ITP: Kansas seeks answers after surprising loss in Morgantown

Almost as Blue Ridge mountains and pants log is a little older than the trees, younger than the mountains grow in lagrees. But aunt place and West Virginia down, Mama, thank you more country roads. I don't know what think you do from here. I'm still so annoyed. But all I have to say is just damn. Every time I start to think that Lucy's gonna let me kick that ball and Bill's gonna win it all in Morgantown again, well

then he does the only logical thing. Remember on the last show where we talked about how, hey, something we haven't ever gotten to do is a nice comfortable blowout when in stillwater. This is exciting. Well, now we gotta do something we've done many, many, many, many, many many many times, which is talk about them going up to where else but and taking a big fat l where something stupid at the end of the game happens.

Yeah, I mean it's happened several times. This is probably this is arguably the worst time, though, because this is the worst on there. Like, if you rank all the West Virginia teams, there's a decent chance that you could say Kansas won up there against the best one, which was the eight team team and they've lost against the two worst ones. Painful, just a painful loss for Kansas, who loses second week in a row.

They've lost just a head scratching road game, but this one was oh so very different than Central Florida, And yeah, what else are we gonna do? Then? This squeeze in a show right before the Chiefs go up to Orchard Park and play a road playoff game. I'm sure that'll that'll go great, Sis setting up for there's no no history of Kansas losing to West Virginia

and yeah, that's that is wild. All of the each of the other two Patrick Mahomes playoff losses as of right now, happened happened right after that, right, I guess he's lost three, but two of the three whatever, Yeah, yeah, the last two. This is inside the paint on rockchokblog dot as. I'm Ryan Landrath, I'm Caadarius Tony's injury. I am Bob Huggins waistband for both of us. So the Jayhawks go up the old or sorry, we're watching an NFL playoff game, trying not to react live.

I'm gonna do my darnedest, But if I do. Yeah, I just do. Ugs, Bunny, we're gonna talk about Kansas losing to West Virginia. Uh, you know that just on this show, and then we're still like the complete and utter pieces of that. We are gonna pick them to win their next game. It's complete sweet because we never learned from our mistakes or our sins on this show. So let's just let's just get on with it. Let's get on with this, this awesome recount ninety one,

number three, Kansas eighty five. Landon wrote these notes and he wrote, hello Darkness, my old and that that feels about right. What happened? What was that? Well? You said that this was terribly different than the UCF game, Ryan, and I mean, it was certainly much higher scoring

than that. But I feel like this was just the higher scoring version of that game in Orlando, because this was a game that Kansas should never ever lose, and yet does because the opposing team makes insane make after insane make both from three and two, and wrote in this case to a very high

scoring shootout. Both teams at fifty before the break. Kansas did have some stretches where they seemed to take momentum, but the Mountaineers always took it back, and they led for all but thirty five seconds, at least according to my count of the last fourteen minutes of the basketball game. Kansas defense and rebounding were a little suspect for much of the game, though, of course, some of those made threes from Westernia have nothing to do with the defensive

effort of the Hawks. They just went in. Nick, let's take a let's each take a side. Do you want to take though, why this isn't that bad side? Or do you want to take the why this is a big, fat problem side. I'm gonna take the I told you so a side. I've mentioned many times that this team just has serious lapses defensively. I mean you saw that in this game, serious lapses defensively and just down the stretch in some of these games, not closing it out in a

strong manner. I just ate a fortune cookie from Panic Express, and it said, only your expectations can slow you down. Well, when my expectations are bill self winning games on the road, very very low expectations for that. But I will say that so much. I will say that this, of course West Virginia, the one game they make more than what from the field from three they make ten to three pointers and it's just, I mean, it's absurd. There's it was a cataclysm of a bunch of different factors

come in into play here. I don't think hundred Dickinson looks one hundred percent healthy. I don't know what that was defensively for him in this game, but he was not even present at times defensively, even in the paint. And it seems like ky you switches were terrible, wide open threes for Westerninia

left and right, and then down the stretch. You know that Kevin mccouler had a huge, a huge stretch there, but outside of him, you know, it seemed kind of like Johnny Furfey, who we were really high on the first half, kind of disappeared offensively and defensively in the second half. Nick Timberlake, who had a spark in the first draft, was not there in the second half either, And of course, on Marco Jackson came in and did what on Marco Jackson does is absolutely nothing. And that was

the result. KU loses another road game to another stinker team in the conference. It's perplexing. They played well offensively in this game. You can't cite their cap for that eighty five points in the road, but at the same time, everything just happened to go wrong down the stretch they tied it up. I texted you guys and said, this is the game. This is the part of the game where Ku is gonna go on there, run and close it out, win by seven to ten. And that didn't happen,

just like the UCF game. So it is perplexing, all right, So there's that side landon. I'm gonna give my spiel and then you can tell you can tell everybody which side you think is more right. Nick took the more pessimistic side. I've thought about this. I've thought about this a lot. I've had at some time to digest this one, and I'm still pretty annoyed about it, which I don't normally stay after games. But I think that I'm more annoyed than I am troubled. Like I didn't. I don't

feel like I watched anything that makes me think less of this team. I don't think I watched anything that makes me think, well, that's a big problem, or oh they're not good enough. They scored eighty five points on the road like it was an annoying game where definitely a middling team had their best day of the year. They made a bunch of shots they shouldn't have.

Somebody said that if they each team had made their season average of threes relative to how many they took, Kansas would have won by fourteen points. But like, I feel like what I watched was a team that normally wins eighty percent of the time where they're tied with five minutes left, that now twice in two weeks has not done that. That's unlike what we've come to know of bill self, especially on the road, and they've definitely hurt themselves

in the conference race. They have a much easier schedule in the first half. In the back half, they're three and two. They've lost road games to two of the worst three teams in the league, so that may be a problem. But do I think that this team is that there's going to be a moment in the NCAA Tournament where I think back to this game about how all, just like West Virginia, that's why they're gonna lose. No, I really don't. I think that they really did run into a bad

team that played their best day and the offense was plenty good enough. They didn't turn it over very much, had a couple of big ones down the stretch, but I thought they played well enough to win that exact effort. Kansas gives wins ninety five per sin of games they play in that coliseum. It just wasn't good enough yesterday. I'm definitely irritated, and we're definitely gonna play the White Guy music and complain about it. But I don't think I

saw anything that leaves me more troubled than I was before. Am I am I wrong? I don't know. I'm trying to take glass half full. I do agree with that, take that, Yeah, I don't. I didn't see anything from this game that has been a lagging issue for Kansas other than like bench production, I guess. But even the bench Nick Timberlake was good. We'll talk about him. But yeah, I think that's true. I think that is true that I don't think this game had any of like

the true telltale signs of what will be a Kansas's inevitable marchal loss. And maybe it is maybe, maybe that marchal loss happens and it is exactly this game. It didn't feel like that, Like a lot of the games. Do like the UCF loss. Truly did feel that way the UCF loss.

We've watched them lose that tournament game many times. Yeah, I don't think I'm overly concerned because of this game, though it is very strange that they've lost to maybe the worst two teams in the conference, or certainly two of the worst three. That is weird and that does not normally happen for Kansas.

West Virginia definitely right now is the worst among the resume. I will say that I think West Virginia will have a better second half of the year than first because they've had a lot of guys, like three of their top five scorers have missed half the season. Crease It didn't play half the year. Jesse Edwards hasn't played since December, Ray Kwon Battles only played eight games. I think that team will be more competitive in the second half. Certainly,

they have been just abysmal to this point. They had six wins before yesterday UCF. We saw how they they're setting records for futility. They were so bad yesterday so and honestly, if they just won one of them, if they just found a way to win one you're four and one, you're in first place, and you have your early January stinker. You still have a winning record on the road. It's the fact that they lost them both that that really burns. Uh. But yeah, it was a it was

a it was a frustrating basketball game. Weird stuff happens there. Uh. And and they're not perfect. But do I still think they're not one of the five best teams in the country because they lost a game like this? No, I still think they are. I mean, we have eyes, We've seen the rest of the teams. Right, Can you honestly name me five teams better than Kansas even after that? I don't think five. No. And and here's I'm gonna I'm gonna kick off with this for t Purdue

is better. Yes, I think Yukon's probably better, honestly. And then North Carolina might be better. Right now, North Carolina's really really untested. But yeah, probably like that. You might you might get to three or four. I don't know if you can get more than that. I'm certainly not putt anybody in the Big twelve over them. The three point shooting defense, I'm gonna I'm gonna as the as the the intellect of ku Twitter. I'm gonna let you in on a secret. Three point defense isn't a thing.

