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Ally: We're, we're here. Yeah.
We have consistency. We're here.
Sure. Yeah.
Uh, welcome to Into the Twilight and our brand new summer refresh.
Yes.
Brought to you, I can't even take, I can't take any credit for it. That's all you. That's all, that's all Cody.
We got new things. We're out here.
We got new stuff.
We got new stuff, baby.
I'm so excited to read again.
I know. Yeah. We're gonna be literate, maybe. We might read a book for the podcast, which we haven't done in so many years, it seems.
I miss it. I love that we were like, let's read a book for the podcast right as this show launches its spin off.
Yeah, hey, you know, we could also do that. Listen, the the Coven TMTM is a very loosey goosey. It could be a book club, it could be a show club. We could just do that.
Yep. It's whatever y'all want. We are open to the whims.
Right. Right.
We can be bought. We do say that often here.
Right. Yeah, I'm, I'm more willing to be bought than ever before, so.
Always. Yep. How, how are you? How are you doing?
I'm here. I'm living. I would like to talk about a show. And I know, A, the timing of this is not great because the star in question has been saying stuff on twitter.com and also the trades that I'm not a fan of.
Yes, she's, she's making me sad.
She's making, she's making some choices.
With her fuck ass boyfriend.
Yeah. But, and I also know that I'm like the last person on earth to watch this show. I get it, I get it, okay? All right. Let me talk about it.
No, you talk about it. Cody: Okay, great. I, I can always count on you.
But I wanna talk about Poker Face, okay?
Okay.
Cause it's so fun.
I wish you would.
And I, I don't know why it took us so long to start watching it because on paper it is everything I love, right?
I agree. I get ads for it all the time.
Ads for all the time and it's like very, listen, I'm a slut for a Columbo, for a Murder She Wrote.
Yes, yes.
Right? Give me a monster/murder of the week situation and I'm fucking happy.
That is, you could lure me into a trap with it.
Yeah. Yes, I'm very susceptible to this exact kind of thing.
Yeah, I agree.
We're in that weird television period right now where a lot of things have just recently ended or are ending and some things are starting up again. But like in that weird little medium of like, we don't have a lot that we're currently watching on a week to week basis.
Yeah, I don't know why HBO Max passed the torch to Love Island as the new Sunday discourse show, but all right.
Yeah, what a historic layup for HBO to be like, okay, all of our biggest shows we're gonna end on the same week and then we're gonna fill that void with the Cocomelon that is And Just Like That. And you know what? I respect that. I respect that, okay? So we finally decided to try it and it's fucking fun, man. It's so good. Ryan Johnson's fucking whole thing is all over this thing. His, his hands are in every pie in this situation and it's great.
All right, damn it.
And you can tell that he like loves this kind of media, right? Of just like this, it is very much in reference to a lot of things and it's very fun because while it is, you know, there is a larger arc of like Natasha Lyonne's character throughout a season, but it's also a very murder of the week kind of vibe where like there is a different thing happening each
episode. So you can have more fun with like guest casting or like, you know, different like just like little vignettes of something rather than a larger show with a lot of larger arcs and stuff, which is fucking fun. They don't be making shows like this anymore and I love that shit.
They don't.
They don't. And it's fucked up cause I wanna see a variety of give me, give me Chloe Sevigny as a uh, doom metal front woman who maybe does a murder, maybe, who knows, right?
Maybe. It is disappointing to have Natasha where she's at right now.
Yeah.
Because the best kind of murder of the week content has awareness and commentary.
Right.
And so to have her and her boyfriend owning an AI company and going like deep into that right now, I'm like, hey girl.
Yeah.
What's up with that?
Like, hey, and why are we like tripling down? You know what I mean?
Right, right.
There's some very like measured criticism, not even like, you know, fuck you, right? Which like people can feel however they want, whatever, that's fine. But like people are being very like, hey, this kind of feels bad, right? Just as a whole. And it's just like she's going full cartoon villain in opposition and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think we've gotten, uh, the reaction here is a little bit, uh, not great. Don't love it.
Right. Like we know you're so defensive cause you're making up quotes from people who are dead.
Right. It's like, I don't know if that's how you get the people in your favor, my guy.
God damn. Ally: That's a choice, you know? Girl, so confusing.
