ITP: Baylor hands KU another loss in familiar fashion

Ass, that's all I got. How about that? For the for the I prepared an intro today, the baggary amounts of prep work going to this. That's that's just another day in the life of inside the paints. Or don't act like you don't know how that works. Happy to fiftieth planned and you've been on two hundred and fifty podcasts and oh you got a present to celebrate. Yeah, you're not wrong. All the recap all the milestone shows, I should say, are terrible games. They are yeah, one.

Yeah, So you're to celebrate your two hundred and fiftieth show, we are going to give a very touching tribute to how you are completely out of the pick em race. Now that's a great tribute, Like that is Yeah, that's how every year it's like Christmas at this point. Yep. That's it's because every time Landon has a chance, like I don't know if I have

this sound effects, this is the one I really really want. Yeah, here we go, here's Landon with a chance to win pick em yet think he's there, and then every time like like wow, you are seventeen games back, so you're about as far back behind Nick as Kansas is. Behind the one seed or one seeds at this point, it's true. Yeah, really, this is a really bad pick em go for me. I'm usually not this far back. This has been a really tragic, tragic loss,

a sad, sad loss, very sad sad loss. Yeah, then you and Kansas, this doesn't typically happen for them, are to them, But here we are Kansas with another loss. We've now done sixteen conference recap shows and seven of them, that is almost half, yes, have been losses. They lose to Baylor for what feels like the fortieth year in a row. And yeah, just the two man show today because Nick is too depressed that his tenure on the show's about to and to to is not depressed this,

Nope, he's not, but we're here. At least Nick is too busy trying to figure out who is going to be honored on Senior Night, because now we have no freaking idea who's a senior and who's not with the new rules. So yeah, you just get us today. I'm Ryan Lander, this is inside the paint. I'm Chip Gaines. Hey, that's he's very happy. He's been happy four years in a row. That Bill, you know, has gone down to Waco, because Bill cannot win in Waco

if his life or is to pay dependent on it. At this point, so many l's to be had, just like, just like, we're gonna take over the next hour and a half. But hey, at least the merry inside the paint drop will not be played today because they got there kick two, just like Kansas did. I told you they were frauds. Do you believe me now? Yeah? I should never trust the WCC team. Ever, Well, let's talk about Kansas and then we'll get to the amazing

WCC number fifteen Baylor eighty two, number seven Kansas seventy four. As another l for the Jayhawks, nick Nick wrote Baylor with four l's in Baylor because that's four losses in a row there, And it looked like Kansas had a chance at this one. They normally are in these games and just come up short. And even first half saw Baylor go on a run shortly after halftime, and the Jayhawks were never able to get it back to even within one

possession at any point. In the final thirteen minutes of the game. They made a push to cut it to four with just under two minutes left. A couple of painful misslayups. Afterwards, Dwan Harris had a circus shot. They're down four and you're like, okay, get a couple stops, and who knows, well they were unable to get said stops down the stretch and that results in their seventh maybe least painful, but still they all count the

same seventh loss in conference play. Yeesh. So what we always say after a loss, how about that? What are your thoughts? Just kind of feels the same at this point, I feel like they had a lead on the road and blew it. Yeah, that's essentially what I was gonna say. It is another loss. It's kind of that's how I feel about this one. I don't know, it's hard to give. I mean, I think I think k you played better. I think they played better basketball in

this game than they had in their last few losses. I think a lot of that is because Kevin mccullor was back, and he does give them a little X factor, even if he does do that at a very high volume and not a great efficiency, but I do think that helped. Yeah, I do think they played better, But I also like, yeah, I don't think. I don't think this team you and I were talking before the show. Ryan, you were saying that you think this team has several wins

left in them. Do you think they'll go on around in the Big twelve enough to spoil your take? And you think they'll have, you know, at least a puncher's chance to win some games in the tournament, which as long as McCuller is there, I think they have a chance. I don't

think that I could name. I don't know if I could name, I think i'd have a hard time getting the eight teams that I think are definitively better than them if they have McCully at least past five, right, Yeah, it was five for a while, and now I think some teams like Arizona and teams maybe like Iowa State. I'm sure not sold on that one completely, but kind of that neck of the woods North Carolina, I think

it's pretty safe to say those teams do appear better. But as long as they have mccullor, and I think they have the best coach, Yeah, I think they always have more than a fighting chance to win a game anytime out. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna have Like, I think there is a chance they'll weigh of ripping them. Are you are you pronouncing them dead right now on March third, You're you're giving it up. You're giving it

up for the twenty twenty four Jayhawks. I think so. I think I am at least as far as genuine expectations, Like could they get to the Big Tell Title Game? Yeah, absolutely, they could get to the Big Tell Title game, and they're blue jerseys. I don't think they're gonna win. I think they could make a run in the tournament, but I would be pretty surprised about a Final four. I mean obviously, again barring run,

barring draw, all of that. Like we saw, they mainly nice path and right, so if this Kansas team gets a really nice path, then you never know what's a percent chance they make They they win the first game in the NCAA Tournament, the first game, I mean that still should be like upper nineties. Okay, even even with this team's trouble, you think they're ninety percent plus to beat the thirteen or a fourteen seed. You'd

hope. So, I mean, obviously, sometimes those teams are a little better than they might seem seed wise, but yeah, that's where there's I still think Kansas is I'm not a minimum, like a ninety percent favorite to beat whoever they play in the first round. That's where there's a difference between the thirteen and the fourteen line. The thirteens are when you start getting a little feisty, yeore, Then yeah, thirteen has proven in the last several

seasons that they can take out a four pretty regularly fourteen to fifteen. If fifteen has been weird, eventually, eventually Kansas is gonna get beat by a fifteen. Guys, It's gonna happen at some point, maybe this year. I doubt it. I'd be progios. So, Okay, you think ninety percent plus to get on a round one, what's the percent chance they make to sweet sixteen. I think I'd say it's about sixty right now. I think that's a I think that's about right. But then again, we probably

would have said that many of the times. It has to be that most of the times that they've lost in the round of thirty two, for sure, Yeah, minimum sixty seventy. Sometimes we'd probably even have said eighty. And it's like a Stanford year or even last year. I think we felt memory mostly quite good about them getting out of the first weekend they didn't do

it. But yeah, I think that's about right, and I think it's after that, like I think if you get to the sweet sixteen, and I know Bill self is historically very good in sweet sixteens, but I think when you get to about then it starts to really really depend on who you're playing. Yeah, because I could see Kansas being given a bad matchup with A three if they are if there are two, or it looks more likely

they'll be like a three. At this point, I think maybe not if they beat Houston, and I don't know, which I don't think will happen, but yeah, so I don't know. I think I am kind of pronouncing like any high level expectations that I have are dead. I mean, last year's team was gonna play the eventual national champions Underseedd Yukon in the Sweet sixteen, and then you had a year prior where you get to the Elite eight and some team got to play fifteen seed Saint Peter's. It's such a

crap shoot. So yeah, definitely will depend on the draw. And if you believe in law of averages, after last year, they're good, they're due for a good draw. They got to one thing at a time, They got to be K State, and then after that, you know, go down to Houston and play with house money, try to be the number one team. The way that I worded it on Twitter, and I'm pretty proud of the wording here is nobody has actually deflated or bummed that they lost

that game. It would have been nice to put that one in your pocket. It certainly wasn't one with a schedule came out even when we thought this was going to be a team that won this conference. That was one of the two games that we thought, yeah, that's probably gonna be one of their l's, right, more likely than not. That's a tough game. They Baylor's been really good, however, many years in a row. That's a tough one. You're not bummed because they lost to Baylor by eight.

