ITP: Kansas claims third in Maui by downing Tennessee

A bounce back win for the Kansas Jayhawks who win in sunny, beautiful Maui and here in Kansas it's anything but as it's a snow day. It's like twenty degree windshill outside right now, So what else is? What else is one's supposed to do on a weekend? Holiday weekend? Mind you then talk about Kansas getting third plays in the Maui Invitational. I mean this has got to be like, this is what life is all about. Guys. When you guys were kids, the holiday traditions may have been fun, but what

better tradition than that? Like, look what you guys have really made it in life? Yeah, it's I like the cold. I like the snow a little bit. So yeah, we're putting up Christmas decorations at the appropriate time today, the weekend after Thanksgiving, the time that it should be done. It's beautiful and it's cute and it's cozy inside. So yeah, it's pretty nice weekend. Now, that's that's fake news. That's not correct.

The cold is ask and to take about how Christmas decorations might have to wait till less than thirty days before Christmas to go up is also as that's bad Nick, I would ask for your thoughts, but I know that you agree and that you share in the same ah that land and is spewing, So talk about it. Oh the weather, I don't really like the cold that much. You but you do think that Christmas decoration should not be up until right around now? Yeah? Yeah, it's go for it now. I'm

not the grinch anymore. So Ryan put those seventeen inflatable snowmen in twenty seven trees up. Hey, already done, got it all, got it all done, aren't you in October thirty? Do you need to do a ladder thing with you or is that all wrapped up? So? Yeah, Landon and I had we were exploring a possibility of putting holiday lights on my house because the one thing in my yard that's not illuminated right now are the very

tippy tops of the roof. Well I don't even know what are the ascents on the roof that the peaks, the peaks, Yes, the peaks. I want lights up there. My wife is a rehab nurse, and she put a nickson that she actually just peeked in the room and shook her head at me. So I am both talking loudly and my dreams are crushed. So we have a very dull roof peaks, but everything else is pretty lit

up. What about you guys, You guys ever have parents that put the roof peak lights or were you guys the scrooges and never had outdoor lights? Very very minimal to no outdoor lights. My dad is not about that. So you were a homeschool though it feels like something everybody would do as a family nick What about you? My parents roof was too steep to go up there and hang lights, so they'd hang it on the trees in front of the driveway. It's all set to tie myself to the chimney, have land

and climb the ladder, throw me the room. We could have figured this out and a whole like rue Goldberg machine just to get light a string of lights up on the peak. I looked at the I contacted the city and asked if I could rent like not a forklift, but you know like the machine that you stand in it and use a lever and it elevates you and you have to have you get to have a CDL and all that stuff for that. And I'm just like, man, all I want is roof are

lights on my roof. So I actually contacted a place the lights. The lights themselves, these permanent holiday lights are only a couple hundred dollars on Amazon. The supplies are just a couple hundred dollars. So I contacted a company that specializes in installing holiday lights. They said they could do it today. Guess how much this company says it will cost to install sixty five feet of permanent lights on my roof. I'm that'rand almost three grand? Yes, oh

my gosh. So I'm like Shirley Landon and I can do it cheaper than that. And my wife, yeah, she works in a rehabit unit. She says the most common injuries that they treat stem from results of people falling off ladders. So what if, in the spirit of the holidays, we were on a ladder while deep frying a turkey? Did you ever think, ooh, what could go wrong there? And I mean, come on, Landing and I just look at us. We clearly know what we're doing with

home maintenance stuff. We could get on a ladder. How hard can it, honestly be? I just played basketball for the first time in like six months, so obviously I'm in shape. Obviously, I'm peak male performance. There's no downside to this. There would be absolutely no chance of falling off the ladder, and that's me falling on land and falling in all the Christmas lights and everything shattering. Thing has saved us, but we both broke our

legs. Well. I mean, it's probably better than how KU's legs felt after playing three games in three days, because that looked very, very exhausting. The Jayhawks do bounce back in the Maui Invitational. They claim third place. They were playing like twelve hours after that Marquette game ended crack of dawn, and Maui they go out. They beat a top ten Tennessee team.

Very impressive. So we're gonna talk about that and one of the busiest other games segments of the season because of all the other tournaments that have taken place, all that leading up to what will be a very underwhelming game, I'm sure on Tuesday night, the Jayhawks returning home to play Eastern Illinois, and a quick look into Eastern Illinois stats left me going like this, because holy Molly, this is going to be a gross game to watch on Tuesday.

This is inside the paint on rock chalk blog, Happy late Thanksgiving. I'm Ryan Landrath. I am I forgot my name. I'm Scrooge McDuck. Now that's the wrong screen. Not you are not helping me with Christmas lights because my wife is a Scrooge. I am Santiago Whitebird. Just on that note, let's let's talk about this. I mean, do we lead off with that? Oh, my goodness, gracious number one Kansas and for the last time, sixty nine yay number seven Tennessee sixty. They will lose the number

one ranking, but they did avoid losing on back to back days. Would have been the first time in eighteen years that that would have happened. The Jayhawks using a strong second half to power past the volunteers and claim the third place trophy in the Maui Invitational. Things were tied at halftime, but Kansas held Tennessee to just twenty five second half points and finally pulled away down the stretch. They end the tournament on a high note. So my first question

to both of you is how important was this game? I mean in the grand scheme of the season. Ultimately, of course, not that important. Kansas will have several more opportunities to play. Really good teams, and even if you lost this game by one hundred, you know, you would have

plenty of time to figure it out and win. But I do think to see them lose the night before against a really good Marquette team, to come out and play another top ten team and show a really nice effort, like like you said, just twelve hours later or so, and play mostly really well, play really solid on defense, get some things working on the offensive end, and come out with a really high level of effort and beat a really good team and look pretty in control for the most part doing it.

I do think that's impressive. So I think, from like a ViBe's perspective and the energy around the team, I think a relatively important win. Yeah, I thought. I thought they looked pretty good. I think it was relatively important. But you know, even if they'd lost lots of time to figure it out, Nick, what do you think, Yeah, I think this is their first good quality win of the season. I do think that's significant, an instance of you know, looking at resumes down the end of

the season. But I mean Kansas always has the most impressive pressive resume when they beat they win the Big Twelve conference, So I don't think that's gonna be an issue, but yeah, definitely good to get that sour taste in your mouth after that. It's pretty tough beating you took against Marquette the night before. At times still wasn't pretty. You know, the turnovers are a

huge problems still for this team. But you're talking about two teams in Tennessee and Marquette who are quick and they do force a lot of deflections and turnovers, so it is to be expected that those numbers would be a little bit inflated. But overall, I think it was a great response. Hunter Dickinson looked pretty good as usual, and then supporting cast kJ Adams, if you make a free throw would be even better. But KG Adams looked really superb

as well. Just overall a good bounce back. You know, it was a quick turnaround. You know, they played late the night before and then one pm game our time the day after, So I mean, for as much as you can turn around, I think they did a pretty good job of executing. Yeah, it was a great win. I think that anybody who asks how good of a win this was for Kansas should be quickly told

it's a great win. One of the three or four best wins they're going to get all year against a team that's had their number in recent years.

We kind of talked about after the Marquette loss saying if that felt like a last year's team loss, Well, we saw what Tennessee did to last year's team when nobody could score, and this team was quite different because they got bench contribution, They got their third and fourth starters to contribute in ways that didn't happen, and the game that was right around this time last year to this exact same volunteers team, it felt like it's a great win on their

resume. It will only look better as the year goes along. Tennessee probably the preseason favorite to win the SEC, depending on what you want to do with Kentucky. So yes, I think it's a terrific win for Kansas. And for what you guys said, you're not taking that eight hour flight home on back to back els. I mean, I think winning two games in Maui was probably the most likely thing for Kansas heading into this, especially knowing

that there were four Top seven teams sitting out there for him. Glad they could score one that was a quality one on their resume. Because coming home with the only win you picked up all tournament being Shamanad definitely would have been underwhelming. Considering they entered as the number one team in the country. They're not the number one team, but whenever the polls come out on Monday, but they're still going to be a top five squad, and looking at their

upcoming schedule, I don't think they're going anywhere for a long time. I think they're going to have plenty of opportunities to reclaim that number one ranking at some point in the coming weeks. Let's lead off with Hunter Dickinson nick one of the best performances of the year by a guy that's had nothing but really really good performances. Yeah, seventeen points, twenty rebounds, thirty minutes,

another huge stat line. He was seven for thirteen from the floor and made another three, bringing him to eight for twelve on the season, had a double double before halftime, and had the most dominant presence of anybody in this game. Season averages through six games twenty two points, twelve rebounds, sixty seven percent from the floor. Landon. We said at the beginning of the year that we set the over under at twenty points and eleven rebounds right now.

