ITP: Late surge pushes Kansas past Indiana at Assembly Hall

Another win for Kansas, this one coming an enemy territory and another podcast host rotation change. I keep thinking we're gonna have all three of us and still a two man show, but the not the one that you've been used to here in the last few few episodes. Landon, you are you have returned? You have returned from illness? How are you? That's the guy who might have herpes? To you, sir, that's right, that's your new

name. Whenever I'm Ryan Landrus, I have herpes. That's the way it's going to be the rest of the of the introductions, right this show at least, well, we'll give it one. But yes, I'm back, and I am feeling quite a lot better. Thank you. Happy to be so. You are sick for like a week and a half, right, Like everybody in Kansas has some sort of respiratory ailment. Right now, I feel like and you did not evade it. No, yeah, quite the

opposite. Yeah, it was a solid like I'm still not even one hundred percent over and I can still feel it in the back of my throat a little bit. It's just like significantly better. Yeah, basically had like canker stores in the back of my throat, and there was like two viable options. One was like a hand foot in mouth type thing and one was herpes. So I think it's the first one, but it could technically be the second one. Yeah, well, I mean, and that's then that's that's

your business, sir. We joked about how you went on a couple of dates and that's what you came back with. It would be a very you bad luck. It would be a very you thing to happen, right, to have that take place. It's just to you finally get to get to have a couple of illustrious dates just in time to bring herpes back. Yeah, that would that would be right up my alley. And hey, sir, at least you caught something, unlike Kadarius Tony who every time they threw

him the vaull. Today there it goes. And that was also Trey Galloway shooting a game tying would have been game tying three off the rim, which I can't believe missed. I know that looks so in, It felt so in. That just felt like a ball that was never going to miss, and then it did. And so Kansas gets a break. This is inside

the paint on rock chalk Blog with This is not a football podcast. It is a basketball one, though, and we're here to talk all about well just about everything everything else, everything k basketball and their big win over Indiana. I am Ryan Landrath, and I'm the guy that might have herpies. No Nick today, he's dealing with some family stuff. We hope to have

him back, probably one more episode before Christmas. I got to think at some point we get we get some sort of post Yale show in before the holidays, and whenever that happens, then maybe we'll have our full rotation back. But hey, until then, you get the two of us. The holidays are near, let's talk about a big road win for your Kansas basketball Jayhawks number two Kansas seventy five, Indiana seventy one. So, Lanta, you haven't been on the show for a couple of episodes. They didn't look

particularly impressive in either of the games you missed. I think you missed MKC and Missouri. And then they end up beating Indiana, but albeit not by the most comfortable of margins either. Your thoughts not only on this game, but also on all of the other kind of storylines that have come out of the last couple of weeks that you missed. Yeah, it's not been a

very explicitly impressive stretch for the Hawks, that's for sure. I think on one of the last two shows, Ryan, you were talking about how it feels like we're not learning a ton necessarily about Kansas. I think we are learning. Maybe we're not learning I think a ton about maybe the team's ceiling and floor necessarily. But I do think we're learning that as we've talked about a lot on the show this season, that the two guard spot is just

who knows what that is right now? Like who do you trust? Why are guys playing, wire guys not playing? It seems like Nick Timberlake is not gonna work out. It seems like el Marco Jackson is definitively gonna be your first option at that spot, and I think that should be the case. Yeah, there's some weird things, definitely some weird things going on with this team. I still think it's a very good basketball team. I don't think the way UMKC or Mazoo went or excuse me, Kansas City, not

UMKC, Kansas City. I think the way those games went is not really indicative of Kansas's like overall quality necessarily, But then again, I mean, how many close games can you have before that's just kind of who you are. I don't know, I think I think it's impossible to really take too much away from the last stretch until we'll get to conference play. I think that's when you'll really learn about who this team is. But yeah, it's

it's been, it's been weird. I think against teams like UMKC Eastern Illinois, they just kind of can't be made to care very much. I think it's gonna be I think it's really tough for that team to actually get up for games like that. They blew up Manhattan and NC Central I think woke up the next day and decided they could not care less about teams that don't have a number or are from a major conference, which is fair. It's fair. Not easy to do that, yeah, especially when you know you're

gonna win or almost certainly are going to win games like that. Obviously, Indiana, that's a really tough environment. A pretty solid team, good if not great. You know, they're not elite, but they're still very solid, very competent basketball team in a very tough place to play. So that being close, not to worry. Very resilient effort, even if there were some concerns in there for sure. Well, and we looked at the schedule after they got out of Maui and we thought this team's about to go on

a winning streak. At that point. We looked at their next ten games and we thought that while they be favored in all of them, nine to one may have been considered the most likely, but you and I both thought there was a good chance they were gonna go ten. And oh, they've cleared the first half of that ten game stretch. Eastern Illinois, Yukon, Kansas City, Missouri, and at Indiana three absolute layups in there, but also Yukon at home was their toughest game, and at Indiana being the road

game. Now we set our sites on the next five, which are Yale at home and which test date at the Sprint cent are very unlikely to see a loss there. TCU at home, they should win that. At Central Florida, a team that is almost exactly ranked via kin Palm, where this Indiana team they just beat is, but it won't have the same atmosphere, to say the least. And then Oklahoma at home, who's currently ranked eleven and is undefeated. But also, I don't know if the next time Oklahoma

at home scares you will be the first. They're going to continue to win way more often than they're not. And at this point, would if you were betting on five and oh in those five games or any other outcome Yale which tuest eight TCU at UCF Oklahoma, are you betting on five and oh oh, I'd have to Yeah, I don't know how you would bet against that. I mean, Oklahoma's giving Kansas a scare now and again in Allen, but they haven't come in with a win ever. So yeah, it's

got to be the five and oh to bet on. And if they do that, their next two games after that would be at Oklahoma State and at West Virginia, who are the two worst teams in the Big Twelve. So let's just go ahead and really stretch it out. And this may be predicting a lot. This is predicting three road wins and four other homer neutral site wins, so that may be a little ambitious, but let's just say they win their next seven games, which again are Yale which TOUS eight TCU at

UCF Oklahoma at Oklahoma State now West Virginia. Then that gets you to seventeen and one with a five and oho conference record, and I'm not sure at that point. I don't think you're ever playing from behind in the Big twelve race, and seventeen and one you have been favored in every game you've played this year. Yeah, there's gonna be some eight point wins in there, But like the they win, right, that's kind of all that matters, at least in my book. Like, that's they win. I don't care

how good Indiana was. I don't care how how much they should have won that game. By winning that game. And Jay Wright, who has two rings in which he beat Kansas twice in order to get each, Jay Wright said after the game on CBS the same thing. I don't care how many points they win by. That's championship DNA that Kansas has by winning a game like this. You kind of agree with that little cliche, but I think it's truthful. No, I think it is. I think it's very impressive

to go into very rowdy environments and come from behind and win. As we'll talk about let's get into it a little bit. Kansas trailed for the first thirty five minutes of the game, falling behind by eight halftime and down by as many as thirteen early in the second half. Every time it seemed like they were making a push, the Hoosiers, or more specifically Trey Galloway, who had twenty eight of his own answer, they would extinguish the momentum Kansas

had. But over the last twelve minutes it was a thirty one to seventeen game ending run that saw Kansas take a lead with five minutes left and pull away in the final couple minutes. Made some big free throws, some big buckets at the end. But yeah, I think all that they have shown a very good ability to close this season so far, and that's been very important. They finished games very well, even games where maybe they shouldn't have

had to finish well, you know, Eastern Illinois and UMKC. They have and they've had a lot of resilience and they have finished very strong in putting people away, you know, except for Marquette, but that was a different kind of different circumstance there. But I do think that is championship DNA. Only Kentucky out of their ten wins, only Kentucky was really in doubt in the final two minutes, like I know this game, you needed a couple

of free throws. But at no point after they took the lead for the first time did I think Kansas wasn't gonna win that game. And it's been like that for every game they've played, with the exception of Kentucky. That one, you did need a a final minute couple that you needed a couple

of game tying threes to rim out. And I understand that that Galloway had a game tying three with thirty seconds rim out here, so maybe that's not totally fair, but it definitely didn't feel like they were gonna lose this game after they took the lead. They scored twenty five points over the final like like nine minutes in this game or something like that, And at least my opinion on watching it, the offense, it looked so hard to get the