Literally. But yes, very, listen, mixed feelings, but as a product of a show, it is very fun and it's a good time. It fills a void.
That is very helpful to know because I do get ads for it on Peacock all the time. I'm like, hey, I'd probably like that.
Right.
Let me just go rewatch New Girl again.
Yeah, many such cases, for sure.
Yeah. Damn. Okay, that's good to know.
Uh, how are you doing, my dude? I'm very intrigued by this image you're selecting here.
Listen, listen, okay? It's been a week at work.
Sure.
And I, the only thing that I wanted to talk about is not helpful content to anyone because I've just been all of the content on Dropout this week was brought me joy.
Yeah.
And that's not interesting to anyone. Uh, but it's true and it's real. So what I wanted to bring to this space is something that I got from Costco this week.
Okay.
Uh, and has been helpful.
Okay, Costco. Ally: Yes, thank you Costco. Um, uh, it's been very helpful because it's been very warm here in the Pacific Northwest. Mm.
I've been wanting this, it's been on my to buy list for like three years, but I haven't bought it cause I've been like, uh, I can solve this in other ways.
Sure.
I finally got a neck fan.
Ooh. Ally: And it is unfortunately so worth it. Yeah. Yeah.
I, since I got this a couple days ago, we're best friends now.
Right. Ally: I love this thing. Can join at the hip now.
We are, we are, we're soulmates actually.
Wow.
Um, I fucking love this neck fan. And the thing is, so y'all know this about Costco, right? You can't just buy like one thing. So it came in a pack of two.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't know what I'm gonna do with the other one yet. I might, you know, I might donate it or something or keep it in case I fucking use through this other one, I don't know.
Sure. Ally: Um, but what I enjoy about it is it, it's made in a way that's really comfortable to sit on your neck. Mm-hmm. Ally: So it's not like hard, which is nice. Sure. Yeah, yeah.
But when I, I talked about this a couple years ago that I got a bed jet, those like fans for my when I sleep at night.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And that is still, I use that thing every night. It's the best purchase I've ever made as far as like cost per use.
Yeah.
But the only thing that it doesn't help with on times like this where it's hot out is the top, right? Like face neck up.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Because that's not where the sheet goes.
Sure.
So this helps with that of like if I don't want to bring a desk fan into my face.
Sure.
Because that would probably cause dry nose and all that stuff. I can just use a neck fan when I'm getting settled at night, helps with sensory issues.
Yeah.
And it's perfect.
Hell yeah.
And I'm, it's so simple. I don't know why I put off getting it for years because I was like, oh well, I'll just use an ice pack or whatever.
Sure.
It's great, it's perfect. I'm, thank you neck fan.
Hell yes. The truly the innovation in the fan space.
Listen.
Is commendable. Like no, not even a joke. Like actually truly I feel this way of like, hell yeah, get it on your neck. Hell yeah, make it really small and hold in your hand, you know? Fuck yeah.
It's so, it's so year 3000 because when I was a kid, we would have those ones you'd hold in your hand.
Sure. Yeah, yeah.
And you would put up, but you had to keep it to like right next to your fucking eyes because they wouldn't, they weren't strong enough.
Right. And sometimes, sometimes if people were cool enough, they'd have the ones where you could also spritz water on them too. But this is, you don't have to hold it in your hands. Yeah.
That's such a game changer. So thank you neck fan, you're great. I appreciate you immensely. You would have changed my life when I was like playing softball.
Sure.
And I mean, I wouldn't have been able to like bring it out into the outfield, but like waiting for tournaments when I was outside all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Oh my god. Uh, thank you neck fan. I appreciate you immensely.
Yeah. Wow.
And also thank you Costco because I was like, uh, well, I don't, I don't know where else I'm gonna get this, but Costco.
Yeah. Cody: Sure. Only tangentially related, but I saw one of my favorite headlines I've ever seen in my life this morning in which the TSA has had to beg people to stop using their Costco membership card as a real ID and that's just a beautiful, it's a beautiful concept to me.
I love that. Ally: Listen. Okay, but here's the thing.
Mm.
I, that's funny that people are doing that, but also Costco's has, they ha, are so strict.
Sure. Yeah.
About letting people in with your Costco member ID, the fact that you can't use that is wild.
Oh, yeah. Like what's more real than this ID, this form of ID?
