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EP 423: My Sweet Vampire Lavender Marriage

May 26, 202549 minSeason 7Ep. 84
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And we're back! This week, Cody gushes over the needledrops in Overcompensating, Ally celebrates another year around the sun, Kristen Stewart debuts a new tattoo, and the girls get in Katherines turf in The Vampire Diaries!

Next week: The Vampire Diaries S4:E19

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Now tuning into Earbud Media... [Intro Music] Ally: I don't know why, but right now the BuzzFeed  article that we have is showing me the biggest advertisement for just Jason Mantzoukas's face.  It's not promoting anything. It's just his face.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

And I don't know how  to feel about this right now.

Cody

Just wanna, you know,  just to remember, you know.

Ally

Just to let me know and be aware.

Cody

Yeah, he's still around, you  know. He's still a guy. He's here.

Ally

I don't know how this happened, but  I am acutely aware of the fact that Jason Mantzoukas is allergic to eggs.  I don't know when that happened.

Cody

Sure.

Ally

But like when I think  of him, I know that about him.

Cody

Yeah. Well, that is a fun fact.

Ally

I can't tell you what I had for breakfast  yesterday, but I do know that he is allergic to eggs. And that is an unfortunate part of how  brains work. Welcome into the toilet. Hello.

Cody

Hey, we're here.

Ally

We're all here. We're here. We  are alive. We persist. How are you?

Cody

I'm here. I'm living.

Ally

Okay.

Cody

Yeah. I wanna bring — I'm  bringing a show to the space, okay? We're doing a little cheeky little show.

Ally

I'm really excited about this.

Cody

And it's called Overcompensating. And I've seen.. listen, I've seen people  dogging on this on twitter.com.

Ally

Oh.

Cody

People have been taking some clips  out of context. People have been and yes, are all these people like in their  thirties playing college students? Yes. Fucking it's fine, right? It's fine, okay?

Ally

Well, that's the whole thing.

Cody

I know, exactly. That's what I'm saying.  And I was like, okay, but let me watch though 'cause I know people who have watched it. A  friend recommended it to us and I was like, let's fucking do this, baby. And it's  fucking funny. It's a good fucking show. So I'm here. I'm here to defend. I'm  here to honor, to prop up a fun gay show.

Ally

Okay.

Cody

Because we need more  of these in these times.

Ally

Hell yeah

Cody

It's fucking funny. It's — I don't know the  creator guy. I guess he's like a TikTok dude or whatever. He's — he seems fine. I don't know his  content though. But he wrote and created this. It's very like pseudo autobiographical about  being like gay in college, but also being like very like straight passing, you know, and being  like, what if I just made my life easier and did like frat stuff and sports stuff, but also like I  gotta figure out my shit, you know, kind of stuff.

Ally

Oh yeah.

Cody

Which is fun. It's a  fun concept. And this whole cast is just like many like alt comedy legends.

Ally

Yeah.

Cody

Most notably, Caleb is also in it very  briefly. We love that. He's wonderful. Um, but my dog, my road dog, Holmes, previously on A Happy  Thing, I think Welcome to Flatch and also other things, also frequent guest on podcasts that I  like to listen to and frequent just funny person.

And the work that they do in this show, the line  deliveries that come out of their mouth is so beautiful to me, so special to me, 'cause they're  very much playing like very straight like girls girl, but like in a way that is so diabolical  and so like your first roommate in college kind of vibe that you're like, what is happening?  What is going on here? And I'm obsessed with it.

Ally

This sounds good. I don't know why people are hating. They must just be  hating to hate, which is rude.

Cody

Yeah. Yeah, I think mostly it's  because there is a brief Charlie XCX cameo in it. And people have  taken that to be like, oh, she's not a good actress and she has  all these projects lined up, right?

Ally

Oh.

Cody

But also very contextually  in this, she is playing herself. She is Charlie XCX in the show and it's just  like a very over, you know, very uh boisterous version of herself. So I'm like, this is  just not the critique you think it is.

Ally

Oh, okay. Now, I am looking at  the IMDB page for this and you are burying the lead that Connie Britton is in this.

Cody

Oh my God.... Okay, yes. Connie  Britton and Kyle MacLachlan are the main guy's parents in the show and they're first  of all, inspired parent casting, by the way. Like if I made a show about myself, absolutely  that's what I'm doing. Come on now. Absolutely.

Ally

Yeah, no, I would do  that too. Are you kidding?

Cody

Are you kidding? Yeah, it's incredible.  Um, so they are in it somewhat briefly, but there is a Thanksgiving episode in  which they are there much longer and that is it's so beautiful. They're  so good. I'm obsessed with them.

Ally

Wow.

Cody

But it's just very funny. The  writing is very good. It's very like, you know, not a typical queer  coming of age kind of story, but still familiar in beats and very much  about also like friendship and figuring your shit out and who you wanna be when you're in  college, you know? It's fun. It's a fun time.