offense to get going. You mentioned every time they look like that they were starting to put something together, they'd miss a couple of easy shots and Indiana would make a runout. Indiana was playing fast, especially early in this game, and I think they got tired as the game went along, but then all of a sudden. It was like offense just happened. All of a

sudden, everything was going in. Threes were going in. Hunter Dickinson's hook shot that had been cold for thirty minutes suddenly started finding all that and the free throws, with the exception of the one front end that mccullor missed, that was really good as well. Overall great win, also Kansas's first win ever at Assembly Hall. They haven't played there in thirty years, but they had been zero to three with two losses in the seventies and one of the

nineties. Very very few places, uh, in a school as illustrious, says Kansas. Can they say that they've played in a building at least three times and never have won. Well, now they can't say that about Assembly Hall because they wound up winning it. How good was that atmosphere though? What a what a weird arena. It's real narrow, like it looks like a concert hall in there, where all the seats are like right on top of each other. It looked like, yeah and very tall, Yeah,

very tall and not very wide. Yeah. I've always wanted to go to Assembly Hall. Maybe one day I'll make it out there. Yeah, it's a it's a weird place. It's a it's a neat looking place, and they obviously, I mean it's Indiana, so they love their hoops for sure. Yeah, they definitely kept it loud. And I know that Kansas is going to have a home and home with North Carolina starting next year, which

is awesome. But I want to know what we need to do to get them in Indiana to renew this series the next six years Missouri style, because that was so fun. Indiana fans loved coming to Allen last year. The Assembly Hall atmosphere is great, Like these are the matchups that need to happen. Whenever you watch teams like Duke never schedule games like this, it just really makes you wonder why. Like I know that teams want to rack up the wins, but these sort of games, these sort of atmospheres. That

place was packed. Kudos to the Indiana fans whose students are on winter break for still packing that place. The student section was full. It's what you come to expect at fog Allen whenever they play a Marquee blockbuster game like this right around the holidays are right around school, getting out awesome atmosphere to watch a game, and then yeah, it's got to be one of the two

three coolest arenas to watch at anywhere. I want to talk about KU fans, but let's go ahead and talk about these first two players, because they balled out, and then I want to talk about how the reaction after they did one mistake like miss a shot kind of leads me into my main point. So go ahead, tell me about Kevin McCorry. Let's start with the two heroes of the night. Yeah, mccullor. He led the Jayhawks twenty

one points. He did miss a lot of shots three of eight from the field, two to five from three, though he did a lot of his damage, most of his damage at the free throw line, where he was thirteen of sixteen, so he's still creating, still making things happen offensively for Kansas. He added six rebounds, forces and three steals in thirty eight minutes. He had to go ahead three and all of his clutch free throws down

the stretch. So, as usual, even though the field goal percentage was not great, McCuller was still very very good, a very Jalen Wilson kind of outing for McCuller. I'd say, great analogy. Yeah, you said three for eight. He was three for eleven. Actually missed three more shots, missed eight, missed eight shots. Correct, there you go, Yeah, three for eleven from the floor and then just one for six on two. So he struggled. He was not He was not what he normally is.

The Jalen Wilson bowling ball offense kind of comparison is really good. But McCuller one way, he's improved in each of his last four seasons seventy seventy three, seventy six, now eighty one. From the free throw line. He's become increasingly reliable, and he was great down the stretch in this game. Made couple got the role of the bounce in his favor on the two that wound up putting the dagger in Indiana's coffin and then switch the second one.

But McCully this year through eleven games, nineteen point seven rebounds, five assists, shooting fifty percent from the floor and thirty eight percent from three. That is an All America. He's one of the ten best players in college basketball. Really kind of gives you the ick to think of where Kansas would be had he not taken his name out of the draft. But yes,

all in all, spectacular game from him. And this is the sort of Jalen Wilson performance where you look at the stats and the shooting percentage isn't great, and you could point out a couple of moments where he made you scratch your head. But there's a reason why Jalen Wilson, all the teams he was on, they won a lot of games. Same thing with Kevin McCorry. There's a reason why every team he's on manages to win a lot of

games. Okay, Dickinson, go ahead, I'll go ahead and read those threats and give you the analysis here seventeen and fourteen for Hunter Dickinson, most of his damage came in the second half. He was eight for seventeen from the floor, which is about as poorly as you will ever see him shoot the ball. But in the final ten minutes he was four for four from the floor to shake off a bad start that featured a lot of miss bunnies.

He also said afterwards that he could save a baby in Bloomington and still get booed, which was pretty funny. Also said Kevin mccullor was his words, not mine quote well endowed in his postgame press conference, Kevin mccullar gives no damns, and I think that is just awesome. I kind of tie to the next point. You can analyze the basketball, I'll analyze the behavior.

The big forearm in front of the crotch against Kentucky, then the Indiana He's like pumping up the crowd, waving to everybody in the middle of a game. This is the sort of stuff that Bill self wouldn't allow if he wasn't so damn good. That's how he gets away with it. He backs it up. Why and he said it best. Dickens sads the game, said, there is nothing I can do that will make them like me, So why be a nice guy? Yeah? Why? Basketball is more fun

with a villain and seeing him get under everybody's skin. You know, it contributes on the status he does. Well. He's awesome. Love seeing the antics. He's my favorite. Yeah, I mean, and he is very good. He was he was not elite for a good portion of this game. But then yeah, he was extremely clutched down the stretch. I mean, it's just wild that like seventeen and fourteen is like, yeah, he

was alright, he was pretty good on the floor. He wasn't two for twelve, right, Yeah, I mean just like just absurd, just absurd how high his production is that that this stat line feels a little bit sleepy from him. Obviously the end was not He did have some massive buckets at the end, some big rebounds. Yeah, I mean, he remains very, very good. He doesn't do a lot of things wrong. I do think his defense could use some work. He's a little slow on defense.

He's at a position a little bit, but it's not so bad that it's it's given the other team free buckets all the time. But he's at a position a little bit. But uh, that's a minor nitpick in what is otherwise a dominant player and a guy like I mean, when was the last time that we've ever seen a guy just like fifteen and fifteen is borderline and expectation going into a night like this doesn't happen. No, I can't remember one. Seriously, maybe Udoka at the very end, but not not right

out of his shoot. So Hunter Dickinson is averaging nineteen point two points per game. That is third among any player that's labeled a fresh a forward or a center that plays for a power five team. So third among big guys in Power five leagues Power six. Really in scoring, he's the nation's leading rebounder. That's every player in D one basketball, twelve point seven rebounds a

game. No one has more than Hunter Dickinson, shooting sixty two percent from the floor, north of seventy percent at the line, throw out a couple of assists per game. Oh and by the way, the stat that I always hammer. Let's see how much you've been listening to the last shows. What is my favorite Hunter Dickinson attribute? I talk about it every game. One of the best parts of his game is how he doesn't what he doesn't

foul. I don't think correct, correct, He doesn't foul thirty two minutes a game last year, less than two fouls a game, thirty two minutes a game this year, one point five fouls per game. You can keep him on the floor for that much. Thirty eight minutes thirty five last time,

thirty eight against Yukon. Don't take that for granted. The reason that you don't remember a guy having fifteen and fifteen has just penciled and every night is because guys can't stay on the floor, especially big guys, without fouling. Enough to get that sort of minutes needed to get that production. Hunter Dickinson avoids foul trouble and it's his best attribute. But according to a couple of KU fans and the mentions, he's soft. Somebody helped me with Okay,

so yesterday. KU fans are great. They're passionate, they're knowledged, they are they love their team, and that's sports are all about. But yesterday was one of the worst Twitter days I've ever seen from KU fans. As the Jayhawks are trailing by a couple of possessions on the road in a brutal environment. The Twitter mentions and the Twitter timeline, you would think we're watching the Oak Hill Christian College team that lost to North Dakota State by one

hundred the other day. Hunter Dickinson is soft, Dwan Harris sucks. This offense is awful to watch. First round loss, second round loss. Bill self is stubborn. Well, you know what, I guess. I guess I'll give them that one. There was a lot of fake news on the timeline, but I will give them that. Coach Bill South the stubborn ass. But oh my gosh, people, what the hell do you want? The team's ten to one. They are the nation's best field goal percentage team.

