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ITP: Kevin McCullar's career day gets Kansas past Roos

Dec 08, 20231 hr 30 minSeason 11Ep. 11
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That's four straight wins by the Jayhawks, who took down Kansas City at Allen Fieldhouse behind a big night from Kevin McCullar.

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Well, well, well, look look where we're at once again, same situation we were in last week, only this time I wonder if host number three is actually on a date, Nick, do you have any insight as to why we're a two person show today again? I believe the first date went well with the girl, so I think he's going on a second this week. No, actually this was not the first date. This is actually probably the million date, and it was actually not a date at all.

Landon is just hanging out with his sister, so that's he does have a female in his life, actually two females in his life, his mother and his sister. No romantic interest though, but at least he has at least I guess some women to go home too. I want to start to a Kansas basketball podcast, but hey, you know what, they beat the ruse, So I'm really not sure what you expected us to talk about other than slandering Landon, who is I believe not feeling well today? He's having his

He had a chance for his Michael Jordan flu show. But instead of down Daniels, Yeah, Instead instead of just taking the friggin' Nike well and and powering through for an hour, Yeah, he's uh, he's on IR so we'll see if he comes back here. Speaking of girlfriends, though Johnny Furfrey probably has like three of them that Land will probably borrow one because after that performance. Yeah, usually you don't see the headline Australian man destroy beats up

kangaroos. But yeah, quite quite literally happened the other night. I think that was all you too, Like I looked on Twitter or x whatever elon a little bit and saw I could not find any reverences like that. So I can't believe one that no one else put anything together, and two that that something creative came out of inside the paint. That's pretty wild. Nice nice work, sir. It's been a minute. The last time that happened was when I was asking questions about seven years ago. Those were good.

I would like to ask our CB at that point. But you know, at some point we need to bring back some of those iconic questions from the past with Nick. I'll see if I can go through your very old archives on Twitter and just reread some of your your old s rcbs. We'll have to do that. At some point. We'll have to have to rock and roll, probably for my last show here. In about six months or so. I don't like the sound of that. Let's hope that's not actually true.

This is inside the Paint on Rock Chalk Blog. The Jayhawk keep on winning and we keep on podcasting. I'm Ryan Landrath and I am Johnny Whipert. Yeah, because you know, instead of this, normally we'd have a voice in between Nick and I, but instead we have this, You suck ass. That's okay. You know he's he's he's paid. He's paid less than he should be paid for this job. So you're entitled to a couple

of unpaid days off because your days here are also unpaid limp paid. So yeah, you don't even you don't even share the two dollars in ad revenue we get. I guess that you don't even get that back you have to put up for the hosting of the podcast. So correct in the whole every year doing this show, aren't you? It's very close. So the spreekerr fee is seventy five bucks a year because I got it on a Black Friday deal. That that keeps your it keeps your price point for however long.

So I haven't seen a price upgrade in that in three years. Maybe the only thing that has not been subject to inflation is the speaker prices. Yeah, and with with AD revenue it is more than that. But then we also still pay the GoDaddy website or the GoDaddy company for the domain Rock chalkblog dot com that we still have. So yes, I do always end up being a little dis shocked. This show generates one hundred dollars in AD revenue. It's more than that. It's not zero, but it's the next closest

thing. I guess, just like what a win over UMKC does, right, Like, it's not nothing, but it's it's pretty close to being unexciting. So we're gonna talk about that. And then we wrapped up a podcast on Saturday where we talked about how nothing was going to happen. We recorded early in the day because we were so sure nothing interesting would happened that day in college basketball, and all that happened after that was every blue Blood besides

Kansas losing that afternoon, So plenty of other games to talk about. We have a lot of ascarcbs. And then obviously you guys know what is coming at the end of the show. We do we do the Border showdown coming back to Allen Field House. We'll see if Miszoo can keep it closer than twenty seven this time, something they haven't done since the series returned. All right, let's talk about the other basketball program that takes place in the show

me state and how they actually did. Okay, all things considered, I don't really want to call them Kansas City, just because I hate how they don't go by UMKC anymore, but that is their name. So number two Kansas eighty eight, Kansas City sixty nine. We've talked about the Ruse a handful of times on this show, and I believe this is the closest that Kansas has played them. The head to head college basketball reference page doesn't work

like it used to, so I can't fact check that. But boy, just going based off memory, it seems like every time the Rus come to it's at least the thirty point game, and this was a eight point game with four minutes left before Kansas closed strong. There really isn't much of a game story. I guess if you want to do a game story, you can, but overall kind of underwhelming, kind of Kansas playing down a competition

once again, that's kind of what we saw. Yeah, it wasn't the biggest point margin we've ever seen, but the Jayhawks put forth a quality offensive game, pulled away from the rus late to win by eighteen points. Two teams traded ten to zero runs down the stretch, but the end result was a comfortable one for KU thanks to the services of Johnny Furfey, the kangaroo hunter from Australia himself winning that comfortably obviously with Johnny Furfey as his services,

but Kansas improves the eight and one on the season. Any immediate takeaways. You just pointed out that this was the closest game against the Ruse KU's played in a few years. Definitely Kansas. Since those first two non conference by games seemed like against North Carolina Central and Manhattan, where they blew the doors off those teams, Kansas hasn't really gotten that huge blowout win. I know Shamanad was maybe twenty to thirty points for most of the game, but again

it's Shamana of D two school. Are you what are your takeaways from KU's non conference season so far this year? Are they just a little sleepy or it seemed like at this point they were sleeping this game? What are your overall takeaways from the non conference by games this year. Yeah, they definitely haven't been as impressive as I think a lot of people expected them to be.

Eastern Illinois and UMKC. As much as I would love to sit here and tell you that these teams are much worse than the Manhattan team, are much better than Manhattan and North Carolina Central and that's why the games were closer, that's really not the case. Really, all four of those by games are pretty close in terms of skill level, and Kansas should have definitely won both the Eastern Illinois and the Kansas City games by more than they did.

Bill self said they have to do better. This wasn't good enough. However, I do think that you can look at this game and think that we can't call it a trap game, right because they were a thirty point favorite. But it is fair, I think, to say that this was a tough spot for Kansas because they're coming off that emotional barn burner against Yukon.

You're not gonna match that kind of effort, and you're obviously looking ahead to Missouri, your biggest rival, in a game that is very captivating for the fans and the players here So it's like in the NFL whenever you have a team playing a really tough division game one week, and then two weeks after that they play another very high caliber opponent, and in between there you have

the lowly like Look at the Chiefs this year as a perfect example. So the Chiefs beat the Chargers at home in a pretty highly built game in the AFC West, and then they had a road game at the lowly Broncos, who they always squashed, sandwiched between the Miami game in Germany. Right, you have two marquee games and then just the game you're expected to roll right

in between. And we saw what happened when the Chiefs went out to Denver and they slept, walk through the whole thing and they lost to an inferior team. Obviously the Jayhawks did not lose against the Ruse, but same thing. It's very hard for athletes, especially that are eighteen to twenty two years old. They're not robots. This isn't video games where you just get up and you're the same every night. It's hard to get that sort of intensity

every single game. And I think that's what you saw here. This seemed to be an easy game to overlook. The Jayhawks jumped to a twenty point lead early in the first half, about ten minutes in similar to how they were up seventeen against Eastern Illinois in the first half, and then just kind of coasted. They looked like a board team. And I think you're gonna

see that a little bit from Kansas this year. I think that they already are ready to play in the NCAA tournament and they're just kinda kind of coast against these teams. They definitely play up or down to their competition level. I assume, you know, we did the show last week where we talked about how, oh the Eastern Illinois game was troubling for these reasons. I assume we're not doing that again, right. They still won by eighteen.

By the way, it's not like they needed a last second escape here. They it was fine. It doesn't matter. They could have won this by forty or eighteen, and it's not going to play an impact on how far this team ultimately goes. Yeah, and they looked really good at the beginning of the game. You know, I think Lannon said that they thought he

thought it was gonna be a meat necklace game. Just blew the doors open to start this game and then kind of, like we've seen a couple times this season, they just really fall asleep and hit the brakes super fast and have these big scoring droughts. Happened against the Eastern Illinois, happened against Shamanad briefly, and Marquette obviously, where Marquette was able to build that huge lead. How I guess will kind of break this down more to go through their

individual player stats. But how how is a coach do you really get these guys to start playing for a full forty minutes? I know the rotations have been interesting. Bill self's been kind of trying new things to get fresh bodies in there. How do you get, like, how do you get this team to play dominant basketball for forty straight minutes? Because we've certainly seen it many times. How the ceiling of this team is fantastic when everyone's clicking,

but just when they hit these lulls, how do you prevent that? See? I don't really know, because, like you know, I just said, these kids are college kids, Like they're just not built to go out there and be stone cold killer every night. And even if they are the other team's trying to win too, like the other team is trying to put the ball in the basket. And I thought that Kansas City did a pretty

good job at that. But like, look, look at the team that won the national championship, a team that achieved what this one would love to do. They beat North Texas by twelve, They beat Steven F. Austin by eight, They beat remember the George Mason game on snowy New Year's Day

was by like eight points until Mitch Lightfoot saved him at the end. So there's plenty of history that the best teams or the worst teams, they're not gonna win every non con game by forty just because their points spread says they should, right, Yeah, Like it's just not going to happen every single time. And in this particular game, they jumped to a twenty point lead. I think it was thirty was it thirty one to eleven or something like.