You're bummed about the record, the nine to seven record that has happened as a result of losing a lot of games that you should be bummed about, Like if they just had taken care of their business in the games where they were up ten plus points in ucf K State, BYU and West Virginia, then they're thirteen and three right now with three losses to the teams that are

currently in second, third and what fourth I think in the conference. So that and then you'd be thinking there just about what they always are because Kansas has not defeated a team that has finished top five and the Big twelve on the road since twenty twenty. By the way, they can't beat the top teams in this league on the road all of a sudden. That's been a thing for a little bit. But that's why you're bummed. The Baylor game.

This was Bill self said that this was one of the least discouraging losses of the year. But the losses have really started to stack at this point, and you're looking at needing to win at least one tournament to likely avoid ten losses. They may have ten losses before they get to the NCAAs, which is it's been a while since that's been the case. That's just a bummer, Yeah it is. And again, I mean, like you said, losing the Baylor by eight in a vacuum is not all that tragic.

I mean again, they've lost them many times. Baylor is one of the premier teams in this conference, and they're very good they're very talented, So yeah, I don't think I don't think Baylor's a worthy team to lose too. This is not UCF or West Virginia, a team that, like you

really got to scratch your head at that you took an l there. But I think it is more about what it signifies, and I feel like it signifies kind of what I feel, at least to a lot of people, is that I think this was more the true like it feels like Kansas is kind of just like done, which then again gives a team like this true house money feel where like if expectations at Kansas's standard are gone, you could

play pretty loose. I feel like at that point you should be able to because you're not expected to do anything and you're still Kansas, so you should be able to go into a lot of games knowing that like having some amount of pressure off your shoulders because you're not you're not expected to win, so we'll see. That's always kind of a wild card with teams like this. But yeah, I think it's a very disappointing thing to see because I feel

like it kind of signifies and by you definitely did as well. But with mccullor back and still losing. I do feel like it kind of signifies in a sense the end. If they had just won that BYU game, then they've won three out of four and we're thinking, like, hey, Baylor's one, you expect to lose too. They're still in third place, and

you'd feel a lot different. That BYU gag is the reason that they're in sixth instead of third right now and the would be Big Twelve Tournament standings like that's a huge factor right now, and yeah, they never should have lost that game. Make some free throws, that is, and that is why people should be encouraged about their chances of winning the Big Twelve Tournament. A few free throws are the difference between this team being a six seed and the

three seed. That goes to show how close all these teams are, how good of a chance they are. Their chances of winning the Big Twelve Tournament that much lower wing a six seed than a three and most years it would be. This year it's not because they're all kind of the same team. After you get past Houston, I think Iowa State is right in that same category with the BYUS and the Texas Techs that that that that the number two

in the seven seed isn't that big of a difference. We'll see, and Kansas gets a shot at Houston this weekend, playing the number one team in the country. You know who knows what could happen. They beat him last time. We've already talked about how this is the most conference losses in a season for Kansas in thirty five years, since Roy Williams first year in nineteen eighty nine. That's a long time. You knew that. What we need

to talk about the three point shooting. We really haven't talked about this a lot on this show, but it is a mounting trouble and the stats blew my mind whenever I looked them up in more detail. Kansas made just four to threes against Baylor. They took forty five twos and thirteen threes, and they shot sixty two percent on twos and thirty one percent on threes. They shot fifty five percent in this game and lost. They shot more than fifty

percent against UCF and lost. They shot more than fifty percent against West Virginia and lost. And they shot more than fifty percent against BYU until the end. And law the reason they're not getting enough threes. It leaves you no room for error in a conference when you are consistently getting beat by at least a few threes a game. Kansas has only made more threes than their opponent once in sixteen conference games. Johnny Furfey is their only player shooting thirty percent

or better in conference games. Do you want to talk about a huge problem. You have to shoot sixty percent plus on twos just to have a shot with how they're only gonna give you three or four threes at a time, and then you're still gonna be minus fifteen on shots by the three point line most nights. That's a killer. Yeah, And that's that's been a problem

with the last couple teams. Now, obviously last year had Grady Dick and Jalen Wilson, and those guys could give you some threes, and it was really more so like after that, after those guys, and even Wilson would go very cold. Sometimes after those guys, it was like, can anyone else give you threes? But on this team, it really is can anyone give you any amount of three point shooting? And the answer is barely barely yes. That you can't even get anything out of these guys from the from

beyond the arc. Truly insane stat that you pointed out Ryan, in their last seven games, Kansas has surrendered thirty seven more threes than their opponents and are minus one hundred and eleven points on three point shots plus ninety three on twos and free throws. And they're three and four in the last seven games minus one hundred and eleven from behind the arc. Is And I don't think it's the defense. Like some people see that stat they think, wow,

they're giving up to many threes. Is what is thirty seven threes and seven games. That's not even six threes per game. That's more than their opponent whatever. So they're about a minus seventeen on points per game from behind the three point line. But they've only given up like what is that like seven or eight threes a game something like that that they're allowing. Like the defense isn't the problem here. The problem isn't their opponents are making a ton of

them. The problem is if Kansas could make six threes a game, they probably have three or four more wins on their schedule. Yeah, I do think three point shooting is a big problem, and these are the kind of things that are also, like, I think, really easy to look at and be very pessimistic about what this team is because they're getting games where they're shooting well, very well, even shooting over fifty percent really solid. Shooting

over sixty percent from two is really good as well. And you're getting good performances from mccohler and from Dickinson Asen McClure when he's been playing, you're getting you're getting your main guys to play pretty well for the most part. Obviously we've talked a lot about what kJ Adams is and does, but like and you still just can't pull out wins, Like you still just can't win games consistently, even when you're getting everything you theoretically need to win, and that's

a really disappointing problem. I do think someone that comes to three point shooting, especially in closer games games you're losing by eight, when you're getting completely outclassed from behind the arc, if you just make a couple more, all of a sudden, it's a game. If you go six of thirteen, you know you're down two, and then that's a totally different atmosphere late than

what it ended up being. So yeah, I don't know. I think that's a reason why I've been pretty disappointed and pessimistic is that I feel like Kansas has gotten a lot of games in a lot of their losses. Kansas has gotten theoretically performances that should be wins nine times out of ten and they're l's. And I think that is something you can look at and say is a true reason why I just don't really have faith Because most Kansas teams, when they're doing the things they need to do to win, they win.

