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Walk The Moon

Jul 30, 202135 min
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The band open up about then euphoric anthem of self-acceptance, “Can You Handle My Love,” their upcoming album Heights, and the thrill of returning to the road after 18 months in lockdown. 

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Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runt t Dog, but enough about me, my guest today are responsible for one of the most truly joyous pop singles of the last decade, the exuberant Shut Up and Dance with Me. We need a little of that energy these days, which is good because the band are back with a new album called Heights. No release date's been set, but they've given fans a taste with their new single, the euphoric

self acceptance anthem can You Handle My Love? And as if That's not enough. They've also dropped two more tracks off of Heights, Giants and the applete titled I'm Good. Fans will be able to hear these songs live and in the flesh this fall when the band hit the road as part of their Dream Playing Tour. I'm so happy to welcome Nick Elion Seawn of Walk the Moon. Thank you great everybody. There was so much to talk

to you guys about it. I know you have a new album on the way, Heights, but I wanted to start by talking with you about your new single can You Handle My Love? And it's it's an ode to imperfections in a sense. I think you've you've called it a self love anthem. Can you tell me a little bit about where that song came from. I love that. Yeah, I really do feel that way about it. It's like, through this, through this lens of meeting someone else, I'm

meeting myself. You know, I'm I'm realizing all the all the bits and pieces of myself that I want somebody else to like. Actually that those are the places where I get to love myself. And it's one of those one of those songs that was like coming together in the moment through this vibration. This music just feels like so much fun. I just wanted to feel like, I just wanted to remind people of what they love about life. You know. It's just like something that's that's really I

don't know. It feels like a summer day or something beautiful. It's funny you mentioned it getting to know yourself better in a funny way through through your partner, seeing your own similarities in them, and and having that reflect back on you. I mean, I guess there's pros and cons. It makes me think of that old Seinfeld joke where he's dating the woman who's just like him, and then later on he's like, wait a minute, I don't want to date me. I hate me a classic? But what

once you? Once you push through that, it's a wonderful thing. I mean the lyrics are are so I mean to my ears, very personal. I mean, I'm a freak and it's literal, got a hole in my heart, cann fill it with chemicals just the way. I am not trying to be difficult. I know you said on social media, Nick that that you write in a in a diary. Do you ever use your journal entries? Is jumping off points for for lyrics? Absolutely all the time? Yes, it's

kind of it's kind of back and forth. I'll find myself often like writing a song I'm not even sure what's about. Then I'll go back and read something and I'll realize, you know, that that had been stirring in my mind, or or it'll be kind of in this really weird reverse chronological thing where I'll write a song and not be entirely like it'll feel authentic and but but I won't be certain, like where who it's about

in my life or whatever. And then maybe a year two years later, I'm like Oh no, it's like it was about this that's happening now. How do I do that? I think I think life is just in Life happens to us in cycles, and so themes will repeat, you know, as you as you grow and evolve and you meet life in you know new ways and you make different choices. These you know, these these cycles come back and and so maybe that's maybe that's why I'm living in my

own time portal. I'm not really sure. Yeah, I believe that there are people who come into our lives for a reason, to bring us to a new place and kind of get us to that next I don't want to call it step, but whatever that next places. And it must be funny for for all of you listening to these songs back, almost like dream decoding. You realize later on, like, oh my god, that that's what all that meant. That's what you know. They always say that

every character in your dream is really you. I love that. I think that's really flaws seems too harsh, thrown imperfections. Do you have any tips, all of you for for for self acceptance? What do you want people to get

from this song? Something I sort of started to say before, but that I keep coming to, Well, this is this is a fun time and a strange time for personally, for I think for us where we are talking about the music for the very first time, and so there are some ways that we've you know, chatted about, like these are some of the themes of the album. But a lot of times this this stuff is we're coming into realization of it in some of these first few interviews.