Ally

I have only heard  good things about this show, but I have not looked for it on  twitter.com. So that might be why.

Cody

Yeah. And that's fair. That's fair. Yeah.

Ally

I am excited about this. I — if I was  making a show, why would you… especially if it was in college, I would also put Charlie  XCX in it right now. Are you kidding?

Cody

Yeah. Come on. And she also did like all  the music for the show too. So it's like there are very good needle drops in here. There's a  vroom vroom needle drop in which they're like on a golf cart. It's great. I had a great time with  it. I think it's very cute. I really hope there's another season of it because the way it ends, I  would like to see more of what happens here, okay?

Ally

Okay.

Cody

I wanna see more. I'm hooked.

Ally

Okay. All right.

Cody

This is my truth.

Ally

I love that.

Cody

Um, yeah. How are you doing,  birthday girl? What the fuck's up?

Ally

Uh, I'm here. I'm a year older than  I was last week. A we're recording this, I turn… I had my birthday  yesterday, which was great.

Cody

What the fuck's up, girl?

Ally

Um, my happy thing this week is I ordered  myself birthday cake from… I had a gift card, okay? Everyone shut up. I had a gift  card to a place called Goldbelly, which I had never heard of  before I received this gift card.

Cody

Oh.

Ally

And so I needed to figure out how to use  it. And this site has food from all different places. And I was like, well, I should probably  use it for something for my birthday. And the problem was a lot of the birthday cakes that  were offered on there were like whole cakes.

Cody

Sure.

Ally

Which is nice, right? But storing that  is awful. Yeah. And I was trying to figure out I was like, well, of course I could get it  and then I could do it. I could manage to like cut it and then put it in the freezer and save  it for later. Or I could find something where it's already done. That would be ideal. But and  this is not fuck, I wish this was sponsored. It's not. I just honestly had a fucking gift  card for this place and I wanted to use it.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

But apparently there's I  was searching on Goldbelly and they had cakes from fucking Duff. They  had Martha Stewart. They had Ina Garten, all these things. But here's the thing, okay?  They were all fancy, right? They were like, here's, you know, do you want a coconut  firework cake? And I was like, literally no.

Cody

Hello.

Ally

Sure. They were like, do you want a  cake with a house inside? And I was like, no, I just literally want — I just want a confetti cake. I just want something that I  could get at the store downstairs.

Cody

Sure.

Ally

Uh, you know, like I down the street, but  I wanna use this gift card so I don't have to pay for it. TLDR, I ordered from this shop  called Daisy Cakes. Okay. I think it's in uh Missouri, maybe. Okay. And I'd literally  never heard of it before because why would I have?... And they all came in their own  little containers, so I could keep them in the freezer and when I wanted a single serving  of cake, I could keep it and I could take it out.

Cody

Oh, yes.

Ally

Which was just so much more  convenient than ordering a whole ass cake.

Cody

And then you get a bunch of little cakes.

Ally

Exactly. No, exactly, right? And so I tried  it yesterday for the first time. It was delicious. That's the dream. That's the dream. It was  sweet, but not like makes your teeth hurt sweet.

Cody

Sure.

Ally

And it was exactly what I wanted. Um,  they had a mix and match and I was like, no, I just literally want all I want all of them  to be birthday cake. Please and thank you.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Um, I don't wanna try the other  flavors 'cause I'm… that's just who I am. But they were great. Um, and so I  left them a nice review and I was like, these are perfect. Thank you. But this is  just a shout out to Goldbelly 'cause y'all have a wild assortment of shit that  I've literally never heard of before.

Cody

Sure.

Ally

Um, so love that gift card. And then also  Daisy Cakes, that was great. Appreciate it. We'll probably order from there again when  I don't have a gift card, which is nice.

Cody

Hell yeah. Wow.

Ally

I just love a single serving. It's just  the exact amount of cake that I want. Yeah.

Cody

That's genius. That is it's such  a good strat and like because, you know, cake is great, but it can be overwhelming.  You're like, do I have to store it? Do I have to … am I just … are these just gonna sit in my  freezer until I feel bad and then just throw them away 'cause it's been too long, you know? 'Cause  there's just so much cake. You can't eat it all.

Ally

Well, 'cause here's the thing, right?  If I order a cake, right? That could serve, I don't know, all of the ones I was  looking at say they serve like four to six.

Cody

Right.

Ally

If I just get that  and I keep it in the fridge, then obviously I'm just gonna  eat the goddamn cake, right?

Cody

Right. Right.

Ally

It's gonna be a fucking Matilda  situation. I'm gonna eat the cake and I'm gonna get a stomach ache. Yeah. And I  don't wanna do that to myself, right? In the moment it'll feel great, but then I'm gonna  have a stomach ache and who caused it? Me.

Cody

Right. It's all my fault.

