Sophia Scott

country music with her passion for grunge. You can get a taste with her new six track EP One of These Days, which features her empowering new single more Me, and recent favorites like the euphoric Sweetheart and the deeply personal title track, and if you still want more, I encourage you to check her out on TikTok, where she has plenty more songs that are as hilarious as they

are catching. There's a cautionary tale about a man with a mullet, and my personal favorite, a track called Sherlock Holme Wrecker, which, for my money, would do the Dixie Tricks proud. I'm so happy to welcome Sophia Scott Well first and foremost. Your new song more Me came out a few days ago, and I love it so much for so many reasons, not least of all that introduced me to the phrase small truck energy, which we gotta get on a t shirt or something that's so good.

Um right, yeah. Um, you said it's a song for anybody who needs to find themselves again, which is such a great message. Tell me about where that song came from for you. Yeah. Well, first I was going to say that maybe I'm not supposed to say this yet, but it is being on it. It's coming on a T shirt. Send you one. Yeah, Um, although it's gonna

say big truck energy, so I guess you'd probably sell more. Yes, yes, yes, yes, anyway, Um, that song is cool because um it actually, although I do tell it from my own point of view, in my own perspective, it's actually from it transpired from a

conversation that I had with a girlfriend one night. We were sitting and drinking wine on her couch and she she was in sort of a toxic relationship in which I feel like she was being controlled more or less, and I think, you know, we we were just talking a lot about it, and I think she was kind of at the end of her rope, and she was like, you know, I just need a lot less him and a lot more me. And I was like, that's a song.

And I was actually going into the studio like a few days later, and so I wrote that, and I wanted it to be really fun and kind of not like a diss on him, but you know, yeah, it's a female empowerment song, and yeah, I think I don't know,

I hope that it's relatable. I mean, I I although it's told from her perspective, I think that many people know that feeling of just losing yourself in a relationship with somebody else and needing to kind of maybe find who you are again and get that boundary of how much is, you know, time for the relationship versus how much just for myself. Yeah, that's a really it's a tough thing to learn, it is. Yeah. Sure, Um, you've

debuted a number of just amazing songs on TikTok. Sherlock Holme record is a favorite of mine, But Mullet over it is just donny, I mean, an ode to either an ode or a cautionary tale. I can't really tell which about a man with an F one fifty and a mullet What are your plans for all these songs? I'm just so blown away by how I mean. I'm somebody who's never written a song in his life, so this is just like sorcery to me, you have all these songs, what are your plans for some of the

ones that are living on TikTok? Now? Are they slated for a future EP, future album or so many of them? I know there's a lot. I'm actually so happy I answered or you asked me this question because I feel like everybody's for the TikTok audience, especially because they're like, where the hell are all these songs? Um? But yeah, I I have plans to release. I can't say all of them right now, but a large majority of them.

There is an album coming, and my debut EP comes out next week, so some of them are on there, and then some are still to come. It's just hard, you know. I feel like people don't realize just how much goes into like actually putting a song out and all that, and so then I I've kind of tried to scale it back now with releasing all the demos because I feel like now I have angry fans that are like, how is it all? They are so great? But yeah, I'm glad you like Mullet, one of my favorites.

I did get some angry um men with Mullets that did not like these songs so much. But you know, it's not a dis on mullets. It's just a it's a it's a guy. It's just on a guy. Yeah. I was like, I actually love mullets, so I wanted to be said that I love mullets. Speaking of just this incredible wealth of music you have, not too far back, you released another single One of these Days, which is absolutely gorgeous song. I know it's a very special long for you from a very personal place. Can you tell

me a little bit about that track. It sounds like it was something that was kind of, uh in the works for for years. He wrote that years ago, right, yes, yes, well you've done your research. Um, I appreciate it. Yeah,

I appreciate your music. Thank you. Um So Yeah, I wrote that song almost like four years ago actually, and I've I've been holding it in my back pocket, I guess because it is so personal and I think, you know, since writing it really opened up a door to my songwriting as far as like being able to become vulnerable.