You know. That's interesting. Yeah, And so something that I keep coming to is this feeling of like I really I want listeners to be reminded of what they love most about their life. I want to be own them to be reminded of the things that they like the most about themselves. And I think that that's for me as in like a self love journey and the self

acceptance journey. Like that's that's part of it. It's like being reminded, whether it's through another person or reflection or whatever it is, of the things that I actually appreciate about myself, Like, oh, I've been spending the last thirty years building this person, and you know, I actually kind of like what we've we've created here. I like where we're going and coming into an acceptance of like the places where I'm not perfect, that doesn't that doesn't mean bad.

Those are just growth, growth spots, you know, growth areas, And I don't know, I feel like that's however you're looking at it, you know, I get I really like to get into the nerdy philosophy. I don't know vibe about it, but like it is something we're all doing right, We're all just I feel I trust that people are all trying to be better people all the time. You know, they're really trying to do their best with whatever they have.

I think when you when you have, when you live a life that's as documented as ours has been for the last ten years there, you know, there are a lot of photos and and it's funny for me to look back on the photos and think about how like I felt badly, you know, during this time of my life. Maybe I felt badly about my body, but I felt great about the pants that I was wearing. And now ten years on, I feel great about my body and think my pants are stupid, you know, And so like,

I've been there so hard. That's a few things have resonated with me more than what you just said. The police can and so trying to I think with with that in mind, like trying to keep that in mind

and having an eye on on your future. Often what you know your life may look like in retrospect helps you can can help you feel better about the process, you know, and and knowing that this this moment, this moment isn't forever and um, and it's going to get better and some things are gonna get better and some things are gonna get worse. But it's always evolving, you know. You know, God, life should be amusing, right and it's okay if it's if it's funny, you know, I'm in retrospect. Wow,

that's really I never thought about that. Like you said, about having a life that is so well documented and the evidence is right there either on the Internet or on your albums. Does that sort of give you in a funny way, almost like a bit of a leg up on the rest of us for for what you just said, just sort of appreciating being in the moment and kind of knowing that you kind of can choose your path forward. It isn't really all this preordained thing.

I mean, every day is a chance to to be different, to love yourself, to move in the direction you want to go. You know, the thing that I think about a lot now is like, what's it gonna look like when my son's friends my son is too, when my son his friends find these interviews that I'm doing now and make fun of him because of some dumb ship that I said in two thousand and twelve, Do you know what I mean? Uh, That's what I'm thinking about now.

You know, these are the way these like certain things will come back and haunt you just no matter who you are, some things will come back and haunt you, and some things will come back and lift you up, you know. And and every day we get to choose what had the way we see ourselves and the way we see other people. Are we looking at the things that lifted those people up? Are we looking at those things that that we're you know, humiliating? Yeah? And so it's a it's a choice, you know, it's a choice.

And oftentimes, because of emotions, it doesn't feel like a choice. And now I'm spinning it out into the theory theoretical stuff that Nick was talking about a minute ago. You know, oftentimes, because emotions doesn't feel like a choice, it feels like you have to feel a certain way, but you don't. You can use choices. It's just that. And that is very much like our new record, which we chose to make, and the day and the choice that we decided to be all on tour highly encouraged you to make the

choice to buy the to come see the tour. Yeah, and all the it's good to be doing interviews again. Well, I mean, I was gonna say, and some of the few interviews and statements that I've read you talking about this new album, he said, it's a lot more of a sort of an up album and more optimistic than two thousand seventeens. What if nothing? What do you think was responsible for that shift? I mean, was it reaction to everything going on in the world or was it

something within yourself? That's a great question. In I think I think any artists, I imagine can't help but like be informed, Like the art can't help but be informed by the world going on, you know, around them. Although even though was one of the darker years that we've all experienced, this one has has come out with a

little more sunshine. Maybe that's why, maybe you know that, maybe that's partly why I think in my my father was passing away, and there was I don't know, there were some wild current events that continued to just I don't know them that made the world seem a little scarier in some ways, and that was just I don't know. We wanted to We wanted to make something a little more dark Horse for for Walk the Moon, even though one ft the single and one foot's like the most