But this Kansas team often does things they need to do to win and still loses. And that's why I have a really hard time having any genuine faith in them at this point. Well, I'm looking at their college reference page and they pay. They play at a pretty slow pace. They're three point percentage on the year, thirty four percent. That is almost exactly in the middle. That's one eighty four out of three sixty teams, almost exactly in

the middle. They are a completely average three point shooting team, but they've only attempted seventeen threes per game, which is in the bottom twenty five nationally, So they're not shooting the ball at all from three in conference play, they're shooting just thirty one percent on threes, one of the three worst records in the conference. Fewest three's made fewest threes attempted in conference play. They also are the scoring is down, it's continue to drop throughout the course of

the year. They're a very good defensive rebounding team. They're very poor on the offensive glass. Part of the reason for that is because they're a very good two point shooting team. There's not a lot of two point misses to rebound like there would be for other teams. But whenever you have a team that doesn't crash the offensive glass and a team that doesn't shoot threes, you are really limited. It's yourself to two points per possession at best, because

they're not getting the offensive boards to get and ones. They don't have a great free throw draw rate. They're an average free throw shooting team, and they're not making threes in conference play. Parker Brown, Michael Jankovic, Jamary McDowell, and Almarco Jackson are all shooting better than forty percent, but none of those guys have made more than four in conference plays, so we're not even gonna count those. Johnny Furfey thirty eight percent. Everybody else bad.

Mccullor twenty nine point eight, Harris twenty nine point four, Timberlake twenty six point three, Dickinson twenty one point two, kJ Adams zero. Though, I mean that is just that's apocalyptic whenever, and that explains why the offense isn't very good. One guy we thought would make threes Kevin mccullor, but he didn't do any of that in this game. I guess there are other things to talk about with him. What did you make of his performance as

he played for the first time in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I think we went right back to having a loss that wasn't really Kevin mccullar's fault. He returned from jury, he had twenty points. He needed nineteen shots to get the twenty points, but he still had twenty points full line, twenty points, five rebounds, two assists in thirty two minutes. Nine of nineteen shooting was for five from behind the arc, dropping his three point rate

in conference play. As you said, Ryan under thirty percent, which is pretty bad, very bad. But again, McCuller, if we talk about this every single every single year, right, we said at the beginning of the year. We need to see that three point rate stay up. Kevin mccullor has never shot better than twenty nine point eight percent in conference play in any of his four seasons of his career. It's not he is who he is. It's not gonna happen. Yeah, which which does suck. But

again I do think not really his fault. I think he did a lot of good things for Kansas in this game. I think he played pretty well, especially having not played very much lately, So I don't know, I can't really be mad at him, even though, oh, for five would have been really nice to be two for five obviously, or even I thought he played well. I thought he played well, especially its three end.

Played in a while and people complain about how the shots. Okay, somebody's got to shoot the freaking ball, Like like, did you see every time Furfy or Harris has a semi open three, they didn't shoot it. Somebody has to fourteen from inside the arc and that's all his points with that hoss. Yeah, and the and the one of the five misses was just a horrendous miss. Ye. That layup miss was unreal. That was when you feel like it was over because they were making a push at that point,

they could have cut it. It was a real game right there. Yeah, it's frustrating. No, mccullur played fine. I think it's people are trying to analyze how hurt was he actually because he didn't look hurt. He goes out there and plays well. Self. Get I'm not really concerned about any of that. I'm glad he's playing. I hope he plays the rest of the year. I much more care about Kevin mcculor being healthy for the

however many games they have left. Then I would have had him for that BYU game and flip it like, Ultimately the BYU lost isn't gonna dictate what happens in March. Having a healthy Kevin mccoullar definitely could. So it's good to have him back. He is probably their most I don't know if he's their most important player because his name is not Hunter, but he is there.

He is their best player, I think all around four straight els for Kansas in Waco, we look kind of stupid with this drop Scotch because he has now beaten built four straight years of presidential terms worth of home wins for Baylor and spanning two different arenas, mind you. Uh, the only it's only the second time that Kansas has lost four in a row in a road venue under self? Can you name the other time that they lost four in a row on a road Uh, feels like it's either Morgantown or still Water,

I think one of them. Yes, that's the correct answer. So Kansas had a four year run where they lost in Morgantown with four straight conference champions with two seed, two seed, one seed, one seed. All of them lost up there, and some of them got blown out too. They had a number one team get blown out there. The Josh Jackson team got blown out up there. The Wiggins team despite forty one, got blown out up there. In the Baylor games, they have all kind of been

the same. They all kind of feel like they're like eight point losses and half. I feel like they're all relatively close for a second near the end, and then Baylor makes it kind of that late push. Yeah. Pretty pretty frustrating place, and it is a cool new arena. I will say I would like to see Kansas get a win there soon. Gross All right, let's talk about Hunter here. Dickinson had twenty points on nine of twelve from the floor. I think it was his best first half in a while.

They came out getting them the ball. He had a couple of dunks, which was nice. He only had six rebounds. The rebounding was a problem. We're gonna talk about that in a minute. Dickinson still led the team. He also had four blocks, which was good. Kansas's interior defense was really good until it wasn't. Then Baylor started picking it apart after it turns in or eaves me c as they were saying, turns into uh like freaking of chem Elijah on against Kiss. Apparently, yes he does, and

he is gonna be a high draft pick. Everyone's like he's a good player. Part of the reason, and I think he looks really good is because he's a super athlete going against the center that's not super athletic. He had a couple of nice plays. He also can't miss a free throw against Kansas,

which you can't blame Dickenson for that. So Hunter in this game because Parker Brown tweaked his foot and he scores a bucket and in that awful run of Bill self saying let's play all the subs quick time out here, we get right back to Dickinson. What the frick was that Bill Kansas starts the game, and I know Baylor came out of the zone and that was a

huge part of it. So like, it's not just Bill here because Baylor adjusted Kansas comes out starting five, the offense actually looks good and like age seven or something like that integrated. Yeah, it was like twelve to seven. Uh, they're tearing apart this like one three one. The ball's moving like, players are open, shots are dropping, getting dunks. And then Bill's like, huh, this is really looking nice. What can I do?

Let's put in all four of my bench pieces, none of which are getting Let's leave caj the guy that's been the most arguably problematic of any of the four or five starters in the game as well. And guess what happened. It looked terrible. What was going like this? And then he had the audacity to do that like three more times, to put his whole bench in the game at once. What's going on? I think that was a we keep blowing second half leads because my starters are too tired after playing the

whole first half. I'm gonna try to get them all some rest. When I can, but then that just makes the collapse happen in the first half, so it really didn't fix any of that. Parker got hurt, so he didn't he wasn't there. Hunter played the final thirty minutes, and I thought Hunter played fine, Like there's a there were a couple of moments in typical Hunter Dickins in fashion where you're like, oh, man, it'd be nice to be just freaking dunk the ball, but twenty points in the team

lead in rebounds, Like I feel like that. People are more irritated at Hunter for his stats. Whenever it's like most games, you go, oh Hunter, let him in points and rebounds, darn, I wish he'd do

more, And that's just not really fair. He was he was, he was good, and he scored twenty Yeah, to be fair with a lot of the cruisism with Dickinson, he's sort of a product of his own talent, like because he's so good and because his expectations were so high and he hasn't maybe like but that statistically he's hit his expectations completely, if not even slightly exceeded them. He's leading the conference in points and rebounds. He's absolutely been a home run for him. Yes, yeah, I do think there