It's not a thing. You guys can think that's not true. Though, that's not true. No, it is true. It is all right. Let me ask you this is definitively thing. Would you rather give a college shooter a wide open shot or a very gardage? Okay, okay, obviously, yes, you got to put your arms up. But good three point shooting defenses versus bad ones, It's is eighty percent of the equation is

luck. You can think back right now to which Kansas teams were really good on the interior defensively, right, some teams would come to mind, the ones with Joelle Enbi, the ones with Jeff Wi right, that would come to mind. Yes, can you, I dare you right now name the best three point shooting defensive teams in Kansas and the bill self era you can't

because it's it's not a skilled thing. I will, I will definitely admit that like three point shooting, especially at the college level, can be a much luckier thing not And I it's weird to even argue this point because I do think in this game, like eight to nine of the threes that West Virginia made or not even like a plus looks. They were like totally average

to not great looks, and they just kept splashing three after three. There's only a couple that I thought Kansas defense actually broke down in any significant fashion to allow looks. I don't know. I think, yes, there definitely is a fluky factor to three point defense. They were in the top seventy five and three point defense if you will, going out percentage of threes allowed

yesterday. So I guess they just, according to Twitter, completely forgot how to guard for two hours when the plane touchdown in Morgantown, right like this was a Statistically, this was one of the better three point defenses in the CELF era entering yesterday's game. Yeah, I mean it is fluky, but three point defense does exist. I mean, you can't just let guys shoot

all the time. But I don't watch KHO close out on shooters and put their arms up and think, well, they're much worse than the other three point shooting defenses I've seen. I think it's yeah, I think that they're as a Kansas effect. We've now seen five games in Big Twelve play and somebody has had a career high day. Battle had more points in this game

than he had in the previous three combined. The one dude I can't think of his name, uh mate, the guy that went three for three on threes had made one in all a big twelve play like there's a fluky element to it. But whatever. I didn't watch that defense and think, wow, these guys couldn't guard, couldn't guard anything. I watched that game and thought, wow, the other team made some shots. That's gonna happen Sometimes

I don't know, I honestly do agree. We also have to talk about the refs because to the twelfth degree, Nick, how's about that foul call that took away what was essentially a guaranteed game tying three on one that Kansas would have gotten in the final twenty seconds. Yeah, it was so stupid. The fellon Nomarco Jackson dove ripped the ball out of his hands. In the refs, if you do anything, if you would make any attempt on

the ball, the refs are going to call a foul on you. I guess they at least they weren't the monitor for seven and a half minutes. You know what really I did not see a single soul with a blue check mark the Jeff effing Goodman's of the world. Bitch about that call. But when it happens at Alan Fieldhouse, every blue check mark with ESPN credentials in their name, you would think that someone is being robbed at gunpoint at the fog. It is unbelievable how this narrative, it doesn't fit the narrative.

Shocking media, and if it doesn't fit their narrative, they don't talk about it. That's shocking truth like that, But it's unbelievable, like that's a horrible foul. West Virginia gets the second best whistle in the Big twelve. The difference can palm analyzes home whistle versus away whistle. We've seen it many times up there in the past. Just a disgrace that they called that.

And yeah, would have been a tie game with about fifteen seconds left, and then they probably would have given up a three at the logo that k you would have bitched about not being well guarded enough, So I don't know if it even would have mattered. But yeah, the refs are total and complete every time in this conference. You know that there's always gonna be something that they screw up. You just and as Bill self said, Bill self

even said it was a point that they didn't get a good whistle. It just comes down to you cannot be on a spot where you need to count on a good whistle with twenty seconds left in a two point game against a team that's won a third as many games as you have. I guess that's the that's the main stick. That's all I got. Nick, let's see have something to say about the refs. Tell me about Hunter Dickinson. Stupid. Yeah, Hunter Dickinson is a great player, at least offensively. He

scored nineteen points to five rebounds and five assists in thirty six minutes. He is not a good defender, though. He lacks rebounds and effort effort rebounding At times. Teams know this and take advantage. Be honest, Ryan, as R Atlanta says, you know he's kind of lazy, and he is he is. How many times we could go rule the tape if we were in in like say we're a high school football team and we're in the way, we're in the room watching film on a Thursday afternoon, we'd go roll

the tape of Hunter Dickinson. When a guy is driving into the lane, Hunter Dickens's supposed to come up and play help defense, and he gives the guy a wide open path to the lane, doesn't even contest, and is three feet away from the basket when the guy's up going for the layup. It's he is time and time again. I don't know if it's situational awareness. I don't know if it's just laziness. He is often in the wrong

position and kind of what I love about kJ Adams. kJ Adams seems to contest a lot more step into the lane and cause cause the shooter to stop and make a different decision. It seems like Hunter Dickinson, if it's not

his man is, it's not his problem. And we've seen that time and time again where teams drive, you know, Dewan Harrison, Romarco Jackson gets cut off by a point guard driving around to the basket and instead of stepping in and playing defense and making the contest on the shot, Hunter Dickinson lets them go by and is there for the rebound I guess. But outside of

that, it seems like a very lazy effort from him. I mean than Glennon has that this isn't two K with the fatigue sliders turned all the way down, though, Like he's seven to two sixty and he plays thirty some minutes a game. Yesterday he played thirty six, Like are we he? I don't know if it's fair to just expect this koliath of a man to give one hundred percent steam every time, And because if he did, I

don't think he means kJ Adams can. kJ Adams is there. It seems like kJ Adams speeds down the floor and back and it's back to make plays. Defensively, Hunter Dickinson doesn't even move as much as kJ Adams. Many of his shots are just a little dink around and lay it over somebody. kJ Adams is the one driving into the paint to dunk the ball. kJ Adams is also a much better athlete than Hunter Dickinson, though, and I

think they should both be good athletes. They're college athletes. I mean, Hunter Dickinson I think gets down the floor pretty good for a guy of his size. I don't know. That's that's my that's my it's he's not the best defender, and we've seen that. This is now landon you and I talked about it, how we listed off the three game. When Hunter Dickinson isn't the best center on the floor, Kansas has lost twice. Yesterday he was the best center on the floor, but whenever he's held I mean,

you look at his games. He's been held to five rebounds, four rebounds and eight and his three in KU's three loss, which is unacceptable when you're seven foot two. I mean, I also see the rebounding thing. I think in yesterday's game is in order for a hundred Dickinson to rebound, the other team has to miss every so often, and they didn't, so he didn't have very many opportunities for it. But I'm not I'm not blaming the guy that scored that had nineteen to five, five and two. That's a

flaw though. It's like we talk, the whole point of the show in this segment is to analyze where this team is going wrong. And if you're gonna sit there and say, well, I think it's just the other team shooting the ball, well, I think you've got to take a little bit deeper analysis on why this team has lost to UCF in West Virginia. Do you think it's more than that so much defensively. I know the threes are an anomaly. This is a Western team who's not good to shooting threes.

But we've seen time and time again where hundred Dickinson off of switches has been a defensive liability at times, and I think that I think it's started to be a little bit more apparent. And like you said, it's hard to nitpick. This guy scores about twenty points a game. But when you're talking about a roster who is four or five deep, and you're aligning on contributions so much from these top four guys, his defense can be can be scrutinized

even if he is making large offensive contributions. I agree. I agree with what you're saying that his defense is not a strong suit. I just don't think we can't expect the guy to be. You know, this isn't create a player where you can make the guy all the way great at everything. Like he's on ten out of ten on offense and just about any way that you can possibly be for a center, he's not going. I don't think

it's realistic to expect him. A guy with that size and part of what makes him so good on offense, is his size to also be this cage a Adams level athlete that can give it a have an unstoppable mode or I don't know, Landa, What are your thoughts on all this? Like, I think Nick's right, his defense isn't his strong suit. I also don't know if there is a player out there that would be Hunter Dickinson's physique and be as good as he is on offense that is also Mark Garrett in a

seven to two body on defense. Uh, I don't know. I mean, I think we have seen those kind of players though. I mean obviously, like quickness is not gonna be a seven to two guys strength, Like that's just you know, that's not how a human body works. He's gonna be a little slower. I understand that. I don't think he's lazy. I don't think he's lazy. I think I think I think he is a little bit lazy. Yeah, I think he olays quite a bit. Uh. And I don't think that's out of like he can't get there. I

think he's not getting there on my choice. I think he is reaching on like by choice on on drives. I think he's letting guys go a little bit. Obviously, he's a very good rebounder. I do think his effort at rebounding well at times is spectacular. I mean, he's had some insane effort rebounds, don't get me wrong, but he very much kind of picks and chooses when he's gonna do that. I would criticize him also for his boxing out, but I feel like all Bill Self teams are weirdly not good

at boxing out, So that's not really a Hunter Dickinson specific thing. I guess that's just like a Kansas thing. More so, that's the biggest reason that if you want one reason they lost that you can blame on the Jayhawks. It's not the three point defense. It's the rebounding. We saw it down the stretch out There were a couple moments where Dickinson did have moments where it looked like with his angle he should be able to get the board,

especially down the stretch. Those last two three minutes were brutal. Johnny Furfey's inexperience showed. Kevin mccullor didn't exactly throw a strike across Johnny Furfey's plate byce, but he kind of did say, yeah, we didn't box out well enough in those final two minutes, and there were only a couple guys he

could really be talking about there. So it was a weird game. Everything that could have gone wrong did and you're these happened sometimes, and I mean, yeah, I just think Hunter Dickinson, while not perfect, I think Hunter Dickinson, if I had to write down a list of the top ten problems with this Jayhawks team, I don't think anything involving his name would be on my top ten list. I can't think of one. I understand that. I think that's pretty shockingly what I'm about to say. I think that's

pretty fair. We did already talk I think he's the main problem. We did already talk about it. Just to give you the numbers one more time, teams came into this game only shooting thirty three percent from three point range against Kansas in conference play. The Oklahoma State game did a lot of did a lot of pulling down. That number doesn't really encapsulate how it feels like teams shoot against Kansas, because in this game, twelve for twenty one were

the Mountaineers, which is over fifty percent. They started nine for eleven in the first half. This is the worst three point shooting team in the Big Twelve, they entered at thirty percent. Why does this happen? Go ahead, and we'll just go ahead and play the music. At this point, you have you had Kirkreas our white guy of the game every time with three for four with some ridiculous makes all in the first half. Raykwon Battle was

their best player. Twenty eight percent three point shooter made three of them. And you have a cook, a cook, a nice he's not white, but you did have a guy with the same name as for his first name and his last name that made his first three of conference play. And then twenty seven percent three point shooter Kobe Johnson made one. Who's the guy that was three for three? Uh, that guy is actually a good shooter. He's like a forty percent shooter on the season, I think, but he'd