I think I had written a lot of breakup songs that sort of scratched the surface of you know, going into that, but I had never it's very scary as a songwriter to actually go deep and talk about things that might make some relationships in your life uncomfortable. Um, if that makes sense. Um, you know, just this song talks about my parents divorce, and for a really long time, I was so scared to play it for them, even though it's not you know, it's not dashing really either

of them. It's just talking about a personal experience that I had with that. And I think I have realized, especially through writing it. And and that's only really one aspect of the song. The song is about a lot more than that, but that's the first verse. And I think, you know, music to me growing up has always been a healing that's something that can help heal me, you know,

or just at least make me feel less alone. And when other songwriters or just other artists that I love are willing to go there and willing to go to that vulnerial place and talk about, you know, some real stuff, I think, you know, I I, for whatever reason that day, I was like, I gotta go there. I gotta like,

I gotta do it. It's like my therapy. And and I hadn't I had never written with either of these two other songwriters who I wrote co wrote it with and they were like, let's like talk about some real ship basically, and I was like yeah, and um, so we ended up writing that. And I think the song really has become this like because yes, the first verse is about my parents, but then it it's about my own realization with just love and life in my own breakups and you know, then into my career and just

how you know. I think I hate saying everything happens for a reason because I don't know that that's necessarily the message, but but that there's through any difficult situation that you go through, there's growth and their strength on the other side, and you know you you can come out of it. And I think it's it's become my personal reminder of just knowing that I can. I can do anything, and I can I can find strength through

any sort of bad situation I go through. I almost got the sense that it was like the flip side of your song Sweetheart in a way. I mean, the one of these days it's all about the hard times, and then Sweethearts kind of all about the good stuff

that can come the other side of it. Yeah, Well it's funny because that so that actually leads me into why I called the record or the EPs is called One of these Days also, um, and I kind of decided after going back and forth through a million different titles and trying to figure out what I wanted to call the project, we landed on One of these Days because I think all the other songs fit into that

same message. And Sweetheart, you know, is the second verse of One of these Days, essentially like shrilled into one, if that makes sense. You know, it's about my high school sweetheart, and you know, just wishing wishing him well and knowing that there's I don't know that your first love is a complicated thing, but also I think a wonderful thing, and you learned so many lessons from that situation.

And I, you know, I wanted to we put it out around Valentine's Day, and I wanted to like just basically give an ode to all sweethearts and all first loves and wishing them well and knowing that although it didn't work out, you know, we can still appreciate it for what it was and still see the sweet in

the sweethearts, you know. Oh, absolutely, I hope everybody looks back on their first you know, love fondly and it has that because that's such a special thing for me, and I think of how much I learned and how you know, special they still are to mean, wherever they are, I have no idea where they are right now, but I still, you know, think about them from time to time and it's yeah, No, I think that's a that's a wonderful place to be at. And I hope that

people have that. I'll call it a gift, you know, that to look back on that time in their life and that person in their life fondly. Totally. Yep, I agree. I but one of these days maybe what an incredible song I love. I love the two versions you have the uh I think you called it the sad piano version of a st down version of it too, But it's it's it's such an amazing song. And I was curious, and I love asking songwriters this because I always get

a different answer. Do you ever learn something about yourself? When having finished the song and heard it back? I liken it to like a dream reading. Do you ever hear the song back? And I said like, oh my god, this is this is what I meant by this. I didn't know it at the time, But I honestly have chills because I just was talking about this the other day.

Like with songs that I wrote three years ago, I'll be like, I'll listen to and I'll be like, oh my god, it's like I didn't even know what I was talking about when I wrote it, but it was like I got it out and now listening back, I'm like, this, this is more real to me than it than it was when I wrote it, if that makes sense, Like three years later somehow it's like, oh, now this actually makes more sense than it did when I wrote it. I don't know how that's possible, but yeah, it's interesting.