No teams out there have a better field goal percentage than Kansas. And you complain about how the offense is hard to watch. The defense hasn't given up more than seventy five points more than twice this year, right, Marquette and Kentucky, and they won the Kentucky game. No, they gave up seventy three to Marquette. They've given up more than seventy five once. And

you talk about that defense not being able to guard anybody. Dwan Harris wins a national championship and it's, oh, he sucks, he doesn't have what it takes. Hunter Dickinson averages twenty one and twelve or whatever it is. He sucks, he's soft. What do you want? What do you want from these guys? They're eighteen to twenty two year old that go out there and win eighty five percent of their games. How can you complain about this?

And everyone I figured out what they want. They want perfection, that's right, Yeah, well darn klose they're ten and one almost. No, they want little them to never do anything wrong ever. They want them to play perfect basketball, perfectly until perfection happens. Well, on the point that you mentioned, Hunter Dickinson didn't have the best defensive game. Does he suck on defense? No, because the guy he's guarding is trying every minut as

hard as he has to put the ball in the basket. Kael where averages sixteen to ten. He's seven feet tall. He's pretty good. You could throw a lot of guys at him and he's going to get some points and rebounds. I just don't understand. I had people turn that I posted the Hunter Dickinson doesn't foul and that's a great part of his game, and people were replying saying, I wish he would because that's because he's soft. He doesn't get physical enough on defense. Like, okay, fine that somebody said

I'd like him to foul a couple more times a game. I trade that, Okay. Then guess what happens next when Hunter Dickinson listens to at Joe John Doe on Twitter and goes out and puts his hands on people and gets two fouls in the first and then Kansas falls behind because he's on the bench and can't play. There you go, yes, you can't have it all. It's just like Kau fans are great. They're great, and we're reaction areya as hell right? They lose a couple games, we get on here,

and I mean, geez, this drop exists. Damn. I guess the best about the best coach out there. But oh my gosh, it's like you forget who you're watching. Every game is the same. Kansas comes out kind of flat, they screw around a little bit, and then most of the time when the final horn sounds, Bill self is high fiving his assistance. That's what happens. I just don't know what else you want.

I don't know how many more titles they have to win, or how many more road games they have to win, or what they have to do to get you guys to just trust when they're down by six, hey, you know what, they might they still probably will win. They do most times. I don't get it. Help me, help me understand this, because I see Cheese fans doing this too. They're just so used to winning that it's it's almost like only winning by a few isn't good enough. Yeah,

that is what it feels like. It's a very weird thing. I think it is a winning entitlement thing that happens I think in some more extreme examples. Maybe I definitely don't think this is everybody, but I do think this happens. Some people make this too much their identity. Nick and I have talked about that a few times. But yeah, I mean it's really fun and I think even good to care about sports and things like this. I mean, I'm the guy that's done O kau basketball podcast for six years.

Like clearly, I'm totally down with that. But I do think there's some people that get too invested and therefore their day is either made or ruined by whether Hunter Dickinson plays good pick and roll defense or not, which is weird. Yeah, it's definitely a strange kind of phenomenon. It's one of those things that if you like time travel back to like sixteen forty, I think some people would be deemed mentally ill because of how much they care or yell

about a basketball team. But I mean, I get it. It is frustrating. I used to be like that, and then I decided not to care quite that much anymore because it was bad for me at a certain point. I wish most people would come to that realization. But that's okay. We're all on different paths. It's all right, it's fun to care. I'll definitely give you that, but yeah, it's a weird thing. I

agree with you, Ryan. I don't know how many times they have to see Kansas be down, but then oh wait, oh, they want anyway to believe that that might happen again, actually might happen yain the next time, even when it's you know, it's happened a hundred times, there's no reason to believe that it won't happen one hundred and first. It is very strange. This was a response, and this is a response on Twitter. I posted Hunter Dickinson is the best love how much he enjoys pissing off road

crowds. He does not give any dams and the response this is a response that I received here. Dickinson is soft, not a rim protector, can't finish around the rim, poor footwork in the post. Not a great pastor re bounds come flat footed. Needs to be better. Dude, what what what? Also, rock Chalk Blog gets criticized for not agreeing with Bill self by people on Twitter a lot. Bill Self said, Hunter Dickinson is the best passing big he's ever had, by the way, which I think is

like, just like observably true, can't finish strong around the rim? What are we watching the same guy? Oh, he doesn't finish at the rim? True, I don't think he finishes. Well, that's a different thing. It You can take it or leave it, and I will take hundred Diggins that footed rebounds are that's absurd. Who cares when he's bringing down sixteen of the things a game? There you go and somebody else says, I don't like it, just focus on the game. Well Andrew Wiggins did that.

And you know what people said about Andrew Wiggins. I wish he'd show some emotion. He doesn't look like he cares out there. He's wearing a Kansas jersey. He's supposed to be prideful. What do you want? You have guys like Hunter Dickinson and Christian Brown who go out there that are clearly so into it and so happy to wear that jersey that yeah, they a little over the top, And oh that's that's not We don't want that. We just want guys to focus and be classy. Well Andrew Wiggins didn't didn't

hurt a fly his entire time here, and he didn't care enough. I just I've dealt with this every year when Kansas loses a couple of games and I post on Twitter with eight games left and they're one game behind Oklahoma State, Who yeah, let's trust that, And I say, I bet you. Kansas still wins the Big Twelve, and I get one hundred responses of of five alarm fire level panics saying Nope, absolutely not. We'll be lucky

to make the tournament, will be an eight seed. Like I really don't know, Like like people on Twitter were saying this team shouldn't be ranked. People were saying they're overrated for losing, But at the time, halfway through a game, losing by eight on the road at India, I don't get it. And I don't understand how that's a fun way to root for sports. That it's a good way to have your heart combust whenever you're a the all caps response you know who I'm talking about, Like, I don't understand

how that can be anybody's choice of fandom. And because just where it's like you gotta just let go a little bit, Like you gotta just realize that this is just college basketball, Like there's so much more going on in the world that's so much more important than this. It's like, it's just for fun. At the end of the day. This is just communal entertainment. Not that there's no value, but you gotta just recognize it for what it is. And when you do that, it'll be so much more fun because

every game is just fun for the sake that it's happening. That's the fun is that we just get to enjoy this twice a week and it's great. And if they win, yeah, that's even better. If they lose, yeah, I might be a little bit annoyed that they've lost, depending on how it happens, but like, you know what, even if they lost, I got to sit and I have the privilege to watch Kansas basketball for two hours every few days. And that's what's fun about it. Yep,

it's well said. Something else you have the privilege to watch her are the refs, which I didn't win this particular case, because they are a rot that's true. That's fair. By the way, you can type in all caps and call the refs soft and overrated because they suck giant balls. They are a stinky bag of rotting trash that's been sitting in a dumpster forever. And you know what when the Barstool Indiana page says we got host and the

Barstool Kansas page says we got hosts, that's how you know. The refs gave each other a high five in the locker room after the game because they screwed. Nobody wins, nobody loses. No, I take that back, nobody wins and everybody loses with these officials. God are they awful? Awful, awful awful. Indiana got screwed on the biggest call of the game that ball didn't go out of bounce and like they called it at a bounce there

where they were fighting for possession on the misfree throw. But boy, there were too many fouls in this game. They were guessing so much. Hunter Dickinson is getting bottled up inside because you surround him with guys who aren't very good at shooting, and Indiana was just like, Hey, we're just gonna let them, or let's let's live with al Margo Jackson shooting threes instead of letting Hunter get two footers on on a one on one guy feels like the

smart strategy. But man, these big guys can't buy a call. That was awful all the way through. Kevin mcculler's third foul was one of the five worst calls I've ever seen in my life. And then they had a back to back sequence where Dickinson they didn't allow a play on They said nope, foul before Dickinson shot that. And then on the other end it may have been Mackenzie and Baco who like was fouled and then took three whole steps

after that before laying it in and the rest like and one. I can't figure anything they do or call out, but I will give them this. The charges have been better. We haven't seen as many of those. That's true. Actually I haven't really noticed that, which means three of them are gonna happen against Yale. Yeah, yeah, no, they're just they're just

asking it up within other ways. Don't worry. Okay, Well, let's let's talk about other things that made us screen Bloody Murder, Because Landon, had you been on the last podcast, I feel like you would have known this was gonna happen or help us predict it, because we all knew this

was gonna happen. With mister Trey Galloway, who hails from Culver, Indiana, and looks out every bit like it, because that man averaging eight points the game, went out there and put in twenty eight and after making three three, he's in the first ten games. What else is there to do then to make two of them in this game? But but, but, but but I feel like I'm hyper on today's show, the very last one

for the high could he make it? The widest guy in Indiana? I can't believe it was miss yeah, but he did a career high twenty eight points. He entered three for twenty two from three and then went two for three. Indiana was like five for nine at one point, and it was just maniacally laughing in my house trying to imagine how that happened. Whenever. That was an all time kind of white guy outing yeah, twenty eight, twenty eight points. But he missed the big one. He missed the one

that mattered most. All Right, we are falling behind on time here, so let's start to go faster. Here. Go ahead and tell me about kJ Adams, who was once again very good. Fourteen points, four events, three assists for kJ six for twelve from the floor in thirty six minutes. He was a huge reason why they didn't get blown out in the first half and then some I don't know if there's too much really to analyze here other than like his strength and athleticism just continues to be an invaluable tool for