Right, exactly. Cause they gotta go through, they're looking every which way. I, yes, I know that it's not valid like government form of ID. Everyone shut up.
To you.
To you. But you have to get your photo on it and they look at
Yeah, they're doing the same shit where it's like that Logitech fucking camcorder, webcam, taking your photo against a wall. What's different? What's different?
Exactly. Costco knows all, they have all my data. So what do you mean that it's not the TSA, okay?
Yeah.
It's more valid than, what do you want me to do? Bring an electricity bill?
Yeah, come on.
Same thing.
Come on.
It's the same thing as when Costco sends me my gift certificate for spending money there, okay? Same thing. I, I wouldn't do it cause y'all can't catch me flying for nothing. There's no way in hell I'm flying with people.
Yeah.
But that's absolutely, that makes sense to me.
Yeah.
I get it and I support people for doing it. God forbid someone has whimsy, okay?
Yeah, jeez. Come on. There's so little joy in this world. Let someone just go wild with their Costco membership.
It's just you know someone did it as like a funny joke and then the people above them were like, hey, I didn't know that that one works. Let me try that.
Do you tell me I don't have to go to the DMV? Fuck yeah, you kidding?
God damn. So we don't have a lot of news this week.
We don't.
But we are in the throws of Dakota Johnson press junket right now.
Uh, it's my favorite time ever in the world.
I am very excited to see this Challengers us movie.
Yes. Oh, absolutely.
It does look very good. I, I don't know what it's about, but I saw Dakota and one of the sets on late night talking about how it's a romance, comedy, drama.
Yeah.
And I'm, I'm locked in.
I'm here for it. Absolutely.
Yeah. We have two pieces of news. One, in which you sent to me this week.
The way that's like the siren song now of what. It's so good.
I should have known.
Right. It's like that's how you know. If she's hanging out, if any of your girlies are hanging out with Taylor Swift at night just with the girls, like there's a breakup/broken off engagement in the works. Like that's the, that's the kill shot, you know?
It's not a bad move for publicists, I'll tell you that.
Absolutely, for sure.
So I, you were smart in sending me this because you weren't wrong. I also thought that Dakota and Chris Martin had been out of it.
Yeah.
They had changed their Facebook relationship status a long time ago.
For sure. Yeah.
But apparently it's for reals this time.
I love too like the quotes in here are being like, it feels real this time, you know, like it actually might happen. And it's like, I feel, you know, Berenstein Bears right now of like, this happened already, right? Like this was a thing. But again, we haven't seen them like together in a while and we know we don't, you know, like I don't know. This is not just like it's not a couple that we are really on the pulse of anything.
Thankfully I don't want to.
No, yeah, I'm fine. Like whatever, y'all do, y'all do your thing, whatever. Um, but apparently it's like for real this time, question mark.
I just, Dakota, you deserve better than off and on relationships with all Chris Martin of all people.
Yeah.
God damn. Why is he, he needs to figure his shit out, okay?
Yeah. This man is pushing 50, you know what I mean?
Why is it still complicated for him?
Right. What does he have? What is he waiting for, you know? It feels like they've been engaged for a thousand years.
Why can't he love you like you do?
Right. Cody: He's 50. Right.
I don't understand.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, apparently she's, she stepped out, she looked great. She's, she just wants to be bejeweled and he can't handle it.
Yeah. I love, okay, so this is confirming what I was thinking of. So in last year, summer of last year, there were rumors of this again. Um, but the way this rep for them like clarifies it is so funny because they're like, oh yeah, they're super happy. Like sure, they've had issues and like taken breaks, but things are so sick. And then she says, they both love their careers. Like that's, that doesn't inspire the most amount of confidence in like the happiness of their relationship.
I think Chris Martin is trying to follow the Ben Affleck playbook here.
Sure.
Of we're just gonna do an off and on. But he has overestimated how much I care here because he doesn't have a Matt Damon side piece.
No.
If he does, let me know.
Right.
When you get one, let me know. But for now, I don't give a shit. I, my favorite thing to come out of the press junket was Dakota just absolutely taking down the Alex's.
God.
For variety.
Listen, she's right.
She's not wrong.
She's right. It, listen, those two, I, because I'm, you know, internet brain, I unfortunately do know the difference. Do I like that I know the difference? No, I hate it. I shouldn't know the difference because these two white women are exactly the same in content in terms of just how they look as well. So I get it. She's right to say that.
