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new album. It's a comeback of sorts after nearly five years of pursuing outside projects. Their new single I'm So Sad as a party song about feeling miserable, which, let's face it, is an apt theme for these exceedingly weird times. They also teamed up with the utterly Unclassifiable one Guests for the track Lonely Machines, and also recently dropped a cover of Ariana Grande's Tattooed Heart, which is as the

kids say, straight fire. I'm so happy to welcome Nat and Sean, who together are known as three oh three. Hey man, thank you and and Sean, thank you so much for being here. Guys, three oh three are back. The only good thing to come out of twenty. In my opinion, your upcoming album is called Need. If I believe I have that right, your first album in four years since Night Sports in Why Now? What made you decide the time is right? Well, let's see what? Why

Why did we do it now? Sean? Because people need music? You see what I did there? I don't know, you know what? It was interesting because I think Sean and I work so much, kind of collectively and individually on other people's music, and on writing and producing music for other artists, and and so if anything, you know, we we came together in February right before the kind of the pandemic hit and started to write new stuff for three or three and then when things got locked down.

If anything, I don't know, for us, it kind of provided us with just this beautiful opportunity to to come back to our music and focus on that and um and make a full record. So, you know, I think, at least for in our own circumstance, if there's one thing that can that's positive from it, it's allowing us that space and time. And I hear the title need, and I cour think back to the title of your first album, Want. What is the relationship between those two

albums to you and those titles. You know, I feel like we could sit here and make the most intelligent correlation between those two. But you know, we just thought want and then we're like, need would look really cool in the same font as well. Uh, same amount of letters, same amount of letters. It's sort of the same thing when we did want. Like I remember actually that thought process.

I think your brother was just yeah, I was. I was like sending my brother kind of demos from the studio and he at one point he just said want, like you wanted, wanted the full record, and we're like, oh, all right, let's just call it record. We're like, we're like surprised that you know those moments when you just the word, like you say it over and over and

you're like, that is just like road road row. It Like it was one of those things where we're like want, want is such a weird word, and this makes us sound like very intelligent individuals, But we have same sort of thought process, and I think if we're I don't know if we are digging into it. It's like we

did want a little bit of that full circle. Like we've learned so much over the course of what is it like eleven years since Want came out at this point, so like we've learned so much, but we also wanted to like capture some of that early spirit of us not thinking too much about charts or radio singles and

just like really just getting in and having fun. And as you can tell with the title of the album, that's sort of like as much thinking as we kind of wanted to do as far as creating the songs, like we wanted to trust the muscle memory of what we've created as far as just like our gut of having fun and being inclusive and making the music. That kind of is the spirit of three or three. It's like a primal thing too, I mean want to me. It seems like very like like something of one's youth,

like just whatever you want and it needs. Seems so much more like adult too. It seems like a very primal you got it, you you are in tune with our thinking you it's basically just it's dad stuff. I mean that the teaser for the album is so cool because it features all this awesome old footage of if you guys forming it Warped tour and I think like two thousand eight. It really seemed to highlight the journey that you guys have been on from from then to now.

And I think that comes through in the title too. I mean, yeah, it's been it's been amazing. You know, It's it is kind of a full circle thing because we're we're back with the initial record label that we signed with back in two thousand and eight, which is our first deal, and photo finished records back with kind of you know, on on that more indie scale where things are or feel more grassroots, things feel more of

a partnership in that sense. And you know, when we made one in two thousand and eight, we were so blissfully ignorant about so much stuff. Like I remember being in the studio in Maryland and uh, producer we were working with. You know, we we've always producer around stuff, but we we kind of collaborated on finishing and and orchestrating and producing some stuff with Matt Squire at the time.

And I remember Matt saying that a song that we had called Colorado Sunrise, He's like, oh, this could be your second single, And I was like, I didn't really understand what he meant, because I DJ for forever and hip hop DJ's and kind of turntables dj and I remember you could buy the single and it was just cheaper, and I was like, oh, that's for DJs who don't want to buy the full record, who want the acapella

and thesment. But I didn't understand what that a single was, like the flag bearer of your whole project and stuff, and so you know, I think that, and then you know, coming out of that the next three years we spent on the road and and kind of culminated everything with with a number one song at a pop radio and don't trust me, and so I think that, you know, we we I think on this record for the needs stuff and and really Sean and I coming back together