Kansas. He's been fantastic and he's taken a leap forward even from last year in a lot of ways. I think, yeah, and it's real valuable because Bill self was watching Hunter Dickinson just get bottled up in the post and it feels like we start the game doing that and then sell us like, Okay, so you want to put two guys on him, I'm just going to drag him out by the perimeter and it's going to free up wide open

lanes for kJ. You can't do that the other way, which would be ideal, right if you had a kJ type player who could shoot mid range stuff, because then Hunter couldn't be left one on one in the paint. But he's doing the next best thing, and kj's pretty darn good at finishing at the rim himself, So yes, this was excellent kJ. I think we were right at the beginning of the year about them having a big three. They probably have a big four, but for now kJ is is their

third best player. I think at this point he's been great. I agree. Let's talk about three point shooting, because they were six for eighteen in this game shooting threes. It felt worse than that. They made some big ones down the stretch. It feels like this team's not very good shooting threes. That seems to be the twinter sentiment. And they've seen from the eye

test pretty okay this year. They had two good games to start, but on the season, Kansas is thirty eight percent three point mark, is top fifty in the country. Does it feel like it. It does not feel like it. They are percentage wise okay, and they've definitely made some clutch ones. They've made some big shots, but they are outside the top two fifty and threes made per game, which is less than seven and they are

bottom twenty five nationally and three pointers attempted per game. Now they are number one. Are they were? It's gone down a little bit. Their top five in field goal percentage and two point percentage. So they're getting a lot of twos. It's Bill Self's stream, right, but they're not taking a lot of threes, but they're making a decent percentage of the ones. They're shooting, so that begs the question forty seventh in percentage, three hundred and

thirtieth in attempts, should they take more? Uh? Yeah, I think so. I think they definitely should take more. A reason why they might not, though, is Nick Timberlay. Oh God, you missed two more missed a free throw in six really unfortunate minutes of basketball. I was higher on timberlake potential than you were coming into the season, Ryan, Yeah, and I jumped off it a lot faster than you did, I think. But I think he's really bad and I don't think he should get a lot

more chances. I think he's heading straight for averaging about three minutes a night in conference play. You know what interests me is it's not just Timberlake, who I think is the biggest disappointment of any of these guys. But Kansas has been great at landing high major players in a transfer portal. Dickinson with the mccullor Remy Martin great acquisitions, but they've been really bad at evaluating which talent on mid majors to bring in. Because Tyan Grant Foster was a JUCO

transfer and they were high on that that didn't work. Guys like Joe Yesafu that was considered to be a big piece for them coming from Drake and he never materialized. And Nick Timberlake is one that came from and he looked like a player. I still do have a little more confidence than you, because, like Geez, you watch his highlight tape of what he did at college and he's a he's a good player in these clips. I don't get it.

I kind of think that eventually he may become something for you. But but he's They've been kind of disappointing bringing in players from mid major teams and Timberlake's just been awful. Like he's been awful this year. This is a guy that shot forty pc from three in back to back seasons that has come to Kansas and since going three for five the first game is four for twenty one. Since in the last ten games he's shooting twenty six percent on threes.

Yeah, he's so you think this is that this ship has sailed. He's not gonna play very much in conference play. I doubt it. I'd be surprised. I just don't know how you can. I mean, they've Bill self is barely playing him against like mid majors and stuff offous. The Indiana's a lot better than that, But like Johnny Furfey and Almarco Jackson have been actively getting more minutes in the rotation, and even r McDowell had more

minutes and more run in this game. Yeah, but it takes forever for self to stop letting Timberlake run around like an idiot out there before he tries McDowell. I don't understand why McDowell's not coming off the bench way sooner than he is, just kind of going through those guys. El Marco Jackson twenty five minutes, scored five points on six shots. He hit a big three, played pretty good defense, but just not contributing much on offense at this

point. Only seven minutes for Johnny Furfey, who didn't do much, and then there was Jamary McDowell who didn't get run until the other guys had already gotten multiple attempts. But McDowell was really good. He made a huge three during their main run in the second half to finish with three points in eight minutes, had a really nice rebound that secured a possession in which they ultimately

went ahead. Like McDowell is better than Timberlake. It's inarguable the only thing I can think of is self thinks that Timberlake is the better long term piece for this team's success. But man, I don't know how much. I don't know how much you can keep doing this. McDowell's got to play more. He's got to play earlier too. Yeah, I think he does.

It's been weird because I understand like McDowell hasn't been doing a lot of flashy stuff, which is fair, but he's also been just consistently pretty solid. And I'm not sure why Bill self has just kind of stopped giving him run early in games like at all, because he's a very selfie player. Yeah, you think Bill self would like kind of that nose of the grindstone,

just do the little things well. And to be fair, he was kind of lost on a few defensive possessions like that is a thing that's noticeable. You'd still think you'd give him a shot. And I don't know why he's been getting less of one. He got more of one than he had the last couple of games in Indiana, and he made the most of it. Again, he played pretty well, So I don't know exactly what's going on there well, and then Parker Brown made a basket in two minutes. He

doesn't play much. That's Hunter Dickinson's fault. Parker has been perfectly fine this year. He just isn't going to play very much considering what he's dealing with. And anyone on Twitter who's telling me that part should play more and Dickinson should play less, stop please. I can't. I can't. I seriously will well off myself. I can't. I can't do it. The only guy we haven't talked about is the one Harris, who is probably Kaye's most

polarizing player. Twelve points, five assists, forty minutes played, did not sit on the bench at any point. He was five for nine from the floor, including a huge three and go ahead floater in the final five minutes. Kansas wins yet another game. I don't have the record. I know it's a lot and one. Whenever he scores ten points or more, there was stuff you could critique. There's also stuff that I'm sure that you're very

grateful that he's Kansas's point guard. But overall, this was the first time since the Kentucky game that to one Harris scored more than eight points. And they needed just about all of them to escape Bloomington with a win. Yeah, he was, he was still pretty good. It's been kind of a weird year for Harris. Does feel like he is. It felt like at times maybe you could argue he was regressing, But then again, I think his his passing and his defense has still been really good. Just a strange

year, but a very good game here for Harris. I think I do think you're going to need Dwan Harris to score tena Knight if you really want to get the most out of this Kansas team. He's got to score ten and Knight. Well, I mean, he's been worse than he was last year. That's inarguable. He hasn't been as good. But is it fair to say he's regressed or is that you're saying. If you're saying he's been worse than he was last year, that I think is inherently some level of

regression. But I also wonder if it's just kind of getting the feel of this team. It's different, right, last year's team was throw the ball to Jalen and Grady and get out of their way. This year's team isn't that simple. You have Hunter and he has great chemistry with Hunter Dickinson.