only made one in four Big twelve games. Uh, let's see here, Seth Wilson. You know why Landon, You know why it says he's thirty percent because he went three for three yesterday and he's now twenty for fifty this year. It pulled up his numbers by a lot. Yeah, that did so just the just the stupid tire fire of a game. He went from thirty six to forty in one game, averaging four points a game, three for three from three now and then the white the white guy that we knew

was gonna be annoying. I can't think of his name. The guy was Slazynski, Quinn Slazynski, but he knew he was gonna make one. Yeah, yeah, so idiotic. Whatever. Had to get that off my chest. Gotta love the Jayhawks Kansas is white Guy one of their many actually this year. Weirdly, Johnny Furfey. He opened the game three for three from

behind the arc and proceeded to make just one more shot all game. He finished with thirteen points back to back games with seven rebounds for him, three assists on four to twelve from the floor, and three of nine from three. That's six straight make or misses from Furfey from behind the arc. The offense is definitely better with him in the starting lineup. I think that's pretty

undeniable. But I do think the next step for him, if he wants to become an even better offensive player, I think would be to look to score on his own, create his own shots. Not that I think he was inherently the problem. I think he just missed some mostly pretty good looks. But I do think if he can learn to create his own shot, maybe drive a little more, I think that's the next step to take him, to start him. Nick Timberlake also played well, had twelve points,

two for five from three. Continues to play better. I'm pulling him in here, though. Talk about Timberlake and Furfey combined for twenty what what did you say? Furfrey scored again? He scored twelve, thirteen, thirteen, So they combined for twenty five points, which is fantastic, right, we would thought they But however, how many of those points were in the first half? All of timber Lakes were all of them. It wasn't all I think we had. I think Forfey had one basket. I thought Furfey made

two rows in the second half. Yeah, so twenty one and Furfey in Stillwater had fifteen in the first half and zero in the second half. And then kind of the same thing here. Furfey, as brilliant as he was early in the game, he killed them late. He missed six straight threes. As you said, landon the offensive rebounding, which is he's pretty good at for somebody that's his experience level that primarily plays the guard. It was

brutal as boxing out positions. Timberlake didn't do anything in the second half and just kept chucking up shots. Nick, this has to be a good thing, right, We're seeing these guys combined for twenty five points they played. I mean, there's a reason Kansas is able to get it in the mid eighties. It's because they were getting bench contribution. But man like you, how do you look at this game. Do you look at this game as a net positive for these two? I think you probably have to, but

there's also negative. I would say a net positive. I mean, I think it has to be for Nick Timberlake. We haven't gotten anything out of this season. It's like the meme of the guy pointing with a stick and say do something. He finally did something at least, And again, I

want to reiterate that with sports. Sports are so fickle in the fact that if k You would have won this game ninety two to ninety one, we would have been saying, oh Ku was willed to the game, will to win the game because of these two bench players in their production good they lose by a couple of points, and it's like, well, we still have a question, Like, no, they had a good game. These guys are right exactly in the progress that we want them to be at, at

least from the standpoint of where they've been. This is a positive trend for KU's pinch. When you're talking about guys four deep starting lineup, four great starters, and then the rest is a question mark. Now you've got maybe fifth man and then a sixth man maybe emerging here in conference play. I think it's a good sign. Albeit even despite the loss. You know, that's just the third time all year that Nick Timberlake has made two threes in

a game. Really wow, opener Yale and West Virginia. Yeah, Nicks, Right, that's a fair point. Like Furfey didn't help them a time down the stretch. You would love to see him make one or two additional shots, but definitely these two they played well, and the experience, like people want Johnny Furfey to play ahead of l Marco Jackson, doesn't matter which one of them plays, You're gonna have to have one of them in there

late and they're gonna have some freshman moments. We would we were this close to talking about el Marco Jackson making maybe the biggest play of the season for Kansas with that steal that also could have been a ten second call, that also could have been a travel refs ass but were this close. That does tell you how fickle the whole thing is. I guess good good Win. I don't think we need to see anywhere with Marco Jackson though, El Marco.

There are his stats down here. Two points in a rebound in eight minutes. Yeah, just just I mean, I feel like two points one rebound ten minutes ish is pretty much Elmarco Jackson every day. Jamary McTell played four seconds. I don't remember those four seconds? Was it at the very end? It must have been. I don't remember it either. And then Parker Brown may as well have stayed in the team hotel, which is going to happen on nights where Hunter Dickinson has uh has thirty six minutes. The

bench was better. There's a reason they scored in the mid eighties, and it's because they got fourteen bench points instead of the usual two. But yeah, I think the one Harris is probably the Dwan Harris and kJ Adams are the two that didn't play as well. As they had been, and maybe that's who you blame for. I don't know. I've had a hard time blaming anyone in Kansas for this loss. I do think it just kind of happens, Lamb. And you did point out that all of their starters had

at least three assists. That's cool. They continue to be great moving the ball. Yeah, they had a lot of assists, and like you said earlier, I think they had like seven turnovers or something like that. It was under ten. So yeah, that's been much better the ball. That's your long term focus here. The turnovers have been better. They've only turned

the ball over twenty total times in the last three games combined. And look how much better their offense was seventy six against Oklahoma, ninety against Oklahoma State, and now eighty five against West Virginia. They went out and they had almost five baskets per turnover in this game. And that's gonna lead to a lot of success. And another reason that you're gonna lead to a lot of success, Nick, is whenever you have a first team All American leading you

and scoring almost every single night, tell me about Kevin mccullor. Yeah, McClure was fantastic again. Again, these losses are not his fault. He had that three at the end of the game, should have been called a three, but the refs again, foot was on the line. I don't think the foot. I don't think that. I don't think his foot was on the line. I think that it was. It looked like it because his blue is shue was blue and it was right up against the blue line.

I think it was behind it. I don't think you had the visit to the video evidence to overturn it. But that's just my gripe, So screw that. But Kevin mccullure, he was fantastic again, no fault. Twenty four points five is his four rebounds ten for fourteen overall two for four from three, best player in the conference. I think that if Zach Heaty wouldn't leave freaking college, he would be a consideration for the Naysmith Player of

the Year. But do you think that Kevin McCuller has a better chance right now of winning Big Twelve Player of the Year than Hunter Dickinson expectation wise, Yes, I think he is the best player in the Big Twelve. Like we've said all year, kind of consistently Hunter Dickinson's their most important and Kevin

McCuller is their best. I think that's probably right. I just wonder who the coaches would vote for it. Also, right now we can't act like either one of them would be a locked because Kansas is on pace to finish in like fourth place. But McCuller fantastic. It's so fun. No, he's got to just be so frustrated seeing these brilliant efforts where he shoots ten

for fourteen from the floor. Go to waste up there, because I mean, man, he's had at least three assists in every game for more than a month, like just twenty, averaging twenty point six boards and five assists per game while shooting great percentages making half his shots. Phenomenal effort for Kevin McCuller, as is the usual. I agree with landon on the three. I thought live it was clearly a two, but Twitter was irate about it, which makes me think maybe I just didn't see the right angle. Uh

yeah, that was that was not a go. The angle they showed on TV looked like a two to me on that That's what I thought. But but but everybody, like everyone on Twitter kept going about it, and now hearing Nick thought, maybe there is more to it. I don't like, maybe there was the blue shoes an interesting thought. Uh, because yeah, it was not a It was not a great thirty seconds from the for the k You gets all the calls fans after after that? Uh okay, uh,

Landon, tell me about Dewant Harris. I kind of feel like this should be a talking point. Uh because because I you score eighty four or eighty five, it's hard to blame your point guard. But and the stats were fine, but there just seemed to be something not there. Yeah, he had four points, five assists, and five steals, which is a pretty good stat line in thirty six minutes. Uh. We we know what

Harris is at this point. But I agree, And I don't know if it's just lack of scoring or what exactly it is, but it does feel like there is something that is lacking. Nick. I know you think that Dewan Harris does limit this team. But again, in a night where the Jayhawks score eighty five, can you really blame the guy? Uh No, I don't think so. Like it's not we weren't scratching our heads in this game, saying Casey scored fifty seven points and No One Harris had four points.

I think you're right in that looks you know, five steals is fantastic. Five assists about on par with where he's at, maybe a little bit higher than that. But I don't know. I just I'm glad Dewan Harris took that three in the first half. I want him to shoot it more. He's shown that he has a nice stroke and can get it in.

But I just don't know what to say about him at this point. He's just kind of there, and it's it's always been the intangibles for Dewan Harris, the thing that doesn't show up on the stat sheet that come piles over the game. But I just it seems like he's kind of leveled off since since his rise, since he's gotten the KU. I don't know if you

can agree with that, but I don't know. The National Championship seemed to be a high point for him, and since then, it just seems like he's just done the job a lot of times well, sometimes head scratchingly, and you just wish maybe he had that next part of his game that would that he would score a little bit more and it would help Kansas alleviate that pressure to have Johnny Furphy and Nick Timberlake score as much as they did in

this game to get to eighty five points. But I don't know. I mean, Harris made a layup within the first like five minutes of the game. It was real early. And then he made the basket late in the first half when Nick Timberlake threw an insane pass that went up and over a guy that was way taller. So he didn't score in the second half. That's the thing I noticed right there. You have a point guard that played

the entire second half and didn't score. That's a problem. Dwan Harris does a lot of things well, but but yeah, it's it's the thing I've watched. I watched players like Rob Dillingham light up the scoreboard at Kentucky and Tyler Kohlik plays point at Marquette, and I think I cannot believe that these people play the same position as Dewan Harris, just a very different way to

play basketball. Yeah, it is weird, Like, yeah, because on a night where you scored eighty five, like offense is not exactly your your first concern and loss, but yet like you're saying right, and he just doesn't. I don't know, he just doesn't. He's not a threat, he doesn't really make an impact. And I don't know what to do with that guy. I mean, he does pass the ball extremely well, obviously, like he's a very good passer. He sets up kJ and Hunter for

layups and dunks like all game long. That's great. There's a reason he averages the amount of assists that he does. But yeah, I don't disagree with Nick either. I think Nick his point that I do feel like Dewan Harris is kind of leveled off this season. Where's where's the twenty three points against Kentucky Dewan Harris? I want to see more of that guy. Where is that guy? I'm gonna look at Dewan Harris's stats here. So on

the season now, Dewan Harris is averaging seven points and seven assists. His field goal percentage is still the worst of the starter by a pretty decent clip. Dewan Harris has not scored more than twelve points since the Kentucky game. He's only scored more than ten points twice since the Kentucky game. That's a issue we can talk about. Dewan Harris being great, and he's great at most things, and I think he's a fine scorer when he attempts to.

