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ITP: Disastrous finale in Houston leaves banged-up Jayhawks lost

Mar 11, 20241 hr 29 minSeason 11Ep. 34
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Thankfully, the regular season is over for Kansas, as they were trounced in Houston by 30 points to close out conference play. Up next: the Big 12 tournament

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Just running another oppensive set. Oh look, okay, Caryer can't possibly make another one at least this one at the end of the shot clock in a heat. Oh it Bank did Bud that I've never seen them almost as bad as like a butt that season. You know, man, I don't know how long it's gonna go, but when they lose like that, Yeah, this is how long the cake did felt. Bill self said that he was hoping that they wouldn't even play. All right, I guess that's kind of

where it faced. Wow. Well, yeah, if if you make it, if you made it through that, if you made it through the KU game, then that that minute and seven second should have been child's play, right, that was? That was much better? Oh good lord, because just an I added a bunch of stuff to the board today and it messed up like all of my like the the locations because they're in alphabetical order, so now they've all been rearranged a bit, so like that the places I'm

used to looking. For instance, if I wanted to push car Crash you frequently I do. Yeah, it's now in the spot where Chariots of Fire is, So it's it's gonna be a little bit dicey for me on the board today. But it's not like it's not it's not for me to let my produce production as a producer fall off or anything. So you know, we'll we'll see. Yeah, So that was a mess that didn't that didn't go like how we hoped it would. It became funny at a certain point.

Yeah, that's what Cam W. Lippoldt said. He said, at some point, it's just kind of fun to see how much they're gonna lose by. Yeah. Yeah, it just becomes its own form of statistic entertainment. And it was because Kansas. You and I were texting during halftime and Nick was like, you know, they might still be able to win with a run, and I said, if Houston scores ten second half points, they have enough to win. And it turns out they didn't even need ten.

They only needed to score six points in the second half to win, which you know, damn damnit ass. That's that's that sequence. This is Inside the Pain on Rock Chok Blog regular season finale, and oh what a treat they cooked up for us to talk about. I'm Ryan Landreth, I'm wishing it was a different sports season. Nick is in a different state. I think right now, I think he's gonna this isn't his business trip,

this is his fun trip, right. I think that's right. So he's out enjoying the wilderness while Kansas is trying to avoid being cast out into the wilderness for the worst performance in conference play in many years. We're gonna, we're gonna chat about that, and then we're gonna talk about the Big Twelve Awards, which do not feature a lot of Jayhawk players. Unfortunately. That's kind of sad. It's always more fun when there's Jayhawks to be given out

hardware, not this zier. You want to read what I titled the notes for this particular episode, I'm out of bleeps to give at this point, I think, yep, And that's true. That's that we're kind of at the point. But then we're gonna we're gonna talk about doom and gloom for an hour, and then we're gonna pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and pick them to win the Big Twelve tournament. Right, that's how the show ends. No, all right, let's let's do for you. Let's do all

this. You're gonna get a marry today. That's how Mad I am number one, Houston seventy six, number fourteen, Kansas forty six. I at least thought they if you had said before the game, how bad could this possibly get? I think we would have still predicted him to get to fifty, Like if you had been given a piece of paper and been told before the game, I just got back from two hours into the future, it's really bad. Right down the final score prediction, I think I still would

have given them fifty. I think I would have said like seventy one to fifty one or something. And yeah, normally you get a game story. There isn't one. Really, it was the story Kansas got ran off the court in the first ten minutes and never looked back. Yep, they got

the story. They got their ass kicked the whole time. It was not within fifteen points at any point in the final thirty minutes of the game, Like they didn't make There wasn't even that run that cuts it back, the Villa Nova run that cuts it from twenty two to twelve, and you're like, ah, no, nothing, nothing happened. It was. It was just a dreadful basketball game. They scored twenty or nineteen points in the first half, and twenty seven in the second half, and that gets you to

forty six. That's bad. I did put together if you'd like to read the statistics, kind of a highlight package. If you will, I'll play the music if you want to read all the highlights from this game. Yeah it highlights is a word you could use to do this. All. Right, here we go. Thirty three from the floor shooting. That's bad. Three for twenty one shooting threes. That's infinitely worse. Eighteen turnovers, fifteen total baskets, baby few was points in a Big twelve game under the self

second course margin in a Big twelve loss on yourself. Kevin mccullor didn't play in the second half because his knees hurt. Hunter Dickinson's arm fell out of his socket, dis located his shoulder. They're getting an MRI on that at some point on the day of recording. I think anything else other than you they just they got absolutely clapped for forty minutes. Oh the other thing that you missed is that this is the worst they've done in a Big twelve season

since nineteen eighty nine, when you were negative eleven years old. Oh yeah, there's that too. Yeah, so but other than that, I think you nailed it. I think you nailed all of that. That absolutely awesome, those awesome statistics that leave you sitting back and just goat screw it. Two and seven on the road, two and seven, Yeah, and two and oh in Oklahoma and oh and seven everywhere else. That's not normal either, that's usually the way around. Yeah, normally there's a loss or two

in the to the Oklahoma schools in there. That's that's a bummer. How'd they do in that state of Texas? Good, Lord, Agnes, that was bad. They lost by twenty nine in Lubbock, they lost by thirty in Houston, and they lost by enough in Waco. That's a lot of points. Really bad, really bad. So Kansas is playing fort Worth, Yeah, which probably wouldn't have gone well if you're if you're being honest, because look how else the non Oklahoma road games, like, how well those

win? So yeah, the final things you need to know, and this recap is gonna be a little different. We were probably not going to go through each player stats individually because there just really isn't a lot to take away from. So you said it'd be doom and gloom for an hour and that's generous by about thirty minutes. Probably. Yeah, there's just not enough here, because this is a game that you have to flush. You have no choice. You can't flush it in the sense that, oh that was a

fluke, that was a one off. No, they got blasted at the number one team in the country. And there isn't like the regular season is now over. It's now win or go home format the rest of the way. And there just isn't a lot of sense in recapping this because we didn't learn anything about Kansas in this game. We didn't learn oh wow, they're vulnerable. I didn't see that coming, Like they just got run off the train tracks. They finished sixth in the Big Twelve, which some tiebreakers like

that. I think that sounds worse than it is because though they were one of those seven road losses away from finishing third with tie breakers like three through like ten in the Big twelve is all about the same. But they did finish in sixth place and the standings, and even if they got one of those, I don't think that makes you feel horribly different about this team at this point. It doesn't. You're you're not sitting there going well, hey,

they're the three seed in Kansas City. I feel great instead of they're the sixth seed and I hate my life. Kansas worst Big twelve season since nineteen eighty nine. That spans twenty previous Bill selfiears and fourteen Roy Williams years. It's been thirty five years. You're one of the roy era when they were on probation. That is the last time they had a season this poorly. Also the last time they missed an NCAA tournament according to our record books.

The ncaaa's record books show they missed in twenty eighteen because it was vacated. That's weird Final four hat from that year. Huh. Yeah, And you notice that the n did not refund the money that they got from their cut of those Final four merchandise, right, And what's this? This is a Ku Villanova Final four highlights voice you don't remember those? That might be a memory block or something else for it list. It'll make you happy.

That and all the the adding to the new soundboard. I did put this on the board. Here we go. Here comes the two seeds big for Kansas. I love that matchup. Yeah, whoops a dood that was the different year they lost to Villanova, by the way, who lost also excited about Orgon being the three seed. Didn't put that one on the board because screw it. I am not double owning myself today. We have enough Kansas owning to talk about. So yeah, I guess we'll kind of begin to

sort through this a little bit. I just kind of grouped everyone together. Let's lead off with the bigs. I guess Hunter Dickinson let him in, scoring eleven and six was his line. He was the only Jayhawk that scored it in double figures. That I don't think this was as bad as the Kentucky game, just for any reason than the fact that in that game their leading scorer had nine and not eleven. kJ had nine and five and twenty eight minutes. He was pretty active early, just couldn't finish at the rim.