Those two do ridiculous hookup for some ridiculous passes, but everybody else, like you watch him past the guys like Jackson and and he just kind of like it's kind of like Patrick Mahomes throwing his receivers a little bit where whenever a miscommunication happens. A great example is when Dewan Harris was dinged with a turnover for throwing the ball to al Marco who moved out of the way because he thought that it was tipped. And it's like it was one of those moments

where Harris is looking at him like what are you doing? Like, no, you gotta do this. I have a hard time blaming Harris for stuff like that when he's playing with guys that just aren't used to this sort of system. And I think that his stats have taken a direct hit from basically anybody not named Kevin or Hunter that aren't converting a lot of the assists that he's shooting. His should have higher assist numbers, and he's not being set

up by these guys for as many open looks as he should be. They finally found him a few times as the game went on, but still overall, I don't know. With me, Harris feels like a guy who's kind of a product of the guys around him, other than two of them not

being as good as we thought they'd be. I think that's like a fair argument, but I mean, Harris, I feel like has been arguably even more tentative to shoot at times, and he's also been worse shooting inside than he's ever been, which is a weird thing to happen in your like fourth year in college. That's also fair, like he has he's not shooting quite

as much like everybody. Everybody talks about how the reason that he's such a high percentage three point shooters because he doesn't take very many of them, and I think that they're both right and wrong. He only takes open ones. I can't remember the last contested three pointer I saw to one Harris take, but he undoubtedly needs to take more semi contested once because he's shooting forty six percent this year. He's taken over one hundred and eighty three pointers in his

career, and he's made forty percent of them. Like he's he's been. He's he's too good of a shooter to not shoot as much to not shoot more Kansas in this game forty three percent from the floor, thirty three percent from three, seventy one percent at the line. They were minus two on the glass, which is kind of surprising when you have Dickinson going for fourteen and you're still a loser on the gold Well, that tells you just how

screwed they would be without soft ass Hunter Dickinson. Am I right, Yeah, I think you're gonna need that guy, I have. I Hunter Dickinson and soft. I don't understand how any of that could go together. Yeah, it doesn't seem terribly soft. There's also a distinction that we must have between uh is a little out of position sometimes on defense and soft. Those

are two entirely different things. Yeah, I don't think. And it also is weird that the same people that are criticizing Hunter Dickinson for talking trash and being completely unintimidated by road environments are the same ones that call him soft on the court. I don't get how that can be the case either. Yeah, that doesn't make the most sense to me. That does not seem like a soft trait whatsoever. But yeah, they just like to say that because

that's what Bill self says. So that's just what everyone says, but they don't know what they're talking about. Frankly, and you know what, Bill self has never called Hunter Digginson, not once, saw soft, not once, and he never will because Hunter Dickinson is not soft. But we're kind of soft at least your recovery. Definitely, Bill would. I would run the other direction. I wouldn't be I wouldn't get I wouldn't be on the court long enough to be called soft. I would just melt. Yeah,

I think that's about what would happen. I would run half of one suicide and leave. So Nick thinks that the five of us, which are the three of us plus Josh and Daniel, who are our former co hosts. He thinks that the five of us in forty minutes would score five points against Kansas. No, we would not. We would score zero though. Yeah, that's much more likely. I'm willing to say we wouldn't hit the rim. Really, I don't know how we're getting a shot off. It depends

on how intense defense they're playing. North Dakota State, who's like the two hundred best team in D one basketball, played a college a college basketball team I don't care that they look terrible, and I don't care that they look like they're in middle school. A college team and held them to fourteen. And you think any of us are scoring anything on Kansas, Come on, Nick, if they decide to play real defense against us, we are not

scoring anything. I don't think we're getting a shot off. I really don't. I think everything's blocked. I don't think we're getting a shot above their heads. Probably not, probably not. And even the guys that maybe we could, like Dwan Harris, the ball is gonna be out of our hands because he stole it from us. Yes, yes, Nick, I know that you can make some threes in your driveway. I've seen the videos. You're not scoring five points on this Kansas team. It will not happen.

We're not scoring five on any college team. Maybe that one, I guess, because that one was really the oak Kill team. Maybe that one. But yeah, I'd take okill, I'd try okill. We would get. We would They would be on the other end of what they just received if he played oak Hill. All right, let's talk about all the other games in college basketball, because there are plenty of losers to talk about. Big

twelve games. It was all other games. But now we're kind of getting to the point where we have enough big twelve games where we can sort them into that and other games. So let's start with conference action and landon a game you got right. So I figure, I should you know, you're already a bunch down and pick them, But I guess I'll let you have your time in the sun with this one, because well, you got it right. I'm not sure you thought it'd be like this, No, I

did not. Michigan State obliterates number six Baylor eighty eight sixty four, ending the bears undefeated start to the season at nine to zero. It was forty five to seventeen at the break. Tyson Walker scored twenty five, helped the Spartan shoot sixty three percent from the floor while Baylor turned it over twenty one times. Just a game that was never ever close. That's why, Yeah, I thought Michigan State. I did pick them to win. That felt

like an upset pick that I liked. I did not anticipate a twenty four point drubbing for Michigan State. Not a great look for Baylor, considering that their schedule was better than Houston's but it wasn't exactly loaded. Like they beat Auburn, who's been pretty good this year, had a nice comeback there, and they beat Florida. But other than that, a whole lot of like Nicols and Northwestern States and Gardner Webbs on this schedule, including Division two John

Brown. But it's like, so they finally got their chance at a good opponent and they just completely got annihilated, as you said. Next up for the Bears, they get another blue blood opponent. They will play Duke at Madison Square Garden here on Wednesday night. I think that that's a really important game for them because if they drop that one and they are zero and two in the most difficult two games, you know, is that the team that

you're predicting to beat the jayhawkson and their run as Conference King. I definitely don't think so Bears have great defense. Their defense kind of looks like it normally his just not great. Okay, Well that was Baylor. Now number

four Houston. They survive Wade Taylor the fourth who scored thirty two in this game, and Texas A and M seventy to sixty six to win their toughest matchup of the season thus far up to with four seconds left, eighty eight percent free throw shooter Henry Coleman missed both to sink the Aggies would have taken its overtime. Houston is eleven to zero, but they did lose six man Terrence geez are our sinuax something like that are sinuants for Arsenal. Okay,

there you go for the season too. A torn achilles a big loss for the Cougars. But still they're good. They have a good defense. They're number one and ken palm and number one on the net. But it's like I seen this, seen this before. Let's get back to me. After six big twelve games K State, they lost it home to nebraskt Ball sixty six. They lost and didn't even have the dignated to hit fifty. They scored twelve points in the second half, holy sixteen of sixty from the floor.

Overall, that's twenty seven percent, and that is also bad. The Wildcats are eight and three. That's three and oh in overtime though, so a little bit of luck for sure mixed in the bit. As your opinion changed on k State at all, Ryan, I think I said they'd be the seventh best team in the Big Twelve coming into the season, and teams like Oklahoma and BYU have been better to the point where would it be surprising

if they finished like ninth. No. I still think that they're gonna finish better than teams in that tier because I think they have a better home field advantage. But it didn't do anything for them against the fighting Hoybergs. Yeah, just a nightmare showing. And Jerome Tang. So I like Jerome Tang. He's a good coach and a good man. He was great last year,

but this year hmm. I'm not calling him a one hit wonder or anything, but they've been a disaster this year between all the Nakwon Tomlin stuff and how nobody at the university administration level was on the same page to being eight and three. They've had all this stuff all week about what rap songs should they listen to in the pregame locker room. That was a big thing, and then they get embarrassed by Nebraska at home. Like feels like a

sort of thing that's just not going too well behind the scenes. Maybe maybe it is. Maybe it's just a loss, and sometimes losses happen. But Yike's case State. Usually teams that are in a really good spot don't lose by sixteen to nebrasketball. That's really bad. Yeah, that's that is a pretty bad look. I don't know. This team's also I think decently less talented than last year as well, which isn't helping. That's true, Yeah, I mean they lost two NBA players. The only undefeated teams left in

this conference Oklahoma and Houston. Both teams are eleven and zer. The Sooners are a big surprise. We'll find out how good they are this week when they take on the Tar Heels in Charlotte. But overall, the two undefeated teams left in this conference. So you've posted a hypothetical here, but I do think this is fair. If given the choice between losing his entire family or scheduling a moderately difficult non con schedule, how quickly do you think tj

Osselberger would put his wife and kids on a bus. That was pretty funny that it was funny when I typed it. It was funny to hear it out loud. Iowa State beat Prairie View A and M and Florida A and M. Really getting their quotas worth of the military schools by a combined eighty nine points. At this point, it's what we always say, just scrimmage yourself at this point. Seriously, Yeah, that doesn't even make any sense

at all. And then lastly, in the Big Twelve, West Virginia lost their sixth game to you Mass, Cincinnati lost to Dayton, TCU rolled Arizona State, and Texas some of nineteen. Texas rolled LSU while getting Dylan Mitchell back. The Longhorns look pretty dangerous. So we're about a month and a half into this season, and if I asked you who are your prediction what is your prediction of the top five Big twelve teams in order? What would you say? Uh, Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Texas, TCU.