It was just it was over really really quick. And then after that, yeah, they just kind of coasted. They knew they were going to

win. Bill self didn't play the starters for all the minutes, and you know, yeah, at that point, whenever you're trying to get Nick Timberlake going and you give him seventeen minutes, and you try to get Johnny Furfy going, which was more successful than Timberlake, and he gets fourteen minutes like Hunter Dickinson got ten minutes off in this game, they probably could have won by more than they did. But ultimately, I'd rather have those guys rest

than win by eighteen. Then I would rather see them exert, you know, maximum energy and win by what What would that have amounted to if Hunter Dickinson and Kevin mccullorr never sat down without a resulted in them winning by twenty two instead of eighteen, Like that just doesn't seem worth it. I don't know. But Kevin McCuller was very good. He feels like the guy that we should be leading off in the notes here. He Dickinson every night. It's one of them. So let's go ahead and talk about a guy who

had the best night of his Jayhawk career. Yeah. Absolutely, Kevin McCuller scored most points he's ever had in a KU uniform. Hard to believe a twenty fives on his career high, but that is. It seems like he's got a lot of games to break that again. At least maybe once or twice too later this season, he's been that good. Like I said, twenty five points in this game on nine for thirteen from the floor, seven for eleven on twos, two for two from downtown, plus five for five

at the line. Had fourteen points in the first ten minutes of the game, added six rebounds, five assists, two steals, a block in thirty four minutes. Really doing it all excellent all around. I mean, we've talked about this on previous shows too. I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but talk about this guy's you know, coming into Kansas, obviously a great player at Texas Tech. Just how Bill self really just develops these guys in the system. Just seeing the improvement that he made when he stepped

foot in Lawrence to now is fantastic. I think him coming back for this Super Senior season is going to work leaps and bounds for his NBA prospects hopes. I think KU fans are just you know, obviously, where would this team be without him at this point. You look back in the offseason and he was the missing piece for sure, kind of like Jalen Wilson the year before and o Chaia Badge the year before that, so just really overall fantastic

season. Nothing to really complain about Kevin mcculor. He's doing his part offensively, defensively, everything in between, bringing energy, being a leader for this team at times. So great. Great to see him have this breakout seat. Yeah, we don't have the we don't have the full sample size yet because you know, obviously mccoler is only a quarter of the way through what's just a brilliant season this far. But O Chaia Baji from junior to senior

went from fourteen to nineteen points per game. Jalen Wilson from junior to senior went from where the numbers here went from eleven to twenty points per game, a huge jump. Kevin mccoller has gone from about twelve to nineteen, a similar sort of jump. You mentioned the twenty five being the most he's had in a Kansas uniform. It also is the most he's had in college.

I thought that he scored more than that. Attach His career high at any college game was for the Red Raiders against Grambling back way back in November of twenty twenty one. Wescored twenty four. So this is the first twenty five point game of his career and through through nine games this year, mccullar averaging nineteen points, seven rebounds, and five assists on fifty four percent shooting, and the three point percent mark has risen to thirty nine percent. Very very

good season for him, and eighty percent of the line. He is an All American At this point, he's been one of the ten best players in college basketball. Yes, the missing piece I think is perfect. We knew he was the bill selfiest player that Kansas could possibly have landed, and you look at what happens if they don't get him back. You're probably starting Johnny Furfey alongside al Marco Jackson right now, and this team wouldn't be nearly a

stout defensively or offensively. So a huge addition. I can't take away a ton from McCullers game because he lit up a team that he should light up. But yes, this season he's been an All America caliber player and very tough to imagine Kansas with at least one more loss and plenty less plenty less impressive eye test metrics. I think if he's not in fact a Jayhawk, the three point shooting is something that we didn't think would be one of the

strengths on this team. But actually it's been quite good. Ku eight for twenty shooting threes. That's forty percent. On the night Furfey made a couple. Nicolor and Dewan Harris both made a couple. Nick Timberlake missed several, but he did make one, so they spread it around a little bit. Through nine games, Kansas is shooting thirty nine percent from three. It doesn't feel like it, but that is top thirty nationally. Like, can you

explain like it doesn't feel like that at all? Right, absolutely not. It blew me away. You take out Timberlakes totals. Then the team shooting over forty percent. Can you imagine coming into the season saying everyone minus you know Timberlake is shooting over forty percent from three. Yeah, that's surd that's really good. And Dickenson is gonna progress a little bit. He's eleven for nineteen. He's at fifty eight percent. Dewan Harris small sample size is nine

for nineteen. That's forty shoot him, sure, yeap. Johnny Furfey actually has the second most three points made on the team this year. Yeah, and the second most attempts twelve for thirty, so he's at forty percent. That's great, McCuller shooting thirty nine, Jamari McDowell thirty one, and Timberlake,

as you said, just twenty seven percent for him. So yeah, they've been great, and they've been you know, that's a that's a different kind of thirty nine percent than it sounds like because they really don't take very many of them, but the ones that whenever they need to make them, we see him do it, like they need to make a couple against Tennessee and they did. They needed to make a few to beat Yukon, and they did. Three point shooting was the only reason this game wasn't really close

down the stretch. So very encouraging to see. And I think you're gonna see guys like Timberlake shoot it better. Furfey hopefully can stay around what he is. But but yeah, overall, the thing we had the most questions with was three point shooting. This team hasn't had those woes. We'll see

what happens when they start playing some better defenses in conference play. Yeah, but uh yeah, going past that, talk about guys who just have been fantastic, Kja Adams, you know, we talked about the story arc of his mother's tragedy passing and him coming and playing Yukon and making those two clutch free throws down the stretch, being clutched the entire game, and just having the absolute most mental four to tude I've seen of anyone before. Yeah,

facing adversity so well and marches that up. Has to go march down to Texas first to say put his mother to arrest, you know, at her funeral, and then comes right back up another fantastic performance. Kay's best piged in the game. Eighteen points, seven rebounds, six assists, four steals, thirty three minutes. Stat sheet stuffer like Kevin mccolor in this game, six for nine from the floor, shooting seventy one percent for this year,

really getting closer to those you do guys the bookie numbers. I know it's not like ninety percent, but really efficient. Second straight game where we saw Kayu's opponent put a lot of emphasis on slowan hunter, Nickinson and kJ punished and he's thrived in those situations. Just overall, do you have anything else to add? He's just been fantastic. Everything k you needed out of the four spot. Completely agree, This was always going to be a pivotal piece

for Kansas because we knew what Dickinson would do. We knew that he would post stat stuffing numbers, box score stuffing numbers. But there are going to be games like this where Hunter Dickinson has a fourteen points, which for him is twenty five thirty percent under his season average, and he's not gonna go out and wow you like we know he can and that's success. I mean you, U KC would have taken fourteen and twelve for Dickinson at the start

of the night. They would have been happy for that. So it was gonna come down to can kJ beat you? And I don't blame you. If you're an opponent, I'd rather have a guy not named Hunter beat me than just let Hunter do what he wants, because he's been He's proven throughout his entire career he will destroy you if you don't throw everything you've got at him, and even then that's not enough. But Kj's mid range has become so pivotal the little floaters in the lane, his ability to move around guys.

He's their best lob finisher, he's their best dunker. Using that ability to kuse advantage to the floor great too, so does Dickinson. Both their bigs can run the floor as well as anyone. He is exploiting a lot of matchups with those unathletic, more traditional college fours. They're not equipped to guard him, and he is. He is doing his job. Gonna be very curious to see how that holds up in the Big twelve where there's good

defenses everywhere. But yeah, kJ fantastic season. You read his stats and on the on the average this year twelve four and three per game while shooting north of seventy percent from the floor. Yeah, considering what also what else he's gone through mentally, that's an outstanding season. And he might be the best. He is the best fourth best player in America. I don't think there's anyone anywhere that is any team's fourth best player that's better than this guy.

He's been awesome. So underrated yep. And then talk about our other big Dickinson. He did have a double double with fourteen points to twelve rebounds. Wasn't inefficient night for him at his standards. The past two game have been for his standards, made just half his shots six or twelve from the floor. Has at least thirteen points and eight rebounds in every game this year,

So fortunately, twelve below average game for him. Really interesting that it seemed like you said double teams just over all the Casey defense kind of frustrated him. Is are we entering I don't. I'm not trying to be reactionary, but we're entering a little bit more of a Hunter Dickinson's gonna regress a little bit and maybe not put up the numbers he was earlier this season.

You just think this is just a blip in the stats this season. What are you thinking about Hunter Dickinson and getting him back to the productivity that he was at earlier this season? And do you need too with how Kj's playing, Oh, well, Kj's playing. Yeah, this is just a blip in the radar for Hunter. He had twenty five and thirteen a week ago. In the game before that, he had a twenty rebound game against Tennessee.

Like, yeah, I'm not concerned about Dickinson at all. I think you're seeing a team throw two sometimes three guys on him, and Bill self has countered that with the really good offensive scheming where he's using Hunter Dickinson out by the basket, or out away from the basket more and whether we've even seen Hunter venture out there dribble it back out to the top and that frees up so much space for kJ especially when there's a couple of guys that are

on him and that just opens up that lane. That's excellent. That's an excellent counter to other teams throwing a ton of pressure on him and Dickinson this year twenty points per game. I think, what's e fact, what's impressed me the most with Dickinson is the guy doesn't foul. He's averaging less than two fouls in thirty one minutes per game. Last year he was also under

two fouls per game despite playing thirty three minutes. He doesn't foul, so you can count on him playing thirty plus minutes to night if you need him out there. That is just wild to me that he is that big, he's that good of a shot blocker, he's that good around the basket, and he doesn't foul, he doesn't pick up offensive fouls. He just is so productive. And yeah, I predict that with Missouri coming to town, a team that does not have your typical back to the basket big I think

I think a big knight is in store for Hunter. A big a big knight is always in store. Whenever white people enter Allen Field House and they hoist some threes. Yes, you knew was coming. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Cameron Foss Who why not Cameron. It's been a while since Kansas been burned by a Cameron, and he's a good three point shooter, so it's not like this is, you know, Mitchell Solomon in Oklahoma State going off. But he did make five of his seven threes, and that kept

UMKC in the game. There were some step back bombs, right whenever UMKC was on the cusp of really getting rolled. Here back to back games where KU's just gotten grilled and late shot clock threes just nowhere. Yeah, and that's another thing too, like they hit all those shots and Kansas still beat him by eighteen. Like I don't, I don't really know how how this game goes if you, in case doesn't shoot. I mean, I thought I thought UMKC shot pretty well. They only made thirty percent of their threes,

but they shot forty percent from the floor. They kept the rebounding numbers within one, so they got back that they see. They did pretty well in the offensive glass. Considering the other team has a Hunter Dickinson, and they made eight threes. Foss had seven of them. Who hails from Scottsdale, Arizona. Feels like that's the birthplace of everybody that ever makes a bunch of threes against Kansas. Just just that's that's where it's at, all.