Ally

It's nobody's fault but mine, right? So  I could do that and then potentially waste it 'cause then it's dried out or Sure. I can  take two seconds and think ahead and just, you know, keep them in the freezer  and they'll be fine and then just take them out when I want a cake,  just a little serving of cake.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Fucking genius. I love  it when these bakeries they're living in the year 3000, you know what I mean?

Cody

Yeah, the innovation is wild.

Ally

The innovation is just it's just a  single serving cake. Single serve cakes.

Cody

Yeah, for sure. That's  huge. That's a huge development.

Ally

Oh my God, speaking of developments, um, can we talk about we have a  little bit more Cannes news.

Cody

Oh, let's go.

Ally

We've got tattoo news. Could you  tell the class about this tattoo news?

Cody

This tattoo. We do have  tattoo news. First of all, slight uh K-Stew fashion corner 'cause we did  spend a lot of last week kind of ripping uh what she was wearing to shreds a little  bit. Um, but she's got a cute outfit in this one. It's nice. It's like a little suit moment.  She looks like she's, you know, in like a fancy

Ally

Yeah, feels like very Heathers.  Like she's gonna play croquet, but also like in a sporty cool way.

Cody

She's got a cool hat.

Ally

Yeah. Cody: I love it. Um, but folks have noticed that she's got a tattoo above her  knee that says mine. Hello. Hello. She does.

Cody

And it's cute. And it's cute.

Ally

It is.

Cody

I love listen, I love lesbians  and their just very outward stampings of their loves in their life very  visibly.... I think it's very great.

Ally

I agree. Um, Leyla Mohammed, thank you for  this piece uh on on BuzzFeed. I appreciate it. Um, for one for that and then also these great photos  of Kristen. Mhm. Here's the thing. This photo of Kristen's tattoo does not make me jump to the  conclusion that Layla does, which is, hey, does this have any connection to Guilty as Sin  from Taylor Swift? Mhm. But sure. Sure. Yeah.

Cody

I can see how you got here. Yeah.

Ally

Let's debunk where this is from.  'Cause it's her knee and not her upper thigh, 'cause why would we see someone's upper  thigh walking the Cannes red carpet? But no, it's from — it's from a scene  in the Chronology of Water.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

So of course this new tattoo would be coming out and premiering itself during the  premiere of the Chronology of Water.

Cody

And sick of just being like, you  know, mine also in a sense of like my wife, right? But also like this is my  fucking debut. This is my time, baby, you know? And like paying homage in  multiple ways and I think that's cool as fuck.

Ally

Right. Yeah, it could mean what  it the actual context from the movie.

Cody

Right.

Ally

And it can also mean a lot  of different things. It's a word.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

It's art. It's about  marriage. That's kind of how tattoos work, folks. They have a lot  of different meanings, which is great.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Yeah. Uh, I think it's great.  Uh, I love it a lot. This fit has my stamp of approval. It's much better  from last week, which I appreciate.

Cody

Yeah. She looks great.

Ally

No complaints. I'm so over not  being allowed to use my ad blocker on Vampire Diaries Wiki. Yes, of course  I want you to get ads and support.

Cody

Yeah. Ally: But also this place is. Yeah. You gotta turn that on reader mode,  baby, 'cause it's otherwise that site is unusable.

Ally

It's terrifying without it. Um, when we were  here last week, we got some amazing content of our girl Elena and Rebecca living their truth in New  York, Bonnie and Clyde-ing it out of the city.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Damon left.

Cody

Just queening out together.

Ally

Next week's episode. Exactly, exactly.  I am so curious to know how you feel about this week's episode.

Cody

Uh, listen, we got our  girl Katherine back in the biz.

Ally

Yes. Cody: And I — I love the interactions of New Elena TM plus Katherine plus also  Rebecca because this is a girl squad. Plus Katherine’s three wigs.

Cody

Yes. Right. Exactly. And I think if  they all just like worked it out on the remix, they could be really powerful  together, you know what I mean?

Ally

Oh.

Cody

But I understand. They have different  motivations and that's okay and they are at odds with each other and I understand that. But it  just — it makes me sad because I love seeing them.

Ally

There is kissing and fight  each other all the time. I love it. There is a sick amount of tension  between Rebecca and Katherine this episode.

Cody

Yeah. And we thought there was tension  between Elena and Rebecca and there is. Don't get me wrong. It still exists this episode  'cause Elena's fucking tired of Rebecca's bullshit this episode, which is funny. Yes.  It's not usually that way. It's usually the other way around. But Rebecca and Catherine  and the stabbing this episode. Hello. And the grabbing in diner booths. Hello.  Folks. I can't. I'm physically unwell.