Yep, I think that's my exact order that I think that's exactly it. I still trust Baylor more than Houston. I also could see Houston finishing like seventh, like I really could. I think this is going to open their eyes in this conference. And by the way, if they do, when

I say seventh, I don't mean they're gonna win like six games. I mean like they're going to go eleven and seven and there's going to be four teams that tie and beat them in this in the tie breakers or whatever, because I have a feeling that anywhere between like three and ten in this conference could just be an absolute log jam. We think that West Virginia finishes last because I still think a team like Central Florida could could finish last with how

West Virginia is more used to this. Yeah, I honestly still think UCF might be the pick for last because I think they might, yeah, just get run over in a big twelve state, But West Virginia and Oklahoma State

are gonna give them everything they're worth for that last place. I think let's talk about other games and a game that was on Peacock which is complete and total booty cheeks, but the game wasn't all set To take over the number one ranking once again is currently number three per Due, who put on an offensive clinic in their ninety two to eighty four win over top ranked Arizona.

The boiler Makers got twenty seven points from Fletcher Lawyer and another twenty six from Braden Smith, dueling white Guy of the Game candidates, with the two combining to make nine threes. Is Perdue the best team in the country. I don't know, maybe they should be number one with their resume. They gotta win over Marquette, they gotta win over Tennessee, they gotta win over against Zaga, they gotta win over Arizona. Like that's a pretty tarrent good set

of pre Christmas wins, it is. I think, yeah, the resume is very good minus the Northwestern loss. I mean, they're really good and they have arguably the best player in the country. I think I posted on Twitter that their inevitable tournament loss this year is going to be something that their poor fans just do not deserve because we know it's gonna happen. They have good fans that have never seen them go to the final four like they are. They have they made a final four. I know, they've never won

a championship. They have reached two final fours. Their final four teams were in let's see here, nineteen sixty nine and nineteen eighty. They have made a final four in forty three years. I mean, geez, I hope they can get there, but like they keep losing its teams that are seated way too low. Good luck. They're great, they look real sexy,

but this isn't the first time they've looked real sexy in December. Speaking of a team, we're just waiting to inflict pain upon us rat Creighton bounce back from their weird loss to UNLV by taking down Alabama eighty five to eighty two. Ryan Kulkbrenner leading the way there. The Tide have lost by one basketing back to back weekends to produce and Creighton. Next they play Arizona. Take notes John Shier and tj Ottslberger scheduled teams that are good. Daat's getting on

it. He is. That's awesome, and they're gonna have like five non conference losses. But all they gotta do is finish like fourth in the SEC, which I don't know how you can say they're not going to be in contention for it considering how well they've played some of these elite teams. Memphis's home court advantage was good enough to take down number thirteen Clemson. It's the

tigers first loss of the year. Seventy nine seventy seven. Feels like every year Clemson wins a lot of games early and then totally disappears by January. Who is your bet to win the ACC right now? That's a great question, and I probably still to say North Carolina. No, Duke's gonna finish better than at least they should. Duke is a better roster than North Carolina. Like I, it's not Clemson, it's not Virginia, it's duper UNC, it's duker UNC. Yeah. Even though those teams are not blowing anybody

away right now, they are still the ones that you're betting on. Yes, In the CBS Sports Invitational, Ohio State took down UCLA in an ugly game, and then fourteen Kentucky outlasted Noumer nine North Carolina and entertaining eighty seven to eighty three performance. John cal Perry brought both Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham off the bench for some reason. Also, the Wildcats now have seven foot stud fresh Aaron Bradshaw going, so theoretically I might be getting a little more

dangerous. They're the SEC favorite, right Oh they have to be. Yeah, they're They're great until they inevitably do something stupid around March twentieth or something like that. Number twenty team named Saint Peter's or something. Yeah, they been there, done that. Number twenty two Virginia beat Northeastern fifty six to fifty four. Somebody throw Tony Bennett in a closet and leave him there. That is disgusting. Did you see the DePaul score yesterday? Goodness gracious,

oh maybe it was really really bad. So Northwestern, who is ranked, went into Chicago and beat DePaul fifty six to forty six. Man, people paid money for that. People paid money to sit in. The NBA suckson is unwatchable. That's a first quarter score in some NBA games, a really high scoring NBA game. The Pacers have hit like one hundred and forty five points like ten times this season already. Yep. Even the Detroit Pistons can

score more than what forty whatever points that. Yeah, they've lost like twenty three straight games or something. Yep. Yeah, they've gone from two to one to two and twenty four. I think they should not be that bad. But that's a different podcast. Correct Missouri in front of proximately ten fans up here in case at the t Moble Center, we already played the song, so that's fun. A Louisville update. After Ryan declared them no longer the worst team, they said, old my beer. They lost to one

and seven to Paul and then Arkansas State at home by double digits. They're five and six. That is too fair, a game and a half better than Cal who's three and seven and is only one once since November thirteenth. But I don't know how it's possible for Power Power Conference seems to be this bad. They are so bad. So I don't know if you were on if you listen to the last show where we talked about who is Gonzaga's biggest competition in the WCC, and we're like, okay, let's just go buy

record by record, it's Santa Clara. Santa Clara has the second best record in the WCC. Let's see who they lost you, Oh my gosh, they were one of the team's cow beat. Yeah, that's where we're at with the WCC. YEP, only four teams here, but they are pretty high ranked ones ranked team to loose. It's last show, beginning at the top. Number one Arizona took an el the Purdue. Number six Baylor got their doors blown off by Michigan State number nine North Carolina. I can't believe

Hubert Davis is on this list. Shocking right. They lost to Kentucky and the most irrelevant ranked team ever, Number thirteen clemes in they lost to Memphis and you lost to both of us and pick them. You're nine games behind Nick and seven games behind me and we're not even a Christmas yet. Yeah. Uh, Ryan, one time you told me you gave me any advice of never care and pick them. That's how you win is just by not caring. And this is me not caring. Pick a box I did?

It is usually where and you and I Well, I might be jinxing this, but you are in the semi finals and a fantasy football league and you're so geeked about your chance of winning it decent chance you might have to play me in order to get there, sir. How confident are you that this is gonna be your coolie year? Zero percent? You're gonna beat me by seventy next week? Well, I gotta get there first, and I gotta

hope not to get aj boer. By the way, it does not matter who I play next week in the COO League, Sammis, I will lose a laugher and it we'll be back to report on that sometime after Christmas. Merry Christmas, Land and take an l on Christmas Eve, ask rock Chalk Blog. Well, fans were very excited about the return of land in here. Wow. The happy to see you too. Yeah, the people are geeked, sir. That's why you can never retire from this illustrious paying position.

Lucky for you are very benefits package included a nice amount of paid time off that I'm sure you enjoyed while you were sick over the last week. Yeah, it was really nice to see the same same amount on the check come in. That's what we do. We make sure that whenever you take a day off due to sickness here at Inside the Paint, you don't lose a cent against what you would normally make had you shown up and done it through that, through your respiratory discomfort. That is what we stand for here

at Inside the Paint Headquarters. You also really stand for when I do show up that I don't make a cent more than I would when I'm off. Hey, you know what, I think? A balanced world is an ideal world. So let's not question the way that the CEO of ITPS Headquarters does things here, sir. The business is bigger than the individual. Do you want to be replaced? Uh? Don't answer, right of your sentences.