I think it was twenty and nine right now. He's clearing that easily, and he's doing it against very very good competition. Through six games, maybe Zach Eedy. Hard to find anybody else in college basketball that's been better than Hunter Dickinson. Yeah, I mean, he already has two twenty rebound games this season. Both. I mean that's not like he picked them up against Manhattan and Shamanad. They were against Kentucky and Tennessee. Very impressive.

Last time that anyone in the kansakuniform has done that was Jeff White in twenty twelve, eleven years ago. So Dickinson did it twice in nine days. Very impressive. No, he's he's been quite excellent. I mean that's no shock. Obviously, we expected him to be very very good. The rebounding even better than I anticipated. He's just gobbling up boards. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, he's gobbling up those boards. Ye, another ton to analyze. I don't think about him, really. I mean, he's just been

very good, very influential player. Obviously, against Marquette we saw him limited a little bit, and that's obviously gonna be very important. But yeah, I think he has a very good chance to get over that line that we set in the props, so we'll see definitely something to watch. But he's

gonna have a heck of a year. And that's that. That you read kind of made it sound like with my I worded it kind of poorly made it sound like that Dickinson had is the first Jayhawk to have two twenty rebound games since with the Now he's the first player just to have twenty in any game since with the and he's already done it twice, Like this is not something that usually happens, and we have seen great rebounders at this school.

He's he's already in a company at Kansas despite only playing six games. And he really hasn't played a ton of minutes for his standards either. He averaged about thirty three minutes per game each of the last two years at Michigan, barely at twenty nine to this point as a Jayhawks. So I know the competition is gonna get better, but so will his stats as he plays more per forty hundred. Dickinson's per forty numbers twenty nine points and seventeen rebounds on

average. I mean, you really can't play better than that. He didn't shoot the ball video game stuff almost and then eight for twelve from three as if you know he's not making enough on the inside. The free throw shooting wasn't great in the last two games of this tournament. Would like to see that improved. That that's pretty much the only thing you can complain about. You look at KU's next few games. I think Eastern Illinois, you and

KC and Missouri are three of their next four games. I don't know how much he's gonna play, because those are games you expect to have in hand with ten minutes left. Not that that's really ever stopped Bill self before from still keeping guys in there for a long time, but certainly, if he gets a chance to play, he's just going to annihilate a lot of these helpless younger squads. He is excellent. Okay Landon, Let's talk about Dickinson's

the storyline for KA this year. He's been in all America. He's been the best that anybody could have hoped for. I think the second biggest storyline right now is just as bad as the Dickinson news is good, and that is Kansas hasn't hasn't yet found a guy that can grab that two guard spot and run with it. Though. I did think in this game against Tennessee, we saw a couple guys take a step forward and maybe prove that they deserve some more playing time. Yeah, I agree with you totally. I

was gonna say that. I think this might even be the biggest storyline of the season so far. The two guards were much better. Jamar McDowell was the one in the game down the stretch. He played at twenty seven minutes, pacing his competition with seven points and four rebounds, two seven from the floor, with every one but one of his shots being a three. Still pretty good outing, though. I think McDowell has continued to show himself a

very solid player. Al Marco Jack did not do anything. He made four free throws in thirteen minutes. Johnny Furfey had five first half points but didn't do too much after that in eleven minutes, and then Nick Timberlake had his head smashed into the floor by Tennessee player early on and he left after three minutes. I wanted did he return to the game. I know he was on the bench. Did he play He never played. He only played three

minutes that was it. He got off to a better start early on, and yeah, he actually did look a little better to open the game, so that was too bad to see him go out. But also, yeah, all the two guards for the most part did look at least a little bit better in this game, so that was nice to see. Nick. Do you think that it is Jamary McDowell that should be the guy to get a lot of the minutes going forward? Do you think Johnny Furfey should get

more run? Do you think Elmarco Jackson isn't the guy we thought? Or do you think that this wall just continued to coalesce and and we'll just kind of figure out where we are on a game by game basis. I'd lean

towards the coalescing and then going seeing where we go go from here. Still only a small sample size for these games, but I'm very impressed by Jamary McDowell more so, you know, I think it has to do with perceptions going into the season, because you know, guys like all Marco Jackson very hyped up, you know, by Bill self and the media and people just excited to see that that he's pretty good. And then obviously that hasn't panned

out so far that people expected. So I think that Jamari McDowell a guy people just expected to, you know, ride the bench probably. I mean, I know that depth is an issue, so I don't think any of these guys we expected to ride the bench completely. But Jamar McDowell, you know, wasn't expected to come in and to contribute as much as he has. I still think as the season progresses, I think Malco Jackson that's his

spot to earn, and I think that's gonna trend that way. I think defensively, Bill self probably trust him a little bit more, but yeah, I need to see the shooting come from him though. So here's the thing with Jackson. I don't know how you watch that game against Tennessee and don't think that Jamari McDowell has earned a spot in the starting lineup for now. He's been the better player for the last couple of games. He was the

better player in this tournament for Kansas. Elmarco Jackson is playing with four really really good players, and yet is still like if you can't get open looks to knock down and pile on up assist numbers, which Jackson is averaging four assists per game. That's been easily his biggest strength. If you can't find a way to post some decent scoring numbers with those guys around you, I'm not sure what it's gonna take. But they're both about the same size.

They're both very good free throw shooters early on, which is a big point of Jackson's game. He's a freshman and he's in the game. Really, the only reason he went in for McDowell at the end was because they wanted Bill self wanted a guy that's shooting now ninety four percent of the free throw line this year in there. But McDowell looks like the better rebounder. McDowell

looks like the better defender. I still think that, especially with these next few games, you're not losing against Eastern Illinois, maybe UKN, but not you and Case Missouri. Those teams you're the starting lineup, and who plays isn't going to impact the final result. So I think that you have to get el Marco Jackson as much playing time as you can to get him comfortable.

They are going to need him by mid January. McDowell's been a nice story, but he's shooting less than thirty percent from the floor this year. In order for this team to reach its ceiling, Jackson needs to play and get acclimated. I don't think this team is as good with a ceilinged out Jamari McDowell's starting in February than they are with ceilinged out Elmarco Jackson starting in February. I love what McDowell can bring. They talked about how he might

have red shirted if they still had Artio Morris here. Love what he brings, don't know if it'd be the same in a starting role. I think he feels like that smart plug off the bench guy. If they want to start him against Eastern Illinois, I think he's earned that and I'm fine with it. But I think the key to this team's long term success at the two guard is best reached by starting el Marco Jackson land, and I'm curious if you kind of agree with that. Twitter is very harsh on El Marco

Twitter once McDowell to start, they don't see it with Jackson yet. I think that, you know, we haven't seen him create his own shot, but the passing has been good, his defense hasn't been horrible. I still think he is the guy who needs to get the most run. I do think you are correct that the ceiling of el Marco Jackson is still theoretically higher

than Jamari McDowell for the moment. Obviously that can change over time. Very willing to hear people out on that potentially, but I don't know though. On the flip side of that, I would also argue McDowell has been playing well, and I think this would go for Timberlake an Furfey as well. I think you kind of need to play all of them as much as you

can in these next handful of games. Against Yukon obviously, like that's you know, that's a little bit of a different thing, but against a lot of these games where you're gonna be very heavily favored to win, you know, Eastern Illinois, UMKC, Miszoo, Yale, you know these these teams, you're gonna win these games by a lot theoretically. I would argue that if Timberlake looks like he might be, you know, your sixth man McDowell.

Excuse me, if McDowell looks like he might be your sixth man or even you know, you might give some real thought like do we start Jamar McDowell, I think you should probably give him quite a bit of run against Eastern Illinois. He he looks like, yes, he's not shooting the ball very efficiently. He's not shooting a high percentage at all, And that's why I would also argue you're not seeing like a maxed out version of him because

he's shooting pretty poorly right now, which is definitely a knocky. You know, he is not shooting very well. That's been one thing He's not done. But neither Jackson or really anybody, so I don't know. I do agree. I think I would still agree for the moment. I think Almarco Jackson's ceiling is higher than Jamar McDowell's, and since they're both so young and so new, like the potential is worth trying to get the most out of. I do think that that has to change at some point, though.

