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Intelligence Squared is the home of lively debate and deep-dive discussion. Follow Intelligence Squared wherever you get your podcasts and enjoy four regular episodes per week taking you to the heart of the issues that matter in the company of the world’s great minds. We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be. Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us @intelligence2.  And if you’d like to support our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations, as well as ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content, early access and much more, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared today. Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more.
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John and Paul: A Beatles Love Story in Songs (Part Two)

In 1957 John Lennon and Paul McCartney were two ordinary teenagers who met in suburban Liverpool and decided to play rock and roll together. Twenty-three years later that friendship came to a tragic end when Lennon was murdered. But those 23 years changed the world. Lennon and McCartney became global stars, created a body of work that has never been matched in popular music, and arguably had more influence on our culture than any other figures in the past century. InMarch 2025 writer Ian Leslie ...

Apr 03, 202535 minSeason 1Ep. 3191

John and Paul: A Beatles Love Story in Songs (Part One)

In 1957 John Lennon and Paul McCartney were two ordinary teenagers who met in suburban Liverpool and decided to play rock and roll together. Twenty-three years later that friendship came to a tragic end when Lennon was murdered. But those 23 years changed the world. Lennon and McCartney became global stars, created a body of work that has never been matched in popular music, and arguably had more influence on our culture than any other figures in the past century. InMarch 2025 writer Ian Leslie ...

Apr 01, 202534 minSeason 1Ep. 3190

Revisiting Wages for Housework, with Emily Callaci

Unpaid domestic labor has long been the invisible backbone of economies worldwide - but what if it were compensated? In this episode, historian Emily Callaci takes us inside the Wages for Housework movement, a bold and controversial campaign that emerged in the 1970s. Drawing on her new book, Wages for Housework: The Story of a Movement, an Idea, a Promise , Callaci tells the story of this campaign by exploring the lives and ideas of its key creators, tracing their wildly creative political visi...

Mar 30, 202540 minSeason 1Ep. 3189

Six Kings and the Making of the English State, with Caroline Burt and Richard Partington

Between 1199 and 1399, English politics was high drama. These two centuries witnessed savage political blood-letting - including civil war, deposition, the murder of kings and the ruthless execution of rebel lords - as well as international warfare, devastating national pandemic, economic crisis and the first major peasant uprising in English history. In today’s episode, historians Caroline Burt and Richard Partington discuss the six Plantagenet kings who ruled during these two centuries, and th...

Mar 30, 202551 minSeason 1Ep. 3188

LinkedIn Founder Reid Hoffman on What Could Go Right with Our AI Future (Part Two)

Reid Hoffman is one of the world’s most influential and successful entrepreneurs. The co-founder of LinkedIn, Manas AI, Inflection AI and part of the original team at PayPal, he has built companies that have shaped the internet and AI revolutions of the twenty-first century. As part of Reid’s staunch commitment to Democracy, he was a supporter of Kamala Harris in the 2024 US election. In March 2025, Hoffman returned to the Intelligence Squared stage to discuss how AI is rapidly changing our worl...

Mar 28, 202535 minSeason 1Ep. 3187

LinkedIn Founder Reid Hoffman on What Could Go Right with Our AI Future (Part One)

Reid Hoffman is one of the world’s most influential and successful entrepreneurs. The co-founder of LinkedIn, Manas AI, Inflection AI and part of the original team at PayPal, he has built companies that have shaped the internet and AI revolutions of the twenty-first century. As part of Reid’s staunch commitment to Democracy, he was a supporter of Kamala Harris in the 2024 US election. In March 2025, Hoffman returned to the Intelligence Squared stage to discuss how AI is rapidly changing our worl...

Mar 26, 202534 minSeason 1Ep. 3186

The Rise of Spotify, with Liz Pelly

Music has become increasingly playlisted, personalized, and autoplayed. But how did we get here, and what does it mean for artists, listeners, and the music industry as a whole? In today’s episode, journalist Liz Pelly unpacks the origins of Spotify, its meteoric rise, and its transformative impact on the way we create and experience music. Whilst researching for her new book, Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist, Pelly conducted over one hundred interviews wit...