But they need to want Harris to score more. I don't know if this is the game to really go off about this, because they did score eighty five. The offense wasn't the problem, but like man Dwan Harris, like not scoring in the second half, that feels that just feels like a problem. It may not be the reason they lost, but you look at it and you say the point guard didn't score in the second half and they only lost by a couple possessions, Like what could have been different if he had?

I don't know that's the way I look at it. Kansas is now

five and seven all time in Morgantown. We saw Bill get a winning record in Stillwater, and here they were with a chance to get back to five hundred and Morgantown and el Actually, like they kept saying on the broadcast that West Virginia is getting their first win over Kansas since and then like a few years ago, which didn't feel possible because we're so used to them losing up there so much, and they made it sound like this never happens but they

also called kJ Adams kJ Allen a few times. They did nothing, nothing but the best from an ESPN plus production. I was stunned if they messed that up. Are we being naive for believing that Kansas would win into the water? I saw that on the schedule that these games were back to back, and you just knew I got something stupid's happening in one of those games and been right all the time. I hate back to back road games. Okay, let's wrap up with kJ Adams, who was quietly really good.

He is a dunk machine who can pass really well. We saw him get the offense going in the second half when it came out cold with a couple of big dunks. He finished with eleven points, four rebounds, and three assists. I thought kJ should have got the ball more. My first thought without he scored more than I thought. I didn't know he got to eleven. My first thought after the game was, I don't feel like he touched it enough. What was it? What did he shoot? He could have

taken more than like six shots. Uh, yeah, I should have put that in there. Let me look four for six, yeah, four for six. If if McCuller and Mcculler's fine. I guess if Furfy's gonna shoot twelve times, kj's gotta shoot more than six. Yeah, especially on a night where he's dunking everything. Yes, Like I thought that more of an effort should have been made. And also West Virginia was really swarming Hunter Dickinson, like you, I'm sure kJ that the opportunities to get kJ open more

against a depleted defense. I think that this may have been a game to try that Hunter goes out by the perimeter a little more and kJ opens up inside. That's that that was disappointing. I thought kJ could have done more, but he still was productive in the in the in the time he actually got the ball. Yeah, And I do think that's another another weird thing that I think Kansas really actually only has two players that can actually create anything

for themselves offensively, and that's Hunter Dickinson and Kevin McCuller. KIJ is a really good offensive weapon, but he is not going to create his own shot very often. He can't a little bit, but he just doesn't very much. Dwan Harris has proven that he refuses to do that very much. And Johnny Furfey, well, I think very strongly will be able to do that one day. Is not gonna be that guy right now that can create his own bucket. So that's kind of a weird dynamic to only have two guys

on the entire team that can actually do that at all. Well, and it's like, yeah, it's it's like they feel like they're so close. They have everything on paper that says they should be dynamite. I still think they might be. It's just maybe a couple of weird losses. They have two elite National Player of the Year candidates. They have a point guard that's great at getting them the ball. They have an athletic zion junior who dunks

everything. All you gotta do is pass in the basketball within a couple of feet of the rim. They have a bench that has a couple of guys that have been great three point shooters in their careers, and a young freshman that looks like he's gonna play in the NBA one day. You have so much on this roster that screams the pieces are there, they just haven't perfectly fit together. I don't know. I think it's a pretty good assessment of it. Yeah, and it's a little bit eighteen nineteen ish to an extent,

not nearly what that was. But the eighteen nineteen team had a bunch of guys before they started losing pieces, maybe just didn't live up to expectations. That team also, yeah, lost Yudokaa injury. I mean, I think that's eighteen nine. Is not that I think eighteen nineteen is the best comp to this team, but it's before they started losing pieces. Yeah,

but even then, they've already lost Arterio Morris to personal reasons. And then, like el Marco Jackson is nicely fitting that Quentin Grimes role of just doesn't really fit the system. They're asking, are you kidding me? You're You're right on the comp But I would trade el Marco Jackson for Quentin Grimes right now. Oh so sure, Grimes at least would make some threesometimes, Grimes

average nine points a game like that would be really welcomed right now. And yeah, that team also the last time Kansas was preseason ranked one, which was kind of a disappointment in the grand scheme of things. And Hunter Dickinson is kind of the better version of Ditrich Lawson. Yeah, yeah, honestly, there's some comparisons there. Now, this team's still very healthy. They have a lot more experience at winning the big games than that one did.

I have a feeling you are going to see them catch fire and have a really good stretch. You don't want to see them peak too early, right if they were just crap. They're just crushing everybody right now. It may lead to more questions because we've seen those Kansas teams peak early and then get like the twenty one team was great around this time and then it started to go downhill after that. So I don't I'm not losing hope at all about this team. I think that they have all the pieces. I know,

the schedule's brutal. I don't care what the record is. I don't care where they finish in the standings. They have the pieces to make a march run. They just can't bury themselves and they can't screw themselves out of getting ahih see because they keep losing to the crappy teams in this league. Who and by the way, also crappy teams in this league is very different than

a crappy team in most leagues. Yeah, West Virginia is still not that bad in comparison to a lot of teams at the bottom of other conferences. West Virginia would be a top half of the ACC team. And I'm dead serious. I think you're one hundred percent right, which is insane, Like Duke loss to Pitt. And I know this sounds kind of stupid because Pitt crushed West Virginia. But Pitt is not better than West Virginia or they won't

be at the end of the year. Pitt might be, but most of the teams, like, are you gonna let me straight in the face and tell me like wake Forest is better than West Virginia, or like, hey, wake Forest beat Louisville by a lot yesterday, sir, well that's louis I could probably find a bunch of dudes in Johnson County that could give Louisville a run. Yeah, just don't ask Detroit Mercy. Final stats in this game fifty three percent from the floor. That should be good enough to win

every time. Second. That also happening against UCF, where they shot better than fifty percent from the floor and lost thirty percent from three and seventy eight percent of the line. They continue to be a good free throw shooting team minus the front ends of one on ones that they miss a couple of every time they lose a stinker on the road. That's a that's a spill self

staple there. Final takeaways. I am frustrated and annoyed about it. I don't think it poses a lot of long term head scratchers, and I think had they find a way to win that UCF game, we're just looking at this thinking, huh, that stinks, but that won't happen again. Yeah, that's pretty much my sentiment exactly. A very strange loss that you would hundred percent want back, but I don't think actually has that many implications moving

forward. Yep, I agree, very good loss, but hopefully you move forward and stop dropping loss dropping games too, Teams that you should or are favored by by ten points, like was I the only one? Or like that that just felt more annoying. You guys were more annoyed watching that in the second half than most games. Right, There's just something about it that just got on your nerves. Yeah. I mean I don't get annoyed by Kansas basketball games anymore, but yes, if I did, yes, this

would be a very annoying one to watch. I sense that from Nick over text too. It was like you're you're normally very levelheaded, but which is

like, this is getting on my nerves because this shouldn't be happening. Yeah, so yeah, flush it, and we'll see how they respond against a better than this Cincinnati team Big twelve games, which was full of carnage and had futility records all over the place, beginning with a game that's very near and dear to my heart, and that is Texas seventy five, number nine, Baylor got seventy three. Baylor and Kansas going through some similar stuff right

now. Baylor looked like they had just found a way to maybe rescue themselves when Jalen Bridges had a game tying three with five seconds left. But then it was Tyree's Hunter who went the length of the court and made a buzzer beating layup as time expired to get the Long Horns a home win. It was a very entertaining game, really good offensive first half, defense tightened up

in the second half, and it came down to the very end. However, there is one stain on this game, and it is one absolute piece of ass, one complete total of a human being that should not get to celebrate this win. But oh boy, did he and that is certified bitch boy. I don't know if I can say that, but you know what, We're just gonna go for it. Rodney Terry, who said after UCF necessarily reflect the co hosts, well, Rodney Terry, Harry Potter glasses and

all said UCF shouldn't be jumping up and down after that. Yeah, you see the Harry Potter glasses on Rodney Terry, I said, Terry Potter. Oh, Terry Potter, I like Harry Rodney Terry Potter who is here who said UCF is classless. We expect to win. We don't jump up and down because of games we win. Well, then guess what he did, bouncing up and down like he got the star power up on Mario Bros. Whenever the his game winning layup happened. What an absolute Nope, can't say

that that in the notes. It's not a nice thing, but it's what Rodney Terry is. It's a mean thing, but he is. Screw him and screw his long horns and screw horns up. Hunter scored twenty one points. Yeah, I definitely concur with that last part. Hunter scored twenty one to Baylor's Dakobe Walter scored twenty two. What do we make of the Bears? My wife just peeked in the room and looked at me, like, are you okay? Don't don't, don't have a heart attack in here,

like like it's apparently being quite loud talking about certified. Well, yeah, that I do think Rodney Terry is not not a very good coach and a weird guy. But I think the Bears he'll be fire. He'll be fine year. So yeah, probably the end of this year. Yeah, at this point, I think Baylor is really flawed. Baylor got twenty two from star freshman Jakobe Walters. See, it's not that hard to get a McDonald's all American to play with. Oh, I just wanted to make an el

Marco Jackson joke. But yeah, Baylor is pretty flawed compared to what they normally are. But everybody in this conference is so true. Who's how many how many losses? Is the team that wins this league gonna have? But we're gonna have like a four way tie at eleven and seven. It won't be that bad, but I could I could definitely see at this point. Last show, I said it'd be fourteen and four. That wins the league.