I think it is a valuable take for her to look at them and be like, so they're both named Alex.
Right.
They both have podcasts. They, do they like each other? Do they not like each other?
Are they friends? I don't know, are they beefing? What's going on?
She got a lot more interested when she thought they were beefing, which is.
Yeah. Cody: Right. Battle of the Alex's, you know? Earl versus Cooper.
It was very refreshing for her to be like, why, what do you mean that they are so close to each other on this attendance list and they do the same thing? You need to get a different niche, please.
Oh, God.
Thank you. Thank you Dakota. It's wildly refreshing from someone of your nepotism caliber.
Yeah, listen, she's so funny. When she's allowed to be funny, it's great. And sometimes it's very unintentionally so, but it's even more so in that way, which is great. Like people on this press tour for some reason keep asking her about Madame Web and she has to keep going, listen, that wasn't my fault. I don't know what to tell you guys. I tried my best, okay? Lay off.
I'm so grateful that they keep asking her about it though.
Yeah, no, never stop truly. And she should do it more. I was not sure what to expect this week. Mm. Ally: Yeah.
Especially after last week when all I wanted was happiness for senior prom and all I got was pain.
Right.
But this was the most back door pilot that I've ever seen.
Literally, like, I don't even know if it was a back door, it was a front door.
It was a front door. Right. It's like, hey, do you wanna know more about these people? What if I told you there's a whole other show starting this road? And it's like, listen, I see what you're doing, I get it. However, like, given the point in time we are in this narrative and in this season, it feels fucking batshit. Can we hit snooze?
Yeah, it was like, can we pick this up some other time? Like I feel like there's a lot of threads that we still need to resolve in the next two episodes of this television program. And like, why are we spending 45 minutes and I, listen, I love New Orleans, I love the vibe here, for sure, but I'm like, I think we got stuff at home that we gotta deal with that's a bit more important to the very direct and immediate narrative that is going to happen soon. Like, what?
No, literally. Why—this starts off with, why is she in a cage? And it's like, oh well, she bit me.
Right.
And then it's like, we still have fucking Silas out in the loose somewhere that we don't know of.
Right. Ally: Who has the cure. I—
And they're like, so anyway, let's go to New Orleans and find out that, and find out about Haley who I fucking forgot about.
Yeah.
Why is she now critical to the narrative? What is going on? I'm—I'm gonna set this show on fire. Why the fuck are they doing abstinence-only education of like, if you have sex once, you're gonna get pregnant and die.
And like, listen, this is CW-ing to a very extreme level this episode, for sure.
No, exactly, exactly.
But like, that made me laugh so hard because everyone—yeah, like everyone in that conversation is like, how the fuck did that happen? Like, what do you mean? Like, how does that even work, right?
It was so—it's like, what do you mean you got her pregnant? Not just like, what do you mean biologically?
Yeah. Cody: Right?
'Cause Klaus was like, what the fuck do you mean?
Yeah. It's like, that shouldn't have happened for a multitude of reasons. One, 'cause I didn't give a fuck about Haley and everyone knows you only get pregnant 'cause you care, right?
Right. It only happens when people love each other.
Yeah.
Um, that's what I was taught a thousand years ago. But second of all, I can't—that doesn't—I can't get pregnant. And it's like, no Klaus, we know you can't get pregnant.
It's not you. He's like, I got nothing down there. I don't know what—how this happened.
I'm a Ken doll.
Yeah, I'm smooth.
He's like, no Klaus, the vampire side of you can't. The werewolf side of you can, question mark?
And like, be so fucking for real. That's the line of logic we're working on here? Are you kidding me?
I just—we're doing—we're doing a Punnett square? Really? The witches are doing a Punnett square?
Yeah, it's like your recessive traits of you being technically part werewolf does give you the ability to get someone pregnant. Like, what are you talking about? What do you mean?
I've never—I've never felt more betrayed in my life than the fact that they took Elijah—Elijah who you all know I would kill for—
Yeah.
And they made—they made him be Rose this episode.
Yes, totally.
It's like, the baby.
Yeah.
The baby Klaus. Think about the baby, think about our family.
God.
The legacy.
Elijah.