hopeful you can do it anthem we've written. Maybe so even even dark for Us is not super dark, but it's not tom Ways right the piano. I think maybe more than any of the like philosophical stuff, there's something that in us the want to return to our roots um, and there's there's something in my opinion, there's something of like the first record and that time that's like come back to life in this on this album is like a little bit of this unbridled like hope and also

wildness and fun. I really feel like that came through on Giants. I think that's a great song about you know, sort of a David and Goliath story taking on these these big fources. I really liked that. That was of the I think three songs that are out now, that was I think my favorite, just because I I thought it was a great message. Tell me a little more

about that track, Giants, thank you so much. Yeah, as you're talking about that, I'm like, actually, some of these some of these tunes came from some of the darkest moments, and it's like anything, it's like transmuting those things into into making that choice, like doing something positive with it. Yeah, Giants. Giants for me lyrically came from a place of like being in a really tumultuous relationship and it felt like every single day we were like dealing with something, processing

something together. Some you know, something would like turn the whole felt like it would turn the whole relationship on its head. And yet I was like, so you know, it was it kind of ended. It was a it was a story relationship. But there were times where we we're kind of like looking at each other like we can make it through anything. We're gonna We're gonna lovingly

make our way through any obstacle. And it felt like it felt like knocking down these giant monsters every day, Like every every day we come up with our sword and shield and we're gonna, you know, like clockwork, they show up that morning, by that by that night, we've slaid them. You get a couple hours asleep and wake up and do it again. If I can offer an alternate perspective on it. I remember when that song was was being developed. We were in l A recording, We

were recording can You Handle My Love? And you were giving me a ride to the studio on that particular week, and we'd be driving to the studio and Nick would be like sharing these really intense experiences that he was going through when he went home every night, you know, when he went home from the studio, and then it would be like, you know, it's it's l A, so it's forty minutes anywhere. So it's like, you know, it's so it's for it's forty minutes of like, oh my god,

that happened last night. And then we go and then we go into the studio and we would have to like like strap on our armor to make this up music, you know, to like put that back or at least Nick props to Nick put that away for the ten hours that we're in there and record and record stuff like can You Handle My Love? You know, and so like even that was a was a demonstration of of being able to persevere in and overcome. How's the last

year year and a half at this point? Wow, been a productive time for you because I feel like half the people I know work has been a great thing to throw themselves into. Is great to have something else to focus on rather than you know, external chaos, be it personal or just geo political with you know, coronavirus and everything. Or is it hard to kind of get that motivated? Did you feel kind of way down by

it all? Or did it depend on the day. We kind of like didn't stop because we were like literally reporting I'm good in the studio and that was like right, and everything shut down. So yeah, it's like we've we've been busy doing the rest of the album. Is it just like there's there is just a little bit of extra work that goes into it obviously, you know, we all just rushed a great our studios so we could actually keep working. So like Giants is the first one

we did. So it was sort of us, like you said, like David David Beliath, Yeah, we were kind of just just like little little guys just like Okay, well we gotta make this big thing now. Yeah, we got've been busy working on Giants being the first one was a really affirming experience because we were recording separately from the for the first time. It's not like an electronic drone tune, you know what I mean, it's like a big it's like a big rock. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so and

so we're recording. We're recording this separately in our homes, which are thousands of miles apart, and and really like not dipping our toes but diving in, you know. And and it worked, you know, and we knew and we knew that the recording was working and that we were excited about it, and that really gave us strength to carry on and finish the record. Um and the way we did and what was that? Was there a learning curve to that? Like how how did it go when

you first started doing the remote? Like that must have been a huge adjustment. Yeah, well, you know at the time, now in the middle of you got it down every well everyone everyone's like, oh, you can do anything over zoom, But at the time we didn't know if that was really possible. Fortunately, combination of a few like pretty simple applications and a really talented engineer and us like as