I don't think we can just sit here and say, well, Marco Jackson has to be the guy to get going for this team to be great. If we just continue to not see it, it's still very early. We still very well may see it later. But I would like to see mcdalll get a good amount of playing time in the next few games for sure. Yeah, and Furfey has earned that ten to fifteen minutes to play, and

Timberlake needs to get going too. Like, if you have a prayer of getting anything close to what you thought you were gonna get out of Timberlake this year, he better get fifteen to twenty minutes of run against these horrible teams, assuming that he's good and is healthy enough to play. I assume he was being evaluated for a concussion, but that that was almost a week ago

before by the time that this next game starts. So you gotta get these guys a good mix of minutes, and I think you have to start Jackson. I think McDowell and Timberlake need to be the first couple guys off the bench. And I think that that just finding two of those four to get close to what you thought they could be entering the season is the answer, because the other four are great. If you can have six guys that are all at or better than what you thought they were gonna be, well that's

a pretty good I'll take those odds against just about anybody. Because one of those guys that we are seeing a really good version of this year, kJ Adams was very good in most ways, scoring thirteen points, six of nine from the floor, added four rebounds, playing thirty four minutes. The downside was one for six at the free throw line, making him now two for fifteen at the line this year. He also got to a horrible start shooting

free throws last year and got better as it went along. Listen to on the radio after this game, Norm Roberts was talking about how he attributed a lot of kJ adams free throw struggles to being away from the team getting to Hawaii late. Just wasn't doing the same drills the last couple of weeks because of the family tragedy that took place, So I'm sure he'll wind back into

form. Overall, the fact that kJ Adams played any minutes in this tournament, I think is a testament to how strong he is and awesome that he was able to give Kansas really quality minutes against a really good team. That's my thoughts. At least, Nick, you mentioned the free throw shooting from kJ earlier jokingly, but he has been really bad. What do you make

of it? Yeah, I echo what Ryan says. I mean, it's hard to fall to a guy who just had to deal with that tragedy and then, like you said, free a big part of free throws is just practice and repetition, and if he wasn't able to practice with the team and get Repps early on in the week, totally understandable, and you know, just the pressure of the mental mental fatigue. Free throws aren't aren't as easy as people make them seem to be, especially for a four or five.

So I definitely think that that's going to improve like last season, and like Ryan said, so not a huge concern yet, but just you know, kind of interesting that I think if he made a few of those, a few more of those against Marquette, don't know if it would have changed the actual outcome of the game, but probably would have helped KU when they were trying to battle back, you know, from those you know, nine to ten point deficits miss this first eight last year started two for eleven and then

still got up to about sixty one percent, which is shooting seventy plus throughout the rest of the year. So I mean, he'll he'll get there. It's it is what it is at this point. But yeah, I think we'll give him a pass after the week that he had. Okay, let's talk about the defense. The defense was much better on Wednesday than it was against Marquette. They held a tired thank you Purdue for wearing out the balls. Boy that the balls play a brutal stretch here they got through Gonzaga Marquette

or no Gonzaga purduing Kansas. They only played three top eleven teams in three days, so they were probably very Yeah. Yeah, their schedule is just brutal. They held a tired Tennessee team to thirty one percent from the floor, twenty seven percent from three. They finished plus tin on the glass, really strong second half. I assume that this team is gonna go as far as his defense takes them. That's at least how Bill Seff likes to play.

Had to be encouraged after seeing Marquette pick a crop pick a part of Kansas defense, which was in large part because the offense turned it over so much, set up good opportunities. There wasn't necessarily that the half court defense against the Golden Eagles was bad, but good fit and performance by Kansas, right, Yeah, I definitely think so. I think they played well. I mean, especially when you do have a Santiago of Scovie nailing five threes

on you. Yeah, let's go ahead and do that. Then, you know what, let's just go ahead and talk about that, because Santiago Vescovy not only made five threes against Kansas again, but it was the second year in a row that he's made five threes in a game against Kansas. Despite not playing in the Big twelve Vscovy has somehow made at least one three point shot in four different games against Kansas in his career. He has made more

threes against Kansas than a lot of Big twelve players have. Oh yeah, yeah, a lot of twelve shooters haven't made as many threes against Kansas as he has. Yep, ten threes against Kansas in the last two games twelve in his career. And unless they play again on a on a weekend in March, gotta think they're for sure with him. I said that last year and I was quite wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, But not this

time, I hope, because I can't stand it anymore. Yeah, Nick, you introduced yourself as Santiago Wiper, so you know you take on on seeing the Uruguayans. Yeah, well, we were joking earlier. I I completely I thought he was I was texting that he was an Italian. I thought he was Italian, you know, the Santiago. He looks like somebody who just made, you know, a pizza in the Colosseum. I don't know what's the Italian stereotype. Italian stereotype. Oh gosh, they're all six.

She didn't say rowing down on a boat in the middle of a river and yeah, oh man, But yeah, the Italian thing that we know. I think I'm just getting confused with soccer. I think those are the only other two. Yeah, pretty much. But I googled Italian things to do, and Colise and Venice Streets Rivers is the top two things. So we pretty much nailed it. Yeah, but now hopefully this is hopefully this

is the final time Ku plays Santiagoviscovi. I if it's not, then we should all just give up, because gosh, Kevin mccullor Landon, let's talk about KU's probably second best player, right, I think so, though he is, there's a couple minor concerns, very minor. I think he did have fourteen points in thirty four minutes, six of thirteen from the floor. He gets seven more turnovers in this game, total of eighteen in a three game tournament, which is that's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. That's a

lot of turnovers. Three point right through six games is thirty two, which is pretty much exactly what he's been averaging over the last several seasons, which also we thought would at least go up some right, Like, are you actually concerned by those couple of things, Ryan, or is that about what you thought? Yeah? I thought that he would be about the same three point shooter, maybe a little improvement as he was the last couple of years. I didn't think he was going to take a huge jump. He's been

a lot better of a player. He's had two triple doubles already, and he's scoring at the rim. He's a lot more assertive than he was. He's clearly one of the fifteen or ten best players even in college basketball at this point. But the turnovers, I mean, geez, as a team here fifteen in the game, thirty three in the last two games they were both against top ten teams, and Tennessee and Marquette, two of the best teams in the country at forcing turnovers. This is what people do whenever they

play these guys. And I know with Kansas you expect to be perfect all the time. But other teams are trying to win two and they're good at playing defense, so I'm not real concerned about that. As the team plays

a little bit more together, I think they'll be okay. I am a little surprised that was McCuller with a bunch of the turnovers, but also remember against Marquette and Tennessee there were moments where everybody else wasn't doing much unless it was Dickinson, So I kind of you expect those numbers to get a little inflated whenever you also have a guy that's putting the team on his back and is giving you more positive possessions than negative ones. It's just unusual to see

a player of his caliber be pretty careless with the ball. Same with the one Harris. He had five points and eight assists and three turnovers in this game. It was a bounce back performance for him in a season high thirty nine minutes, most for any player in a game for KU this year. I feel like Harris and mccullor being careless with the ball for a week and MAUI if if, if that doesn't show you that the other team's just really good at doing it and that it was just a bad week. I don't

know what well like, I'm not too concerned. Yeah, I don't think it's it's too big a deal. And again, two very good teams that play really solid defense, So I don't think too bad Brown right in a Parker I'd rather go I should I look like Brown? He had? Yeah, ye had a line. Listen, guys, I scored two points all season in my middle school basket boys B team, and Parker Brown had the same stat line in this game. He had two points, two rebounds,

two steals, one block, and to too many minutes. I just stuttered, like the self. Uh, that's what Twitter says. At least, I don't know what you're referring to. Ryan Good. Okay, it was a good line. Yeah, I saw a couple of people you actually play nine. I think I saw a couple of people on Twitter, uh, talk about how this is exactly what they need from Parker Brown, and I

think they're right, it probably is. But oh my gosh, the chihuah Wah with the the World War two fighter pilots in the background meme is in my head from all the times I saw Mitch Lightfoot have two points and two rebounds and saw Twitter say that's exactly what they need. I don't understand how you can't watch Hun her Dickenson play basketball and then watch Parker Brown do anything and say that he's what they need. Like I'd rather have just about anybody

else at this point. But I guess it's fine. He's Parker Brown. He's the human embodiment of a white flag whenever he goes in the game. Whenever he goes in the game, I just hope to hell that they don't get that it's not a seven zero run before Hunter catches his breath enough to go back in the game. I don't actually think he's been that bad. I mean, obviously, you know, in comparison to Hunter Dickinson, that's like, you know, comparing the office to whatever sitcom I would make.