Parker Brown two points, ten relief minutes, he was already on a bad ankle. And then Dylan will Hite he played six minutes at the center and logged a foul. Imagine being told that before the game, here's a piece of paper and a pen. Right the score. Patrick Cassidy and Dylan will Hyde are playing the one in the five in the last five minutes, I might have flipped the score in Kansas's favor. Yeah, it was. It was bad. The obvious concern, though, is Dickinson right. He

leaves with a separated shoulder looked in. That's a big shoulder to dislocate. They did pop it back into place. Per Self, He's getting an MRI today on Sunday, so by the time this podcast drops there should be a little more of a status. Self said he's questionable for the Big twelve tournament. Wouldn't be a Big twelve tournament without their best big getting hurt. Yeah, would be an unfortunate tradition that they're missing at least somebody for the Big

twelve Tournament in one capacity or another. Think about this Lawrence Area tail lights last writing right Josh Jackson, but last eleven seasons. Joelle Embiid hurts his back right before the Big twelve Tournament. Cliff Alexander is ruled ineligible right before the Big twelve Tournament. Josh Jackson kicks a tail light out, misses the opener of the Big twelfth Tournament. They lose Udoka Azapooky sprains his knee in

practice, misses the Big twelve Tournament. Twenty was obviously the whole thing got shut down. Twenty one David McCormick gets COVID, misses the Big twelve Tournament. Twenty twenty three the Coach's Heart gives out, misses the Big twelve Tournament. And this year Hunter Dickinson separates his shoulder questionable at best for the Big twelve Tournament. That's amazing. That's almost impossible. Yeah, that is actually pretty wild. Stat Like, that's pretty crazy. Uh yeah, I mean

the rest of the season obviously hinges on this. I don't know if it matters, and I hope pretty much gone. I don't I don't have any there's nothing really left that I there's no expectations I have left for Kansas this year, but I'm in. Admittedly, with Hunter Dickinson on neutral floors, there's still a relatively high ceiling team. But yeah, if he's done, there's nothing there. There's no hope. If he's out, obviously, I don't think he'll be out for the Marsh Madness. I bet he'll try to

go if he can. If it's they did say they popped it back in, which is good. Who knows, who knows, But yeah, if he is out, that's it. That's wrap. It's probably wrap anyway, because I think this team is pretty pretty bad for Kansas standards. But if they have McCuller and Dickinson healthy, which I don't know how you can look at the current state of the roster and think that's in any way likely right

now, but you know, you never know. If Dickinson and mccullar are healthy, I think they have a decent shot to make the second weekend. And if you make the second weekend and you'll let Bill self have those five days of prep time where he's very good in the sweet sixteen, and you get a good draw, anything can happen. I don't think then making a deep run is out of the question, but it is out of the question if they don't have both of those guys, both of them and McCuller,

who we'll talk about. He didn't even play in the second half because he I don't know if he tweaked his knee or if he was hurting himself, just said, okay, that's it. I'm not playing him. Of course, did stop him from saying, hey, we're down by twenty five. But a hunter go out there and run around like I don't get that,

like you were kind of asking for it. I think he also said that what happens with one of them could affect the other one, Like if mccullor is in pain but can go and Dickinson can't, I wonder if that changes the way they're like, well, we have to have players, so Kevin, you have to play. But at this point, I don't know they need both of them. And Dickinson looked like he was in agony too.

That was just brutally got his arm and he said they popped it back in place, which from everything this is me listening to a lot of Kansas post game on the radio, people have said because they got it back in place pretty quickly, that helps, But the threat is couldn't pop back out and nobody really That's why I wonder if he won't play in the Big twelve tournament, is just because it was so fresh. Now again, severity is probably

like, I mean, that's obviously completely what this comes down to. But if it's a little bit worse than the most minimum it could be, I mean, it's still a dislocated shoulder, then I do wonder if he'll sit out and they'll just take their lumps and see what they can do, you know, coming up, because also there's a chance he comes back next year, and you'd much rather have a guy without a history of dislocating his shoulder multiple times, right, Yeah, And we don't know if this has happened

to him before. We don't know if he's ever had a dislocated shoulder like he could have had him in high school or even at Michigan. That was just kind of like kept out of the puppet because it didn't happen in a game, so it wasn't super public knowledge like we don't no, But once you do it the first time, the odds of reinjury are very high. So yeah, they're gonna be pretty careful. And they obviously they only have four days of rest. Normally they have five days because they're normally a bye

to the Thursday round. I want to talk about Houston though, because my take on Houston at the beginning of the year was that they're a good basketball team that's not immune from losing seven Big Twelve games, and that was a bad take. In terms of execution, Houston's brilliant. They won fifteen Big Twelve games. They've won one or they've lost one of their last what like fourteen Big Twelve games? Just pick yeah, OK, yeah, they've won.

They've won fourteen of fifteen. I think because they started one and two and they're a wagon. Undoubtedly, but I don't think that the premise behind that take was terrible considering everybody in the Big Twelve besides Houston and a kind of flukey Iowa State run, like the third best team in the Big Twelve, lost seven games. So my theory that the Big Twelve was gonna beat each each other up is valid. But I underestimated just how good Houston was

and how good of a fit they are in this conference. Whereas we saw teams like Cincinnati and Central Florida and BYU struggle to get acclimated at times, Houston looked like they were the ones that were used to this conference and the teams around them were getting acclimated to it. My take watching Houston who I like. I don't have any disdain for the for Houston or their fans or

anything. They're just a fun team to watch. That team is exactly and you pointed this out, that's exactly who we thought Kansas would be this year. Houston is the reverse. Yes, yeah, exactly. Well, I don't know. We thought Kansas this year would be an elite defensive team. Houston checks that box. We thought that Kansas this year would be dynamite inside

the arc. Houston checks that box. We thought that Houston this year or Kansas this year would outscrap and out hustle teams to they would they would play hard because they're well coached. That's what Houston does. We thought that Kansas would just crush people at home, it's what Houston did. That like watching Houston play the way and you see this and it sounds cliche, but they

really do get eighty percent of the fifty to fifty balls. They're up twenty and they're diving on everything like it's like it's the last play the final four.

It is impressive to watch. And that team is a juggernaut. I have not been more impressed with a Big twelve team that did not eventually win the championship, therefore eliminating the Baylor twenty one juggernaut that I don't I can't remember the last time I was this impressed with a Big twelve team other than that one that was a few of the most recent Baylor teams obviously, especially that one because that team was psycho. But uh, yeah, they're really

good. I do think the reverse is true insofar as as you were saying, going into the year, you and I especially very much thought that Houston was good. No one ever doubted that Houston was a good one. We thought they were a top ten team. Well, yeah, we I think all three of us picked them at least in the top three or four of

the Big Twelve. And yeah, we all thought they were, you know, definitely a top ten and picking them fourth, by the way, picking them fourth or third was like a game out of first, like we thought it would just be a log jam. Yeah, but we did think that they would struggle to go on the road consistently in the Big Twelve and pull out wins, and then that's exactly what happened to Kansas. So from that

perspective, I think that's where I think versus also true. Kansas is who we thought Houston, yep, would be a team that was really good at home and would win you know, most, if not all their games at home and be very solid and just maybe struggle on a ninth to night basis on the road in the Big Twelve. Because that's really hard to do. And then Kansas obviously very very much struggled on a night to night basis on

the road in the Big Twelve, and that's pretty unfortunate. And I think that Houston so I've heard Bill Soe said Houston could absolutely win it all if the tournament. If I knew right now that every game in the NCAA Tournament would be called the same way, I would pick Houston to win. I think that they're going to struggle. I said, if they played Purdue, Zachie, he's gonna shoot a hundred free throws because they they are very those

of you familiar with the NFL. The twenty thirteen Seattle Seahawks, the team that just crushed the Broncos in the Super Bowl. As a Chiefs fan land and was rooting for the Broncos, it's disgusting. Go Peytons, as they basically said, everyone was like, all they do is hold, And they asked them after the that era was over and they said, yeah, our strategy was to hold every time because they're not gonna call it every time. I think Houston kind of does the same thing. They foul a lot,

only some of it's called because you just can't call it. Every time NCAA tournament refs will say, hold my beer, I'll absolutely call every one of them. So I think Houston is going to be susceptible to the way those games are called because they're not super deep. They've lost three players now to season ending injuries, so they could be in some trouble with foul outs. But oh my gosh, like, there's no one tougher, there's no one

scrappier, there's no one better at playing within their means. And yeah, if they say out a foul trouble, that's that they are the best team my eyes have watched this year play basketball. Yeah, I think I would concur with that. You know, obviously we can talk about matchups, like I don't think Houston matches up particularly well with Purdue or Yukon, the two

other teams that I think are the best three teams in the country. Uh, just from a size perspective, I don't think they match ups super well, but they're they're in, say a sensational basketball team. Uh. With lower quality teams, they're they're largely going to have their way. I agree with the ref take, though, if they get some really tight calls,

which the NCAA Tournament is decently famous for. If they have some matchups that are called very, very tightly, they could be in some trouble for sure, because, yeah, they play very physical. Kind of reminds me of Texas Tech in a lot of ways. Yeah, no doubt they were good.

But they do foul a lot, and they're very physical, and they try to draw flops and stuff, and n see the tournament refs do call games a lot differently or somewhat differently than regular season refs, even though those same people, which is just the nature of referring at this point, I guess. But yeah, they're they're brilliant. I do think they are one

of the three best teams in the country, probably top to bottom. I think obviously there's some other teams that are really good, but certainly I don't know how you can watch them. I don't know how you any it's it's them in Yukon. I don't know how anybody can say based off of everything we've ever watched from Purdue, Purdue's played the weakest schedule of those three teams.

I know, their non con schedule is probably the best, but their conference late they've been more susceptible than either of those other two teams in their league play. It's Yukon and Houston right now, they are the favorites if I gave you Yukon, Houston and Purdue and the versus the field. We talked about this on the last show. I would you take the those three teams or would you take the field? Yeah, that's that's a tough question.

I think I would still take the field because I think there's some very talented, very solid teams in the rest of the field, and I don't quite I don't quite one hundred percent trust any of those three enough. It's a it's it's it's closer now. Like I remember in twenty twenty one, we had the conversation Gonzaga and Baylor or the field. That was to me the closest I've been to taking the side with just a couple of teams,

and that wound up being the right. Those were so so clearly the best two teams la season like that, and they played in the end two teams. In comparison to the rest of college basketball that I've seen, There's been better teams, but those two teams were so far and away from the rest of the field, right, and and look who wound up playing in the championship came a year those two teams like this year, It wouldn't surprise me at all if we saw two of those top three teams in the finals.

