And by the absolute skin of their teeth, they survived barely. And you guys never lost any any confidence, right. Was there ever a point in that game where you thought, I bet the odds are higher that Kansas loses than doesn't. No, Nick, No, yep, nope, that's the answer. We watched a few of these games, so we'll we'll see.
There was a very Allen field House. I've I've been in a lot of Allan field House atmospheres and they're they're all a little different, but this one was a nervous Allan field House, Like there were way more people turning around not wanting to watch the free throw attempts because they were so nervous. Like, this was a very nervous vibe at Allan. And they didn't end up
having to go home sad because Kansas, thanks to who else? Then the refs walk out of there with a conference opening victory for what feels like the two millionth year in a row. And so what are we gonna do. We're gonna We're gonna come in here, we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna tell you all about those Kansas Jayhawks and how they keep getting worse in the met tricks, but they keep getting better. In the wind lost column. This is inside the paint, it is on Rock Chalk Blog. I
am Ryan Landrath. I am the Raymond that everybody loves, and I'm no. Those are both good. I want to ask questions about both of those. Landon I I are you still and everybody loves Raymond guy. The more sitcoms that I watched that I haven't seen before, the less I become an everybody of those Raymond guys. Ouch, all right, it's good cast And I I remember giving you a bunch of DVDs of it once, which is why I said it, because I was looking at the box set that you
gave me and that was my panic name called. I cannot even believe that you still have that at your house. That's amazing. And Nick Ernest Ooday senior boy. Yeah, it was that he might be the only person in the world. Uh. That's that's sadder for Ernest day than we are, because what a what a rough luck moment for for Ernest getting up there, which we'll talk all about. But man, like, let's let I won't ask any more questions. Let's trip the band aid off and talk all about
the Zebras number two, Kansas eighty three. You know him on this show for one reason and one reason only, and it's because the TCU Frogs eighty one. Well, let's let's do it. Somebody read the game story so we can talk about the stripes, all right. In a game in which neither team led by more than six at any point, Kansas and tc went back and forth for more than twenty five lead changes, but was the Horny
Frogs that had a two point lead. With a minute left. Ernest Oude intercepted an entry pass but was called for a flagrant foul to try to clear out around him, resulting in a four point possession for the Jayhawks. After TCU tied the game less than half a minute ago, Dewan Harris bled the clock and found Hunter Dickinson for a game winning bucket with three seconds to go. Dcu's quality game winning three point look fell short and air ball at the
end to steal the narrow win. For the first things. First, they won, right, we looked at the Big twelve schedule. We all talked about how the first half was way easier than the back half. They can't afford if they want to win this League, which I don't know how much of a priority people place on that anymore. But if the goalists to win the conference, they cannot afford to be slipping up at home, and they
cannot afford to be slipping up very much in the first half. So I don't know how much of how many points you want to give them for this one. It's just kind of more survival than it is. They really accomplish something great. But we have to talk about the refs because Landon, as you said, Ernest Dudey, was called for a flagrant foul with fifty seven seconds left. He was trying to clear out for a rebound. I do not believe there was any intent. The rule book states it doesn't matter if
there is intent. If there is contact above the neck, then it will be called a flagrant TCU was all set to have the ball up to where they really I don't want to say could have ended the game, but they could have gone up two possessions with less than thirty seconds left, and that would have been a very difficult hole for Kansas to fall to climb out of. And instead, by the time they touched the ball again, they were losing by two points. So a huge swing at that flagrant was Nick,
Let's start with you. Was it a flagrant? Here's the thing, this is a semantics answer for me. I think that it was a flagrant. I think that the way the rule book has it, even if it's inadvertent content not intentional, I think forcible contact, you know, to the face is still going to be called, maybe for the fact that it interrupted you know, hundred Dickenson's ability to react on the transition. But I in this case, probably with the way that the game was playing, would not have
called this a flagrant foul. I think that the type the stoppage to go look at it was sufficient enough. I think that's a penalty enough for tcu is to stop their fast break opportunity. But I think calling this a flagrant one towards the end of the game, particularly when it's a two point one possession game and then and essentially a flagrant one is going to give the opposing team a chance at two possessions back before the other team even touches the ball
again. So in this case, I probably wouldn't have called it a flagrant one. I think Kansas did get the benefit on there, but again I'm not arguing the semantics of yes, this could have been called a flagr foul? Do they do I think it should have been called? No? Probably not. Do I think Kansas would have won if this wasn't called. I don't think so. So I think if they benefited from this from the refs,
I think if you say otherwise, you're probably naive. But that's my that's my sinse Okay, So Landon Nick kind of has the Twitter angle. I think he thinks that it probably was a flagrant by rule. However, in this in the stakes which we hear that a lot, both in college basketball and in football and all sorts of stuff. The stuff that you call with four minutes four minutes gone in the first half is a little different than what you call in the final minute. Maybe it's one you let go.
And overall, if you're a TCU fan, you should feel like you got a little bit job. That I think is the most common answer that we're seeing on the interwebs. Do you agree, Yeah, I mostly do agree. I think yeah. Again, by the letter of the law, yeah, that probably is a flagrant. It does feel pretty ticky tack for for that kind of moment. I mean, I get you know inadvertent contact can
be a flagrant. It probably should, because obviously you can see much worse in inverting contact from time to time than what we saw on this particular play. Yeah, I think if you're a TCU fan, you should pretty rightfully not feel thrilled about it, even if it is technically speaking the correct call. Sah, I think you guys are both wrong. I don't know. We don't disagree a ton on the show, but I think it was a clear argued against something that benefits his own team. No, I mean,
I know that that's gonna be the take, and that's fine. You can call me a homer like that's I feel like I have a decent setup. I've been called not a homer enough on this show with being too critical of Bill self or whatever. But I think as as clear as day flagrant, Like you read the rule book, you hit somebody above the neck with an elbow, it's gonna be called a flagrant. Now, Hunter Dickinson did a
really good job selling it. I don't even know if they were to stop the game until yeah, until he was rolling around on the floor, which you know he knew the rule book and took full advantage of it, and I'm not saying it didn't hurt. I'm sure it hurt like hell, but he sure made a quick recovery to be able to sink those two free throws and then score the game winner a couple of possessions later. So yeah,
I thought it was an absolutely easy call for the officials. I didn't know what they were gonna call it for what you guys said, because do they call it with him and at left. We've seen things that are worse than that and not be called flagrance By a letter of the law. It's a flagrant, and the flagrant two tag is what happens whenever there's intent. I think a lot of people think the word flagrant means there has to be intent. It does not. If you hit somebody in the face with an elbow
on purpose or not, it is going to be a flagrant. Maybe it's time to review what exactly a flagrant one entails, because I'm with you, getting too shot and the ball that feels a little bit much in that moment, considering it was an accidental banging of the elbow into a nose. But by the rule book, they got it right, and that's not something that you can say a ton about the refs. There's a ton of awful calls
in this game. By the way, I don't want to be the KU fan that when they benefit from the biggest call in the game, I get on there and I say, well, the refs screwed up both things. But come on, we were like two minutes after Emmanuel Miller just shoving somebody I think it was el Marco Jackson and taking two zero steps back with a blatant push off, and they didn't call that because it was in a close
game. And then there was another moment earlier in the game where there was a really egregious flop I think also by Miller, and they didn't call that or they did call that a foul on Kansas. So per usual, the officials missed a bunch of stuff, But I don't think there's any room for misinterpretation on this one. I think that was as clear as day foul,
and I'm surprised that so many people are so angry about it. That surprise you, Like, it seemed kind of obvious, but being there and then watching it on the replay, I mean, I don't disagree that it is a foul. Like I said, I do think it's the right call. It is a foul. I just I don't know. I guess it didn't love it, which I guess is just like that's purely my own opinion obviously, Like I don't have necessarily any ground to stand on if I'm am minting
it's a foul. I do think it would be weird to be like, I do think it'd be weird if you're a TCU fan to like be like, oh my gosh, the refs completely screwed us over here because it is a foul. But I understand maybe being like, you know, I've seen a lot more physical fouls in my time. I would get if you felt disappointed, You've also seen a lot more physical plays not yet called fouls. Right, How are you surprised that fans are reacting that way when like every
single time a bad call is called it on field House? It seems like when I had Twitter, it was kse State fans, Missouri fans very very quick to jump point out. Even college basketball in general thinks that kau gets a favorable with salon on field House. So there's always you know, it goes back to this few mc kaywac walk like that's like the poster child of Kau getting called in on the field house. But it seems like anytime anything
slightly controversial, it's called in KU's favor in al infield house. The Twitter keyboard Warriors are quick to jump on their author unemployment for a second, to go on their keyboard and talk about kay basketball getting good, good calls in the onfield house. It's just it's it's like it's like a groundhog scene, a shadow. Well they are, but most of the time, if that happens, their judgment calls like this feed call was something that they got incorrect.