Mar 24, 202542 minSeason 1Ep. 3185

Kavita Puri and Sathnam Sanghera on War, Empire and the Untold Story of the Bengal Famine (Part Two)

The Bengal Famine is the forgotten story of the Second World War. Between 1943 and 1944, at least three million Indians, all of whom were British subjects, died from starvation or diseases linked to malnutrition. It is one of the darkest chapters in colonial history, yet the memory of those millions who perished is not broadly nurtured in Britain, India or Bangladesh. There is no memorial, museum, or archive dedicated to them anywhere in the world – not even a plaque. Who better to shed light on...

Mar 23, 202541 minSeason 1Ep. 3184

Kavita Puri and Sathnam Sanghera on War, Empire and the Untold Story of the Bengal Famine (Part One)

The Bengal Famine is the forgotten story of the Second World War. Between 1943 and 1944, at least three million Indians, all of whom were British subjects, died from starvation or diseases linked to malnutrition. It is one of the darkest chapters in colonial history, yet the memory of those millions who perished is not broadly nurtured in Britain, India or Bangladesh. There is no memorial, museum, or archive dedicated to them anywhere in the world – not even a plaque. Who better to shed light on...

Mar 21, 202537 minSeason 1Ep. 3183

Earthling Ed: How to Argue with a Meat Eater (Part Two)

Ed Winters , known to his millions of online followers as Earthling Ed , has perfected the art of persuasion. During his extensive career as an activist and educator, he has made the case for veganism everywhere from university campuses to live on GB News. His compelling and informative content has garnered millions of views, and earned him a dedicated following across online platforms. Earthling Ed joined us live at the Kiln Theatre to share his insights on how we can all become better conversa...

Mar 19, 202531 minSeason 1Ep. 3182

Earthling Ed: How to Argue with a Meat Eater (Part One)

Ed Winters , known to his millions of online followers as Earthling Ed , has perfected the art of persuasion. During his extensive career as an activist and educator, he has made the case for veganism everywhere from university campuses to live on GB News. His compelling and informative content has garnered millions of views, and earned him a dedicated following across online platforms. Earthling Ed joined us live at the Kiln Theatre to share his insights on how we can all become better conversa...

Mar 17, 202530 minSeason 1Ep. 3181

The Age of the Strongman: Understanding Putin, with Catherine Belton (Part Two)

This event was part of our Age of the Strongman series. Click here to see the other events in the series: https://www.intelligencesquared.com/the-age-of-the-strongman/. ---- War in Ukraine. Interference in democratic elections. The sponsorship of extremist politics to destabilise Europe. In recent years, Vladimir Putin has waged a relentless campaign to expand his influence beyond Russia’s borders and to undermine Western democracy. But how did he come to have such control over Russia – and what...

Mar 16, 202534 minSeason 1Ep. 3180

The Age of the Strongman: Understanding Putin, with Catherine Belton (Part One)

This event was part of our Age of the Strongman series. Click here to see the other events in the series: https://www.intelligencesquared.com/the-age-of-the-strongman/. ---- War in Ukraine. Interference in democratic elections. The sponsorship of extremist politics to destabilise Europe. In recent years, Vladimir Putin has waged a relentless campaign to expand his influence beyond Russia’s borders and to undermine Western democracy. But how did he come to have such control over Russia – and what...

Mar 14, 202535 minSeason 1Ep. 3179

George the Poet on Music, Memory, and the War on Blackness Art & Culture (Part Two)

George Mpanga, known as George the Poet , is seen by many as one of the UK’s most compelling voices in poetry, music, and social commentary. Originally hailing from St Raphael’s Estate in Neasden, Mpanga has spent over a decade working at the intersection of art and politics reflecting on his upbringing to shed light on how race and inequality still shape Britain today. His debut poetry collection in 2015, Search Party, tackled the north-south divide, the housing crisis and critiqued government ...

Mar 12, 202526 minSeason 1Ep. 3178

George the Poet on Music, Memory, and the War on Blackness (Part One)

George Mpanga, known as George the Poet , is seen by many as one of the UK’s most compelling voices in poetry, music, and social commentary. Originally hailing from St Raphael’s Estate in Neasden, Mpanga has spent over a decade working at the intersection of art and politics reflecting on his upbringing to shed light on how race and inequality still shape Britain today. His debut poetry collection in 2015, Search Party, tackled the north-south divide, the housing crisis and critiqued government ...