But you're right, then we could also get a Saint Peter Ing No, no one knows. All right, Well, well that was a nice two hundred beat break of talking about a really fun team to discuss. Let's get back to the stuff that we normally do, which is talking about uh, the great damn Bill who just looks like he's having no fun like he he just looks he looks dejected. He sounds dejected. It's kind of weird, like those of you wanting to see Bill self coach for fifteen more years years

like this. Not great for that, No, they're not. Uh the guards, let's talk about the guards. Johnny Furphy he made two threes, finished with nine points and four rebounds. Dwan Harris said three points, one assist, three turnovers in twenty seven minutes. Jorny mcgowll went over five and seventeen minutes, and Nick Timberlake did, I didn't you're right, I didn't put Timberlake in there, but oh, are you worth? Are you surprised that the instant and I do mean the incident that we were like, hey,

Timberlake maybe starting to heat up? Bricked every three he launched. No, it's not surprising. He went one for four from the field for three from three, he had four points. Did have five rebounds, which is kind of out of nowhere, but that happened. I think he's their best free throw shooter, if that's anything. It's not. He's he's a good free throw shooter. He may eat both of his free throws. I guess, yeah. There, they lost forty six to seventy six, Like,

what are we doing like this? I'm just seeing the score here again, looking at the box score, like that's impossible. It's very Virginia, Like, is what it is? Forty six points? I thought, too, Uh, there really isn't anything here for if he did make a couple of threes, which I guess was good. I think it was Brett Rasdall on Twitter who posted the meme of have you seen the when when Phoenix was just getting crushed in Game seven of the Western Conference Finals a few years back?

Uh, and uh, the youth the NBA YouTube page posted a video and completely unironically, the title is Chris Paul Hits huge three to cut deficit to forty two. Yeah, and that was that was what was post did when Furfey made a couple threes, is like, yay, he's getting odd as they're down one hundred points. Uh, Furfey, I I feel like that the Furfey and Bajie Freshman's comparison is just as similar Furfey does. He looked like a deer in headlights in this game. That was not a ride he

wanted to be on. It's not a ride many people want to be on. Houston, especially at home, plays very aggressive, very pressing defense. Uh, they fly around and yeah, it showed Yeah, Furfey. I I wonder how effective Furfey's gonna be in the tournament. Uh just because freshman, he was only playing half the year. He's young, like he just

it's not trending the right direction right now. I think that, like there's only like a twenty five percent chance that Timberlake is going to be on on any given night, But I think their chances of yeah, I think their chances of going on a run are I think Timberlake is every bit as important as any piece not named Dickenson or mccullar, which might be probably true, which kind of shows you where this team is. Yeah, that might be all she wrote, folks, But yeah, I guess it's probably It's probably

actually been all she wrote for a long time. When was the moment whenever you realized, oh damn, this might not be great this the season? This season it wasn't UCF because UCF we were just like, well, that's weird. But then they won like way too early. Yeah, like they take weird losses like every year, so that it was weird, but it wasn't. Season ending probably byu b YU was probably where I was like, oh, oh, this team is really actually not that good, are they?

So they were thirteen and one when they lost to UCF, and then they they lost to West Virginia, but I think we kind of chucked both of those games up to just fluky stuff happens. Then they lost to Iowa State and won a couple of games after the Houston game, the good one, they were six and three in the Big Twelve and they were eighteen and four, and I think that I said after that Iowa State loss that they

were gonna win nine of their last eleven. Like at that point, I was still like, no, they're gonna be all right, and I largely agreed. Yeah. Yeah. The Case State loss was the moment when it started to shift, because you normally have a couple of losses that you kind of be like, oh, stuff happens in the Big twelve. They were already at their quote halfway through the year thanks to Orlando and Morgantown, and then mccullor gets hurt and you're like, oh, look, how bad this

road schedule is. Down the stretch. This might be a problem. And then they got railed in Lubbock and then they lost to BYU a home. Yeah. I think the Case State loss was when I was beginning to figure out not great, and I'm with you. The BYU loss was whenever you kind of thought, oh, it's just not they are twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, I think the BYU loss is what truly ended the real hope.

Like I think, especially if you go back and listen to that show, I think the amount of defeat that we had is decently palpable for what this team was on that show Like that that kind of was the funeral show, and then BYU was the funeral Procession show, and this is the burial show. Well and mccullar, there's not a lot to say. In case, it was a celebration of life. That was the Polluck Dinner, so yeah, yeah, And and the Houston game was getting they dropped the casket.

They didn't even lower it, they just threw it six feet in the ground and it hit them. And then and then the next two tournaments are the moments when you play, like the home videos of the team, it's like that might be really good. You might just cry your eyes out, but it might be because of happiness, but it's also mostly because of sadness. Probably Yeah, yeah, mixed bag. You know it's gonna happen.

How many more games are they gonna win this year? That's such a tough The NCAA tournament is so weird because it so depends on draw like and because this team is not healthy, but not in a way that is definitive one way or another. It's very hard to say. I think they'll win one to two big twelve tournament games, and I think they will win about the same and say tournament, so I would two to four. Best best case

scenario, they win four O. Yeah, that's pretty sad. Hopefully they can win them all in one tournament, then Big twelve to five in the Big twelve tournament or three, I mean in the Big twel tournament five total, making that they need Dickinson and mccullar. Yeah, but that's the thing. If Dickinson's out, then I think it's very possibly one. No, yeah, that's it's it's it's all kind of bad. Mccullor no points, no rebounds, no assists, just like Landon in fifteen minutes. Yeah,

and he's hurt, like he's he didn't play in the second half. He was terrible. He's shooting like twenty six percent on threes in conference play or something like. It's just just not great. And it sucks for him that his last year has to be this way. But he's gonna have to play hurt the rest of the year. The moments of oh, he let him rest and get ready, No, that's not an option anymore. He's gonna be in pain when he plays, and it's there's no tomorrow at this point

if you lose. So just it sucks. Most people in this sport are kind of banged up. The color is more banged up than most of them. But it's just gonna have to be the way it is, right, Yeah, that's that's true. I think all right, let's talk three. How much to rest for at this point, let's talk threes in case you you wanted another, I guess we have to. Yeah, go ahead, and I'll let you read it so then I can. I can. I'll

be on a soundboard. No, I don't have about it. Yeah, we did say this up top Kus three of twenty one shooting threes, which is gross and also fourteen percent, which is great. Players not named Furfy and Dickinson were thirteen. Those guys were three of eight, which is not awful. That's that's an acceptable number. Three of eight is an acceptable percentage, not elite, but it's total. It's fine. It's fine. Uh oh, thirteen is not that's booty cheeks. Houston made eleven threes. And

then here's truly an apocalypse of stat. Ryan. You posted this on Twitter. I believe you put it in the chain for sure, good, very good stat This is great fine, But that's the only thing that's good about it is that's neat that you found it eighteen conference games. Kansas made more threes than their opponent in one of those eighteen games, that was Cincinnati at home. In all games, opponents made sixty seven more threes than Kansas did,

for a net of minus one hundred and two points. You got that backwards. Nope, you said those numbers backwards. Oh yeah, it's so much worse than that. It's two hundred and one. That's there, you go, that's that's the real stat. It's so much worse. It's ninety nine points worse than one hundred and two. They were now threes worse than one hundred and two. They were about one hundred and sixty points better than

their opponents on free throws and twos. All they had to do was just not be apocalyptic from three point land, and they were minus two hundred and one most of the season, So on average, that's three or four ish more threes that they allowed in their opponent on average, in a conference where most of the games were close, they were spotting the other team about ten

points in three point differential every night, all eighteen times. And you could, of course point somewhat to other teams just made a lot of threes against Kansas, And that's true. Most of the teams did make a lot of threes against Kansas, especially in road games, but it was like Kansas could just not they couldn't make any like they just couldn't make threes. And imagine

this show saying that Kansas needs to make threes. You're just at a point in college basketball it's like what are you doing if you don't have people that can shoot threes on your team? Like what I mean? I know they tried, and one prefers sex to being illegal assist in the United States, and the other has been just bad. And that's Nocktimberlake. And you thought Marco Jackson would probably be able to make more than twelve threes this year.

No one expected him to be like a lights out shooter, but you know, you thought more than that. Probably four points, no rebounds, four turnovers in fourteen minutes. And I've I've had it with El Marco. I don't normally like to get super you know, negative with players, because these are kids that are playing their hearts out, not on Twitter at least, and and al Marco Jackson just he's just awful. He's terrible. He's the

he's he is the worst mcdonald' all American in the self era. Don't come at me and tell me it was Theello or it was brag or it was Grimes or Selvi, Bryce Thompson was had a couple of better games than he did, and MJ Rice is close, but and J Rice probably is the real answer. But no, MJ Rice was hurt and MJ Rice never got a fair shot. Al Marco has been healthy and active all year. Yeah that's true. Like it's just it hasn't happened. And and people saying like,

oh, I hope he comes back. I think he could be good. I'd be stunned if he does. In this era of college basketball, there isn't a oh, well we didn't recruit over you, so you'll stay. You can go somewhere else, get a fresh start. The Jayhawks would be crazy, not because there are players in the portal better than Almarco Jackson. They would be crazy not to find an upgrade there. Grimes was disappointing, he didn't stay. Selby was disappointing. He went to the NBA to

be a second round draft pick. MJ. Rice was disappointing. He didn't stay, like none of them. It just doesn't happen in this era. I'd be stunned if he came back, and I don't think they'd miss anything if he did. There's not anything that I think he's good at. Some people say he's okay at defense. Okay, maybe like that's it. Yeah, I don't. I think that's a pretty good take that. Yeah. I don't think you're gonna really miss anything that Almarco would take with him.