You look at the real book and they made their wrong call. He took he took more steps than you had than you're allowed to take, and therefore they should have called it. It was also one of those calls where in the final few minutes you have people that say, if it's that close and there's only a couple of seconds left, that you let more stuff go
or whatever. It's why guys get tackled on hal Mary's in the NFL way more stuff that would have been called pass interfair on just about any play throughout the course of the game, but not on the last play. Fine whatever. But this was, like by the rule book, it's a foul. Like isn't that what you want an Alan Fieldhouse. You want refs to stick to the rules and not get bought, not get persuaded by noise, not be persuaded by how much times left or the game situation. It's an elbow
to the face. I'm surprised that. And I don't know if there are actually people that really think that that was a Kansas and Alan Fieldhouse call, or if it's just people who are tired of seeing Kansas win and therefore it a noise then that it so happened to benefit Kansas. But that's getting called in any building against any team. That just seemed like an easy call.
And I felt horrible for Ernest Uday, who is a good dude and was just trying to help his team win in a building that you know he wanted to win at badly. There was no mal intent whatsoever behind him, just trying to get a rebound and clear out or still a pass I guess and clear out. But yeah, it was a foul. I thought it as
clear as day. I'm over refs. I'm so over reps. I've had enough refs in the last week between the NFL refs and the reporting eligible and this and just they're so all the time refs, this refs that no one's ever happy. Kansas got the benefit in this game from the officials. You won't have to wait long to see a big call go against them because refs are out to screw everybody throughout the course of a season. Yeah, I think that is an excellent note to end on. All Right, shall we
move on to Hunter Dickinson. Yeah, and his excellent outing at least on one side of the floor. He had thirty points and eleven rebounds, and he went thirteen for twenty from the floor. They needed every single one of his buckets. Felt like the ultimate Dickinson experience, as his offense his rebounding were brilliant, but his defense was exploited by TCU with plenty of buckets at the rim. Overall, Nick, how would you assess a thirty and eleven
double double from Hunter Dickinson? But he was made a little bit the lacks on defense offensively well endowed defensively. Use some improvements, But yeah, I've had that criticism all Like, I'm not first of all, thirty points and love of rebounds. Does not deserve any criticism regardless of how he played on defense. But I've said this season that it seems like at times he's kind of lazy on switches and in the paint, not being great at defending,
at least before his size, that can be thrown away. This dude's averaging. Him and Kevin McCuller are doing enough offensively that they can guys like you know, kJ Adams and Dwan Harris should make up some of the slack on defense he's been. He's been the exceptional. This was an exceptionable exceptional performance.
I think that's the rerect the correct take. Connor Dickinson was fantastic, and we talk about how, no, he's not the best defender, and the reason he's not the best defender is because are there plays that he doesn't go as hard at contesting a shot? Yes, but then what happens He had two fous thirty five minutes. Why was Hunter Digginson in a spot to score four points in the final minutes of a game Kansas won by two points. Because he's never in foul trouble, He's always available, and he's never
tired. They have him out there because of his play style. There are plenty of things you can critique about his play style. Yeah, it'd be awesome if he was Marcus Garrett in a seven foot two body on the defensive end, but he's not. You have to take what you can get. His play style is absolutely what allowed TCU to get some buckets at the rim, which also they're good at that. They would have scored against plenty of good defensive teams as well. Bill self didn't seem concerned about it either.
Bill Self said that Kansas only gave up if you take out points off turnovers, TCU didn't even make it out of the fifties. The defense was fine. The problem was TCU's best offense was taking the ball away and running with it. All of that nonsense that you saw with Kansas turning it over eighteen times is what led at TCU scoring so many points. Dickinson gave up some buckets, but Perry Ellis did too, and everybody thought he was a sucky
defender, and it's like, no, that's just basketball. I don't know. It was fantastic five stars per Hunter. It's his second best performance as a Jayhawk after Kentucky. That's my opinion. Uh yeah, I agree. I also, I mean, I think a guy can be a bad defender, that doesn't make him a bad player. Like I think we can very readily admit that Hunter Dickinson is not the best defender we've ever seen in the post position for the Jayhawks. It's like he's not you know, there's been
much better defenders down low. I just don't think that changes my opinion of him too much. If he's gonna go out and average like you know, dang near twenty a night, right. That's what I want to ask you, because while you didn't like Marcus Garrett, who, honest to God, might be like the inverse of Hunter Dickinson in a different position. Garrett was an unbelievable defender. We obviously know that National Defensive Player of the Year.
The offense didn't come as naturally. It wasn't that he was terrible at it, it just wasn't natural for him. And then also the season where he was the prominent point guard, he didn't have a ton of weapons around him that at least according to Kansas's state you know, based off of who Kansas normally has whatever, Hunter Dickinson is one of the two three best offensive players in the country, averaging nineteen points and twelve rebounds a game. He's an
unstoppable force and has been every season of his career. Defensively, yeah, yeah, not the best on a team that's pretty good at defense. So I mean, if you didn't like Marcus Garrett, I guess that makes sense why you really do like Hunter Digginson. Yeah, and again, I mean I do value immensely having good defenders. I think you just have to be able to score the basketball to start at a program like Kansas. I just
don't think that's really a very spicy take. Not that you can't be good, not that you can't have a role, but yeah, I mean I think that's that's why I like Hunter. If you're gonna give up buckets, go get him back. And that was kind of a problem with like Mitch Lightfoot for a long time, not a very good defender outside of the occasional shot block, but then it wasn't like he was averaging anything. He was a non score most of his career. Obviously not the case with Hunter.
So yeah, I think I'm definitely gonna live with him giving up some buckets down low because he's a juggernaut on the other end, And I feel very confident saying that ninety ninety five percent of the games, Hunter Dickinson is going to get more baskets than he allows, like he's always He's still seven too, He's not exactly going to be like non affective. Yeah, are not affecting shots, I should say in the paint, like he's going to avert
many a point guard from taking buckets at him. And it's one of those things where I don't know, did you guys ever play the backyard sports CD games growing up? Uh? Football and basketball? You did play basketball? Okay, that's good enough for me, so backyard basketball, right. All the different kids had different skill sets, and you never picked five the five best three point shooters. Are you never picked the five best defenders? There's
balance. If you have a couple guys on your team that are really good at defense, then you were gonna look at some guys who had their skill points maxed out on the offensive end, and they may not have been as good on defense, but you say, hey, we got plenty of that on our team. Same story, Lige. No matter what, every once in a while, you're gonna get a donut and you can dunk from half
gas. You can dunk it and it's worth three points, So you better make sure you step behind the line before you hit that shot button on that Yes, I'm playing that like twenty four hours ago, so I get that reference. But the thing with Hunter is you have fantastic defenders on your team, and Jawan Harris and Kevin mccoller and kJ Adams. He doesn't need to be a chem Elijahan on the defensive end. He's he is exactly what they need. They need twenty and ten. That's what Bill self said last year
in his season ending press conference. What do you need next year? Bill sarcastically, Well, twenty and ten from a center would be nice. That's exactly what he has. Although you want better. He's got twenty and twelve right now. So Dickinson in fantastic newists. Yeah, and he probably a couple of blocks and shoots forty something percent from threes. I mean, he's ridiculous. Hunter Dickinson is the best offensive big I've ever seen play at Kansas.
Like, and that's about twenty ish years of fandom that I really remember. What's up? Yeah, I would not disagree. Twenty is years. That is pocket change compared to the streak that Kansas has going thanks to fields out put on these bills to must How about thirty three straight years that the Jayhawks have started one and zero in conference play. So there are some pretty
wild streaks we've talked about on here. The Senior Night streak is great, the Big twelve winning all those conference titles in a row, we all remember that, all that whatever. That's about as wild of a streak as you can have. Thirty three in a row, and just the last two have been ridiculous to get. They haven't lost an opening conference game since year number four, I believe, of the Roy Williams era. Yeah, that is pretty wild. Like eighty nine nine, you think they would randomly just unluckily
lose one there year number eight eight? Were so Roy's first eighty eight, eighty nine, ninety Yeah, yeah, it's it's right around there. First couple of years of the Roy era just ridiculous. Okay, let's talk about Dewan Harris. I put him second because I wanted to talk about him higher up in the priority list here. Dewan Harris was shut out in the first half. We were all texting about how that was a problem in the first
half. I believe Kansas all their points besides one free throw from Johnny Furfey, came from kJ Adams, Kevin mccullar, Hunter Dickinson. I think that's all they had in the first half other than the one free throw. Dewan goes from zero at halftime to ten in the second half. Three for seven from the floor, plus eight assists and five turnovers both led the team.
He also made four clutch free throws in the final few minutes. You guys both have had words about Dewan Harris this year, Nick, mainly you. I'm curious your thoughts on Dewan Harris in this game. He was great in the second half, not so great in the first half. How did the whole thing shape up for you? Yeah, I think it shaped out. How a season has been a mixed bag, very I tailored two different Dwan
Harris's. You know, we'll go back to the Kentucky game where he was unbelievable, and then there's just some games, you know, like the zero point performance I think to start the to start the year, and it's just
it's Dewan Harris has been a little puzzling this year. In the past season, it seemed like he's been a little bit more reliable and now right now, defensive he's gonna be the same, But right now it does he does seem kind of a little bit up in the air on what we're gonna get from to one Harris, I don't know, what do you think, Glennon,
Yeah, I don't. I don't necessarily disagree. I do think he was solid and certainly had a huge bucket near the end of the game too that that weird floating or mid air floater or I should say, I think he was solid. I think I think he's been solid all season. To be quite honest, I don't really think he's been bad. But yeah, I don't know. It's it's kind of tough when you saw five turnovers, you're not a huge, huge scoring threat in the first half. I still
think he's been good. Uh, but I do think they're gonna need more of ten or so points from the night rather than five. Well, and Harris contributed to the biggest problem of the game for Kansas was just turnovers. I legitimately thought the offense was better with him out for a while and then suddenly he wasn't. And Bill self said after the game, something Bill self says after most games, Wow are we good when Dwan Harris looks to score?
