Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side.
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Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, br in, earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
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Hello, my witchy. It is the best way to start. How are you.
I'm great, how are you?
Well? Everybody needs to know the snort and the giggling starting out. The whole show is if you guys, remember I don't know how many shows ago, but Brenda did our countdown and she did a slight like magic poof kind of hand movement for like the countdown to one, And so I just did that without either one of us expecting it. My body was operating without me involved body memory. So anyway, how are you, my witchy poo?
I am trying to keep warm, still and still chilly here.
Well, here's I have to tell you my dog, because you know I love my dog and more than virtually anything. And she's been doing some funny, crazy shit lately. So it's been really cold here too, so we have We've had a lot of snow, you know, freezing temperatures, and sometimes you get snow that falls, but it's only like thirty whatever degree, so it looks like it's this wet. So I'll open the door to go take Suki out for a walk, like to her potty walk, and she'll look,
she'll turn around and go upstairs. My dog has never once anytime I've opened the door. She always goes. But in the last week she has been retreating and yeah, mother, can we go to Palm Springs? I think that's what's going on in her head.
You let me know when March comes by.
But she's never done that. It's hilarious to watch her.
Sicky knife could be great roommates.
Yeah, well, you're going to clean each other's body up though, so have fun, both of us. I'm at least trying to keep it outside.
All right. So today we've had an all request insiders insight from the one and only Cop Suey.
Cop Sewet, cop Sewet. So y'all know that cop Suey is my niece, that is my age through marriage. And she's also so a student slash fan of the WITCHI pooh. And so she she lives the life though, and I have to and I think I've probably said this many times because we've talked about Cops Sue quite a bit or Sue, and she really lives the life, like she's really looking, she's.
Doing it, she's doing the work. Yeah she's Yeah, she's and she's not afraid to ask questions. I love that.
No, So just y'all know, if we're not related to you, that's okay. You can still ask as many questions as Sue. He does, so just like you know, hit us up on Instagram, but like we're all in for the questions. Okay. So her first question, though, I have to say, and even though we're not related by blood, I kind of think we might be related by spirit because this is a question I would ask.
You sell sisters.
Yeah, we're soul sisters for sure. But so she was she called me or I called her whereever it went, doesn't matter, and she was Okay, I have a question. I go, what's that? She goes, if we so call live these many lives? She's like, what if there's no planet for us to come back to? I said, let me get back to you. I'm gonna ask Brinda.
Nice, nice, nice.
Another snort, two snorts.
Already, So such an honest question, right as we're facing some pretty intense climate situations.
Well and human warlike, yeah, well there's that we have nuclear weapons, you.
Know, misbehaving humans. Yes, so if there is no Earth, well then that means that we get other possibilities presented to us, right first of all, like.
Living in a black hole or neptune or as everybody would expect me to say, right now, uranus exactly.
That would be disappointed if that doesn't come out of your lab. Hope everyone's happy about that. So this is the situation. There are the phrase from the Bible that gets translated as my father's mansion has many rooms or something like that. Right, it's so someone will correct it, correct me in instagram. I WoT with the exact phrases, but it translates basically as that it literally is the
many frequencies, the many availabilities in the spirit world. So when we drop the body and in the vernacular of the Bible, go to heaven. There are many many frequencies that we where we reside, so it can be you know, you'll have access to many of your loved ones by a love connection, so you'll have access to visit them, see them, interact with them. But that doesn't mean that's where the frequency in which you will reside. Right, So we will go to work on different things, to study
different things, to help cosmic efforts of something else. If we're not working to assist people here on earth, right there, there are other there's still an existence that is available to us, and then there are other dimensions that we can come back to in other places get to be discovered by humans.
But can we put in requests?
Yes, you can navigate which it is like the.
Old MTV show Total Requests Live, Like can we Okay, I know you don't know what it is, but there are people out there, I promise know what t r OL is. But I mean for real, like, is that a thing? You know? Because I have a list of things I'd like to do.
Yeah, yes, you will. You will be negotiating that with your with your you know, your counsel.
Okay, well I want to add on to her question.
Of course you do you do? You know?
And it's actually not funny, it's actually it's actually serious because my request is I would actually love to be a spirit guide.
Yes, that's that.
Does it have ever been one?
Yeah?
But like so if we're living you, oh my god, I loved it. So just you all know my favorite thing. There's a million things I love about Brenda's you guys very well know, and my one of my favorite things is when I asked the question, her eyes go up. And that's what just happened. When I ask you a spirit guide?
It does not look like you have been a spirit guide to date.