without any sort of pressure was amazing because we're, you know, we're trying to overtly and subconsciously recapture that sense of just making music to have fun with it. And whether it's it's a sad song or whether it's a it's you know, it's an overtly funny song, or or an angry song or whatever, it's just that sense of of creative freedom and having fun with the music is I think it's it runs as a pervasive link through all

this new music. Well, speaking of singles, your new single I'm So Sad seems to be made custom made for early one. It's basically that, you know, there's so many party songs about feeling good, but this, to me is a party song about feeling bad. Essentially. Can you tell me a little bit about where that came from? I

think it's like it's a really awful message for now. Also, just before we get into it, you can get that for either or a dollar twenty nine on the Apple Store, which is cheaper than the full record in case you want to buy just a single. It's gonna be our second single as well. So we and uh, yeah, I think you know, we actually got in. Uh. We were in Los Angeles and we reached out to our old

friend Benny Blanco, uh, producer and writer and artist. We just wanted to get together and sort of again rekindle sort of like this flame that we built during want and even uh in Streets of Gold and stuff like that. And we went over to his place and this was pre pandemic, Like I think it must have been marked like February and March, yeah, of last year. So like we went over to his house and a lot of it.

I mean, if anyone you know has heard of Benny's process, a lot of it is just kind of like just sitting around and making fart jokes and and hanging out. And it was, you know, it was fun to be around him again because we've we've definitely hung out with him, but we haven't necessarily gotten to the creative process and

we're just writing off the cuff Nat made. Uh. He had this guitar sequence sort of that he just started and then I think I just like I think I just yelled that out like I'm so sad and uh, and it was just kind of that that avert like saying of that, Like it wasn't like some clever way

of saying it or something like that. And it was weird to have it over this like anthemic part because we're so used to sad song sounding sounding like Elliott Smith or like Death Cab or something, you know, so it's like this kind of like you know, you're used

to these minor chords and slow, melodramatic stuff. And I was like, you know what, I kind of like the idea of you know, not feeling bad about like you said, like we have so many and it didn't like we've been in the songwriting thing forever and there's so many sessions where you just feel like you're kind of down that day, but you're just trying to write like this ingenuous, like disingenuous, like party fun song. You're like Today's the greatest day of ever, and you're just like that's not

true too. So I think that it was nice to like sit there and and kind of announce in a very fun way, just like I'm so sad, and you know, I don't feel bad about it because it's a time and place and yeah, so that's kind of the the

m O of that one. And we took it back to Colorado when we were producing it up and kind of reworked everything, and I think that the mantra was to do, you know, honor to those feelings of sadness, but also approached them with a sense of fun, which might seem kind of weird and crazy, but I think it's kind of, you know, it lines up with a lot of the mantra that we've had with our music and dealing with serious topics but dealing with them in a fun way, in a collective way, in a way

that hopefully people can smile about and and have fun and and represent some of that energy. Yeah. I mean the mantra that I keep hearing now just during lockdown is you know, it's okay to not be okay, it's okay to feel weird because everything is weird right now. So I mean it really seems to go hand in hand with that message. The timing of it is really perfect. Yeah, I mean it is. I think everyone obviously across different spectrums,

is dealing with their their mental health. And I think for me, at least in my experience, it was like I felt the worst when I tried to fight off things that didn't feel okay, like if I felt sad or something like that. I was like, I feel worse when I try and like make this not a reality. So I don't know. Again, in the three or three spirit, like we took something and not being self and indulgent

about being like let's get sad. It's like, you know, sometimes you just feel sad, and in that moment we did and it's still like fun. You can like laugh cry, you know, you can like smile cry at the same time, you know, like have that smile on your face to have a tear coming down, so yeah you could. Yeah, No, it's my it's my contact it's like my contact lenses. Like I feel like Robin Williams was the master of the smile, and that's like what I always think of thin. Yeah, yeah,

that's a he's a yeah that guy. Yeah, I mean, shut up, shut up more than Mindy based here in Boulder, Colorado. Yeah, oh my god, that's right. Yeah. Well, how much of the album was actually record? Did in in in the lockdown? Because you're both together and bolder? Right? Yeah? We were. I mean, you know, now we're we're spending some time together.

Sean actually just got back into town, and we're being careful, you know, we're we're kind of bubbled up with our families and when we get together, we're we're getting tested and stuff. But initially in the lockdown, I mean, you know, we were taking it very very seriously, and obviously still are.