Mar 10, 202526 minSeason 1Ep. 3176

Classic Debate: There is Nothing Wrong With Rearing and Killing Animals for Human Consumption

This event took place on the 31st of October 2016 at the Royal Institution in London. CHAIR: Afua Hirsch - Writer and broadcaster SPEAKERS FOR THE MOTION: AA Gill - The Sunday Times’s star restaurant and TV critic AGAINST THE MOTION: George Monbiot - Guardian columnist, environmental campaigner and author of Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet Fancy a nice juicy steak? Most of us do from time to time, and we don’t trouble our consciences too much with the rights and wrongs ...

Mar 09, 20251 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 3175

Douglas Stuart on Shuggie Bain, Storytelling, and the Human Condition (Part Two)

This event is part of Conversations at the Kiln, a new event series at Kiln Theatre programmed by Intelligence Squared. For more events with speakers from the worlds of literature, art, poetry and politics, click here. Douglas Stuart, Booker Prize-winning author of Shuggie Bain and Young Mungo, is celebrated globally for his heartbreaking, funny and moving depictions of working-class life, identity and resilience. Born and raised in Glasgow, Stuart’s fiction draws heavily from his own experience...

Mar 07, 202533 minSeason 1Ep. 3174

Douglas Stuart on Shuggie Bain, Storytelling, and the Human Condition (Part One)

This event is part of Conversations at the Kiln, a new event series at Kiln Theatre programmed by Intelligence Squared. For more events with speakers from the worlds of literature, art, poetry and politics, click here. Douglas Stuart, Booker Prize-winning author of Shuggie Bain and Young Mungo, is celebrated globally for his heartbreaking, funny and moving depictions of working-class life, identity and resilience. Born and raised in Glasgow, Stuart’s fiction draws heavily from his own experience...

Mar 05, 202537 minSeason 1Ep. 3173

Sam McAlister on Scandals, Scoops, and the Prince Andrew Interview (Part Two)

Sam McAlister is the woman who secured the now infamous Newsnight interview with Prince Andrew, when he claimed to Emily Maitlis that he was in a Pizza Express in Woking on the night Virginia Giuffre alleges he slept with her. This was the broadcast which set public opinion alight, and from which many have supposed the royal family will never quite recover. In February 2025 , McAlister joined us on stage to discuss the behind the scenes drama of the Prince Andrew interview, the making of the fil...

Mar 03, 202526 minSeason 1Ep. 3167

Sam McAlister on Scandals, Scoops, and the Prince Andrew Interview (Part One)

Sam McAlister is the woman who secured the now infamous Newsnight interview with Prince Andrew, when he claimed to Emily Maitlis that he was in a Pizza Express in Woking on the night Virginia Giuffre alleges he slept with her. This was the broadcast which set public opinion alight, and from which many have supposed the royal family will never quite recover. In February 2025 , McAlister joined us on stage to discuss the behind the scenes drama of the Prince Andrew interview, the making of the fil...

Mar 02, 202525 minSeason 1Ep. 3169

Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 2)

On February 24, veteran BBC journalist, former North America editor and presenter Justin Webb came to Intelligence Squared to discuss what we all need to know about the new Trump world order. Webb analysed the first month of Trump's new administration to explain how from trade to conflict, Trump is abandoning international systems and creating a new global order based around personal relationships and dealmaking. He discussed what Trump's return means for Europe, the UK and what his changes in U...

Feb 28, 202536 minSeason 1Ep. 3168

Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 1)

On February 24, veteran BBC journalist, former North America editor and presenter Justin Webb came to Intelligence Squared to discuss what we all need to know about the new Trump world order. Webb analysed the first month of Trump's new administration to explain how from trade to conflict, Trump is abandoning international systems and creating a new global order based around personal relationships and dealmaking. He discussed what Trump's return means for Europe, the UK and what his changes in U...