But like, I don't think he's been that bad. I think he's been serviceable. I thought in this game, you know, for nine minutes, like that's not too bad against anything special. But yeah, I mean old special. I think that's the biggest thing. You just shouldn't expect much of him, and then this this is not so bad. Parker Brown's headshot looks like me watching Parker Brown play basketball, he just looks very okay. I don't okay, if that's what you want. I don't know how he's still

in college considering he's older than Christian Brown. But Parker Brown six games is averaging four points and three rebounds in eleven minutes. A game that feels fine, like that's your backup center, isn't gonna be You're not having Hunter Dickinson quality players come off the bench. I get it, but I guess against top ten team it'll play. We just kind of have to throw that in there because it's what we do. Yeah, okay, let's talk about I'm

not gonna read what Nick road. I almost started to read that and then realize, Nope, can't do that one. The next ten games for the Jayhawks here they are Eastern Illinois, Yukon, UMKC, Missouri at Indiana, Yale, Wichita State, TCU at Central Florida, and Oklahoma. I'm gonna call my shot right now and say that's ten dubs. Anyone else. Yeah, I don't think they're losing minimum nine. Yeah, nine to one feels

like the floor Yukon is not easy at all. Indiana has been very underwhelming but that that arena is still going to be a tough one to play in, and then there's always potential for a stinker. Right. We saw TCU whip them at Allen Field House unexpectedly last year, and Oklahoma, who's also on this list, is undefeated and they almost beat them at home last year. But KU is now only going to leave Allen Field House or the Team

Mobile Center one time until January tenth. So unless you're predicted them to lose at home, which I don't care if they play the Nineties Bowls at Allen field House, I would think twice about picking them to lose at home. Yukon's gonna be tough, but it's gonna be alan Field House. So unless you think they lose at home, or unless you think Indiana gets them, I think you're picking ten wins. I think I would predict ten wins.

But I have watched enough kNs basketball to know that every once in a while TCU blows their doors off or something similar happens, so weird stuff goes down. But certainly they will be they should and will be favored in all these games, and if they do go nine and one, that would make them fourteen and two through sixteen games, which is ridiculous pretty good. Yes, that's top five. They will be in the top five for the next month and a half, So I guess that is why this Tennessee game was so

important. Now you have two wins over top fifteen teams. I don't care that Kentucky's seventeen or whatever. They are a top fifteen team in college basketball and everybody knows it. They have two really good wins, potential for a third really good one depending on what happens with Yukon here next week. And now they're going to coast for a little while. So I gotta think that if you're a Jayhawk fan, you have to feel pretty happy with where this

team is at. I know that we were all hoping for six and zero. I said, I thought they'd win them all, but in the grand scheme of things, five and one through the six games they've played is pretty good. I think you gotta be pretty happy with where they are at this

point. What about you, guys? Yeah, I think so. I mean, in the preseason show, I predicted that they would lose to Marquette in the preseason, or in that he did in the Male Invitational Obviously I did not pick that on the show, but I can still claim that I got it right. So yeah, five and one I think is pretty good. A few little kinks to work out, but I'm relatively confident that those will indeed be worked out. Yeah, I think people are underestimating the impact

that losing Arterier Morris had. I think that was just kind of brushed over. I mean, obviously people want to get away from that quickly because of the nature of the incident. But you lost, notably, probably a guy who's going to be one of the best point guards in the country this season. That's a huge loss because we're looking at the glaring issues with this team

and they would probably be filled with Arterio Morris being in this lineup. You know, the issues with the depth, the issues with the two guard spot. So I think that all things considered, KYU is exactly where they should be, and it's only to go out from here, especially when they figure that out with Nicholas Timberlake, er Elmarco Jackson or if Jamal mcdoal is going

to take more minutes. I think that should be sort itself out. KU has ten games in a row here, that should be a relatively easy, you know, breeding ground for that to happen before they get into the deep conference schedule. When Houston plays its first difficult game in February. Correct, Yes, I like the Houston shot there. And looking at the Big Twelve, we thought at the beginning of the year it was going to be Kansas, Baylor, and Houston. Those were the three teams we all thought Texas

would take a step back, and they lost to Yukon. So at this point kind of looks like they maybe a step behind everyone else. The Big Twelve doesn't look quiet as Fear says it has been in years past, where we talked about how the ninth best team in the Big Twelve is still competing for an NCAA tournament. Berth don't know if the second worst team in the

Big Twelve is still gonna be like that. Now that the league's a little bigger, teams like UCF for West Virginia sitting down there, maybe they'll finally have a couple of quote easy conference wins for a change. So yeah, I think you got to be pretty happy with where they're at. This is a very good team. I think that they are definitively one of the five best teams in college basketball right now, I don't think there's much of an

argument. I'm not ready to put Houston in here yet. They haven't played anybody. The five best teams in college basketball in some order are Perdue, Marquette, Kansas, Arizona, and Connecticut, and some order. You could put those in one through five and just about any combination, and I don't think you'd get a huge argument. So they're one of the five best teams. They're the best team in the Big Twelve, and we'll just continue to

see that arrow point upward as they get more comfortable. In this game, Kansas fifty two percent from the floor, thirty three percent from three, and fifty percent of the line. You'll take the field goal percentage. The other two needs some work. Plus ten at the art, plus ten on the glass, So a quality performance. Twelve hours after taking an ugly l to a great team, they come back and they beat another very good team. They fly home on a high note, and they collect their fifth win of

the season. Things could have gone better in Maui, but things also could have gone a whole lot worse other games. I just kind of put everything in other games where normally we would arrange them into the Big twelve section first. But there's a lot of tournaments to go through, so let's run down them here. Let's begin with Maui winning the tournament and earning the number one

spot in the polls. Is number two per Due, who defeated number four Marquette and the finals in a game that sounds better than it actually was seventy eight to seventy five. Zach Edy went for twenty eight and fifteen. He was named most Outstanding Player of this tournament. If the boiler Makers led the entire way, they hit like a seventy five foot buzzer beater. At the end of the first half, they were up twelve or something like that.

At the break, they were winning the whole night. The deficit got trimmed and trimmed. It got down to three in the final minute. But it was never one of those on the edge of your seat games. They were never not the favorite here. Purdue, Marquette, Kansas, and Tennessee finished one, two, three and four, and that or all top seven teams.

Don't know what you want to do with them in the polls, because are you gonna move Tennessee down for losing a two to one and back to back game, I don't know, like, how far down can they go? Top ten? I don't think most lost to two of the best five teams in the country. They'll drop a little bit. It should not be far at all. And as what normally happens on Feast week, just about everybody around the country loss, Like just this week alone we had twelve,

fourteen, seventeen, nineteen twenty. Like, all these teams are losing. So if there's not gonna be a whole lot of movement in the first place, to be fair, AP polls in college basketball shouldn't really happen conference play anyways. Oh yeah, well, Jeff Goodman actually think I have a Jeff Goodman blurblater here in the notes. We'll save his cloudness for another time. And the loser side of the bracket number eleven, Gonzaga predictably claimed fifth by

narrowly beating UCLA. We figured that the loser of that Tennessee Gonzaga game would blow through the loser's bracket, and that's what happened. The Bruins took sixth, while Syracuse absolutely annihilated Boorshamanad one hundred and five to fifty six. I think the halftime score of this was like fifty four to eighteen or something to salvage seventh place. Much like Mike Deepasqually Landon says he's got this with this next this, next paragraph, go for it, sir. Yeah. Battle

for Atlantis. Very impressive week for our favorite two seed Villanova. One tournament again. No, but I thought of it midsentence and it worked out. They beat Texas Tech, number fourteen North Carolina in overtime, and Memphis all in a row. They absolutely rolled the Tigers in the championship, leaving him forty nine to seventeen at one point. Yeah, that's basketball, folks.

The tar Heels ended up placing third after downing number twenty Arkansas and Texas Tech got fifth by beating Northern Iowa and Michigan after losing to Villanova in the open. A pretty good feel down there in Atlantis, and Villanova comes away the victor. Villanova always wins it. Remember that's the tournament that Archie Diacano upset Kansas and thirteen. They won it in seventeen I think or eighteen some around there, and then they win it again here a tournament Kansas has never won.