But Shaun and I were actually working remotely, like sending stuff back and forth, and we were on a zoom call like we are right now, you know, trying to write and that's what we've been doing as songwriters and producers for the last year. Essentially is is doing that and you deal with it. You know, it's it's interesting. I think everybody's finding new ways to work and in a profession that's so highly creative and collaborative and based

on kind of vibes off off each other exactly. Yeah, it's it's hard and it's it's interesting to do it. But Shaun and I, you know, recorded some of the final vocals that are on the record by just sending stuff back and forth and and and kind of you know, making the best of what's around. And I think that's that that in itself, at least in mean producing the songs.

I think that was a kind of parkening back to those old days too, when like in terms of gear, we didn't have anything, you know, we didn't have any

access to anything. We didn't really know digital. But I think it was, you know, it's a little bit liberating to, like, I guess I've been schooled so much to want everything to be the cleanest, most high fidelity thing you can, and then I think it's refreshing to come back to be like, Okay, this is what's around, let's make it sound dope, and let's let's you know, less is more in terms of kind of doing things. I think it was you know, we we kind of have since realized that.

I think in a lot of those early days, our first thought was our best thought. At least that's what like we maybe can rationalize it as you know, looking back on it. Like in our songwriting process, there wasn't too much second guessing. I think it's because maybe we didn't know anymore. We just dug the stuff that we

were doing. But I think in that same sense we were trying, we tried to come come back to that in this process in terms of being separated and and distant, and then also in terms of the vibe of the song. I think it was just less second thing and just more going with your first kind of intention. That a gutt roll kind of energy that we had on most of the stuff. And it's tough for us like to do the zoom thing because I think so much of our collaboration is like pheromone based. Uh, We're like we

really go off each other's aromatic presence. So as I had to get the nat, he actually was nice enough to make me a gnat candle that I could like, and I worked from a sent him. I sent him like a pillow that I just sprayed down with some of my my cologne and my musk. You're gonna make him a Shawn scratch and sniff now to like, yeah, keep going? Did you just make our new merch our new teacher so gross? And I was like a Chilian

uh and coffee. Basically, it does seem like the sort of home recording stuff is the whole back to the basement approach probably does take you back to your roots in a lot of ways, just by necessity because of everything that's going on. I think NAT's happy place, regardless if if it wasn't. He always wants to be in the basement. Man, That's where he wants to make stuff. He's he's a basement voice, basement dweller. No, you know, we started this way. We started at the University of Colorado.

We're just um students working hard at our education and having fun with music and just starting in my basement. You know. Progressively we're we've we've done pieces of all of our records in basements and boulders. It's a basements and boulder. Remember when you remember one of the first days that we were working on one of our records, I remember you brought your dog in here and your dog laid down like a hot six inches of dog on, which is really weird cause your dog is the best dog.

I think she was just Silver was just like she wanted us to know who is who is Bossom? Everyone's a critic? Yeah exactly, She's like, you know what, I might be your dog, but I'm not really shout all over our music. I mean, how has your songwriting process evolved since you know, making music in your dorm at the University of Colorado in two thousand three? Like, what's what's that shift been like making there? Or is it

state essentially the same? I feel like it's been like such a journey to come back to the same place. Like I think you you take everything that you learn, but it is a circle because I think you you go away, Like I think there was a long time that I fought a lot of what Nat was talking about, like that instinct, like that first thought or feeling that you have um when you come into a session. You

fight it because you overthink things. You start thinking of the context, You start thinking about if you're writing with another artist, you start thinking about what the label wants, what works on the charts. It's just like, you know, at some point you have to learn how to unthink and just kind of enjoy the experience and and and make a song. If you're working with an artist, but they have like a direction that the A and R tells you, like when you go in, don't you dare

do a song that's under one ten bpm? Like we need? And it's like it's hard to just shed that off and go you know what, who cares? Because a lot of times, and at least in my experience, you get this direction from A and R s and then you hear the first single and they're like, well, this guy came in and totally smashed it in a different direction. You're like, Okay, well it doesn't matter anymore. Let's just enjoy the process. Hey, you can't sing more than like

fifteen seconds of that, I don't think. I mean, it's this are you're gonna have to pay for the license? Did you write that? Did you write that that? Yeah? I wrote all of Metallica's early middle middle Yeah. I think, I mean, I think I've We've just come back, like or at least personally speaking for songwriting, it's like I've come back to the place where I just want to have fun with it and I don't want to overthink it. And you might leave the day with a song that