YEP, I don't know what the deal is. I don't know if he likes to kind of start off by not trying to score and kind of trying to feel out the rest of the game or how the opponent playing, or if he likes to kick it in late because it feels like he does do more second half scoring than first half scoring. Uh, but wow, Dewan Harris is just amazing to watch when he gets going the way he quarterbacks
an offense. How spectacular of a final entry pass that was whenever he was he was getting the ball up and over a defender to Hunter Dickinson for the game winner, Like he is just a maestro quarterbacking in offense whenever he wants. And then there's moments wherever he just completely doesn't look to score and it looks like they're playing four on five out there. Bottom line, the National Championship is plenty good enough for me to know that they can go all the
way with Dwan Harris at the controls. We're never gonna be able to say that's not true. If anybody ever says Kansas can't win a chanampionship with the Wan Harris, they will be immediately discredited. They can't do it. That
is true, though he almost did lose them that title game. And speaking of turnovers, Josh Allen is doing everything he can to ensure that it is not the Dolphins coming to Arrowhead next week, because good lord, that's not TCU you're playing out there, Josh, you don't have to turn it over every possession. Let's talk about those turnovers. I really enjoy that I no longer am the one that talks about football the most on this show. You're
not. And you're also so that that game, the Sunday Night football game is on as we're recording this. Obviously you can tell, uh and Landon is a solid forty five seconds behind the rest of us, which is unbelievable because we're on commercial yet. Have they even snapped the ball on third down? Nope? That's that's it. Yeah, you'll never guess what happens on this next Playland and it's it's I'm gonna go ahead and say an interceptions.
It's not the one you think. Wow, Christian Wilkins a fumble you could have guessed, Wow, just a speaking of Kansas had eighteen of the damn thing. Is that a concern or is that just TCU being TCU. I think TC's decently good at causing them, so I'm not. Yeah for me. Also, the first conference game, which is always a little bit weird sometimes, Nick, do you do you make anything of the eighteen turnovers? I was trying to find the stat the turnover statistics for the season. I
think turnovers have been a problem for this team all year. I think it was exacerbated in this game. Yeah, so I don't. I think that that has been one of the biggest problems if you if you can pinpoint. I know we've talked about as this team, you know, on the starting in conference play. On the last show, we're like, gave it a
grade. What was going on with this team in the in the post in the first half of the season, and one of our biggest concerns was that they kind of are are a little bit careless with the ball, and this year they are two hundred and forty seventh. I just found the stat twelve point four turnovers per game, So it's one of their worst s. Mestricks is turnovers. This year. They're always lousy taking care of the ball. It feels like, which they shouldn't be under Bill Soft. They have the
one Harris at point guard, Like, why is this happening? Well, I think TCU being TCU is the biggest reason in this game, because the horn Frogs are really good and everybody acts like, well, they just threw it at a guy unforced. I mean that's also TCU. Like that's the mindset that they instill in their opponents, right, Like they have really really good speed on that team. They're very athletic. This is what Jamie Dixon
teams do. They run fast, they thrive in transition. Tc led the country and transition buckets last year, and then they flipped half their roster over and what are they again this year? Number one in transition scoring. It's what they do. We said on the show, one you can't turn it over because they're gonna punish you in transition, and two you can't foul them because they're good at the line. We saw both of those things come to
fruition in this game. I think the horn Frogs and anyone who's listened to my takes on this show will know that I didn't just start saying this after they almost won an Allen Field House. I think they're the fifth best team in the Big Twelve going into the season. Right now, I think they're fourth. I think they're better than Texas. I think this team deserve to be ranked. I think they are one of the four or five best teams
in the Big Twelve. And I'm glad there's no return game this year, because this is a darn good team that's absolutely gonna take down some of the juggernauts in the conference. Nick tell us about kJ Adams. Yeah, kJ Adams again, it seems like the calling card this year, Hunter Dickinson Good. kJ Adams terrific. He posted his first career double double with eighteen points and ten rebounds in thirty seven minutes. Adams was seven for eight from the
floor. Talk about efficiency. After not having ten rebounds in any of his first eighty five career games, He's now done it twice this week. kJ was also four for five from the free throw line, with most of those makes coming in clutch moments. I always, I always love me a good kJ fiss pump after he makes a huge bucket. He's He's awesome. The whole story this whole storyline's awesome. He's awesome. It's so cool to see that he's really jelling in this KU lineup. And like we've said, they've
got a pretty much a four headed monster. We talked about coming into the season with Kevin McCuller heard to consent into one Harris the Big three, but with him in there, Yeah, this this team is loaded forty offensively or not offensively, just forty deep. kJ is gonna go down as one of the most beloved players in the Bill Self era. And there's so many little things in there that aren't necessarily in his control that are leading to that.
The biggest reason is his personality. He's an energizer bunny, and typically the term energizer bunny is given the guys who are good at providing energy and not really good at basketballing, like Mitch Lightfoot. But Charlie Moore, well, yeah, it was supposed to be the sparklug certain kind energy. He had the energy, but it just didn't ever change. Right. kJ is a force and he seems like he adds something to his game every week. But
Kj's a national champ. Kj's had the triumph of the human spirit with what what he went through personally this year. That's got the fans behind him. kJ is one of the most improved players in the country. Like there's all of these different things that I think blend together to get you truly one of the most liked players in the Bill Self era. He is so good to root for, and I think he's just turning into a terrific basketball player. There's not a lot of weaknesses in his game. As Nick said, at
the beginning of the year, we struggled. He was struggling at the free throw line, and then we saw him struggle to rebound the ball. And what's he gone out and done the last couple of weeks. Those have been his shining points. Like man, the only thing lacking in his game right now is he doesn't have a jump shot. Other than that, we thought that Kansas had a big three at the start of the year, they got a big four. Kj's a stud. You know who else was a stud
in this game? Land and I'll play the music. He's not a white guy, but we may as well play it crazy. Arn Tennyson made eighteen threes and thirteen games total in the town went six vague Good God at allenfield House, as is tradition at this point, just a guy that goes all the way off for really no reason. Seven points per game, and he goes out there and in twenty four and it took him long fricking enough. I was losing my mind figuring out why they weren't doing this. He didn't
score after they switched Towan Harris onto him. Gee would have been nice to try that thirty five minutes. Yeah, I did. That only made sense to do. Good lord, that was that was insane. Yeah he was spectacular, and yes he did have some open looks, but my goodness, was he knocking down anything? Oh yeah, like he is in Two of the six were open. The other side was gonna say, I don't mean to I yeah, almost in sink. Sorry, I didn't mean to wrap. Go ahead, Ryan, and I'll foll up after you, my little
anecdotic, No, go for it. That's pretty much all I wanted to say, just that most of them were off balanced, hand in the face, ridiculous shots. I was just gonna say, uh, you remember a guy that came off the bench last year when TCU beat KU by twenty three in Allen field House, who went three for four from the three point range. And now he plays at McNee State. Remember his name, Oh it was the it was the was it Francisco Farrabello. Shahaa. Wells, he's
averaging nineteen point eight points per game at McNee State. Now, yeah, everybody, everybody that the guy in section twelve he scored seventeen off the bench against in the Ratagans count. Yeah. Yeah, that game was fun. I watched. I looked up on by the Way, Rest in Peace, Matthew loves Ball. That account not being there is really really fricking making my
YouTube highlight watching experience worse. But I found I looked up TCU Kansas highlights and the game was on CBS last year too, So I saw it was from CBS. I assumed it was from the game that just took place, and it was from last year's game. And I watched a couple of minutes of it before I realized what was going on, as like, this isn't the game, Oh that was last year when they just got absolutely shredded in the first twelve minutes. TCU scored thirty seven points in the first thirteen minutes
of that game last year. Wow, it wasn't good. This one almost wasn't good too. TCU narrowly misses out on becoming the first team to ever win back to back games at Allen field House in the Bill Seal era. That's another ridiculous stat By the way, can we talk about that Bill self is in year number twenty one and the same team has never beat him twice in a row at Allen Yeah, that is truly kind of absurd, Like,
I don't quite know how you've gone that long. It is almost like Houston does not have a seventy eight percent a chance to win in Allen field House because it's a very very difficult filling to win in yep, and that can't happen until next year now because they didn't lose. TC's the only home loss last year, So if they lose to anybody this year, it can't be against somebody who It won't be two in a row until next year at the earliest, so that streak will live on. Kevin McCuller sixteen points,
five rebounds, three assists. He was only six for sixteen from the floor, but as he's done all year, found a way to fill up the stat book. So I don't have a lot of analyzation with Kevin McCuller, just wanted to get his stats. We can move on. Nick is posing the question which was worse last year's TCU route at Allen or the year before that's Kentucky route at Allen Boy Kansas. They only lose one home game of year, but when they do they get bombed. I'll give you a third
option. Sure, how about the one the year before that when Shaka Smart came in here and they won by like by like twenty five. I might go with the TCU one because they also wasted Jalen Wilson like thirty one point out there. Yeah, yeah they did, But that can the Kentucky win? Though they fifty one points the first half. That was probably the most onslaught of a first half I've ever seen the Kentucky. I think they said that was the most points Kansas is allowed in the first half at Allen field
House since two thousand and seven. There's the Texas wae. Yeah, the Texas wan was awful. The Nick has nicely posted all three score bugs in here for us. I'm looking at the TCU game last year, so what they then they lost the game in the second half last year, not the first half, because they got it within ten and a half and then they went out and scored twenty two in the second half. That's that one.