Villanova has now won three times. This and Maui are the two best tournaments every Thanksgiving. I think, yeah, I battle for Atlantis is like the Sierra Mist of versus spread. Hey it's starry now, oh my land Sorry? Sorry. The Alabama Auburn game just got absolutely bonkers and it's gonna happen. Yeah. Wait, do you see what happens here on fourth down? Here's a spoiler. It's going to make you sad because I know where your loyalties lie. I hate college football. I'm already pissed. I'm already

so pissed. And he's not even taking a snap yet. This is where my TV's added Landon's and wow, that was that was pretty wild? Uh So, Nick, let's talk about the Mauie tournament while Landon watches. His play was that this was built as the best tournament ever, and this was bil Maui was built as the best Thanksgiving Meek tournament ever. Did it live up to the hype? I think it did. I think it did. Uh. The championship game was enjoyable, White. I really thought it was

a good game, even though even though Purdue led the entire way. If Kansas would have kept it a little bit closer against Marquette, and the game was a little bit more of a back and forth. I think that you have, you know, a little bit more reason to say that this is the probably the best tournament, because you know, if the Purdue Tennessee semi final game was good. Uh so I think that. I think it was

great that the field was stacked. I don't know how they got, you know, four top ten teams in the field, but uh it was great. It was great event five top eleven teams in the field too. Landon, I don't know about you, but I thought this was kind of underwhelming. Like Kansas Marquette wasn't close, Kansas tent Sea wasn't close in the end. Perdue Marquette wasn't really that good of a game, like Marquette and Purdue played. Are not Marquette Perdue, Mark, Purdue and Tennessee played a pretty

good game that was pretty back and forth. But there weren't really any iconic games here, and I was hoping we get a couple bummer. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think at least just seeing these teams actually go up against each other was still quite interesting, I think. But yeah, I think the actual games not being like nail biters or any you know,

crazy overtime finishes. You could argue that's underwelling, but I do think it's interesting to see kind of where these teams stack up just against each other. In general, overall, it's a good tournament. I'm trying to look at the I cannot find anything on Google about if we have found any like Kansas's tournament next year. We don't know they're not gonna play in one of the major ones because those fields have already been announced. I know they opened the

season with North Carolina, but overall, like we we don't know. We don't know what they're gonna do. It might be this one, it might be The Mickey Mouse Invitational was known as the ESPN Saw What You Intational Also before it was known as the Advocare Invitational. Before that, it was known as the Old Spice Slice Classic. Right. Yeah, So whoever wants to

shill the most money, I guess can put their name on it. We can put the inside the paint Mike to Pascal uh Invitational on it next year hopefully, because Mike's got this golden on the court and he just jumps out he jumps, he jumps out, He jumps out with cameras point on a mid game and says, Mike's got this. I played college football, guys,

I also played college basketball. Uh in this In this tournament, though, the championship game will will take place tomorrow, if you're listening to this to now today, it will between number nineteenth Florida Atlantic, you know, the Final four National championship contender last year, and Virginia Tech. The Owls beating number twelve Texas A and M on Friday semi final and are brilliant ninety six to eighty nine game. Yeah, ho Keys took down Iowa State,

handing the Cyclones their first loss the season. And that's what happens when Iowa State plays a team that is not a Grambling Houston Bible. Yeah, it's funny how when Iowa State used to lose games under Hoiberg, they were like eighty to seventy eight, and now whenever they lose games, they're like sixty four to sixty two or something. Fugly, the Cyclones don't drink the kool

aid. They're gonna have a great record, and they do have another opportunity for a quality win when they play A and M for third place, but assuming they lose that this team is not going to have any quality wins by the time they get to conference play, and then they'll still probably beat Kansas when somebody who looks like Caleb Grill will go out there and make five threes

at Hilton as the Jayhawks are held to a season z one points. Seen that many times in the NIT tip Off, which takes place in New York City and another one of the tournaments where Kansas played Tennessee before. Feels like Kansas and Tennessee have played in a marquee game of just about all of these tournaments at some point. In this particular year, it was number thirteen Baylor that got to six and zero by taking down Oregon State and Florida to win.

In this tournament, the Bears scored a combined one hundred and eighty three points in their two wins. Jacoby Walter was in foul trouble and didn't play hardly at all, so it was ray J. Dennis who scored twenty four in the title game. The Bears look every bit as good and lethal on offense as they normally are. They are really, really, really good every

single year. On the offensive side of the ball. They'll roll through the next few weeks before playing Michigan State and Duke and consecutive games right before Christmas. More bad news if you're in this football game for you come and land in more points. Oh no, I'm there, I'm there. Oh, I'm so okay. There's Oh they just showed a crying Auburn girl. Oh

that poor Alabama can't have anything nice. She sat outside in the gold for fifty nine and a half minutes, only to watch Alabama score thirteen points in the final. Oh no, no, you haven't got so much worse. It doesn't matter. This one doesn't matter, but it gets worse. Man, don't put your faith in six and five teams kids, No, no, or yeah, because even in the sec where it just means more.

And Alabama's basketball team beat Organeda. You can't look me in the eye and tell me a conference that has Peyton Thorn as their quarterback means anything more than anyone else. Yeah, well, have fun with that, Oklahoma and Texas. Speaking of things that don't mean anything, like the Blue Devil Challenge means Jack Frick number nine Duke who Jeff Goodman moved ahead of Kansas in his personal rankings based on beating LaSalle and a one in six Southern Indiana team that Duke

trailed at half by four thirty five thirty one. They did win that game, Yeah, shocking, Make it makes sense. The Blue Devil Challenge the peyton thorn of Beast Week faments. Yeah, so Kentucky never plays in one of these tournaments. Duke does. Sometimes feels like we only really see him at Maui and the phil Knights stuff. Come on like that. You couldn't have gotten Duke in the ESPN Invitational or whatever the nick called the Mickey Mouse

Invitational. What like, you can't get come on like this is just a joke. I wonder if they get a trophy for winning the Blue Devil Challenge in their own stadium. It's just coach K's bust that they pull from the hallway. Ew gross, I wouldn't want that. Oh no, they're showing more crying Auburn fans all these If you're in a football game and you feel like you're going to cry, please look away because you are going to get your head anywhere. Yes, visible from a camera. Things that are very

visible from cameras. Jeff Goodman's forehead, as Nick has pointed out in the notes, says he could print his entire top twenty five lists on his forehead. Oh yeah, that's okay, Nick. Tell me about Virginia. Uh yeah, Virginia. There were twenty four. Virginia bounced back with a whopping fifty six points, which is fifteen more than they scored on the previous night. Did you West doing a daily fifty six to fifty four? The Mountaineers

are terrible two and three. The winner of this tournament was Wisconsin. Nobody cares it, guys. If a number twenty four Virginia played Iowa football, Oh my god, would the over under be said at anything higher than forty that's over under? It would just be that. Yeah, what was the over under in that Iowa Nebraska game yesterday? It was like twenty four and

a half and it was under. It went under under hit. It got off to a decent start, like if I remember the like, yeah, it was ten to seven at halftime, so they were more than halfway there. They were one touchdown away from making it really close, and there were just two field goals in the second half. Vegas knows always Oh, it's my turn, isn't it. Oh wow, I get to read about the

guys. We have too many tournaments. And if you don't believe me, how about eighty children They're Rady Children's Invitational, which the only reason we're talking about is because it featured a big twelve team. Oklahoma is six. Know they had a good week here they beat Iowa and number twenty three USC. Speaking of Iowa, transfer guard Otega Away is averaging fifteen points for the Sooners so far. He looks like the Who was the guy that they had last

year that was really good? They had one good player. I can't remember his name? Now, do you guys remember it? Nope? I'm typing something that's way funnier than that. What was the land that said we need the Children with Rabies Invitational? Presented by dunder Mifflin at this point? Who was Oklahoma's best fire last year? What was the the You're gonna have to ask that question a third time? Hit me one more time. Who was Oklahoma's leading scorer last year? The guy? He was good? Oh?