is a little bit of extra, like weird criticism. He's absolutely a great player. He's one of the best centers that Kansas has like had in the Bill cellf Arah, He's I think he's top three at worst. I think he's probably I think he's the best. Don't tell Twitter, they're not happy about it. If I could have any center in the Bill self era, I would take Hunter Dickinson. He is extremely good. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, you Dook has a bookie, I might might

take on a better team. But nonetheless, I do think he's been very good, and I think he was he was really solid in this game. He started out extremely good. Yeah, Dickinson. And let's just go out of the rebounding here, because Baylor didn't miss a lot of shots, so you're not gonna have huge rebounding numbers. Kansas was minus eight in the game with just twenty three boards, so Baylor didn't have a ton either. Twenty

three for Kansas. kJ Adams had one and thirty five minutes, and it came in the final minute off a miss free throw that was completely uncontested, so it really doesn't even count kJ. Let's talk about kJ and how it relates to the rebounding. You know my thoughts. I'm not gonna sit here and take up another one hundred beats about how Kj's a liability, how how you can't have a four man that doesn't rebound or shoot. And everyone on Twitter is like, what do you want to do instead? Oh, they

can't do anything else. They this is the roster. They've walled themselves into a corner with this. I would entertain putting fur fema color in Timberlake with Harris and Dickinson out there. That would help. And someone else was like, he doesn't crash the glass, He's not being instructed to. That's true, But last year he was the five and couldn't rebound either. It's the same rate. He's not a rebounder, despite looking like he has the athleticism

to be one. kJ three for three from the floor in six points, one rebound, four assists, four fouls thirty five minutes. He can't rebound. When you can't rebound and you can't shoot threes, which are the big problems on this team right now. kJ is a micro OSM of this team. When they play fast when they get points in the paint, they're pretty good. They look really good. Whenever they're not making shots, oh my,

yikes, they can lose to anybody. Yeah. I think we've talked about that decently obviously on the show, and I think that's super true. I think kJ Adams he's good, but he his problems are the team's problems in that Yep, they can't really shoot very well and they struggle at rebounding at times, and those are Kj's main things. Is that he can't He's not an offensive thread outside like ten feet at least scoring scoring wise. Again, he is a good passer and he can do things, but scoring wise,

he's not gonna do much outside of the paint, hardly anything. He will do nothing outside of the paint. He has not done. He has never scored a point in his career outside of the paint. He has he's hit a couple jumpers, maybe by a foot outside the paint. But you know what I'm what I mean here. I My prediction is Bill Self will fix it next year. I do not think Bill Self is going on. I think they go back to four round one and Flory and kJ come off

the bench. They're not gonna ke that. Yep, But I think that's what you gotta do. I think you're gonna go get a six nine stretch four that's gonna play as many men. I think Kj's got a role. I think that kJ, and he may not want to do this self, may say, hey, I want you to be my sixth man or seventh man and play twenty minutes off the bench and go out there and be my

true energizer Bunny. But I can't play you that much because everybody, and kJ may say, Okay, I'm gonna go look like a freaking god at Steven F. Austin because it'll work there, you know. I don't know, but I don't think that they're gonna run this book in the SoCon or whatever. I think he oh my god, eighteen a night or something like he would be psycho. Yes, but it can't. You can't run this back if Dickinson leaves, Okay, you can look at other options for with

kJ. You cannot do Dickenson and kJ thirty minutes plus again next year unless you put three sharp shooters around him. If Hunter leaves, you can't do Flory and kJ because Flory can't pop out at all. Right, Flory and kJ would be a worse version of what you have now with Dickenson and kJ. Yeah, because obviously Hunter can, even though he's been a very bad shooter lately, he can at least play out there where Flori is not gonna

be asked to do that. I don't know what's gonna happen, but Hunter, kJ Flory are the three bigs and Clemens two, which Clemens lemonst a transfer right, at least Clemens makes sense to be that kind of stretch for a little bit. More like, at least Clemens can rebound the ball. I'm not saying he's better than kJ, He's not better than kJ, but that's the sort of mold I foresee them using next year, Uh, every bit as much as a kJ T. You can't roll with the three with

the two big jf now and Floory next year, you can't. You have to change it somehow. Yeah, because they're gonna have this guy too, Dwan Harris, who will not walk on Senior night because Bill self said he's already told him he wants to come back, and he played really well in this game. Still, some people on Twitter are saying they need a new point guard Okay, I don't know what game you watched. Harris was really good. Twelve points, six of eleven from the floor. The shooting percentage

continues to rise. Thirty eight minutes, he had nine assists and three steals, just two turnovers. He should have had about fifteen assists, but every person he passed the ball to miss the shot. It was unbelievable. It was like, you know how people joke about how Mike Trout and Shoeo Tani

hit five home runs in a game and the Angels would still lose. It's like the one bounces the ball between his legs through three defenders and hands it off to Kevin mccullor right at the rim, and like he should have had twelve or fifteen assists, he was throwing dins. No one could make anything. Yeah, that's a tough night, especially when the shooting percentage from three is what it is like, you know, for anyone literally like knocks down

some more threes. He's got a couple more. Well. People wanted to see Dewan Harris play better in conference play, and he is shooting. His two point percentage is an even fifty percent in conference play. Remember, and that's better than is. That's that's a career high. By the way, his fifty percent two point percentage of Big twelve play. Remember when it was like thirty six and everybody was like, he sucks, this is the worst player ever. The last three years were a fluke. It's like, no,

he's been he is. In conference play, Dewan Harris is averaging ten points, six assists, two turnovers, fifty percent two point shooter, thirty percent three point shooter. He has not been your problem. This is what I was saying a little bit when you guys were saying he's definitely regressed. I was confident that he would be. I always fought the good fight with the one on this one because people acted like he couldn't make anything at the

rem anymore. Nick Setti regressed. Yeah, I never thought I thought he was gonna slump a little bit. But I did not think he was actively worse. I thought he was more so product of what was happening around him. Yeah, just think it's still true his assist numbers would be higher if anybody could make a three point shot. He has a career high and assists despite the last two years considering who he played with. That's that's a statement

in itself. He's been he's been great the bench. We talked about that, Bill selves hockey. Let's patuone this pitch decision, it didn't work. How about Jamary McDowell's shot, Dude, that was Yeah, you remember whenever kJ Lawson did that a few times. Jamary McDowell, as they're making a push, is like, what if I launched this eighteen footer? Nope, didn't even hit the rim. However, l Marco Jackson also didn't hit the rim a ton, but in a good way. Here we go. Here

he was. He was good in this game, more so than normal. At least he had eight points three or four, shooting two of two from three in fifteen minutes. He did foul out. Yeah, that was Nick Timberlake to nothing in seven minutes. El Marco is decently better than Nick Timberlake, a lot better than Nick Timberlake defensively. It really left Bills off no choice in the second half. But any hope for el Marco here and to

be fair real quick and then I will let you go. Ryan. I this is some of the reason why I think el Marco could benefit from staying. I don't know if he's going to because they do have two relatively high profile freshman guards coming in and Dwan Harris is staying. But I think El Marco has something interesting to offer. Okay, I do too. I would like to see him stay. I don't want to see him transfer. I don't think he will stay because usually McDonald's All American doesn't work out, then