I'm definitely leaning more toward thirteen and five. Yeah, I think Kansas will get it going, and then I think you will see either Baylor or Houston be right there with him until the end. I think one of those teams will fall a bit and go like eleven and seven, if not ten and eight, and I think that the other one will be challenging Kansas to the very last game. I don't know. Texas Tech has the easiest schedule, but we're not acting like we trust them right or talk about yeah case

stay trck there too. As of right now, though, this team gonna play Kansas next. Lost another heartbreaker number fifteen Oklahoma sixty nine, Cincinnati sixty five. The Sooner score sixty nine points. Land and tell me about the Porter Mosers group? Who is? They bounced back nicely from their crappy week last week. Yeah, a nice road win for the Sooners. They held Cincinnati to thirty eight percent from the floor in just twenty seven percent from three,

But that doesn't matter because three point defense doesn't exist. Who here is excited to watch them go for double digit or for them to double those percentage On Monday in Allen Fieldhouse in front of a sad Travis Kelcey. Maybe I don't know. I don't think you. We don't know. Yeah, sixteen points from Javan mc holm. Somebody on Twitter said that these are the games that Oklahoma lost in Porter Moser's first two years. I was still not a

huge fan of Moser, but I do think that is true. He does have this team at least playing better than he has had them in his past couple seasons. I don't think they have the bigs to be able to win enough big twelve games to be a player at the end of the year. I think that's gonna do them in. We saw that at Allen field House. Sam godwins your starting power forward, good luck in this league. Won against Cincinnati, is gonna win against the other ones? I don't think so.

Number twenty four Iowa State seventy three, Number nineteen TCU seventy two, Nick, you called this game correctly, so you earned the right to tell me about it. Yeah, the final score is misleading because I was stay led by eighteen and a half time into by twelve with the final Teamy time out. They led by four at the very end before Hail Mary three went down, making the final a one point score, but Iowa State dominated the game, forcing TCU in an amazing twenty seven turnovers, which is the most

in a Big twelve game. Twenty points from Tshawn Gilbert. It was getting an extended role with taman Lipsei out, however, Jamie Dixon, of you, Jamie Dixon, Yeah, this is the TCU game. Every time we start to drink the kool aid a little bit, he goes out and coaches them to a twenty seven turnover performance against the Cyclones. I didn't watch this game very much, but every time I looked at the TV, tc was yeating the ball into the third row of the student section. Like it just

it just made no sense what they were doing. I mean, how many possessions did they have? They might have literally been doing that like one out of every three. Yeah, it was a pretty up tempoed game, but still as up tempo is it gonna be with all these turnovers. The horn Frogs really disappointing week for them. They lost two games by a combined three points I think, or maybe they lost in cincinn eight by four, so

they'd be five. I don't know. Iowa State controlled them though in this game, and the Cyclones look like they are that every year we say, are they what they always are? Iowa State is exactly who they always are, which is they are a good team. They are really good at home, and they're feisty as it gets on the road. They're not gonna win a lot of road games. But TJ. Alzoberger doesn't have the most talented teams. But wow, can that man coach? It doesn't matter who you

give him on his roster. They will find ways to play anybody within a few possessions. Yeah, no, I aloud stated I think is exactly that same team, which I feel like there's a lot of that in the big twelve of the season, Like more teams than not are exactly this. Yeah, there's like everybody but Kansas, Houston and maybe Baylor is this. Yeah, except for Oloma Stiff and Western Oklahoma State are worse. Hey, there's a lot of teams that can coach. So those three teams they would not

have two conference losses. Am I right? Yeah, They've played the three worst teams on the road in the conference and they have a losing record. Number twenty five Texas Tech eighty five, Number twenty BYU seventy eight. This is your This is one thing we got right where we talked about BYU not used to these sort of atmospheres because they had an eighteen point or a sixteen

point lead at the half and blew it. Lubbock looked like it was on fire down the stretch thirty two points from Pop Isaacs who is still playing. And just like Terren Shannon and yay I like sports, am I right? Texas Tech is tight for first place. They only play Kansas and Houston ones. Are they a threat to win this conference? I don't think so. Yeah, if do you? No? They got hammered by Houston the other

night. Like they feel like those Oklahoma State teams that finished like ten and eight or nine and nine, but go oz and six against the best four teams and are right there on the bubble at the end of the year. Yeah, that's probably true. They're solid that they're a little better than I thought. I think they'd be probably a they are better than I thought half of the league team, but they are better than we thought, especially with a new coach, which it feels like they have one a new guy every

other year. Lo Land, the the dial stops on you to read about this. This will be fun number five Houston fifty seven, Central Florida forty two, forty two, And that is basketball, folks, and not I want. I bet Houston UCF have scored more in a football game before knowing those two schools, oh for sure. Yeah, Houston, they're pretty boring, but they are pretty good. They only scored fifty seven points on thirty five percent shooting, which is gross. Sixteen of those points came from LJ.

Cryer. We don't even talk about that anymore. This is definitely more about the team they played than who they are specifically. The final score even gives UCF more credit than they deserve. The Knights who had I don't know what. I don't know what I was trying to write there. I think I was trying to say how many points they had at a certain mark, because that final score of forty two makes it sound a little better than it was. Let me go research that. Okay, Well, they shut sixteen

percent from the floor. That's seven forty four, the worst shooting percentage in any Big twelve game ever. Ever, a few more UCS stats here, three for twenty three from two from Inside the Yark that's thirteen percent. They started zero of nineteen from two. They couldn't make the layup. Took them twenty eight minutes to make a two point basket. That's the second half for those keeping count. So the stat that I was trying to get in there

and I just forgot to reasearch it. You see, have had twenty points with nine minutes left in the game. So they Houston, Houston just told Hughston just gave up and let him score a little bit. They scored more points in the final nine minutes than they did in the first thirty one. Twenty points in thirty one minutes. I've never seen that impossible. Seven for forty four. Boy guys. I can't wait until Kansas gets to play them. I mean, that should be a win, right, Gross, it

wasn't being told it wasn't which one was worse? You see a f for West Virginia, like, which one will we remember as worse? I think we'll probably think it is worse. West Virginia has at least a team that's been good. Central Florida feels gross. I don't know. West Virginia might be worse than Central Florida, though, I don't know if they are right now, I don't think they will be at the end of the year. And know that is not my bias showing and pleading to for them to look

better. Kansas State seventy, Oklahoma State sixty six. Nick, you talk, I sin storm or don't even have it on the board. I don't know. If I have it on the board, I'll figure it out. Yeah, you feel the tang gets The Cowboys led for most of the second half, but they blew the lead for a good in the final minute as Kansas State got twenty three points from Arthur Koloma I lead into a four and one start. Are the Cats gonna be a contender? I'm drinking as much

Tang as you got. I think they're good. I think at least I think Tang is good. I think he's very good. K State will not finish top two in the league, but I think they are better. And I am a huge drum Tang fan. I I see. I think Texas

Tech's better than k State. I think Cincinnati's better than K State. I think Oklahoma's better than K State. I maybe I I oh, yeah, yeah, let me see K State's schedule here coming up, because that's gonna you know, they beat Baylor at home, but it took Baylor just completely farting that game away. Kansas State's next five games, how many wins are in here? Wow? This is brutal. Okay, Actually, I'm gonna read their next eight games. Okay, their next eight games. You're gonna

tell me how many wins are here? At Iowa State at Houston, versus Oklahoma at Oklahoma State, versus Kansas at by U, versus TCU at Texas how many winnings. I think they're lucky to get to three four. Yeah, if they go four and four in that stretch, then that will put them with five games left at eight and five, and that will be a very impressive basketball team in this conference. I don't think there's I don't think there's a chance they win four, No chance, but we have different opinions

in cases. I think they get there. Big twelve standings at the top are said fighting tanks, Kansas State in Texas Tech. They are four and one, tied for third, Baylor, KU, Iowa State, Oklahoma, and Houston are all three and two, and in a conglomerate of eight ranked teams, TCU, b y U, Cincinnati UCF, Texas and West Virginia are all for two and three, and then in a full two games by themselves in the last are the walking corpse of Mike Pointon and his Oklahoma State

Cowboys. They had a chance to win, they fell apart ohero and five in conference play. Other games, well Land, and you had and lead us off because I'm gonna go see if anything happened today that I need to add to this. Fair enough, It was another great outing for the fighting Zach Eaties of Purdue and Zach Eidies specifically is he had his third straight thirty point game in number two purdues eighty four to seventy defeat of the Cyclones.

That they're not the Cyclones, they're the Hawkeyes other boring eyes. Oh, you would just make so many people up there, man. The biggest jowns are in the league this year. Number eleven Wisconsin hung ninety one on Indiana in a Friday night win. And then there's Illinois who played Terren Shannon and they gave him a standing ovation, which is pretty gross. He scored sixteen. Yeah, they were like, we don't know if he's gonna play or not. And he was in the game two minutes and twenty six seconds.