might not see the light of day. But you might as well enjoy that process too, you know, because if you fight it and you don't enjoy the process either, you're also gonna have a song that doesn't see the light of day. By by the odds of it, that's how the songwriting works. So you might as well enjoy the process because that's all that matters to get you

to wherever you're gonna go. So is it easier for you to write three or three stuff because that's sort of external pressure of trying to put yourself into another artist is out the window. It's an interesting man. It's it's an interesting question because you know, as I mentioned, we've done so much writing for other artists, and I think it's amazing because you you work on so many

different things, and especially you know, producing and writing. You work in different genres and you know, whether it's a hip hop act or a country act or I've done scoring for movies and and and video games and stuff, and I think that it's kind of it is easier in the sense that like it's your own stuff, and and the tangent between making the music and releasing the music is there. It's like whatever, it's essentially kind of you know, whatever you want to do, you do, which

is amazing. But the other part is like you you kind of do have to find out what you are again and like find kind of return to the mantra of what you're doing. You know, we keep talking about this mantra of of of three or three, and I think as we've gotten older, it's kind of become more clear that it's about fun, it's about inclusiveness, it's about energy, it's about you know, sonically, it's about pushing some boundaries and having things be a little edgy but but also

inclusive on the sonic side. And I think that, um, it's interesting. It's it's you know, on on one hand, it's liberating, and I think for me at least, it takes it takes like a session or two to get back into and be like, Okay, yeah, this is this is what we're doing, and this is how fun it can be and how amazing it can be. And then once once we're in that groove, it's just it's so

much fun. Yeah, because I think there's a time where we actually when you're talking about writing four artists, there's a time when we are writing for the artist three or three rather than just embodying it. Like that's the tough part is you're like, what would three or three do or what would people expect? And it's I think at the at some point you just gotta go, what do we have fun doing? In this case, we're not through three. We're actually just the mail, the models and

the media trained guys. Is this like the Andrew w k Hey, it would be I know, like slip Knot has the best idea. They just have the mask you can kind of just like cycle through member we could.

We had for I forget what record it was for for Omens or Night Sports or someone's, but we had an idea to just higher like kind of just better looking versions of ourselves, which is not that hard, but find these dudes who who would just be so charming and like so nice, and they would do all of our interviews and all of our public appearances and all that stuff, and we would just do the music. And then we actually did a photo shoot where we found we found and it was so weird that we were

just like, all that's a horrible idea. We can't do that, But in theory it could have been awesome. It turns out it's more work to micromanage like models of yourself than to just do the stuff you can't You can't feed them either, you know, it's harder to micromanage the models that you find to play yourself down to see yourself.

So take that. If there's one thing you've learned from me to by well, when you're not making music or micromanaging models that you've cast to play you, what do you What have you been doing the last year to just like relax, unplug, keep your feet on the ground. It's been so difficult for everybody. Well, now I can speak for Nat because he's Uh, I've never had as

good as sour dough bread as this man has. Just like every other idiot in confinement turned a sour dough bro, it's not like every other it is because your sour dough is is I have to say it's my mom hates sour dough and she's like not, so I gotta bake another loaf for these guys soon. Uh. Yeah, it's been that. It's been hanging out with family, um, which I'm super tight with anyways, and then this experience has just been just amazing to lean on, you know, the

people around you, the people you love. Physical activity. Boulders like an amazing place and we've always known that and kind of rediscovering some of that out of here, just mountain biking, hiking and doing all that outdoor stuff. Let's see, I can speak for Sean. You're getting you're getting jacked super jack gains or what tons of steroids as well. Just um. Sean has been starting a health and wellness fitness center at his house. Oh, I guess yeah. I

was like, where are you going with that? I guess I have become a bit of like at my place in California, I have like I've kind of just became like I've I've kind of made my own little yeah, health and wellness. It's like a spawn a Jim. I'm actually getting certified as a Ploti's instructor, so I have my own reformer there. I've been into this sort of like ice immersion therapy, so I have an ice bath that I have there. I have a Peloton bike. I mean, if you don't you know, I want to be safe.