they recruit more and they grab transfer over you. Usually your coach doesn't have a ton of success. If your first year as a McDonald's All American was a tremendous flop, that you're gonna explode in year two. Uh. We kind of wondered if that would happen with Wayne Seldon, and ever since, it's kind of been that same way. I would like to see al Marco

stick around. I'm not gonna get too excited about eight points. This is kind of like when Timberlake made two threes and we're like yes, and you look down at the box score and he's got eight points on three for eight from the floor, like, wow, that's the best game of his season. Almarco, I'm glad he made a couple threes when they were getting beat by ten, Like, hey, fouls out couldn't play any defense. He

is better than Timberlake defensively. But I mean, yeah, I guess I'm not getting too excited about it. I let's see, it happened a few more times. I didn't really get super excited about it because what is there really to be excited about here? But well, what's there excited to be about? When you talk about the reft? You know, Kansas has shot twenty nine fewer free throws and their opponents in Big twelve play. Oh those Allen field House refs. I have a ref story for you, all right,

let's do it. Is it about how they called eighteen fouls on Kansas versus seven on the Bears. There's that one, but I do have another one. That one's bad, though. So I went to the Sporting home opener Sporting KC. Oh, yeah, I want this story. Yeah, on Saturday, and Sporting was winning one. Nothing. They'd played not great, but they had outplayed Philly. At least they played Philadelphia. And MLS is the MLS, to be fair, is having a ref lockout right now,

and they're not paying their refs. So I've never actually said that you should pay your refs, but please please pay your refs, because it can't be already bad refs are out, so now the wors replacement refs are there. Every sport has tried this and it's been bad every time, Like literally, yeah, I don't know how they thought, like, no, we'll just let them stay locked out. I'm sure the replacement refs won't be as

bad. Have you watched any other sport? And so at the very end of the game, sporting's winning and there's like, you know, it's deep in stoppage time. There's maybe a minute left of the game, and uh, you know, the players were fighting for the ball near near the out of bounds and the ball goes out of bounds and it goes off a Philly player, and I'm sitting on the side where it goes out, so I

have a pretty decent look at it. And not only and this does not require a pretty decent look, by the way, if you know the play on talking about it didn't require me to have a great look to know what happened. But I did have a good look. Not only is pretty obviously

out on a Philly player. There's only like two other players standing near him who are both also Philadelphia players, like a sporting player physically could not have touched the ball going out, but the refs give the ball to Philadelphia, which inevitably turns into a controversial corner kick, which turns into Philly's game time goal, and the refs got booed out of the stadium rightfully, so in

that regard, So that was my reft story today. I usually don't like talking about the refs, but that was one of the greatest, Like, the refs truly took a win out of a team's hands because of just a blatant, egregious miss, and it was kind of disgusting. Sounds like officials, sounds like every officials I've ever watched. There was there was just an apocalyptic ref show most weekends in college basketball, and there really wasn't any this

week. So I'm glad there was one in the soccer game that you were at, because they're they're everywhere and they're never gonna get better. Ever, speaking of never getting any better, Kansas's offense, while Johnny Furphy's on the bench, I figure you'd want to talk about this one here. Six points all early got off to a pretty good start, made a three quickly, three rebounds in twenty four minutes, but that was the only bucket he made.

He was one of five from the floor, and then he played seven second half minutes as Bill self was determined twenty twenty one style to make a full comeback without using any threes. How's about Bill needing a comeback and keeping his best and legitimately only decent three point shooter on the bench the whole time. Yeah, that was gross. That was really gross. I had no that Bill had truly an outing he had. He had a coaching performance of

all time in this game. It was pretty bad. He didn't even try to timber Land, which I'm not exactly a huge proponent of, but I would have tried that late in the game where I needed some shots at least well Jackson. Jackson was playing well, and Harris McCuller and Dickinson are gonna play. The issue was kJ. He left kJ out there when two by two isn't exactly doing the job and kJ couldn't play defense at all in this

game. Yeah, that's the guy that I'd like to see subbed out for Furfey or timber Like, Yes, whenever you're trying to make a comeback, because Ffrey is better rebounder than kJ by a country mile. Like, it's not. I don't know with the acception of dunks, I don't think kJ is better than Furfey at anything, not really. And jumping, yeah, jumping is about the only one. Yeah, probably defense. Honestly, Furfy's pretty wolful on defense, like he he is. He was picked on in

this game Baylor was at the beginning of the season. But he's not. He's not elite. We go back and forth on this all the time. Is he gonna come back? I don't know, man, I want him to. I kind of don't think he should for his career, but I don't. I mean, six points and three rebounds one to five from the floor doesn't exactly scream I'm gonna star for the you know, Raptors next year. This might make you scream, but I swear I'm rating it. NBA

draft dot Net has Johnny Furfy going twelfth and Kevin mccullor going fourteenth. That's the last pick of the lottery. Yeah, Kevin mccolly is, Like that shows you the utter like weakness of this draft. And I really hate to say that, because Kevin mccullor is a good basketball player. It's not that he's bad, it's just that he's not a prototypical NBA prospect, like in any way, he's old, he's not even particularly athletic. He's more defense

first. He can't shoot threes at a super high level, and he's not like a great point guard or anything like. I don't that's crazy. That's very strange. Like it really is bizarre. Uh, but you know that's that's where we're at in this game. Fifty five percent from the floor, thirty one percent from three, and seventy five percent of the line. They only took eight free throws. Love those Kansas refs minus eight on the glass were the Jaybirds? Any closing thoughts on this? You know, it's seven

conference losses. I'm going to reiterate what I said at the very beginning. This isn't one that makes you feel sad. The fact that you feel sad is because you saw the record, and the record is because they have been lots of games that made you feel sad. Yeah, I think that's the best way of sumon up that you said earlier. I think I think it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I think it's just too bad.

I think it's indicative of how this Kansas team has gone all season, and to a lot of extent, it's a lot of what I was worried about coming out of non con. They had some really lackluster performances in non Con. At the time, I thought they were just playing down two opponents they knew they could crush, and they turned it on when they had to,

and that's sort of what happened. But then those types of performances have been rather pervasive in conference play, definitely away from home, much more so than a now in field house, obviously unless you're BYU, in which case you win. But unfortunately that has kind of proven true in conference play, and that Kansas is just They're not really a great closing team. They're not really an elite team, unfortunately, and they got a week left in the regular

season before the postseason starts. They've never been worse than the five seed in the Big Twelve tournament since it started in nineteen ninety seven. They're the sixth seed right now if the tournament started today, and they may have to win at number one Houston to get higher than that. So make no mistake, this team is still infinitely better than the twenty twenty one team. Yeah, oh yeah, this is the worst bill self team takes have got to die,