Kentucky was over quickly Texas. I think that was kind of a game early in the second half, and then it was only an eight point game a half. Yeah, and that was in front of no fans, and that was really That team was ranked third in the country four weeks before, they weren't ranked at all. The Iowa State COVID cancelation costs them. What would still be an on I looked, I was looking at that box I was looking at the box score, and it's like, why was Alan Fieldhouse only
fifteen percent full? Oh? The global pandemic thingy that happened four years ago, it did. What else happened in the past was Ernest Dowd. They played at Kansas and he didn't do much in his return here. Two free throws, four rebounds, two steals, twenty minutes and missed his only shot. I think he'd be better if it was still at Kansas, But I couldn't help but feel bad for the guy. I don't need a lot of analysis here either, just wanted to point out like he seems like a really
good dude. Found Bill self. They had a little exchange, and really a bummer that that had to be his experience at allan because I'm sure he feels bad about it. But once a Jayhawk, always a Jayhawk, Thanks Ernest. He's probably probably better than in Parker Brown. Oh yeah, no, he's better than Parker Brown. And yeah, all right, let's the new Big twelve schedules. I've seen laundry laundry machines with or washing machines with
better utility than Parker Brown. The new Big twelve schedule is worse than Parker Brown. It sucks. I want Home and Holmes. Yeah, it's just not gonna happen in the new capitalistic Oh what did I say? A version of college. Hey, it's okay. At least I get to watch b Yu come in here and lose by twenty five in a few nights instead of
getting to watch this fantastic matchup twice Land. And you think it's bad, now, just wait four years down the road, and it's basically going to be You're gonna have the Kansas City Legends, the Farm League team that was formerly the Missouri Tigers is now going to be the Chiefs G League team in five years when it's a super talk. I hope that's not true. I so hope. Oh just kidding, not anymore. After reading these two guards stats, go ahead, somebody read me about it. Marco Jackson not a
great night. He was held scoreless, also had two rebounds two assists in twenty four minutes. He was oh a four from the floor. Johnny Furfey and Nick Timberlake did make three each in the second half, which were both pretty badly needed, playing ten and eleven minutes respectively, but not doing a lot else. Jumar McDowell played less than fifteen seconds where he committed a turnover
and was immediately pulled back to the bench by Bill. But yeah, overall, you know, not a lot to not a lot to see here from the two guards. I thought that Timberlake was actually the best, which is wild. Furfee was on the floor last. He also had four fouls Furfey did, so that wasn't great. I don't know why. Jamari McDowell just doesn't play like he has such a lousy leash. Timberlake being productive and legitimately giving them a couple of big shots was good. Like that was good.
Though they can't count on to be a fifteen points a game night, so hopefully they can count on a couple of buckets per big twelve game that go a long way. Yeah, and I don't actually even disagree that Timberlake was the best of the four. I actually think he probably did give some of
the best minutes. I think we're starting to get to the point where this is kind of what we can expect from Furfey and Timberlake is ideally they each hit about a three and maybe they get another layup or a couple of free throws, and that's about it. Furfey has the highest ceiling offensively of any of these four. I think Jackson has the highest ceiling probably overall. But I don't think you're gonna get real scoring out of any of these guys this
year. Well, and I'm just gonna say it again and Ryan go ahead after this. I'm just gonna say it on the point of Almarco Jackson, he's not playing in his in his true role, which is to play the primary point suard position. He's a true point. He's a point. He's a point. That's the observation. Yeah, yeah, and El Marco this was the game for him to posted on Twitter that this was his his big game was coming up, like this was a fast matchup. There was one
hundred and what is that math? One hundred and sixty four combined points in this game and he had zero, Like this was a matchup for him wherever speed and ability to take the ball away and transition opportunities was how it was gonna be won. And he goes out there and doesn't do anything. Like just brutal, brutal performance from l Marco. His defense wasn't good either, like, and that had been pretty solid throughout the year. So he's coming
off the best game of his career. This is probably the worst one. You're you gotta mix bag, right. It's like when Timberlake went off against Yale and we were like, is this gonna be Nope, It's not same with El Marco. It appears at this point I think self plays him a little too much. If we're being honest, I think Jamori mcdala should play more. It is irrelevant, but I have to put it in the notes somewhere. White Flag. Parker Brown had a block that turned into a bucket
for the horn Frogs anyway, and nothing else in five minutes. They did not show his mom, which was which was sad. That's the only reason give mc no we read about Kevin mcculluor we just didn't analyze yep, Oh well I was distracted by something else. Then that's on me. You're probably watching the football game, which is more exciting. Shocking. One of us made the show actively worse and weirder. That's never happened. That absolutely never
happens. Any final takeaways. The Jayhawks are one to zero. We all said after the Marquette game, Hey, they're gonna win ten in a row and ding ding ding ding. I don't have a bell on my soundboard, but how about that, guys, that's ten straight dubs, isn't it? Or is it nine? Oh? It's nine? Oh, I hope I just didn't jinx it. They're thirteen in the one. Oh no, that's nine. Okay, Well, we said they'd win a lot in a row. They need to. They need to get off to a good start in
Big twelve play. They need to have six out of seven in the win column at that point in the Big twelve season at minimum. I think because the second half schedule is really tough, especially considering they just have two guaranteed l's already bolted in there when they huge games per ESPN and Iowa State depending on who you ask, Good Lord, that's a joke, and Oklahoma on the road too, and Baylor losses everywhere. ESPN has Kansas going nine to
eight the rest of the way. That makes sense. That's happened so many times. Bill self has literally never guess, let me guess, Houston's going seventeen to no. Bill self has literally never won fewer than eleven games in Big twelve play. N ESPN says Kansas is gonna win nine more. You know what, good starts conference play here for the Hawks, and I think they're gonna be better than ten and eight shockingly, I mean, I would
hope. I think that this was, all things considered, one of the five or six ish most difficult games on the Big twelve schedule, and they won it barely. I think that this game is gonna get better as the year goes on. I think TCU is gonna finish with a good record in Big twelve play. I think TCU looks like a five seed, if not better than that, and uh, like, come on, they're ranked behind B one and teams like that. There's no chance that I'm betting on BYU
winning anything against TCU right now, not in this league. Also, this is like pretty much exactly what I thought would happen, is that Kansas would play up to their Big Twelve opponents. Yep, and it was still close. Because I agree Ryan, I think TCU is like, at absolute worst, like a sixth seed, and I think they're gonna finish much better than that. But yeah, I think they are not going to really have too
much a problem winning a bunch more Big Twelve games. This is what happens whenever you play against teams that play crappy schedules, you don't know how good they are. TCU hadn't been challenged at any point this year. Really, they had lost a couple of games, but we hadn't gotten to see them against the ranked team yet, and it turns out they're pretty good. On the flip side, we hadn't seen BYU against anyone with a pulse yet this
year and didn't go so good. Nick any closing thoughts Thanks to Brett Smith, the head official for You Got Your Veno Name? Yeah, yes, Ku fans checks clear. Now send the next one for the Chiefs game next weekend. Fifty three percent from the floor, thirty six percent from three to seventy four percent of the line, and plus twelve on the glass. Those are all solid numbers that will play, but a lot of turnovers. Need to clean that up before they hit the road this week. Big twelve games
for real this time because we have conference games to recap. This is our second attempt to do this. Because I accidentally said the wrong word. It definitely wasn't even close to the right word. So now we ejaculated when I meant to say rejuvenate. And I'm excited about how we have two extra Big twelve games to talk about. Are you guys as excited as I am? No, I can't possibly be. I don't think. Well, let's let's get on with it. Number three Houston eighty nine, West Virginia fifty five.