I don't want to have to go anywhere to do any of these things. So it's it's nice to have it all in one stop shop. You know, all of our hobbies are very boring, as you can tell. I can tell you when you're just like, what are you sleeping over there? No, I was gonna ask that's that sounds really cool. I wanted to ask you. My girlfriend for my birthday got me an hour in a sensory deprivation cher. Yeah, it's like altered state. Yeah, there was.

I don't have that in in the Sean relaxationan is what I call it relaxationan uh Spas and Resorts Occupancy one. I do not have the sensory deprivation, but I have done it a few times, so it's like kind of this weird. At least the one I went to is like this big egg seems like you're like in this alien sleep pod and you get in. It's super sailing, like super salt water, so you float like you're very buoyant and the water is warm, and it's kind of like it's like you're back to h did you did

you pee your pants? Yeah? I wore my pants into that you would know you don't wear pants in there, I'd be scared my ears ring ring and kind of I've gotten used to it, but i'd be a little Yeah you you put in the ear plugs in it, but you definitely yeah, I honestly it's yeah, I loved it. I don't have the deprivation tank at my house, but I'm a psycho that has an container with just ice in it, and I get in that almost everywhere and where and when Jordan, when you're doing it, I think

clearly this weekend, Yeah, I enjoy it for you excited. Yeah, I'm excited to see sounds and uh and here to use the bathroom before you go see Yeah, yeah, yeah, it can get a little weird. I also want you joined cameo with all your your pros proceeds going to environmental causes and that just it seems like the coolest thing because everybody, you just make people so happy. Like we got my girlfriend's MoMA a cameo from Kenny G

for Christmas and it just it made her Christmas. What's been the craziest or most memorable cameo interaction that you you know, it's kind of it's wild to us because I think we've always just considered ourselves just regular people and so that idea of that interaction bringing someone joy or something like that, it has always been a little

bit crazy. I mean, it's awesome and it's great, but um, it's a little in congress to us, which is why at least for for our meet and greets at our shows and and initially we we kind of held off doing Cameo because we thought it's a little weird to like pay to meet someone, like I think for us, pay to come to our show, pay us us do what we do is you know, as our for a living, whether it's you know, writing music or or playing music

live or something like that. But I think when the opportunity came to donate those proceeds to Cameo from Cameo to the Sierra Club, it made sense to us and just try to raise money for a causing Since then it's been it's actually been amazing because it's I don't know, it's fun for us, and it um we've gotten some feedback from the cameras that we've recorded people being so happy and like so nice and hitting hitting us up on Instagram being like you know that that made their day,

whether we're all having a tough year, and I think that, you know, if anything like that we can do improve someone's day, it's it's amazing because it's a small thing for us. I think, you know, we gotta drink about sixteen coffees to get the requisite energy up. We haven't done like the I don't know why everyone drives while they're recording their cameras, because that seems like pretty irresponsible. But I want to do one. I want to fake one.

And I shouldn't say this, but I want to fake one when we're driving and then all of a sudden, it's just like an explosion, like a Michael Bay movie. Yeah, you know, I gotta say we've gotten, like, you know, I think everyone who reviewed we've gotten, like, I don't know, forty five star reviews, and then there's one one star review and I'm like, I wonder what, Like I want to read this because I wonder why they're so bummed, and they're like, my friends wanted you to roast me

and you didn't dig into me at all. Why would you even put that you have a road stoption in here when you can't writ me to stress? I'm like, wow, this is like, oh man, were too nice? We got we got this from being too like I wanted you to destroy me. I didn't want to feel a thing ever again, yeah, I guess we didn't really answer it. But the weirdest one was our manager's fiance got him

a cameo from his own band. That happened. Yeah, oh nice. Yeah, So I mean whatever, they just they donated how much.

That's funny. We've set the price point and uh, you know I I like you said, there's it's fun to go on there and get one from Kenny G. But I don't think we necessarily realized the market because there there's like people who are like I was an extra in the background of Transformers, the Made for Lifetime movie version, like and we're just like, I mean, because like that said, like for us, it's about donating this money and uh doing the cause and it's you know, excess a couple

of minutes. It's still fun. It's it's it's been fun. And I think it makes it fun when you realize that, like the pressure is a bit off because you can have fun with it and know that the money is going to do a good place. So well, speaking of Christmas miracles as I did. A moment ago. You put out a Christmas song called Kisseltoe, and the video blew

my mind. It's like old school Nickelodeon claimation. And then I was further blown away to learn that you made that yourselves, right, my man, went full beautiful mind on that thing. Speaking of things that you do during quarantine like that, if you even saw my house during that time, my whole living room, because I was learning, I mean, I jumped. I told Nat when we had that, we were like talking about videos and how we could do anything safely as far as visuals, and I go, I

would love to try acclaimation. And I think was just like you sure, dude, Like I was all for it. Man, Yeah, no, I think I think people realize though, like necessarily how long that that might take. And for me, I was just like I got nothing but time. It took me a lot. I mean honestly though, it took me about two weeks all in, but I spent a lot of hours every day, and it was just about consistency, like about doing just a little every day and get it.

