all their time on the internet. Um, they developed all these things. And they also found this old frog statue that they said keck it actually it isn't it's actually it's actually a gold called heck it um. But on the basis does it does it doesn't matter. But on the base of the statue it had. It had glyphs which appear to us modern humans as they look like someone sitting on a computer. Like they look

like someone sitting in front of a monitor on a keyboard. Um. And on the other side of the keyboard is a DNA is like what looks like a DNA spiral. So this is like like jeans, right, jeans, jeans are DNA. Memes are cultural DNA. This is a glyph of the god Teck on a statue with someone on a computer with a DNA spiral. Of course they're gonna take this is like some like message from the from the gods. You're like, yes, I'm supposed to be. I am supposed to be by my meming, I'm doing Kex's work to

put Trump into office. Yeah, it's um God, that's frustrating Insurance, it sure is. But like all of those in the group, this is like the statue was just a depiction of what the check people and the and the Pepper standards were doing posting on the internet to manifest real world change.

And that's that's all it is. If you want to see other examples of this, like if you look at the ancient alien stuff, there's this like famous my Mayana hieroglyph of the astronomer that's like if you if you know what a telescope is, because you're looking at it a thousand years after it was carved, it kind of looks like it might be a telescope, and it's part of what like people say like, oh, this is proof that like that this is an alien Like he's looking

at a fucking telescope. No, it was, there's other explanations for it. It was something like that somebody carved. Yeah, I think there's another thing that you start and I see this like not even like I see this just this is just on the end of all time, like I see left, just do this or like so like okay, so you learn something and then oh it's not true, but then people will keep spreading the thing because they'll say people, yeah, yeah, it has more power with it,

so you're still gonna believe it. Yeah, Like when we talk about the fact that Will Wheaton murdered three people in if you repeat this is the message like yeah, yeah with a knife, what's horrible yeah. Now, I mean he was in Thailand at the time, so he was able to get out and we don't extra diet, so he's he's got out scott free. But yeah, but I mean like this is like the same this is the same thing that Trump does, which we'll talk about it,

but we'll talk about a bit. It's like if you would repeat the thing enough, it becomes true for large swats of the population that that's that's that's all truth actually needs to be for people. Um, I think I think we're gonna go and break uh and come back and close us, close us up, and finally finished this horrible discussion. Um. Anyone know who won't meme fascism? Well, actually, KFC, the have you seen have you seen the KFC fascist

posting on Twitter? Yeah, there's like a Spanish KFC account that has been doing that that it's up to some ship. I hate I hate that. That's a sentence that that that you got to say. I just hate it. For products, And we are back. I have finished an entire dark meat bucket and I am so full. Um yep. And now now I'm sad. I'm sad because I'm still thinking

of the fascist KFC Twitter account. Um so we we The other thing I want to do, want to mention is kind of Trump's own power of belief kind of idea and how Trump was basically using esoteric terms, was able to basically create an alternate reality for millions of people to live in. Um And there's really no getting through to them now because they are literally just in it, just in a different dimension. And there's just there's there's no way to pierce that other dimension. They're basically living

in just a totally alternate reality. There's there's no use saying that it is the one that we live in. Um. So Trump is obsessed with a few of these ideas. He's less than like the like, He's less interested in like the woo and more interested in like the power of positive thinking, power of your own belief. He grew

up in a movement and a specifically stuff. Yeah, he grew up following a specific movement and church called that falls under the umbrella called New Thought um, which is where Trump's you know, Trump's like like how strong Trump's ego is comes from this idea of that you need to reinforce yourself and reinforce your own victories because if you do that, you're gonna you're you're gonna find them. Right If if if you're looking for twenty three, you're gonna

find it. If you're looking for your own victories, you're going to force them to happen, um, even if they don't happen into other people. Right. But like so that we see this happening successfully with the election, we see both like all of the meming, everything that happened in

twenty in the Trustean election worked for Trump UM. And you know, you know, of course, of course he didn't win the popular vote, but that doesn't actually matter, but it worked into in getting him to office now it you know, it worked less well for the election um, but still his reassertions that he won still gave us a lot of real world results, like the January six

Capital insurrection. So like it's this, right, so this type of idea that if you re if you if you reinforce this thing, if you reinforce this belief, if you can, if you have if you have this idea and you keep putting it out into the world, it's gonna manifest some type of real, real world result. And that that was January six, That's what that was. And and that's the kind of the world we live in now. It's like the weaponized unreality world where people become is of

how media works. Because are the Internet works, they're able to create this like chaotic like the sphere of of energy and ideas that can like spread so much faster than anything used to be that could everyone can segment their own reality into two degrees that we've never really seen before because of how fast information can travel. Now, um, it is, it is it is a new it's it

is a relatively new thing. The way that the way that this this this can operate, so like memes, memes themselves like Pepe and all this kind of stuff undoubtedly had had an impact on not only just the twenties sixteen election, but just the entire political climate surrounding the

whole Trump presidency. Uh. Now, to the degree to which we can credit me magic or the god kick, that part is meaningless because because the effect is the same that like the synchronicities were still experienced and and truth is just is just experiential. So it's the beliefs that we kind of hold will shape how we experience things anyway, and that will experience what the actual truth is there's there.

There is a great Robert Nton Wilson quote that is like reality is what you can get away with, yep. And that's that's like that that like summarizes how Trump was able to be so successful is because he was

able to shape reality. Right. I think me and me and Chris were talking about this the other day about how, Chris, do you want to say the thing about like the Democratic Party and Republican Party and how okay, okay, So there's there's there's there's a thing and Garrison I think it was too young for this, but there's a very famous thing that that one of the Bushman Pedietrician people said about how Democrats lived in the reality based community. And this this is like a whole thing in the

in like the two thousands. This is just in the Bush administration and everyone loses their minds and this is like a whole meme on the Democrats that's like, oh, we're the reality based community and they're not. But but then this is the interesting part. If you look at the second part of that quote, right, we's actually saying is that so the Democrats are the reality based community, right,

they they analyze reality. The Republican party is the party that creates reality because other people in control the empire. And this is this is what neo conservative this was right. And you know, the argument here basically is that the Democrats are you know, they're always going to be a step behind because they're merely analyzing reality, whereas Republicans using the powers or of the state to you know, change and define it. And this this worked for them, you

know what. I would argue that this is how they came into power, This is how there's this is what they're still doing. Yeah. Yeah, why every president since Ronald Reagan has just been Ronald Reagan with a mask. Yeah. But but I think I think there's something very important here, specifically about how Bush took office, right because Bush Bush steals the election, right, Bush does like the thing that Trump was trying to do is what George Bush did in two and two thousands, but with a riot, just

with a very kind of riot. Yeah. But but this is the thing, the thing, this is the thing that Bush and the neo cons understood that the Trump is kind of understand but never quite solidified because they're not like they're not sort of insider political actors, Which is that Okay, so all of the stuff about saying something and it becoming real. Right, there's there there's sort of

a limit to this if if you don't have a gun. Now, if you have a gun, then the limits of that are are you know, it's it's you can be basically whatever you want because you can just you can force everyone else to also accept this as reality that you know, this is what the state is. Right and there there's there's a whole there's a whole thing. This is a couple of performance theory. It's like, yeah, so like you you saying the thing makes it so right? Well, this

is this is what a state is. And this is how Bush won the election because he, unlike Trump, who's people tried to like take power directly about like Stormy in the Capitol. Bush was smart and Bush was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna de clare that I won the election. And but but but instead of like openly doing it right, I'm going to get the Supreme Court to declare that I'm president. And you know, and this this this requires the Brooks brothers, riots, stop the counts and all the stuff.

We were like, you know, it's doesn't yeah, yeah, it's great. But it's like it doesn't it doesn't matter that, you know, he he didn't win Florida, Like if if if if if if, if the if the votes had actually been counted, he would not have won Florida. But because he was able to get the courts to say that he was president,

he was president. And and that's that is the concept of magic words yep, yep, and this is this is this, this is this is all the state is right, it's this this this the state is magic with a gun behind it. Yeah, it is, yeah, the state of magic. Because it's like, yeah, you're right. It's like magic can

have a hard cap. There's going to be a certain people that you know, with with with Trump's reality altering kind of power, there's a certain that there is a hard cap on how much that can influence the general population. But if you have a gun behind that, that gives us so much more enforceable power. And to go back to Egyptian mythology, one of the attitudes they had about the pharaoh is that reality was whatever the pharaoh declared.

Other a lot of societies of this idea towards their monarchs, and the duty of his people is to make reality conform to the Pharaoh's will, and like, that's that's what the GOP does. Like that fascist. So I think I think the quote surrounding like, yeah, the Democrats are the reality based party because they because they you know, observe reality and and like and yeah and and like and like and like. Libs and Democrats are like yes, they like they take this on prior, like, yes, we are rational,

we observe reality. Meanwhile the Republicans like, no, you just observe it, but we can just we can create it. I think that is a great example of how those two parties operate politically and how like, yes they're both they're both right leading parties. But here's the difference for how they actually operate is that one of them is way more passive in their observing of reality and one is is okay with getting their hands dirty and actually

forcing this type of reality altering changes. I will say, I think, like one thing to close this out is that you know we can we when we can tie this all the way back to the second part of the Duel Power episode, which is that the Nikon Kon project doesn't work, and the reason it doesn't work is that you know, they they like they basically they lose

militarily and that just that implodes the entire project. And so you know, and if if if if you look back at like all of this stuff about how we can shape reality, we can shape reality, we can shape reality. That stopped being true the moment that you know, like they lose control of Bosra or like you know, all like they when the other people, Uhder is to be

unkillable by all the weapons of Empire. Yeah, yeah, it's like you know, and and Sawder and Solder does this by like you know, Sauder sets up a bunch of baby clinics, right, He's like, here's a bunch of clinics. Heared we we we will will give help the pregnant mothers, like you guys really gonna shoot us. And you know, he builds a militia around this, and he's and he's able to like he's one of the smartest people on

the planet. He's yeah, and he's not. It's not a good guy, but like completely shatter the neo cons like they they're dead, Like they don't like that. That project, which was like the culmination of this this incredible like into that described in electro projects of Trouble military project and they got their absolute ask kick by watch of

people doing dual power. Yep, I think, and I I really, I do want to talk more about kind of chaos magic and there's a lot on the grounding, and I think, but yeah, I think this is a great intrin how how these concepts overlapped with politics and reality. Disagree on the end of this with one aspect, Garrison, because you said their reality can't be pierced, But the ancient texts speak of a spear that once pierced the side of Christ itself, and while Hitler held it, his armies were ascended,

but it was stolen. And if we can find this, Sparrison, we can pierce their reality. Hey, I have a Fedora, I have a whip. We could we all have Fedora, Garrison, do it. Let's go. We are We are off to find the spear that signs us off the sphere of destiny. You can follow our adventures on Happened Here pod and Coles Media on Twitter. Um and yeah, I'm sure we will give you updates for our Spirit ventures of the Pod. Sophie. We need half a million dollars to find the Spirit

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