How about that? ESPN says told just the oh weird how the best team of all time is ranked three, but Houston is the last remaining undefeated team in college basketball? They are fourteen and zher, I do think they're good. I do not think they're anywhere close to the best team of all time obviously, And I don't think they's good as the metrics say. Twenty points from LJ. Cryer. Every single one of the stats in this game
represents a total obliteration of the Mountaineers. Nick. How many Big twelve games is what Virginia going to win this year? Maybe three or four? I think I take an under on four. They're bad, but I think if they play Uca're gonna win three of them. BYU I think they're winning two or three of those at least. Yeah, I think four is probably the right answer. By the way, Michigan State, who Ken Palm has one spot ahead of Kansas, is all set to lose their sixth game. They're
down by fifteen to Northwestern a halftime. They're gonna lose. They're gonna be nine and six, and they are ahead of thirteen to one Kansas on Ken Palm Yay number eleven, Oklahoma seventy one, Iowa State sixty three. Nick. Iowa State was also beloved in the rankings. We all smartly said, Hey, their non cone schedule sucks. Don't fall in love looking pretty smart
through one game. Yeah, only one other player on either team scored were the twelve points, and that was Oklahoma's Javian McCullum, who finished with fifteen. The Sooners made ten threes. I would State is eleven to three and they've lost to only three teams with any sort of a polls they played. Yeah, Iowa State, I don't I think Iowa Well, I'll give you my big twelve tiers in a little bit, but I think Iowa State is a whole bunch of math and I think they're gonna have a losing record this
year because they haven't played anyone. They haven't beaten anybody at all this year. Somebody who really hasn't either. But how about this, This was impressively He's Kansas State seventy seven, UCF fifty two. Well, guys, we don't think Kansas State is particularly good, but we predicted that this might happen a few times to UCF this year, which is just I'm absolutely getting baptized by really physical and strong Big twelve opponents. The Wildcats put a beat down
on them and controlled this game throughout. Twenty five points for Tyler Perry. How good are the Cats? I think They're still about as good as I thought early in the year, which is totally fine, but not as good as last season. I think they're solid team. I think they're gonna win like eight or nine Big twelve games, maybe ten. But I think they're very much a middle of the conference team. I don't think Nick went who wins more Big twelve games? Kansas State or Cincinnati, Probably k State?
Kse State? Yes? Who wins more games? Kansas State or Iowa State? Iowa State push? Yeah, they both feel about eight and ten. Who wins more games Kansas State or BYU Probably Kansas State, Yes, Yu, I think that one. I'd listen to that one. I don't know how good. I don't know how what good really means. I know this them's good. Number eighteen Baylor seventy five, Oklahoma State seventy in overtime. Landon, we talked about how some of the maybe Kansas was the favorite that
was in the most danger. It probably was actually Baylor. I know a couple favorites lost, but Bears avoid a disaster against a really bad Oklahoma State team by a very slim margin. Yeah. The Cowboys, who I don't think any of us think very highly of. They led this game by four with two minutes left, they gave up a four point play and blew it for good with a minute left to overtime. Ray J. Dennis, who converted that play, led the Bears with eighteen points. Baylor was a very
Kansas against VCU two of fifteen three. Oklahoma State is very Chiefs as a couple of weeks ago eight and six. Well, then Chiefs actually eight and six. That's horrible. Maybe I think they might have been or they nine to five and then we got the six. I don't know. Yeah, I think I think Baylor is really good. I think winning this was in still Water, correct, Yep, Yeah, winning down there as hard as Jayhawk fans know. But yeah, I mean Baylor, they get a they
get a close win in overtime. I still think Baylor's really good. But we'll see kind of a warning sign here, warning shot, I should say. Well, the biggest favorite that went down was Cincinnati seventy one, number twelve BYU sixty. Nick, tell me about Yeah, I see you've already discovered some of the booby traps in here. Get your Utah jokes in now, sir, go ahead and tell me all about this upset loss for the
Cougars. Yeah. The Cougars, who are top five team in a net, led throughout the first half, but they scored just nine points over the last twelve minutes to lose their Big twelve debut as a ten point favorite. But Kim Palm said there were six in the metrics. I don't know how that happened. I wrote that this morning that they're a top five team in the NET, and I said were a top five team. They still freaking are They're still fourth in the NET. I don't get it. Thirteen threes
and still shot just twenty eight percent from deep. They took forty six threes. In eighteen two's Cincinnati got seventeen points from a Russian white sinner named Victor Lakkin. Do you think he no, no, no, no, I no, I don't believe you think he likes American food? Yeah, I think he probably does. He's going to school in Cincinnati, so sure he likes Chili. He's trying that Skyline Chili. It's awful. Probably wants them go back to Russian. I think that the Chilean I think Chili in general
is a war crime of itself. But yes, good take, good take. Lana's not gonna like that. Yeah, good take mostly has a beard. Okay, but my dad's chili is s tier beans are just so mid beans. Beans are mid landon has a beard, and bearded men love chili one hundred out of one hundreds. So BYU, guys. BYU's best win is North Carolina State, who is undefeated in ACC play, but they're not
ranked. Arizona State is their second best win. I guess they did beat San Diego State by a few points at home, but this is not an impressive resume in the slightest. They are ranked what they are in the net because they beat Bellermine by fifty points and they beat Wyoming by forty and they
beat Evansville by forty one. Like, let's not act like they're not getting the same treatment that Houston and Iowa State are beat up on a bunch of lousy quad four teams, and your muscles look really good when you're flexing after beating a twelve year old than one on one. But they're gonna have to
play better teams. And Cincinnati isn't by any stretch thought to be one of the powerhouses of the Big twelve, and they took them to school in the second half, so you know, we'll see as Landa and Neck talked about much more important things. Yes, by the way, Texas Tech seventy eight, number twenty, Texas sixty seven. Boy, hold on, guys getting a phone call it says fraud potentially. Oh wow, it's Texas and Rodney
Terry. Do you believe that we have gotten so many things wrong on this podcast over the years, But all of us were one hundred percent dead on about Rodney Terry because Texas is a big fat fraud. Yeah, that seems one hundred percent right. They do not look good. They they don't deserve to be ranked, not even close at this point. Their best win is an LSU team that is eight and five right now. This is not a top twenty five basketball team. They're not well coached. The coaching didn't elevate
them last year, just prevented them from falling through the floor. And now they're committed to a coach wherever. They could have thrown a lot of resources at anybody else. And to be honest, they will when they get tired of Rodney Terry. But what a weird hire that just never made sense.
This team is worse, a lot worse. Yeah, I don't know if it makes any sense, but this is it kind of does though, because it's the most Texas thing, Like, it's still Texas Texas under everybody is a very talented team that recruits at a really high level but just cannot win very many games very impressively. Yes, and it's always been that way, and it works that way in football too, I guess, because how'd the playoff go until this year? They're actually they were pretty good and they lost
to another pretty good team. But yes, Pop Isaac's had twenty one points. I think he's being investigated for something, isn't he. Yeah, there's something going on there. The Red Raiders controlled the second half. Texas got twenty from tyree'se Hunter. But that's it's so much worse than that. Sexually assaulting a minor accused of why oh man, why is he playing? How are you allowed to play with that? Well, as of right now, it's an accusation, it's a civil lawsuit that has been fun. Yeah,
meant you gotta sit that guy. You think it was it was late less Okay, No, okay, okay, I read in the Bahamas. It was last year in the Bahamas. Yeah, the girl was seventeen. Why what are we doing? Man? What are we doing? Bro? Good question? You could ask that about just about anything in life, but don't. Upon learning of the allegations, the matter was immediately unproperly reported to the university's time. It gets worse. I never said that statement a Texas Tech
booster, but alcoholic drinks for Isaac's and a teammate. They were in your room with two girls ages seventeen and sixteen. Awesome. Awesome, Yeah that seems and you know what the you know what the eight is gonna say whenever he's asked about it by surprise, Yeah, yeah, it's not our fault. Yeah, surprise. He's playing big. Texas got the best type of people. I'm telling you. It's just a line of them, big twelve standing speed. This is all in a line number one. We got a
seven way tie Kansas, Kansas State. I couldn't guess the should have been a tie in there or something. I thought somebody was gonna make a seven way joke, which sounds a little intimidating for my liking, But you know not, after what we just discussed. I think it's just that's true. That's true. Oh no, I won't go there. In a seven way tie in basketball terms is Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, Oklahoma, Cincinnati,
Zexons at Tech in Houston. They're all one and oh and tied for eighth tc U U, c F O, s U I, s U B, y U U T and wv U and in fourteenth place at least should be in fourteenth places, which West Virginia they should just be here. We go right there there you go. Yeah, we that those other teams land in river eight through thirteen. We'll just go ahead and throw West Virginia in the basement there where they belong other games. You know who else belongs
in the basement. Gigantic fraud number twenty two Old Miss. If ole Miss and Backs displayed each other, it would just explode. And yeah, the Chris Beard Bowl of being filled with fraud, I know that's shocking. Ole Miss entered undefeated against the schedule, so bad that Kelvin Sampson would say, I'm underwhelmed looking at it. And they got absolutely exposed in a huge way at the hands of number five Tennessee the volunteers Clauberd Chris Beard's rebels. What
a statement ninety to sixty four, also number six Kentucky. They erased an eleven point deficit by coming back to beat Florida in Gainesville eighty seven eighty five. Antonio Reeves gave them nineteen points. Their seven foot center Bradshaw Aaron Bradshaw had had a block and a go ahead three in the final minute, so they might be figuring out their problems too. Who is your pick to win the conference? Of No, that's the PAC twelve. Who is your pick
to win? It just means more? Uh? Nick? Do you agree that Auburn, Kentucky, and Tennessee seem to be the best three teams and then at tay Kentucky's probably gonna win it? I agree? Uh? I think you guys are sleeping on Tennessee. A bet Rick Barnes can win a lot of regular season games. He is the Bob Stoops of college basketball. But Kentucky has the most talent we'll see. Tennessee is a one seed right now. By the way, if the tournament's today, like their resume is
loaded. They only have losses. The team's currently ranked in the top seven. Yeah, they're a really solid team, but I think Kentucky's probably the favorite. I agree not you're Oh, I guess I shouldn't read two things. Go for it, somebody take this. Not your pick to win the SEC is Arkansas. They lost by thirty two at home to a good number twenty five Auburn team eighty three to fifty one. The second half score is
forty six to twenty one on its own. If this game had instead been against Kansas, not Arkansas, but just normal Kansas, why would the Razorbacks have managed to score ninety six instead of fifty one because theas seventy three to seventy two. Yeah, I don't know score out there, Eric Musselman and his nipples. And it wouldn't even matter if it was men's basketball or football or I guess they did win the women's basketball game in the NIT at Allen
Field House. That's you ever wonder what would it look like if Kansas got to play a championship game at Allen Field House. Well you saw it, and shockingly they won and Stripes. The high strant team to lose on once this week was once again number seven Marquette, who lost their fourth game of the year already, this time at Seaton Hall, seventy eight to seventy five. The Golden Eagles are just two in and two in Big East play. On a scale of one to ten, I can't believe you keep getting these
landmines. The actual so the actual statement that I wrote there says, on a scale of one to ten, how big of a bitch is Shaka smart? And the answer is obviously a sixty five because in addition to playing defense, he's also a major and he is. That's I'm not a huge fan of Shaka, but I don't know if I'd go that far. You guys are You guys are much much, much, much much nicer to Shotga than I will be. He is a dweeb and a geek and all of those things, and he deserves els. Oh it's my turn, isn't it.