And Klaus is like, get the fuck off me. I don't give a fuck.
Elijah's exhibiting such like child of divorce energy right now 'cause he's like, what if I parent trap the situation to get my family back together?
No, literally.
And like maybe we'll all realize that we're better together than apart and I know we have issues and stuff. And it's like, Elijah, honey, sweetie, poopsy baby, I love you, but this is insane.
Elijah, your eldest sibling energy is coming out right now.
Yeah.
Um, you are doing the thing that a lot of couples do. Babies don't fix things.
Yeah, actually. Right. And what if you can't fix all of your family's centuries-long traumas by yourself? You know? What if that's not on your shoulders, all the sibling?
But he's gonna try. Yeah, he's gonna try his damndest. He's gonna die trying.
Like logistically, what is this baby? Is it gonna be Antichrist?
Antichrist.
It's gonna—well yes, certainly, it's gonna be the Antichrist, absolutely. But like, does it come out like baby but also has the ability to be werewolf or is it—is it wolf? I'm gonna really listen.
I mean if we're gonna—if, listen, if Sophie is gonna pull out the fucking Punnett square here—
Yeah, for sure.
Haley is all werewolf.
Yes.
Klaus is 50/50.
Uh-huh. Sure.
So if I remember my ninth grade biology, then, uh, that's—that's a lot of werewolf.
It's a lot of wolf, for sure. Very wolf forward.
This is so—Haley, what do you mean?
Like this is—listen, this show makes a lot of silly choices that I don't agree with on many levels. This is just fucking so dumb. This is—what are you doing? What are we doing here? What do you mean? What do you mean?
I don't understand. I will say for a back door pilot, I was hooked. Like I was intrigued for a lot of this episode.
Sure. Listen.
It was hard for me to divorce the fact that I was like, everything is blowing up in Mystic Falls right now.
Yeah, literally. It's like we need some boots on the ground at home, right? Like I'm glad you're having your little New Orleans vacation out here. However, what the fuck is wrong with you? But I will say I agree. Like the—I can see how they're setting up something that could be very interesting on its own merits, an own show. Like how this started with Marcel fucking singing out there. You kidding me?
Oh my god.
Like, and that's fun, right? It felt very—obviously a much worse version, but it felt like in line with a sort of Interview with the Vampire Southern, like, you know, Jets and Sharks kind of situation of like, I run this town, this is my city. Obviously it's a much poorer version of that. But like I can—I see the vision, right? Like I understand that that's—like he's an interesting character. Like the idea of, you know, witchcraft being like not really allowed, but there's like, you know,
there's a sort of like—yes, right? And there's this sort of like tenseness of relationships and like two spiritualness and magic and stuff, which I think is interesting, right?
What's in the kitchen.
But like I think we have other things given the short amount of time we have left to kind of—yeah, Marcel, do you know you have 30 minutes for every creature from hell comes back? Right.
Like all this is really cool and sick, but like none of this is gonna matter when the gates of hell are opened, which will happen because none of these people are doing jack shit about Silas. Right. But they were trying to give this vibe of Klaus being passive.
Yeah.
And waiting for his shot. And I'm like, what the fuck is this guy?
Yeah. I've never seen this Klaus before.
Yeah, Mr. has never not taken the opportunity to take his shot at power and fame and success.
Exactly.
What do you mean he's like meek sad boy? And then the whole conversation with—what is her name, Camille?—that sort of like retcon thing of being like, first of all, very like trying to make her like the manic pixie dream girl of like, what if people had feelings, right? What if the bartender?
Yeah.
Yeah, and then being like, you know, every artist has a story. It's like, okay, Wattpad, let's go. All right. And being like, wow, look at this guy. He's painting, but he's also like so mad. He's angry, but he's also hurt and he's scared. He's a scared little boy, but he's also a big strong bad guy. And it's like, what the fuck are we doing here? What are we doing here?
It's just—Klaus, of course you're going to find a blonde who's interested in a tortured painter. There's one thing he's going to do. Get it together. Find a blonde who teaches him to maybe think about having emotions, maybe.
God. Speaking of which, him calling and leaving a voicemail for Caroline, which should have been a text.
Oh my god. Yeah, this all could have been an email.