See, that's why I want to be one. Then that makes sense. I haven't been a firefighter either, so I mean there's a lot of things I haven't done. So why can't I get I would really like to be a spirit guide. Are they're afraid I'll like kind of fuck with my person? Is that they're worried about?
I know they because they would not allow that to happen. Sure, there are governing bodies around and trust me.
Oh right, it's like everybody's got a boss. Let's be we all have a boss.
That's exactly that is exactly right. So yeah, we're not worried about that. But put it in the put it in the hopper, put it in the list, and things will continue on this way, right.
Okay, one more question about spirit GUIDs. Do you get a pick who you guide or is it like a lottery?
It's well, there's I would say there's and we'll call it an interview process, but it's not. It's more like algorithms running who what kind of guide has this type of experience things like that, and so when it has when they have the right matchup, and it's the whole team of spirit guides, right, it's not just one. It's not right. It's not just one guide.
That's fair. Okay, all right, Yeah, I just want to see I just want to think about I want to get that like all set up in this live so I can boom go.
So get you understand it when you when you're applying is what you're saying.
Apparently, when I have to apply, I mean, is there a LinkedIn or something like that for your guide's Like you have to put in your you know, your resumes, you.
Have to work with your team so they know. If you inform your team, they'll know. They'll set you up. It'll take you a couple of cycles.
But have you ever been on?
Have I been? Sir?
Good?
Yeah, I don't think so interesting. I don't know. I've never asked. Really, Oh, isn't that interesting?
Okay?
Yeah? Uh.
Because you're only qualified before you, I can't qualify for the same spirit eye job as you, I'd lose, so I need to like be you know, I need to pick an inmate somewhere probably and a state penitentiary that they'll probably give me.
But that's work, they can. They need good guidance, right, that's a hard one. Yeah, yeah, that's true. You need a lot of and I watched too many prison shows, so clearly clearly, no, I for sure, I'm rewatching Orange is the New Black?
Right now? I know it weirdly comforts me. I can't understand it.
I don't.
It's very strange. Anyway, moving on, I don't probably take a quick break or do you have other things you want to add?
No, that's good, okay.
The next questions are far deeper than this. We promise.
I do it from you. I'll just do it this way.
You can't do that shit and welcome back, poof, We're back, just like that. Oh my god, hilarious. Okay, so I'm sorry, I'm still laughing in my head about Poof, We're back. So it's actually my job bring down second question.
I do not have access to the questions, no, I.
Know, it's on my notepad. Okay. So I love this question so much because it's totally one of my favorite cards in the road deck. And I just want to say before I actually tell you what the question is or share with you what the question is, that I love the fact that, again we talked about Sue being like she's really doing the work, she's engaging in the spiritual,
her spiritual practice, spiritual world. She gets guidance from you, she's taught by you, and the fact that she's doing this and having these questions is it just like it makes my heart beam, I know, because I know how it can change your life, you know. And so she had a really great question because she's been doing readings for herself and readings for other people, and she goes, she goes, Okay, the damn death card keeps coming up, and of course cards, No, I'm like, you know, I
love the death card. She says, I know, I know you love the death card, but it keeps coming up. But it keeps coming up in this context of grief. And she goes, because my interpretation of the death card are these are things that we need to face and let go. And I think that I think the question is, you know, can we should we so called let go of grief? And if we should or could by the way, have my own answer to this, you know, should we let go? And I think that was her question. It
keeps coming up. There's in this I think people are grieving lots of things, loss of level, there was loss, loss, lossless, lots of different things, and but grief specifically is you know what she asked.
About, so so many things about this. So the death card in to row means endings means completions means releasing means you know, awareness of It's also an invitation what are you ready to release? Like you know and identify it, and then while you're focused on that, something else might be might exit left as well, right, So like, like, how do I embrace the whole frequency of being complete?
Is the invitation or knowing that it doesn't mean necessarily that someone's going to die, and it can be death. So we grieve all kinds of things that aren't actual death, but they're just completions. And as many students tell me, you know, it's just so much better to know, and so I'm so grateful to have to row to guide me.
The other thing I just about the death card is when you're reading for someone and the death card comes up as a reader, especially as a new reader, and I consider anyone under three years a new reader, right that you'll want to dance around it. You'll want to almost try and go, well, something's closing, but that doesn't mean it's going to be bad, and dance around it.