Maybe I don't know who i'd replace you with, But I have a couple of names in mind, and well, no, I think I'm just gonna not alienate you at cam Lipple. In a contest of utter confusion, who would win Mike Woodson anytime? Joe Biden, Kenny Payne trying to coach, or Bill trying to figure out why Mitch Lightfoot can't guard the mobiley twins like he should be able to write, He just should be able to guard two lottery picks right, like, I don't get why that's not working. Let's

try it again. Oh we're down by twenty eight, Let's try it again. Oh we're down by thirty five. Let's try again. That was the icing on the cake of that just unbelievable loss, the worst loss by point margins I've ever watched Kansas lose, and arguably the least painful, because good

riddance to that team there was. There was a moment in that game that I remember Christian Brown hitting a three, who was minus thirty six that night, by the way, I remember, I remember Christian Brown making a three that cut the deficit to like nineteen right out of the second half, and I was doing mathematic equations in my head, like, okay, if they can have down at fifteen by this point and then twelve by this point,

and just like I couldn't believe I was spending time doing that. I was unemployed during COVID at that point and needed something to fill my time with. I guess, so I spent it with that horrible basketball team. Yeah, and look at the great reward he got. Yeah, twenty whole wins and a very ugly loss to USC. I think your answer at Joe Biden is the most confused of those people. Yeah, but Kenny Payne is the worst at his job of those four. Also true and without getting bashing, Yeah,

exactly, it's not Bill Mike Woodston's Okay. So I guess your options are the current standing president and the current coach of Louisville, And the answer is easily Kenny Payne. He's terrible, and Kenny Payne, to be fair, had like a way easier turnaround job than Biden. Eh. Yeah, I was gonna say Kenny Payne had a much easier as a much easier job. Like he's all he has to do is call some basketball plays, and he's bad at it. He's really, really bad at that at Evan Phillips

forty five, Landon, has your herpes healed yet? My alleged herpes is like ninety seven percent healed? Hey, just been time for Christmas? You don't want to pass along herpes to your family. That's gonna lead to some real awkward conversations. Yeah, that would, wouldn't it. Hey, how'd you get herpies? Oh? Landon? He lives in my house? Wait? Isn't he your kid? Yeah, let's not ask questions. Don't want to give anybody who already throws enough eggs at the homeschool or bus any more

AMMO to work with. So yeah, just go ahead and don't shake hands this holiday season, sir at cope fraud? Is it time to officially cut Timberlake from the rotation for good? Okay? Sir? One word answer, I know what's coming? Maybe no, Okay, I thought for sure there's gonna be a no. And is there a better coach in college basketball history at winning games? They have no business winning than Bill self? No,

it's there there. I've never seen one. Like every single game that's tied with three minutes left, not everyone, but like they win like eighty five percent of those road home tournament. Yeah, doesn't doesn't make any sense how that's the case. But when they're tied with five minutes left, they had that, they usually still win. It's baffling. He's he's so good. I'm not ready to bail on timber Lake. By the way, to answer the first part of the question, I'd like to see a couple more attempts

to get him going. I mean, the numbers at talsand were real. This isn't a guy who did this in high school. He did this individion one as player he really was. I don't think he's I don't think he has it to Kansas maybe, and I would love to be wrong, because I think that elevates the team immensely if he's good. I just I've seen nothing to indicate that. I can't imagine there being a better player on that team than Nick Timberlake seventeen points night, like he was a good player.

It's very frustrating that it hasn't happened here. I'm at show Me Hawk. You'll never guess who Ken Palm now has as their number one team after a big win over unranked Texas A and m oh I think I know. I bet it's those Houston Cougars who beat Rice a couple weeks ago and shot like a rocket and the net. Man, I'm shocked they drop BYU. Yeah, yeah, exactly because you know BYU has those forty point wins over crap mccrap pants University and then they play legitimate schools and get crushed. But you

know the net will still and the freaking Chris Reynolds uses the net. They think the nets a good tool out there at NCAA headquarters. I think then that is actually a good tool. It just takes a lot of data points to get right, like late season net is different than early season net. Nope, that's not allowed, sir. That makes you a communist that you are not allowed to say that. Wayne kerr our Man at dick Underscore Taser says you. Ninety five percent of KU fans watch the game teetering on the

ledge of walls of wells overlook. I was traveling over season, missed the game. Going back through Twitter was insane, fire Bill Bench, Harris Dickinson, soft, kJ can't shoot, et cetera. My question, are our fans idiots blind on bath salts or just arseholes? Yeah? I mean all of it can I say that, By the way, do I have to beat that? I know I can't say that, but fine, if you, if you, if you make it arses that make it better or worse, it's I think it's maybe a little better. Okay, then we'll just

leave it at that. On Bath Salts is my favorite. I think that's really you can tell that that Wayne. There's a reason Wayne Kerr and Inside the Paint get along pretty well. Make your jokes. There's a reason that those two accounts kind of go hand in hand because, yes, completely correct, Dick Underscore Taser, you might be the land and a Nick replacement when they finally get enough of this show, sew down to get Wayne good old Wayne Kerr. We don't know what Wayne Kerr sounds like like he could we

don't know. We don't know anything about him. We don't even know his actual name because his username is Dick Taser. Well, based on Dick Taser and Wayne Kerr, it might sound a lot like a plunger in a Mayo jar, but that's well, yes, you're completely correct. It's it's wild. I have a feeling that that Wayne will enjoy the rant earlier in the show at Elliott rus and h this team's just going to win because their stars are better than everyone else's. Right, that's the sense I'm getting because of

the state of the bench. Yes, that's also how college basketball works more often than not for the Blue Boes, I feel like, right, pretty much, pretty much like Kansas has four players that are better than the top four players on most teams cumulatively, and therefore they will win a lot of games. Like, there are going to be games that you don't get enough from that group and you're like, man, a better bench, and they probably win, But there's gonna be way fewer of those, and there's going

to be the big four. We're good and therefore we won games, right usually yeah, or even games where it seems like, oh, if the bench would have played better, they could have won it. Oftentimes is also if our starters had just done their job, they would have won. Yep. And that would have been the case against Indiana too. We wouldn't be sitting here had they lost that game, had had whatever Galloway almost had Joey Galloway he played football once and Matt Galloway is a writer for KU Sports.

Whatever the hell Galloway's name was Trey Trey Galloway. Had he made those shots, we wouldn't be sitting here saying, gosh, the bench was disappointing. We would have instead been saying, to Wan, did to shoot till it was too late? Hunter? Its soft as dog poop after eating chocolate. That would have been what we let off with. It's always going to be

about those Big four. Yeah, agreed. Another one from Elliott the only question, Oh that Okay says that's the only question I have because I have too many and would have to phone in otherwise, Hey, you never have to phone it. We never phone in this podcast. That sort of stuff isn't tolerated. Max's effort or bust that inside the paint. Sure at ol Art Casey with our final question here, and I'm gonna go ahead and answer

it before I ask it. Here's the answer, O God, all right, now, I'll read the question who would win five Nick Timberlakes or five Ku version ty on Grant Foster's Oh oh it's Timberlake. I think the answer is anyone who bets the under because that game is booty. Also, Olhart Casey wrote in the tweet five justin Timberlakes, which may make this question a little bit more interesting. I think Tyon Grant Foster would beat Justin Timberlake in

a basketball game, but that would at least make it. I would it'd be more interesting than watching a brick contest between TGF and who's good now, by the way, only took a few years and Nick Kimberlake, who's definitely not good. Tyon Grant Foster for the the Grand Canyon. What are they, sir? What's their mascot? They're the Oh, I think it's the antelopes. They're just the lobes. But yes, I'll give it to you. It's like rus and kangaroos. Tyan Grant Foster is averaging twenty one points

per game in ten games this year. I know he's good. That's very very good. Yeah, he's been very good this year. He's also been in college for what feels like forever, because that COVID year somehow was only three years three years ago, and it feels like a lifetime ago. If you ever have asked ARCB questions, use the x hashtag or apply to the tweet, or just send it to me because I save them. Anytime you want to criticize anybody, else's attendance on this show or whatnot. You know

where to find us. Just kidding. These co hosts are committed and dedicated and passionate, just like Bill is. The playing IVY League schools before Christmas, because every year we get this. Yale at number two Kansas, Merry Christmas, Sir, Friday, December twenty second, your last game before the big day at seven o'clock PM on ESPN PLUSO. Great the Yale Bulldogs of the IVY League. They are seven and five. They played one ranked team

and it was Gonzaga and they lost that game by fifteen. They also beat a team called Colby Sawyer and they won that game ninety five to thirty six. That tells you anything about the quality of Colby Sawyer. Uh, their best win is Loel and Arimount on the road. How does Gonzaga win in WCC so much? Says Ryan. They play teams like one percent better than Colby Sawyer for the this part, Yeah, Yale would be the second best