as Sean said, upgrading our personal studios. It really there was there was a bit of a curve, but you know, in a in a way it was pretty smooth. I think we were all like really pleasantly surprised with how like it didn't diminish the creative experience. You know, there were like there were hurdles, and it's a very it's a totally different thing like walking into my living room and then closing the computer and then I'm out and you know, I'm not in the studio anymore. Um, just

a it's a it's a different thing. The energy is a little different. Um, you know, you're not having necessarily that same dream life experience of like there's your one of your favorite producers and in there with your band and like that you've got the Yeah, yeah, so the recording console count costs as much as your house. You like that kind of thing. You know, it's just you

and your laptop. Yeah exactly. So you know it wasn't the same, but the but the creative process was really preserved in this magical way and I think enhanced in some ways. Right. I think I think the record has like a richer texture from doing it at home because we would we would do the tracks that we expected to do. You know, we would get together on our zoom and I do the record the guitar parts UM, and we'd be like, all right, great, we have them,

send them over and we'll we'll get them edited. And we'd hang up and I'd be like, oh, I forgot I have this one pedal that maybe what if I just ran it through that and sell it, Like, let's just see what happens. And so we would all do work kind of offline and find like deeper creative places that we might not have found when you know, we're on the clock at a at a fancy studio, or that we might not have given ourselves permission to try, you know, if we weren't in the safe space of

our of our homes. So I actually think the record, the record has a Richard texture and more detail because of UM recording it at our at our relative spaces. Wow, that's really interesting. What was the process like of actually building up the tracks? I mean, did they start with you Sean and lay down the rhythm track and then based on top of that and kind of get the you know, the rhythm as the foundation or how did that work? I mean that's that's generally the order we

started recording. Um, yeah, we'll start with drums and then base and then are and yeah, so that that part really didn't change much, you know, it was just the only thing it changed, is like we we just got

to listen to our our own system. That it's it's kind of nice sometimes just being able to control the on your own volume something you don't so yeah, that, like Eli was saying, you know, just the comfort aspect once we got plastic hurdles and learning just using all this this new gear, using proper techniques that we might not use when just something I mean, it's so cool

the thing that you're right. I mean, not only are you just emotionally more free being in your own space, but you're right, you're not on a studio time or you know, every hour is god knows how much money and you really gotta like nail it. That's got to be so liberating in a in a funny way. I mean. And you also work with some really incredible collaborators on this record, to Kay Flay, Tommy English. But what did

those folks bring to the table for these sessions. It was so awesome working with Kay play and Tommy on on Keny Hand of My Love. Um, you can actually hear kay Play's voice on Keny Hand of My Love. There's like um in the middle of the verse, got a hole in my heart and cheme it go what you got? Like that little what you Got? That's that's kay Like literally the lead vocal on the song is is like the first one, the first run through, and

that's the first take. That's the first take. I mean that was like that was the first like it was. It was like while the song was being written like that, you know, but kay Play's lit early in the in the back of the room going what you Got, and like we're like, well, let's keep that perfect. I can't. I can't say that was the one take all the way through. That's that's not that's not true. But it was like that was the first iteration. Like the energy

of that that first night, UM is there. You know. I didn't go back and re redo any of that because it was it wasn't We didn't need to. However, one of my favorite collaborators, and this is a producer, Paul Meaney. He's the you know, formerly the lead singer of Mute Math. I remember the year that I started Walk the Moon in college, I was obsessed with with