It's yeah, it means something new. I guess, oh totally. I mean it's like in dreams, you kind of disguise whatever it is you're going through in other people their pictures, other scenes, whatever it is, and then you need to get some perspective from it to read into the metaphors

or whatever it is. I guess it's so interesting completely well, and I think that even like you know, I think not that history repeats itself, but it's like you go through cycles of life, and so these songs that you know, maybe they don't necessarily correlate to what you're going through in this specific time. They will at another time in your life when you're going through it again or whatever. Yeah.

Oh that's a great point. Yeah. We we definitely have patterns that we return to and behaviors relationships, some good, some bad. But for sure, is writing daily practice for you like some people jog or do yoga. Is it's something that that you do every day. Yeah, I mean I do it every day, whether whether I'm in an

actual writing session. I do writing sessions. At least I was, like in the past six months, I was writing like four or five times a week, which ended up being a little bit too much, especially once I had like the music and I kind of had to take a step back for a minute and live my life so

that I had things to write about. Um. But yeah, I mean, whether whether it's an actual writing session where I'm going in with the intention of writing a full song, or just like I voiced memo stuff every day, or like little titles will come to me inspiring like quotes or just like phrases or whatever it is will come to me, or if it's just like a feeling that I don't want to forget so that I you know, because I always find that when the inspiration hits or

like when lightning strikes, I guess, as they say, it's be come really important for me to sit down and write it because sometimes, or like in the past, I would be like in the middle of doing something and have this creative moment or creative feeling of inspiration and be like, oh, I'll just come back to it. I won't forget it. But it's so different when you come back to it, you don't you don't have the same emotion into writing it. So I feel like it's very important.

And I feel like any writer, songwriter, or just like author, whatever it is, would maybe say the same thing. It's like when it comes, write it down and like get the feelings out, because I think that's when it's the most valuable and the most emotional and real. What is that that flash look like to you? Is it? Is it a melody in your head? Is it a feeling? Is it a fragment of lyric? Is it all the above? Is it all the above at different times? What does

that look like? It's different at different times. I think, you know, it's crazy. Like recently it's been happening to

me in dreams, which has never happened before. But I'll have like lyrics or concepts come to me or or melodies, and I've I've heard Taylor Swift talk about this before and I was always like, that's so crazy, and I was I was like, I feel like I've manifested it into happening for me because it's it's I don't know, it's cool, but yeah, so so I've been I would call it like my it's not a dream journal because I just put it in my phone, but my phone

journal of dreams entrees. I guess um that, Like just the other night, I had this concept come to me and I woke up from a dream and I just wrote it down right away, because otherwise, if you don't do it, you forget it. And so sometimes, yeah, sometimes it's like a melody. Sometimes it's a concept. It happens a lot when I'm driving, like things will just come to me. I feel like, for when I'm flying in an airplane, I feel like there's something very ominous. I

don't know there's I don't like there's a reason. I feel like people cry when they're up in the air. It's just like you're very vulnerable, yes, and you're untethered. And I mean, at least if you're me, you're terrified because I hate flying, but you're just yeah, you're you're not connected, totally, totally. Yeah, And and so I think it looks different. It happens in various ways, but um,

when it does happen, it's it's it's cool. And I'm just I'm just trying to really get into the pattern of making sure that I write it down when it does happen, because I have found that when I don't, I forget it and then it doesn't have the same value. Paul Cartney talks a lot about that. He's he's one of my my favorite, one of my favorite human beings.

And he talks a lot about how he wrote yesterday if he woke up with just that melody in his head and he wrote let it Be from a dream from his his late mother coming to him, and I love that. I love those stories. Oh wow, I didn't know that about let it Be. That's cool. Oh yeah, So it's so interesting to see that the role of subconscious plays in songwriting is just so cool to me.