Right, let's talk about Dewan Harris. Every time this year we've talked about mccoller or Dickinson, it's been positive. Every time this year we've talked about Nick timber Lake, it's been negative. Dwan Harris has been a little bit more of a mixed bag, but it's been quietly a while since we've seen him really have a big game. Though I did think he was better in this particular game. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I guess eight point

seven rebounds is a good stat line for him. He was definitely better. And for as much as it seems like I piled on him, this guy needs to shoot the three more man. He's wide open on so many of these possessions, And I really think when you look at offensive threats for KU, he's one of those. You know, I love I love the fact he's unselfish or love that he's always looking for guys to set up and make cool assistance passes. But man, just it seems like he needs five seconds

wide open to even think about shooting the ball. Man, just imagine if he had more of a quick trigger. I just think that this team would just really benefit from him being more aggressive offensively. We've talked about this a lot as well, and it's I guess it is easier than it said than done. But man, don't you just wish that he would take two to three shot three pointers per game every night? Yeah? I mean that would

be that would be ideal. He's just so hesitant to shoot the ball, and I don't know, like, just let it fly, my man, Like he's Dewan Harris has made a living being left wide open. This is a guy that in his career has attempted one hundred and six nine threes and he's made more than forty percent of them. Like he's that's a that's a

good size sample size that shows you this guy can make them. And I know that a lot of those the one Harris may be the argument for all the Kansas fans that say, well, it's easy if they make wide open threes or whatever. But like, because most of Harris's are pretty open, but he makes them and they're not covering him. Whenever he drifts back and has the opportunity, I'd love to see him launch more. Uh the stat with the one Harris that you mentioned, thirty one percent on two's you read

through that right. I was watching the Patriots somehow survive and win a game on the road against the playoff team. You read the thirty one percent line? Yeap, Okay, I guess I didn't. I didn't read the stats. Sorry, Yeah, Like I like I like you, like you were going to say, or what I was gonna say. Just shooting thirty one percent from two this year definitely better from three point range. Yeah, that's weird. Like I I do not feel anyway uneasy about Harris. The defense

has been fine. People have tried to make it sound like it hasn't. It just hasn't been a lead. He seems a little bit off compared to what we've come to expect. But he's not gonna shoot thirty one percent that you know what happens in baseball whenever you have an established veteran that's a three hundred career hitter that goes out and hits two twenty in the month of April, Well, then you know, eventually the three eighty month is coming.

And I think that's gonna happen with the one Harris. I wouldn't surprise me at all if you saw five or six straight games that get accumulative seventy percent on twos, that rise that number up. And I think you could all start with Missouri, a team he's always played pretty well against. Okay, let's try to sort through the two guards here. We do this every show. Well, let's do it again. Marco Jackson five points, three assists, twenty three minutes, made two jumpers to start the second half, and

that was pretty much it. Two for five from the floor. Nick Timberlake played the second most minutes of these guys, was seventeen, but he was just one for five from the floor, all of those shots being a three pointer. Johnny Furfey was the best of all of them, scoring ten points in fourteen minutes on fourth seven shooting. You you mentioned Australian man Murders Kangaroos.

Yeah, he was great. And Jamary McDowell didn't do very much in five minutes we're just not seeing him get the action that the other guys are. I assume your take on this as Furfey was the best. Saw some people on Twitter talking about how Furfey deserves to start at this point. I

wouldn't go that far. He played well here against UMKC, like he didn't too much against Yukon, which was just a couple of days ago, So you know, I don't know, maybe, but I mean overall, this feels like kind of just a mixed bag, right, one what guy was good, one guy was okay, Like that's pretty typical. Yeah, I'm just I'm so shocked that Nick Timberlake just hasn't It's not like he's stopped shooting.

He shot five in this game, and he's just it's off, like shooters shoot, like this is something that is so natural, the guys who are just good at shooting threes and he was so good at thousand. It's

so weird. And I know a lot of it has to do with, you know, just a slump anxiety, you know, nervousness about you know, I don't know, trying to get it going, but it is, it's just it's super super tough because you just hope this guy just gets them to go in and sees the ball going the hoop and gets confidenced, then

gets back to his mojo back. But I haven't seen that yet. I'm confident that we will see a Nick Timberlake game where he does look good at some point this season, but like you said, the ten point watch certainly hasn't happened so far this season, and I don't know. I just hope that he gets the chance to still contribute on this team. I hope Bill Selft doesn't banish him to the bench as quickly as it seems like he has been. But I've definitely had an open, a more open leash in this

game. Al Marco Jackson really don't know how to break apart him. He's been off and on kind of just i'd say, okay, but yeah, I mean the guard set, the two guard spot has just been, uh, the question mark coming into this season. I don't want to beat a dead horse with this again, but I think it's probably last I'm going to say this, but you're really missing You're a guy who you had to kick

off the team earlier this season. So twenty five year old Nate timber Like that's played one hundred and he already won college games, should definitely not look this loss playing at Kansas. That's definitely true. This is a guy that attempted one hundred and ninety two and two hundred and twenty one three pointers in the last two seasons, so he's he's made a living launching the ball. At thousand and he did more than that too. It's not like he was

just a three point specialist. More than half the shots he made in his talsand career were twos, and then this year six for twenty two from three, sixty six percent of his shots have been threes. He's making just twenty seven percent of them. Yeah, this is a guy that shot really well at the free throw line of thousand two that we saw initiate some contacts like he wasn't just your Isaiah moss I only shoot threes kind of player, and

it just has been non existent at Kansas. I still think there's optimism. I still think he's experienced enough to think that he's going to have a moment where it clicks. But definitely, if you can't get it going against UMKC and as you said, the threes in this game, he did make one, but several of them weren't even close. Struggled mightily trying to get on

the floor against teams like Yukon in Tennessee. Who are the teams that you're gonna obviously have to be playing that caliber team's in Big twelve play, just not there, so we'll see. But Furfy at least looks like he's making strides. McDowell is a question mark, and Jackson has been, if unspectacular, still solid. He's a good defensive player and a good passer, so

that might be what they need. I guess. Parker Brown, the last player we talked about here five points three rebounds, he's just kind of eternally at the end of these notes, Hunter Dickinson plays enough where I don't think we're gonna spend very much time talking about Parker this year. Yep. And for as much as sorry, I just don't want to say this. For a couple podcasts ago, you know, we kind of took some shots at Parker Brown all together, he's really just been like nothing. I wouldn't say

he's been bad. It's just been like you haven't needed him, you really haven't need him that much. No, he's been fine. You obviously are going to things are gonna change really quickly if anything happens to Dickinson, or if Dickinson gets two foul in the first four minutes of a game, which is probably maybe not that extreme, but he's going to be in foul trouble

at some point. But this year, Parker Brown's given you a bucket a night, He's given you a couple boards, he's given you an assist in a block per game, and he's only playing nine minutes a night, like shooting seventy four percent from the floor on the limited amount of shots he gets

like, he's been a perfectly fine backup. And we'll see exactly how that goes whenever Kansas inevitably they go down to Waco and Dickinson gets in early foul trouble and you need seven or eight first half minutes from Parker Brown at the five to keep you in the game. We'll see how that goes. Until then, he's fine Kansas. Fifty four percent from the floor, forty percent from three, and seventy four percent of the line. All of those numbers

are fine. You'd like to see him better than plus one on the glass, but you know, it's basketball, happens sometimes. They didn't turn the ball over very much either, which was good to see after having some turnover problems in Maui. They took pretty good care of the ball against Connecticut, and then in the game against the Ruse. I believe there were on yeah, only seven turnovers for Kansas in this game. So so that's that's quite good overall. You'll take it. Put it in the win column. Kansas

is eight and one on the season. They have won three games in a row. Uh and uh and yeah, it's or they won four in a row. I guess because I always forget Tennessee happened there, they won four in a row. They get another game at Allen Field House. Bill self wins ninety six percent of his games at allen Field House, So you always feel pretty good about where you're at. Any other closing thoughts, Nope, all right, let's talk about everything else, all the other chaos that happened.