And don't do that, right, that's such a disservice to the person who drew the death card that said, hey, look, you have this frequency that's coming in that says things will be closing or ending. You may know exactly what this is about. It may catch you by surprise, but know that everything has its natural cycle, and you know, be present, be present to the things in the people, and you know whatever is going on in your world,
because that will diminish your regret. You know, when it comes up, like whatever, whether it's Hey, I was in this class and it came to a close, or hey, you know whatever it was like, just be present because that's the best way you'll have all these experiences and memories that you were there for, not distracted by your phone or whatever whatever distracts you. So that's the first
thing I would say. But the other thing about the death card is that, as we've talked about grieving and death so many times and you know you can't in this pod, is that the the grieving part, people get fit, fatigued to buy, and society gets impatient with right. Sometimes our external tribes get man, are you still there? How
long are you going to be there? You know? I want to go to a concert, you know, I want to have fun, you know, or whatever it is, Snap out of it and snap out of it, right they So there can be an impatience and even a fatigue like am I doing this wrong because I'm still so sad or I still I can't. I just can't embrace the new I can't. It's not like I'm in denial that that person's gone or even that opportunity is gone, because it can show up that way sometimes. But it's
not that I'm in denial. But I'm just so sad. And the truth is, the more you embrace that sadness and honor it and find, you know, a therapy, a grief group, something that helps you embrace and express, the more quickly, more efficiently you'll be able to move through it. And this is really hard for people because it's counterintuitive. This is uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. I don't like this, I don't want to embrace it. Why would I double down on it? Why would I pay someone to talk about it?
That just is added to insult to injury, you know, and we avoid that discomfort and when you can share it and be held and honored in that sacred space of grieving and understanding. As you know we've talked before, grieving and that discomfort and that heavy heart is the badge of loving something fully right. It's literally something you've
earned the right to experience to embrace. And so discreating space and telling people what you need is really important and giving yourself the grace to actually ask what you need and get what you need and it will take care of itself. There's no timeline for grief. There's still you know, people who've been gone and double digits that when I talk about I still tear up and never apologize for that. I'm sorry if you're uncomfortable, but I.
Might that's on you.
Yeah, I mad say that, but you know, I'm like, no, I love this person so much. You know, there's no way I'm not going to tear up that they are not standing in front of me right now.
There's no way that happened to me just yesterday. Oh well, of course it did, because you talked about it, so of course it did, and because Cop Suey asked about it. Yeah, i'd actually have met this guy who I just adore, like I feel like we are past life kind of good to see again kind of folks.
I love that.
And he's a writer, and he was sharing with me one of the stories he's like, he's written plays and scripts for films and things like that, and so you know, part of how I communicate, as we all know, is by stories. And so we were talking about a different aspect of one of the stories that he wrote, and I was telling him a story about my mother as by way of example of this one particular screenplay he was writing. And as I was talking, I was in tears, talking about my mother.
Of course you are.
Of course I was right. I mean, in two weeks it's going to be thirteen years and as society would have it, I should be done. I am I'm never going to be done. And it's and I'm so okay with it because that you know, you taught me early on and I just so have carried this around with me, is that grief is a badge for love. And the second that I don't feel that I would be grieving,
what's wrong with me? Yeah, it's like if I'm not grieving that if I and I don't mean it's not every day, I don't carry around the same sadness that I did, you know, thirteen years ago when things like that. But I'm still moved by the depth of love that I have for her she had for me, the wonderfulness of everything that she was that's still there. And if I did and like I actually hindsight, if I wouldn't have have the waterworks didn't start, I would actually be concerned.
Yeah, well then we'll know that you definitely have a walk in going on.
So yes, I'm definitely wrong exactly, But I also we all know I I I love big and I grieve hard. Yeah, and I'm it's like I agrieve hard and I am not ashame of it, shamed at all of it. And uh and I think so, I think it was just interesting that she asked that question. I think it's interesting that you know, there is a delineation of you know that the death card and and how how we read it and how we also perceive like something may be coming to a close and it doesn't have to be
a person. If it is a person, that's a different conversation about you know, the end of something, so to speak. And I.
Think also just acknowledging like it's okay to take time to grief and and you know, even there's a great book out there, this's going to be a total tangent but called Burnout, called the Ghost Photographer that well, that too, but but it's a book. It's a book on body cycles and how how your body handles stress, right, and so it's a very it seems tangential by that. It's Burnt Out by the Nagowski Twins. I can't Emily and something else I can't remember what the names are, but
the Nagowski twins wrote this book and it's great. But one of the things they talk about to recover from stress is purposeful crying. Like this, set aside time to play the sad songs, go through the photo book, you know, smell the person's clothing whatever, like whatever it is, put aside that time, and you know it. And you think you're never going to stop crying, and you will when you give it all this space instead of trying to control it, you will actually stop crying after I don't know,
like twenty minutes or something. It's like twenty to thirty minutes. Give yourself a window. But like it's it. Ca'st really helpful for the body to recover, to have these kind of outlets.
