ITP: Statement made as KU slaps Houston at the Phog

Well, congratulations to Kansas who got a nice, hard earned victory over another very worthy opponent, the Houston Cougars. We're gonna talk about that basketball game with all respect and dignity and everything aside, just kidding, what a bunch of fucking good I told you that was gonna happen. And look what happened at the fog Houston went in there and dropped one giant that wasn't even close, not even close. Kansas kind of dominated. They would have won by

thirty if they would have went by thirty, if LJ. Crior did and go Nukio in the second half. Yep, yeah, Nick has just posted in really big numbers plus one point five in the in our show opening notes, because holy crap, you know what, I understand that there's plenty of nerds that you got all your calculators, you got all your spreadsheets, and you might be a little turned off by the start of the show because Houston is still the number one team in the last fifty years of any level of

basketball. They are about three spots ahead of the ninety six Bulls. But at the same time, I am gonna enjoy our moment in the sunshine because that game. Numbers aside, stats aside that game went. How every game at the fog goes when a untested but looking all sexy opponent comes into Allen field House ready to challenge Kansas and they don't even last ten minutes before they've been KOed. How many times do you need to see that? And yet

the odds makers still made them a home dog. Yeah, and like we all thought this game would be closer, Like I have no idea. We've said this all season, but like no earthly clue why Houston had been favored on ESPN all season. They're favored by Vegas all week. It's as if these people have never watched Kansas play in this building before. Yep, Bill self has never lost to a top ten team as the lower ranked team. Fourteen to oh, fourteen to oh, definitely worthy of. And the thing

that I couldn't get over isn't the fact that the computers love Houston. They're a top five team still after this loss. I might challenge that a little bit, but I still think they probably are fine. You like Houston, you think they're a good team, that's cool, But they were playing a

top ten Kansas team. They were playing a seventeen and four Kansas team, And I don't understand how anybody that the number one team, the number two team, nobody should be favored over a Kansas team that's in the top ten, that still has a ton of things going forward. At Allen Field House, it was a complete I don't normally complain about like they were disrespected or whatever, but how could they not be disrespected? And they showed it because

they whipped Houston for forty straight minutes at the Fog. They're back in first place in the Big twelve, and we are here to talk all about it. This is gonna be our toxic podcast. I said that yesterday to Landon and and Nick, and either one of you pushed back. We're gonna be toxic on this show. So if you are in that questioning the numbers camp, like I know a few of the regular listeners are, this is gonna be one of your favorite shows. I am Ryan Landra, this is inside

the Paint. I'm the Toxic Avenger. I'm Kelvin Sampson's bag man. Are you who here? Is Kelvin Sampson's time out in the final twenty seconds down by thirteen? Anybody, anybody at all. That was great, But that was so weird. Man, fran loved it. I know Landon you didn't watch it because you were there. Fran loved it. He said, that's a timeout that says we'll see you on March ninth. Oh no, they're

gonna have to play them again. They may lose that game. But man, the way he said it, it's like it's supposed to send shivers down your spine. I don't know if they saw it, but Fran had his Houston Cougar costume head on. He did. He was righting the bench. Yeah, you could barely see you over the bench in the first place. Yeah, land And I don't know if you could see from your seats. Fran was wearing nothing at all except for the cougar head of the mascot.

That's the only thing he was wearing. Unfortunately, I had an upward angle of him too. So awesome, pretty pretty upsetting. Yeah. No, fran Franz said it was the most impressive half played by any team against any opponent this year. And I'm like, oh my gosh, are they playing one of John Wooden's UCLA teams? Like, good lord, they play Ryan. That is very on brand. For you to have Fran even say something positive about Kansas, and I know I was thinking about that, but everything

felt so backhanded, like yeah, it was like I can compliment. It's like, ohh Houston hasn't allowed this all season, Kansas has had their bad Yeah, it is a very overrating Houston comment. I agree. God, well, hey, you know what they can keep. ESPN loves it. Whatever. We will talk about Kansas winning because at some point you have to look at what happens on the court and less with the nerd numbers. So let's talk all about it. Let's rock as Nick has posted three refs with

clown makeup in the noes. Not necessarily for this game, but I think that was the crew that officiated the Iowa State game. We'll talk all about that anyway. That's for you. Saint Mary's number eight, Kansas seventy eight, number four Houston sixty five. Just a complete and complete and thorough kicking at the fog. One of the vintage ones. They're good for one of these every couple of years where income's top ten team that's pretty sexy but also

kind of unchallenged. Here they come at the King best not missed. I think That game gave me serious Chiefs Ravens energy that kind of feel the same way to you guys, except it was less boring. Yes it was. But like the Ravens, just like Houston kind of had that we're gonna play bully ball. We're gonna be the physical team, We're gonna get under their skin. And then they go out the defending champ and they just completely melt. They're not the more physical team. They get punked, is what happened.

I know the Chiefs only beat the Ravens by a score, but the Chiefs dominated that game in the trenches, just like Kansas just smacked Houston. They made Houston there. I don't have the drop, but they made Houston their toy for a couple of hours. If you will land in game story, you were there, you get to read it. Yeah, Jayhawks, they really did just own Houston for the better part of forty minutes. There was a little stretch there where LJ. Carr made things a little more interesting

than they should have gotten. He's quite good, he is very good. But Kay, you jumped out to a thirty to fifteen lead pretty early and they made it maintained a double digit lead for the last twenty five minutes of the game. Kansas shot an extremely nice sixty percent every one defense in college basketball, scoring one hundred and fifty percent of the points Houston averages giving up

per game. They move into a first place tie in the same Big twelfth race that so many fans were counting them out of just a week ago. Yeah, Kansas really good. Houston I still think good, but did get absolutely bodied by the Jayhawks. They had no answer, especially on defense, which was pretty wild to see. Yeah, Nick, you gotta be pretty thrilled. We're gonna talk about the players. We're gonna talk about some takeaway. It wasn't a perfect game from Kansas, but top five team comes in

Allen Field House and Kansas just wrecks them for forty straight minutes. Had to be everything you needed to see to get bought back into this team. Yeah, perfect display offensively overall, defensively, just a masterclass by Bill self, really eliminating l J. Cryer in the first half. And obviously that huge run a bunch of momentum. Obviously the place is juiced up to start the game, but the way Kansas put their foot on the gas and really never

let up. You know, there were times where it seemed like in late in the second half l J. Cryer was making his threes that the gap was going to close a little bit. But no, they kept Houston at arms length distance, just consistent, high quality basketball minus the turnovers they had a slew of those, but outside of that, a near perfect game from Ku. We'll talk about sixty nine percent from the island sid sixty nine percent

from the floor, unmatched for especially this team this year. Assists were there, just overall a culmination of what we wanted to see in this team. KG Adams get a little bit better offensively outside of just a dunks. Hunter Dickinson played a little bit more complete on defense, and Dwan Harris contributed a little bit more on offense, had that huge three. And then also we've talked about this the entire season, but the emergence of the Kangaroo, the

kangaroo himself just jumping onto the scene here as of late. Well, let's start with some maturity. Those overrated ass clowns. I am not going to be annoying this entire podcast, but I will be annoying in this monologue because, oh my gosh, was that fun to see Houstons as a top ranked the top ranked Big twelve team over the last fifteen years. Not twenty one Baylor, not twenty Kansas, not ten Kansas, not nineteen in Texas Tech. You know, teams that either won a title, got to a final

four, one thirty plus games won the league. No, no, no, no, no. It was Houston and their best win was Texas Tech at home. Oh wow, they beat Jackson State and Rice by one hundred points. They must be the number one team. No. At some point what you see on the court has to matter. Houston is won in three away from their home venue. Now they have lost to the best three Big twelve teams. They've played at Kansas, at Iowa State, and at TCU.

They are a good Big twelve team. They are right there with Kansas. They are right there with Baylor. This is a good team that could contend and win the league. They could get a one seed. They are a good basketball team. But what absolute rubbish it was to think that this was the greatest Big twelve team in the last fifteen years just because your nerd numbers saw him as well. Give up thirty eight points to Jackson State and

vaults them into his historic unsharded waters and what did the computers do? How much did they move them? They still have a ninety one percent chance per ESPN to win the Big Twelve. It was ninety two percent yesterday. I don't get it. At some point, what we see on the court has to speak louder volumes than these predictive measures. Because Houston is still won with a bullet on Ken Palm and Kansas went from fifteen to thirteen as a result

of smashing the number one team in the country. Somebody make it make sense. I will not be that guy. I don't think it makes sense at all. I agree with you, it's very strange. Again, I agree with you also that, Yeah, Houston I think is very much still a good team. I don't think that is necessarily in doubt. But yeah, Houston has always been overrated for how high they've been, and Ken Palm makes no sense to me. Yeah, and I do like that. We called

this from the very start. We always thought this was gonna happen. We always thought this was gonna be the case, you know. I think if they played the game ten times in all field House, I don't know if Kansas wins them all by thirteen and leads by twenty and many of them. But they are nine and one if they play ten games. Yep, yep. And here's the thing. Also, I loved the overrated chant. Normally, I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, and they're tuned in on

that for a second. Yeah, as you should. And there are a few self righteous people on Twitter that are like, this is Kansas, we do the rock chalk chant. Okay, stop, it's a chant, right, It's not gonna make them melt or anything like that. Yes, in that case, Houston was overrated. I've seen some people say that diminishes the quality of your win. No, it doesn't. They beat a good team. Saying that they're overrated in this particular case didn't imply they're not good.