Mute Math. I was like really into Mute Math. Had gone to see them with my buddy at bow Guarts in Cincinnati, UM, where we're coming back through this fall playing playing two nights at bill Guards and like front row, just going nuts, and and then ship ten years later, he's like producing our half the album, and that's that's so cool, you know. It's it's really interesting working with

different producers. And on this record we have Mike Crossey, who's like very much this how you how I might imagine a producer like this, this guru wise figure with a you know, an accent of the of the British Isles and um. And Paul Meny, on the other hand, is a band guy. You know, he's like, it's like our our big brother. You know, we've been out, we've we've played shows with with Mute Math in the past, and so he comes with this whole other perspective. And

he's also a really talented keyboard player. So it's it was it's been really fun to expand to see what ways the different songs expand depending on who's who's producing them. I was just gonna say about Paul. The new bundle of songs, there's a song called called I'm Good that has this very long outro. This this long outro that basically like Paul added after we went home for the day. UM. We came back in the next day and like Paul had like worked out this this whole outro and the

piano playing is him. We were working out this ultra for our first live performance this weekend, and we like looked at the MIDI the sheet music for these chords that Paul was playing. I went, I went to jazz school. I've got a degree. I got no idea what he's doing here. I got no clue what he's thinking with

these chords. But they're just beautiful, these beautiful voicings. And it's just he's bringing this like New Orleans jazz oriented UM extended chords thing to Walk the Moon, which we never like is unusual, which is unusual for our for for a Walk the Moon record, flat augmented ninth and all that kind of crazy stuff. Dude, it's it's crazy. It's it's crazy. UM big, big chromatic energy UM from Paul Meney. So it's that's definitely UM one way that he shaped our record. It's so cool. It's so cool

to have his playing on the record. Yeah, yeah, piggybacking off of that, I liked how bold he was that basically this outro was kind of Uh, at the end of the previous day, we had jammed on a bunch of different stuff, like it created these palettes of bits

of music that didn't necessarily even go together. We weren't even sure what we were doing, you know, like I'm I'm on a juno playing some chords and allies playing the playing my chords with his pedals, you know, and like, and we didn't know what we were going to do with any of that stuff. You're like, well, that was fun.

And then the next morning, Paul has taken the liberty of adding a section of music to our song that that like has pieced all of these bits that we played together and then with his own like chords underneath. And so it's just that takes a certain type of artists, you know, to to make that choice. We could have totally been like, no, man, that's not it's not who

we are, bro, you know. But but it was beautiful and we we love to and then and then we realized, oh, there's there's more song there, and and there's more lyrics to be you know, and that's and that's where the section of I'm good coming, you know, one more thing before I fade away. You know. It's like that was inspired by this news section of music. You mentioned earlier that so much of this record to you've almost felt

like a return to your roots. I thought it was interesting to learn that a number of these songs actually in some cases are almost a decade old, the demos that you started back you know, when you first started the band. What was it like coming back to to those demos, What was the refining process like, first of all, deciding which of those to use and then taking them part reconstructing. I'm giving them a polish well Ablem's called Heights.

There is a title track and one of the there's there's two songs on the record that are this old. They're like nearly ten years old, nine years old maybe, and and it's stuff that we've loved since then, you know. And it's just like it's not always clear or logical the way that some songs make it too on a record and another one don't. Heights in particular is is like this tune that I'm just like, man, I just feel like, I feel like we should put this on

a record. It's and it's there's a there's an experimental nous to it that has kept it alive for this long in our vault. We're a band that writes a

lot of songs. There's a there's a big vault of tunes that who knows if anyone will ever hear, And that one continued to to like, you know, shine and raise its hand, and UM, I don't know you you asked about you asked about the refining process, right, because you know, a song that lasts that long like what I think oftentimes, and I think it's true for the two older songs, which kind of they actually like bookend the album, there's something spontaneous, something like the spirit of

that particular moment, like if you look at a song as like a polaroid of that moment in time, Like there's something really like lightning in a bottle that that can be lost in the all the the infinite things that you can do in production and you know, in the virtual studio UM and in revisions on revisions and revisions UM. But these two songs we really were. We're hell bent on preserving that initial spark, and I'm really grateful.