Oh oh, I remember him? He was good? Oh no, I see it. Grant Sherfield. Grant Sherfield, I think that, Uh, this guy, this Otega Away is kind of like their their version of him. So they will lose many games as he's theres a lot of points this year, even though they did beat USC and Andy Enfield. Hop wife, how much does this case State suck? Uh? In the CBE Hall of Fame Classic number eight, Creighton lost to Colorado State. I thought you said they lost to Colorado, which I no, no, no, no,

that weird The rams Colorado State much weirder. And on top of that, they lost by twenty one and only scored forty eight in the title game. No clue what happened to the Blue Jays there? And I'm pretty sure that was in Kansas City. I think the CBE Hall of Fame Classic is always in Kansas City. Yeah, just nobody goes to it. So Creighton scored

forty eight in a loss. Here're gonna remember that when they go ninety two on Kansas Here in the I'm gonna say around March twenty third feels about right from when that's gonna happen, as they make four threes in the first four minutes of the game. Did you guys see the fight in the byu Arizona State game. I heard about it. It was at like two in the morning because Feast week. It's in Vegas, so it's late, and a BYU players like through a couple of yet punches like not shoving, like clocked

fist and everything tried to shusha two shot. First, What was the BYU basketball team to be in Las Vegas? I thought that was forbidden? Second of all, when has a Mormon ever been allowed to throw up punch? Yeah, it doesn't happen very often. There's actually a pretty good Mormon population in Vegas. She didn't he know until recently. Then they were probably disappointed because that game, on top of featuring a fight, that game absolutely sucked.

The final score was Arizona State losing by twenty eight seventy seven to forty nine to BYU, who is undefeated, one of six undefeated Big twelve teams. Uh nick, somebody who's also undefeated. Is the number three team in college basketball? Tell me a little bit about that. And another fantastic event called the Acrosure Classic. Yeah, in the Michigan State lost another game Classic

Arizona and the three. Arizona held off the Spartans, who played better but lost for the third time before December for just the second time the tom Izzo era. The final score is seventy four to sixty eight. But guys, February, I Iszo good. Guys, tom Izzo is so good in March that he has won zero titles since Landon and I have been alive. Yeah, they now have more Novembers with three losses than titles under tom Izzo.

And I gotta tell you it's it's the same thing every year with Iszoh, they will underachieve their way to a sixth seed, and then they'll upset, shock us, Smart and Marquette because who else is getting upset early in March at a three seed, And then everybody will be like, yay Iszo again. Of course they're gonna go to the final four. And then they won't. We've seen this many times. Somebody who will not be going to the

final four, but they might with this record. Land And how about Nebraska seven and oh, one of the first teams in the country to reach seven and oh, that's that's pretty good. How about you read their opponents. I'm sure there are some quality teams on this list. There aren't. Lyndon Wood is one of their opponents. That's a team from the same that was a D two school team three years ago. For really, Florida A and MS they beat them, unlike Iowa State Ryder, which was the first team

I ever saw in Allen Field House was Kansas destroying Ryder. Remember Stony Brook. The only Power five team here, Oregon State, who is one of the worst Power five teams, Decane and Fullerton. There's there's not a lot of call. Is this Gonzaga's conference schedule? Oh? There you go,

good work. Yeah, honestly it is because you have Saint Mary's as their second biggest competition, and I don't remember who Saint Mary's lost to the other day they lost to Oh wow, San Diego State beat Saint Mary's by twenty five points a day a couple of days after they lost to Weber State at home. The Fighting Mary's might not be good. They're never good. Landon, when was the last time they were good? And don't say last year when they were a five seed, Because a five seed in the wc SEE

is a the equivalent of a twelve seed in any real conference. I think that's probably true. Lots of teams here ranked teams still since the last show number four Marquette. They are the highest ranked team losing to the Volunteers. Actually, that's wrong. I typed the wrong school there. They lost to the fighting zach Eats of Purdue in the finals, but number seven ranked Tennessee

the Volunteers. Indeed, they lost to r Jhawks, Buzz Williams in the number twelve Texas A and m Aggie's lost to national runner up Florida Atlantic. I think they lost in the final four. That's right, that's right. That final four is like, are just the mentally just so crazy? I don't remember it. I forgot that it was a buzzer beater. It was the show you were on that you missed the other day. Landon and I were talking about that and I totally forgot San Diego State had a right.

Yeah, it was just a totally forgettable And in six years, Elliott Ruson Age is gonna ask us some obscure fact that we didn't know about, how the trend in the last x amount of final fours have featured this seed or whatever. And we're gonna get to twenty nineteen or twenty nineteen, We're gonna get to twenty twenty three and be like, now, who the hell did

ukon beat? I don't remember. Of course, that's assuming that you guys are both still on this show, which Nick has already said, no, no in hell no, But well we'll see, you know, maybe maybe the fans of Rock Chalk Blog can pull their magic here. Number fourteen North Carolina Hubert Davis is no stranger to this list. He lost to Villanova in overtime. Number seventeen Alabama Gosh, I wish they'd just lost to Auburn, but no. In basketball they did lose to Ohio State, who also lost

in football, which has made my day better because screw Ohio State. With twenty Number twenty Arkansas lost to Memphis. In North Carolina, Alabama plays Ohio State and Clemson and back to back weeks their basketball team does. If that was a football schedule from four years ago, that would have been a lot better. Number twenty one Michigan State lost to Arizona. Their name has been on this list three times already this year. And number twenty three USC they

lost to Oklahoma. You had a good weeknd pick them Landon last week he went eight and two, but you still fell another game behind. Nick's now got a four game lead. I swear you have to keep doing this show till you win. To pick a year that has to happen, well, we would be here until it should be easier with only two people next year. Don't all right, you guys get an easy ask ARCB today because we decided we were gonna do this show pretty late, so there's only four questions.

So I will fill the void by asking one myself at Ryan Underscore Landreth, name your three favorite Christmas movies. I don't watch a lot of Christmas movies. That's a land and answer. If there ever was a landing answer, I think, don't say Diehard. Don't say die Hard. It's probably gotta be on there. Quality answer. I really like. It's a wonderful life. It's a good movie, really good movie. I think, oh my god, that that's an older take than your first watch take. That

movie is so bad it relevant. How it stayed relevant for this long is beyond me. It's a great movie. It is, it's really not all. You guys have the simplest taste in the world. And then the other one, which I wasn't gonna say, but I am gonna say just to make you angrier, is oh my gosh, that's an all time abysmal list. All right, Nick, what's yours? Tell me yours? My list is Home Alone, which is National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation Home Alone two. Home

Alone two is balls. I don't think it is. Home Alone two is absolutely awful. Is that? Are you really? Like? Really, that's one of your three favorites. I guess I if I, if I, if I'm gonna take one Home Alone, I'll go Home Alone one and then I'll replace the movies ever. So that's true. And the one and I watched them every year is uh is grumpy old man out of Christmas movie? Ah? That's close. That's really close. This is the only reason Nick

likes Home Alone two. Down to the left, You're down the hall into the left and he starts walking to the right. Yes, sounds like the state of American politics. Okay, so you guys are all around it. My hot take on Christmas movies is I think Christmas Vacation, despite being the human embodiment of Clark Griswold at Christmas time, I think that movie's a little overrated. I cannot freaking stand cousin Eddie. I can't stand that guy.

Uh. So that bumps in and that's what Home Alone. That's what Christmas Vacation two is all about. Uh, And it's just a it's awful, awful, awful. The best Christmas movie is A Christmas Story, followed by Elf, followed by Home Alone. I think maybe the ground lows not good. How the grin Stool Christmas is very good as well. It's very adorable

and it's very well done. A Christmas story. I watched it for the first time like two or three years ago, like all the way through I'd seen like tiny bits of it, actually sat down and watched the whole thing, actually enjoyed it. And then watched it last year and it was if it was a different movie. I wanted to vomit while gounging my eyes out. It was an unwatchable movie to me. It was the most cringe thing I've ever seen. It is only a good movie, I think because it's

such a classic. Like I remember being barely old enough to remember anything, and that movie was on in the background of Christmas. I have the full sized leg lamp in the living room, Like that's a must in his house. I know, I've seen your house many times. Yeah, it's got a couple good parts, like for GLA's hilarious. Yeah, the part where he fights with the bumpus his dogs is great. I love when Ralphie beats the hell out of the bully and the mom just leaves the kid bleeding in

the snow. I think that's funny. No, you get out of here. It's a great movie. It's a classic. Elf is a winner in every sense of the word that great. I don't know what other movies are there, Like Miracle on fifty four Streets sucks. I can't seen that one. Christmas with the Cranks is good. I'm a Tim Allen fan, so I like another hot take, Polar Express. I know it looks really wonky. I'm a fan mostly what there is no orangey stuff in it, but