It implied they weren't as good as they were being hyped up to be, and Kansas bodied them. So even if they are overrated, it was a dominant outing. Yes, and chances are fine. Like in a Big twelve where it's against the law, you get you get sent to the you get death sentenced if you say horns down, I'm perfectly fine if you want a chance overrated at a team that is truly more overrated than any basketball team I've

seen in our time on this show. And that's the case even if they win the NCAA Championship, if they do not lose again, they are still overrated because they are being ranked as better than just about any team ever on Ken pom Nick. Your thoughts, Yeah, the r To Ryan's point, the predictive metrics do such a bad job of accounting. I mean, we've talked about this before, like the betting thing, how Kansas in tough game,

close game situations now like eight with the final media timeout. How underestimating these metrics are that these betting algorithms use, and they just don't want to cat There's there's no account for Allen Fieldhouse. There's no special formula for the building. And every time it seems like these odds makers get burned because they don't realize that Kansas and outfield House is just completely different than any other environment.

And to Ryan's point, this is a top ten team and Houston for as much, for much respect they're getting in the metrics, how good defensively defensively they've been this season. You're talking about a game that Kansas has won as the stats show what fourteen to zero and bill selves tenure against top ten teams and outfield house. The stats don't lie at this point. It's not just a statistical anomaly. It's a probability that Kansas is going to win games

like these. So I don't get it. I don't get the whole net thing, the whole Ken Palm thing has the stats nerds really have. I know they're helpful for a lot of things. Comparing resumes eye test only goes so far in some circumstances, But in comparing teams it does such a poor job of actually comparing head to head results getting good wins, especially in the

Big Twelve. How tough of a conference this is, and it's why we've complained for years about Gonzaga and Houston when they're in the American it favors blowout wins, and you're not gonna get grind them out close wins a huge brownie points in the Ken Palmer Net rankings because you won by two. You're gonna get browning points because you won by forty and had high offensive efficiency and defensive

efficiently efficiency margins. It's that right there, that right there. Teams figured out last year ironically, Houston was the one that laid the groundwork that these metrics, which are used as just as much of a factor as the eye test when they see the tournament. These metrics value beating a Quad four opponent by forty more than they value beating a top ten team by five. It's

true, we saw it last year. That's why so many Big twelve teams were ahead of Kansas and the non con Kansas now has four wins over teams currently in the top ten, and there were marks a three seed by Joe Lonardi yesterday despite having as many wins as anybody that's ahead of them. But the teams that spanked all the Quad four teams that the Iowa States, the Arizona's, the Houstons, Purdue had a great non conference schedule and has as

many wins as Kansas. I think they have one more than Kansas. Why are they the two overall and Kansas is the nine overall? There's no consistency. Teams figure that out. And Kansas now with four top ten wins and leading the best conference in college basketball, they are as much of a one seed as anybody right now. And yet here we are where the metrics don't wait, It doesn't wait opponent at all. Right, yeah, just purely just your statistical output. I mean it does. The net does weight opponents

because they do the quad two thing. The net does, yes, But the kN Palm metrics, yeah, the efficiency metrics are complete hogwash. The net is kinder to Kansas than Ken Palm. Kansas is up to eleven in the net. You'll never guess who's still won with a bullet. Houston is six and three in Quad one games. Now that's better. Okay, fine, you know what. We like that he still has top five and Ken Pom BYU coming up. That's their toughest game on the schedule. Left.

Forget about Houston, forget about Baylor. They've got to go play at BYT. They play BYU here later on this season as well. Yep, that is it. Yeah, there's like seven losses and see that right there. That's where I'm losing my mind. Kansas has two more wins than BYU. Kansas has five Quad one wins, BYU has three. Kansas has what two more conference wins? And they are five spots below BYU in the net.

I can't figure this out. At some point, it has to be about who you beat, and not about the nerd stats about how you beat them and was their luck involved in all that? If you beat enough top ten how many top ten teams do you have to beat to be a one seed when you're also leading the strongest conference. This seems like it should be. We have four total losses. There is no argument right now. And this is a stupid thing to talk about in early February because this will play out

just fine. But there is zero argument right now to having Houston ahead of Kansas on the bracket curve. And I saw a lot of bracketologists which is it may as well be a if that's in your Twitter bio, It may as well just be a different way of saying I don't go outside. But these bracketologists say, well, Houston is still clearly a one seed because quad one wins and all that stuff. It's like, No, at some point we saw last year quad one wins don't matter. Kansas got dinged for setting

a record in quad one wins because they had more Quad one losses. Okay, Houston's got more Quad one losses than teams like Purdue and Yukon and North Carolina because they have more opportunities. Now, why are they being It's just it makes no sense. It makes no sense, and I'm over it. Let's talk about the environment, land and how was Allen Fieldhouse loud? It was? It was good as always, It was very loud at the very beginning. I don't think it was actually as good as the Yukon game,

but also that Yukon game was closer longer. That's why the fans felt a need to stay really really up where was like we sat for most of the

game against Houston, there was not a ton of standing. Well, the Kevin mccullor dunk that made it thirty to fifteen and forced the time out, that's when I thought it peaked in loudness other than the pretty I agree, Yeah, and at that point this hype video of theater h Yeah, the mccullor dunk was pretty pretty awesome that happens, and then Furfy's dunk was also close. Yeah, and after that the game was kind of over. Like

it was. You kind of knew at that point. Now. Now, ESPN did say Houston still was a fifty one percent favorite when they were behind like sixteen to five or something like that. But everybody with common sense knew it was over, So yeah, it obviously wasn't that possession specifically, like because Kansas just had a good offensive possession. And I remember thinking like, Houston really needs to get a bucket here if they want to keep this thing

within striking distance. And then of course they throw a breakaway pass to Kevin mccullor, who makes a great play on the ball and then two hands slams it and I was like, oh, yeah, that might be game that curtains it was possible for him, and it did. Nick. Let's talk about Hunter Dickenson. You have been kind of hard on him for a few different reasons, but I think this is the game that everybody should look at

him and awe about. He was Kansas's best player in this game, so at least statistically going for twenty points, eight rebounds, and four assists against an elite defense box house box outs. Like I said earlier, we're a little bit better terrific defense against a quick and physical team as Houston's was. This sort of a game you needed to see him play winning. Uh.

I think he was really good. I think Ryan and I both I think predicted Hunter Dickinson having a really nice night and I think he was really good. I don't know if I really quote unquote needed to see him play this. I think this is the way he's been playing most of the season. Obviously, he's had a couple of down games, I guess, but uh no, I think he's been really really solid, and I think he played really really well. Again, I continue to think he is he boxed out

like alright, but I don't think he actually rebounded that well. Yeah, I agree that I think he was decently sloppy underneath Straws at this point, Straws, he's been sloppy underneath. That doesn't affect the quality of player that he is. He's still an undeniably great player. He's one of like the two or three best players in America. Yeah, but I think you you, you should be able to point out the fact that this is a slight like problem for him. I hesitate to even called it problem, but like

it's a flaw. It's a flaw in his game that Yes, he does get a lot of rebounds, but I think most of those rebounds are either

right to him or just because he's the biggest guy. Yeah, he's seven to That's that's the first key in rebounding well, like man, Parker Brown goes out there and scores five points and we're like, oh my gosh, those were great minutes from Parker. And Hunter Digginson scores twenty and eight against this godly defense and people are like, well, the box out could have been better, and oh, there was a couple times he didn't convert on

his first look. I'm just like, geez, I think Hunter Dickinson's one of the that's the raising of standards, which I don't totally agree with. I think you have to kind of check that, like, yeah, obviously you have higher expectations for better players, but I do think there's a weird

thing that happens. When your expectations are really high for a guy, it becomes truly just expectation that he plays very well, and you start to notice the flaws more because you're not as wowed by the little things that he does, whereas when Parker Brown you have no expectations. So when he knocks down at three, everyone goes crazy. I'm not saying that's right, but that's

is just what happens. Dickinson's averaging nineteen and nine in conference play. He is fouling quite a bit more in conference play, so there's your more physical side that everybody wanted to see. His passing numbers are his blocking numbers are up in conference play. He has been phenomenal, like just phenomenal. He's the Big twelve player of the year right now. If you take out his teammate, I think it's it's just crazy. He was the best player in

this game until LJ. Cryer's garbage time three started going in, and at least statistically, he was the second best player in this game. I think he probably was the most impactful. Yeah, he was fantastic. And everybody talks about how he's soft. Okay, here's twenty eight against the most physical defense there is apparently, and it's yes. I think he was fantastic. Exactly what we needed to see, and he was a large part in how

Kansas shredded Houston's defense. With again the Aforemen ships sixty nine percent shooting, but they were also plus sixteen against one of the best rebounding teams in the country. They held the Cougars to very few second chance opportunities until the final few minutes. It got sloppy with the rotations. Houston did finish with twelve offensive rebounds, but it was like four until halfway through the second half, and then it got a little bit lopsided, a little skewed with that.