So, yeah, it's called burnout.
It has a long subtitle. I can't remember what it is. I think it's I think it's called burnout. How to Recover by completing the stress cycle or something like that. Yeah, so I.
Know where I'm going to head after our recording on my audible and.
Let me just say this and do it on audible. Because they read their own work. I always love it when authors read their own work and they are hysterical. They are hysterical. Yeah, oh that's for good funny, Yeah, it's very funny.
Okay, well, I that is actually that's really great advice, and I will take you up on it to read it or listen to it.
You sound so surprised.
No, I'm not surprised at all. It's just I didn't expect you're going to give us a recommendation.
I love that.
And I think it was a great question. So thank you quick, yeah, thank you, cop Sue, and we'll be right back with a p s A.
Okay, and we're back.
It's I feel like I'm five and laughing at the same joke, but it's so good.
Okay, we're having fun.
Oof, we're back. Okay. So there is there was a situation that somebody had to deal with where where uh uh, somebody claimed because of their in this case, it was a religion that just them being present would clear room. And I think the p s A is give us our PSA. So yeah, you got the good PSA.
So this is for someone who believes that their presence will energetically clear room, and someone who has not been trained or in energetic dynamics, but is very convicted in his religious practice. Right, it was at a fair statement. That's very fair, Okay, So this is my PSA is just because you saw something on TikTok doesn't mean you know how to do it. Okay, that's it. Just because just because you saw it on TikTok doesn't mean the person who who posted that knows how to do it either.
Like we have to be there. There are things we can wing and you know it's fine, or you have some experience. We don't know if it's effective, but there are some other things that you don't want to wing because it will boomerang back and explode in your face.
So so if this person wants to go ahead and energetically clear room with prayer, that is a lovely offering and we don't know that what Depending on what's going on in that room, that prayer could end up being fuel for the fire of destruction, right, So we have to know what we're doing. Do not mess around. We've covered all kinds of episodes of clearing. Please feel free
to scour back. Know what you're doing, Keep you and your family safe, keep the spaces safe, because you could be part of the problem.
So yeah, and for real, real, the if if anybody's dealing with like a conjured energy, they laugh at that shit. Yeah, because that is you can the plane that they operate on.
You can hear them. You can hear them cackling. So entertained. Do not do it. Do not do it.
Do not do it exactly.
And so if this person right, because this came to us third party, right this, if this person whose friend believes like, let you let that friend go, had an attempt, but you know, the person who's one degree from you should not be in this space.
It's like, be far far away to get out.
Yeah, far far away. Do not engage. Do not engage. Yeah, fast, and look like if you are talking about Catholic priests or something like that, not Catholic practitioners, but Catholic priests, they are.
Actually you mean parishioners. What did I say, practitioners?
Practitioners, I thinks.
And the fact that I had the fact that I had to correct that is actually quite humorous.
But in my mind that's what I said. Okay, so it wasn't okay, thank you for the correction. That was helpful.
Sorry, but if because actually it doesn't matter what I'm saying, but the Catholic priests are actually trained in this an exorcism, not all of them, but they they have access to people who are trained.
So that's a different deal. Like if you have a Catholic priest to who is trained in exorcisms and clearing, that's one thing that's that's real. Right, they've done the training.
Watch the the Exorcists.
You'll totally know. Do not watch the Exorcist.
It's not a comedy, and neither's Poultergeist. What you're trying to say.
Poltergeist is a comedy.
You know, it's funny. I just brought that up the other day. Uh, we have a friend here named is Sharon, and I don't know how oh I was talking about when I taught at USC and Poultergeist was the assignment I gave my class and how they went and how you said Poultergeist is not a comedy, but how my class one of the groups came back with an idea to partner with Chipolte and they wanted to call it Chipultergeist, and they thought they wanted to have ghost pepper like
hot sauce and stuff. That's funny, that is that's the greatest class. Yeah, that I taught. But they literally came back and said, when we were sitting we're all having dinner at Chipolte and so I said, you know what, would it be cool if they had chipoltterr Geist here? That was my kind of person.
People are very creative, So that's my answer to that situation. People, do you know PSA, be careful, be smart, do your homework.
So stop, drop and roll.
That's fine. Nice.
I decided to give my dog a little kiss on the nose because she's crowding me anyway.
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