I think it was into the into the night. You better be right, Illinois, You better be right, Nick to Duke dah Yeah. In then funny news number seven, Duke loss at home to a garbage Pittsburgh team despite shooting twelve more free throws in eighty to seventy six. Well, is nobody talking about how louds you have a job? John Shire is than with the preseason top two team. Well, but he's got the brotherhood and the brotherhood is the brotherhood, and if you believe in the brotherhood, then you can

be part of the brotherhood. And the brotherhood sounds like a cult. We all at the stay, Yeah it's Duke. Have you seen like just read their their motto. That's probably all you need to find out how cold it is. Uh. One thing we all said at the very start was that John Shire is in over his head. And that's not to say that he won't eventually get there, because wow, if he can't with the resources that

he's been given, I don't know how he's ever going to succeed. But he's done a pretty lousy job through a year and a half as the Duke coach. This team's very talented. Yes, this team's very talented, and yes it was awesome. Pitt didn't just win that game, they flaunted it. A couple of their guys got on the scorers table and were yelling at the student section. Good. I hope they told him to suck a d just barely. Number one. Yukon survived at Villanova sixty six to sixty five

behind twenty five points from Tristan Newton. The Huskies are seventeen to two on the season and lead the Big East. Are they the best team in the country. No, their name is not Perdue. Really, team that has national championship experience, team slash coach that's never made the Final four. I'll take the former every time. Yes, Yukon's number one. I like they have the best longest the long this game of the day. It took place in New Jersey. It's just like I'm driving this thing. I'm tired of

your nonsense. Get out of my way. Number Naty Creighton took down Seaton Hall in ninety seven to ninety four in triple overtime. Ryan Talkbrinner had twenty eight points. It took Locke Prinner as what you wrote is that that I right. That just feels like that's just not correct. I wonder if it auto corrected because there's no squiggly line under It took Seaton Hall three overtime to score just three more points in West Virginia. That's so disappointing. Creighton's pretty

good. They're gonna be the underseated team because of their record that no one wants to play. I think that Creighton is the are that the second best team in the Big East? Is it Ukon then Creighton? Somebody else? I know that's pretty good. Marquette maybe maybe yeah, Marquette's okay, Marquette should be better than they are. Everybody should be better than they are. Maybe everybody else is just more balanced. I don't know. Number twelve Arizona

almost brought home the title of the most embarrassing loss of the day. They trailed a terrible UCLA team by nineteen points at home before rallying back and beating the Bruins seventy seven to seventy one. That is something that Kansas that matches Kansas's record most points at home are flipped around to overcome to whatever. You know what I'm trying to say. It's a lot of points to come back and win. Palay Larson scored twenty two points for the Wildcats, who seem

pretty good but they're not really being tested much. The refs made things all about themselves by teeing up Mick Cronin in a one position game with a couple of minutes left. Never seen the rest do that. In the SEC number thirteen, Auburn destroyed mega fraud Chris Beard and Mega fraud number twenty two Ole Miss, who's ranked for reasons we cannot explain fifty nine. All sixteen of

the Tigers wins this year have come by double digits. Also in number eight, Kentucky hung one oh five on Auga and our sixth Tennessee impressively blew out Alabama by twenty Are these teams final four threats? Nick? Uh? I think Auburn is. I definitely think Auburn is a good team. They only have two losses, so I Kentucky it's John Klipari, so Tennessee's Rick Barnes. So yeah, I can't say with confidence. Just their pure quality, yeah, I think they. I think their talent level suggests. Yes,

it's also the the SEC is Bunns. Yeah, it's not good to have those three buns. Auburn is gonna get tested this week. They have at Mississippi State, who we just saw takedown was a Tennessee I think the other day, and then they have at Alabama, which is a brutal rivalry game. I may have gotten those backwards, but I know those are their next two games. They do go at Mega Fraud Chris Beard coming up, and then they have Kentucky coming in for a few weeks, so they do have

that. They're gonna Calvin Johnson who's Megatron, and you have Chris Bard, who's Mega Fraud. I like it, Mega Fraud who is also a really bad human being but still got a job because yay. I think all three of them are Final Four threats. Yeah, Tennessee won't get there because their coach is allergic to winning many tournament games, and Kentucky does something stupid every

other year. But yeah, I think they're all really good. I think you could argue they're probably three of the best ten teams in the country. Then there's Louisville, who lost by twenty five. They are not one of the best teams in the country. Louisville is to Wake Forest I'm pretty sure officially this is the first time wake Forest has ever beat any team by twenty five points. I have to check the record books on that, but there's no way they've done that. They are one in six in acc play.

The win was on the road at Miami. Is there an oof drop? I need to I don't have time to look that up now. Is it this? Yeah, that's my Louisville drop. Whenever you lose to wake Forest. At least they're not Detroit Mercy, who gets many because they've lost twenty times in twenty games. This year. They lost one hundred and five to sixty four at home to Youngstown State, not Youngtown, Young's Town State holds man. Hey, yeah, actual Penguins could beat Detroit Mercy Hospital. I

think, right? Are they just a bunch of nurses and doctors playing in their spare time. What's their nickname, the Titans? I think yeah, they are the k You played them in the tournament in the year they made it to the championship, I think, yeah. The fifteen seed. I'm assuming they're not going to be a fifteen seed this year. Rank teams loosens the last show number three, Our old buddy Bill lost to West Virginia. That's not what that's what it actually said. No, that's not always it's

not necessarily Ryan. How about you read it? Okay, Well, you know that's a Daniel Cunningham quote, right, Yeah, Actually it does sound that's the Daniel. That's the Daniel Cunningham. That is something Daniel would say. Yeah, it definitely is, and it's accurate in this case. No, Daniel's probably matured a little bit unlike me. Fair enough, a team who doesn't have a mature coach. Number seven, dude, john Shire Socks.

They lost the pit. Number nine Baylor lost to Rodney Terry gleefully skipping around like a little girl that just saw her presence from Santa Claus for the first time a few days after he was told another team, you don't do that. Number ten Memphis, well, they lost again, shocking to Tulane. Number nineteen TCU they lost again, Dio State. This whole list is

just Big twelve teams. Number twenty b YU lost again to Texas Tech number twenty two, a team that was a guy that was formally I just wanted to say, a guy that was formerly a Big twelve Yeah, yeah, person also formally arrestless, a big twelve person. Gotta love those big twelve persons. There's there's not enough of them because Rodney Terry is because won't be

one for long. All Chris Beard had to do is not hit his wife, and we wouldn't have to do with Rodney Terry Potter's glasses and his stupid race. I like it. Yeah, I wish that liking Harry Potter, a bunch of what do they call death theaters or whatever would like take him away and take him to Rodney Terry's friends with coach km uh. They they definitely would would share Starbucks lattes together, wouldn't they. They're two peas in a pod, those two boobs, except for one's a great coach and one

is not. That's true, ask Rock Shock Blog. This is always is a children scream sound. This is this is the Knick's favorite part of the show. In case you're you're new to this show, which you're not, because nobody knew clicks on these anymore. Oh, I haven't had any questions about what color pants and Rodney Terry's were in this season, and we might now now that Rodney Terry Potter is a complete ass wipe at k voguey please, Uh, what unexpected Big twelve dark Horse has staying power? Oh,

that's that's a nick question. You're that realignment person. Uh. I think it's just which which team that we didn't think much of was just gonna be good this year. Oh, it's not staying power from like a a Big twelve realignment thing. Uh, the answer is Texas Tech. Wow, Tampa just did an unbelievable thing Land And I'm sorry you're way behind, but that was beautiful. Switched. You're about to see Tampa do something that nobody that's

ever worn a Chief's jersey has ever done. For Patrick Mahomes, he's catching a ball. Yeah, it's not dropping a ball, and it's making an incredible catch. Albeit, the answer is Texas Tech and maybe KSE State. You have a moderate amount of faith in case state at this point, even if it's unfounded. So I'll say them at J two Wills, do you have a higher vertical leap than Hunter Dickinson? Yeah? Maybe maybe. What do you think his vertical actually is two foot? I'm sure he has a

good vertical. I don't know. I don't know. He's also seven to so it like even if he had. It's like, how the smaller you are the same amount of weight you gain. The more it looks like it like his vertical could be Andrew Wiggins esque and it wouldn't be as a parent as it is for Andrew Wiggins because he's not, say seven to two. Why can't Mike Evans as it's white out? What did you say, why can't mahomes have Mike Evans? Right? Yeah, just so you just saw

the play, just an insane catch a few minutes ago. But yeah, at Cooper Reeves ten. Is this team going to lose to a fourteen seed in March? We're doing great on the Rational Express today. Uh No, but they might lose with six seed? Call your shot? What seed is Kansas one through? They're one or two at Preston's skirt sick. I guess I get that this is viewed as a bad loss right now, But how bad do we think this loss will be at the end of the year.

West Virginia was six and eleven interne in the game, but that's with battle Kirkkrese at eight cock a cock out most of the season. Also, Jesse Edwards coming back soon. Hey, that's exactly what I said earlier, great minds think alike, what do you guys think it might? It might honestly be a lot like the TCU loss in twenty twenty when or twenty twenty two when they got not They didn't get blown out in this game. But it's like one of those head scratchers is like, how do you lose this game?

And I don't know. I think it might be a turning point. Maybe I believe that Nick will be correct, and I believe that I believe that what will happen is Kansas will have a better than expected February because their January was worse than expected most of the time. It's how it works when Bill Selp is your coach. What say you landon? Probably yah, I don't think this loss will be the rea Like if Kansas does struggle late in the season, it will not be because of this loss. Like this loss

will not really affect them later in the year. Yes, that's completely correct. At k tweets and News with the best question we've ever gotten, what would it be like to not be insanely emotionally invested in a bunch of college kids and then not let it control your weekend when it yes, Yeah, Landon's done a pretty much job. And who was the most emotionally invested of the three of us at one point? Yeah, that is also true, land pretty sweet. Landon prayed for Bill self to call the right plays for

Udoka as a bouquet at one point. And now they lose to West Virginia. You're like, eh, okay next, Yeah, the losses are more interesting than the wins. Uh, they definitely are more interesting than the wins. Yeah. At show me Hawk with two questions here hearing some rumors at Big Twelve commissioner Brett Yormark could expand the conference game schedule from eighteen to twenty, with the potential of two extra Big Twelve games and a sixteen team conference.