I think it's so interesting. Yeah, you know, Prince always talks about and I've heard other people like Jim Morrison used to always say, um that like it feels sometimes he feels like the heavens are just or whether it's the heavens or the universe or whatever coming through him and he's like it's not. He would he would say, you know, it wasn't even me writing it. It was like someone coming through me and writing this song and it just came out and it's like it was like

it was meant to be. Like basically, you're like this vessel of creativity from whatever other universe or you know, things out there, which I always thought was so cool. I'm waiting for that moment too. It's so it will happen, Oh my god. I mean, it's just yeah, I really do think that. I mean, music has been such a part of human history seemingly since the beginning, and people talk about it being some kind of linked to the divine, and you know, as as music fans, you're tempted to

believe that, you know. I mean, there's something I want to ask you, what kind of role does storytelling play on your music? Because I know that's not a necessity for a hit, but I get the sense that for you that a good story is just as important is a good melody. Yeah. Well, I mean in my day to day life, I'm a storyteller, for better or for worse.

My friends would tell you, like, for the longest time, I was going to call the EP long story short because it's a joke with my friends that I'll be like, long story short and then I'll tell the longest story ever and yeah, thank you. Well it might well, yeah, we'll see it might be used in another way, but um, thank you. I yeah, I am very much a storyteller.

I think that that's what drew me to country music more than anything else, is the stories that you know are told through country music, like unlike any other genre.

I think country music has the best stories, and you know, from as long as it goes back, you know, they were taught, you know, I guess, and and like when I was growing up listening to those stories is the thing that that's where like, that's the thing that invokes the most feeling and the thing that I think can really help people, I guess, is hearing a full story and seeing how it can relate to their own lives or or in some way shape or form or just

to hear the story is is really cool. I mean, I think that while my while my production is maybe a little more pop sole leaning, the sticking to the storyteller aspect is very important to me. And it's just yes, the way I like to write. Have there been some artists that you know that made you see the power

of storytelling and songs? I know you mentioned people like Shania Twain in the past and Atlanta's more set completely and I actually I never bring this one up, but Don Henley is a very big inspo for me, and I feel like his his storytelling. I mean he's not I wouldn't say country artist, but he is a great storyteller and just a great lyricist. And I think, um, he's just someone that can tell a story in such

a way. I mean Joni Mitchell too, Like I feel like there's just deep meaning and metaphors in what they write about and just a way that's like it's just it makes you feel less alone in the world or something I don't know, and and so I think that, yeah, that's just a very important also aspect of music for me and sharing my own music is is that you know what I was talking about one of these days earlier, and just the fear of talking about my parents going

through a divorce and having them hear it. Which when I did play it for them, they were they loved it and they were completely fine with it and it was all okay. But had I had a song like that growing up to listen to when I was going through it would have been so helpful. And so I think that, you know, that's what I meant by music being able to heal, just help us in any ways. Oh absolutely, man, it's like that. Ever see Almost Famous?

Oh please, my favorite? You know we never you get lonely, go down to the record store, you see your friends. I mean, I think that we all had that period in our lives, and I think there's a little piece of us that's still has that. You know us too, it's we connect the music in that way completely. Oh that's the best movie. Oh my god. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, you know, I'm a music journalist and that that movie is probably se Yeah, yeah, I mean probably.

I'm sure I'm not alone in that, but uh yeah, totally. But have you had the chance to meet or perform with with any of these these formative figures in your

musical development. I know you were just on the Kelly Clarkson Show recently, so that that's that story is cool actually because um, one of these days when I wrote it, Um, we for whatever reason, they wanted that they really liked the song, and they were like, do you mind if we pitch this Kelly Clarkson is looking for us song and Kelly Clarkson's looking and I was like, I mean, it was such a personal song to me. But also I was like, but if Kelly Clarkson wants it, let's go.

Um and so or like we'll see. I don't know, you know, I was, I feel bad saying that now because it is like my song, and but but I you know, Kelly Clarkson is one of my biggest heroes and long time, like I don't know, she's the American idol, so uh, you know, for more than one way. But but anyway, she ended up turning it down because and I guess she said, like this song is it's it's too personal, like I can't sing it, like I can tell that it's a person, this girl should sing it.