I love too that like, you know, they're on this  wild goose chase to find Catherine because they stole the, you know, letter of all the little  potential spots, right? And you know, they're on this road trip, whatever the fuck and Rebecca's  on business. Rebecca's like, hey, we gotta get to the next one 'cause I'm just like fucking over  this and we need to just figure this out and find her. Yeah. And Elena's like, yeah, yeah, for  sure, but also I'm hungies, so I'm gonna let

me just take a little pit stop, right? Right. And  now Catherine's whole gambit, which is very smart, by the way, is chilling out in Willoughby,  Pennsylvania or whatever. It's so good.

Ally

They say that name 16 times this episode.

Cody

Yeah.... You gotta … you gotta remember  it's Willoughby, okay? You gotta remember where you are. The tourism board is probably thrilled  of the representation of their fine city in this program. But like Catherine has all of these  like friends or whatever being like, hey girls, um, but is compelled they're all compelled  to be like close or whatever with Katherine,

but like not know who Catherine is when she's  talking to anyone but Katherine. And the way that works out of Elena talking to this woman and being  like thinking she's Katherine and being like, hey girl, I know you were gonna snap my neck  and sometimes you prefer that, but I told you I really liked it from my wrist, so is that okay  if we do that instead? Thank you. Please and thank you. And Rebecca's trying to be like, okay, what  do you know, bitch? And she's like, who are you?

Who is Catherine? Why are you talking to me?  It's so funny. Oh, it's so good. It's so good.

Ally

I appreciate it so much. I'm so smart.  Her mind. Because Katherine was so confident that no one would find her in this random  ass place. By the way, if you live in PA, can you tell me a little bit more context?  Were you watching this show when it happened? What was the hubbub around Willoughby?  What the fuck? Because everyone seems to know this place. Damon even got excited  about this town and I don't understand.

Cody

It's like, my dog, you were  just in New York City. Why are you

Ally

Right.

Cody

Excited about Willoughby, Pennsylvania?

Ally

Okay. What the fuck is everyone talking  about this city? I've never heard of it in my entire life. Uh, I'm so confused. But okay,  maybe it's an East Coast thing. Katherine was so on it thinking no one will ever find her that  she never thought about the loophole of, hey, there's another person not even in this world  in a couple of miles, right? In a couple — in a drive's distance that has my face. Maybe I  should plan for that when I'm compelling people.

Cody

Right. Ally: But no, it doesn't matter. All I need to worry about is that someone  has the cure and it's not me. I have a decoy in my granny house and then I'm gonna get dicked down from  Elijah and that's all that matters.

Ally

I love her for that, first of all.  Second of all, when Elijah showed up.

Cody

Dude, dude.

Ally

I feel like if there had been a camera  on me when I was watching this episode, I would have turned into fucking  just anime red cheeks on my face.

Cody

Right. Ally: I was not expecting him to be there. I didn't even think about it being  initials instead of a nickname. Uh-huh.

Ally

I—in a good Zebo, I was ascending.

Cody

Yeah. I'm obsessed  with this lavender marriage.

Ally

No, literally.

Cody

They are just—they're here to queen  out together and I love that. You know what I mean? Because we said this about even  Elijah and Elena. Like, they vibe, you know, they just want to—they need to just queen out,  right? But I also am fine with it being not Elena in this moment because I think this is also  great. I think this is a fine supplement to that. I think it's beautiful and I like  seeing Elijah because he's my boy.

Ally

Here's the thing that is very  confusing to me as someone who has to, like, the Stardew Valley mines, has to engage with  AO3 every week. I have seen the Elena/Elijah tag before come up. And I've been very confused  about it because we have been very adamant that those two queen out together. They love to  gossip. And it has been very platonic and I have not understood why are y'all trying to force  something that's not here. It's just both of

them are very serious. Elijah just looks at people  like that. I don't get it. Why are you doing this?

Cody

Right.

Ally

And then you give this episode and  this motherfucker just smooches Elena.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

And I say, oh well, oh, well, maybe  that's why. Maybe that's why that tag exists, okay? Elena had the audacity to take  almost all of the accessories off of Katherine. She took her shoes, she  took her bracelets, almost all of it.

Cody

Yep. Ally: She took her jacket and she didn't think, oh hey, I have a daylight ring  that Elijah has seen before. Yeah.

Ally

And he's an original who's really smart.

Cody

Come on, girl. I  appreciate the attempt, but...

Ally

Yeah. Let's—let's be real. Okay.  She kissed back though, I'll say that.

Cody

Yeah. All right. She committed.

Ally

Interesting is what I will say.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Uh, he was so—he was like the Pikachu  shocked emoji this whole episode. And I—

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Poor Elijah.

Cody

No one is telling him jack shit, which  I—listen, I get it because he is a gossip, right? So maybe that it is in their best interest  to not tell him important information. But every scene he is in this episode, he is like  just blindsided fully by information.

Ally

It is so funny to watch him, who's supposed to be one of the most  powerful people in this universe, just be shocked at every possible opportunity.  Because what do you mean that you didn't know all this information? And also you didn't suspect  that Katherine was lying to you. My good guy.

