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Into Africa

CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studieswww.csis.org
Fearless music activists. Savvy tech entrepreneurs. Social disrupters. Into Africa shatters narratives that dominate U.S. perceptions of Africa. With the world’s youngest population, the decisions made across Africa today—good or bad—will shape the world’s future. Featuring in-depth interviews, the CSIS Africa Program sits down with policymakers, journalists, academics, and other trailblazers in African affairs to shine a spotlight on the people and stories shaping cultural, political, and economic trends across the continent today and for decades to come.
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Episodes

AFRICOM and the Triple Nexus

Mvemba is joined by Ambassador Andrew Young, Deputy to the Commander for Civil-Military Engagement of U.S. Africa Command. They discuss the three dimensions of the department’s engagement in the region (defense, diplomacy, and development) over the past 14 years and unpack future goals of the strategic operation partnership.

Nov 11, 202238 min

A Conversation with DR Congo’s Minister of Finance

Mvemba is joined by Mr. Nicolas Kazadi, Minister of Finance of the Democratic Republic of Congo. They discuss the Millennium Challenge Corporation, tackling corruption in the mining industry and the public sector, conflict in eastern DRC, and the auction of oil blocks and climate pledges.

Oct 27, 202235 min

Forecasting African Futures

Mvemba is joined by Jakkie Cilliers, Head of African Futures & Innovation at the Institute for Security Studies, a South African think-tank. Jakkie and Mvemba discuss Africa’s potential growth in different global scenarios, the African Continental Free Trade Area, and challenges to intra-continental trade.

Oct 13, 202232 min

H.E. Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, President of Somalia

Mvemba is joined by His Excellency Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, President of the Federal Republic of Somalia. The newly elected President came into office for the second time in May 2022 promising a more inclusive government and greater stability. They discuss the challenges his government faces, including countering Al-Shabaab, food scarcity during one of the worst droughts in decades, and a rising cost of living. This episode is a recording from a live event with President Mohamud, held at CSIS on S...

Sep 29, 202252 min

Survey: Why Turkey Is So Popular in the DRC, And More

Mvemba is joined by Joshua Walker, Director of Programs at the Congo Research Group and Francesca Bomboko, Co-Founder and Director of BERCI, a public opinion research firm based in the Democratic Republic of Congo. They unpack the results of CIC and BERCI's new national survey in the DRC. They analyze voter trends, the factors impacting President's Felix Tshisekedi's approval ratings, addressing the gap between civilians and their elected officials, the growth of Turkey as a key and popular play...

Sep 15, 202245 min

Building A Political Career in Kenya

Mvemba is joined by Josphat Kamanya, a Kenyan politician and entrepreneur. Josphat reflects on his run for local government, shares insights into the experiences of young and aspiring politicians, and explores the nature of politics in Kenya.

Sep 01, 202232 min

Addressing Forced Migration in the Horn

This week, Mvemba is joined by Mohammed Abdiker, Regional Director for East Africa and the Horn of Africa at the International Organization for Migration. The two delve into migration trends in countries across the Horn, and the economic, political, and environmental factors that continue to exacerbate forced displacement in the region. They unpack various initiatives and conferences aimed at addressing migration trends, both regional and international, and highlight their pitfalls and opportuni...

Aug 18, 202234 min

Using Digital Tools To Increase Food Resiliency in East Africa

In this episode, Mvemba is joined by Caitlin Welsh, the Director of the Global Food Security Program at CSIS, and Melodine Jeptoo, Researcher and Coordinator at PlantVillage. PlantVillage non-profit research unit that uses AI technology, satellite systems, and field work to increase the yield and profits for millions of farmers in East Africa. They discuss the drivers of food insecurity in the region and explore how technology can be leveraged to build resilient food systems in East Africa....

Aug 04, 202235 min

Gold, Gas, and Good Governance

This week’s episode, Dr. Zainab Usman joins Mvemba to discuss her new book, "Economic Diversification in Nigeria: The Politics of Building a Post-oil Economy." They re-examine the concept of the resource curse and explore the role of good governance and institutions in wielding natural resources for sustainable and equitable growth.

Jul 21, 202232 min

Sahel Pressure on Littoral States

In this edition of Into Africa, Mvemba is joined by Karana Olivier, Côte d'Ivoire Chief of Party for Equal Access International, to discuss the spillover of violent extremism from the Sahel into the littoral states of West Africa— Côte d'Ivoire, Benin, Togo, and Ghana. The two explore government and armed groups’ shared responsibility for unrest, as well as the effects of porous borders in the region, state fragility, and illicit transnational trade.