And so when she came when I came on the show and she saw that I was like on the guest list. She I guess remembered the song and was like, oh, this is so cool this this girl pitched me the song like however long ago. So it was a really cool full circle moment. Oh my god, that's so cool. Yeah yeah, um yeah, it was cool for sure, especially just because she is such a such an inspiration to me. UM. But yes, to answer your question, I UM, I got to perform uh last summer with Kelsey Ballerini and the

Jonas Brothers, which was really freaking cool. And then I also got to write with egg Usalia and um was on her most recent album and she ended up featuring me on one of the songs. And then she was featured on one of my songs, which was really cool and something I never anticipated happening at all because you know, country and wrap, but now once I guess, it's happening, and it's happening more often than not. Now, this is such a a question that I'm it's such a boring question,

so curious how you answered. Given all your different influence, did you have any dream collaborators, like people that you're just dying to sing with, work with, write a song with, anything, so many, so many. I mean I could the list could go on. But I mean, justin Timberlake is a big one, just because I feel like he has such the country pop thing and I just think he's such a legend and I love all his music. Um. Rihanna is one just because I adore her and wish I

was her. UM. And then you know, I think Shania Twain would be a huge one. UM. She's like I feel like, if I the new music that I've been writing, I feel like it's very nineties country Shanai a reminiscent. So I don't know. That's that's definitely a big dream. You mentioned Rihanna. I have to say your version of Love on the Brain so good, so good. I feel like it's like a totally underappreciated song of hers too. I love that song. I couldn't agree more. I think

it's one of her very best. It's just so good. I love that whole album. Yeah, Anti, Yeah, Oh my god's good covered like Tame and Paul and stuff. That's the best. I love that album. I I think I speak for the whole world when I'm when I say that we want more Rihanna music. Yes, Yeah, I mean, I you're I mean that the songs that you used to cover, they're just so interesting because there they are so very I mean, you've got John Mary had Arianna Grande, TLC,

the Chain Smokers. I mean, how do you have any ones on the hori Ezes and that you're just you know, in the pipeline that really want to cover. I want to do some more. Casey Musgraves, she's you know, that's another person I'd love to collaborate with along with Oh. I can't believe I didn't mention Chris Stapleton because I've covered so many of Yeah, but yeah, I I think, um, yeah, I need to get back in my cover game. I was.

I was doing so many so like a while ago, and now I've just been so focused on the original music. But it is so fun to do those covers and to just make them your own. I've been I've been trying to learn on guitar. It's it's pretty hard to play for me, which I'm not a great shop player, but I can get by. Um, but James Taylor, Um, you've got a friend. Yeah, his stuff is hard because it like sounds simple, but like when you try to do it, it makes no sense. Yeah, and it's all

like weird tuning. Yeah, I mean I I can. I can play the very uh dumbed down simplified version, but I'm trying to like, actually, sure it's amazing. It's I promise it's not. But yeah, but yeah, that one soon to come. So yeah, keep an eye out for you. Got a friend azing. Um, I have a really weird question. You're gonna hang up on me for this question? I have read. I saw an interview recently where you said that you were a cessed with ghost stories and having seances.

I got to hear about this. I need my My step mom is a raicky master and and does drum journeys and things of that nature. So I got to hear some sance stories. I am so into this. God, I mean, I will not hang up on you. You'll I'll be calling you in the middle of the night. No, I this is my when my when I said I was a storyteller, these are the types of stories that I love to tell because I well, I don't know.