They did turn it over eighteen times to Houston's three. Imagine being told at the beginning of the game, predict the score Kansas is going to turn over eighteen times and only force three. We would have probably predicted losses at that point, right, probably, But it didn't really also matter because the defense was so good that Houston wasn't scoring on those transition opportunities, and Kansas was making so many of their shots that as long as they didn't turn it over,

it was at least two points most of the night. Well, in a weird sort of fluke, a lot of Kansas's turnovers were dead ball. They were just yeating it out of bounce a bunch of times. Yeah, which including Alago to your point, it allows Kansas defense to set up so weirdly, those turnovers did not lead to very many transition opportunities. It was a lot of half court defense. Yeah, that helped a lot, because Houston just looked one step slower, I thought in this game on both ends,

they're supposed to be the quick team. They're supposed to be the physical team. Kansas is supposed to be the team because of lousy soft ass Hunter Dickinson's slowness clogging everything up. They're supposed to be the team that gets burned on these back door things, and Kansas was the one who looked a step ahead there. Dwan Harris's passing numbers weren't particularly great in this game, and Kansas's assists numbers as a team were fantastic because everybody got involved. It was

a really good showing to see. Nick. I assume that, like all the reasons that they won this game, I think the most impactful, the most impactful thing about it was their first shot defense. But you can take your pick. What was the most impressive thing in your eyes about Kansas in this win. I would say it's the offensive output. You know, at times it's been a little bit spotty this year really emerged the as of late especially you know, the WESTERNI game was a loss, but they still scored

eighty five points in that game. I really think it's starting a round the corner. Credit to Johnny Furphy. You know, he's been such a huge lift this team's needed offensively. But I think it was just accumulative performance from all of these these starters, just really good showing offensively from each of them, and then the defense obviously complemented that as well. But I was just really stood out to me. It's hard not to overlook that number of sixty

nine percent from the floor. They're a good field goal percentage team as a whole already and near the top of the nation and assists as well, but really just overall shows the skillless team has the potential this team has when they play well and play together even without having a bench that this was still a massive performance for KU. They are first nationally with almost twenty one assists per game as a team, and they are second nationally with fifty two percent team

FRIEL team field goal percentage. So yeah, as long as they're not turning it over, they're likely getting an assist into a basket on Just think about all those all those eighteen turnovers. If three or four of those would have even turn into baskets, this guy would have been blown even more open. Yeah, it's it's pretty wild that you have fifteen more turnovers than your opponents still win by thirteen. Like that's we kind of see something new every time

we do a recap, and that's that's that's the new thing here. Landon Johnny Furfey. Let's talk about him. He just continues to improve and Bill self said he's been one of the best players in the Big twelve over the last month. He's right, Yeah, he is. He was sensational, especially in the first half, seventeen points total, six four to seven shooting, including three four from deep. He had eight rebounds as well in thirty

five minutes. Furfey is now shooting fifty four percent from the floor and forty three percent from three, but that number is forty nine percent from three in Big Twelve play Nick, he talked about him, You said you liked him a lot. He has been fantastic and, as you said, a huge lift to this team. Is he going pro after this season? Is his time in Lawrence almost up? Already? Ryan doesn't think so. But I think that there's a cyby sneaky suspicion he's gonna get drafted. I think so

too. I think so now the last two games, I think I've changed my mind. Yeah, he's I think he might be a lottery pick now he's nineteen. He he might be a first rounder. He genuinely might be a first round pick at this point. He's an nineteen year old that's six foot nine and shoots threes in the forty percents and he rebounds really well too. What what? Why? Was not excellent defense against Houston, which had

been his real weakness was he wasn't a great defender. He lost guys, He wasn't always in control on defense with foul and he did still foul some, but like he had some absolute lockdown moments. He was sensational from the start. It was clear Houston's strategy was they were going to try to pick

on Furfey. We saw immediately a couple of guys try to try to drive to the basket right on Furfey. They spread it around, they found the guy that Furfey was guarding, and they tried to send him inside against Furfey, and Furfey's foote work has improved so much to a point where he didn't budge, they didn't get in the lane against them. I especially noticed this happened a couple times with Emmanuel Sharp. It was very clear that he was

going to try to attack the basket against Furfey. And he wound up going one for five from two, and that's a guy who's normally their best driver to the basket on the outside, completely locked him down. Crier was the only reason that Houston didn't get burned by twenty plus in this game, and it took him making some crazy shots to get there. It doesn't feel like it because he's not white, but at least to me, Crier has now

made eight hundred career threes against Kansas. Congratulations l J. Cryer for making that many. I remember every single one of them. Yeah, he was. He was genuinely sensational. You said in garbage time. It wasn't quite as in garbage time as you think. Nothing that game was ever in doubt either, but he genuinely put some a little bit of pressure on Kansas. Of course, Kansas responded that pressure extremely well. But he was great. He was the only reason. Yeah, like you said, the game was

even remotely close. And you know what's wild, guys, Kansas their three point lousy ass worse in history three point defense. Houston only made thirty one percent of their threes in this game. Kudos to Bill self. He taught the worst three point defensive team. How to become really good in just the week. Good Bill, I mean, since no part of its flukiness or luck, I guess you gotta give it up. He's the best coach in

the history of basketball. Right, Kansas locked down three point defense. They were extremely good defensively, Like, I know, you think all three point defense is luck. I think if you play better overall defense, that improves your three point defense a little bit. I think luck is the biggest attribute of a three point defense. But yeah, I guess Nick, tell me

about those updated numbers. I mean, surely Kansas whipped Houston. They got to have a much better chance to win the Big Twelve, or they have a much better chance. Right, Kansas whipped Houston. ESPN said that they had a seventy five percent chance to win. Houston did against Kansas? Did that he did yesterday? No? Actually, but hey, you know what, I'm sure ESPN has adjusted, right, They've realized that, surely they're not right. Surely they're not going to be wrong about anything else. I

maybe they've adjusted their efficiency metrics. But it says I'm reading it says they have it Houston at a ninety one percent chance to win the Big Twelve. And Kansas is at six percent. Also, Kansas's chances of winning the return game in Houston went from seven to eight percent. How many consecutive times would Kansas have to beat Houston to pass them on Ken Pam, I actually want to know what you guys think here, because once, uh, they got

two spots closer, but they're still a long way away and Houston's. Houston is actually considered one of the most unlucky Power Five teams according to Ken Palm now too, So I'm gonna say it would be three. I think it's three. You actually, I was gonna say, like seven, it's gonna be more than that, like five, yeah, yeah, I think they would grow exponentially with each one. I think if you beat them, beating them once, in some people's minds, even though it's not could be attributed

to locker whatever, which is dumb. But you know, you could make these cues. If you beat them twice in a row, you show that you're the better team, but maybe the metrics would still bear something else out. And then if you beat them thre times in a row, you just really had no choice at that point about Chris Reynolds says, Hey, you know what. It was a little rainy in Kansas and it wasn't in Houston. It was just there's a weird circumstance. Clearly got to still give us

to the one see because of what they did against Jackson State. I mean, just clearly. Right, here are three players we don't have a ton of analysis for, but still want to give them their comeuppets. Kevin McCuller seventeen points, seven of eight shooting geese, seven rebounds, three assists, and on a bad knee. Nick has changed that to McCullough. Thank you, Fran. McCullough played thirty seven minutes, so the injury must not be

too much of an issue. Turns out that Oklahoma State does indeed just suck balls, and Bill self couldn't give that as a reason why he didn't want mccullor to play the other night. Dwan Harris has seven points and just to assist in thirty seven minutes. Yes, thank you Nick for pointing that out. Fran does call him Houston a lot like he switches the U and the age. That was driving me nuts too, Thank you for pointing that out. So Harris seven points to assist, thirty seven minutes, three or four

for the floor. Not his best statistical game, but he played well. kJ ten point seven assists, four rebounds, four or five shooting thirty six minutes. We don't really have any talking points, or maybe you guys do about any of these guys right like kJ, I will say, only four rebounds. I had a couple of people be like told you that it doesn't matter when you don't Yeah, they shot seventy percent from the floor. If they shoot seventy percent from the floor every night, it doesn't matter how much

kJ rebounds. They'll be fine. And it exists from your fore man is crazy though it is. YEAHKJ played great the rebounding. We'll see what happens when Kansas struggles to shoot. If you're gonna get away with your fore man not shooting, I now get what you're doing. We don't worry, sir. We'll talk about that. If you're going to have a poor rebounding fore

man. It's great that it happens on a team that is really good at shooting the ball, because you want high percentage shooting teams if you don't have to worry about rebounds, I guess. But anything to say about any of those guys they were all very very good. Someone in the crowd was very worried about rebounds. Oh no, yeah, not really. I mean, remains sensational, he was. He was great. Uh yeah, not too much really analysis here they were all. They were all really solid. I

like the way Harris played for the most part. I think he played well, even though just had two assists. Like, I think he played a really solid game. Rebound That's not how she said it. That's not how she said it. But I did write down lady yelling rebound during Ku free throws. I can't read that on the as a kid, didn't know to do that. Yeah, exactly. Also read the rules, dumb ass, They can't rebound the first land. Did you hear now in fieldhouse? Yeah?