How does that affect KU's chances of winning the Big Twelve in future years? It helps them. The more games that they play, the more you'll see the best team separate. Yeah. It does also create more unbalanced though, And so if there's another really good team with unbound slate, that will

be harder because you'll have less chance to directly combat and unbalanced slate. Yeah, and the unbalanced schedule sucks, and Kansas is always going to have a more hard, unbalanced schedule than other teams because they're going to draw more premier matchups, like they're probably getting multiple games against the Houston's and the Baylors, whereas we talked about Texas Tech not as much. I agree, Nick, do you want a twenty game schedule? It feels like that's the thing the

big leagues are doing. The Big Ten and the ACC already do it or at PAC twelve, I think though, Yeah, I mean I don't need to see Kansas play Yale in right, Yeah, you give him k C every season. So yeah, as long as you're replacing those and we don't lose you know, the Indiana non conference games to get another Kansas UCF return game, I'm that's that's true. Another one here, how warm is Brandon Schneider's seat as the coach of the KU women's team. They are currently nine

and nine, are probably gonna miss the tournament. Yeah, that's been a big step back the KU women's team. They played pretty well at k State the other day, didn't win, but they played them pretty close. But the women's team being nine to nine after the success they've had is pretty surprising. Despite the win over Baylor, a few days ago. Yeah, I think it's pretty warm. He's been there a long time too, so like eventually several years at Dick Underscore Taser. Now, Wayne Kerry, you give

me credit, but it wasn't me that said it. It says Ryan was shockingly impressive pulling Fantasy Island and the plane to plane out of thin air last show. That wasn't me, that was you, land and you were the one that knew Fantasy Island. The guy's name is Tattoo, which is why Nick refused to utter Narry a syllable on the subjects. So, yes, Landon. I know you're not on Twitter, but I will DM for the request. Mister Wayne Kerr your Venmo account and you will get He says ten

dollars slash three percent of a bag of groceries. I wish that was three percent of a bag of grocery. Wayne, you are the man, He also says Wayne. Yes, Wayne says, this guy Rocco owes me twenty six units and I'm done chasing him. You guys know where I can get a pair of those concrete boots Furfey has been wearing on Defense. Also, you guys know Ozzie's referred to us as seppos as in septic tank, septic tanks yanks. Not very nice, Wayne, You are one of one.

Landon is our resident Aussie on this show. You guys have even more in common than you think. I had no idea that was true, that you even taught the resident Australian something. Those concrete boots Furfy has been wearing on defense, Yeah, those are those are called cinder blocks, according to most of my Twitter accounts. Disappointing. He'll get there. He's a young guy. A couple more here, as Nick is like, no, slow down,

please, I like you so much at Cooper Reeves. Then, if you had to place one Chiefs player on the KU basketball roster, let's start with Tony to get him off the team forget. However, however, however, however, you can't say, he says. You can't just say Parker Brown to create the best team because you also have to swap a Jayhawks player onto the Chiefs roster, so you want to keep it balanced. I mean, I feel like Hunter Dickinson out wide out would be pretty freaking nice.

Gimme Kevin mccullar as a wide out. But then you're making k you really bad Uh, and give me. I don't know Chris Jones as a center, no one will have to do with that. There's a chance Patrick Mahomes is the best basketball player on the Chiefs. He is, so that makes it hard. I don't know, Like I'm trying to think, Yeah, there's gotta be like someone who plays safety or corner, like like Trent McDuffie's got to be a good two guard, right. Uh, he would probably

have more skill than a lot of guys. Or we could just do like James Winchester for Jamari mccow and no one's gonna notice either way. That's good. Just keep it. They're both pretty good. Let's just keep it the way it is. I know it's not the fun answer, but but that's I'd like to see Hunter Dickinson play wide out. It could not be worse than what Mahomes is throwing to and then he'd like you think hundred. Dickinson

would get NFL crowds going like he gets uh college crowded. Gosh, if Hunter Dickinson was an NFL player, he would be hated by thirty one fan bases. Hunter Dickinson would be an elite NFL player and people would be like, he's so soft, Nick, we wouldn't have to defend there at there you go. All the reason are you just get screwy with it? You make Hunter Dickinson play left tackle where he just reaches his arms out and no one can get by him. He called for a How would that be different

than the current state of the offensive line? Sir at Cope fraud, Why does self refuse to use his bench? The bench wasn't bad yesterday, and we just decided to play nothing but the starters who look gassed until ten minutes were gone in the second half. Good point, Timberlake didn't check in for a long time in the second half, even whenever you had guys like Harris that were giving you nothing. I also like el Marco Jackson in relief of

Harris as the point guard. Yeah, I did too. We're never getting that. And last question here from at Elliott ruson h first off horns down, cue the controversy. Oh it's Rodney Terry. He's got tears in his eyes and he's here at my door for some reason. He's saying, yeah, you don't do that, you don't do that. That's classic. He calls us classless. He's not wrong, goods correct, Yes, I have no class, but I also I don't need to have class because I have

a microphone, not a basketball job. And Elliott says, secondly, are we going to start getting worried that this team is slightly inconsistent? Yes, already there well West Virginias, Well, West Virginia constantly had five steph curries out there. You should still win the game, Yes, you should. The thing that I've seen talked about is Kansas clearly is playing up to their

competition. They get up for the top ten teams, They've controlled top ten opponents throughout games, and then they've lost two of the worst three conference opponents out there. They're playing up to their competition like that's that's what they kind of have always done, but this year more than ever. Yeah, And the reverse really is that they're playing down to their competition. And this is These are the kind of things that I was a little bit worried about coming

into conference play. When you flirt around with Eastern Illinois and UMKC is well, day twelve teams are gonna be able to make you pay for that kind of outing, whereas Eastern Illinois isn't going to be able to and can't West Virginia. Even though they're not having a good season. They have plenty of talent out there that if you don't put them away, they can beat you.

And that's what happened. Anything to add to any ASCARCBS, No, I just wanted to add that I was just spending this time calculating how much of my life of spending during ASCARCB segments about thirty shows a season, seven seasons, twenty minutes per session, it's about forty two hundred minutes total. Forty two hundred minutes total divided by sixty is about seventy hours doing this segment.

Seventy hours doing the segment is about three full days of my life talking about Rodney Terry's pants, whether we think KU is overrated, and whether we think that I like women with tattoos or women who are white in very and burying vanilla. That that's what I spent three days in my life doing. Hey, I gave you a break from those questions today, sir. Even though I thought that we could really enjoy talking about women with tattoos after what

our eyes had to look at all day on Saturday with Kansas. But I guess I'll save it for the next show. Nick's like, yay, I don't have to look at that those ugly a bombinations. Okay, okay, fine, Just because you asked Landing on a scale of one to ten, how much you like tattoos? Like seven? Nick, like three? Segment always delivers. That's why we can't ever get rid of it. Cincinnati at number three, Kansas, Well, oh you want to, I have it.

We can do it. Joel Embiid's gonna win the MVP again because he's average thirty points per game. Meanwhile, is Kelly Ubrey got hit by another car. Josh Jackson, Hey, I have that, And Josh Jackson was y didn't now Josh Jackson's on rape charges right now, isn't he? Oh? Really, you didn't know that. That's too bad. You didn't know that. That was a pretty recent Let's see here. This article is from October of twenty twenty three. He was accused of orchestrating a robbery, domestic

assault, and rape sweet the bag three. His attorney says, he emphatically denies it. Thirty three charges, thirty different things. Yeah, well, they emphatically deny all the charges, is what his attorney said. But something that we cannot emphatically deny is that Kansas is going to plummet in the rankings. We don't have those new numbers yet because we're recording on Sunday for Yeah,

let's see where they're at. Actually they are. They were eighteen on Ken Palm whenever I saw that, So they fell five or six spots. They are now fourteen in the net. They actually didn't go down as much as I thought they would. Fair They are still to the number three Big twelve. No, they're not BYU by the way, continuing their tradition. They they have lost three of their last five games, and they have dropped one spot after each one. They were at two, they went to three,

now to four, and now they're number five. That's weird. They're pretty average. They are three and three in Quad one and nine to zero in Quad four. Clearly a top five teen. I'll do it. Yeah, that's that's all. It takes Cincinnati at probably number like six. Kansas. Monday, January twenty second, at eight o'clock at night, Jayhawk's looking to bounce back after a disappointing loss with the bear Cats. They are thirteen

and five overall, two and three in league play. Their wins are by U and TCU, and they lost all of which were close to Baylor, OU and Texas six eleven, two and forty pounds. Power forward Victor Lockin, who is from Russia, is Cincinnati's best player. He averages fourteen points and eight rebounds, which both lead the team, though he's been held to a total twenty three points in his last three games. So here comes thirty

one. In the front court, Ruyan. The centers of the front court seven foot whatever was Ben Dago who adds eight and eight and he plays more while fouling less than a lot of seven footers we've seen. They also play a six to eight wing Schimas Lucotius, who is your bonafid white guy of the Game candidate. And he's got to be Lithuanian, Right, that's a Lithuanian name. I thought it was Estonia, but you might be right. Yeah, maybe the guy, maybe the guy from yesterday in the West Virginia

game was Estonia. Sorry, yeah, moving on in the recap or something, the Bearcats backcourt and sees utilization from point guards Day Day Thomas and Gisel James. Oh, that's your most names in the conference and wings John Newman, not Malik Newman, and former Kentucky guard C. J. Frederick, who is a team's best three point shooter at forty four. The result is a very good passing team that leads in up tempo offense. Surely that's not

going to translate to anything against this Kansas team. C J. Frederick went, oh and oh for five. I think when Kansas went to Roup a couple of years ago. Guess what happens when he comes to the fog. Guys, this is not gonna be good. Cincinnati's metrics are all over the place. They are very good rebounding the ball, top ten rebounding team in the country. They have a lot of size, ton of size. They play fast, and they take care of the ball well, which is kind

of weird for a team that's got a lot of size. And they're excellent at not fouling, which is also unusual for a team with a lot of size. The weaknesses they're a mediocre three point shooting team. Free throw shooting is very poor. They forced turnovers at a very low rate, which is probably the best news for Kansas right now, and they commit an above average amount themselves. Their numbers read like a team that has a very strong front

cord and a very mediocre backcourt. Tansas actually has a losing record against Cincinnati. They're three to four. They've only played them once since nineteen sixty seven. All four of KU's losses to the Bearcats occurred between nineteen forty nine and nineteen sixty four, and in that one game within the last fifty years, Kansas beat Cincinnati by seven in nineteen ninety six in an on cone game.