Cody

Right. Mhm.

Ally

But all right, sure. Okay, Elijah.  All right. Love that for you and that you're just always in suits, but  bless your heart. I have to for the sake of myself not talk about Damon  and Stefan right now because these two—

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

—are just running in  circles this entire episode.

Cody

Um, Tweedledee and Tweedledum  over here. Jesus Christ...

Ally

Just cannot get—not even get ahead of  the game, but just on the pace of the game to save their lives. Um, what I really  appreciated this episode that we have not entirely seen before was Rebecca  going like full German Shepherd mode.

Cody

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Ally

And I enjoy this aspect  of her character a lot.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

It is more interesting to me than  her pretending to be rude. It is far more interesting to me than her wanting the  cure and being like a hopeless romantic.

Cody

Right.

Ally

I like it when she's just  rude to Katherine. I like that.

Cody

Right. It's really good.

Ally

I love that and I would  like more of it. I would love to know your thoughts on the  decoy cure in the fish tank.

Cody

Oh my gosh. This—listen,  what the fuck is going on here?

Ally

I don't—this house is confusing to me.

Cody

This is sick, nasty work because  what? What do you mean? And like, God, I felt—I was so like for a brief moment,  I—you know, I willed myself to believe, right? Of being like, maybe Rebecca  can get the ending she wants, right?

Ally

Yeah.

Cody

Maybe she won't get boned  by the narrative again, you know?

Ally

Wouldn't that be nice?

Cody

Or her family, which always fucks her  in the end, you know, in really hurtful ways. And just even the fact of her for like a  second being like, oh my God, I feel alive, you know? And that not being true because she's  still a fucking vampire and it didn't fucking work because really she just took like a  shot of her vein or whatever. Fuck. Fuck.

Ally

It was such nasty work.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

For that to happen. It made me very sad  because even though—even though I like Rebecca, I think it is more interesting for me to  watch her when she is fighting with Damon, when she is fighting with Katherine.  The character deserves—like she talks about with Elijah at the end, she deserves the  agency to choose and she wants to be a human.

Cody

Right.

Ally

So of course I want that for her. Um,  yeah. I don't know that it will necessarily be the most engaging thing if that  happens, but I want that for her.

Cody

Right. And even like, you know,  the conversation she has with Elijah, right? Of him being like, okay, if this is what  you think you want, like it might not be the, you know, cure-all that you think it's  going to be, right? It might, you know, sure it's a—it's a new start or whatever or it's  a do-over in a way, but like you'll still have the same problems internally with yourself  or with relationships with others that no

longer being a vampire will not necessarily  solve immediately. And she's like, got it, for sure. I know that and maybe it won't be great,  right? Maybe you'll still feel like shit or still like hate myself or whatever the fuck. But also, I  want the ability to make that decision for myself. And if it's a flop, it's a flop. Whatever, but  I did it, you know, rather than being this, you know, trapped in this against her will, you  know, for a long time. And it's like, fuck, dog.

Ally

It is—it sucks. I feel really  bad for her. Knowing how this show works and the way that they treat women,  I don't think that it's going to happen.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

So I'm trying not to put  all my bets on the table for it.

Cody

Right. Yeah...

Ally

But I do think that I would like something  good to happen to Rebecca. She does deserve that.

Cody

Yes, just once, you know, I—God.

Ally

Yeah. Yeah, it would be nice. Uh, I—I am  worried. I'm worried about Elijah and Katherine. I'm not—he seems a little bit more  skeptical by the end, thank goodness.

Cody

Mhm. Yeah.

Ally

I am surprised that he let himself  walk into that again, but I shouldn't be. Uh, this is Katherine's whole thing.  She's really good at manipulating men.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

But who's to say? Um, I—I keep  saying that the originals are really powerful and strong, but they uh,  they're pretty fallible actually.

Cody

Yeah, for sure.

Ally

Um, speaking of—I—Klaus  is going through it this week.

Cody

Dude, there's like a—I just—in the  background just like a torture chamber going on inside Klaus's mind that  is really like totally a big—a big shift from everything else that's going on here.

Ally

Because we are kind of having this like Tom  and Jerry-esque thing happening in Willoughby. Because it is serious, but I mean this is kind  of—I—I don't want to call it a filler episode because there are things that happen, but it  isn't as significant as the last few episodes that we've had where it's like snap necks and fate and  curses and shit like that, you know what I mean?

Cody

Sure, sure, sure.

Ally

So we have this, you know, this—this rock  and sockum happening over in Pennsylvania. And then cue back to Mystic Falls and Klaus  is just in a torture chamber in his minds.

Cody

Yeah. And the fact that like he's like,  you know, he's got this like white oak shit in him and he's fucking losing it. And Silas is  becoming like the manifestation of Caroline. Loved it. Loved it. As a delusion. Which  is bonkers. Um, and having this like back and forth and it could be anyone. It  could be any manifestation of any person, but like it keeps being Caroline is like  oof, ouch. Like, okay, okay, buddy. Jesus.