I know I had. I was gonna say everybody on that half of Kansas hurt her, like seriously so much. Generally didn't hear. I had no clue that she was saying anything. I genuinely could not hear really close to him, Mike, Wow, Yeah, it was awful. It was the whole game. Did you watch the highlights to hear it or like, you still don't know what we're talking about? I mean, I knew it happened based on what you guys were saying in the chat, But no,

I have not heard any of this. This lady sitting right behind the Houston bench that was yelling rebound like a screeching hawk every time Ku shot free throws. I think kJ should have taken a miss and just yeaded it at her face as hard as he could have, just like shut her up, like seriously, I look, we're not We're not the class guys. We're not the unwritten rules guys. Nick might be, We're not. But I'm not

gonna like sit here and tell you I don't like that. But that is kind of bush league, like you know, you go into someone else's gym and yac like a like like that for the whole game. You get it once or twice, you make your point. But it was constant. Man, I can't believe Landon didn't hear it. Landon might need his ears checked after that. I don't feel hows is loud man? Somebody talk about the bench. I was gonna ask Nick to do it, but he's writing his

he's writing his rule book, which may take a while. Ritten rules. Parker Brown, he was actually all right. He had a three h five wins in eight minutes. Pretty solid minus and relief of Dickinson. Everyone else not so much. Brick Timber brick bricks three in his three minutes, more maxim mad threes. Jamar mcdal brikeed three in his two minutes, and then was once again banished to the phantom zone. Elda Jackson made a pull up jumper, had a nice lobb assist Keji Adams, but he turned it over

three times in nine minutes, including a couple truly not great ones. He's not great. He's really not been good in conference play eight baskets to ten turnovers to sixteen fouls, and that's only halfway through Big twelve play. He's been very not good, as we've been saying on this podcast, he's been a little bit buns. You got to ride or die with Timberlake, man, I know that that's terrible. I know that likes Timberlake. Does she really does? Gosh? Yeah, she was like, oh, I like

him, I like him. He plays well for him. Oh all right, I went with it. She's a nice Landon needs his ears checked. Grandma might need to go to the eye doctor. We'll have to. I'll have to arrange that I do like Timberlake. I think he works hard, and I think it takes a lot of guts to have high expectations and really disappoint. He's well aware he's been a disappointment this year, and nobody's more disappointed that Nick Timberlake has disappointed than Nick Timberlake. So he's a guy who

shoots like nearly forty percent in his entire career. He is not exactly like in the dark that he's shooting poorly, Like that's got away on him, Yes, and and like clearly he's disappointed and no one's working harder to get out of it. I respect how he's kept his composure and hasn't let that frustration showed. I also have the most confidence that he can figure it out. So I think you got to keep riding with it, and I want

to see him continue to take three or four threes a game. I said I was done with Almarco two three podcasts to go, and I've only seen stuff that has made me further be done with al Marco. There was a couple series where he was following LJ. Cryer around and I was like, well, just go ahead and put three on the board for Houston and give Kansas the ball back. Let's let's go out and save our time. Al Marco Jackson gives them absolutely nothing, and people on Twitter I said that in

a nice way. I was like, he's a nice guy, but he's not really a big twelve player right now, be wow, he's at Jayhawk. You can't talk about our own like that. No, he's buns.

He's horrible. Stop playing him, please. I agree with you on Nick Timberlake, though, I like, there's no one else, uh, none of the other three guys like that are gonna yeah exactly, Like there's no one that can give you what he could potentially give you, even though he's only shown it against Yale and and NC Central yeh and Manhattan or it was in C Central yay, right, I knew it was one of the first

couple of games if if either one doesn't matter, two terrible teams. If he can uh get hot and hit like two threes a game in March, that would be enormous. And Frank Freschiella, go sit on a cactus ass wipe. I don't care about how how great of at oh that was such a great half by cans me me me, okay, great, good by Kansas, Jim Wise, it was a great half. What do did you expect to happen? Fran? Did you expect Houston to go in there like they own the place? Are you in on it? To nerd? Go

sit on your phone book. I'm so tired of hearing Fran for Scilla call games at Allen Field House and he acts like he's Bill selfs buddy. Every show He's like, you know, I was here for the KU Coaches Fantasy Camp. Oh cool, Fran, you get a badge too, You get a T shirt? Says Bill's ups Fantasy Camp. I'm so overhearing about that wish opportunity, overhearing about how how Fran really wants us all to know that he and Bill self talk every now and then. Fran, I'm sure Bill

loves Fran. He seems like Bill selves cup of tea, right, Bill loves five foot four nerds who talk about Houston and mispronounces player's names all the time. I think Bill playcates to Fran. Yeah, yeah, he is. He throws him a bone. Is what you call that? That's called throwing somebody a bone and Fran, I've heard enough Fran to last a lifetime. I am so Overfriand they never want Bob with shoes. That's a foul. People in this building probably don't think it's a fell. Yeah, that's

a fel. Yeah he said that. While boy, he's like, it's hard to believe for the people in this building, but that's a foul. It's like he would never say that anywhere else. And I don't want to breathe loser energy by talking about this because this is like the twelfth most important thing in the fifth tier of important things to talk about in this game. But I have heard enough fran for Scilla to last me a lifetime. I never get to hear Bob with shoes in anymore. It's rare I get to

hear Dan Shulman. It's rare that I get to hear Bill Raftree. I never get to hear Jay Wright. But Franz there twelve times a year. Oh and Bill Walton. Yeah, they put Bill Walton on the PAC twelve network. Now. I the first thing I thought of is, Oh, he finally says, is he gonna do the PAC twelve dissolves next year? And what Oregon State games? Or I mean, there's yeah, the big twelve should hire him. I love Bill Walton. I'm all four more Bill

Walton. Final numbers in this game can sixty nine percent from the floor, forty six percent from three to sixty seven percent from the line, and sixteen more rebounds than their opponent. The only bad number is they had eighteen turnovers. But Houston number one of the country forcing turnovers. It's gonna happen, and these were, as Landon said, not super costly turnovers for a few to reasons. Any closing takeaways for me a plus game. They show that

they're one of the five best teams in the country. I've always thought they are. They are a top five team. They're the favorite in this conference. They're gonna be a one seed as long as they don't, as long as they win the conference, win a share of it, whatever. I think that this team is rounding in de forman February, as most Bill Salves teams do. Yeah, color me shocked, Pikachu that Kansas put on one of their best performances of the season in one of their toughest tests at home.

They usually do that, and they did it again, and they look great doing it four times this year They've done that yeah, great game, as you said, A or A plus type of performance. Now the big question mark is, but these guys, these starters playing thirty seven to forty minutes a game. You've got a Monday night game two days later, and then you've got a daunting six ranked teams, maybe seven if it persists,

with Texas back in the top twenty five. Maybe, But Kansas has a gauntlet of a schedule coming up. If these guys can stay healthy and the starting lineup can stay energized, I have a hard time picking against Kansas to win the Big twelve. And one more thing here, oh God, of course, of course, why would that play in that drop? Well, now I have to go back and beat it. It was just supposed to be suck on that from the office, and somebody must have played with it

because I was gonna throw one at the nerds. Now I have to go back to the twelve fifty beat mark and beep out that word. Maybe that's what Bill Walton finally said that got him kicked off of ESPN. Who knows, all right, whatever, it's more work for me, freaking my favorite. Also, darn it, now I clicked off the soundboard, So now I'm really screwing up this recap bag Big twelve games. There was a lot

of action around the court. We're starting to see the cream rise at the top of the Big twelve, and this was definitely the best game I think in a weekend full of good games. Number eighteen Baylor seventy, number twelve, Iowa State sixty eight. Who wants to start off? Because who wants

to start with the refs? I'll let Nick take it. Baylor was in total control before Iowa State went on a twenty to zero run in the second half, and things were neck and neck into the final seconds when Neilon Moum chilavi holded it when Chilavich hosted an apparent buzzer beating three to win the game, but replay showed he didn't get off in time, giving the Bears the

win. And of course, the rest went to the monitor after that because they had to make sure that the clock was started right on time because of their previous trip to the monitor for twenty minutes while they sorted out why the clock didn't start for two seconds after a missed free throw, which gave Ioways State another time out, but Scott drew that the real part of the refs, not just them spending eight hours of the monitor. Scott Drew got ejected

for leaving the coaches box. I'm glad that we have officials in the sport really relegating the indecent behavior of coaches, right right, Yeah, meanwhile, what's his name can run out on the court and play defense. Yeah, what's the coach? Travis Ford? Travis Ford out playing defense? Travis Ford too. He was yes, yes, good points by Nick. That's exactly what I was hoping to hammer home that. Now, Scott Drew, you may be picturing a guy gets ejected for leaving the coaching box. That he

was running and like screaming at half court. He was on a knee with his foot over the line, and he had already been given a technical for leaving the coaches box. I didn't see the first one. Maybe the first one was egregious, but he was just coaching his team, knealing on the court with a foot an inch over the line, and they stopped the game and tossed him, and everybody in the stands nobody really understood what was going

on, because it's not like he was screaming at him. Really, that's when we're gonna enforce this, like if we are now enforcing leaving the coach's box with ejections, then I want to see Shaka get teed up within the first thirty seconds of the next game. Consistency you stripe wearing mouth breathers logic, thought, Well, yeah, totally knowing with that logic. Also, so Trey King. In his first game since setting his career high in threes

last week, Trey King was zero for two shooting threes. Well, Leanna, I don't know why you're surprised. Kansas sucks at guarding the three, and Baylor face guarded him with each of those two attempts. They were the two. They were the two toughest defensive possessions you've ever seen in your existence. Way tougher than anything Kansas did to Houston. Those two possessions that Tray,

Yeah, that's are you starting the field Baylor a little more. I think they're the third best team in the Big twelve, and I think they're going to be a contender for this league. I guess, I don't know. You think it's a two You think it's a two man league. You've been the last few seasons two man league. Yes or no. Let's say the question again. Two. Is this a two team race? Yes, it's a two team race. I do not think it's a two team race. I think it's a three team race, Nick, two or three team

race? Two teams? All right, Well, you guys are bouncing off the Scott. You're express off liarly. I'd rather bet on a guy that's won the title and won the Big twelve than a guy who's done nothing but win four out of the last ten AAC titles. I didn't say that it was Houston and Kansas. I said it was. I could have said it was Baylor in Kansas. Was the two team race? That's true. That would take some guts and I never will know. That's for you to know,

sir. Oklahoma State seventy five, Kansas State seventy two. Well, since Landon said he was quote wonting all the tang all the Wildcats have done is go oh and four, Nick has added three more l's and Wildcats. So it's now wild Cats who turned it over fifteen times and couldn't stop fouling down the stretch. Keon Williams led the way for Oklahoma State seventeen points ten rebounds. Case State's lost four in a row. They get Kansas this week,

so we'll see a season saver could be on deck. What is their final Big twelve record going to be there? Four and five through the first half, Yeah, seven eleven, eight, eight and ten. I think that we're gonna find out a lot about them in the Kansas game. They're a five point dang thing, really because you think they're gonna lose. Well, for one, I just think rivalry games are weird no matter what.