So in other games, where we'll start with Big Twelve games, I'd like to open up with news you don't give a rats ass about, but I learned it today. So the Big Twelve went seven and four in their battle with the Big East. Aren't you glad you knew that I joked that they should hang a Big twelve one the twenty twenty three battle with the Big East banner up there in the vacated spot where the twenty eighteen Final four banner

once dead. What a prestigious accompliment. Surely KSE State's gonna put together a commemorative DVD. Probably Case State fans probably still used DVD players for their win against Villanova undring Lenova, But hey, that was a wild game. Also, why are there only eleven Big twelve Big East Battle games? Are there only eleven teams in the Big East? How many teams are in the Big East. Let's take a look Big East basketball standings, because eleven is a

very obscure number. So there are, of course, it changed my Google service. There are eleven teams. There are Villanova, Georgetown, Seaton Hall, Saint John's, Marquette, Butler, Providence Creating in Yukon. It was Saint John's the one that got added kind of recently that made it eleven. Yeah, yeah, that's right. They added Saint John's back, and so there are there really are eleven teams here. They had to get some more Patino, which I mean, who doesn't, right, But yeah, seven

wins for the Big Twelve. It feels like that they won most of the marquee matchups except for the Shaka Smart Bowl, and yeah, overall great. I'm glad this challenge exists. That's the sarcasm in my voice, because the SEC Challenge, while repetitive, was much more fun. Can you name so, nick? I'm curious because I was trying to do this earlier and really laboring. So this is the fifth year, I believe five, twenty twenty, fourth year of the Big twelve, Big East Battle. Can you name

the teams Kansas has beat? And do you remember all of the games? I certainly don't remember all the games. I could probably take a stab at the team year. It's a sixth year. Sorry, six years started in twenty nineteen, or started in the twenty eighteen nineteen season. They played five different teams, they played one team twice and for yeap Villanova was the first two and they split these con yep. Obviously this year Seaton Hall yep.

That was last year. And you're missing the the COVID year and the COVID year. I haven't played Xavier, he said, Xavier. That is incorrect. There's any No, I didn't. I haven't said a name yet. Okay, I believe they played the game came down to the very very last second. Was that Georgetown it was at Alan, No, it was Creighton came down Marcus Zigarowski with no time left. And then the other game, No, there's one in the year that they won the title and Christian Brown

went off and Mike Anderson got ejected. Mike Anderson, I'm trying to remember what team Mike Anderson coached. It was real controversial when Oh John's, Yeah, because it was real controversial. How they tried to come up with a show cause to throw his ass out, didn't they It was like a fifty million dollars five like, yeah, it was monstrous, Yeah, because they wanted diar dollars that he wanted money. Yeah, yep. So they beat

Villanova at home after the final four when the gerald Vic went off. Then they lost the Villainova on a on a stupid ending. And the year that the eventual team that ended with COVID and then yeah, then they barely beat Creighton. They blew out Saint John's and last year they blew out Seaton Hall and now this year they beat Yukon, So I mean, maybe they get

Marquette considering the blood between those teams. But are there any other teams and the big Julva biggies, are there any other teams you have interest in seeing them play? Maybe Villanova, Marquette, those are probably the top two. No, like maybe Yukon again, they can go to Canton, Creighton. Maybe yeah, Yukon, they can go to Yukon. That'd be kind of

fun. But yeah, okay, let's talk about some of these games in the Big twelve, Big East, and of course we need to start with our friends to the West because they can't stop winning it overtime, Nick, Yeah, Jerome tang Is nine and zeroe overtime. Kansas State has won three

straight overtime games, all at home or Roberts in North Alabama. And Villanova down two with five seconds left against Vilenova, Tyler Perry not the Artist, drained a game winning three that made brammlecherroup, giving Kansas State at seventy two to seventy and win. Drum tang Is now, like I said, nine to zer one overtime games, which is crazy. As for Villanova, they've lost three in a row to Saint Joseph's Drexel. In Kansas State, Kyle

Nepshew was a bad hire. Yeah, he was Villanova's weird man. They looked great in the Battle for Atlantis, and they've I don't think they've won a game outside of the Atlantas Tournament in the last month. K State nine and zer one overtime is nuts. I mean, statistically, overtime games are as fifty to fifty as you can get it. Yeah, and it's even less improbable than that, because go flip a coin nine times in a row and get the same result all nine times, Like, it just doesn't happen.

Even though Kansas State has had a weird week where Jerome Tang started talking crap on the Big twelve, Big Big East Battle, how dare he? And then you had the whole nak one Tomlin thing. So nak one Tomlin got got thrown out a school, or or not thrown out of school because he's graduating in December and he could technically be a grad transfer, but he

got thrown off the basketball team by the university president. And it sounds like that that may have not been Jerome Tang or Gene Taylor the athletic director's decision. So you got fans showing up at the president's house like protesting. You got Jerome Tang, who was it his call? How well is that gonna sit with him if somebody overstepped and made a decision for him about his program. Really weird situation going on with k State. Oh and their football team's

quarterbacks transferring too. There's that, so just a really and I think Johnson's not transferring. They lost their offensive coordinator though, Will Howard's transferring? You're right every Johnson's I'm sure they won't. But yeah, you're right, Colin Klein's leaving. So just a weird week for Kansas State. Jerome Tang,

it feels like the floor is gonna fall out on that eventually. Such a positive guy, so easy to root for, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around KSE State maybe not being as well oiled as a machine as you thought. Oh and also, by the way, I don't really hate KSE State very much, but case State fans talk all this crap every time something happens with Kansas whether it's Josh Jackson kicking a tail light or all the Arterio Morris stuff, which yeah, I mean same, I would,

I would, I would talk crap on Kansas about that too. They butcher that one. But all this stuff about how Kansas doesn't have morals, five level one violations, cheaters, cheater shooters. At Case State, we have Jerome Tang, we have morals, we have ethics. And then Nakon Tomlin gets into a bar fight. Some of the details are still coming out. Rumors that may have involved a woman, Rumors it may have been a pretty nasty shove. We don't know exactly what happened that the facts have not fully

come out. I'm assuming for the university to make the decision to throw him off the team, they do know something. Can't imagine you're just gonna throw an NBA caliber player off your roster unless you're pretty sure you know what's going on. And if they do, kudos to them Case State for getting ahead and saying no to domestic violence. The Case State fans being like, oh, no, no, no, no, what the hell, we can't throw him out. He didn't do what he did. Wasn't that bad.

You can't say that after throwing eggs at the Kansas House for not having any ethics, like just a weird situation. I don't know what exactly happened, but kudos to case State for doing everything that they can to keep the character of their basketball team as good as possible, because that doesn't matter and it's a better look on their program. Maybe they got ahead of the curve on nakwon Tomlin before the news gets too nasty. But we're saying show claw self

as not perfect in that hard to believe. Pretty hard to believe considering all we talk about on the show being damn it Bill, But yes, they are very different. But nice win for kay State. They beat Villanova, they blew a late lead and then they got rescued with the Tyler Perry three. Yeah. All right, enough about kay State, who is kind of lucky not to be like four and four right now for being honest. But hey, they didn't win this game. Good for them. They won the

battle of Wildcats. Yeah, and number eight Marquette won the battle of Shaka Smart's employer. They absolutely ripped through number twelve Texas eighty six to sixty five in a game that was never competitive. The Golden Eagles made fourteen threes and got twenty eight points from Tyler Kollik Shaka Smart got revenge on his old team, the old Longhorns that played two right teams year, and they've lost by double digits against both. I think it's safe to say they're frauds. Ass.

The Longhorns are ass. They got lucky last year. Everybody made it sound like that Rodney Terry was this brilliant coach when Texas was basically ranked exactly the same the day he took over and the day their season ended. That was Chris Beard's team. He kept them afloat kudos. I wondered if that was gonna fall apart they lost their coach halfway through the year. They didn't, and they never did. They made the Elite Eight, they won the

Big Twelve Tournament. They had a nice season. But come on, We've seen so many guys be promoted the top interim coach. Look at Shire, look at what Syracuse is doing. Look at Hubert Davis, look at Kyle Neptune. It just doesn't work more often than it does. And I don't understand it, because, I mean, these these schools have all this money. You're Texas, go out and hire There's like five guys in the world who would say no to you. At this point, you can hire anybody.

Jerome Tang probably says yes for the right price, Like, who'd you rather have lead in your program? I mean, And no shame in Texas losing to Marquette and Yukon, two of the top five teams in the country. But they just it just appears to be another year where they are good, but not quite at the level that with all the money down there they would expect to be in what is going to be their final season in the Big twelve. TCU, did you see the way TCU escaped their game in

Georgetown? Yes, it stounds too Yes he is. All five toes were out of bounds. I don't know how they missed that. The horn Frogs escape with a ridiculous eighty four to eighty three win at Georgetown. Back on Saturday, Emmanuel Miller, who feels like he's been in college for thirty years, hit an insane twenty five foot running and launch heave buzzer beater as he was falling out of bounds. It was a hail Mary shot. It went

in. The only problem is the fact that the officials completely missed a completely obvious step on the step on the sideline right before the shot should have been out of bounds. They looked at it and you technically, I don't believe can take that off the board if you see that he stepped out of balance a couple steps before the shot. Weird situation. You can only review the clock and it was chaos. Refs are refs. The horn Frogs are seven

to zero. Despite Ernest Uday having made four baskets in seven games this year, he has to play Hunter Dickinson in two weeks at the Fog. Good luck. Yeah, and number six Baylor has made it to nine and h after blowing out Seaton Hall. How did they get Seaton Hall in this challenge? Seventy eight to sixty year star freshman Jacoby Walter is averaging fifteen points on

thirty eight percent three point shooting this far this year. Up next for the Bears back to back games against Michigan State and Duke Finally some good competition for Scott Drew. We'll see how they handle it. Yeah, and Houston and Baylor have basically the same record, and they Baylor has a couple more decent wins, like Baylor beat Florida, which is better than anybody Houston's beat, but overall, Baylor hasn't played that tough of a schedule yet. I think

they're the second best team in the Big Twelve. I think they're KU's biggest title threat, but we'll see, because you know, they really haven't been tested. Michigan State isn't great also, but they're talented. The Duke games should be tougher for them just as far as matchups, but we'll see ken Baylor win both of those games. If so, I think it's pretty clear the second best team in the Big Twelve because Scott Drew's the second best coach

on the conference. They have the most talent other than Kansas. So we'll see, but I think it's Kansas and Baylor's league once again. The Grim Reaper is setting up real estate and Mike Boynton's office because I don't know how this can continue much longer. He may not make it through the season. Oklahoma State has already lost five times this year, as they took a seventy to sixty eight l to the mighty Southern Illinois Stallions despite out oh even better

Stallukies, despite out rebounding them by twenty one. How do you lose when you're out rebounding your opponent by twenty one. That's how good. Lord, time to go, mister Boynton. And whoever's coaching West Virginia now probably going to be a short lived time there. Like Oklahoma State. The Mountaineers are three and five. They lost by seventeen to Pittsburgh at home. Oh my gosh, imagine losing by seventeen to pit at anything. That's terrible. Can

you name West Virginia's basketball coach? I know he's an interim and I cannot name this man. I have no idea. It is Josh Eilert, who the athletic director stated in mid June after Bob Huggins got fired. Quote, Josh Eilert is the right person to lead our men's basketball program. Well, I don't know you sure about that. I know that they don't have Kirk Crisa, and he's got to be coming back soon. I think he can come back after ten games, so pretty close. But that will help.