I might get in trouble for this, but I I swear and I've always known, at least believed that I have a sixth sense because I've had just so many weird things happened to me, um, like ever since I was little, and I've just like been oddly obsessed with ghosts and scary I mean ghost and scary movies. But then I went through a phase of like every single weekend having a seance and like trying to do like light is a feather, stiff as a board, like levitating

and like all that stuff and like just weird. My point where my parents were like maybe concerned, but no, like I've just had I feel like there's there's just been plenty of instances where I can walk into a room and be like this place is haunted, and I'm just I mean, I'm not going to tell the story now because I feel like it's maybe not the time, but offline, sorry, I'll tell you a really weird story that happened to me um in my grandma's house when

I was growing up. Okay, well we'll say that we'll revisit. But to bring it to bring it back to to the music, is there a I guess you kind of touched on this earlier talking about Prince's view of music, but do you is there a superstitious element to your writing do you is there, Like it's got to be this time of day, it's going to be in this room, it's gonna be this instrument. I gotta have a cup of tea. You know what, whatever it is, there's superstitions

for you. Like when it comes to um for sure. I mean I wouldn't say as much as UM when I were so like I have weird things with time, like like I mean, I think a lot of people are like do the eleven eleven thing. But then I started doing this weird thing with eleven twelve where I felt like, like when I used to record my covers,

this is so bizarre, but it's a good question. Um, Like when I used to when I know I'm saying, when I used to record covers, I would like be obsessive because I'm a perfectionist, and I would just obsessively like do them over and over and over until like they were clearly getting worse because like my voice was

getting more tired. But then like if for some reason the song would end, like if the cover would last like to one minute in eleven minutes or like to twenty two or three thirty three, and it was like all lined up, I just have a weird thing with like angel numbers, So I'd be like, I would be like, oh, that's the one because it's the timing was three thirty three, so that has to be it. And I feel like that's a sign from like the universe telling me that

that's that's the cover I'm supposed to choose. It's so weird. But yeah, so like I have weird things with time, and like my song, my most recent single, more Me Is is two is two minutes and twenty two seconds long, and so I was like obsessed with that, and so I'm convinced that for whatever reason, like that's the song because it's two and it's We're in two and so you know, so all these things. Yeah, and and two two two is like an angel number. So yeah, I'm

just have a weird things numbers. Are you a rabbit rabbit person or rabbit rabbit rabbit depending on your school per sex? And also that I won't if I if I talk before is that that's that's what it is. Yeah, you can't. That's the first words out of your mouth to the point where I will. I would like stay up until midnight if I knew it was coming, so that I would make sure to say it so that it was good luck for the rest of the month. Well, I guess my, my my last questions was such a

joy talking. I want to take up too much more your time. But I might might have mentioned this earlier. I am somebody who I love music with all my heart, and I have never in my life been able to actually write a song. I can play a number of different instruments, it just isn't It's just something I've never been able to tap into it myself. And I was

just wondering. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that I feel that same way, and also probably think, you know what, I'm never gonna I'm never gonna make a living out of it. So why should I bother? Why should I try to write a song and kind of talk themselves out of it? Which I think is very sad. I always wanted to ask you for somebody like me who's having a hard time at age thirty four getting started writing, Um, what would you say? How would you you help people like me sort of break

on through and and express themselves musically? Well, I I bought a really good book called I think it's called The Art of the art of music or the art of writing. I forget what it is, but it's like

a beginner songwriting book. And I know there's a bunch of them now out um, but there there are a bunch of like and I'm sure you can even just google it, but there are like good ways that you can basically just like start like as a beginners if you if you don't know where to begin or how to like figure out a concept or what you can do. There's a lot of there's a lot of great tools online or in bookstores wherever, um that will help you sort of like step by step go through the formula

I guess of starting to write a song. And I think I find those to be very helpful. I mean I've used them a lot, I think even if I'm even if I'm stuck, because you know, I get writer's blocked all the time. And that's why I said, like I had to stop writing for a minute. Oh all,