It's certainly not that you can't replace pretty easily. So Hunter Dickinson, he made eight threes in Big Twelve play. I was looking at these numbers because he shot twenty two percent and boy, so he made two against TCU and the opener. So he made six in the final seventeen Big Twelve games. I think, if memory serves, I think four of them were like last minute garbage time, weren't they. He made one in the final seconds in Orlando. Yes, yes, you had one. Iowa staated Baylor last week,

time, Baylor last and then yesterday. That's four. So he really in seventeen games. He made a game tying three against BYU, which was huge, and then he made a three against UH That's that's literally it. Oh, he made he made one and the Baylor game at home, and that was that was important. They won that game by three. But so the man made two consequential threes in seventeen games like that. Just that blows my mind. That really blows my mind. Refs, we need to say

anything else, just total ass. Yeah they're bad. Franfrascilla with quiet when kJ Adams got body checked into the floor, and that that's on brand for Fran. He doesn't normally point out when things should have been fouls, especially in Kansas games. No, that's not been his normal thing for years on years. I'm glad Fran was on the call for that game, one because he could probably get his rocks off, and two because you know that he

was the perfect announcer for a game of that level of awfulness. Yeah, we need to be done with the Frankfurcchilla experiment. I know ESPN loves him, but he's just I'm not a fan, not a fan. Call me crazy, but I'm not a fan. Shocking, I don't know why you wouldn't be. We have anything else to say about this game. This really wasn't as much a recap as was as much as it was a funeral yeah, it was. It was a funeral dirge. Uh No, not not

particularly really bad. Again, the tournament can be very fluky, and it can be very dependent. It is very dependent on draw both the conference tournaments in the NCAA and Kansas will still be in both of those obviously, So uh should you quit watching the team? That's up to you and however you feel your mental state will be able to handle what's about to happen. But I mean, are they gonna get run? Are they gonna get run in

their season ending tournament loss again like they do most year? It feels like one of those Sure feels like one of those seventeen point l or it's a one point lost to Arkansas with a bunch of his free throws, like it's one or the other. I don't think this team is good enough to lose one point game. Oh jeez. Thirty three percent from the floor, fourteen percent from three, sixty five percent of the line, that's whatever, minus

seven on the glass, eighteen turnovers total and complete buns. Ass got anything else? No, all right, that's literally anything else? Final edition of Big twelve Games. Wow, I'm so disappointed. I don't get to talk about more West Virginia versus Cincinnati matchups anymore. That just makes me sad. Big Twelve games this year I feel like was a real snooze fest. Like I wonder if people just skip that different than this year to years. Yeah,

I feel like in the past it's been a little better. It's just this year. Would you get one more sandstorm though? That's right? Yeah? Kansas State sixty five, number six, Iowa State fifty eight, woo twenty three points from Arthur Kaluma and another twenty one from Camp Carter's k State one on their senior day. They've beating Kansas, Iowa State, and Baylor all at home. But they're only eighteen and thirteen on the year. What do they need to do to get in Ryan They need to win well.

I think they need to win two Big twelve tournament games. They open with Texas. That's not easy. That's a terrible matchup just from a talent perspective. They win that, they draw Iowa State. If they win both those games, I think they're in. If they beat Texas and play Iowa State close, I think they have a case. That's a lot. They have more quality wins than most of the teams they're competing with. They also them

are losses. Yeah, I agree, though, if they get to twenty wins, if they're twenty and say they're twenty and fourteen, say they win to and lose the next which would be likely if they were to win to UH, that is probably in. Yeah, if that's a nose, I think that's enough they should be in at that point. Oklahoma's got twenty wins and they're seen as a slam dunk right now. TCU is one win above KSE State with a worst set of conference wins, and they're scene as in

right now. I don't really understand how TCU is in and KSE State isn't because Kansas State is basically the same team TCU's. He's the only reason that TCU is in is because they don't have a Georgetown loss on their non con schedule, and they should have remembered that shot should have been waved off, like if that had been a loss, they're probably on the end outside right

now. So the margins really small. The problem with these big twelve teams, sorry, the problem with these big twelve teams though, is they're all competing with each other for some of the final few spots, and in the Big twelve tournament, if you lose, like if your case state, and you lose a team like Texas and a team like Oklahoma and a team like TCU, Yeah, exactly, somebody's gonna push you out. That's the hard

part. I think k State has a case though. Yeah, I think they do, especially if they, like you said, if they get too I think they have a very very good shot. Iowa State offense, they were really struggled, which is weird because they scored twelve more points than Kansas, so it's not too bad from my perspective, but they did score just thirty three points in the final thirty minutes. Are we worried about them entering

the NCAA tournaments. Yeah, Like a lot of Big twelve two seeds, they might be a little overseeded and they don't have a super like X factor ceiling. If you take Iowa State out of Hilton and maybe the Sprint Center, I think they're like the sixth best team in the Big twelve. Like they they chalked up so much crap in their non conference schedule. They played eighteen home games this year, Like when you we need outrageous, Yeah, they played all these home games. I don't know. I think I would.

I'm gonna bet against Iowa State making the second weekend. I just don't think they have a lot of talent. I think they're well coached. I think they're very good at playing within their means, but I don't know. Something just doesn't feel quite right about that. I don't think they can score, and they're very mid on the road. Losing record on the road this year. I know somebody else who did that, but was worse. Texas

tex seventy eight, number eleven, Baylor sixty eight. See this one's weird because I don't think Baylor and Kansas are that much different at all, but they're separated by three lines in the seating list. Pop Isaac's had twenty points, which, if you're doing math, is four more than the age of the girl he allegedly assaulted as the Red Raiders. Yeah, it is glad that guy gets to play as the Red Raiders win another home game. Baylor

is the three seed in the Big Twelve tournament with seven losses. Tech is the four. Their soft schedule helped them out finish with the same record as Kansas and BYU, but they did not have to go on the road to Allen Field House, and they did not have to go or they only had to play Houston, Kansas and Iowa State once. You gotta think that that's where the sixth seed. Everyone's like, Oh, Kansas is sixtyed. Kansas is the fourth best team in the Big twelve. They're better than BYU and

they're better than Texas Tech. The unbalanced schedules hurt them in this case. Yeah, I think that's thatccurate, and that's about all I have to say. I think Baylor has a very high ceiling entering the NCATE tournament, though considering their guards and coach, I don't think they have a very good defense. And normally teams that have a high offense and a low ceiling defense Alabama, Baylor, Arizona. Yeah, normally that that doesn't go too well.

Fortunately, the team we root for has a phenomenal defense and an even better offense. Damn. So they are upset proof number twenty BYU eighty five, Oklahoma State seventy one. Hey, we didn't play it in the recap, so it's gotta go. Some didn't eat Oh we could have about that walk on that made as many three oh, my gosh, she almost hit it between the legs. Step back. Yeah, it was close. It was real close. And there were a couple of just stupid threes Houston hit and

I had people being like falling down bank. Make was rock fine? I can't actually can rock Chuck blog it's not all luck see all right whatever? At that point, it doesn't matter. Tell me about yeah cowboys and Cougar's close for a minute. The Uyu pulled away late to clinch the number five. See in the Big Teal tournament, it made twelve threes. Seven different players made a three. I mean, I wish Kansas could say any sense Kansas had to how good is Byu? I think? I think Byu is

fine. I do also think that their three point shooting is going to make them a very unfun team to play. They're a very worrisome team to play. I do you think they have a decently low floor. But they're solid. They're solid. We left them out of our teams with great offenses and not so kind of suspect defenses and how that doesn't normally work. They're a poster child for that. They're entertaining as hell, though, I'm glad they're in the dance because they are. Yeah, they're gonna be like an eight

seed. You're absolutely watching them playing number one Perdue or whatever, because you know they got a shot. Yeah, And that's the thing. I think if they are like an eight seed or whatever, and they're probably higher than that actually, but yeah, they probably are like a seven or a six, I think either way they are going. I don't think whoever the high seed is in that little mini region is gonna be like, yay, we got byu Oh no, yeah, the way you could drop fourteen threes on

you and all of a sudden you're out with ease. Yeah, No, I'm with you on that one. Oklahoma state total buns Texas ninety four, Oklahoma eighty. Speaking of buns, great defense, Porter Oklahoma pride itself on his defense, gave up eighty seven to Houston and ninety four to Texas, You suck balls. I can't believe that they're gonna put Oklahoma in the dance. Oklahoma, I'm not going. We've taken so many airwave beats talking about how Oklahoma shouldn't make the dance this year, so I won't. I won't

continue. I'll talk about Texas though. Thirty points from Tyree Hunter. John Rostein goes, Texas is a team that nobody wants to see in their bracket. Oh my goodness, here we go again. Stop with this. Yeah, I mean they're so talented, but I mean that's it though most coach and actually fear about them. They don't never produce. Yeah no, And people were like, they made the Elite A last year, that's pretty good. What was their path last year? Like, didn't they just have a

super path open up for them? Last year? They and that team was so much better than this year's team, like not even Oh yeah, yeah, it was a lot better. So last year they were too. They beat a fifteen, then a ten, then they did beat a three seed, they beat three seed Xavier, and they got a five in the Elite eight and they lost, Like so yeah, they you're right, that team was really good and that was Chris Beard's team. No, not so much,

Rodney Terry, good luck. I bet Texas loses their first nca game. Uh yeah, I think that's more likely than not. Probably. Yep. It's which is hilarious because it's always something UCF seventy nine, TCU seventy seven. Jamie Dixon did Atlanta and he went all nine and nine. Woo Hey. The two teams in the DFW area did a Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, yes they did. I guess Texas in Austin, which is a little farther away, but nonetheless, yeah, whatever in that in that region.