I do like it overall. I hate that you can't get any worse than the Hallmark movies, though no I disagree. I'm a sucker for some good Netflix slash Hallmark Christmas movies like I Will Watch. They came out with one every year, it would be regarded as pretty respectable, right, but they don't. They come out with forty, so they're all exactly the same and

very boring. But I get. Yeah, we had the movies in one of my NBA classes that ku. We had the chief risk officer from Hallmark come in and talk, and he talked like extensively about how much money the Hallmark Channel makes because of the advertisements. But then also they've established this like cult following, Like old people sold out two cruises in like ten minutes because the Hallmark Christmas movie cast was gonna be on it. Yeah, premium commercial

time is whenever those Hallmark Christmas movies come on. I know more than one person that pays for cable specifically to keep the Hallmark Channel. It's a thing that's half way while my parents still have it because until very recently, most of the other options did not have Hallmark in their lineup. Yep. And and now eventually you're gonna get Hallmark Plus to go along with all the other

plus. Yeah, dirty is the risk officer. The risk officer said that they're launching an app, so of course, great Awesome can't wait to play Hallmark streaming app. Can't wait to watch one hundred and twenty seconds of ads every six minutes while paying whenever they want to charge for that to watch the forty sixth season of When Calls the Heart. Hey, but remember when Jeff Long said ESPN plus was only five dollars a month. I do, and now it's twelve. Yeah, and it still works as well. Good and

that price is no good. Yeah, two things that are not good at press rangement, Right, I forgot about that from cam Liple, from our buddy cam Liple. What a story? What a story that was at Preston Skirsik. Well, a mid season edition would be nice from a depth perspective, do you think the emergence of Jamari McDowell has changed things? Would it

potentially hinder development of McDowell, Furfey and Jackson. So there have been a couple of articles here suggesting that Kansas may be looking at pieces to add at the mid season mark, at the mid semester break. I don't know how realistic that is, As Landon has said before on the show, last time they did that, it got a final four vacated a few years later, So I don't really know how that would work Slash, if it would even be worth it. But yes, I do believe the premise of this question

is right. Mcdell, furfi and Jackson and Timberlake for that matter. They should be plenty enough. They need to get out the guys, quote unquote fix the what's wrong about the team. They're on the roster already. Yes, I would, Now I would. You never say no in case a guy gets hurt. But I have a hard time believing that they are adding just about anybody at January fifth or whatever, it's gonna actually make a difference for this team going fourth. Yeah, I would take it, because if

nothing else, the depth on this team is so low. Like that you're saying, just in case of injury or just something weird happens, I would be okay with another body, but I would not expect that particular player to really contribute much. I mean, if you're if you're good enough to transfer to a team like Kansas and contribute, you've already you're already off the market. At Ryan Underscore Landrath. What do you think of Shrek? It's fine, The first one is fine. The second one has fine moments, and

it introduces Puss and Boots, which is awesome. So you don't think that. You don't think the second one is as good as the first. I think they're one A and one B. I haven't seen them in quite a long time. I think the first one, for originality gets it over the second. I agree, but I think they're real close. Nick. I also agree that three and four aren't very good. Three is better than four. Nick, what are your thoughts on Shrek? It's a great movie,

Thank you. It was the last good It was the last good Pixar movie. I don't even know. There's been a few good lots of Pixar movies, Nick, Nick toy the Pixar movies to you? Yeah, yeah, basically, dude, I don't know. I couldn't. I couldn't tell you the difference between Marvel and uh, what's the other one? Oh, you're gonna kill land over here, You're gonna kill our six year old d C? Is it d C? Yeah? Like you mean Batman and Spider Man? Like you're not sure which is which? Yeah? What? Hell?

Those is? DC and the other spider Man. So there's been lots of good Pixar movies since Shrek, though Monsters ain't the best. Okay, you're you're a more modern guy than I am. I think Finding Nemo is is my childhood. That movie Cars, ever, is so slept on. Cars is great? Yep, do you see the video Stephen A. Smith arguing with a caller about if Lightning mc queen was the real goat of of the whatever cup they have in that movie. Oh, the piston cup, Yeah,

the piston cup. He had eight piston cups in nine years, but what's his name had eight as well, So they were arguing over it. They had to lay off, like seven or eight journalists that ESPN to pay Stephen A. Smith Smith to talk about their cars animated movies awful. I will tell you, though, Landon, if anybody can, if anybody can challenge cousin Eddie for the worst character ever, it's Mader from Cars. That bastard is the worst animated character ever. And Cars two is all about Maider

and I hate it. Cars two is the worst Pixar movie. I don't even think that's debatable. I think Cars two is awful. Another one that Troy slept On is Up. Up is very cute. Up's great. The beginning of Up is the saddest thing I've ever seen other than the end of Toy Story three. Oh yeah, and then they'd bring them all back for like two more movies. So it doesn't it doesn't really it loses the shock. I read this exactly what you expected whenever you clicked this podcast. Huh,

we're talking about the worst and cutest Pixar movies. Well, that's what happens when we don't have very many questions at steven. That's the fun. Timmy seventeen. Would you rather sit next to a crying baby or Shaka Smart on a twelve hour flight? I assume Shaka Smart Shaka because I wouldn't kill myself. I could not sit least to it. I could not sit next to crying baby for ten minutes. Or what what if we I would jump out the plane. I would break the window open in case of emergency and

beat myself out of it. What if we changed the question to what if Shaka and a crying baby sit next to each other and Shaka yells at the baby to shut the f up and then tries to charge at it. Well, in that case, I would I would take some action against jakas smart because that's unreasonable, but also like you would be doing us a favor in some ways. A couple from at show me hawk here to close us out? Should I make parallels between last year's Kansas Jayhawks basketball team and this year's

Chiefs team. Both teams were good defending champions of their respective sport, but both teams were still really good in their own right. But you just notice a fatal flaw with both that would be a roadblock from either team from winning back to back championships. First off, I think the Chiefs are still the

favorite to win it all. I think they're better than the Eagles. I know that they didn't win that game, but I think that I mean one hundred more yards, more sacks, more time, and possagually they felt like the better team there. If Kelsey doesn't fubble in the red zone, I think they win. And hell of Valdez Scantling, who landed thinks was overthrown by thirty yards, makes a freaking catch that any NFL wide receivers both to make. I can't believe you thought that that was a bad pass overthrown by

a yard. It was right in his palms and the only reason it wasn't elbows is because the alligator armed it debatill whatever. That's that's that's a catch that ninety percent of NFL players need to make. The Justphin Watson catches harder with that, like gosh, Justin Watson catches so much harder. Yes, much much harder. I still should have been caught, but still harder catch. Uh. No, the Cheese are still the best team in the AFC, and I'm not ready to bury them yet, uh by any stretch.

But yeah, the Jayhawks you're you're if if the Chiefs end up going down in the divisional round and the receivers have another Lions or Eagles like performance, that take will Age like fine wine. Yes, at show me Hawk one more? How would you grade KU football this season? Sounds like Nixon Tenna's just shut up. On paper, we accomplished our goal by clinching our first winning season since two thousand and eight. We got a top ten road win,

our ranked win, and went to a second consecutive bowl game. But if you look at the glass half, they blew three winnable games against Oklahoma State, text Tech in Kansas State, missing out on a chance to play for a Big twelve title in Arlington. Yeah, I think you pretty much summed it up there, Nick. How would you assess k football this season? I think it's been good. I mean, any improvement from even improvement

from last year is still good. But I hate the argument that it's like, well, if this just would have happened, if this they lost four games, guys, I mean maybe by the time you listen to this, who knows the football is not going to be You're gonna have the Kudu Shitta woods in college football. Man. So I think all things considered, this is right where you know, people kind of put them at the watermark this

year. Eight wins, nine wins. Maybe I think that's a good stepping stone for next year when you get most of these guys back, and then you're gonna be looking at, you know, can this team reach in new year six? So I think it was a successful season all things considered. I mean, I think that if you had told me at the beginning of the year that they weren't gonna have Jalen Daniels for what, what did he

played one big twelve game. Like, if you had told me that was the case and they still had a chance at eight and four, I would have said that they hit it out of the park. Yeah, I think that's part of the thing. If if you showed me, if you guaranteed me eight and four before the season, I would have taken that in an instant. Also, in like fifteen years, looking back on an eight and four season, I'll be like, hey, that was a really great year.