Like I would send ant and I'd be like this took me five hours to do, and it's like five seconds of movement, you know. And I have so much respect for like these movies that are fully I mean, obviously they probably have a crew of thousands of people, but there is such an artistry to Claimation. And I used to love a lot of that stuff too, like

MTV or early Nickelodeon sort of videos. It's nostalgic for me, but it was really fun to do, and I just kind of I didn't have a script like or a story board that I was going for, Like I would just be doing it and then I'd be like, oh, wow, this would be really fun to do, or like my hand would hit the camera in my frame would get all messed up and I'd be like, Okay, are we just going to roll with this, sir? Start over? And yeah. Nat was very supportive, our our label was very supportive.

It was fun to do, and I'm glad that I could put it into the world. And now he's got a very healthy clay fetish. Clay fetish. Hey, my name is claim Sean, your name is Oh my god, you're killing him with this. It's just easy. It's anything with T I O And what was the other one relax, relaxation. Every artist I talked to has been obviously extremely upset about not being able to tour, and I try to help in what little way I can by bringing up

sort of the downsides of touring. Hopefully that reminder softens the blow a little bit. Have you ever had any spinal tap style moments on the road, Like what's been like your biggest preconcert like post Constant against Club. Yeah, I mean we've both gotten injured, thankfully, nothing like life threatening or anything that's full enough the stage, a few falling off the stage of Bunch. I think it's just weak.

Our shows are based on energy, and that energy comes through a sonic energy and then a lot of physical energy too, and sometimes you just your party a little too hard and you kind of you kind of lose your footing. Um, But I think, I don't know. I mean, you know, touring is. It's interesting, man. It's it's definitely different when you're four than when you're in your thirties. And I think that you know, but that that's not I don't know. We can only assume. I mean, we're

we're still on our teams. So I'm just saying that from other bios that I've read, let's see craziest kind of lead up tour. I remember having to wake our drummer up because he was sleeping as we were our intro songs. I think for us, though, it's like spinal tap sort of. I mean, yeah, you think of like the getting lost this stage. Like we've definitely had those moments where we're like, oh, this isn't an arrow that

points the stage or stuff like that. We've had equipment fail, We've had a disco ball that nearly killed me, fall from the from the sky, we almost got kicked off of the It's I guess it's not really concert but sort of of the MTV v M a red carpet because they didn't think that we were telling Oh my god, They're like, hey guys, telling only here. We're like, all right.

The thing is is like, if you're this artist or band that think you're like really cool and you have this facade that falls away from you when something goes wrong, then that's like one of those moments. But for us, it's part of our narrative, like we embrace the weirdness or I mean, things inevitably go wrong on stage. Things are fun like but that's the magic of live music and performances. Like when Nat falls off the stage, it's not funny if he's hurt, but it's also kind of

part of the show. It's also kind of funny. Now, it's true, It's very true. I think we've never put up a facade of being anything else than we are, and that's kind of two regular dudes who you know,

just like to to rock a party. In our our perform especially our shows are much more about rocking a party and kind of curating a vibe and curating a fun time for people than a strict performance, and so if something goes wrong, it's kind of funny and it's kind of you know, I think we usually kind of embraced that and um bring the crowd into it, and you know, more than anything, those experiences in those shows kind of I think a lot of people to break

that facade and break that that kind of wall between artists and fan, performer and spectator. I think those are all kind of blended in with our with our operation. Well, uh, we got a month or so in NAT's basement here and just fully we call it locked in. You can see we got a green screen back here, shut out to Amazon. Um, Sean's gonna try to get his relaxed, say Sean spa enterprise, going yeah, I gotta make it at LLC and uh and pay myself somehow to just

you're gonna register and dater. I know it's so hard to plan in times like these, but but what do you have coming down the pike next? You know, it is interesting. I mean we we've have we've been like booked out, like we've kept pushing back dates that we