Michael Jordan isn't getting this team winning record this season? Yeah, let's just throw West Virginia West Virginia basketball reference. Let's see what they're struggling at. I'm guessing they foul a lot and don't make many shots, because that's West Virginia every single year. West Virginia this year is wow, almost last end points, bottom ten in points per game. They actually have the fifth fewest

fouls of any team, so they're not fouling very much. Horrible shooting percentage three hundred and fifty third out of three hundred and sixty teams in field goal percentage less than thirty nine percent, So they're bad on offense, is the answer? Good luck with Hunter number three. Houston beat Rice Yay seventy five to thirty nine. Nick. What is the point? Daddy Kimbaum Daddy Kimpbom says that the best team the best efficiency ever because they win the points fifty

point wins by fifty against Texas School the Blind. So the net rankings, which apparently the committee uses, came out a couple of days ago have BYU number two, and I think it was Miami who went up twenty spots in the net for beating who was the team Miami beat yesterday? It was hilarious by being SIU Brooklyn or something Long Island University. They beat them by forty eight points and shot up twenty in the net. It's really a mystery.

How Houston got seated ahead of Kansas last year despite playing an absolute as schedule really blows my mind. And then there's also Iowa Iowa State, which took place tonight and I can't find the score because neither team is ranked and that's

annoying. Iowa State, Wow, they won by a lot ninety to sixty five win for the Cyclones who squash the Hawkeyes at Hilton Coliseum, Iowa's not very good, but still a nice performance by the by Iowa State, who needed a quality win, and I guess that's the closest thing they're gonna get. Iowa State's four games between now and the Startup Conference play Prairie View A and M Florida A and M Eastern Illinois and New Hampshire, all at home

as gross just scrimmage at Iowa State have the same schedule maker. Yep, but that was nothing from an excitement perspective compared to other games, because wow, are there a lot of these necks. Yeah. Immediately after we stopped recording last Saturday, because of course, nothing ever happens after we stopped recording on this stupid show, a string of upsets across the country broke out.

Number three Marquette did indeed lose by eleven against Wisconsin for the second loss of the season, but that was only a taste of things to come throughout the rest of the day. Number seven Duke, who entered as a fourteen point favorite, loss that Georgia Tech seventy two to sixty eight. Tyrese Proctor left within the first two minutes of the night with a leg injury, but it was the Blue Devil defense that could not get stops down the stretch, sending

Duke to its third loss in eight games this year. You lose to Georgia Tech, you might as well fire your head coach, they felt. At the same they fell all the way to twenty two in the polls this week. Yeah, I'm trying to find something about Tyrese Proctor. John Shier said it was a sprained ankle and is his performance is unknown or his status is unknown for their next couple of games. Shire did say he's working to get back. That could mean anything. That could mean he can't walk, or

that could mean he's scrimmaging full speed. But yeah, Duke tumbling in the polls for twenty second because they also lost an Arkansas earlier this week talented team, But boy man, the heat's gonna get cranked up on Shire a little bit if they farked their way to like a six seed or something. They got a lot of talent on that roster preseason. Number two Philipowski, a Player of the Year candidate anchoring, just hasn't been as good as he was

last year. Like man, they should not be struggling like this despite having one of the most talented rosters in all of college basketball. And that's actually unfair of me to say Philipowski hasn't been as good as he has last year nineteen and eight averaging for him. He is not your problem. It's the front court that's been really, it's the backcourt that's been the problem for the Blue Devils. Speaking of problems for teams that were blue, oh my gosh,

it just always gets worse. After we annoined Kentucky one of the best teams in college basketball, then that happens. All sucks wal penis what's wrong with that? Geez? Yeah, they lost the UMC Wilmington. They would in a rep arena in stunnhum twelve Kentucky eight to seventy three, despite twenty five points from Reed Shepherd. Calipari now Twitter twelve and twenty two at home, has lost to Evansville, Richmond, UNC, William Williams Wilmington at RUPP.

I mean Bill self has also lost to Richmond at home. What a Richmond staff. They've won at Rupp and at Allen Field House in the last however many years. But what what are Bill selves? First of all, I'm trying to think if I could even name all of them. What are his? He's lost six non conference home games? What are they? It's San Diego State, Yeah, it's Kentucky. The last time they played there, Richmond beat him. Did Oral Roberts beat him? Or Am I making

that up? I think Oral Roberts did beat him. Let's see here, Bill self home losses. Let's find these these teams. Six non conference home losses Kentucky, San Diego State, Oral Roberts, Richmond, and Arizona State. I forgot about the Remy Martin game. Yeah they did. What year was the Oral Roberts loss? Oh, it was real early in his tenure. Or Roberts beats Kansas. Let's see that game was way back in November of two thousand and six, So that would have been bill selves fourth year,

fifth ye or something like that. Boy, imagine if IP was around when they lost to or Roberts and all. Gosh a I like the TCU episode two, Yeah, only or Roberts much much worse at that point. Yeah, Cal's got some stunners. H He's got some some surprising losses at RUP for sure. And this just isn't what's supposed to happen. Kentucky's gonna be okay, but but god, it's awful. We found out just how legitimate number or number nothing. We found out how legitimate number nothing? Geez,

keep reading that over number. We found out how legitimate seven and O Nebraska was And uh, the answer is were they legitimate? Nope, Nope, not even close. They got absolutely slaughtered, sliced and diced by number fifteen Creighton eighty nine to sixty at home. This game was remember what Kansas did at Missouri Arena last year and we were like, is Missou legit? Let's find out that was this But with Nebraska, this game was never ever

closed. Just embarrassing for the Cornhuskers who still have a long way to go. Yeah, and then moving on to number five, Yukon after losing at Kansas. They've been number nine North Carolina their Jimmy B Classic games eighty seven to seventy six to bounce back from their loss in Allen Field House. The other game in the event featured number twenty Illinois beating number eleven Florida Atlantic ninety eight to eighty nine. Gay points. Yeah, good, good scoring there.

Illinois feels like a really sneaky team. They feel like they very well could be the second best team in the Big Ten. I don't really know who the second best team in the Big Ten is right now. It's damn sure not Michigan State because they already have four losses, losing not even close, seventy to fifty seven at home to number twenty three Wisconsin. Maybe they're the second team of the Big Ten. Nick tell us, how good tom Izzo is? Uh, it's not March, so not good? That's right?

Yeah? Yeah, Michigan State lost four losses four games, already losing seventy to fifty seven at home at number twenty three Wisconsin. And then another team that Ryan really loves looking to run away with the West Coast Conference set again, Number eleven Goodzaga, who handled USC in Las Vegas Saturday night, eighty nine to seventy six. The second best team in the conference might not

even be Saint Mary's this year. The Gails have already lost five times to Webster, Boise State, Utah, Xavier, and San Diego State by twenty five be Caausezaga played a Power five opponent. They won't be playing another one until March, so enjoy it while it lasted. Good Lord, I don't even know how to how do I find who the second best team in the in the that horrible league is? It's not Saint Mary's. Santa Clara has got the second best record, but they just beat a team called men Low

who does not have a picture or an ESPN page? So are they actually? Are they actually any good? Who knows? Really disappointing for Saint Mary's. They were in the top twenty to start the year. Gonzaga is pretty good, and I think Mark Few He's grown on me as the years have gone by. But yeah, at this point, we don't know how good they are and won't know how good they are until we get to until we get to March. So I want to cal Basketball update. Cal. I

was just asking how good Santa Clara Is. They've lost by fifteen at col so clearly they're not very good either. California got their first win in a while, Yay Cow, good work. And finally Grand Canyon, the actual Grand Canyon an old friend of Tyan Grant Foster that seems like Tyan Grant Foster needed to shoot it in the Grand Canyon didn't make anything. Kansas he beat number twenty five San Diego State for their first win over ranked team ever.

Tjf had eighteen points on the right side of history. Finally, also MJ Rice said what six eleven points? Yeah, eleven points for MJ Rice. He made his North Carolina State debut, took eight games, but he's on the floor, only played ten minutes, eleven point six rebounds. They are understandably very excited about what a guy like him could do to their to a

team that's probably gonna be a bubble squad. I know that this wasn't We saw MJ Rice light up a couple of crappy teams at Kansas last year, But I mean, I don't know how much how frequently North Carolina State can say, hey, we got a five star McDonald's all American that we're bringing off the bench. They have big expectations for him, just like I guess

our nation's fourth president. Big expectations there. Yeah. And then to round things out in Retwi you James Madison moved up four spots in the ranking, being a team named lapoom Las all Caps all Caps pre ESPN one hundred and thirty to fifty nine. Why do we play these games? And then also nothing, Oh my god, nothing compared to make Nice State, who played basketball game against a dep three school called Mississippi University for Women and their men.