WCC team by Miles this year. Man, most years, if we're being honest, I would say Santa Clair is better, but as we covered, they lost to Cal so I really can't say that at all. Yeah, no, you can't. Their leading scorer Yale's is is wing Bez and Peg, who averages fourteen points and five rebounds per game. He is not a three point threat twenty six percent. White Guy of the weld say, not a three point threat, but twenty six percent basically means you're going to for

four. Well, that won't matter in this game, too, sir, because these individuals are gonna take all the threes. Not just white Guy of the Game candidates, but White Guy of the Millennium candidates. John Pollokatas and August Mahoney are both shooting north of forty percent on threes, which means, oh my gosh, a guy, a white guy named August, and his grade point average is probably four point eight. He does go to Yale to be fair. The leading big, oh go ahead, I'm sorry. Oh

are you choking talk over each other on this podcast? Are you choking like a dog like Indiana did? Uh? Yeah, that's just my herpes flaring. I was just gonna say, Kansas has never been burned by a guy named August, so that's a new one. That would be new. The leading big is seven foot center Danny Wolf, whoever is thirteen and nine. He shoots fifty from the floor. He's also twelve of twenty five shooting for

threes this year. That would also make a lot of sense for Danny Wolf to just kind of go ham, I don't think Danny Wolf is a white guy. I think Yeah, if I look up Danny Wolf on Google, it brings up an entertainer. Uh, so I need to look up Danny Wolf Yale and let's let's take a look. He is no, Oh my gosh, he's very white. He is. I was very incorrect. Here

is Danny there? He is yeap, so he's gonna make some Uh, Yale's gonna make August Mahoney looks like the personification of the University of Yale. Yeah, if you go to chat GPT and you say, show me what the average Yale student looks like, August Mahoney's portrait comes up and it's it's Yeah, there's gonna be some threes made at this in this game. Yale itself is kind of a hard team to scout. They play at a decent pace, They're pretty okay at everything. They've been a pretty good offensive team

this year. Their big strengths are free throw shooting, though it's in limited attempts and three point defense. They've also been a good three point shooting team because they have August and Danny Wolf out there. They're pretty middle of the

pack from a national perspective in most categories. They also have five losses, so I mean, I couldn't find anything that they were just jumps off the page, good or bad at. But they are seven and five against a pretty lacking schedule, and again they're Nerds, so screw them, right, Yeah, that is my general thought process on nerds for sure. Get out of there, Kansas. They're three to zero all time against the Nerds of Yale and they haven't played since two thousand and seven. I assume we are

all over the Hawks here. I don't know if August Mahoney doesn't make seventeen threes, which is possible, and that's another thing that's gonna happen. August Mahoney is going to do a dude perfect trick shot where he shoots it from the student section and it splashes through the net, and somebody on Twitter is gonna yell at me for saying, well, yeah, they didn't guard him, of course he made it. Do you even watch. Yeah, that would happen. That is exactly how that would go. That's and don't even

get me started. Like there were a couple of times where Ku left Indiana shooters open because they're not good they read the scouting report. But I think it was I think it was in Baco who was like, oh, let me just euro step and launch this three above two guys with twenty four seconds left on the shot clock and splash. And then the responses were where they didn't guard him. You're jo like, oh my gosh. And that's what's really the most funny part about it. Yeah, and neither's Yale, but

Kansas will be Yale. I'll say something like seventy this is get this. The game before Christmas is always sleepy as hell. This is gonna be like sixty eight to fifty four in the most sleepy year in recent memory for Kansas. Is the reverse going to be possible? That's true? It could this be that. Watch this be the game they drop one hundred. I don't think it's gonna happen. I actually kind of agree. I think Kansas I'm catching on to what they're doing this year. Finally, Kansas wins like seventy

seven to sixty seven. I may take an under on seventy seven. Honestly, like they haven't. They haven't scored that much consistently recently, and this is going to be such a snooze, Like, remember what was it Harvard last year? What was the score of the Harvard game on this exact date? Yeah? Recently at least they had a game against Harvard that was really really boring. Did I just say sixty eight to fifty four or something close,

because that is what that exact score was. Oh, yeah, there it is, So it is. That's about the sort of spiel for it. I remember Grady Dick making a bunch of threes in a row in that game, and that was just kind of it. That happened a lot last year. Looking at the box score of that game, and Bobby Pettiford was your leader with four assists for Kansas. Wow, no, wonder that team wasn't that good. I mean, they were fine until their coach's heart gave

out. That's fair. They would have probably they probably wouldn't have beat Yukon. They were fine until their coaches heart gave out, and then they lost to Texas and got stuck in that region. They got Chris Reynolds. That entire season was going great until the last week. Yeah, that is true, and then Eric Musselman's shirt was off all of a sudden. Who knew what happened. He got kicked out the other day. I don't remember who they were playing, but he got Yeah, he got ejected for yelling at

the officials. And this was one of the many shows that you missed. And yeah, we were talking about Nick's at his shirt actually stayed on for a change. Yes, I think we all like Kansas to win, but this is this is not going to be a super aesthetically pleasing game to watch, but they will not lose if it was. If if the game is a tie and everybody files out and they need a determined winner so they go to spelling bee questions, then they're in deep trouble. That ain't happening.

If we have to start doing chemistry on the court or something like, I'm not, by any stretch insulting Hunter Dickinson's intelligence, But if Hunter Dickinson has to go head to head with August Mahoney and a trigonometry contest to determine the winner, I think Kansas might be in trouble. Yeah, if it comes down to that in the like seventh overtime and those are the new rules. Yeah, Kansas is gonna lose, but before that, I think they'll win.

I guess it would be law questions before before trig. Yeah, you know what, I think I'd rather take my chance with bar exam questions than trig. Yeah. Its like a like halfway guess potentially correct answer. Yeah, you could. You have a better chance of bsing your way to something than you do have guessing a number. Right, yuck. All right. Other games, we're only gonna pick a few. We're gonna pick four because everybody's kind of being sleepy around this time of year. There are a few

good games. These rankings will all show likely by the time you listen to the show. We're recording this late on Sunday night, about twelve hours before the rankings come out. Number six Baylor versus Number twenty one Duke in New York City. I am real tempted here. That is kind of Duke's home away from home. But I'm not gonna go against the Bears winning back to back games. I do think they get it done. I don't really trust either of these teams that much right now, which is tough to pick I'm

gonna take. I'm gonna take the Bears as well. Number nine North Carolina against number eleven Oklahoma and Charlotte. I will go with you and see big here. I think Oklahoma is a fraud waiting to get exposed. I do think since this is in Charlotte, I will take the tar Heels. If it was in Tulsa, would you switch? I'd be more tempted to. I believe. I don't think Oklahoma is actually that good, but I think they're solid enough to win some games like this. I think North Carolina does

get it though. Number sixteen Illinois against we are Miszoo in Saint Louis, I really want to. I was gonna pick Missouri and then they lost the seat in the hall, and Illinois is good. Terrence Shannon's a first team All American right now. I think the fighting a line I take down Missouri. Same and the number one Arizona versus number fifteen Florida Atlantic entertaining game. Here are we all on the Wildcats to bounce back high scoring game the Arizona

wins. Yes, I think I agree, but that will be the best game of this sleet. All right? So next show? What next Saturday Night? Maybe like we do in the Saturday night right before Christmas getting it out? Uh, maybe we might be earlier in the week. I don't know, probably won before Christmas, right I would bet so? Yeah? And if the game, the Harvard game is Friday night or the Yale games Friday, then I don't know what other options we've got, but we'll figure

it out. Well, we'll put our heads together and put our herpes aside and find the best time to give you a show. How about that? This is inside a Pain on Rock Chuck Plug and Rian Landrath. Oh man, I didn't come up with the name. I'm not Nick. Yeah, there there you go. Nick and I have got I've spent a lot of one on one time together in the last last few days. Now, I'm a little scared to be spending one on one time with you because of what

you're contagious with. Oh well, you know, you could just try to get it the normal way. It's more fun in my hand and wiping it on your face. Not know where that was going. Where I heard the first couple of syllables, They're glad I'm glad it did not take the dark route there. You could have said that you were Kadarius Tony's hands whatever you were given cons I'm not sure if you want that dropping balls. Take that as by, behave yourself.