Rounding into form is number eight North Carolina. At least until their coach boobs it up in March, they look like the favorite in the ACC after taking down number sixteen Clemson on the road sixty five to fifty five. Armando Baycot had fourteen points and sixteen rebounds for the tar Heels, who handed Clemson their third straight loss. If you take out games against Queens and Radford, so basically they've lost the last three good teams they've played. Also, despite being
a huge favorite. Number fourteen Duke narrowly survived a ghastly awful Notre Dame team in South Bend, but it was a one score game with two minutes left. Who wins the ACC you and c Yeah, I didn't say that a week ago, but I'm starting to become more convinced. That's a really impressive win for them. I think they're the best team. I don't know if they'll get there. Either way, I can make fun of Duke or North Carolina's coaches for not taking them to what it should have been championship. I
guess I win either way. It was not a good day for mid majors not named Gonzaga, as the previously undefeated Number nineteen James Madison lost at Southern mist to fall to fourteen and one Colorado State. Number thirteen Colorado State lost by five at Utah State. Also number seventeen Florida Atlantics, a weird season continues with a seventy to sixty eight loss to Charlotte. Four losses for the Owls already. Three of those are against Bryant, Florida Gulf Coast and Charlotte.
So I have no idea what to make of any of those teams. I'm kind of thinking Florida Atlantic's not that good. Florida Atlantic's resume is gonna get them like a seven or an eight seed, and they're gonna be terrifying. Yeah, not necessarily that i'd want to play them, But I don't think they're as good as people thought they were going to be coming into the
year. No, it's hard. Like we see that right UCLA a couple of years ago, Like there's always a Final four team that brings everybody back, and everybody just annoints to them a preseason top five team and doesn't work that way. It goes to show there's a lot of variable luck in the NCAA tournament. Shocking Nick telling me about Gonzaga, so O, Ryan Camp, in case you were worried about number twenty four Gnzega falling out of the
top twenty five and leaves in their long streak. They squashed Pepperdine in San Diego by a combined fifty three points this week to start two to zero in league play. Hey saw that one coming to Lease Well caps that one for Coe's absolute rotting pieces of ass that get to play this stupid freaking schedule, and they're gonna roll and keep their AP streak and keep their conference streak,
and it means nothing. I have found nineteen ninety two Lincoln pennies in my jeans pocket that are worth more than these WCC titles that they get every year. Horrendous, horrendous Gonzaga, Why do they play in this conference? It doesn't amount to anything. Yeah, in the age of realignment and TV money, you'd think that Gonzaga basketball would at least try to get in on like a tiny bit of that somewhere, right, And I think they're kind of
trying, aren't they. They just they can't because they don't have a football team. Maybe, Hey, here's an idea, rally the troops with like San Diego State and the PAC two and try to go form some kind of league out there that at least be better than this. Yeah. I always thought Gonzaga should be in the PAC twelve, And that would have only been good for a couple of years, because now that league's falling apart. Speaking
of, the PAC twelve is led by Oregon and Arizona State. They're both four and oh number ten Arizona is the only ranked team in the league. They beat you tatas day one game back. But the biggest story from this conference is four and ten California going into poly Pavilion and beating UCLA by nine. I'm sorry, what here are Col's wins this year? Cal is five and ten. Now they have beaten Saint Thomas of Minnesota by five, cal
State, Bakersfield, Gonzaga opponent Santa Clara. You see San Diego and Ucla. Find me the one that doesn't belongh Yeah, that's that's bad and atrocious if you're UCLA, Yes, horrible, no tournament for them. That's my turn now. Also, Ucla is Gonzaga's second best win, not joking, that's true. Number twenty one Wisconsin scored eighty eight points in a regulation over nebrasket Ball, which has to be a new record. They're the only undefeated
team in the Big Ten. On Friday Night, Number one Producer Vive, Number nine Illinois and entertaining eighty three to seventy eight game the Fighting Line I held Zach Edie to just ten points, but not having Terrett Shannon Junior was too much to overcome for. You can just count as should just count as a win they give Okay, we're gonna talk at the same time. I'm sorry, sorry, I cut you off. Go for it speaking of too big to overcome Louisville. But go ahead, Ryan, What are you going
to say? Was all I was? All I was gonna say was we should just go ahead and give Illinois a win. Purdue can have theirs two, but Illinois should get one for holding zach eety to just ten points. That's pretty good. Louisville has only won one since November twenty ninth, and it was against Gonzaga competition Pepperdine. Pepperdine by twenty two. They are oh to six, and that time frame otherwise owen three in league play with a
point differential of minus fifty six. If Gonzaga beats Pepperdine by less than twenty two, it should be counted as an l Yes, undred percent, Like it is pretty hilarious. How the answer they're all like bad trivia questions. It's always a Gonzaga opponent, is the answer. Oh, look they're showing on the TV. It's not even the worst league in the country. It really truly is not like the MIAC and the Swack exist, and those are
like miles worse than the West Coast Conference. Yet this is still the case. Yes, and they're showing on TV. Josh Allen clearly putting his hand out about and says, the refs is rolling roll that clock. In case you're wondering if refs have gotten any better since the last time that you watched sports, they haven't gotten any better. And now they lost to have money on the game. So yes, they're so frustrating all of them. Ranked teams to lose since the last show. A lot of teams here. Number
seven Marquette lost the Seaton Hall, and we're not Illinois lost Purdue. Number twelve b Uyu lost to Cincinnati, but they didn't lose in the women department, that's for sure. Number sixteen Clemson lost to UNC. Number seventeen Florida Atlantic lost to Charlotte. Number nineteen. James Madison, somehow is still alive, lost the Southern Mississippi. Wasn't he part of the South? I was gonna say, I thought James Madison. I thought James Madison died of chronics
and oh wow, this is horrible. James Madison died a very bad death, it says according to the James Madison Library website, he was confied to his room for chronic and severe attacks from liver dysfunction. So I always thought that that, but that's actually fake news because what actually killed James Madison was the University of Southern Mississippi. Number twenty Texas lost to Texas Tech, got
it, but also enjoy did not lose in the women department. Yes, but enjoy hearing Texas's name there because you ain't hearing him the rest of the year on that segment. Because this is where ranked teams go. Num. Number twenty two Ole Miss lost to Tennessee and number twenty three Providence lost to
Creighton. That something really frickin bonkers just happened in the football game. Sorry, I'm trying to figure out what happened as the refs, the refs are all trying to sort it out, as both teams are pointing point I. I brought the message to the masses that the refs of ben Bad always are bad and then never going to be good. And Ryan has taken that and ran for about twenty miles into the distance that literally nobody knows what's happening.