They went to twenty three against this school of the women and had a forty seven to nine halftime lead. Oh my god, that is. We will do this show for a thousand more years and find five thousand more hilarious schools, and we will never find one. Bro, where do you hoop? Just the Mississippi Women's School, yoh, Mississippi University for women for women, for women school. There's a reason they're not called for men. Name

the thing they're not renamed the school or something. Hey, there's a reason they're not called for men, because wow, are the men bad at basketball? That is amazing to play the women's might as well play in the women's league. You could have had, you could have had you could have bet against mcney States covering a sixty eight point spread, and you would have lost. That's how bad Mississippi University for Women is. All right, right team

to lose. Since the last show, you got a little bit of last week's rankings and a little bit of this week's rankings in here, just because that's a lot of ls, yeah, and a lot of l's. Number three Marquette, who went down a little in the polls already. They lost to Wisconsin. Number seven, Duke lost to Georgia Tech. Number nine, North Carolina lost to Connecticut. Look at all the blue bloods. Number eleven Florida Atlantic lost to Illinois. Last week's number twelve Kentucky lost to the Sagahawks

of UNC Wilmington. Number twelve Texas lost to Shaka Smart's new team. Number eighteen, Villanova lost the direct Soul, fell out of the top twenty five and lost the k State. Number twenty one Mississippi State lost to Southern and number twenty five San Diego State lost to Grand Canyon, first time ever they've been in this. If you ever wonder if there's too many Division one basketball teams. Look at the Southern and Grand Canyon University and how they're beating top

twenty five schools. Nick, you actually over looked a team. They were between nine and twelve. You miss number ten, Mississippi University for Women. No, just kidding, they're number ten. And what middle school men's basketball league, the Church League, the YMCA sixth grade rec League. They are probably a top ten team in terms of names and hilariousness of them, because that's what are they? What's their mascot? What is Mississippi scrimmage? The

Lady of the Lake? Oh my gosh? Or yeah, our Lady of the Lake. So I was doing a research. I was researching a stat about Houston and how many ranked teams they've played compared to Kansas. The Owls. Yeah, they are a Misissippi University for women Owls correct. Their endowment is a mere forty three million dollars. It was formerly known as the Industrial Institution in College for the education of White Chris of white girls, white girls,

the education of white girls is just kuve sororities. That was pretty funny, that could be. But no, I was being researched on a Houston stat because someone's like, Houston's won four more games than Kansas the last three years. That's pretty good. By the way, Houston has played nine games against ranked opponents in that time period, in Kansas has played forty five.

So I'm glad that they were within four. But what's hilarious is Houston actually did in the COVID season play Our Lady of the Lake and they counted it as a victory, an actual victory against that school. Give me a break. I don't know how that game counts, but I also don't know how this podcast counts. So let's ask some questions you guys cooked this week and

ask our CBS, and I'm stoked to absolutely care through these. I'm gonna start with some of the questions from last show that we missed because there were some we recorded a lot earlier in the day than normal. Several of you asked some questions. Let's answer him here at Rock Chuck aj Nick, Let's go fast, fast fast. If you could pick any past sporting event to go, what would it be? Kansas Missouri twenty twelve. Good answer on that one, I would say, as someone who was there the Chiefs winning

the Super Bowl against the forty nine ers. That was something I waited my entire life for. Finally got to see it. Got to see the Chiefs win a Super Bowl. Never gonna be able to see one because you're not spending that kind of money just to maybe watch them lose. Super Bowls are too competitive, but yeah, that would be outstanding. Close second Mario Chalmers shot against Memphis at Campbell Poe Golf. What Christmas movie would Dan Hurley star

in? Grumpy Old Men? I was gonna say he kind of has the attitude. The Hurley brothers could absolutely be two of the bad guys in Home Alone that chase Kevin up the stairs and just make it Kevin mccollor. And they were unsuccessful at stopping Kevin in the movie. Just like Dan Hurley. Patino seems like a better wet Bandit than Dan. That's perfect. Yeah, Rick Patino and his son they are the wet Rick Patino's time at Louisville was

the wet bandits. YEP, that's completely correct. At Dick underscore Taser. That was kind of weird how the last podcast ended with Nick moaning for like six seconds something. You guys want to tell us what's going on behind the scenes. Why did you moan for six seconds at the end of the show? What is he I don't know. Did you hear something at the end of the show. I didn't. I thought I cut out early. I think you said hm a lot of times. Maybe you didn't. I have

to go back and listen. Now I'm interested in that. If Wayne Kerr says that you moaned, you moaned Sir at Rick at rock chock AJ if you could get rid of the trolls or the bots on X what would it be? This is not even close. If they're all k K fans are all the same, I mean, what's the difference? It's all but easy with that one. It's it's the bots. It's definitely the bots. The trolls make me laugh. I love a good troll. I definitely don't need

I don't need the bots though they don't they don't add anything here. Okay, let's look at I'm trying to find any other questions that were submitted there that we're not on the last podcast. If I missed any, let me know. But the wise, I think that cleans up the ones that we didn't get last time. Now we go on to this show. All right, here we go. Food question at Kate Tweets and News. Where does raisin canes rank among chicken restaurants and why is it the best? Oh?

Take, okay, what a bad taste? I know, I know Nick's got Nick raising canes, so you really no, it's all right, Like I used to eat there a lot, but then like it's very tasteless, healthier. It's just it's it's so bland, like the chicken is so the tenders are so so boring, man, they just sti't have much flavor. You need the sauce and they never You never get enough of the sauce there. I will say getting double toast there is. The toast is really good

at at raisin canes. The fries are bad though. The kalsa is always bad. So you're really talking about some mid mid and then some toasts. But you don't go to a restaurant to get toasts. Raisin canes is overrated. It's just all carbs too. Like you talk about why America is just diabetes city. You know, that's really probably why we eat it raisin canes for lunch. But that toast that comes with raising canes sure helps. But

yes, I agree. I think that every bit of raising Canes except for their lemonade, which I know Nick doesn't like the Chick fil A lemonade similar concept raising like lemonade in general. That's also a wild take raisin cake, which do you like better? Women with armsleeve tattoos are lemonade women with arm sleeve tattoos? Wow? Nick hates lemonade next on the news. So raisin canes is inferior and always to slim chickens. It just is slim chickens is

is all right too. I mean, it's just chicken tenders. Like, if we're gonna get chicken tenders, just go to like chick Fla or something. You're not a Zaxby's guy. Zaxbies is pretty good. Zaxby's is trash. Wow, Okay, Nick is hard to please with his chicken I guess chick Fla. I am a chicken tender connoisseur. I literally told you in the last show I ranked the top one hundred honey mustards. Then how do

you think Zaxby's is Zaxby's. I used to think Zaxby's is good, but I just don't like chicken tenders that much anymore because Yeah, I was gonna say that's a good way to to tire out of them k tweets and news To answer your question, raising Kenes is the middle of the pack chicken restaurant. But I I respect it if you I'll respect it if you want to rank it high because it's popular. Is furfee turning into the to go piece on the bench or turning into the go to bench piece over piece? Yeah?

Too much food. Seems to be playing the best defense off the bench. Not ready to go there, Still think mcdoll's a better defender. Furfey at this point appears to be the best of the guys that come off the bench, because it damn sure ain't Timberlake. Yeah, and what happens to your mental health when you see Parker Brown in the game. Let's see if I can find a sounder that'll uh, that'll, well, what happens if I look this up? No, I don't want to drop the base.

I just want like a new like going down a slide kind of noise. That's my Uh, that's my answer. Nope, that's a coin drop. Definitely don't need that one. Uh, Nope, don't see anything that Uh what about slide? If I look up slide. Oh, that's that, but the opposite that went up? I need something that but so yes, slide, okay that but also opposite. You get the point, right, is that you two? That one's called scream going downslide, which will also

work at Kamblopolt Golf. And a Battle Royale, Oh god, a Battle royale with nak Won, Tomlin, La, Gerald Vic and Josh Jackson. Which one wins and why? Probably? Uh Josh Jackson. I mean he did, but Tom Win's six' ten. Tom One's the biggest, so I don't know about his fight skills. Josh Jackson supposedly knocked someone out, so that's the rumor. Lagerald Vic and Josh Jackson have not been accused of that, even though I think Josh Jackson did get accused of rape not too

long ago, which is great. At Trevius ninety nine, is it, Travius Trevius, let me know, give me the give me the pronunciation of your name on the next time you ask a question here, would you rather do Wan Harris shoot three for four or three for twelve, because I don't think shooting more shoots shooting more shots will equal more makes for him I mean that's fair, Like there's my inner land, and if you're listening there,

it's like he was here the whole time. Dwan. Harris does seem to go three for four a lot, but it does seem like the more he shoots, he doesn't have a lot of seven for twelve games. It does kind of seem like it's either three for four or three for twelve. You're right, I'd like to see Harris shoot close to ten times a game.

I think that he's a good enough shooter to justify that. H Aj asked a few of the questions that we went back and got actually from the last podcast also asks from at Rockchalk. Aj which transfer from last year's team would be the biggest help on this year's team. It's MJ. Rice. Yeah, like, not even close. They don't need a big with Dickinson unless Dickinson gets hurt. Ouda would be nice to have off the bench. Parker Brown can do seventy percent of what Ernest do Day can. He's actually been

the better player this year. It's it's MJ. Rice, a guy that you kind of take a little bit of a higher upside lottery ticket on. That's an athlete he can run. The shooting is a question mark, but he can play defense. That's the guy you want. Another one from AJ here, who have you been the most impressed with on this KU team through nine games? kJ? Adams. That's a good answer, McCuller was also comes to mind. Mccullar, Dickinson, and Adams are all fair here.