Jul 07, 202230 min

Africa Outlook: What To Watch in the Second Half of 2022

In this episode, Mvemba is joined by W. Gyude Moore (Center for Global Development) to explore challenges and opportunities for African countries in the latter half of 2022. They have a wide-ranging conversation covering instability in the Sahel, the strength of regional economic communities, bolstering food security on the continent, Russian influence, and more.

Jun 23, 202239 min

Evan Mawarire on #ThisFlag and the Fight for Democracy in Zimbabwe

In this edition of Into Africa, Mvemba is joined by Evan Mawarire, a Zimbabwean pastor, activist, and the founder of the #ThisFlag protest movement. They explore the popularity of #ThisFlag in Zimbabwe and youth movements in Africa. Plus, they discuss corruption, poor governance, and the upcoming elections in Zimbabwe. This episode is dedicated to the memory of the late Alex Tawanda Magaisa.

Jun 09, 202239 min

The Digital Future of African Development

What role does Africa's private sector play in the continent's inclusive growth? Cina Lawson, Minister of Digital Economy and Transformation in Togo, and Lucy Nshuti Mbabazi, Head of Africa Advocacy and Partnerships at The Better Than Cash Alliance, join Mvemba to discuss the rise of digital payments in Africa's spurred by COVID-19 restrictions. This episode explores the opportunities presented by the pandemic, the role of individual financial services, and how to drive the narrative away from a...

May 26, 202242 min

Tony Elumelu and Why “Africapitalism” Works

Mvemba is joined by African investor and philanthropist Tony Elumelu to discuss the Tony Elumelu Foundation’s work in empowering youth entrepreneurs across the continent. They talk about the philosophy of Africapitalism, how African governments can build robust enabling environments, and the importance of eradicating dependency syndrome.

May 12, 202230 min

Shea Butter, Women’s Empowerment, and Fair Trade

Rahama Wright, founder of social enterprise Shea Yeleen, speaks with Mvemba about all things entrepreneurship. They discuss Rahama’s journey from Peace Corps volunteer in Mali to the founder of a growing beauty company that sources key ingredients from the African continent. Rahama describes her philosophy around empowering both shea-producing African women and U.S.-based workers, and sheds light on her identity as a member of the African diaspora.

Apr 28, 202237 min

Public Institutions are the Backbone of Democracy

Ken Opalo (Georgetown) joins Mvemba to discuss the strength of public institutions across Africa. How do parliaments, courts, executive offices, and militaries impact the quality of governance? Ken and Mvemba focus on Malawi, Kenya, and Benin with implications for the rest of the region. Plus, Ken’s thoughts on localization of development funding and how U.S. policymakers should think different around enabling environments when it comes to foreign direct investment.

Apr 14, 202234 min

Adulting in Monrovia: Returning Home from the Diaspora

In this episode, Mvemba is joined by Amini Kajunju, Chief Operating Officer of the Ellen Johnson Sirleaf Presidential Center for Women and Development (EJS) in Monrovia, Liberia. They discuss diaspora, identity, and ESJ’s work in education, training, and human development. Plus, what the hashtag #AdultingInLiberia means to Amini in the context of the country’s post-war development.

Mar 31, 202236 min

Intractable Instability, French Failure, and Russia’s Role in the Sahel

Mvemba is joined by Nathaniel Powell (@natkpowell) to discuss instability in the Sahel. In addition to covering some of the conflict’s history, Mvemba and Nathaniel talk about why France failed in Mali, how the United States can be a better partner to Sahelian countries, and how the Russia-Ukraine war is affecting the Sahel and Africa at large. Why France Failed in Mali, by Nathaniel Powell (War on the Rocks) - https://warontherocks.com/2022/02/why-france-failed-in-mali/...

Mar 17, 202230 min

Beyond the Paved Road

Mvemba is joined by Travis Adkins (U.S. African Development Foundation) for a conversation that spans a number of topics, including how Travis’ personal background has informed his professional trajectory; how Travis is taking the USADF from “the best kept secret” to one of the best foreign assistance agencies in the U.S. foreign policy toolkit; and how the USADF is directly funding African partners in 21 countries across the continent.

Mar 03, 202229 min

Ubuntu: I Am Because We Are

Mvemba Phezo Dizolele is joined by author Chidiogo Akunyili-Parr to discuss Ubuntu, the African concept of humanity, meaning “I am because we are.” They discuss Akunyili’s recent book, I Am Because We Are: An African Mother's Fight for the Soul of a Nation , which tells the story of her late mother Dora Akunyili who committed her life to fighting fraudulent drug manufacturing as the Director General of Nigeria's National Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control. They also discuss corr...

Feb 17, 202224 min

Unearthing Africa's Role in Modernity

This is the first episode of the Into Africa podcast with new host Mvemba Phezo Dizolele, who joined the CSIS Africa Program as director and senior fellow in December 2021. Mvemba speaks with author Howard French about his newest book, Born in Blackness . They discuss French’s research process, the outsized role that São Tomé played in the modernity of the Western world, and how plantations—or, more accurately, prison labor camps—were the most important economic innovation of the modern age prio...