I don't think it is a first, doun I think it's going the other way. Nobody knows, and the raser is looking at you are like, oh crap. This is our job, isn't it. We're supposed to figure this out. Yeah, lot, Something that Landon did figure out is winning and pick them. Congrats or you had a good week in pick up the deficit, Yeah, the deficit is down. After you went ten and two and Nick and I went eight and four, the deficit is down. It's
gotten smaller. Congratulations, Hey by two games. Let's go all right, I'm blowing the airhorn now and then we're gonna do ask RCB. All right, So you guys did a good job with the questions. Whenever there's twenty questions, it's a lot. Whenever there's three, there's not enough. But we have nine today that's pretty good. And one of them is not about beautiful women with tattoos. Nick, I gave you a week off while I reset tough scene for Landon and not get to think about that for a couple
more days. At J two Wills, what does our roster look like this year if Grady Dick had come back to school? Oh, I love hypothetics. I okay, is everybody still here. You gotta think that Artario Morris or Nick Timberlake doesn't transfer here. Probably Timberlake. Well, Artaria Morris is not here anyway, so I think Timberlake doesn't come here, And oh too bad. I'm so say gotta say, that's that's a big l That's that's
terrible Grady Dick. They could have had Grady Dick and instead they just had I actually think the timeline wise, it's maybe more likely that Johnny Furfey doesn't come. Yeah, that's also true. Or Furfey is just essentially almost red shirting this year. Yeah, that could be the case as well. But nonetheless, I think that would be an incredible piece. Yes, that's the piece they need, right, They need a shooter. That's that's it.
Grady Dick would be shooting forty on threes. He did last year. That's what Timberlake did for two years at thousand. By the way, looking for that to start here at Dick underscore Taser, who is currently the worst person in sports? I want you guys to answer that before I give you the second half of what he said. Does Dan Snyder count He's not in sports anymore? He died, He did Nicky got anybody off the top of your head. No, he didn't die. I've got nick on that twice.
I just be like they threw him out. Well, I don't know if owners even count Chris Beard. Well, that's not a horrible answer. I was gonna say refs, but I don't think refs count. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with Craft. He's in sports enough to count. Wayne Kerr says, why is it Aaron Rogers? That is exactly what Robert Kraft can be described as. He's the single weirdest person. No, Aaron Rodgers are pretty lousy, Like he just keeps getting worse. Tyry killed his shop to pass.
Look like MVS on that play, they have already called the pass interference and removed the ball on my screen. Sir, you're still waiting for that flag and land, and I don't even know if the Bills have given second three. We're all over the blaze and none of us are streaming either, which is amazing. Wayne, I'm just making Wayne also says, if you were given the opportunity to take Rogers out, but you have to go off yourself in the process. You guys are doing that for the good of humanity,
right, just making sure you guys are selfless, good guys. No way I'm doing that. That's I mean, I you think I'm beating Aaron Rodgers in any sort of physical fight. Well, I'm assuming you're getting a sniper rifle sometime, hey, and or or a freak No, I almost made a Ryan alone would blow you in half. Ryan might get beat up by a group of fifth grade girls. Hey, you know what, I would. Don't be sexist, sir, I would also get beat up by
a group of fifth grade boys. You'd get killed fifth grade boys. Yeah, that's true. It wouldn't go good. I'll stay in my house, all one hundred and eighteen pounds of me here at boar shirts. Why does hundred Dickinson do the opening tip when he only seems to have a four inch vertical How about kJ that's a that'd be a wise idea, idea interesting? Actually, I mean Hunter has five inches on But that's the problem. Do we know for sure that Hunter Dickinson I know, yeah, I know,
I know, I know experienced this game in real time. Now, you're not gonna want to after after seeing what what Tua turned the ball over just did and Miami is coming to Arrowhead next week. Folks. Yeah, I'm actually I actually that's gonna be fun. That'sna be way more fun than Pittsburgh. I I'd like wins, and then the Chiefs are probably going on wins exclusively. Well, we've seen a lot of those, as Hunter Dickenson's h if they both jumped and put their like, tried to reach the tallest point
they could. U would und Nigginson reach a taller point than kJ Adams. That's probably not true. kJ probably gets higher. Then then they should they should do whoever that person is. Yeah, we figured it out. Do it Bill at Elliott Ruson h Furfee is the best bench option. That's my feeling. That's how it's going to be. Nothing is going to change. Do you agree? Yeah? I do. Yeah, he's the sixth man.
I don't know what that says about this being the sixth man, but I definitely think he is the He is the the sixth man on this team. Also also says Nick, I'll send you twenty dollars if you do not groan when Ryan says it's time for ASCARCB. I don't know if you groaned. I didn't. I don't remember if he did or not. Yeah, that's true. You've groaned in ASCARCB. You didn't groan because of it. You also didn't groan because I'm sparing you a tattoo question today, couple from
at Preston skirtsik a lot of controversy with yesterday's flagrant. So what are some of the most memorable controversial calls you've seen at home? Sphees travel comes to But are there any others? Yeah, the walk Thomas Robinson's block. Some people think that was a foul. It was. I'm not saying anything on that one. I'm trying to think of who what other controversial calls we've seen? What other ones have we seen? I eject calls from my memory most
of the time unless they're like the worst five calls I've ever seen. So I don't remember any of these at Allen Field House. There was a big one at Ames a couple of years ago or a few years back, when Elijah Johnson didn't get called for a charge, and that one was supremely controversial. Not an arrowhead, but still none the less or arrow, not an Allen, not at Alan, but still nonetheless a call. Good question on that, I'm gonna have to think about that because I love questions like that.
Also says was it reassuring to see Timberlake do well in extended minutes yesterday? He didn't score much, but he did play hard and avoided having too many mistakes he did was he bridged the gap for him there when al Marco was on the bench, And I'm not sure you can say they were worse with el Marco on the bench. Yeah. I think Timberlake put in like a solid shift. But he still can't shoot the ball, which is puzzling because I thought that'd be one of the things he could do at Stefan Timmy
seventeen. Is this the softest Kansas gets all the calls outcry by the other eleven Big twelve fan bases in recent history? Well, it's thirteen now, thirteen teams now, but yes, it's pretty bad. At least this fee walk off had a legitimate gripe. This one was by all measures a flay grint. Yeah. I agree. Two more here, one from at Cope Fraud. I know l Marco is our best defender out of the three options, but the offense is somewhat smoother when timber Laker Furfey is in the game
because you actually have to guard them from three. If al Marco can't shoot, doesn't it make more sense to play more minutes of the two that can? Interesting take? I have a thought I want you guys thoughts first, Nick, Sorry, what was the question? Oh, for God's sake, Basically, the offense runs smoother with for Fee or Timberlake because they can actually shoot. Therefore you have to defend them rather than with Jackson out there.
Therefore, shouldn't they play more? Yeah? Sure? My answer on this is ten twenty on Sunday night, and I have worked tomorrow. So my answer on this is I go back to what we talked about with Uh. Whenever you're putting together your backyard basketball team, you got a couple guys who are really good at one thing, so it means you got some more room to give with others. There are guys on this team that can play defense.
Elmarco being the best defender, he's still like, at best, the third or fourth best defender, even with that being what he's best at. Yes, I would rather have guys like Furfey or Timberlake. For what it's worth, Timberlake hasn't been great shooting the ball, but there's at least he's guarded as as you pointed out here. Yes, I think that makes some sense. You already have plenty of defense on the floor whenever al Marco is in the game or out of the game, so I'm perfectly fine sacrificing his
defense for more offense Landon. Is that fair? Yeah, I think that is. I think regardless, the two guys that have the highest ceilings should are el Marco Jackson and Johnny Furfy, and I do think that should earn them the most playing time, especially when Nick Timberlake is really giving you like max five points most of the time. And the final question for Matt ky tweets the News it is a three parter. Number one rang the refs of
all major sports you watch from worst to least worst. The good way to put that. I think the absolute worst refs on Planet Earth or NFL refts. Yep, they are just indescribably bad, inconsistent, bad favoritism, all sorts of nonsense. They also have the weirdest replay rules of the sports. I agree with that. I think they are the worst. I think college
basketball is second worst. I think college football might be worse. In college basketball, but that's too Yeah, probably no. I think you actually are pretty definitively right. Then again, I don't watch a lot of like for degenerates only level college basketball, and I do watch some degenerates only college football.
Basketball is more or less easier to ref than football. There's fewer rules, there's fewer players, there's fewer things that are happening away from the ball that are impacting the play, whereas in football you gotta keep it's a harder job. But they call crap on stuff that doesn't even come close to impacting plays, And then they don't call things when a guy gets his face mass
ripped around that clearly does impact the play. In basketball, the bulk of the calls seemingly are coming from moments where it's right at the center of the action. Most of the time, example the flagrant yesterday, center of the action. Whether you agree or not, at least the refs look at the right thing. That's the way I see it. I'd go one NFL worst,
two college or college football slightly better. Then I'd probably go, boy, are we really gonna sit here and say college basketball refs or better than NBA refs. They're both awful. I think I think NBA refs are better. Though you're a soccer guy, soccer refs also suck. They are. Soccer is one of those that, for the most part, is pretty easy to ref because the only like set rule mostly is like off sides or the
goalie being off his line for a penalty shootout or a penalty kick. Otherwise it's mostly just like, you know, the level of physicality on a tackle or off a set piece or something. So I do think soccer refs are not atrocious. However, they do probably have the easiest gig and there's also only one of them on the field. People are talking about. People are talking about how the only reason the NFL put the Chiefs playoff game on Peacock
is because Roger Goodell wants all the Swifties to pay for Peacock. That's pretty not the and it will happen. Not the worst take, really not the worst take. Two more from kg tweets and news. Nobody seems to be talking about Emmanuel Miller's flop that they got two points out of. Yeah, I talked about that. It was bad, not as consequential, but still it's They're always going to focus on the big thing and which of the following, And this is not a particularly pleasant question, but here we are.