So, yeah, been a long time since these two teams have played, and it was a long time before even their last time that they played, Nick, What are you thinking here as KU hosts Cincinnati for the first time in a very long time. Well, I'd probably give Taylor Swift better odds to show up to the game then Cincinnati winning this game. I hope neither happened. But I'm gonna say, Taylor Swift, are you Are you a dad or a Chad Nick? Chad? Taylor Swift doesn't even have tattoos and

she's mid. But that's why she's mad, sir, because she doesn't have tattoos. That's not true, she just not tried. Anyways, Kansas is gonna win this game. Let me get give him eighty eighty to sixty seven. Who cares Landon. I think Taylor Swift is attractive. I don't think that she's the most attractive person on earth, but she's she's an attractive woman, Right's I mean, like like she's she's all right celebrity. She's not

my type either. It's because she doesn't have arm sleeve tats. She did, you wouldn't be able to keep Nick away from Allen Field House on Monday night. I do not think they're gonna be there. It's one thing to put Taylor Swift in a suite, it's another thing to put on section two,

row four on the to Cameron Indoor Stadium. That's true. He is President of the United States President. So if the President of the United States can sit with Secret Service in the front row at Cameron in door Grant and that'll read, is the size of high school gymnasium a lot easier to secure than it's sixteen thousand seed? Yeah, but I'm I think the President's a

little bit more important to protect than Taylor Swift. People disagree with that is aunch a bunch of white, mentally ill eighteen year olds showing up and trying to tackle Taylor Swift and give her hug or something. Wow, that's that's so great. I love when Nick, like Nick will bite his tongue so much on this show, and then you if you get the box open, there's so much good stuff in there, like that was that was a thing

of beauty? Dude? Am I am? I wrong? Though? Like, I'm not trying to stereotype the fan base because there's a lot of normal white girls. Probably my my future wife probably is a Taylor Swift fan. Every girl on planet Earth in America is pretty much Taylor Swift fan. Oh yeah. There are some that dedicate their entire lives to carrying what Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift where and do and where they live. So I call him Swift, isn't it. Yeah? I don't think you're wrong. I I

Taylor Swift. Was. I say that also as we're three guys. We're three guys who are mid twenty three to twenty six years old, and we're doing a podcast a bunch of a bunch of college age guys dribbling a ball around on a court. So I mean, yes, we are. We're the ones with actual illness. But there you go. See you get the box open and it's good every time. Uh Lanta, And I think wins seventy five sixty seven for the record. Yeah, that feels your question.

That feels about right. I was gonna ask you to pick the game. I think Kansas wins. Yeah, something like seventy six to sixty six, or it won't be a game that. Every year Kansas has a few games that they happened, They win by ten, and then we completely forget everything that happened in it. And this time next year, when I don't know if I believe Nick, when the three of us are still doing the show and they're going up to Cincinnati and we're gonna be like last year they won

by eight, We're gonna be like they did. I don't remember any thing about that game. That's gonna be one of these games. Yeah, that's a pretty good take. Definitely has Lions. The Lions have chained a piece of paper to a seventy three year old fan, saying that she was a loyal member. She was nine years old the last time the Lions won something an NFL champions Hey, they need to put her in that. She needs to be in that meme that says, I'm not letting Grandma out of the

cage so the Lions win another championship. That's that's what somebody did with Kadarius Tony. Uh until he catches another pass after that that play in New England, and he hasn't played a snap since because he has a severe case of sucky ass itis, which they are calling on the injury report a hip injury and that's why he has him played and no one needs it. Severe case of he's basically already been cut already. Yeah, severe case of bad hip

hip injury means he isn't playing. That's the abbreviation. Yeah, I'm glad, and I'm glad he's not. Because the Chiefs would have this game today, would be in Kansas City if Kadarius Tony didn't play in the first one. That's undeniably the case. Big twelve games. Texas at the ringing DRAWG and a shift. So this is just what they are right now. Texas at number fifteen. Oklahoma cos I say Texas wins, I don't think. I don't think Oklahoma's very good. I hope that the fans give Rodney Terry

Texas. No. I don't think they are either. But I think they're more talented. They have so many they have so much of them, so many wins. Yeah, but I think they win, and I think they win, and O you, I don't think. Oh, he's very good. West Virginia at UCF. I will pick UCF by a lot. West Virginia is gonna score sixty points at most. I will pick UF to win. I'll take westerngin. I am, I am, I am more. If you told me right now, Cincinnati or West Virginia, one of them

wins, I would bet on Cincinnati. I am so one hundred percent confident West Virginia is gonna lay an absolute turd after that game yesterday. Yeah, I think you're probably right. Number five Houston at number twenty, b YU. The Cougars have been pretty Oh this is the Cougar Bowl, isn't it. B YU has been pretty good at home. It's a tough environment. I think that the the the I can't use the team names. Houston's luck on the road continues. Give me BYU, give me, give me the

Redcubs. I'm gonna go with the home Cougs. There you go. There, that's better than what Nick just wrote. But it is. It is a It is a good old fashioned that and I just made a comment about how buy you girls are attractive? Yeah, that's it. I will take that school for two reasons. Number nineteen TCU at Oklahoma State. I mean, eventually the Cowboys are gonna get somebody, but I don't see TCU losing three in a row. I think Oklahoma State's really bad, so give me

the horn Frogs. I say that the TC's lost a couple back, I'm gonna say TCU wins this game. Otherwise I would have picked Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State's canna be over six, and then Kansas State at number twenty four Iowa State. We're now in the process where some teams are getting buys I think each I think there's two teams that don't play a week game every and then that have that repeats itself seven times to balance out this long schedule.

So there's only five other big twelve games to pick. I will take Iowa State to roll Kansas State at home. I've let the clone. I would State wins other games. Number eight Kentucky at South Carolina, who actually has a better record than the Cats, has not been great to trust Kentucky on the road, but I'll do it here reluctantly. I won't. I'm picking the game talks. Hey, I have a drop for that. I'm too lazy to go find it, but glad to see Nick's back to his roots.

Number eleven, Wisconsin at hold on. Gonna need you guys to be patient for just a second. Let me pull this up. Tell me your pick. By the way, are you going with Wisconsin to win at? None other than I will take Minnesota home. I'll go with them Minnesota, I'll take there. I'll take whiskey. Speaking of so, that was an a RCV from Cam Lipple who said, would twenty Joe Biden's beat one Andy Reid in a basketball game? And boy, yea one Andy Reid would win

Landon. I don't know where he's at a bicycle Yeah, well, well, well hold on, I'm on and I'm on it. I think that the twenty Joe Biden's would win because, yeah, Joe Biden works out like I think they say he does. Joe would be standing under the basket saying, Joe over here, Joe ice cream, ice cream appear, and I think he'd barely score ten points. I think Andy Reid would be I don't think Andy Reid is a great athlete by any stretch. Landon really, uh

no, not really. I mean twenty pre pill against one person is pretty great. I mean it doesn't matter, and you have twenty sisters probably way to beat him. Andy Reid went to b YU, so it would be Joe Biden at b YU. Yeah, that'd be fun. Number thirteen Auburn takes the road and plays Alabama. Okay, Ken Palm, I'm gonna trust you on this one. You say Alabama's better than their record indicates, Fine, they beat Auburn. I agree. This is a Auburn's gonna lose a

game. They've been hot, but they're gonna lose to no governed by twenty Landon says f you, Ken Palm. And number fourteen fighting Terrence Shannon Junior is at Northwestern Northwestern because Carlink Illinois wins on the road with Shannon, I think they're the second best team in the Big Ten. I mean it depends on which school with abuse allegations you want to choose. Probably Northwestern. I'll take shoes up there. Yeah, basically all of the yeah people up there

apparently have nothing better to do than bad things because it's cold. As someone who used to live up there, it's true there's a lot to do, but it's a good thing you don't live there anymore because now you do have something to do twice a week, which is this podcast. We'll be back here later in the week to talk about Kansas and uh who's next? I never up in that? Is it Iowa? God? Is it at Iowa State? That's the kind of up there. And then they got Houston.

Get wait for them to lose at Iowa State and then lose to Baltimore. It's gonna be great. We can never Yeah, now that one, they're probably gonna get beat by the Bills. Anyways, we'll see and that sounds like fun. This is inside the Paint on a Rock Chalk blog. I'm unenthused. Uh no, not really. I mean twenty with hands that much. The grill that canarius Tony has the diamond plated grill. No, I don't like tattoos, so I can't like never, never mind, I'll give

you that one. I don't I never got the grill thing, like, I've never really gotten that. But you know, to each their own, I guess to each their own we'll see you later in the week. Behavior Auburn by twenty