It feels so amazing now to finally, you know, but they've been demos forever, so it feels really amazing to hear them played and fully realized and and that that they work. It worked, They work so good. How did you land on the Heights as the as the title track? That's a great question. We had a bunch of ideas and it and it just like again, it like kept winning. I don't know, you know, we haven't like I don't know that we've gone super deep on why it it's

the right one. I really believe in the listeners power of choice and the listeners power of interpretation, and that like we're going to have our reasons for this and that or what what a song quote unquote means, but it's way more important to me what it means to

somebody else. So so for me, heights is both like the highs of the highs that you that you you realize are so high up from down low, from those moments from the troughs and the valleys, and also when you're up there and you're up on the in those big heights, like how uh it might be kind of terrifying that, like you know, how high up you are? Like, is there more good stuff to live? Can I can?

I constantly? Can I can? I keep reaching for more joy, more excitement, more meaning and significance and uh and and you know, nothing's permanent might fall at any moment. So it's like there's danger and joy all in one thing. For me personally about it, it's a good summation of life, danger and enjoy. Is there a release date set for the for the album? I don't think so. We have

we have a we're aiming. We got it, We're got when we're aiming for, but we we shall not reveal it today on this day of all old We shall look forward to it. Then, when you weren't making music in the last year and a half, what did you all like to do? It was your favorite way to decompress? They're together or solo? Unwind, stay ground and stay amused. Take your pick. What was your your your favorite new pandemic hobby? So was my new hobby? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

I recommend it. It's it's hard work but fulfilling, you know, yeah, my um, I feel it certainly feels strange to silver line give give a pandemic a silver lining, but like, you know, but it but truly, um truly felt so lucky to be with my son for the last two years. You know. Um, I would have missed a lot, a lot of his development and a lot of like first or I would have seen him through a screen, you know. Um. And I was actually able to be here and and form such a strong bond that now it will make

everything else seems so seems so hard. It will make everything so much harder now to go on tour and to like, you know, because we are so bonded and

so used to seeing each other all the time. But it's been it's been, really it's been really wonderful and and figuring out the logistics, you know, just like just like the maddest, hugest props to parents everywhere of all varieties, you know, because like this this ship is really hard, you know, Like I have I always thought of myself as being like a two two kid person, Like I'm I have a brother, and I was like always like left too, and now I've got one, and I'm like,

oh my god, how does anybody, how do you how does that people have three? Are you great? You know, I'm just like so like figuring out the logistics and how to continue being a person beyond parenting while also being committed to parenting. That's been it's been my major undertaking, um and and truly like very very fulfilling and um and joyful. And also I baked for a while and yeah exactly, yeah, I also baked and and uh, you know,

got into gardening. I've got raspberries. Sean Nick, what about you? What about you guys? Up to in the to this maybe something new that you you hadn't really dove deep into before. I'm still thinking about Eli's kid right now. Actually, um we it was a wild experience this past weekend we had our first show back at Wonderstruck in Cleveland Real Life Festival and it felt incredible and it was the strangest thing. Um, you know, the last time I saw Eli's son, he was he was a little little, tiny,

bitty bitty baby. And now he's nearly two and walking around and if any if there's any uh indicator of the lost year, it's like whoa, Like we've got a new person in our family now, you know, Like who wasn't there before, and it's, um, it was you know, it was it was. It was so cool getting the whole family, the band, family, band and crew we've got, We've got so many members of our crew who have been with us a really really long time. Um, and you know, we had parents there and so it was

just it was it was really special. And and um to see see Eli as a dad and and like like just get to like watch this like a little man run around. Um, was was very very special. I show up in different shoes when I'm doing the dad thing. I show I show up in crocs when it's when it's time, when it's matching crocs with my son. Yeah, it's time to dad. I got to wear the matching crocks. And my my sister had a baby during all this, and I only saw her pregnant once, and even then

it wasn't really she couldn't really tell. So in my mind it was like I missed the whole step of like, I don't know, I feel like being able to sort of see her in the process would have made it more real. But now it's like, oh my god, next time I I finally saw her again and she's got a baby, it's just like, oh my goodness, Like you mentioned that being a strange way to measure the passing of the last year and a half. That's one right there.