Like that's horrible. No, it's not. They're better than nineteen, they're better than twenty one. They might be better than thirteen fourteen maybe at this at least, maybe at that, maybe at at the state that that fourteen team was at the end, maybe, but at their best that that fourteen team went from I think they're one of the three best teams in college basketball to oh, they're buns with one player getting hurt, which essentially is

how this team has gone with no players getting hurt. Sort of yeah, love when that makes sense. Big twelve games were down to the final three sets of Big twelve games. Here comes another one, number one in Houston eighty seven Oklahoma eighty five. Super high scoring event and kind of surprising considering Houston's defense, but the result not that the surprisense. Yeah that maybe that's

true too, but the result was not a surprise. Yeah. Houston led by fourteen with ten minutes left, only to see Oklahoma go crazy against the best defense in the country. They tied the game with eleven seconds left, but Jamal shed switched a game winning four inside the final two seconds to lift the Cougars to the win. LJ. Cryer also had twenty three points. Oklahoma shot fifty three percent against the Houston defense. But Porter Moser drops to

oh and forty five in big games. Is that true or is that just the thing you said. I mean, I went back and counted he's owing forty five in big games. I think it could be owing forty six. Give or take name the biggest Porter Moser win at Oklahoma. I cannot think of one noteworthy basketball he has TCU or something. Yeah, you know if he's BTCU. He's never beat Kansas, so you can take all that out of it. He like, I don't need this team in the tournament.

They've had chances, Like I would rather see every year when I when I pull for some mid majors to get in the tournament, it's like, I don't need to see exceedingly boring Oklahoma. Yeah, for whoever it is, give the twenty seven and five team that you're like, they don't have a lot of quality, went give them a shot. We know what Oklahoma is. Oklahoma might be like quote unquote better, and I know they're super boring. I'd much rather see a potentially interesting mid major team, even if they're

qute unquote less talented, and they've had less chances than in Oklahoma. Who cheese. You play ten opportunities, you gotta win four of your ten most difficult games to get in the dance, and they can't do that. Very common, especially at this point, for mid majors to make at least the lead eight. Yeah, yeah, they're clearly teams with quality records in lower leagues are closer to the middle of the pack power league teams than ever before.

Give them a chance, give them a chance. We've seen Oklahoma lose in the first round enough times. Number eight, Iowa State sixty u se F fifty two. I'm not quite sure how good Iowa State is. They are still in second place. I kind of think that Iowa State is a little bit fraudulent, but you know, they are twelve and four. These two teams were tied fifty to fifty with three minutes left, but the Cyclones were able to end the night on a ten to two run, keeping a

game behind Houston in the Big twelve race. Trey King led the way sixteen points for him. UCF was a combined or UCF was one four nineteen on threes, Iowa State five for twenty one. That six combined makes those two teams combined to make twenty one threes against Kansas. It ain't all defense man. Kansas has had some weird misfortune in their season. I think Iowa State's

had a lot of good fortune. Would it's done you if Iowa State was the three seed that lost to a fourteen with that offense, would it it wouldn't stun you. No, I don't think I would be particularly stunned. So we'll see. They're very good, though. Olzoberger I think has as good of a case for National Coach of the Year as anybody. Yeah, I'm gonna really I thought I was to be like, Okay, I didn't think they'd be twelve and four in the Big Twelve like they've been genuinely quite

impressive. Or Oklahoma or Iowa State kind of feels like that NFL team that goes like from six and ten to eleven and five one year because their record and one score games just as a super outlier, like they're like seven and one and one score games, and then what normally happens to those teams, they take L's they take L's in the playoffs. Right, whenever it churns back, I don't know, we'll see. But great season for them,

nonetheless, great defensive team two. Texas eighty one, Oklahoma State sixty five. There isn't much to say about this game, boring seventeen from Dylan to Sue. It's the only game I got right and pick them which, No, you got Houston sucks. I did you right that? Or did I write that you got the Houston? I did get Houston right. Yeah, I know you're right. So I got two, I got two, one of two, two and five, and you are Bill self on the road

this year, sir, Texas Tech eighty one, West Virginia seventy. We may have picked West Virginia to win, but unfortunately we forgot that only one team loses in Morgantown. Yeah, it's that one. Tech hit thirteen threes, Joe toussant As, Nick calls him, I just dropped my descant scored twenty one points. West Virginia's offensive have actually been good. They've been pretty good shooting the ball, but they cannot stop anything. And in this game,

Texas Tech good offense. It wasn't gonna work Cincinnati seventy four, Kansas State seventy two. We were so close to a sandstorm and so close to land and getting a game right, but instead neither. Tyler Perry, who is very hit or miss, hit a lot in this game. He had twenty six hit to go ahead three with a minute left, put in case Ate up by one, but with just ten seconds to go, Seemis Lucasius

answered, winning the game for Cincinnati with a three of his own. Approximately, Nick would pronounce teamus Lucasis as I dropped my croissant, But we got there. Case State enters Allenfield House on Tuesday with just two fewer conference wins than Kansas. That's so sad. I didn't really think about that, but that's true. And I hate that their tournament homeball may have been done done in with a blown lead in Lubbock and a blown lead here. Yeah,

they're gonna need something pretty oppressive. I don't know if you can put them in. They were barely in the in the projections as it was, they would they would eat quite a turnaround late if they I mean, have a hope. They have seventeen wins, they have a great chance to get a signature dub with Iowa State at home next Saturday on Senior Day, Like,

they absolutely could win that assuming let's let's give them a win there. They're eight and ten, they're eighteen and thirteen overall, and then they would probably be like a like a what like a seven seed in the Big twelve tournament. I think case, what happens if Case State beats Kansas what's the discourse Like if they beat Kansas Oh my god, that will end streets stunned. But what if it does happen, then Kansas State is probably on the right

side of the bubble at that point. And uh, at that point, I think you gotta ring all the alarm bells with Kansas, Like then you're in free fall mode, right, Yeah, I think you're in like player give up mode almost if that's the I don't think that's gonna happen, but man if it does, yeah, uh but yeah, Kansas State, they're seventeen and twelve. I think the magic number is twenty. If they get twenty, they're gonna make it. They have great chances Kansas and Iowa State

left and then they gotta win something. The Big troalg toament is total wild card We've seen some weird things happen there. Yep. But like they're you look at their schedule, they're they're seven and nine. They and that's with some overtime magic against kau and Baylor. They lost the Tech by one, they lost to Oklahoma State by three, they lost the TCU by three,

and now they lose to Cincinnati by two. You want to talk about the margin of in and out being just this much, I'm holding up fingers really close to each other. They've had chances, they really have, and I still think they're kinda I think they're kind of frisky. I don't know if I'd want any part of a desperate case date team. So, oh my glad they're coming to the Jayhawks place in a couple of days. BYU eighty seven, TCU seventy five. Good game. Four of the Cougars who did

not follow up their big upset winning Allen Field House with a flop. They played well Dellen Hall, Trevin Nil. They combined to make seven threes, but BYU got twenty one points from big Man Fusini Trey Rorr as they did most of their damage inside the arc. Did you know BYU has four players that are married on their team. ESPN told us that's not stunning knowing Mormon culture. They are daddy's are They are the daddies to Kansas Kansas. That's

their kids. The Jayhawks. Nick Timberlake has to send Dallen Hall cards every mid June for Father's Day. TCU's underwhelming conference, Lake continues, here's the thing. If Kansas State is on the outside looking in at seven to nine, have you seen TCU's non conference schedule. I'd be real nervous if I were TCU at eight and eight. Yeah, I think the middle of the Big twelve, a lot of the middle of the Big twelve should be relatively

nervous. I don't think teams like Texas or Oklahoma should also just please don't put them in. I don't think TCUs like super squarely in though I haven't been following the bracketology super close. Yeah, I think the middle of the Big twelve is not just riding as high as a lot of people think. So this bracketology on ESPN was posted the morning of Saturday, so it didn't have any of those results. In Texas and Oklahoma are eight seeds. Kansas