Literally. It could have been a text to himself. But he leaves that voicemail for Caroline, which is 20 seconds max. And he's like, hey, sup, Caroline. I'm in this random place. I'm doing all this cool shit. I thought you should know. K bye. What are you doing?
He's so unserious 'cause he's like is trying to be like nice for—I mean, not nice, but like for lack of a better word is trying to be making him seem like he cares about her, right? 'Cause he's like, man, I'm fucking rocking it out here. I'm in my favorite place in the world. I'm doing awesome stunts and cool things. But I can't help but wonder and help but think about how I'd rather you be here with me doing this cool shit
or like seeing me at my prime. And it's like, okay, what the fuck? She's got tests to study for. You know what I mean? Like she's got—she's like, can we stop? What is going on?
It was so vague. I don't understand what's going on. And obviously, there's a part of it that Klaus is obviously crashing out because who wouldn't when you find out that this woman that he said an episode ago was just a one night stand. It's like, what do you mean that there's a fetus in there?
Right.
And I can hear the heartbeat when it was literally like two weeks ago, right?
Yeah.
And sure, I'll go with the Breaking Dawn science that like this fetus is adapting and like growing more rapidly.
Sure, sure, sure.
But this happened two seconds ago. So what are you talking about that there's a heartbeat already? The way they did that with the fucking vampire hearing of like the intense heartbeat was so fucking nasty. It's like, whoa, what if this is a person? It's like, oh my god, what the fuck is this? This is so bananas.
One thing I'll say about the vampires and just in general, the creatures in New Orleans, they have that hearing on.
Yeah, for sure.
All of them have that turned on unlike Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum in Mystic Falls.
Right.
Because we saw it with Marcel and his lackeys.
Mhm.
We saw it with Sophie and Jane Anne who are witches, but they've, you know, they got the Heebie Jeebies and hanging out too, which I appreciated.
Yeah. So we can at least say that for them as well. One thing I noticed in Marcel's first scene that really just set the tone—and I love New Orleans. They've had a couple of episodes there and I've appreciated it. But one, Marcel was very hot. Loved that.
Yeah, totally.
They panned really quickly to some of the people in the bar when he was singing. And I saw a bar patron with sea foam pants. And that—I was like, oh, I'm in it. We're in 2013. I feel so safe here.
Right. Yeah.
I'm so grateful for this time period and where we're at right now.
Yeah.
And it made me very happy just to know that Marcel is dragging people around the French Quarter who probably have like circle infinity scarves.
Yes.
And that's great. That's what it's all about.
He is very intriguing to me.
Yeah.
Being a mentee of—which, first of all, never thought Klaus would have mentees.
Yeah.
The idea of an evil or at least very morally gray vampire in this show who is Black—
Yeah.
—is very important to me.
Mhm.
And that he—there was that moment when he was talking about Jane Anne, which she didn't need to die that way. That was pretty nasty, Marcel.
Yeah.
But he studied law and he was like, I know you're lying. You know you're lying. You know I know you're lying.
Right. Who's flying the plane?
Exactly. It was such a—his people skills are very intriguing to me and I want to see more of that character.
Yeah. I also thought several times that him and Klaus were going to kill each other or kiss and I was like, hmm, okay. I'm open to it. Would like to see more of it. Tell me more about this interaction between the two of you.
Yeah. I don't know about this dude. It feels very weird to me to be like, you've lived in New Orleans this long and you are intentionally keeping magic out of it. Because if there's one thing I know about New Orleans, having never been there—
Mhm.
—I know that it is a very spiritually strong space.
Oh, yeah.
Why would you not let people, like specifically the witches there, practice magic? Why would you stop that?
Right. Other than you're just a power hungry person.
Yeah. Feels—I mean, feels like a lot of the writers on this show being like, so fuck magic, I guess. I guess it just doesn't happen here. The most—arguably the most haunted and spiritual based place in the continental United States in terms of like witchcraft specifically. But okay, sure. Yeah, guess we won't have any consequences there for these witches.
Yeah. I felt very bad for Sophie almost every scene. She had tears in her eyes, which has got to be rough.
Yeah. God.
Yeah. Which is wild that I felt more for her this episode than I did for Haley.
Yeah, right?
And I knew next to nothing about Sophie. So that sucks, but oh well. Rip, girl.
Rip, girl.
I am curious to know your thoughts because I found this character very distracting. One of Marcel's lackeys with the page boy hat on.