You knew Cola was going to take a jump as Super Senior season though, Yeah, but I didn't know he'd be one of the ten best players in the country. And then there's also I think Johnny Furfy's a fair answer too. You can say that he's been impressive. I think those have been the only four guys that have been better than expected. Though Parker Brown maybe, but he's been about flat. And Timberlake has been worse than you thought Harris. I don't know if worse is fair, but he hasn't been better,

that's for sure. Uh And and al Marco Jackson hasn't been better than we thought he was going to be either, So pretty mixed bag. There one more question from AJ. Let's ask the big question. Would you want or accept Nakwon Tomlin on this team? No? No, no, no, No more domestic violence people. We do not need anyone that beats women on this basketball team. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm also just look going

to keep out distractions at this point. And I mean they also, I don't think they have a huge need for a guy who's six y ten like Dickenson's gonna play Kj's shouldn't lose minutes either, like he would be a bench piece. Ernest new Day transferred out and Tomlin's way better than new Day at this point, So I don't think that Tomalin would have a lot of desire to come here at this point. And I'm with you, I don't even care. I'm not even necessary And this may be wrong, but I'm not

really that interested and letting every single detail play out. If domestic violence is involved and they threw him out of college or threw them off the team because they knew something was up, I don't have a lot of interest in using or spending a lot of resources on bringing that guy onto my team at the halfway point, Like, I just don't need it. At Matt Underscore Gallantine, what's your favorite Christmas song? Nick's not gonna have an answer for this.

I feel like you don't really like Christmas music. I don't like Christmas music mainly it's just man like the Frank Sinatra and like the throwback, like like those guys with like the old voices. Those those Christmas songs are good. But like if when I think a Christmas song, I think of like Wham Last christ or whams was last Christmas or whatever, so awful like Mariah Carey's song is terrible, like any song with just like drinling jingle bells in

the background, you know, like that annoying bell sound. So here's a formula for the music industry if you haven't figured out by ya. If you're an artist who's needing to make money desperately, all you need to do is grab a microphone, jingle bells in the background, start singing whatever you want to sing. As long as you have something about snow, something about Christmas, something about fire place or some missiletoe, and you write a song about

it, people will somehow listen to that. I don't know. It's like the homemark Christmas movies. Those are terrible, the plot's terrible, but people still watch them and they have a huge cult follow. Christmas music is all all together the same thing, you know. I like the like the Christmas, like more Christian Christmas music, songs like Silent Night and you know, some stuff like that, but like the Christmas the commercial Christmas music they play

on the radio in retail stores. If I worked in a retail store and had to listen to that every single day for two months, I would probably have you found hanging somewhere in the back of the store. It's me. I'm the reason that those songs are so popular because I absolutely love that, love that so much. Love commercial Christmas music. I got too though, Where Are You Christmas? Song by Faith Hell from the Grinch movie So bad? Get out of here, Get out of here? Okay? Is it

better than chick lemonade? T fl Eliminade's not bad? I just don't like it. And the other one that I like is Bruce Springsteen Santa Claus Is Coming to Town where it turns into like a saxophone song, pretty awesome, Saxophone's good. I felt like that one would be one of the most tolerable. Speaking of tolerable at AJ as an Underscore official, on a scale of one, it's and how tolerable is Brian Haney To listen to zero zero?

I'd rather listen. I'd rather listen to the games called by somebody in Spanish. Seriously, I can't that's more exciting. Kevin wants a three Bengo, he gets a three. Oh my gosh, somebody stand out Bob Davisish. Yes, yes, we went from Swish to what Kevin reciprocates. He just got one from kJ and now he gets a three. Oh my gosh, Yeah, Bengo, bulls eye naked stop. Yes, it's like he's reading it like a children's book. Yeah. He's a game show host. He's

a corny game show host from the seventies. And and Brian Haney's a good guy. He does a lot of good things for Kansas, and I've said before he's a great ambassador to Kansas. If you hire an announcer, it's Brian Haney, that's what you want. But I just can't stand his voice. And I think he's a cornball. And every time he reads a poem, I want to die a little bit, and I do die a little bit inside at Dick Underscore Taser. You have to live the rest of your

sad, entire, insignificant life without socks or a belt. What's it going to be? A belt. I'll find ways my pants can fall down. I need socks. Uh, yeah, I wouldn't want to walk around barefoot. No go way. Yeah, I feel like that's opening up to more problems. You can step on things. I'm assuming if I don't have access to to socks, I don't have access to tennis shots, So don't want to risk steping on things that meant the yeah, just to go commando on

your feet. So it doesn't sound great at Elliott Russon h one going back to doing the fun questions again this year, so Nick doesn't lose his mind like that, even though you're just joking your you're serious, because yeah, we all we all try to get Nick to not lose his mind, especially whenever the other co host is gonna dip out because of having a little tickle

in the back of his throat. So let's not tick nick off. Do you do you think that you could all live in a climate that's consistently negative twenty to negative thirty degrees? No, oh my gosh, no, no could I could not. I would rather it be one hundred degrees outside than fifty. So if that tells you what I think about it, negative twenty two. Yeah, that's I know that you won't like that. No, the answer is no, But I could do it if it was a hot

What is with you and Landa in extreme temperatures? Like, what is I just want a seventy five and sunny degrees seventy five between sixty five and seventy five degrees and sunny every single day? Yeah, No, it's it's I mean that that seventy five would work much more than that. Much less than that, and we're gonna have some problems. But I would take eighty eight and a heartbeat every day at show me Hawk too hot. This is a

question about the team we just played. The Kansas City area is home to several dedicated sports fan bases like the Royals, Chief Sporting Casey, Current Jayhawks, Wildcats, Tigers. What can be done to create a culture for the Kansas City roots? Good question. We've seen them go by Kansas City because you've seen other teams like Memphis and Houston and Syracuse. Right, they rebrand their their name after the big cities and it helps branding, but also winning.

They need to win, like winning fixes everything. If you build it, they will come. Remember the Royals, how attended those games were those couple of years. They were all a horrible team forever, and they filled that stadium whenever. All they did was well, it doesn't. I don't think it matters all together. I mean, it's a commuter school. It's

a small commuter school in the Summit League in Kansas City. There's already the college market's already way too saturated with KU K State and Missouri fans and KC. So it's just it's not gonna it's never gonna be any There's not gonna be a prominence there. If they win, it will help, though, Like right now they're being picked eighth out of nine teams in their conference. That what are they a Summit League school? Like, that's not gonna that's

not gonna help very much. They need to do. They need to do more than that. And I think people would go. I do. I think people in this town like college basketball, and I think people would be willing to go watch a team that competes for conference championships at Preston, Sir Sick. This is a great question. What celebration is better? And you know the ones I'm talking about, Jamary McDowell's. After mccullor makes threes or

Hunter Dickinson's after he makes big threes. I assume you know most of you know both of these celebrations. Correct. I don't know that Jamarry McDowell, but I'm gonna assume it has to do with a ball. Yeah, he does, so Hunter dickens or so Kevin mccullor had a corner three that that put him up against Yukon, and they showed Jamary McDowell looked like he was balancing gigantic testicles on the sidelines in sinuating that that's what Kevin mccullar has for

taking the shot. I liked the simplicity of Hunter Dickinson just whipping out his forearm right there at half court. And the reason I liked it was because Kansas, as the number one team in the country, was down three possessions when he did it, and he just didn't carry. He's like, yep, I'm gonna do this anyway. I had a big don't like any of it. I didn't like lude. I don't like cocking this. I just

like I didn't like the Christian brown stick. I just like I think the most cocky in the most confident someone can be is just go out there and ball and just you know, just play the game like you let your game do the talking and not chirping the entire game. So at ajsn Underscore Official, what is your take on Division zero college basketball? I do not know what Division zero college basketball is. I have no idea. All right, tell send it to us. I assume this is an article or something I

want to read about Division zero college basketball. Send it to me at Rockchuck AJ. How happy are you that you aren't a K State fan right now? I mean always, but yeah especially. Somebody tweeted at me a while back that said, the gap between KU basketball and k State basketball is smaller than the gap between K State football and KU football. And you still feel that way? Still still feel that way, because that's sure I do. At JFOs four, Harris has also said frequently that he's a pass first guy,

but our bench isn't contributing much very often as the floor general. Shouldn't you recognize your team need it's more scoring and can't rely every day gaming? Yeah, on the on the big three, he shoots well, but more is better. He needs to be aggressive on offense correct co sign Yes he does. And I think you're gonna see it more. Uh, the shooting

percentage going up will help. And then last question here at Evan at Evan Numbers told you I was gonna start calling you that most underrated b ball moment in the Border War. Oh man, I'm not much of us. I was only sixteen whenever they played for the last time as conference rivals, so I don't have a huge knowledge of this. I mean, the there was a game and I don't remember what year it was. I think it was

two thousand and two when uh you had was it? J R. Giddons and Nick Collison hit back to back just crazy shots to beat them in Columbia. Uh, in the in the very very end of the Roy Williams era, the Thomas Robinson block feels like the easy answer here because I don't really remember. Yeah, I guess yeah, underrated is not. I mean last year is pretty good, Kansas going in playing nine in o Missouri with the friggin football coach had that stupid ass sign and they just they just ripped them

apart from the jump. That was funny. I need to do more research. I was also eleven when they last played in a conference game, so not really don't recall much of that. I would love to note reverse ASCARCB. Tweet at me and I'll read the best response on the show. What is? For those of you who have had the privilege of watching more Kansas Missouri games or just remember things better than we do, tell us what are some of your most favorite and underrated Border war moments? Featured a lot of