Thirty three points from Darius Johnson as UCF took down the most mid team that's ever midted Jamie Dixon with his classic nine to nine. He did it, he did it. Indeed, are the Knights the biggest surprise in the Big twelve this year? They won seven league games. I mean that's I think we were saying they would win like two to four. Yeah, they'd be a dormat. We thought they'd be like og tcuh and they turned out to be a lot stiffer than that. Yeah, they won seven games. They

obviously beat Kansas, A road win at TCU is super nice. This is a team that lost by twenty five to k State and the Big twelve opener and we thought, oh, they're a total dormat. They lost by two at BYU, they lost by seven at Texas Tech, they lost by eight to Baylor. They only lost to Houston at home by eight. They only lost to Iowa save by eight, like they were seven and eleven, and they were very competitive in most of their games. Johnny Dawkins is a good

coach. Did you see Antonio Brown going wild in the student section because his son is being recruited to play basketball at UCF. He had a big sign that said, give Johnny Dawkins a lifetime contract. He doesn't know where he is at the moment, but he was all about UCF basketball. That's funny. I didn't see that. Johnny Dawkins. By the way, if I can Johnny Dawkins two and oh against Bill self, yes, Jamie Dixon, by the way, he has no been at TCU for like a long time.

Here are his records nine to nine this year, nine and nine, last year, eight and ten, the year before that, then they were really bad. In twenty one they were only five and eleven, seven and eleven, seven and eleven, nine and nine, Like that's crazy. He's as mid as it gets. And they have won a tournament game each the last two years. I think parody of what we would say a five hundred team is. Yeah, they they are the the was it the Cowboys that

went eight and eight every year? Like that's begin to get the cowboys there. That's perfect. Uh yeah, TCU. I think TCU is better than Kansas State. I think they're better than Texas. I don't act I think they're better than Texas Tech two. But man, they just find way. The three point shooting is what's so bad. That's what's gonna hurt him.

They are, Yeah, they are going to be drawn in an eight nine window where people are gonna say, oh, that's a terrifying matchup for the one seed and they're gonna lose in the eight ninety though, Yep, that's what always happened. TCU and Texas are very similar. TCU is a less talented Texas, but it's a similar idea that it is a talented team. But what what what do they actually do? Though? Like they don't, they don't ever actually perform it? Say you do here? Cincinnati ninety two,

West Virginia fifty six. Yeah, great, West Virginia is so bad since he shot fifty nine percent from the floor. They dominated the second half, blowing out the worst team in the conference. Bill lost to that West tream of the conference. By the way, U fourteen league games, they won at least seven games this year. Yeah, it's a very balanced fourteen league teams. Excuse me, Yeah, fal fourteen league teams won at least seven games. Yeah, you had threem through twelve were between seven and eleven.

And that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, two teams that separated. That's so symmetrical. I didn't realize that. It's literally two at each record point. Yeah, from eleven to seven. Pretty balanced league. Yeah, very very balanced league. So your final Big twelve standings, This is by Big twelve seed, top seed Houston. They won the conference by two games, well deserved, fifteen to three. Second place alone, I was State thirteen and five. Third is Baylor. They are eleven and seven because

of tie breaker. I don't know how these tie breakers work, because they split with Tech and ed shrug. And then there is Tech in fourth at eleven and seven as well. Fifth is BYU, who has the tiebreaker over the next team because they beat him at Allen field House ten and eight. Ten and eight, the lowest Kansas has ever been in the Big twelve standings in the bill self Air and the worst record they've ever had in conference play in the bill Self era. Kansas ten and eight, seventh place is Texas

eternally underachieving and oderwhelming. They are nine and nine, TCU eight eternally exactly who they are? Nine and nine. Yeah, Oklahoma's eight and ten feels like if they got lucky to not be worse. Porter mosers on the bubble. Oh boy in tenth. K State eight and ten. There's not a lot to say about them, because they feel like the most eight and ten team of all time. Probable next Kansas opponent, Cincinnati finishes eleventh. They

are seven wins and eleven losses. U see F seven wins and eleven losses. As we just talked about, a pretty nice first year for UCF considering the expectations for sure yep, thirteen Oklahoma State, Yeah, four and fourteen, that's that's bad. Mike Boyton's probably begin to be filing for unemployment soon. And in fourteenth, Oh have the mighty fall in West Virginia on once a good team no longer four and fourteen as well, and they get the

tiebreaker for last. So West Virginia's conference wins this year, let's just take a look here. They beat Central Florida. Oh, that's to be expected. They beat Cincinnati, Sure they didn't do very good this year. They beat Texas's that's a nice name, but Texas isn't isn't very good. I'm trying to find the fourth team they beat. I think that's only fourth. I think it would be like Oklahoma State maybe or yeah, somebody realized.

Oh no, by the way, the most they scored in conference play against anybody was eighty one, except for that game when they scored ninety one. Terrible Big Twelve Awards. Hey, this is gonna be a long show, so we need to do this pretty fast. But we're gonna do some Big Twelve Awards and it's not gonna feel fun at all because there's not a lot of Jayhawks. But it doesn't even matter. Here we go. I'm trying to find the music. You know, you know the one there it is.

Welcome to the Big Twelve Awards Show. I'm a sick wider. Yeah it is. Look at that perfect All right, Well, let's just blow through these awards here. We have not seen anybody else's awards, so we're not copying. This is just what you think is deserved. Who should be the Big Twelve Player of the Year, Jamal shed Yes, that is a

layup. Jamal shed best player on the best team, dynamite on both ends of the court, thirteen points, six assists, clutch, one of the best he throws shooters at the conference, and probably gonna win Defensive Player of the Year as well. Bona fide studd he wins the award. Who is the freshman of the year in the Big Twelve? And why is it la Marco Jackson? Yeah, not that one. It's probably what's his name for Baylor? Yeah, Etched Walter it is? Yeah, yeah, Jacoby Walter.

He is probably gonna be a top five draft pick too. He is a killer. Yep, it'd be fun to have one of those. Baylor gets a blue chip freshman every year in Kansas. Well, Uh, Coach of the Year, I have to say that I'm gonna give this award to Rodney Terry. Uh. He really overachieved, as he always does, really scrap his way out to some wins. Now, in all seriousness, the coach of the year has got to be t j Alzelberger. Right, yeah, it's Oselberger McCaslin. I think a case. I also who's by U's

coach? I know the name is Mark Pope Mark. Yeah, A slight case. Just because those expectations. But I think I think also Burger should definitely get it. And Samson has a case too, He's built the best roster in the country. Bill. No, no, I'm not gonna be Bill, even though I don't know how much of that's really Bill's fault. But yes, I also Burger. I think it's I think Altera Burger has a case for National Coach of the Year. So I think that's I think

that's your answer, even if it was kind of fluky. Nonetheless, also, if you're not watching the Arch Madness finale on CBS, or you are missing a treat between Drake and Indiana State just playing am if you like threes something you didn't get to see a lot in the game you watched yesterday, I would encourage you to turn it on and CBS. It's very mkay.

Well, currently I got to La Galaxy and Nashville s c SO and oh well that one seventy nine seventy six and the other is one zero, So totally understand why you would choose the game that you're watching that's zero zero. Even better, Yeah, it's like if Kansas split their teams between each other and they only counted threes in a scrimmage. Most improved play in the Big Twelve. This is always kind of a hard one. Uh. People were trying to chuck up. I said is before the season, and despite his

alleged pedophilia, I think it's probably still him. Taman Lipsey's got a case too. He's turned into one of the best point guards in the Big Twelve. He's really fantastic. Yeah, Iowa State just gets point guards. Dylan to Sue might be the answer, honestly. Uh, he's before, but he was absolutely sensational as here. Yeah, next level monster. Micah Peevie is a dude that turned from like three points a game last year to like eleven or twelve at TCU. He's been good. Uh yeah, anybody except

al Marco Jackson. Sorry to keep piling on you, al Marco, but you know, can't. We have to be truthful here. Who is your most surprising team in the Big Twelve? Uh? I think that probably hmm. I mean I halfway almost want to say, UCF, Yeah that's what you like? A three win team? Yeah, Uh, it's hard to say that for a seven and eleven Big Twelve. All right, Well, if that if you're thinking it might be UCF because they won four more games

than you thought. Is there anybody else there that won four more games than you thought? Maybe the Cyclones, Texas Tech? Yeah you didn't think Tech would go seven? Well that's about right. Yeah, I definitely did not think they would be eleven and seven had a soft schedule, though, I'm gonna give it to Iowa State. I didn't expect them to be thirt,

which makes fine. They would be right there as well. Yeah. Also could be Houston, like really could they got a case in all that The most disappointing team is West Virginia, right, like that's that's just done hit honestly? Might be Kansas. Oh yeah, I forgot the obvious one. Might Yeah, disappointingly not even close. I don't think. Yeah, you're right. Number one preseason poll finishes sixth. Yep, that's the answer. Whoops, All right, give me five names for your all Big twelve team.