So even if they win, I don't know if I'd really bet on them being amazing, but I do think they're gonna lose, probably by an okay margin. They have such a brutal schedule, and I know that that's not saying much because Big twelve, but they really do. They get Kansas, then they go at BYU. They're gonna be underdogs in both those games. Then they get TCU at home. So we say, maybe they win one of those three at Texas, BYU, at Home West virgin and yet Home

at Cincinnati, at Kansas, ioways stayed at home. There's probably four wins in there. Yeah, they're probably eight and ten, but it wouldn't surprise me if the floor fell out. I think there's some weird things going on with Jerome tang As good of a coach and guy as I think he has something just doesn't feel right in that athletic department. And they've now lost to you lose to this team, and boy, that's just the wheels may be coming off. Cincinnati, same score, seventy five, number fifteen, Texas

Tech seventy two. Landon. If we were all right on one thing, it's that Texas Tech. Eventually that five and one start, it was gonna even out. And two l's this week. Yeah, they're lucky. Close games swung back here for sure. Stemus Lukosius hit a go ahead jumper with twenty one seconds left to grant Cincinnati a massive road win. Lukasius leather Bearcats with sixteen points. Which of these two teams are actually better? Nick Case State? Oh sorry, I just completely had a brain fart. Yeah,

I probably think that it's Texas Tech. I think it is too. I think I think too, but it is closer than I thought it would be. Tech is another one of those cases. That's their experience in this league. They know what it's like, they know what it takes So I'm gonna bet on that team because I think that the four newbies, it's gonna be tougher for them down the stretch. They haven't done this before. Here's Tech's next few games. They go at Baylor. They're gonna be an underdog there.

Central Florida home. They should win that KU at home. Lubbock's tough, but still at Iowa State at Central Florida, Texas TC at home. I think there's a lot of l's there to be had for Texas Tech, who I think they also feel like about a nine to nine Big Twelve team. There's a lot of that in the Big Twelve this year. Lot els like how about this UCF seventy four number twenty three Oklahoma sixty three? Nick,

you read the score, Porter Moser, this is you. UCF led wire to wire in this game, and by double digits for almost all the second half. Jalen Sellers had twenty points. The Sooners are buns, folks. Oh. Also fun fact here, Luke Northwather remember whenever he made two threes in Allen guys? Yeah, Uh, they've played six games since he hasn't made one. Man, It's almost like that happens every single time. No Landon. Gosh darn it, I'm so tired of you acting like that.

It's luck. I'll tell you exactly what happened. So Kansas's three point defense totally freaking sucks. That's why north Weather got those open looks right right, yeah. And West Virginia, Cincinnati, Texas, Texas at k State and UCF all of them played super good defense and prevented him from getting open looks. That's why he hasn't made any Come on, do you guys even know ball? I mean, it's obvious what's going on at this point. Oklahoma, there's one thing that I was right on in Big twelve play.

It's that Oklahoma is buns. Porter Moser is buns. I told you they don't have the bigs to contend in this conference race. I cannot believe there is a number in front of their name. They are horrible. That won't be much longer. Nope, Texas seventy seven, number twenty five, TCU sixty six. This was typical. I can't believe we all missed. This game was tied at sixty four at the under four time out, but Texas closed strong, ending the night on a thirteen two run. Max Asmis led

the way with twenty one points. By the way, Acemis is now thirteenth on the all time NCAA D one scoring list, passing Danny Manning, which is he is he is playing an extra year. That helps, But that dude just fight out gets buckets. Would have been fun to have him. TCU also shreded on the glass. They looked every bit as hot and cold as they normally are. They can beat anyone, they can lose to anybody

as well. They will probably find themselves at five hundred because that is Jamie Dixon one oh one, number twenty two BYU eighty six West Virginia seventy three. Nope, still still not feeling the Mountaineers. Let's give this name a shot. Twenty four points for a Fusini Trai or Fussini uh as b Yu made thirteen threes and scored a win their first of a trip to Morgantown, unlike the Jayhawks. That's from twenty three points, but no one else did

much of anything. Raekwon Battle had three threes in the last four games, and he made three against Kansas. Oh you're gonna make me do this again? Clear well, clearly, Central Florid, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati by you just played much better defense than Kansas. I mean, come on, they're clearly better. That's how it works. I mean, come on, come on, Landing, come on, land buddy. Just just just watch a little more ball Landing, and maybe then you can you can know how it

works. It's really what I've been saying. I believe big twelve standings. Hey, look at this. Kansas and in Houston are tied for the league league. They are both six wins to three losses. In third place. Texas Tech, Iowa State, and Baylor all have five wins in three losses. In sixth place, all alone is TCU at five and four. Seventh place is BYU. They it feels about right there, four and four, the logjam of eighth place Cincinnati. You see Texas, Oklahoma, and k

State all four and five. It all by themselves again West Virginia their three and six. Last is Oklahoma State. But uh oh uh oh West Virginia team that Bill lost to. Can you hear those footsteps? Here comes Mike Boyton's dead man walking behind. He's gonna catch it. He's two and seven. Now. Oklahoma State's won two of their last three. Uh, they're games. Hey, landon High five, we predicted Kentucky would lose it,

rup, go ahead and tell me about it. Oh yeah, Tennessee put up a huge win in ropp Arena, beating number ten Kentucky one oh three ninety two and sending John calperryty back to back home losses. Oh no, Kentucky's gonna lose the all time wins list of Kansas again, which they shouldn't even be ahead in anyway, because vacated wins aren't a thing. NCAU suck giant Ostrich. But Tennessee got twenty six points and thirteen sists from Zekai Ziggler

as they made their case as the SEC's best team. I think they definitely are at this point. The sc refs, sensing the opportunity to interfere an otherwise very entertaining game called forty five thouls in forty minutes because we just can't have nice things. And you mentioned the wins record. Kansas is back to just two games now behind Kentucky on the all time wins list. They would be up thirteen right now if not for those twenty eighteen wins getting vacated vacating

wins sucks giant Ostrich balls. I don't know how many times I have to say it. It does. It is as yeah, what isn't that is Alabama? Apparently they continue to put it on an offensive the hammer down on their opponents, hanging ninety nine on Mississippi State in a blowout win. They're eight and one in the SEC and currently lead the conference in second place. Number sixteen Auburn, who beat Chris Beard's fraud Ole Miss team by fourteen in

South Carolina. The game Cocks won at Georgia and appeared into the top twenty five this week. With only three losses. SEC has got a pretty good case as the second best league in the country. I think Tennessee is very good until the Barns themselves eventually. Kentucky's ceiling remains very high. It remains to be seen if they ever figure it all out. Auburn is dangerous. This is their first Quad one win of the year, I believe, and

it's Ole Miss. Maybe not. Maybe they're the one that hasn't won a Quad one game or something. It's their resume is lacking, but they still show a lot of firepower and South Carolina is kind of a dark horse. As you said, Alabama has a great resume, So yeah, SEC is pretty good. They got five legitimate NCAA tournament locks right now overall, pretty entertaining league, their second best for my money? What was it? Me?

It's me, isn't it? Sorry? Big East Number one Yukon used a late push to beat Rick Patino Saint John's team seventy seven sixty four at Madison Square Garden. The Huskies are twenty and two overall. They're ten to one in league play, firmly entrenched in the driver's seat of that race. Number nine Marquette is in second after beating a horrendous Georgetown team ninety one to fifty seven in their own gym all on Friday night, Balder beat number thirteen,

creating ninety nine ninety eight in regulation. But a few people on Twitter were saying the game was bad because the defense was non existent. I just don't know how to live in world where that's a bad basketball game. Omber, probably Ryan's was that? Ryan was your grandmother one who said that? That is? That is definitely something Grandma would say. I don't like the NBA defense. Randomly, just about midway through the second half, if tattoos

were a requirement to play basketball. Oh no, I get too much. Yeah, my influence is where off hunderd answers kind of well. Number seven Duke couldn't compete in Chapel Hill, losing number three North Carolina ninety three to eighty four on game day because where else would ESPN go. Armando Baycott, who has been in college since Jimmy Carter, who was in the office,

went for twenty five points and ten rebounds. Zach Edy, not to one up him, has been in off has been in college basketball since JFK was in office. Yeah, yeah, it now gets three straight home games against Notre Dame, Boston College and Wake Forest because the schedule is just buns and how they get that's in the middle of a CC Yeah, jeez, yeah, isn't that funny? So Nick was talking about Zach Edy, who was very shook up on that dark day in Dallas in nineteen sixty three, whenever

he was just a wee freshman at Purdue. His boiler Makers did beat number six Wisconsin and Madison seventy five sixty nine. They controlled that game and led throughout. Edie had eighteen and thirteen. Really not a lot to talk about in this game, because because we said that the boiler Makers would pass Wisconsin in the Big Ten standings eventually, and they're way past them now. Purdue is tendant two Wisconsin and Illinois, who beat Nebraska in a really entertaining overtime

game this afternoon. They are tied for second at eight and three. In other Big Ten news, Joe Biden's favorite state. Do you have the dry beat Northwestern and overtime? Please? The man in charge not in charge. He shouldn't be the man in charge. I would if Joe Biden was. God, didn't he say other teams in that or any other states in that sound by, we need to go find those and add those to this outboard. He did, Yeah, he did. It's like Alabama, Florida.