Feb 26, 202536 minSeason 1Ep. 3167

Classic Debate: Rembrandt vs Vermeer - The Titans of Dutch Painting

Rembrandt van Rijn is the best known of all the Dutch masters. His range was vast, from landscapes to portraits to Biblical scenes; he revolutionised every medium he handled, from oil paintings to etchings and drawings. His vision encompassed every element of life – the sleeping lion; the pissing baby; the lacerated soles of the returned prodigal son. Making the case for him in this debate was Simon Schama . For him Rembrandt is humanity unedited: rough, raw, violent, manic, vain, greedy and man...

Feb 24, 20251 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 3166

Chokepoints: Economic Warfare in the Modern World, with Edward Fishman

In this episode, we’re joined by Edward Fishman, one of the foremost experts on economic statecraft and sanctions. With a career spanning roles at the U.S. State Department, the Pentagon, and the Treasury Department, Fishman has been at the forefront of America’s strategic response to global challenges. He now works as a professor at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs and as a senior research scholar at the Center on Global Energy Policy. His writing on global polic...

Feb 23, 202543 minSeason 1Ep. 3165

Nicholas Carr on How Technologies of Communication Tear Us Apart

‘We live today in a perpetual superbloom – not of flowers but of messages’ –- Nicholas Carr In this episode we explore the hidden costs of constant connection with American journalist and writer Nicholas Carr. Best known for his New York Times bestselling book The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains , Carr discusses his latest book Superbloom: How Technologies of Connection Tear Us Apart . In conversation with writer and researcher Adam McCauley, Carr shows us how platforms such a...

Feb 21, 202544 minSeason 1Ep. 3164

Classic Debate: Parenting Doesn’t Matter (Or Not As Much As You Think)

For today's Classic Debate we're revisiting our 2018 debate "Parenting Doesn’t Matter (Or Not As Much As You Think)". We were joined by Professor of Behavioural Genetics Robert Plomin, the Developmental Clinical Psychologist Susan Pawlby, therapist, parenting counsellor and broadcaster Ann Pleshette Murphy, and Stuart Ritchie, lecturer in social genetics and developmental psychiatry and author of Science Fictions. Hosting the debate was Doctor and broadcaster, Dr Xand van Tulleken. ------- If yo...

Feb 19, 20251 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 3163

Humans: A Monstrous History

What is a monster? Why do humans create stories about otherness? What does it tell you about a society that engages in monster making? Our guest today is Surekha Davies. Writer and historian, who has written a book about these questions, Humans: A Monstrous History. Davies was joined in conversation by Sophie McBain, associate editor of The New Statesman to discuss the topic. ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared...

Feb 17, 202536 minSeason 1Ep. 3162

Jonathan Sumption on the Challenges of Democracy

Is democracy in crisis? British judge and historian Jonathan Sumption thinks so and in this episode he explains why. Drawing from the themes of his latest book The Challenges of Democracy: and the Rule of Law, he explores the enduring struggles and conflicts within democratic societies today — and how we might overcome them. Joining him in conversation is historian of ideas Sophie Scott-Brown. ------- If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all...

Feb 16, 202542 minSeason 1Ep. 3161

The Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook with Martin Wolf (Part 2)

2025 is set to be a seismic year for the global economy. Donald Trump will return to the White House with an ‘America First’ agenda that threatens to dismantle global trade. Wars in Ukraine and Gaza could continue to escalate and cause turmoil in diplomacy. And the race to develop AI will accelerate as China and the US battle it out for technological supremacy. Who better to make sense of these unsettling and fast-changing times than Martin Wolf, Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Time...

Feb 14, 202532 minSeason 1Ep. 3160

The Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook with Martin Wolf (Part 1)

2025 is set to be a seismic year for the global economy. Donald Trump will return to the White House with an ‘America First’ agenda that threatens to dismantle global trade. Wars in Ukraine and Gaza could continue to escalate and cause turmoil in diplomacy. And the race to develop AI will accelerate as China and the US battle it out for technological supremacy. Who better to make sense of these unsettling and fast-changing times than Martin Wolf, Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Time...

Feb 12, 202539 minSeason 1Ep. 3159
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