I went from seeing my my my little sister all of a sudden she she's a mom with with a little one who's still very very young. But still it's it is, it is wild like and no other time in the last ten years would Sean not meet my child until he was too you know, like that like Sean, like that's crazy. You know, that's a that's a totally different lifestyle than where how we've been living. Sean, What

about you? What about outside of outside of studio stuff? No, I just locked myself in the entire time, really just been going on like road trips when drives. Really what I've been doing? Nothing interesting? Oh man, that's good. So you're out in in l A, right, You're going up like Pacific Coast Highway and stuff like that. One that couple of times, love Nzo Breno. We're driving around the

Salt and Sea and a couple of times. Well, speaking of going out and driving, you're hitting the road in September, Thank goodness, how is that feel? I mean, you mentioned the festival in Cleveland a minute ago. I mean, gearing up for this time on tourist to feel a million percent different than anything you you know, any other tour you've ever done. How are you guys feeling? It was

quite a task this last week. You know, we had a like, we had a few days of rehearsal leading up to the first show back, and we kept describing it like being kind of tossed into the deep end, you know, was it was a headline set are for our very first showback, um and playing new songs, and it was it was quite an undertaking, but it was something we were all just like fully down for, fully committed to to making it happen. And it really, I

mean it it lit the fire again. I'm I'm like, I'm sad that I'm still that we're playing a tour at all, but I'm sad that it's it's now going to be you know a couple of months between this show and the next, because it felt it feels like home. You know, It's like this is this is one half of our being this you know, were you ever a runner? Jordan's uh no, no, really no, alright, So I it

makes me think of the I was. I was across country runner in high school, and it makes me think of the first run that I ever went on, where it's like it was like an easy run. It was like five minutes, Like go run for five minutes, and I'm like, great, I can do that, no problem, and so I just like take off right and I burn out immediately. You know. I burned out after like a minute and a half, and then I'm just like dead

for those last four minutes. That's kind of what the first two or three songs of this set were like. I was like, let's go no, no, no, no, you know, I was just like I was like, oh, I've completely forgotten how to play live. I need to pace myself. I need to breathe. Let's breathe, Let's drink the water, you know. And then it came back. And then once I started breathing and like taking it easy. But god, it was so exciting. It was so exciting to be back on stage and to like be received by the

audience the way we were. We saw there's a wonderful, wonderful Instagram called w t M S Cats, which recreates photos of us but as felines, and so the person who runs that. You know, we see her around a lot, and we hadn't seen her in years, and she was front and center, you know, after all this time, singing along to every song, and it's so wonderful and so touching to reconnect with those people and see that they're

still there for us. It's it was really emotional. I just and I like almost cried a number of times. There were a number of times where I got goose bumps and I felt the thing, the little pre cry thing happening in my chest and I'm like, steal up, you know. And and then after after the set, I talked to, you know, a number of guys in the band and a number of the guys in the crew, and just like everyone had had the same experience. Everyone was like, oh yeah, dude, I almost cried for sure.

I almost cried tonight. Um. It is so it was so emotional. It was really it was really wonderful and I can't I can't wait to do it again. Oh man, we can't wait to see you guys back out there soon. Thank you so much, NICKI, Sean, thank you so much for taking the time today. Really appreciate it. You guys are the best can't wait to see out there against soon. Thank you. I'm gonna plug now the tour this fall,

that aream Plane Tour. We're playing a bunch of places we haven't done in a while, like some of the like smaller clubs, Like we wanted something integrate, something a little more intimate our first time back, you know, like two nights aid Bo Guards at our hometown and Cincinnati and all over the US. It's gonna be full long. We're gonna play the new record. It's something we are so so so thrilled to bring. So here we go.

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