Jamal, shed Hunter, Dickinson, Yeah, probably Walter Yeah, yeap, it might have to be McCuller, but Dylan to Sue might be the other might be the real answer. I'd have a really hard time leaving to Sue off. Yeah, Houston. Also, you didn't say l J. Cryer. I maybe, Yeah, Shed and Dick Andson are for surelocks. I think Walter will get there. Statistically, the leader in the conference was mccullar in scoring. But can you put a guy on there that missed the

third of the games? I wouldn't do it. Now. That feels like a good second team. You can still reward him for the good year, but he don't Yeah, quite the publicity of the first team. Yeah, who is your white guy of the year. This is gonna be the guy that gave Kansas the most trouble And there really aren't a lot of options. You just want to give it to the entire BYU roster. Does that feel

like a fitting recipient? Ah, that's a good one. The season going out on the kid that looked like someone that could in the youth group that I leave knocking down threes for one Yeah, Case State didn't have a white guy, Oklahoma's white guy. Oh the who is the north Wetter dude that made like Luke Bedwetter that made three threes all conference play and they were both at Allenfield House. Yeah, that was crazy. That The YU roster I

think is pretty deserving though. All Right, we'll stick with that. Who is your Scott Drew Boob of the Year Award? Hm uh, it's probably Terry. I think grin with Terry yeah is pretty well. Dove that great call. And then as the music comes to a close, give me your Bruce Webber. Welp, he's getting fire award. I think you have, uh two recipients and only one of them is an actual coach. Joshan interim. I think this one's obvious too. It's poytant. It's poytant and honorable

mention. Porter Mooser, you probably deserve it. You deserve it, like in the office, whenever they gave Toby as you suck portmos just have a Daniel Jones seventeen passing touchdowns and seven interceptions a year where they went eight eight and one kind of year. It's like, you did just not atrocious enough to keep your job one more year somehow yep yep. And next year in the SEC they'll go eight and ten and will be like, should they fire a porter? Oh, well, you know they're on the babble. They

might get in. He needs a couple of tournament wins. Let's save his job. Every year we're gonna do this. It's eternal and endless. Other games, Well, this is gonna be a speed run here because we need to move. But we'll always make time to talk about Duke taking a fat

l at home. With most of the conference races already decided entering Saturday, it wasn't a particularly suspenseful afternoon, and honestly, the game's kind of sucked like Kansas, but we did get a verdict in the ACC as number seven North Carolina went into Cameron Indoor and took down number nine Duke impressively eighty four to seventy nine, and a game they controlled. They were up double digits most of the second half. Do get some late shots to make it look

a little closer than it was. The Tar Heels clinched the ACC crown thirty one points from future Ku killer Cormac Ryan. I can't even imagine if Kansas somehow draws him. Kyle philip House is not gonna be good enough to end up playing North Carolina. That's sad. Kyle Philipowski great a douchebag. Kyle Philipowski tried to trip somebody with the same leg that he thought was gonna need

amputated a week prior and John Shire is an imbecile. How many Big twelve coaches are better than John Shire. I think it's at least six, at least self, Drew Alzberger, Uh, those are easy, yeah, Samson, I would take mccas. I would take Dawkins maybe. Yeah, yeah, I look at the it's it's wild. I would. I would take Shire. I would take Shire over over Porter Moosure. I would. I have to admit that I know that's Sary. Yeah, I take him over

the SEC bound guys. But yeah, Kyle Philipowski, good on you for bringing the Grace Snell and back then he tried to act like he was hurt. He's like hobbling up the court, dude, we see through your herd antics. Duke deserved it. Duke's good, like they're twenty four and seven, But man, it feels like every time you're there, ready to take Duke to the next level, like ready to all. They've beaten some lousy teams, let's see how they prove themselves on the big stage. They're just

not really that competitive. I think they're a good not great team, which is okay, It's just it's not Duke on their curry team Number two Yukon put some polish on their biggest title, winning big at Providence seventy four to sixty to finish eighteen and two in league play. Behind them was a tie for second place between number eight Marquette, who won it Xavier by a handful, and number tend Graayton, who blew a thirty two to eight lead.

They were up thirty two to eight at Villanova and they had to win on a buzzer beater from Trey Alexander. They did end up getting the WINNI the way though, Big East. They have three legitimately really good teams entering the Big Dance? Which one do you think's going farthest? Yukon is gonna go the furthest But I think Creighton's better than Marquette. I trust Creighton better than Marquette. They're healthier too. Tyler Kolik is he healthy? He has to

be. He hadn't played in a while, He's missed two weeks with an oblique and his status is basically a shrug. If he comes back, he's an X factor that Creyton probably doesn't have. But without him, Yeah, and and Marquette, booth just shaka okay, at your own risk. In the SEC number fourteen, Kentucky continues to heat up. We are absolutely picking them two rounds further than we should in our brackets. This year, they scored a great win at number four Tennessee eighty five eighty one. Tennessee had

to end the year at Alabama at South Carolina, Kentucky at home. That's brutal. Dalton Connect, I'm looking at you, Wayne Kerk corrected the way we pronounced Dalton Connect has put up a forty burger and it wasn't enough. Ever, Notice how every team has a white that can shoot threes except for one dam In Kentucky's case, it's Reed Sheppard, who scored twenty seven point good seven threes. Dudes, ridiculous. He's shooting fifty two percent from deep.

This year, Reed Shepard had more had had more than half as many threes in one game as al Marco Jackson does in a season. He had more than double amount three's Kansas men in the last game he made as he made one fewer three than Hunter Dickinson has in conference play. That's I hate

this. I hate Kentucky's good final SEC standings. Tennessee wins the league, then a log jam Kentucky, thirteen Auburn, sixteen Bama who needed over time to be Darkansas, and seventeen South Carolina upset there they all tied thirteen and five one game back. Which of those teams do you think goes furthest than the dance? Go ahead and say Kentucky and all curb your enthusiasm us in a week. I think it is actually Tennessee. Uh. Of those next

I think they're the best and they have the best individual player. Yes, they're the best. But of the next group, is it Kentucky. Oh, it's not Alabama. It is Kentucky. Even though Kentucky and Alabama are essentially a clone of each other. I don't know if I can do that though, because Alabama's better coached, Kentucky's better tea. Yeah, that's the thing. I don't trust Caliperry at all anymore. Yeah. I mean, NATO's hasn't done anything in a tournament either. But still, like I I

it's Kentucky, it's Kentucky, Ana, South Carolina. Yeah, yeah, well that they're just untested. They feel like a six to eleven upset because they've never been there. Unless when nothing are going nowhere in the NCAA tournament is Missouri? Oh my? They became just the second team ever to go oh to eighteen in SC play, first time in over one hundred years. One hundred years. They didn't win a conference game. They battled hard,

but lost to LSU in the regular season finale. At least they weren't to Paul, who, via having a larger conference schedule, did technically have a worse record than the same winning percentage at oh and twenty in the Big East. They're three and twenty eight on the year. They played Nofah in the conference tournament opener. I think it's gonna be three and twenty nine, just the Hunts as well. What was Missouri's overall final record eight and twenty three.

That's really bad too, they are they went from seven to two to eight and twenty three, and yeah, they probably have one game left. You meant to say twenty lost Missouri team. That's right, Yeah, that's I meant. I just got it backwards. I have I have a disability that that makes it so I say it backwards. So that explains that don't please, don't ask questions. I will not be taking any further questions Big

Ten number three produced smashed Wisconsin, who is just freaking dreadful? They they are just awful to finish seventeen and three in league play number twelve and no, I finished second? Can you name who finished third and fourth? It's wild one of them must be Nebraska and Nebraska was four? Yep, And oh man, who would be third? Is it? It's tom Izzo? Just freak no, he's such balls, he is so much. I don't know the Big the Big ten, I really have no clue. And it's

that bad who finished with a twelve and eight and that's so great? Twelve and eight in the Big Ten? Northwestern three games better than tom Izzo is awful. Yeah, that was preseason Top ten Michigan State folks got five Michigan State. That was, wasn't it? Yep? AnyWho in a so much better conference? Obviously the PAC twelve USC? Is this true? USC bet Arizona by double dig That feels like not that feels like can't possibly be in the case it happened? Yep? Wow, Okay, that was in La

Arizona. That's fine, Arizona. What was your sentence? Here? Plays plenty of NCAA title contenders to lose to four No, I'm trying. I'm trying to butter them up. It's totally okay. Plenty of NCAA title contenders lose to fourteen and seventeen USC teams. Nothing to worry about. Number eighteen. Washington State would have a shot to tie for leg title had they not pooped their pants down the stretch at which they did, and that's unfortunate.