Feb 03, 202223 min

Thinking Differently About Africa

In Judd Devermont’s last episode as host, he is joined by Nnedi Okorafor (author), Patrick Gathara (journalist and cartoonist), and David Pilling (Financial Times) to discuss why and how the world should think differently about Africa.

Sep 30, 202140 min

An African Strategy Toward China

What might an African strategy toward China look like, and what are implications for loans, debt management, African exports, and people-to-people flows? Judd Devermont is joined by Hannah Ryder (Development Reimagined), Cliff Mboya (China Africa Project), and Casey Schmidt (VoxCroft Analytics) to discuss African agency and policy formation toward Beijing. They also talk about Zambia’s opposition leader-turned-President Hakainde Hichilema, as well as Kenya’s faltering Building Bridges Initiative...

Sep 16, 202137 min

Restitution

What is the history of stolen African artefacts—such as the Benin Bronzes—and what can be done to rectify these wrongs? Judd Devermont is joined by Ciraj Rassool (University of Western Cape), Charlotte Ashamu (Yale University), and Barnaby Phillips (author of Loot: Britain and the Benin Bronzes ), to discuss if restitution is enough, and why the growth of the museum industry in Africa is so critical. Plus, they discuss anti-government riots in South Africa and the #FixtheCountry movement in Ghan...

Sep 02, 202144 min

Africa’s Literary Scene

African creatives are using online literary magazines to publish their work directly to the web—resulting in more visibility, wider audiences, and richer conversation. Judd Devermont is joined by Abdi Latif Dahir (New York Times), Ambassador Makila James, and content creator Derick Matsengarwodzi to discuss this trend. Guests also cover the unilateral ceasefire in Tigray and pro-democracy protests in eSwatini. eSwatini with Cebelihle Mbuyisa - Cebelihle Mbuyisa, Judd Devermont, Nicole Wilett The...

Aug 19, 202134 min

China, the U.S., and African Security Chiefs

Judd Devermont is joined by Paul Nantulya (Africa Center for Strategic Studies), ret. Vice Admiral Michael Franken (AFRICOM), and Bonny Lin (Center for Strategic and International Studies) to discuss U.S. and Chinese government engagement with African security chiefs. Guests also cover the deployment of Rwandan and SADC troops in Mozambique and Burundian politics. Background Readings: Personal Ties: Measuring Chinese and U.S. Engagement with African Security Chiefs – Judd Devermont, Marielle Har...

Aug 05, 202140 min

Franchising Terrorism

Judd Devermont is joined by Anouar Boukhars (African Center for Strategic Studies), Jason Warner (United States Military Academy in West Point), and Emily Estelle (American Enterprise Institute) to discuss the dangers of overemphasizing or underselling the ties between regional groups and global Jihadi networks. Guests also cover French President Macron's decision to draw down Operation Barkhane in the Sahel and the ADF's links to the Islamic state in Eastern Congo. Background Readings: A Course...

Jul 22, 202144 minSeason 3Ep. 68

49 Trailer

Introducing 49, CSIS Africa Program's newest podcast, about the past, present, and future of U.S. policy toward sub-Saharan Africa. Hosts Judd Devermont, director of CSIS's Africa Program, and Nicole Wilett, Chief of Staff at the Open Society Foundations, discuss past U.S. successes and failures; offer policy recommendations for the Biden Administration; and share the best of the region's music, movies, food, and culture. One country at a time. The first episodes drop on Thursday, 15 July 2021....

Jul 13, 20212 min

The Dos and Don'ts of U.S. Strategies Toward Sub-Saharan Africa

What does a consequential U.S. strategy towards sub-Saharan Africa look like? Judd Devermont is joined by Zainab Usman (Carnegie Endowment for International Peace), Nicole Wilett (Open Society Foundation), and former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Chester Crocker (Georgetown University), to discuss a focused and pragmatic U.S. approach to the region. Guests also cover Angolan President Joao Lourenco’s leadership and the standoff between Twitter and the Nigerian government. Back...

Jul 08, 202145 min

Presidential Offspring

Several African leaders are setting the stage to hand over power to their sons. Judd Devermont is joined by Brett Carter (University of Southern California), Regina Sondo (Journalist), and Paul Melly (Africa Program at Chatham House) to discuss the implications of familial succession across sub-Saharan African. Guests also cover Republic of Congo President Denis Sassou Nguesso's latest contested election win and the worsening Anglophone crisis in Cameroon. Background Readings: Biden’s Diplomats ...

Jun 24, 202142 min
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