State is next four out. TCU is a nine seed like in this all field like. And here's the danger. If you're a nine seed and you lose that Big twelve Wednesday game, You're gonna watch so many bubble teams win games between then and Selection Sunday to potentially jump you. There are going to be a lot of those Oklahoma, Texas Case States TCUs that are gonna take

early Big twelve Tournament ls and watch their direct competition surge past them. It's gonna be a very interesting the Wednesday of the Big twelve Tournament we kind of thought would be for the lousy teams it is. They're gonna be elimination games essentially for the NCAA Tournament, which will be fun. Big twelve standings of a week left. Everybody has NFL or at least what used to be NFL records, which I feel like really helps me analyze how good these teams are.

Houston is an elite thirteen to three. They are the class of the Big twelve in Iowa state, genuine contender Big twelve twelve and four in second place. Baylor is ten and six. They've been on the right side of a few games that could have gone the other way and they've come out in third place looking like a quality postseason contender. In fourth place, if we're continuing the NFL analogy, a bunch of teams that might be wild card teams

or might be on the outside looking in, depending on the year. Texas Tech BYU Kansas nine and seven. Oh, it was on mute dam The computer doesn't want to believe it. Number seven and perfect mediocrity in any sport works here. They're eight to eight Texas and TCU yuck, feisty but not great in ninth Oklahoma k State seven and nine. Now we're getting to the

lowsy teams here, Cincinnati UCF. They've had chances, they've come out on the wrong end more often than they haven't, and they are sitting in eleventh place. Bad top five draft picks number thirteen tied for last. Oklahoma State and West Virginia four and twelve gonna be the first two teams eliminated from the

Big twelve tournament. Other games well. The big winner of this weekend they wear orange number four Tennessee using a late search to win on the road at number fourteen Alabama eighty one seventy four to take control of the SEC race. Did you know Santonio Vescovy is still in college? I know he played the Jay tak this year. Y Santiago, I say, Santonio Santiago Vescovie. I watched a little bit of this game and I saw him, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this man has been on my TV longer than

I've been alive. It fields eighteen points from Zakai Ziegler, who's also been in college forever, including four threes that helped do it. Alabama's number one offense went just nine for thirty seven shooting threes. This is the fear for them in the NCAA tournament. One cold game and you're done. The balls are thirteen and three. That leads the SEC with a week left. They

look like the class of the Southeastern Conference. Alabama does have the number one offense, but I looked this up today because I was actually looking for Kentucky stats. Alabama has the number one ranked offense in the country, of course, and they have the like the three hundred and thirty second ranked defense, and you know how well that normally goes in the tournament. Bad Usually Kentucky has the third ranked offense and the three hundred and thirty first ranked defense.

Yeah, Kentucky, because Kentucky gave up ninety to Kansas and that should be a red flag in itself. On number eighteen, South Carolina beat number twenty four Florida at home to move into a second place tie with Crimson Tide at twelve and four. Hey, they're in the right place at the right time. Potentially. Right behind them is number sixteen Kentucky, who got a one to eleven one h two win in the NBA against Arkansas not the NBA RUP

and number eleven Auburn, who bea Mississippi state. The top six teams in the SEC are all ranked and have at least ten wins. A team that doesn't have ten wins in conference play is Kansas. Oh yeah, that's true. Better than Missouri though. Okay, So Kentucky scored what one seventeen and one eleven and their last two wins, how many points is that? That would be one two hundred and twenty eight points? Okay, hold on, I'm adding how many games it's taken Virginia to get to that in their last

Uh so you say two hundred and twenty eight point? Yeah, Virginia's at Virginia's at two fifty four in their last five. That's tough. That's now on the side of that, of course, Kentucky has given up like one hundred and ninety six points or something like that. Right, how many how many would Missouri or not Missouri, we'll talk about them. How many would would Virginia score on Kentucky? That would be that could be eighty. They

might hit eighty. No, Kentucky, Virginia is not scoring eighty against us. They are so awful on offense. Speaking of awful, that was the chance. Nope, they didn't get it done. They squandered their one chance to win a conference game by losing at home to Chris Beard's lousy old miss outside looking in team. The Tigers are the two thousand and eight Detroit Lions oh and sixteen. Their final two games Auburn at home and at LSU oh

and eighteen looked pretty inevitable right now. It's been a long time since a power league team went oh and eighteen. But I think it's coming right up. Yeah, it seems that way. I so side. I obviously we're Kansas fans. We don't have much emotion towards Missouri. Other than distaste. But I feel a little bad for eighteen, Like that's that's tragic, that's unbelievable. And Kansas only beat them by like eight, that's true. Yeah,

it's not it's not great, not great, Bob. Another conference team that sucks is the Big East, but a bunch of teams that don't suck. Number twelve great and they beat number five Marquette at home by fourteen, but it was without Tyler Kolek, the All World point guard for the Golden Eagles. Also number three Yukon beat Seaton Hall at home to officially wrap up an outright Big East title, something Kansas will not sniff this year. And

then the team that sucks h eighteen oh and eight to Paul. They are three and twenty six on the season. Could de Paul's in Chicago? You think they would get like a few like good basketball players, like accidentally signed for them. I think they'd fall into them. Yeah. Can you name the three teams DePaul has beat this year? H one of them is one of them Louisville yep. Louisville's one. One of them is the only basketball team that is not affiliated with a conference, Chicago State YEP by twelve,

and then there's South Dakota by also twelve. Those are their three wins. They have yet to win a game since. If you've turned your calendar to twenty twenty four, you have not that that then DePaul has not won a game since. You seriously is in all of the entire enormous metropolitan area that is Chicago, And like, surely you could get like ten dudes that could

beat Georgetown. Yeah you really would, but you can't. And there are they are just one of four teams that have not won a conference game yet this year. Here's your full list to Paul, cal Poly, Missouri and Pacific. Of course you got to have an honorary w CC team on there. Why would you not. That's a hilarious list. Let's talk about the a SEC. It's a little better, but also still kind of ass Number nine un ce they beat North Carolina State and I pretending to crushed Virginia holding

the cast. What a noise that was insane? That's my noise watching Virginia. Who is Kyle Philipowski was the Blue Devil's best player, which is incredible considering that he was cleaved yet with a sword in the leg, leaving his his bloody stump dragging across That didn't that didn't happen at all. He's fine, he's a he's a baby. The two a SEC powerhouses are tied atop

the league and will play on Saturday in Durham. Uh if we can see it, because there's there's a there's a cream colored liquid covering all the cameras, and I can't quite tell the ball pretty much. I don't need that. That next sentence I won't read, don't put them in the tournament. Don't put Virginia in the tournament. It says something not very nice about Virginia. I'm telling you. If I could change one game ever, it'd be