He's getting all excited and every somebody one's found out like these are the Joe Biden reading off the n I T teams And it was pretty funny. Land and please continue to read where Joe Biden's then presidents. Yes, so Ruggers beat Michigan and in Arbor and Juwan Howard. Uh So it's safe because I have to I have to be careful. I have to skim ahead. Now I'm very nervous after that last sentence, so that she plays walk on because

the scholarship players don't care. That feels right, because they're not eight and fourteen or something like that. Uh. Indiana lost at home by fourteen to Penn State because Mike Woodson not having a great season as the IU played color down there. And that's just two absolute nuke sentences in this In this paragraph, I put a good one in the middle. Yeah, that's fine. Having Mike Woodsen as your coach is very bad, is my takeaway. He's

an awful basketball coach. That team starts five players that are all four or five stars. They're a horrible Your favorite team ever, Ryan Gonzaga, Oh no, it's it's Nick. It's my turn. They lost at home to Oh oh sorry, shoot, I'm still on. Yeah, the there we go. They dropped two games behind the Gales after it. With seven league games left, two huge streaks could be coming in for the Zags. Twelve

straight WCC titles and twenty four straight NCAA tournaments. It's been twenty four months since Mark I Few got his DUI, so that it's there probably belong to that that was in the offseason. They are zero to five and Quadrant one games and about out of chances to get more. It's Gonzaga going to make the n Gonzaga will win that stupid tournament because no one else is worthy,

and they'll get in. Gonzaga actually plays at Kentucky next Saturday, and a random non con game in the middle of the conference slate, and then they have at Saint Mary's at the very last game of the year. They have to win at least one of those to have a chance. They're not getting Kentucky. I'll tell you that I don't think Kentucky's nearly as shiny as you do right now, sir, but you're probably right. They're gonna annihilate Gonzaga.

Though in the Pac twelve number eleven Eras took off a double digit halftime deficit to roll past Stanford eighty two to seventy one. One of the many teams that Joe Lenardi believes should be in front of Kansas on the s curve, Arizona has a very underwhelming resume. They have the same record as Kansas and their conference is horrendous. So even though they are in first place, they're eight and three in that league. They're going to win the Pac twelve.

They did beat Duke at Cameron, and they beat Wisconsin by a lot. I don't know how much you think of Wisconsin right now, but they lost to Purdue. They lost the Florida Atlantic. They've lost a handful of Pac twelve games. Whatever. Arizona's not better than Kansas either, But Joe Lenardi gonna Joelnardi. How many teams could Joe Lenardi rank ahead of Kansas. He could fit like fifteen teams between the gap and his front two teeth.

That's how many teams that he would put in front of Kansas. That's pretty tough draw for Leonardi. In December, a tough draw for Ryan. He called the twenty win team like five wins. They love they are, and they're not going to get to three overall. They've won one game since two months ago, December third, which was against Central Arkansas. Nick, what a Central Arkansas mascot? They're the Bears. Wow. Like a grad assistant on Central Arkansas. He was a team manager for a while. He and

four friends. He and four friends could beat Missouri because they are horrendous. They're so bad. And what did Kansas being by like seven. It was pretty not good. Were as bad as the teams in this next segment though, can't Ryan read the next segment? Oh sure, all right? First the good news in the that's okay in the department. Louisville beat Florida State and dropped a hundi on them in the process. But that's about where the

good news for these horrible teams ends. Because DePaul is oh and eleven and begies play. They are three and nineteen overall, which Mississippi folks, means they went three and eight in non con yes against and I think there wins are Chicago State, Louisville, and somebody else in the WCC. I'm sure Mississippi Valley State had a chance against Arkansas bind Luff but lost by six. They're own twenty two and Detroit Mercy O and twenty four twenty four games twenty

four els. Yikes, quite bad ranked teams to lose. It's the last show. Number one in our hearts forever Houston. They lost to Kansas number six, Minnesota's neighbor to the east, Wisconsin number seven. I actually didn't know this happened because there this wasn't published at all. This wasn't like this game. But number seven Duke, they actually be They actually lost them North Carolina. Remember taking time, They didn't really publish articles about the game.

They just published articles about how they're having like an orgy at this time. All they did was talk about it's the most matchups between top ten teams ever, Duke and North Carolina. Great. Nobody cares, nobody like they call it the best rivalry in sports. No, it's not. Nobody outside of that state really cares. They watch. It doesn't mean they care. Number ten Kentucky again lost to Tennessee UND twelve five was State. They lost the

Baylor. Number fifteen, Texas Tech lost to Cincinnati number seventeen. Utah State lost to San Diego State, Good League number twenty three. Oklahoma lost to UCF number twenty five. TCU lost the Horns down last weekend pick on Land and closing the gap. He'll still blow it. Watch ask Rock Chalk Blog what we've done good on time today? Boys? So I think that means we can read our normal arsenal of questions and there are a lot so buckle

down here we go at cam Levault Golf. Tough scene for Nick. What's more inevitable Furfey to the league or Purdue losing before the Elite eight. Yes, and yes, no, not even needing to add anything on I got it that well. Uh, Purdue is more likely. Uh yeah, Purdue is definitely not. I mean we know this by now. This could be the year Perdue makes a Final Four run their boundary. Zachi d will not leave Purdue until they get out of the second weekend. That's why he's been

there since the sixties at DKG Underscore High Life. Does Furfey leave for the NBA? Yes, he's more likely after every game. Yeah. Next question, will al Marco Jackson transfer? I say yes, becomes more likely after every game. And number three, will Timberlight transfer? He cannot, he's out of eligibility, but he will not be back. He might transfer to an insurance firm at not the experts. Longtime listener, first time caller. If they made a movie about KU basketball, who would play Bill self?

And why is it? Ryan Reynolds not bad all things considered, that's a that's not accurate. Really, you don't think so? Personality wise? Kevin's Ryan Reynolds, I mean personal it personality snarky or jokey what Bill's self isn't snarky. He's really snarky, but he's not Ryan Reynolds snarky. Kevin James is pretty good going from Sean Payton to Bill self as an adjustment. Ray Romano if Ray Ramono, the Midwest accent and the stutter, I mean,

that's pretty good. That's also not bad. Landon sounds like a big Ray Romano guy I used to be. And now the more sitcoms and more everything that I watch, I realize everybody else everybody loves Raymond not a great show. Oh wow, wow, Hey, you and my wife would agree with that. Looks like he has a two pay yes to get it. That would work. That would work. Jason Bourne as Bill self would be pretty fun at Rock chalk A. What do you Brad? Now, we're just

going with everybody loves Raymond references? Doris can play, Yeah, there you go at rockshok aj. What do you think about Paramount Plus's new Super Bowl commercial. It's the one with Sonic the Hedgehog and uh and Tua taga Ailoa and like you have you seen those where like they're all on the mountaintops. It's like all the different shows that I saw Josh throwing the ball over a mountain with like door pig. I think I missed the h a pig. I didn't. I don't know if I saw the sonic one. Let me

tell you something about Paramount plus Folks Total and Complete Buns Total service. That app sucks. I wanted to watch Ku and Iowa State on CBS. They advertise live CBS and I get on that Paramount stupid app and they're like, you have to download the CBS Sports app to watch live CBS. Constant, No, it's not. They just lied. I almost yeaded my iPad out at thirty five thousand feet up there. It's ridiculous, crazy at Dick Underscore

taser. You young blood's ever been to Mexico? Best country ever? And I've been to a pun's ton of them. Never left the country. Have you guys left the country? I know Landon hasn't in Mexico. Yeah, what do you think, sir? Are you? Are you a Mexico guy? I'm not thin, beaches type of person, so not really preach anything old I figured Nick would like. So I'm surprised you're not like a beach

guy. But I know I've heard that Wayne is saying this because, of course, Kay, you and Houston are playing in Mexico in December of twenty twenty four. Uncle Wayne Pace, this is hilarious, he says, Uncle Wayne pays for airfar airfare. You guys in for an ITP field trip figured tickets probably only forty paysos or so. Absolutely, I do not have a passport. I need to yet one. But what I would go anywhere in the world with Uncle Wayne. For sure? I would Uncle Uncle Wayne flying

me down to Cancun. Yeah. Yeah, I need to get a passport, which I do not know though it's in Mexico City. Yeah. He says, you can do slash get anything in Mexico anything, and then actually says, any of you guys have a passport? And why the hell is Kansas playing in Mexico? How is there a basketball market there? Yes, that I've read that that you actually played in the Basketball World Cups, though it's not gonna count as a conference game, and then they're gonna still play

two conference games. I think, like, why, why Houston? Why not just have Kansas and Houston play a doubleheader with marquee teams in another conference at that point, Yeah, that feels way more logistically, like, that makes way more sense. I guess. I guess with that you'd have to

travel like four teams down there. But still those planes are big, sir, let's I'm sure we can squeeze John Caliperi's squad on there and and Bill can beat him in the final four minutes again at Rockshock aj Can you guys please talk about these Furfey stats real quick? And why is he the greatest Jayhawk to ever walk the earth? That's his last six games, sixteen points, eight rebounds, sixty five percent from the floor and fifty five percent from

three. Good lord, he's ridiculous. Yeah, that's uh, that's league level stats. There will be a skid in there, there will be a seven or eight game colder stretch. But yeah, he's clearly he's he's gone nuclear in the last few weeks at Kate Eeden fourteen. Oh my gosh, Okay Land and this is a this is a landing take, I think, so argue with it. I would rather play Djankovic than Timberlake. Your thoughts, uh, I mean, Timberlake is way more athletic than Michael Djankovic,