Washington State trying to get the first Pack two title out of the way, but they couldn't do it. Yeah, the Wildcats won the league at fifteen to five, but they're a troach. That league is just so bad. And Arizona another team that can score in a lot of points and also gives up a lot of points. The WCC Tournament, they're already at the semifinals Gonzaga and Saint Mary's. But everyone gets like five buys, so does yeah.

Yeah, the top two seeds get a bye to the semi final in that league, not playing as Pacific because they lost by about as many miles as the Pacific is deep. No way, the Pacific is only like six miles deep. That's how about wide pacifics thousands of miles wide? They lost by about a thousand points, So sad ranked teams to lose since the last show, there's a lot of high ranked teams here. Number four Tennessee lost to Kentucky. On number five Arizona they lost to us SEE. Number six

Iowa State lost to the Fighting Tangs. Number eleven Baylor the lost of Texas Tech. Here we have Kansas. They didn't escape. They lost fourteen. Kansas lost by one hundred at Houston. Future Kansas defeaters. Number twenty four South Florida lost to Tulsa. Yeah and uh then' that's all folks. Let's do ask GARCB. All right, we need to do a rapid fire around here so we can predict Kansas to win the Big twelve tournament with enough beats

to spare. If you ever have ascarcbs, you know what to do here. Let's start with camb Lipook Golf, who says, thoughts on, here come four names at you. Okay, I needed to rank them. Cracker Barrel, waffle House, Denny's. I hop never been to Denny's, never been to waffle house. Cracker Barrel is better than I hop, though, no, it's not. That's all bad takes one. I Hop, the rest or, crap, I Hop, waffle house, cracker barrel, Denny's. I would rather eat out of a dumpster than eat at Denny's, if

we're being honest. That feels right. That's everything I've ever heard about Denny's. Never been, never want to go. Yeah, I hop's good. Get out of here. I hop is very mediocre. I'll tell you what sucks, and I don't need to get onto a rant here. I hate first watch. First watch, I sucks. It's not that bad. The potatoes are bad. It's like putting toilet paper in your mouth. Oh, that feels harsh. That's some good stuff at first watch at Stefan Timmy seventeen.

How many threes will this man make? When number three Kansas plays number eleven Indiana State in the second round of the NCAA tournament, and it is a very white dude with goggles and a big cross tattoo on his arm, Like we're talking, however big you think this cross tattoo is double it? Yeah? I mean that's gotta be a nice five of six. Indiana State just lost the drake too. They're not even gonna get the auto bid, so we'll see. They may be sweating it out at AJSN Underscore Official.

Is it cinderblocks or bags of flour that are what Hunter Dickinson's hands are made out of? Both, yes, in their blocks wrapped in flower bags and then shoulder dot exe has stopped responding at Boom and Frosty. How much of our problems are because of transfers not understanding the history and what it means to play at Kansas. Players are already making a ton of money, so they don't need to play through injuries. Thomas Robinson and Frank Mason would never sit

out games if they were healthy enough. I mean, they weren't sitting out mccoller's playing this. I literally thought this was a parody question. I mean, it is kind of true in the sense that the tradition of hoops is kind of changing with the transferring or whatever. I don't think guys know as much. But also Hunter Dickinson knows his Kansas history and was very clear on that, and people think he doesn't care. Yeah, I could not disagree

with that. Take more. Totally deserve this from at Gannon property who his name is Big twelve Champs Number one Houston and it says is it time to rebuild the program. Yeah, I thought I would ever say it is not really not actually really, but that's yeah, you get your laughs in I'll i'll all out. I totally deserve it. At Drew Watten, do you have a history book that shows when the Jayhawks last won three games in a row. Yeah, it's actually it's it's the nineteen eighty eight World Book.

I just have to get it out and go find it's around then. I think the last time they won three in a row been a long time. Yeah. At Preston Skirsik, are you big sad today because I am big sad today? No, really sad. No, I don't. I don't have to be sad about a basketball game for very long. All right, I will take a we ask Dodge people name a basketball team that is gonna make the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament. Kansas survey says, oh,

rats, I am, I am sad. I am I'm not big sad, but I am sad at Elliott rus and h If Dickinson and mccullor are game day decisions the rest of the season, it's pretty much a wash, right, Uh, yes, yep, yes, it's it's it's bad also fun question, who do you think is the better player kus Tyon, Grant Foster or el Marco Jackson. Oh somehow Tyne never really got a chance though, Like, yeah, he did, he did, and he was atrocious.

All right, Well maybe that's true. I'm glad he wasn't a McDonald's All American, so my worst McDonald's All American take now, he was only the best Juco player that's ever played. If we are at show Mehawk, if we're able to avoid Iowa State in Houston case, I think we've got a good shot of winning the Big Twelve tournament title. Silence please, silence please. You can say that got the clown makeup and got the mister Rogers mask and the nose. No, you're right, though, that's the thing,

Like that they should win the first game. They've always handled Baylor in that setting. I State isn't super daunting, Like they do have a good path their path as the sixth day, don't They don't have a good path. No, their eighth lost Big Twelve team has a good path way Okay, their path as the six is better than it would be at the four of the five. Yeah, only because of Houston, though, I still takes bodies in that arena. They do, they do, It's there,

It's what they live for. More from Show Me Hawk, how come we haven't had Bill Farmer, Goofy's voice actor, sit courtside at Allen Field eals He was born in Pratt, Kansas and went to Kansas. Did you know that? I didn't know that. I learned something new. I didn't know that either. Every time I will be one hundred and I will see a picture of Goofy and I will think his actor wins to Kansas. Now like that is what I will think. Yep. A couple more from Show Me

Hawk. Sow one of those conference realignment projections going around and one of no, no, no, no, no, please please tell me this isn't real. One of them. One of them had Virginia in the Big Twelve. Oh my go as Big Twelve fans, Houston and Virginia to play forty to thirty. No, Houston's so much better. It'd be forty to zero. They are so much Virginia is not scoring on. Houston says, as Big twelve fans, we need to come together and make sure Virginia is banned

from the Big Twelve. Tony Bennett is not welcome here. Yes, while we're at it, we should reopen Alcatraz and throw Tony Bennett there just to make sure he's no. We're close to this precious sport. Would you rather have the big twelve fold and just dissolve into nothing? Or Virginia's in the league the first one. I don't want Virginia anywhere near my life. I hate them so much, Like you don't know how much I hate Virginia.

I might hate Virginia more than I hate the Broncos at this point. Wow, at show me hawk if over the season, I've grown to respect Houston in the same way I respect Baylor and a lot of the other teams in the conference agreed. Houston and Kansas should be a great rivalry for years to come. Two Hall of Fame coaches, and Houston's great, Like, there's absolutely no reason to dislike Houston except for if you're envious. Yeah, I

think that's pretty true. Houston's great. Uh, And I think we've actually moved through this pretty quickly here at Boom and Frosty. If I think Self is realizing his style of recruiting three four year dudes, making them learn his system, by sitting for a year or two is not how college works anymore. Transfer portal is just too easy for players and coaches. Not sure how much he sticks around, how much longer he sticks around. He said this before. He has said that he hates the way that this is. I

think a lot of coaches do. But I think you're right. Most of his best players, Wilson at Bogie, Mason Graham, they were they were four year guys that grew. He's really only had two electric one and Don's and that was Jackson and Wiggins. Grady Dick was good, Graty Dick was really good. But those are solid ones. Is Grady Dick his third best one and done? Because that almost feels displine counting Joel Embiid. Uh, Yeah, yes, I guess Embiid is a weird case to be fair.

Yeah, Grady Dick had a better year than Joel Embiid did at Kansas, right, but obviously, Yeah, that's where the comparison stops to this point unless Grady dig becomes one of like the four best guards in the NBA. And he's been a lot better too. He's been a good He's been really good recently at Boom and Frosty also says, who is Bill Self's eventual replacement? If we seem like we go through this a couple times a year. If if if I had two calls, my first call is Jay Wright.

I don't think he takes it, but I make him say no. My next call is Billy Donovan, who I don't think takes it, but I make him say no. If I need to call Scott Drew, Scott Drew's, I would go Scott Drew, Tommy Lloyd, Nate Oates. Those are my three in the current era of college basketball that I'm calling. I think a little bit of a buffoon, so I don't think i'd call him anymore. I think he's a little wacky, but I think he's a brilliant basketball

coach. Yeah, Scott Drew, I would one hundred percent listen to Scott Drew. The man can recruit. He's had more one and done success than Bill self lately. Yeah, much more. Do you ever have any ask arcbs? Use Twitter hashtag ask ARCB. We did a good job. Look at that we went fast speed run Big Twelve Tournament preview okay Land, and who do you have the Jayhawks beating in the finals themselves at Mario Kart because they'll have gone home on Thursday, so they'll have had plenty of time to

set up there. We whatever, we still think. I still play, I still play the Wii, I still play we Sports sometimes, sir, it's a good game. Nintendo switches. What you would play Mario Kart on if you were younger than you are. Yes, that's that's the And Mario Kart eight is not as good as Mario Kart Wei, so I you were missing out. So in this Big twelve tournament, Kansas, let's start with the Kansas preview. They're either going to play number eleven Cincinnati or number fourteen

West Virginia. The game will be on Wednesday night at eight thirty as long as Kansas plays until the finals, they're playing at eight thirty PM. Yeh fine for us. Not great, stay up until like ten thirty. I'm going camping the next day and you have to do a podcast in there until yeah. Oh my gosh, yep, are you leaving? Are you at leave at six am for camping? Guy? No? I hope not goodness.