Ally

I—I loved that Silas  became Caroline the first time.

Cody

Mhm. Ally: And I loved that as an audience member, I was not sure if it was really  Caroline the second time. Right. Yeah, yeah. Because it's like  at this point, real Caroline, it's like, motherfucker, stop texting me. Stop leaving  me messages. I am on three prom committees right now. I have fucking work to do. You are  annoying me, okay? Enough. And Klaus is like, fuck you, Silas. Don't fuck with my brain  again. Stop it. She's like, what are you

talking about? And like the fact that it's like  their banter kind of back and it's like, oh shit, this is like for real Caroline. Um, and her just  being fucking pissed at him because she's like, I'm booked and busy, dog. Like, I don't know  what the fuck's going on here in your mind of, you know, your mind place of horrors, but fucking  let me do my shit. Let me rock my shit, okay?

Ally

And that it—you—you know that it  is Caroline because she—she's like, well, I'll only help you if you call off hunting Tyler.  And he's like, no, fuck you, I'm not going to do that. And she's like, all right, fine. And then  just holds up on her phone. And he's like, well, I'll stay here until you decide that you're good.  And her just checking her phone casually while we think that this chip of the stake is like  moving closer and closer to his heart is wild.

Cody

Yep.

Ally

Hello. Uh, it—this is why I—this is far more  of a testament to these characters because again, they don't like each other. Caroline as far as  we can tell would rather Klaus holed up and die. I think it is also a testament to these  actors because they have chemistry here.

Cody

Mhm. Ally: But I enjoyed this scene. I liked it when she had the pliers  and was like, oh, you do have a heart. Yeah.

Ally

Uh, but it did not—She's so  good. Uh, because Caroline is great and she's amazing. I—it did not—none  of this felt romantic to me at all.

Cody

Yeah. No.

Ally

Uh, it—If anything, they  ended this interaction as very lukewarm—not even friends, like  just on the same side, right?

Cody

Yeah. You know, like not even like  truly there. Like obviously they're trying to make this feel a lot more resonant in  romantic ways. But again, I don't think we've had any real evidence to suggest that  is warranted more so than just being like, hey, can you stop like being mad at  my ex-boyfriend and trying to scour the entire country for him for the rest of  his eternal life. If we're good on that,

then I think we'll just be like fine. We could  just like shake hands, call it a day, you know?

Ally

It is—and Klaus is like, well,  you'll notice that like I haven't been chasing him around. And she's like,  that doesn't mean fuck all to me.

Cody

Right.

Ally

I know that you have people around  the world that could do that for you.

Cody

Yeah. And you change your mind about  everything every second of your life.

Ally

Exactly. Exactly. So like, you know,  could be one way today, next thing tomorrow, you know? It is uh, I agree. I don't know  that they're acquaintances. I don't think that they're friends. I think it is more so of  a like we're just not enemies at this moment.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

I think that—It's like  a temporary truce, you know? Exactly. Yes. Especially when Klaus  realizes, right, that like he wasn't dying. This was all just Silas giving him the pain and he  was like, this motherfucker. Uh, he's nasty. Um, this actor is unfortunately really good  at acting in pain. He's doing his teary eyed eyes a lot in this episode and that's  unfortunate because he's really good at that.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

So that's annoying. Um, it—the one  thing that I uh, is unfortunate because these actors do have chemistry and I—I remember  that we wanted to talk about this is that um, Candace, who plays Caroline, is now  engaged to Coach Ben from Yellowjackets.

Cody

That's…what a pairing.

Ally

A lot of apparently he—the actor  Stephen—is in The Originals. In what context I have no idea because The Originals  canonically does not start until season five.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

So confusion right now. Uh,  but I am hoping that we get to a point where there is no longer this  overt push towards Caroline and Klaus.

Cody

Yeah. That would make me feel better.

Ally

I would love that more than anything.

Cody

I would be—free me  from this. It would be nice.

Ally

The one thing I am curious about, because if canonically the show The  Originals does start in season five—

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

Y'all are going to need to tell  us how you want us to watch that. Cuz—

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Do we need to be  watching them at the same time?

Cody

Oh jeez.

Ally

I'm going to need some—question—y'all  are going to need to let us know because I'm afraid to investigate it online for spoilers.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

So please let us know. One of the  standout moments for me this episode was when Elijah told Rebecca that  she does not have a smart brother.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

Because the brothers this episode,  both sets, were not at their best as far as strengths go. One thing that I appreciated  was that Damon and Stefan finally, apparently, looked at each other and were like, hey, so we've  been making these same mistakes for 150 years.

Cody

Mhm. What if we didn't anymore?

Ally

It only took us four seasons.

Cody

Great thinking, bud.

Ally

Glad we got here. Oh,  you identified patterns, destructive patterns that  you guys were engaging in.