But I would have genuinely. There is no confidence that Mike Jankovic would hit more threes than Nick Timberlake. Uh not actually probably, but I would. I still kind of would like to see it. I'd like to see a little jank I'd like to see a little jenk in real game action. Nick, how would that go bad? Probably? But maybe Nick one? Well, I think it's a little difference having him yeat threes at the very end of blowouts and it is actually thinking he's gonna do it from the start,

Nick, do you want Timberlake or Djankovic? If those are your options? Djakovic? Wow. Even Uncle Wayne Kerr says, sorry, so weird to say that, But man, you might be right at this point. He's definitely a better shooter. I'm still riding with Timberlake. I think this team's best chance the get bench production is by playing Timberlake. That's a horrible statement, but it's true. It really is. At Show Me Hawk. At Show Me Hawk. There are rumors at the SEC and Big ten could break

away from the NCAA. Will be very interesting to see if that Faris Kansas better for football and basketball in the future, Yeah, the sooner they get away from the NCAA, the better they have to figure out a tournament. But I've got to think at some point somebody would figure that out, or

these leads get so big that we just get league tournaments. Yeah, I mean, I think I still think the most likely outcome is that what is currently like the Power four just goes on to be its own thing, and then like what we get an SEC tournament, a big twelve tournament and like the final four is the winner from each or in each league or something. No, I think like maybe maybe you just shrink down to like a I don't know how many it would be. Maybe you do like a twenty four

team playoff or something like that. You'd have to find a unbiased Chris Reynolds led selection committee, which the NCAA provides right now. But you know, well, yeah, I think that I think the NCAA's days of being in charge are coming to an end very quickly. But there's good You see, the the SEC Big ten sort of reminiscent of the quote unquote alliance that fell apart in like an hour, thing that they agreed upon. They're doing like

a basically like an advisory committee with each other. So they're so they're interested in one another. They're not at that love stage yet, but they like each other. Not yet stage. Yeah, Okay, let's see. It's getting a little more serious now, is what you're saying. It's there, and you know I haven't even gonna have I'm not even gotten close to that far. No, Yeah, I'm saying it's it's sorry, it's it's it's the post Land, It's it's where Lynn and wants to be, it's the

it's on the other side of the bridge at Cope. Fraud more likely to happen Kansas fans having faith this team is going to be better that after being mediocre in January, Kansas being favored at Houston, not that one, or al Marco Jackson becoming Remy Martin at the time of the NCAA Tournament. Oh my god, there's a better chance Kansas is a seventy five point favorite at Houston per Ken Palm than Almarco Jackson turning into Remy Martin in the NCAA Tournament.

Yeah, I think my hand is forced to be the first one. It is, But man, I wish that I wish that wasn't a thing at Rockchalk AJ What current NBA team would be the best fit for the current for the Kansas Kangaroo. Any of them that like players that can shoot? Uh? Yeah, I think I don't. I generally speaking, like NBA, I don't follow NBA rosters anywhere near close enough to know where he would like slot in nicely. Uh about the pistons. He can start on the

pistons right now, let's roll with it. If he wants to win all of like fourteen games next year, he's sure. Yeah. A couple more from AJ here. How was your date with Ryan's grandma Slash? How was Alan? And was it as loud as it seemed on the TV? Alan was really loud. It was really fun. I like Ryan's grandma. If you're listening, Beth had a great time. She's super fo Yeah. No,

it was a great, good date. That's the Yeah. And you're gonna hear a couple of comments that make you go really okay every time you go to a game. Yeah, not like in a bad way, just like I'm surprised that's what popped in your mind while you're watching a basketball game. Although she did turn to me right after they announced Furfey in the starting lineup, and she goes one and done, so she really wow. So even Grandma knows Furfy's not gonna be here for too long. She's right.

Also, I'm amazed you could hear that she does like to talk during the announcements and that's the loudest part of the game. And I'm lucky if I get away. She's such a ladies. She's so short that I'm not even like that tall, but I have to like basically borderline sit down to hear you just get the tap on the shoulder and that means squat down. So I can tell you something, yes, several Yeah, yeah, I know that very well. Yeah. At Stefan Timmy seventeen. How much of this

win was coaching? Oh, this is a good question on the double teams bill self, and the players seem to know exactly where the open man would be every play, and by the time they could adjust, the lead was already in double digits. Yes, very good point there. Kay. You clearly scouted Houston very well. Their strategy going into this game was we're gonna let Houston shoot threes more than we're gonna let them drive to the cup.

Some of that was Houston feeling like they fell behind and they had to catch up with threes. But Kansas was okay letting Houston jack threes. I suspect it was probably pretty similar on the defensive scouting report as it was in Iowa State. They got burned up there. They didn't get burned against Houston. And on offense, they put on a clinic. They knew exactly who to

move the ball to. Yeah, I think I think offensively, Bill self did drop a really excellent game play, and then defensively they decided to essentially, I think let Furfey try to hold his own and then he just did. Yep, yep, one more Furfey. Question at Drew Walton, is Furfee better than Dick? No? I still say no. Grady Dick was so much more polished man. Grady Dick was a better shooter too. As

good as Furfee shooting, Grady Dick was was. There was no player that I've seen ever at Kansas get more defensive attention to shooting the ball than Grady Dick. He was face guarded over and over again in those matchups. He was shooting fifty percent until they started face guarding him every time. Grady Dick commanded so much attention the rest of the team did so little to help him. The rest of the team was so poor for his skill set. That's

why he was guarded so much. Just put another decent shooter out there, and he would have been so so much more open. The floor would have been even higher. I think Furfey has a higher ceiling, though I don't know if that's true. Grady Dick is the best shooter I've seen play at Kansas. Yeah, but he's done nothing in the league. I mean, yeah, but you think Furfey would be something in the league, And halfway through his rookie season, he's developing as quickly as I've ever seen a Kansas

player develop since Joelle. Yeah, I think you're right. Who is done for a while? I think what is the chance that Furfey comes back for a second year? Right now? It's probably fifty to fifty, but it is dropping fast. Yeah, and that's yeah, that's down from like seventy percent chance he comes back like two weeks ago. And also, you want him to be good. You want that percentage to drop because if that percentage gets worse, it means he's not playing as well and therefore Kansas is worse.

Correct, Yeah, you want him to be like a top five pick in the draft. Since yes, you want you want to have the top five picks in the draft. You want to be Kentucky, uh and not win a title. I guess at Travius ninety go or Robert Morris. Final question from Travius ninety nine. I feel like el Marco, a freshman, deserves more leniency from the fan base compared to Timberlake, a senior. Am I wrong? I have a take on this. I want you guys's takes

not completely wrong. I think that there's some validity that Landon. I don't know. I definitely get the take. I mean, you know it would stand the reason that it would take Jackson a lot longer or just longer to develop, whereas Timberlake, you recruited him to be a already established, already developed you know, Nick, Timberlake was supposed to be McDonald's. Maybe not sensational, but you know exactly what you're going to get and it's ready for

you. Al Marco Jackson might be more like a nice aged cheese. But I don't know. I think they're both not good, so I don't know how much matters. I agree with your point in the sense that Timberlake was brought in to do one thing and he has been a huge disappointment for that. Al Marco Jackson is a freshman and there are obviously expected to be more

growing pains. Timberlake, being a proven player, was thought to be a safer player, and Timberlake was chosen and as a result of them getting him, they did not go after guys like Jalen t and guys they could have used because they thought they filled the shooting void. So that in that sense, yes, However, el Marco Jackson's getting worse. Al Marco Jackson is a worse player right now than Nick Timberlake in just about every way. Al

Marco's giving them nothing. When Timberlake is on the floor, even though he doesn't make very many threes, they still guard him. They don't leave him open. They see the shooter, and he commands defensive attention. That's more than Almarco commands. Also, Timberlake doesn't turn it over a lot. Timberlake doesn't foul a lot, turns it over some, not as much as al Marco. Al Marco's the worst player, I agree, I agree. I

don't know if it's by so much that it matters very much. I also think Timberlake could bust out at any moment, Like, would it stun you? I would it be surprising, Yes, you're not expecting it. But would it stun you if Timberlake shot forty percent from three the next five games? No, it wouldn't really. Okay, well maybe it would. Maybe I'm not there yet him doing in college. Yeah, but it's just been

so bad at Kansas. It's been really disappointing because he was good in the exhibitions and he was good in the first game, and we thought, oh, there's a guy that's gonna average ten off the bench immediately or did he start? Did he start? Oh? No, it is al Marco. Alm Marco started until the Marco started. Okay, yeah, all right. Do you ever have asked arcb's us a Twitter hashtag ask arcb? Next question will probably be the return of a nick would you rather question? Stay tuned?