good moments for Kansas fans. If you ever have ascarcbs, use a Twitter hashtag x hashtag ASCARCB and help me drown out the stupid ass spots. All right, I do this every time they play. I've yet to get a copyright strike. I assume they don't care. So uh, we're gonna We're gonna play it again because this is this is what's next. We have to what's that in the zoom Tiger Nation? Baby? You got something for us? Yeah? Man, we have a freestyle song. No problem, man,

one take Max? You think we can do it once? Easy? Worst coach these days anyway, Arkansas? Come on, Andrew, Hey man, you know the worst thing about Arkansas? What's that got you here? Here? We're not knocking all the waiting, baby, gotta waking we Zoe? Who you all these kids have basketball jerseys tucked into their shorts. They're

the whitest people on earth. Such a good video. I don't care what play my audio over that now from here on out, I'm well, yeah, we can have two of them, because that's that's a must, and this game is a must if we're being honest. Missouri at number two. Kansas for the Borders showdown on Saturday night, December ninth, getting closer and closer to Christmas time at four point fifteen pm. Interesting TV start time, I guess. And the Tigers, who uh boy, you know we much

to make about the Tigers every time Kansas plays them. They have some questions. They enter at seven and two overall, and they absolutely should be nine and oh because the two losses are Memphis at home, where they led by fourteen at one point, and Jackson State where they were a twenty two point favorite. Shouldn't have lost those games. This should be nine and oh. They are their best wins at pitt and versus Wichita State, both coming in

the last two games. Yep and Senior god Sean East the second sounds wider than Land and Fields is Missouri's best player, averaging seventeen points and why. Primarily it lies to driving to the basket. He is shooting an unbelievable sixty two percent for three this year elite three point shooter Nick Wiper, sorry Nick Honor Wing, Tamar Bates and from your foe, Caleb Grill Surprice, No, not again, not again, shooting twenty nine three this years. You

know what that means? Yeah, roll out the four for five because you know wherebues score threes. Okay, time for Caleb Grill. And then they got some random girls who I assume they paid to do this because why else would any women be seen with these dorks that start doing the white girl dance there and at the Miszoo monument, and then that was this was the year. They're all in their SEC shirts. And then they got Norfolk pretty good.

The Tiger front court is anchored by six six Noah Carter, whoeverages thirteen and six while playing a versatile power forward position. He's a little bigger than kJ Adams similar sort of playmaking ability here. They do have a seven to five center and Connor vanover seven five if Hunter Dickinson looks small compared as a result there, but he only averages about fourteen minutes per game, doesn't play very much. He's very unathletic. Hunter will will do bad things to this

man they if they leave him one on one too much. The Tires shoot a lot of threes and make them at an average pace, and they're lead at blocking shots thanks to Van Over, but they're a middle of the pack team and on offense with seventy five points per game and a forty six team field goal mark. They've been on bad on the glass, particularly offensively. They take just four more two's per game than threes, which will be probably

even more lopsided with Hunter Dickens in the middle. Their strategy on Saturdays seems obvious too obviously be true. They're going to try to shoot a lot of threes in onfield house. That's that's really comforting because every time that a team shoots a lot of threes against Kansas, it goes great, and especially whenever that opponent is where bussing. I love this video so much, I just want to play it over and over again. What are you gonna do if

Missouri comes to town? Because you know they're not knocking. Oh gosh, that song and that song is leg genuinely kind of good. They deleted all the comments. It's it's so bad, it's good. Yes, it's that. Yeah, there is no school that Kansas has played more than Missouri. You probably know this. This will be the two hundred and seventieth meeting all

time. The school has been playing for a very long time. The Jayhawks lead the series, won seventy five to ninety four, and the score of the first game played in nineteen oh six was Missouri thirty four Kansas thirty one. Oh my gosh, I can't imagine watching that Bill self is seventeen and

four. Villa Virginia's like, look at us one hundred years later. If Virginia's like, hey, we're perfectly good at that Bill self eleven and zero against the Tigers at Allen field House, it's I believe, other than Colorado, the team in Oklahoma, a team that's the most amount of games he's played against the team at Allen field House without having a loss. So what

do we do here? Lammon says Kansas by twenty seven. We don't have a line for this, but I also kind of think that it's like, Okay, so my gut, my initial gut says Kansas absolutely spanks Missouri they have the last two years. They're gonna be geeked up. But my brain says, eventually, Missouri's gotta keep one of these games kind of close, right, I don't know. I wouldn't touch the line. I don't think Missouri can answer a Hunter Dickinson. But I think Missouri's gonna hit some shots.

And I think because of that, this game's a little closer than maybe some fans would like it to be, but still a comfortable Kansas win. I will go Kansas eighty seven Missouri seventy five. Jayhawks win a game that's never really in doubt, but they never can really truly pull away for the blowout either. Yeah, I was gonna take the same ankle. I just don't see the they blow this team out three years in a row. It

just doesn't happen in college basketball. This team hasn't really blown anyone out this season either, since the first two non conference games. I think Missouri's gonna be up for this past two years, Missouri's seemingly been a little bit overrated or a little bit overrated. Coming into this game. This team might be a little underrated. I know they lost to Jackson State, but they've got some like you said, good three point shooters. Give me Kansas eighty seven

Missouri eighty. Well, okay, I don't think Missouri scoring eighty on Kansas, but if they do, then that's gonna trigger some some apocalyptic gascarcbs and I'm down for that. Hopefully the Jayhawks can can beat Missouri for what would be the third straight time, fourth straight time if you count the twenty twelve

game. And yeah, it should be a great atmosphere tho. At Allen Fieldhouse ticket prices falling fast Landon when they played two years ago at the Fog, purchased the ticket an hour before the game started and just drove out and checked it out. If the tickets get to that price point again where I think it was like forty bucks, you should do it. This is one of the best games you're ever gonna get to witness. Allen Hills House falling fast ninety one dollars for the up two A level. Wow, was it

really so fidy? So Bobby Norell, who used to write for Rock Chalk Blog, messaged me over the summer and said the cheapest ticket was to eighty When this game was announced last week got checked again. It was one thirty. Now the cheapest is ninety five. They're falling fast, So wait, wait until right before the game, and head on up to Fallallen if it looks like it's worth it, because this is a I've been there for a couple of these. There is a brilliant atmosphere that is worth witnessing. Other

games. We got nine other games. Is a big week of college basketball. Big weekend is on tap here. Number sixteen Kentucky at Penn The Quakers took down Villanova at home. Kentucky not great on the road. What happens? Oh, Kentucky's gonna win. Yeah, I think Kentucky's got to get this done. They can't lose again to an inferior opponent, even though landed

things. The Quakers take down Kentucky, which is an interesting call. Number twenty Illinois at number seventeen Tennessee. Do we all want Rick Barnes's team? I don't know. I think they get a win. I think they quality win here. I do too. I just think that if they can't lose them all in, they're there. This is These are two really good teams though Alabama versus number four Perdue in Toronto, they're not going to lose Zach EDI's homecoming. Give me the boiler Makers. Yeah, Purdue, Number twenty

three Wisconsin at the number one team in the land Arizona. Wisconsin has beat Arizona in the NCAA Tournament several times, but I think the Wildcats get this one. Yeah, it's at Arizona. Sigim me Arizona Arkansas against number nineteen Oklahoma. Here's where I will zig where Land and Zags, I will take the Razorbacks. This game is in Tulsa, so it's not technically a home game, but close enough. I think the Sooners are overrated, and I

think Arkansas takes them down. I think Oklahoma's good. I think they beat Arkansas. Number twenty four Clemson against TCU and Toronto. I guess I'm assuming that's a doubleheader there, TCU finally playing a ranked opponent. Do they get a dub U No, interesting, I think they do. I think TCU is a top five Big twelve team. If they are, these are the type of games they have to win. You gotta beat the fourth best ACC

team if you're gonna be a top five Big twelve team. Number fourteen BYU at Utah, the Cougars are undefeated and have climbed all the way to the top fifteen. I think the running is here in this rivalry game. Give me Utah at home, you touch trash. Give me u AU. Number seven Gonzaga versus Washington in Seattle, Battle of the Washington Schools. We all

want the Bulldogs. Yeah, Washington's bad. And then Colorado against number fifteen Miami and a game that's gonna take place in New York City on Sunday afternoon. I am still up on the Hurricanes. I think Larnage is a good coach. I think they win. I think Colorado wins this game. Good good take All right? Interesting, So we got a whole week between shows, so a show is probably coming to you in the early part of next week. And then the Jayhawks next game at Indiana, a game that will

not be easy even at the Hoosiers. They did get a nice win. Hoosiers won at Michigan the other day and that random Big Ten Conference opener. They play Auburn here coming up, so we'll see. But so far Hoosier's only one loss to Ukon so they've been perfectly serviceable this year. We'll see what happens. Then until then, this is inside the Paint on Rock Chuck Blog. I'm Ryan Landrath and I am Parker Wipert Parker Wippert, I like it, or Nicholas Timberlake. Well, I guess you can't even make it.

Nicholas Yeah, I mean that's my actual name. So Nick Timberlake, Yeah, Timberlake Wiper No, boy, that's I think I prefer. Considering how much trash you talk about being able to beat a girls middle school team, I think I trust you at a Nick Timberlake at this point to go out there and make me some threes. All right, anything, somebody say goodbye to land and say some some party work then, and hopefully your date with your sister and your mom went well. I got nothing. Hopefully you

get over your sniffles be offered. You're a small cold that you decided it's get the podcast over. Couldn't could have made it your flu game, but you didn't land In. You let us down. Come on landing In, buddy, all right, Yeah, you're right. I gotta I gotta end with that. You're you're completely right here. Come on, buddy, come on Landing, Come on, buddy, behave yourself. We will

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