Cody

Yeah. Interesting. Wow.

Ally

Wow. It's not like we  clocked that four seasons ago.

Cody

Right. Episode one. I'm glad you—I'm  glad you got here, but like, jeez Louise, man.

Ally

It just—you know, they took the  whole day where they're following Elena and Rebecca's trail only to  be—not on their own accord, anyways. It's because of Liz that they  get the call that his car was ditched.

Cody

So it's not like they  were doing it proactive.

Ally

Also, like, the fact that—hey, they are  late to this, right? Because they lost them, right? Because they left without them.

Cody

And also, they show up at the bar whenever  acting like they fucking saved their asses, being like, oh, thank God we're here.  It's like, you haven't done shit. Like, this is—you just—you strolled  in like days late to this. Like, you're not—you're just here, you know?  You're adding more fuck shit to this.

Ally

It was wild to see them show up so late  into this. I will say I am proud of Damon, 'cause he is very much on the side now of Elena.

Cody

Mhm. Needs to get it together.

Ally

And apparently his come to Jesus moment was getting his neck snapped  to New York. So good on him.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

But I was—I was surprised when he  came in that he immediately clocked that that was Katherine in the diner and not Elena.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

So I fully expected—'cause you know  these two, everything goes over their head.

Cody

Right, they're not  the most perceptive people.

Ally

Right. So I fully expected him to see her  hair—even though it didn't have the red streak in it at the time—and be like,  oh well, that's Elena, of course. Uh, so good on him. Um, and Damon  is having a little bit of a tough time 'cause he does get his face,  like, full of vervain from Katherine.

Cody

Yeah. So not—not his best moment.

Ally

One of the—not a great day. Not—not as—yeah,  not his great day.Um, weirdly, one of the moments that stood out to me was Stefan trying to be  really intimidating with Elijah on the phone.

Cody

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Ally

This ego between the two of them, being like, you need to stand down. And  Elijah's like, you need to stand down...

Cody

It's like, okay. Y'all kiss or something.

Ally

No, for real. Hey Stefan, do you  remember when Elijah almost pulled your heart out? Like the first time that you met him?

Cody

Yeah. Why are you doing this?

Ally

Hello. Y'all need to—you're embarrassing.  It's—so this is not the game that you want to play right now. Um, no. It—it is frustrating to watch.  Um, I mean, I'm glad that they are realizing, like, hey, we do need to kind of get our shit  together, even though it's taken a long time.

Cody

Yeah, it's kind of a problem.

Ally

So we're on the same side now. Elena  needs to get it together. We're—it's us against her. We need to get her on the  same side. And they're like, yeah, totally.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

And then immediately fold in that diner.

Cody

Yeah. Y'all, what?

Ally

I don't understand.

Cody

Yeah. Like, what happened, y'all?

Ally

I thought we were aligned. You were literally the ripper. How  do you not see this coming?

Cody

Yeah. Right. Also, like, sidebar—when  that scene happens and it's like the waitress and it's like, you guys can stay  at anywhere or whatever. I, like, wasn't looking for like a second. Like, I  looked away for a second and I just heard the voice and I was like, she sounds  exactly like Gypsy Rose Blanchard.

Ally

No, exactly. Exactly.

Cody

And I was like, I mean, obviously  that's not the case 'cause she was not, um, you know, here for this. Uh, but I was  like, that's wild. Uh, so that really took me out of this for a moment. I had to, like,  go back to like, what the fuck was that? But like, Elena obviously is like, bitches, like, you're—you're never going to get the  cure in me. Like, you can do all you want, you pussies, but like, I'm going to be killing  people left and right, motherfucker. I'm full

of spite and anger and no emotions, baby. No  humanity, baby. Fuck with me. And it's like, y'all didn't think of this. This has been kind  of her attitude for a while. Just because y'all finally want to do it doesn't mean she has  changed her attitude on anything, you know?

Ally

Well, and also I just want to know what Damon and Stefan thought she  meant when she said consequences.

Cody

Yeah.

Ally

Did they think that she was  referring to when you're in fucking elementary school and they move  you from green to yellow on the behavior chart? What the fuck? Of  course she meant killing people.

Cody

Yeah. Like, what?

Ally

Hello. How is this surprising to any— No,  Stefan, she was going to change the Doomsday clock down. What the fuck? Y'all are so embarrassing.  I just—yeah, it was disturbing to see, obviously.

Cody

Sure.

Ally

Get it together.

Cody

Yeah, come on now.

Ally

I'm not okay with it,  but I—I would be shocked if the writers keep her having a loss  of humanity past the season finale.

Cody

Yeah. Right.

Ally

I'll say that.

Cody

Yeah. Something's got to give for sure.

Ally

You know what has to give is them showing  me dead Jeremy in the recaps each episode.

Cody

God. Enough.