had in the UK and and stuff like that. And thankfully, everyone, i mean everyone is understanding because this is pretty universal other than like, you know, I saw like some random Instagram post of like Nashville, like some country singers having like a show, and I'm just like, I'm like, what is going on? Like, you know, we have so many friends and everyone who like survives on this business, whether

it's you know, merch people or tour managers. It's like, please just chill, like and so we can get back to this sooner. But you know, we're being patient, especially overly patient, like if we were given bad opportunity even to like play to a small capacity, Like we want everything and everyone to be safe as possible so we're willing to be patient and figure it out. We are

continuing to roll out songs. We're gonna have videos. I think we're we're figuring out something to do that's fun for our kind of local music holiday here called three oh three Day, hence the tie in. It's March three. Colorado is just such an amazing place for music in general. For touring music has been such an important market for us.

The NERF who operates a Nheart channel out here KTCL, has been amazing and you know, with our music, and so we're gonna figure out something fun to do there, may or may not involve the Red Rocks um Amphitheater that is legendary out here in Colorado. And you know, we're doing some remote performances. We do a lot of UM shows for the for the military and for universities and colleges and UM in the last gosh ten years, and so we're figuring out ways to do those remotely

UM for the time being. And you know, our hearts are just with with people and it's so tough for especially you know, for college kids and for younger kids who are going through this. So you know, we're we're really trying to find the best way to put a smile on people's faces, whether it's you know, sending a cameo or or you know, doing some some stupid TikTok stuff that we're doing just to try to try to put a smile on people's faces and try to connect

with people and keep all those strings connected. And I think, you know, we're just we just launched something called High Note where we're we'll be able to do um some performances for people and kind of custom made we'll we'll we'll slide in people's names. Yeah, and it's kind of like cameo, but it's a bit more focused on the actual performance of the music. And so we're we're gonna

keep all those avenues open. And I think, like Sean said that the second that things are you know, responsible in terms of in terms of doing live shows, we're we're back out there. Man. It's it's something that's so important and integral to what we do that we're you know, I mean, we're we're hurting without it too both. You know, it's it's kind of spiritually it's tough because it's it's

what you do. It's kind of a lot of what we define ourselves as artists and as people, so it's it's definitely hard, but I think we're we're finding ways to be creative. My my last question, it's been one I've been asking everybody and it's really been fascinating to see everybody's different responses. If you could snap your fingers and have it go back to twenty nineteen or whatever your definition of normal is, I guess I should say, no, more lockdown, the more pandemic. What would be the first

thing that you do? Places you go, people you hug. It's a very heavy question. I mean, where would you go? What would you do? It's funny. I I do love

the idea. Like some of my fondest memories of just being around is like it is like not in our crew before a show, having some drinks at a at a bar, and then going and playing a show and maybe getting drinks after, Like those are I think that's something I really miss, Like there's this communal quality and just like being around the people that you like to

be around. I guess the other part of it is like I'm kind of, you know, an extroverted introvert in some ways to like I would still probably I would be like, as soon as things open, I'm going I'm going crazy, and I'd still probably be like, I'm gonna hang out. It's go find the bat, patient patient zero. Bat. Oh, I'm not looking for that at that time. To change history. If you had a one chance to find the bat, I did not. Yeah, I haven't even thought about that that.

But then I would be patient zero. I would be the one that gets like, but then you's you know, do you take one for the team? My answer, I would find the bat, take one for the team. Butterfly effect too, would you What do you mean by taking I can't elaborate because that's not what you're that's exactly. Can't elaborate on the details at this time. I'm just gonna leave that there. You go in a sensory deprivation chamber and you get for two weeks, three weeks, come

out real, real pickled. I changed my answer. I'm going to send your frogs and I'm just gonna tie one on. Baby. I'm gonna do something that I've never done, which is getting the phone pit and just man. I would just go down to the floor to keys and just start rotting down there and the next thirty years, just listening to you know, be a pair it ahead, Yeah, rotten away in the corner booth as senior frogs Baby the

corner booth. That's that's the song right there, corner booth of Applebee's Fins to the left, Fins to the left, fins to the right. Now, Sean, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for your time today. It's been such a pleasure talking to you guys. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your beautiful sweater, thank you for your snake plant. Thank you for the window where we can see to the outside world. Yeah, thanks so much. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Inside the Studio,

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