You would have taken eight and four before the season started with Daniels, Yeah for real, No, exactly, Like that's the thing. Uh, watching it unfold, it's a little harder to swallow some of it because I know that they should win or should have won more. And yeah, Nick is right, In ninety percent of college football seasons, you have a could have, should have, would have if this would have happened, if that

would have happened, no doubt about that. But uh, it's still is a little bit hard to swallow considering like, like it would have been pretty awesome to have Kansas be like potentially eleven and one, I'll play for a big twelfth title. That would have been pretty sick. So I'm not awesome, but I don't want to pee in anybody's cheerios. But everybody who's talking about, oh, next year they get Daniels back, I have no confidence

whatsoever in this. He has not proven any ability to stay healthy. So I have no clue how anybody can expect next year he comes back, and they just hum all the way to Arlington, Like, I'd be thrilled if he plays six games next year. At this point, yeah, I have no clue what's going to happen there. It'll be cool if he actually plays well. Something that we do have a clue on what's gonna happen is Eastern Illinois at Kansas. So let's go ahead and blow the airhorn and we can

talk all about it. And this is me stalling because I accidentally close the soundboard. Here it is, it's back open, you know, as everybody else says Ryan Landra so much. I'm used to it. I'm used to it. So that was one of the rare times where I was able to mute a drop for the perfect amount of time where it sounded seamless, seamless. Normally it's very clunky, and that's just that was much better. All

right, let's do it. Eastern Illinois at there's still one, but what probably like four or so by the time this comes out, we think they get passed by Purdue. Arizona probably did this, and Marquette probably passes them, right, it will probably pass them. Yeah, I don't know if you can have who's five. I don't know if Yukon can pass them. They feel like they'll be somewhere between three and five. I think it'll be four. But the Eastern Illinois Panthers of the Ohio Valley Conference, they are

two and four overall. They beat Monmouth and Coppin State by score. Not that Monmouth by the way, Illinois, Yeah, not even the good I didn't know there was Monmouth in Illinois. They beat Coppon State by I score forty eight forty six, which here's for Oklahoma and TCU played a higher scoring football game the other day. They played one game against the opponent on opening

night at Illinois Illinois Proper and they lost that eighty to fifty two. So I'm gonna start with Panthers or Jimmy Garoppolo you as they like to be called. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. I was just really disappointed in how poor this team is. But leading the Panthers is shooting guard Nakel John Shelton, who is averaging less than eleven points per game. Tiger Booker is the point guard. Cooper Jacoby is a big man in note he's six for

seven and averages ten and seven. He's a white dude that shoots twenty three percent on threes. Guess what happens on Monday night, guys. Oh, I know, I know that that's what happens. Also, Nick calling Nikkiel Shelton Nakel Shelton is awesome. He just bypassed through that. Why there in the notes today? That's fine. They got some good names. They got Nikiel Tiger and Cooper and Cooper uh being the only white guy of those three

checks out and his name's Sol the Kay. So there's that. That show not only one of the worst college basketball offenses but also one of the most downright unwatchable. Eastern Illinois is bottom twenty five nationally in points, shooting percentage, and free throw rate. So not only do they not score when the clock is running, they don't score when it's stopped either. They are shooting under forty two percent on twos. That is impossible. That's bottom three nationally.

As a team, they shoot just thirty three percent from three, which is actually one of their better numbers compared to the rest of these yere and their best asset is offensive rebounding, but that's mainly just because they miss so many shots. They haven't been good at defending the post this year, or they have. They've also been good at defending the post this year, but they haven't played Hunter Dickinson yet. Yeah, I think that might change someone

else. They've never played Kansas. These two teams have never squared off third time. This year, Kansas plays somebody who is all new and I mean I know they squashed Manhattan, and I know that they squashed who is the team they beat in the open North Carolina Central? I think yep, but this this feels like the worst team on their schedule, and I think that that will show. I am predicting Kansas hits triple digits for the first time this year in two years. They didn't do that last year either. Oh,

you're right. I think this game will be one hundred and four to sixty seven, complete and utter destruction of the Panthers. Okay, I think KU wins forty six to forty two. Ku coppin State Jayhawks out there just trying to get to Do you guys know the last time Kansas scored one hundred in an NCAA tournament game. It was against sorry, not NCAA tournament game. Do you know the last time Howard wasn't it? Nope? They scored

ninety eight against Howard, Texas Southern. Nope, they scored eighty three against Texas Southern. I forgot this game happened. The last time they scored one hundred was against Kansas State in those sunflower jerseys in February of twenty twenty two. Yeah, beautiful game. They scored one hundred and two games that year. One was kse State. What was the other Missouri? Correct? Yep where I think it was one of the t Hans, not Connor. Was

Chris t Han that hit that three? And I will always remember that game for Landon. You were there, you bought a ticket that I was game. Those tickets are so expensive, like an hour and fifteen minutes before the game, and walked in as the hype that he was playing. So Bobby Narrell, who is one of the former Rock Chalk Blog writers, was messaging me. He lives in Indiana and tries to come down for a game each year, and we were messaging about the cost of tickets for this Missouri game.

He said, I wanted to come down there about two hundred and eighty dollars And I said, what the hell there? How much? Looking at them right now, they are still one hundred and ninety five dollars before fees for your cheapest seats to get into these games. So I don't I don't know are expecting that to be worth saying that kind of money to you. That's gonna be a not very fun game to watch, depending on if you

like or don't like Kansas. But I think the problem that I have with Eastern Illinois keeping this game close is they do play pretty good defense, but that just goes out the window when you're playing a team like this. I

think Kansas absolutely wipes the floor clean with the Panthers and wins. Yeah, something like one hundred and two to sixty or something like Dickinson's gonna score twenty points in twenty minutes, and then hopefully we get to see I want to see the two guards step up. I want to see ten points from Alarco Jackson for the first time. I want to see ten points from Nick Timberland, excuse me, from Nick Timberlake for the first time since that opening game.

Let's get these guys developed a little bit and maybe that will lead to some success because Yukon three days after that gonna be really tough sledding for the Jayhawks after they get past this game. Other games around college basketball this week is a brand new ACC SEC challenge. No more Big twelve SEC, no more Big ten ACC. Instead you get the ACC and the SEC playing head to head. What do you guys like in these games? Here? Number

ten, Miami at number sixteen Kentucky. Pretty good game here at rupp Arena. Do you trust John Calipari's Wildcats? I do give me a big blue yep. I'm gonna say Miami wins on the road. I think that the Hurricanes are good. Kentucky always kind of their way through these early non con games. I think Miami beats them at Rop. It's gonna throw a dart. Number seven, Tennessee at number fourteen North Carolina. All of these rankings are going to change, but for now it's what we've got. I will

take Hubert Davis's squad here. I think that Tennessee takes you out another loss. I like the volunteers here. I'll take you North Carolina. Wow, all right? Number twelve Texas A and m at Virginia. I don't care how good or bad they are. I'm never picking them. Give me the Aggies. I kind of want to take Uva, but I just can't do it, So give me Texas A and M. I'll do it that ballsy

good luck, sir, and number nine Duke at number twenty. Arkansas has not been the best start for the Razorbacks, but this is gonna be a hell of an environment. I think the Razorbacks win. Uh yeah, I actually do. I wow sweep there against Jeff Goodman's favorite basketball team. Actually, no, I'm gonna flip because they have that injured player. So I'm gonna go with Duke. All right, all right, Oh that's true. That is true. That's a good point. I'm gonna just stick with my

pick blindly. Yep, don't care. Think Arkansas wins at home. So our next show is gonna be on a Wednesday night, Landon. You are a question mark on that one, right, Your perfect attendance is in jeopardy here. Yeah, we'll see. I might have some cold sweats over mix, missing my perfect attendance, right not really don't care that, but yeah, we'll see hopefully be on it, but we'll see at least Nick and I on Wednesday night. That gets you ready for one of the biggest games

of non conference play. The Yukon Huskies set to come into Allen Field House for a Friday night tilt next week. We will be back in time to do that, and then after that the schedule gets pretty soft for a while for the Jayhawks till then. This is inside the Paint On Rock Chalk Blog. I am Ryan Landrath, I am Jalen daniels Back. Oh, I'm Nick Puscovie. I liked it better Landon whenever you were. Whenever you were

Nick Timberlake's defense, I think I prefer that to Jayalen daniels Back. Yeah, actually I do too, because at least Timberlake plays defense lazy tries. At least there's an effort made. Oh, we probably shouldn't shaft out on the podcast, but you know what, take away my invisible press pass. I don't care.