Ally

I'm so—I'm so fucking over  it. You either give him to me back or you stop putting that because I can't  emotionally handle watching that and then not having Bonnie in an episode…  I don't—mhm. It feels rude to me.

Cody

Yeah. I agree.

Ally

I don't—I also say the only other  thing that I didn't—I have in my notes that we have not talked about. The most  surprising thing to me was the fact that when we got to see Katherine's  phone, she types in lowercase.

Cody

Yeah. Huge. Love that.

Ally

What's that about?

Cody

She's a casual girly, you know?

Ally

That was incredibly surprising  and I was not expecting that.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

I just assumed because she's been around  for so long that she was old-fashioned and formal.

Cody

Sure. Ally: But maybe she's just really tapped in. Yeah.

Ally

And the opposite. So who's  to say? You know what I mean?

Cody

Mhm. We never know.

Ally

I am very excited,  scared, nervous about next week.

Cody

Yeah, all of the feelings.

Ally

Uh, because it is the—it's  the titular prom episode.

Cody

Oh gosh.

Ally

And y'all know what they love  to do about big events on this show.

Cody

Right, things famously go  really well and according to plan.

Ally

Yeah. We never just have a really  good filler episode on a big prom.

Cody

Caroline just can't enjoy her  handywork for one episode and be like, I did a good job and I did  a great event, you know?

Ally

God. Yeah. She never gets to enjoy an event  she did where no one dies. And so I'm scared.

Cody

Right, yeah. Not feeling  great about that streak, you know?

Ally

She looks great though in this photo.

Cody

Yeah. It's a great dress.

Ally

I'm scared to see it covered in blood or whatever's going to happen.  Um, but I'm—I'm nervous. Uh, if this goes the way it usually does of 22  episodes, we're almost there. Next week is 19.

Cody

Yeah. So I'm—I'm—it's  not looking good, folks.

Ally

I'm scared. Uh, maybe—maybe  Silas will win prom queen.

Cody

Yeah, hey.

Ally

Uh, fingers crossed, you know what I  mean? Uh, we have some amazing patrons to thank. Would you like to start us off?

Cody

Absolutely. Thank you to Grake Lautner.

Ally

Ooh, thank you to April Dobrev.

Cody

Oh, thank you to Sean Salvatore.

Ally

Ooh, thank you to Megan Pattinson.

Cody

Oh, thank you to Katya Karp.

Ally

Ooh, thank you to Genevieve Morgan.

Cody

Oh, thank you to Danielle Burke.

Ally

Ooh, thank you to Janae Bennett.

Cody

Oh, thank you to Sophia Sallinger.

Ally

Ooh, thank you to Dan Zeklos.

Cody

Oh, thank you to Emily Ozera.

Ally

Ooh. And last but certainly not  least, thank you to Jaylene Ivishkov.

Cody

Pew pew pew.

Ally

So I have a fan fiction for you.  This was written by the author Tara—oh no. Tarapsina is how I'm going to pronounce  that. Uh, it is titled Initials. This is a one-shot fan fiction. It has 2,000 words  and I wish I could read it all for you.

Cody

Mhm.

Ally

Um, because all of it is  really good. Instead of doing that, I'm going to read the summary for  you. Um, but I—I would recommend if this intrigues y'all to go to go read  it and go give Tarapsina some love.

Cody

Oh yeah.

Ally

Here's the summary. It was the amusement  that tipped Rebecca off. The way that underneath the offended anger, Katherine was just about  singing, I know something you don't know, all saccharine pleasure and victory. Rebecca  furrowed her brows. Give me that, she said, nicking the phone out of Elena's hand and staring  at the two-letter word they'd taken for a nickname just minutes ago. Hey, Elena snapped with barely  detectable annoyance. Rebecca kept staring down

at the screen, ignoring the questioning eyes  of both doppelgangers. Meet him stared back at her. She cursed under her breath. Not a  nickname at all, was it? Or American Gothic, but Elena never gets a chance to pretend to be  Katherine. Not that this means there won't be a moment for her and Elijah to share. The  sky is still blue after all. End scene.

Cody

Damn.

Ally

So there was—uh, apparently this has—it  falls under the tag of both Elena and Elijah and also Elena and Rebecca. So if that is  of interest to you, Tarapsina has got you for a quick one-shot. Um, posted fairly  recently, just a couple of months ago.

Cody

Thank you to our AO3 warriors.

Ally

We appreciate you always.

Cody

Love that.

Ally

Uh, friends, I have a new television show  that I'm going to go watch this week. Especially 'cause when this comes out it's a holiday.  So y'all know what I'm going to be doing.

Cody

True.

Ally

Tell your friends about the show.  Tell your family about the show. Join us on Patreon. We have an exciting  bonus that will be coming out for you.

Cody

Yes.

Ally

And as we say here in the Pacific Northwest…

Cody

Get bit.

Ally

Ooh. Ow. Ooh.

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