Oh my god. The fucking newsies who almost died.
Yeah, the newsies.
The way so much of this is like oddly like West Side Story set up in a way. Like it's so like—I'm not anti it, but I felt like there were many points where I'm like, are they going to start singing? Like what is—but also like dancing, fight dancing, you know?
That's going on here.
And they really could have.
They could have and I would have enjoyed it. Listen, if we're already doing like essentially a, you know, not a filler episode, but like not not a filler episode, you know, as far as the main plot is concerned. We have two episodes until the finale. If this isn't a filler episode, I don't know what the hell.
Yeah, true. Right. Yeah, so let's get some—I'm appreciative of how much singing there was already, but we could have done a full musical episode. Cowards, okay? But yeah, he was very distracting for sure. This whole crew of Marcel's—Marcel's crew. It was just a lot.
One of—I will say because there were a lot more extras this episode than usual.
Yeah.
But sometimes when we have stuff in like the city, like the main city part of Mystic Falls, we have more extras. But this—Marcel has a lot of folks around him.
Yeah.
One—there was another extra that I really appreciated. It was near the end of the episode when Klaus kind of comes in right before he kills that fucking newsie.
Yeah.
And Marcel like raises his glass and he's like, the party never ends. Or no, Marcel just says the party never ends. There's an extra in the back of that scene who raises their glass. And I was like, you didn't need to do that. I know no one asked you to do that and I love you for it.
Yeah.
Because that's so real and I appreciate you.
Yeah. Got a real party animal out here and I appreciate that.
I'm very intrigued by what Klaus—what his whole plan is now of like, okay, so I'm going to save New Orleans. I'm going to infiltrate this and take it down from the inside to help Sophie.
Yeah.
Kill Marcel and then what? And then what? You have two seconds before Silas brings everyone back. Klaus, get it together.
Right. Like I—to some extent, I'm like, okay, I can see what you're trying to do here. But again, this is incredibly side quest material that kind of is not really urgent right now. Like you have thousands of years potentially to fuck over Marcel, right? Like that's fine. He's going to just do what he's doing for thousands of years in New Orleans. What is not, you know, on as Lucy Goosey of a timeline is Silas. And why are we just pretending that's not a huge fucking problem?
No, I agree. I think that he is—fucking over Marcel at this point is like step 10 on your list right now, Klaus.
Yeah. Right. Ally: Why are we focused on this? Like, let's—priorities, baby. Like, I—listen, I get it. I understand. You can still do that. But if you do this and then somehow that just fucks over the very immediate timeline that we are currently facing, then you did it for nothing. You did it for nothing.
I agree. Well, that's going on. I agree. And that's why I was very confused by Rebecca.
Yeah.
Not that she doesn't want to go to New Orleans, because I—I get it. You don't need to do what your brothers want you to do. But she was like, I'm going to stay in Mystic Falls and live my life.
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
Mhm. Ally: Why is no one focused on scary guy? Yeah.
Where are priorities?
Like, do you think he just like booped away and it's like, all right, I'm not going to be a problem to you guys anymore. Don't worry about it. It's like he's been actively fucking with you guys for the last several weeks, right? Like this is—yeah. It doesn't seem like he's going anywhere. And I'm a little nervous.
What happens if Haley gives birth and it's Silas? What are you going to do, Klaus?
Right, right.
You know he can make hallucinations happen. Then what?
What are you going to do? What the fuck is going on? I just—God.
Why is no one planning anything? You're stressing me out.
Yeah.
I don't—I don't get it. I—I don't blame Rebecca though of like, y'all can go make trouble there as much as you want, but you can't force me to go.
So—right. Like, irredeemable on all fronts, you know? Like, he can go fuck around and do whatever his fucking side quest is. We don't have to do that. Like, no. We can just live our lives, you know? Who gives a fuck what Klaus is doing?
It was so sad too because Elijah was like, I know that you want to be human and be able to grow old and have a family, but I'm offering you that right now. She's like, um, you're not though.
Yeah. Right.
You're offering me maybe a nephew, a niece.
Yeah.
I don't—I don't want to be part of that. Klaus is weird. He's like, yeah. Come on.
Yeah, come on.
I don't want to drive there by myself. Come on.
Uh.
I feel for him. I get you, Elijah, but you can't make fetch happen. I'm sorry.
Yeah. There's also a part of me that—how random this all feels is, you know, because at the end of last episode, Katherine like writes that note or whatever. It's like, hey bitch, Klaus. Like, you want to—you want a shot at this and like seems like she's just leading him on a wild goose chase.
Oh, 100%.
Because maybe she doesn't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Like it just feels like there's nothing of urgency in this outside of Katherine just being like, hey, you want to fuck some shit up? And he's like, bet, okay. It's like, okay.
Yeah, if he's been doing this for a hundred plus years, why now?
Yeah. Right. Well, the timing seems wildly inconvenient given the urgency and immediacy of everything else going on. So, I don't know, maybe Katherine's just trying to fuck shit up. Whatever. But otherwise this doesn't make any fucking sense.
I agree. I think that her line this episode about being lonely and hating it—
Mhm. Ally: —with Elijah was sad. Yeah.
It was also sad that Elijah said goodbye to her.
Mhm.
Because why? Why are we doing that, Elijah? I don't like it when you give forehead kisses.
Yeah.
Because it's never good when you do that.
Why are we breaking up our finest lavender marriages? It's unfair.
Right. I don't know that that needs to be broken up other than the fact that I know Katherine can't be around Klaus.
Right. Ally: Yeah. But I mean, it doesn't mean that she still can't be in New Orleans and wreaking havoc there. Right. Yeah. True things can be true.
So I felt—I felt for her. It made me sad. I'm—I'm still unsure of how these episodes are supposed to be watched.
Mhm. Ally: Like I know on the TVD Wiki, it says that both of the next ones are supposed to be airing simultaneously. Mhm.
What I'm concerned about though, regarding the actual plot of this television show is Elena at the end of this episode saying to Tweedle D and Tweedle Dumb about let's see who breaks first.
Oh my god.
I—I don't have high hopes for that. And I'm not concerned about her.
No, no. Historically has been very hard to break, right?
Correct.
Meanwhile, both Damon and Stefan, very susceptible.
No, they're just like, oh, well, we'll just put her in here and— and hope for the best. Like maybe when she gets hungry, that'll be an emotion.
And I guess they're kind of operating on the same logic of like when Stefan was Ripper mode or whatever and like he was all tied up for a while and then Elena was like, hey, you have feelings, right? And it's like, okay, we're back. Which like, sure, but also no offense, but Stefan's mind is a little, uh, easier to crack.
He's got a cross tattoo on his arm for God's sake.
Yeah. He's always somewhat connected to his emotions even when he isn't, right? Elena's like fucking stone cold Steve Austin right now. There's like—there's nothing coming in and out of there. And if you're in a stalemate contest with Elena on the dark side, I don't think you're winning that.
No. No.
She's outwitting, she's outlasting, she's outplaying, you know?
She's there. No, for real, Jeff should be scared of her. Because right before Stefan went dark side, his brother didn't die and he didn't set his house on fire. So I think we're in different starting modes.
Right. Yeah. For sure. Absolutely. Uh, no. God, these fools. Make me so mad.
No, I think that we've always known that the emotional tenacity between Stefan and Elena is—uh, there's no contest between the two of them.
Yeah. But I'm—I am concerned because looking at the photo from next week of "She's Come Undone" is not great.
Yeah. But she—here's what I'll say. The photo of Nina in this does look remarkably like what Katherine looked like this last episode.
That is true. Yeah.
So which one is it? You know what I mean? I mean, I would assume Elena, but who's to say, you know?
Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
Uh, I think that she would—I think she would make some heart eyes at Marcel.
Yeah.
Like we all.
I can see that.
I would very much—I would spray a water bottle at her because I don't want her near any influential men right now. She just needs to be with her friends. And Marcel has a way with words. She needs to stay away from that after Shane. Um, but I think she would fit in with some of the great witches we saw this episode.
Wow.
Friends, tell your friends about the show.
Yes.
Tell your family about the show. Uh, tell your ice cream truck about the show.
Yes.
Who knows. Most importantly, uh, I'm going to finally try out Poker Face after getting all those advertisements about it.
Hell yeah. I'm going to get a freaking neck fan.
Dude.
I'm influenced.
Uh, and as we say here in the Pacific Northwest, get bit. Ooh. Ow.
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