Which of the following would be the biggest injury loss Dickinson, Harris or mccullor Dickinson. Yes, yes, El Marco could play the point and you take a step back, but not a huge step back if Harris steps out. McCuller has been their best player this year, so that would be a big loss. But they are better prepared to replace a wing than a center. Losing Dickenson means starter Parker Brown. It actually probably means kJ goes back to the five, but that would be a massive loss. Yeah, they have
no sihlistic replacement for Dickinson. At least they could have someone that could approximate the role of Kevin mccullar Dwan Harris, even if not as well. I think that's a good way to put it. If you ever have any ask Garcaps, use the Twitter hashtag ask RCB and ask questions about nick and tattooed women because I want that to spread. That's fun, They're pretty funny.
Let's preview a game, road game number two Kansas at Central Florida. This is a conference game and it boy, does it feel weird Wednesday, January tenth, at six o'clock PM. While it's temperatures plunging here this week in the Midwest, k you will be enjoying sunny Orlando for at least a couple of days. So you and two the University of oh Hey, Nick, go for it. Take it away, man. I guess I can the University of Central Florida Knights Commuter School enter at nine and four overall owen win
in the league play. Their best win is probably Lipscum or South Dakota State that they lost by sixteen to Miami in twenty five to k State. Kim Pum has them ranks just a few spots lower than Indiana. That kind of sounds absurd, but bet the Knight's best player is six to four wing Jalen Sellers, who averages eighteen points. He played a ball state for two years and shot forty five percent three but this year he's shooting just twenty six percent
on almost six foot temps per game. It feels like another Travian Tennyson situation could be on deck. The point guard is Darius Johnson, as if anyone knowed or cared, yes, tallest player is center Ibrahima Diallo from Senegal. He's seven feet tall and blocks more than two shots per game. He averages six and six. The fore man of six to seven Marsillis Avery, who's the team's best three point shooter and adds eleven more points per night. So
here's the thing that I found out about UCF. I was really struggling with my TCU notes because their metrics were great and their schedule wasn't very good. UCF matches what they are. They're a middle of the run team and a middle of the in the middle of the run metrics. Here, UCF is
an elite shot blocking team. They force a lot of turnovers. They have excellent size, and they have been really good on the defensive end, but their strength of schedules outside the top two thirty nationally, and even then they really haven't. They haven't beaten anybody that good in their limited chances. They've also been good on the offensive glass, which is mainly because they miss shots. However, the weaknesses, and there's lots of them, are all stemming
on the offensive side of the ball. They have a very porch. They just threw a bunch of I don't know. I think Nick just has a seizure. What what why? Like, like, what are you doing now? I'll try to figure this together here. Okay, they've also been good on the offensive. They have a very poor team shooting percentage. They barely shoot thirty two from three and and they barely shoot sixty eight percent from the line. Seventy Kansas and Central Florida have never played. Thank goodness, we're
out of this all right. So my analysis here ESPN says Kansas has a fifty one percent chance to win this game. I suspect they'll be favored by five is or So, what do you think happens Jayhawks going on the road. I think Kansas gets their lead up to about thirty and then takes their foot off the gas and wins by about eighteen. Wow. Okay, so I think they were just like seventy eight to sixty. I think Kansas is gonna win pretty handling. I say eighty to sixty. I mean, in
a vacuum, they're a lot better than this team. But like, I don't know, they haven't like Indiana. I know that was a tougher atmosphere that probably impacts things a little bit. UCF's gonna be sold out it's one of the bigger home games in school history, so we'll see. I can't imagine that atmosphere is going to be like Assembly Hall. And overall, Kansas is a lot better than this team. We saw him not even put up much of a fight against Kansas State. So I'm gonna go out and say
Kansas wins seventy eight to sixty four. But I really don't have an idea of what I expect to happen in this game. Well, we'll have to see. If Kansas loses, though, it would be bad. This is probably the worst team in the Big Twelve, right, Yeah, it's this or West Virginia. This would be one of the two worst this and they play both those teams on the road, which is not you know, there's no gimmes in this conference at all, But this is the sort of game
that they should win. This is we talk forever how there are no gimme games in the Big Twelve, like how Duke gets to go play Georgia Tech, or how you know North Carolina gets to play Louisville. Well, this is as close to that as you're gonna have in this conference. You gotta win. Should be a stale atmosphere and a really really inferior opponent. So
we'll see. Nick has just blown up these predictions. So I get I get what he's saying on mostly though it's it's relatively easy to parse keyword most We'll see how good we are this whole time. Number three Houston at Iowa State the Battle of the Metrics? Do the Cougars remain the only unbeaten team in the nation? Uh? Houston wins? Yeah? Yeah, I'm also gonna say Houston's winning this game. Yeah, this is much more of I don't think Iowa State's very good than anything else, but yes, I think
they win. Kansas State at West Virginia, give me the Mountain Mamas as Nick has listened as tang at Meth Virginia, give me the Wildcats. Yeah, I'm gonna go Okay State. Unfortunately, Texas at Cincinnati. I will go with the Longhorns here to bounce back. This feels like you're oh to one team that beats a one on oh squad. I'm not a big fan, but I think they win. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Oklahoma State at Texas Tech, who are so boring that Nick hasn't even put any
sort of interesting facts about them. I don't know. This feels like the one that we're gonna get wrong. I'll go with the Red Raiders. But yeah, uh same, I guess yeah jeez. Number twelve BYU at number eighteen Baylor. These rankings will have already changed by the time you listen to this. We're recording on Sunday night. Baylor buy a lot. Yeah, Baylor by fifteen plus yep. And number eleven Oklahoma at TCU. I like the Horny Frogs big, maybe not big, but I do like TCU to
win. I'm gonna say Oklahoma interesting. Okay. I think TCU is too good at start ze two, but we'll see other games. Number fourteen Duke has not been impressive. They take on a pit Teaven to the top half the acc standings. Who wins me? Pitt Duke, give Duke Walmar shot. If they lose this, then I'm really gonna get I'm really gonna lose my patience. Number one, What the hell? Uh for doing? Nebraska? Okay? Uh? Wow? Why are we picking that game? That's
terrible? Purdue a lot. I'm gonna san Nebraska. Wow, I'm gonna san Nebraska. I'm taking Purdue. Number five Tennessee at Alabama. Who's okay? That game? Okay? They just played. Number five Tennessee at Mississippi State. Give me the Fighting Barns. Yeah. Number eight North Carolina at North Carolina State. I do not trust Hubert Davis. I'll take the wolf Pack. I think I agree here. Yeah, and I this one here. Number twenty four Gonzaga at We don't know, it's a conference game,
does it matter. I don't care who they're playing. I will pick predict they win. Yeah, give me the Gonfrada Bulldogs. Oh, I like it. You're gonna see that on Twitter soon, sir, You're welcome. I will take all the royalties you make from that. Yeah, well, don't don't. Don't quit your day job. Next? Does he have later? Later? Not touch on that one. Nick gets his NBA and he's like, you peasants, just messy Ryan. Ryan drives people's cold car are
people's cold food around at night? So hey, that's a side job. That's too far. It was your real job, sitting at a desk in the city of a Leitha's apartment. Wow. Nick is firing shots. Nick is what he likes to define as a financially secure future and Ryan are those are perfectly real jobs. Those are perfectly real jobs. I just want to any chance I can make fun of city government. I'm gonna take that chance. Nick, who sits at a desk, is making fun of me for
a desk job. I said, I just wanted to make fun of a city job because you know what you always used to tell stories of when your one of your main responsibilities was coordinating with some other ladies taxpayers. This is a very very bad idea for a few different reasons. But yeah, special stance of I t P is that what Nick just said is lies. Well, Panera bread lunch is going to pay on the taxpayer's dying today. Samantha's gonna go pick it up. Make sure to get extra, extra, sise
extra, I'm getting I'm getting fired now Landon's. Landon has had family members that used to work there too, so we we all know how this works. I'm talking about your job at Culver's, not at a oh, any other job I do. I do handle a lot of taxpayer dollars working at the cash register at Colver's as a fourteen year old. That's right, technically,
that's kind of true. Yeah, and that was horrible remember whenever these these middle aged moms would come in and order like twenty five, like twenty different five dollars gift cards and we'd have to slide them all one by one five dollars gift cards. And yeah, that only did it at twelve to fifteen PM. Enjoy half a meal, I guess. Yeah, Well, they give them the kids, and that was that was whenever that could pay for a little cup of ice cream or custard or whatever. Now not the
shoe. Yeah, okay, I'm out. Next show, you'll say here so much, we'll be back. What Friday? We want a Friday night show with an early Saturday game the who knows? Do we even need recap the UCF game? Yes we do, because they're probably they have a people. They have a forty nine percent chance of losing, sir, per ESPN, and the metrics must be trusted. I'm leaving before Nick says something else that could get me in legal trouble. By career