I mean, yeah, it doesn't. That's why I was saying, like, when the creative moments happen, that's when I'm like, oh, I gotta do it, because especially in country where it's so concept driven and there's all these like twists, especially like at the end of the choruses, there's like these brilliant twists, and so then I get very obsessed with finding those, Oh, let me find this play on words like,

for instance, Casey Musgraves space cowboy. You can have your space cowboy, you know, like genius things like that that I get so mad that I didn't write that song. But you know, I get obsessed with that, and then I can't even write and I write anything because I'm

like obsessed with the concept of it. Um So I think, like, you know, I take a lot of notes in my phone, so I feel like anytime you feel like, oh, maybe that could be like a cool title, you know, like my friend Adam and I all the time will be in conversation and he'll he'll say something and then we're both like, is that a song? Is that a song? And so we just have like this this list. We have now an absurd list of just like I think it's like I don't even know how long, but of

just potential concepts or titles or whatever. And and then when we actually do end up sitting down and writing, we'll go through it and be like, Okay, what one would make the most sense and how could we make this like what would the story be here? Basically? So like Sweetheart, for example, that came from I Still see the sweet in your Sweetheart, and we he and I wrote that together. And I think just sitting down and talking to so I would encourage you to also maybe

find someone else to write with. It's really helpful to co write. Um. I always think two heads are better

than one. And UM, so yeah, if you have, you know, somewhere to start, I think that's going through those tools and like it'll help you be like here's an idea, let's now web it into what this could be and how we could bring a story out of this, and now write down three you know, senses that come from this word, and then you know you can kind of like directed into that and then I don't do play an instrument for me badly, Yeah, but but that's that's

the start. And I mean you don't even need I mean I started out without any you know, I don't think you need accompaniment. You can just you know, make up melodies and I always voice note things into my phone, just little melodies, and then you can kind of like you know, a lot of times the creative process is always different. But you know, a lot of times you'll just start with like a melody like lotty dotty dotty dotty do, and then you try to fit words into

what could work for that melody. And there's so many different ways you can go, and so many people have different methods of how they start or start a song or whatever. But I think there's, yeah, there's plenty of If you google, like how to write a song, I bet you could find a million a million different ways and different tools and like what works for various people

that could be helpful. I love the conversational element you mentioned because one of my one of my all time favorite records is pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, and so many of those songs were written just based on Brian Wilson and his lyricists would sit down and have these six hour conversations about life and love and everything, and that was where God only knows, or Caroline know, or wouldn't it be nice? Would all come from oh completely?

I mean, that's that is what I always say, is where so I have this song which is coming, I can mention it because it's going to be out this summer. It's called if I hadn't been drunk. And basically I was on a songwriting trip this this past winter with like five friends and we were up in Colorado and we had finished writing for the day and started drinking

and eating. We were making dinner and we were all having wine and I think I can't remember who it was that said it, but I think maybe my friends Cecy and we were like someone said like, well, if I hadn't been drunk, I wouldn't have done this, and I was like, well, if I hadn't been drunk, I probably wouldn't have even like ended up hooking up with Barren, who's now my fiancee, and um, and then we were like, wait,

is that a song? And we were all like, if I hadn't been drunk, I hadn't I wouldn't have done this, and I would have done this, And my friend Adam was like, oh my god and runs over and grabs the guitar and we're all like sitting at the dinner table and we were just like, Okay, what would the song be? And then like we all started writing it and it was That's the beauty to me of those writing trips too, is because that's that's how like, that's how the oldies people used to do it. You know,

they would go to cabins. That's like you look at Queen, they go and you know all it all comes out of those real conversations. And that's what makes those songs so great because they're so relatable because they actually came out of thin air and they weren't people sitting around trying to figure out what the best thing was. You know, a lot of life in those songs. You're right, Yeah, led Zeppelin, Queen the Band, and Dylan moving up state to Woodstock and yeah, it's a totally Oh well, I'm

going to take all of this advice to heart. Sofia, thank you so much for for your time today, and most importantly, thank you for your music. It's such a joy talking. Oh my gosh, you two that really really enjoyed this. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Inside the Studio, a production of I Heart Radio. For more episodes of Inside the Studio or other fantastic shows, check out the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast