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Iron Butterfly

Iron Butterfly Mediawww.ironbutterflymedia.com

The first podcast by and for women in the US Intelligence Community, The Iron Butterfly Podcast brings you real stories from women in intelligence.


Eighty years ago, Eloise Page joined the Office of Strategic Services, trailblazing a path for what ultimately became the United States Intelligence Community. She rose the ranks from secretary to case officer, defying the norms of her time, and eventually became the first female Chief of Station at CIA. Eloise was known among her colleagues to be a fierce fighter with a core of steel, and she earned the code name "Iron Butterfly."


Our podcast continues her legacy, inviting the unsung heroines of the US intelligence community to share their stories with aspiring leaders like you.Women in the intelligence community are special because they've dedicated their lives to studying the whole world. And through conversations with hundreds of women in intelligence over the past few years, we've come to understand that the world is at an inflection point. Women hold a more central role in society than ever before, and at Iron Butterfly Media, we are committed to amplifying authentic voices that inspire women to create, wherever they are.


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Episodes

Special Episode: The Leprechaun, The Jackal, and Envoy

Join us this week for a special episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, where we host a panel of three amazing men in the IC. Our first panelist, Chairman Mike Rogers, was a former Army Officer and FBI agent, and served as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI). We also welcome LTG Vince Stewart, a Marine veteran and career intel officer who served as the Director of Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Lastly, we are joined by Nick Kolman-Mandle, a former briefer ...

Mar 30, 20211 hr 5 min

Janna Scott-Tarman: The Trampoline

Tune in this week for a powerful new episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast. Join us as we sit down with Janna Scott-Tarman, Senior Intelligence Oversight Officer in the Defense Intelligence Agency's Office of Counterintelligence. Find out why Janna considers herself an “accidental intelligence officer” and how her experience on September 11, 2001 shaped her career trajectory. Janna discusses everything from embarrassing memories as an intelligence briefer to the painful realities of leading team...

Mar 23, 202139 min

Joan Dempsey: Steely Eyed Blonde

"I will gladly hold your capes for you,” Joan Dempsey tells our listeners on this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast. Joan served in the federal government for 25 years in a variety of roles with the Office of Naval Intelligence, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and the Central Intelligence Agency. On this episode, Joan discusses being the only woman in the room, finding moments to create change, and the importance of remembering that life is sho...

Mar 16, 202128 min

Jeny Mills: Blue Hand

Listen in to this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly Podcast as we sit down with Jeny Mills, an Africa Analyst at INR who grew up in the Comoros Islands. On this episode, Jeny shares her journey from human rights activist to Presidential Management Fellow at the State Department, and discusses trailblazing new paths for women, decision-making in crisis situations, and serving abroad in a danger zone. Tune in to hear Jeny debunk myths surrounding mental health in the IC, the importance of caree...

Mar 09, 202149 min

Dr. Stacey Dixon: Serene

This week on the Iron Butterfly, we sat down with Dr. Stacey Dixon, Deputy Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA). In this episode, Stacey takes us along her path from academia to the intelligence community, which included stints on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) staff and as the Director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity (IARPA). She shares how her STEM background helped her land multiple roles throughout her career, the...

Mar 02, 202132 min

Mary Legere: Dragon Six

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are joined by Lieutenant General (Ret.) Mary Legere. Mary spent 34 years in the Army, culminating as the Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, or G2. She also served as the Commander of the Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) and the Senior Military Intelligence Officer in Iraq and the Republic of Korea. Mary currently works as a Managing Director at Accenture Federal Services. Tune in as Mary reflects on commanding 58,0...

Feb 23, 202159 min

Lynn Dugle: Boundless

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly, we are joined by Lynn Dugle. Lynn has more than 30 years of experience in defense, intelligence, and telecommunications, and most recently served as Engility’s Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board. Prior to Engility, she worked as the President of Raytheon’s Intelligence, Information, and Services business. Lynn also serves on several boards, including the B2B Project, which actively works to place more women in the Boardroom. This week,...

Feb 16, 202126 min

Leslie Ireland: Wonder Woman

In our first episode of season two, Iron Butterfly is joined by Leslie Ireland. Leslie is the former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Intelligence and Analysis and the National Intelligence Manager for Threat Finance. Leading up to that assignment, she worked at CIA for 25 years, serving as PDB Briefer for President Obama and as the Intelligence Community’s Mission Manager for Iran. Tune in as Leslie talks about the importance of being perseverant and polite, how her failures brought her ...

Feb 09, 202150 min

Season Two Teaser

Iron Butterfly Season Two Coming Soon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 03, 20211 min

Yvette Hopkins: Amarone 6

In our final episode of Iron Butterfly's inaugural season, we are joined by Yvette Hopkins, current Executive Vice President at the Shetland Space Centre. In this conversation, Yvette shares her incredible professional journey as a US Army Officer for nearly 30 years, which culminated as the Director of Intelligence for the US Army Special Operations Command in Africa (SOCAFRICA). Her other roles included many of our community's "firsts," and Yvette discusses her experiences serving in Germany w...

Dec 15, 202054 min

Alice Fisher: Radar

On this week's episode of the Iron Butterfly Podcast, we had the opportunity to talk with Alice Fisher. Alice is an NSI Advisory Board member and lawyer who had been working at the Department of Justice (DOJ) for six weeks when the tragedies of 9/11/2001 took place. She spent her early years at DOJ prosecuting terrorism cases, and later helped stand up the National Security Division. She was the second woman to serve as Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Criminal Division of the Departm...

Dec 08, 202026 min

Dawn Meyerriecks: Heritage Oak

Join us this week as we sit down with Dawn Meyerriecks, Deputy Director for Science and Technology (DS&T) at the Central Intelligence Agency. Dawn discusses her experience as a late-career hire, the importance of reverse-mentoring, and why she wants her team to fail fast, learn, and move on. She shares her leadership style, including her work to create an environment where people feel encouraged to take risks and push the boundaries of the possible. Tune in to learn more about the importance...

Dec 01, 202033 min

Maria Witkop: Stone Catcher

This week on the Iron Butterfly Podcast, we are joined by Maria Witkop, a 21-year veteran of the FBI. Maria served in a variety of roles in the Bureau, to include evidence collection at Ground Zero after 9/11, working in the Behavioral Analysis Unit, and serving as a certified Crisis Negotiator. In this episode, Maria discusses the importance of listening and building trust, or as she says, "reaching out instead of kicking," even in the face of atrocities. Join us to find out why Maria was hugge...

Nov 24, 202036 min

Margery Conway: Meteorite

On this episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are excited to share this breaking story of “Margery Conway.” Margery—who was required to use this alias by the Central Intelligence Agency—spent her career working at CIA as a Case Officer. In this episode, Margery shares her experience as the first woman Case Officer to give birth overseas, the first woman to file and win a class action lawsuit against the CIA for discrimination, and the first of our guests to actually meet Eloise Page, the rea...

Nov 17, 202047 min

Corin Stone: Tempered Glass

Corin Stone, former Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Strategy and Engagement at the Office of the National Director of Intelligence (ODNI), joins us this week on the Iron Butterfly podcast. Corin previously worked at the State Department where she completed a tour in Iraq and served as Legal Advisor to Ambassador Negroponte. Corin helped to create the ODNI after 9/11, as well as a legal culture within the IC. As a lawyer who has worked at the State Department, NSA, and ODNI, Corin di...

Nov 10, 202032 min

Janice Glover-Jones: Warrior Luminous

This week, Janice Glover-Jones, Chief Diversity, Equality and Inclusion Officer at the Defense Intelligence Agency joins us on the Iron Butterfly Podcast. Janice shares insight from her successful journey through every single government rank, from GS-1 to Senior Executive. Janice has held multiple leadership roles across the intelligence and defense communities and explains how she hopes to inspire others to achieve their goals. Janice discusses the value of cultivating her relationships, stayin...

Nov 03, 202028 min

Suzanne Kelly: Cipher One

Suzanne Kelly, CEO and publisher of the Cipher Brief, joins Iron Butterfly this week. Suzanne shares her journey to the Cipher Brief and becoming the go-to resource for in-depth coverage of national security issues. Prior to starting the Cipher Brief, Suzanne worked for CNN where she was the Intelligence Correspondent. She built the Cipher Brief from her 20+ years as a journalist. Suzanne is known for being an entrepreneur, bringing creative ideas to the table, and her approach to getting people...

Oct 27, 202036 min

Mary Quinn: Q

This week, Iron Butterfly is joined by Mary Quinn. Mary has almost three decades of government work under her belt, serving in roles such as Intelligence Officer for the Army, Senior SOUTHCOM Representative, Chief of Operations at Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and Deputy Director of the National Media Exploitation Center at DIA. Mary also worked in the private sector and has been a high school teacher and coach. Join us as she discusses building confidence, becoming a leader, and the import...

Oct 20, 202038 min

Jenifer Smith: Sapphire Helix

Jenifer Smith joins Iron Butterfly this week to share how a female biochemist ended up working in national security. Jenifer served as an FBI Special Agent for 23 years, where she oversaw analysis for DNA and weapons of mass destruction, and she also led the CIA’s Biological Technology Center. Throughout her career, she investigated some of the most high-profile cases in the community, including the Unabomber and White House scandal involving former President Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Th...

Oct 13, 202037 min

Tish Long: The Velvet Hammer

This week, Iron Butterfly is joined by Tish Long, former Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, and the first woman who became Director for a "big five" 3-letter agency. She shares her experience serving in key leadership roles across the community, including as the Deputy Director of Defense Intelligence Agency, Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence, and Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence. In this episode, Tish walks us through her journey to becoming one of our...

Oct 06, 202028 min

Ellen McCarthy: Big Mac

The Honorable Ellen McCarthy, Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research (INR), joins Iron Butterfly this week to share her experiences rising through the ranks in the intelligence community. Ellen has served in a variety of government, private sector, and non-profit roles, including as the COO of NGA, President of Noblis NSP, and President of INSA. This conversation explores INR's roots in the OSS, Ellen's own unconventional career path, and AWIC's power connecting women across ...

Sep 29, 202029 min

Karen Gibson: Kumquat

This week, Iron Butterfly is joined by Karen Gibson, a former U.S. Army Lieutenant General who served as the Director of Intelligence for four different organizations, including CENTCOM and deployed Task Forces in Iraq and Africa. She shares her adventures at the exciting nexus of intelligence and operations, and brings listeners "inside the tent" where military decision-making happens. In this episode, Karen tells stories about the real impact of her work as a forward-deployed intelligence offi...

Sep 22, 202033 min

Sue Gordon: Simple Patriot

The Honorable Sue Gordon, former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, joins Iron Butterfly this week to share her experiences braving uncertainty and making tough decisions in senior roles across the community. Sue is a 29-year CIA veteran with over 3 decades in the IC, and is known for her incredible leadership across the community, especially in advancing intelligence integration, expanding outreach and partnerships, and driving innovation. This discussion delves into the challe...

Sep 15, 202029 min

Carmen Medina: Rebel at Work

Carmen Medina, former Deputy Director for Intelligence Central Intelligence Agency and NSI Advisory Board member, joins Iron Butterfly to discuss her 32 years’ experience in the Intelligence Community. Carmen is the co-author of Rebels At Work: A Handbook for Leading Change from Within and of the landmark piece, Diversity’s New Frontier: Diversity of Thought and the Future of the Workplace . Her story as a change agent at CIA is featured in Wharton School professor Adam Grant’s bestseller Origin...

Sep 08, 202025 min

Iron Butterfly Trailer

Welcome to the Iron Butterfly Podcast, co-produced by the National Security Institute and the Amazing Women of the IC, better known as AWIC. Iron Butterfly is the first podcast by and for women in the US Intelligence Community which brings you real stories from women in intelligence. Eighty years ago, Eloise Page joined the Office of Strategic Services, or the OSS, a predecessor for what we recognize today as the United States Intelligence Community. Page started as a secretary, but worked her w...

Sep 02, 20201 min
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