He wait? I know it's your favorite, but you know what's Landon's personal favorite is whenever this game happens and we get to play that song number eight Kansas, It's gonna go up to like three at Kansas State. It's the Sunflowers showdown in Manhattan at the Octagon of Doom Monday night, February fifth, eight o'clock, not on ESPN plus. Fran will be there wearing nothing but purple thong oh Kent State. They're fourteen and eight overall, four and

five in league play. They've lost four to zero and five of the last fourteen wins have come in overtime, so they're pretty lucky that it's not worse than it is. They are ten and two at home this year, but their losses not great ones to Nebraska and Oklahoma, and they were bad losses. They were twenty point ls pointyard Tyler Perry averages fifteen points and five assists

per game, but he struggled to turnover since conference play started. He is a horrendously inefficient player that shoots just thirty three percent from the floor overall this season. Wild Kat's best player is two guard Cam Carter, who leads the team, was sixteen points at night. Neither Carter or Perry shoot better than thirty one percent from three, which means you can clock in three for five each. Right now, is this data? Ames had no idea that they

that was his real name. That's awesome and Dorian Finister are the guards of note that come off? Who are the old name teams? Sorry? Nick, I just totally freight trained you. Yeah they have. We have a Dayda Thomas and a Dayda Aimes. We got a Gisel James Milan Momsilievich has gotta be right up there. That's pretty good. Who is that guy from Cincinnati that you just said they got a lot of contenders, the guy that that made all those baskets and helped them beat Tech. Oh oh yeah,

that was a good one. Yeah, it's just right up here. Uh that was the by guy. Yeah, yeahs. I think it's the only b YU player not named Spencer. I think is is that guy that you read Kansas? And what's Kansas's coolest name? Is it? Is it? It's Furfy? Right, yeah, Johnny Furfy. Probably not a lot of super interesting names on the team this year. No, not not not as entertaining. Okay, next, sorry, go back to Yeah, well I

think that at that point the battle has already been lost. But we have several names, okay, Nick. Anyway, from Creighton transfer, Arthur Khaluma is case State's best three point threat. He plays the three and averages fifteen and seven while shooting thirty eight percent from deep. Fore Man David and Gasan and center Will mcneers junior shoot high percentages and both add about seven points and six rebounds per game, but neither have been able to fill the absence of

Nakwon Tomlin void in the front court. Case. State is a good defensive team that's sawid on the glass and has been excellent with interior defense. Their poor non conference schedules help those numbers. They have not played one hundred distens in an Esque caliber opponent to truly test their front court. They're poor across the border offense, shooting thirty one percent from three as a team. We'll steal about that on Monday. Probably going to be the opposite of that,

probably like sixty one. They commits fifteen turnovers per game, which is among the country's worst. Excuse me, they don't necessarily play at a super low so pace, but they turn the ball over so much they get real latively low numbers of shots up. Kansas has dominated this rivalry over the years. Shocker they'll sell thirty nine and six against the Wildcats in his time as Kansas head coach and fifteen and five in Manhattan won sixteen to the last eighteen matchups

in the series. They did lose at Brambridge last year. One of Jerome Tang's ten overtime wins was that game. Nick just drove that thing, man. That is code for I am tired and I'm ready to go to bed. Is whenever Nick reads three paragraphs in a row, all right, prediction time got first. I'm gonna go first, and I am going to predict a handy Kansas win. This is a matchup between two teams in opposite directions, and I have predicted Kansas to lose out there or the games to be

closer than a lot of people in the past. I don't see it happening this year. Case State has put up battles the last couple of years against KU and played over their heads. This is two teams going in opposite directions. This feels like a team that comes out and shoots way too hard, tries way too hard to turn their season around on one night and it just falls flat. They turn it over a lot. Kansas has been feasting in

transition recently in the half court offense. Whenever they get there. I don't think Kansas State can slow down Dickinson without Nakwon Tomlin, I think Kansas wins a game it's in complete control the whole second half. Kansas seventy seven, Kansas State sixty one. Yeah, I think I think you'll see a good

if. Maybe I don't know how sleepy you can be in Bramwich. I guess I think it'll be a quiet second half sandwich between two huge games in Allen Field House for the Jayhawks. But I do think they're going to win. Give me Kansas seventy two sixty five in a game that maybe Case State gets up for a little bit earlier but can't really contend with Kansas over the stretch of the game. I think the Jayhawks will overpower them. Look for I mean, per usual, It's not really been a prediction at this point,

but Hunter Dickinson's gonna have a good game. I could see Johnny for a few maybe having a slower night. I think that is I'll roll without my interesting prediction, but yeah, Kansas wins in a game that is probably not as close as the scored say. Yeah, I'm waffling on what I wanted to site here. I think Kansas could theoretically come out a little bit rough, just because of that small turnaround time. They have five guys who

are playing thirty seven minutes per game. But I think that this game, like Ryan said, the trajectories a case State's just not being good, Kansas heading in a different direction. I think that Jayhawks end up coming in and getting a pretty commanding win. Give me Kansas seventy six, Kansas State sixty five. I also think that this is the game where the three point luck

starts to swing back. Kansas has allowed forty seven percent from the three point line and the three losses they've had the last month, this has got to be where it turns around. Kansas State is the worst three point shooting team in the Big Twelve. They're just not going to see their opponent shoot fifty percent every night. It's just not gonna happen. This feels like the game where it spends back around Case State has a bad shooting night, and I

don't know how they slow down Hunter Dickinson. I don't so as long as Kansas doesn't forget that number one exists, I like their chances, And honestly, this feels kind of weird. So this maybe whenever I am exposed and proven to be a fool. But this is the least concerned I've been about a Kansas at Kansas State game in quite a while. I think they roll well. All these predictions like that have never bit us in the past. Never. I'm not even gonna look at the soundboard to see if there's any

Finally check one time this season against the team in Florida. Yeah, oh yeah, no, that would that would never happen. Art And in fairness, Kansas was in complete control of that game. Let's see him get up sixteen to blow it again. It's like the SpongeBob mean, you want to watch me do it again? And ain't gonna happen. Big twelve games, these rankings will all shift. Houston probably goes up a few numbers, right, I mean you can't. You can't knock them for that game at Yeah,

you might as well put them at one at this point. I mean they are Yeah, they're one, They're one, and everything that matters, we know that. But they do get a layup of a game this week Oklahoma State at number four. Houston who here wants the pokes? Not me? Though I actually do think this game could be a snak keep it close I don't. ESPN says Oklahoma State has less than a one percent chance to win this game. That's not true. They played it one hundred times.

Oklahoma State would win twice. I think so, But yes it will. This will not be one of those two times. It will be Houston. Number twelve Iowa State at Texas. God, I'm so bad at Texas games. They're oh and three at in the league at home and three and oh on the road or something like that in the last six games. I think, but I don't know. I think Texas. I'll take times. I'll

take Texas, yeah true. Number twenty two BYU at Oklahoma. I do think, oh, you as Buns, But I think that BYU isn't roadworthy and to get back to back dubs, I'll take the Sooners and hate myself for it. Yeah, same, I don't like that, but I am taking them. I'll take BYU and number fifteen Texas tex Oklahoma sorry at home going against the fighting Mormons here that's all of us. And number fifteen Texas

Tech at number eighteen Baylor. I am a big fan of the Bear so I feel very confident in taking them, But you guys, maybe not so much. I do think they win. I actually think they roll in this game. You say, I already said they're winning other games. Mountain West Action Number nineteen, New Mexico at Wyoming maybe the two least exciting states in the country. I think Wyoming wins at home. New Hampshire exists, but uh give me Wyoming New Mexico. Number twenty four. Alabama at number sixteen

Auburn rivalry game. Ken Palm has very different opinions of these teams. What say you, I think the Tigers win. I agree, Yeah, I do too. I'm a big fan of Bruce Pearl's roster. Number thirteen Creighton Providence. Tough game here for the Blue Jays, who have not had good luck. But I will say they went on the road and I hate it. Give me the Frars close. I'll take Creighton. How about this for a fun one? Texas A and M at Missouri. Is this the night

for the Tigers? No? No, no, I thought that'd be more climactic. Here's an upset for you. Number eleven, Arizona at Utah. Give me the Utes Wildcats. I'll go with Utah, all right, So our next show coming out later in the week, and then we gotta figure out what we're gonna do for the Super Bowl, because the stupid Jayhawks played the day before in the day after the Super Bowl, don't they. Surely that weekend's not gonna be a bad one. Baylor Chiefs played the forty nine

ers, and then KU has a game against Texas Tech. I think it's the Lubbit game, yeap in Lubbock. Surely there's no three l's in that. Hey. I feel pretty confident there'll be at least one dub I just hope there's one that I that I'm a little more focused on than the others. Landon's like, no, I hope the Cheese lose Go Lions. Yeah, I honestly would not mind if brock Party won the Super Bowl. I hope the game is fifty six to fifty five and the Chiefs win, but

brock Party has seven touchdowns. Wow, that's yeah, okay, boat on that one. This is insact. I am Ryan Landreth, and I am not a fan of the metric and the nerves. I am so tired, so am I. But I'm a broad pretty fan, I guess too. All Right, everybody behave himself, especially if you go to Mexico. With Wayne Kerr, behave yourself. What could happen on that trip?