I hope it's not that early. I think Kansas is going to draw Cincinnati because West Virginia just lost to them by a lot, But West Virginia is a little more familiar with this tournament, so it wouldn't stun me if they win. I think it's close. But this is a good enough first draw for Kansas. They're going to be they should. Yeah, there'll be a seven or eight point favorite. We don't know who they're gonna have on their color and Dickinson then who knows? Then big shrug. But we think

Kansas is going to beat Cincinnati? Correct? Yeah, I think they would be either of those teams. All right, So let's pick the other games and then we'll do Thursday, number thirteen Oklahoma State versus number twelve Central Florida, Wednesday at eleven thirty am Big twelve. Hoops. Boy, you thought the Thursday, the old Wednesday night tickets were cheap? Do you think? Sorry, that's Tuesday. I take it back. How much do you think

Tuesday morning Big twelve tournament tickets will cost? Should be less than ten dollars by lot, a couple of pesos at most. Yeah, I will take UCF to beat Oklahoma State, even though I could see that same logic here, we could go again. I don't have anything going on on Tuesday. Oh my gosh, how ugly are these games gonna be? We can get chicken tenders again. I I was sounding good, taamntion that not gonna lie though. I would rather take my shot with those chicken tenders again. Really,

I would then go to Pizza Street. Yeah, because I mean one of the odds, I get food poisoning twice, the same thing. And now food poisoning must be just horrendous because neither one of us had that bad of No, it was very tame as far as that kind of thing goes. Like can you imagine if you legitimately had like like hospitalization worthy food poisoning, Which is one of the things bothers me is when people get a stomach virus that last twenty four hours and they say, oh I had food poisoning.

That's unpleasant, not a fun way to spend a day. But food poisoning is like getting hit by a semi Compared to your I picked up a twenty four hour bug from a doorknob because I didn't wash my hands. Food poisoning makes you think about bad and not even that bad, right, Yeah,

exactly. Food poisoning, like in the severe case would make you question if death is the better option, right, And sometimes it can be about that bad and sometimes it can cause problems, like it doesn't just go away, and like like people think if they're fine three hours after they ate something, they're fine. Sometimes it can take weeks for like e coli to strike. Well, even with our thing, like neither of us felt bad going home. We were totally fine. Woke up in the middle of the night

and was like, oh crap, that don't feel too good. Really, yeah, yeah, because my tummy never hurt. It was everything lower than that. Yeah, exactly. It was not pleasant. But anyway, there be chicken tenders consumed here. I hope everyone. I hope everyone loves that tangent e cole I might be about as bad as West Virginia, but I still think that Cincinnati beats West Virginia. And I think that I think that UCF beats Oklahoma State. Yes, right, I think, yes, I

agree. I agree. Let's let's move on to the Wednesday game. So now you're picking a bracket. This is this is a Pickham point here through Wednesday, but you're picking a bracket at this point. So we would both have number twelve Central Florida against number five b YU. I don't want to pick too much chalk, but I think we probably want the Cougars. Yeah, I do, and I think they'll take care of UCF. Number nine Oklahoma versus number eight TCU on Wednesday. I do not care how Yeah,

but TCU is better. They are better. If Oklahoma goes one and done here, I want every team in the land to pass them on their way to it and missing the tournament because I hate them. And number ten Kansas, Number ten Kansas State against number seven Texas, I want one last time. I want to sit tang one more time. I want to do it. But I think Texas is just better, Like I think they're just a better team. I kid State normally plays pretty well in this tournament. They

feel like they eliminate TCU in it every year. But I will take Texas and I don't feel great about it. I kind of hope case State wins because I want to see him in the dance because it would hurt Oklahoma. And then we all want Kansas to beat Cincinnati. So okay, So moving forth, now into Thursday's quarterfinals, you would have four Texas Tech against five BYU. I will take the Cougars. Yeah, I think I would as well. BYU's playing mostly really solid basketball. Yep. Number one Houston against

we would have number eight TCU. I think it's close for a while, but I mean this is a this is that would be a revenge game for Houston. I think they eventually rip someone's throat out. Yeah, and then we'd have what I'm trying to do them on this Number two Iowa State against the k State Texas winner. Is there any scenario there that you don't want Iowa State winning? I think either team could give them a run, but

I think I would take Iowa State either way. I am gonna curb your enthusiasm up and pick Texas to take down Iowa State and their home court. I think Texas is a better roster than Iowa State. I truth the Cowboys, man, I know the Cowboys are a better roster than the Packers. Yeah. Yeah, on a roll with it. And then we would have three Baylor against six Kansas. I am going to it really really yeah.

Like again, if if mccula and Dickinson were to both play, and I knew that, I might feel a little better about Kansas, especially in Kansas City. But I don't know what's gonna happen. And then I'm gonna pick, and I'm not convinced that they aren't gonna just punt the rest of the season. I say, Kansas wins. Yes, I'm a Homer, give me Kansas or give me Semis. We'd have Houston, and BYU we probably want Houston. Yeah, I do want Houston. And then you would have

Iowa State, Baylor, and Kansas. Yeah, and I'll go with Bill. Come on, Bill, three wins in a row, Jayhawks to the finals, Iowa State because they just like I said, they just rack up bodies in that stadium. Mister mister I make ballsy calls going with a one v. Two final, and mister Kansas Homer going with a one v. Kansas final. Look at us really living up to our brand names. And then in the finals, I think Houston wins this tournament. It wouldn't surprise

me if they don't. But I think Houston beats Kansas and what would be a pretty close finale. Yeah, I Houston is legit one of Well, I think I think you're probably right. I think they are maybe the best team in the country. At worst, they are probably two. So I think they are gonna win this, So we think Kansas is really good at home. If their next game was at Allen field House. Is there any team in the twelve you'd pick to win if Houston played at Kansas on Wednesday

night? Would you pick Houston to win an Allen after watching what just happened, Yes, but that is one of the only teams I would take there. So Sprint Center is an Allen field House, but it is going to still be a very pro Jyhawk crowd. Kansas normally plays well injuries. The injuries factor in a lot in the mindset of this team at this point, factors in a lot because well, they lost three to the last four and

they just took a thirty point beat down. You don't think that they are going to I think at least one of mccullor and Dickinson plays, and that's enough to beat Cincy, and it's enough to at least be in a coin flip with Baylor or Iowa State or Texas or whoever's down there. Yeah, I don't. I don't trust them at all. I don't trust them at

all. I think they're done. I think they're very done. I think they lose to Iowa State if they play them, because that kind of neutralizes their fan advantage, right, and I think that they beat I don't know. I Baylor's never won this tournament. They've never played that well in it, which is why I that's how done I think Kansas is. I think Dan Kansas is completely cooked right now? All right, well, well it'll be it'll be pretty good. Well are you and I gonna do? So

what are we gonna do here? Because we're not gonna have nick services because these are all late shows. Are we gonna record a Probably pretty short? It would just be the recap because there wouldn't be other games. So ike Tuesday at some point, show a Wednesday show and then I'm out because we don't need to do a Tuesday show. They don't play till Wednesday. Well, oh that's true. I guess if we're not doing if we're not doing an official preview, then yeah, if we're just doing Wednesday, I can

only do Wednesday and then I'm I'm going campus for a couplets. Okay, all right, so you so what are we are we really doing? The after the after THEA? Is it one of those that they're up fifty five to thirty eight. We're just gonna like, let's just go before it ends. But we're gonna do a quick Wednesday night show to get it out on Thursday morning. Is that the plan? Uh? Yeah, I think if we try to do maybe a forty minute show we can do. That's probably

the plan. I can't imagine Kansas Cincinnati will be that interesting. So how it's gonna work is I will find a way. One of them might be a solo show. I can't promise if they win Thursday, I will keep posting shows for every day that they win. But when they lose, we may say, all right, we'll wait till everyone's back in a few days and then recap it. That probably sounds fair, right. We don't need to get an instant reaction loss show out on if they lose Wednesday night.

We don't need that. No, yeah, we can. We can wait until Sunday and record again. All right, Well, we'll go so you'll get a If they win, you'll get a show the next morning. If they lose, you probably won't get one until we have a bracket. That feels right, Yeah, I think that does feel right. All right, we'll do that. This is inside the paint on rock chalk flog. I

am sad. I am watching soccer. That's the Indiana Michigan State game is three to nothing, and that is already definitely more points than I've been scoring the same amount. It's the same amount of points as the soccer. Mike Woodson is as bad as soccer. I mean, that's that makes sense if you think about it. Soccer is great. Soccer is a beautiful game for ready, all right, Well, well, I don't criticize. I won't point out that you wouldn't know what a beautiful game is after watching Kansas your

whole life. You wouldn't have an idea of that. Like, if that's all you know, then not that many beautiful games now? Yeah? Gross? All right, well, we'll be back when they win again. How about that, which hopefully happens. Bye.

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