that Nisenal title game that they lucked into. Number two. Perdue escaped that home against Michigan State by six, Number thirteen. Illinois took down Wisconsin on the road. Purdue has already clinched the league, I think. But that is the those are the best two teams in that league. Everybody else in the conference, with the exception of maybe Northwestern and maybe a frisky but not

looking to get too serious, and the brasketball team is total buns. They're gonna put Michigan State in the tournament as like a ten seed, and everybody's gonna be like it is Owen March. Yes, and they ain't gonna win a darn thing. Uh, even though in another conference their conference title streak ended number twenty three. Gonzaga got a decisive seventy fifty seven road win at number seventeen Saint Mary's in the regular season, finally live by sixteen at halftime

and coasted to the end stut Center. Graham Eke scored twenty points, and the Bulldogs have won eight in a row and thirteen to fourteen. Are they the better bet to get far in the tournament than the Gaels? I think the answer is yes. Yeah, it's pretty obvious at this point they're gonna give Saint Mary's like a six seed and they're just totally buns. Like they both have nearly identical resumes. Gonzaga has the better coach and the higher upside,

but don't get fooled by any of this. They're still Gonzaga. Like my argument with Gonzaga all those years is that they were overrated. This year's team won't be. They're like a seven or and eight seeds. You can't really be overrated. And be a seven or in eight. I don't think unless you're Oklahoma. So they're gonna be about where they should and if they make a run, great. I think that they're very talented. I wouldn't want to see them let's say Kansas to two. I wouldn't want them to

be my seven because I think they're loaded with talent. But does it translate against Power five teams. It hasn't in the past. Tough to see this one doing it. Also, the margin between winning and losing is small. They were that weird buzzer beater against Santa Clara or whoever away from continuing that

streak. The margin is so small and nowadays college Hoops and then Joe Lenardi says Number six Arizona is a lock for a one seed, even though they won the worst Power five league I've ever seen, being the twenty twenty four PAC twelve. They crushed Oregon to get to fourteen and four Number nineteen Washington State beat Ucla to keep Pace out a half game back. But let's not act like that's gonna wind up mattering. It's Arizona's league. Yeah, that

feels right. The pacteal sucks ranked teams to lose since the last show. Number five, Marquette swooped in and stole Bill's thunder as the highest ranked team to take an L. They lost to Creighton, but for the eighth time this season and the seventh time in conference play. Number seven Kansas loses to Baylor. Have they been outside the top ten yet? Have they been top

ten in every single poll? No? But Nick and I watched the game together and he pondered if Kansas would drop out of the top twenty five. You watched the Baylor game with Nick? I did. Yeah, he came up to my apartment for the first time. It was fun. I made Hamburgers. We had a good time. Oh wow, you had more fun than than Johnny Furfey did sitting on the bench. Yeah. We had only seven minutes less action in the second half than Johnny did. Geez. Yeah,

and probably eight better that game too. I don't know if Johnny Furfey has enjoyed one of the Hamburger's land it makes that sounds pretty good. Number fourteen Alabama took an L to Tennessee. They are kind of starting to fall off a little bit. Number seventeen, Oh Mary. They lost to Oh Mary. You know, I love when you say that. Oh May and number twenty four Florida lost to South Carolina, but have no fear they're still

the best state in the Union. People say union anymore? Is that a that's probably vaguely, I mean less so since eighteen seventy But yeah, sorry, best state in the whole land, the worst pickum record in the land, as you land and you were three and nine in Pickham, which is complete as that's hard to do. It's hard to pick nine losers in twelve pickum games. Yeah it is. I should have bet the opposite, but

I didn't, and I'm gonna lose pick them. Yep, that's how it goes, ask Rock Chalk Blog. Okay, let's go ahead and get the Let's go ahead and get these out of the way here. So we begin with at Jayhawk jock Strap, who just says one question, great, why great handle it just says why? And then JB. Cisnaro eighty seven to twenty seven says can we win? And then we also have at Oki Underscore Jayhawk, who says, well, cay you ever be good at basketball again?

Or should I recreate this creed music video which is a woman yeating herself off a very tall stone monument, and I'm trying to see if there's anything else tournament hopes at least. Yeah that so why is a great question? Just you know, this is I don't want to pull a blue check mark and be like you be you spoiled because the Jayhawks down years are better than everybody else's good years. But like for seed is as bad as it gets,

you have it pretty good. Yeah, that is undeniably true. At U A Okay, before I read this question Land and is Ku Baylor a good rivalry? I think so? All right at AB twenty twenty two eight eleven four six one at nine. How do you define a rivalry? Thinking Kay, you and Baylor as a rivalry is hilarious. A few good games doesn't equate to a rivalry history dating back to the Civil War? Does Okay? So like here's the well, here's the problem. True, then there's

like four rivalries in sports, right exactly. And here's the problem. When you say Kansas and Missouri's a rivalry because they hate each other and they've gone back to the Civil War, people say, well, you have to beat the other team a few times to be a rival. Okay, Baylor beats Kansas five out of ten times, Well, that doesn't care. Like what do you want if if Duke North Carolina is the only way to become a rivalry, there's only one rivalry then, or like Yankees Red Sox, Like

right, yes, you have like five sports. I think what defines rivals now? I mean there's lots of things that can Like sometimes you just have geographic rivals where you do have a lot of history regardless of like the closeness or competitiveness, and it's just it's a rivalry because the programs or the teams just hate each other, even if one team is exceedingly dominant over the other. You know, think K State KU football. Sorry that's one, oh

ouch. But like I think there can be lots of rivalries now, again, you have different levels. Like obviously, yes, Kumazoo is not super common as far as intensity like that in its heyday was one of the most intense rivalries in sports. It was crazy. But that doesn't make Kansas and Baylor not rivals. Obviously, rivals can like come and go. That's that's

right there, that's it. Rivalries change, They're fluid, unless your Yankees Red Sox are Duke North Carolina, which are the truly elite rivalries, and Kansas has maybe there is Kansas the only one that has two hundred year plus rivalries with Case and Missouri. Like that's rare too that you have multiple rivalries that have gone on that long. I've always said Kansas has its best with rivalries because they can claim rivalries and they always win their rivalry games. Baylor

and Kansas have split the last five regular season series. They've all been ranked in all of those games, and both teams have won national titles in that run. That's absolutely one of the best current rivalries in the sport. Yeah, they've gone back and forth. Yes, Baylor doesn't have the history to go back with Kansas on, but like Baylor is Kansas's like chief current rival. And about Frank Fraschilla calling it a rebuild, can we stop. Yeah,

Baylor has been rebuilt. It was a rebuild like fifteen years ago. Right. Yeah, they've just been a powerhouse in the last half decade. Yeah, like what last five years old team before that last five years they would have been a one seed. If the tournament didn't get canceled to COVID, they would they won the ship and twenty two they were a one seed again in twenty three, last year they were a three seed, and this year they're a top three seed. Like they are just a juggernaut, They're

a wagon. In the last few years, yeah, yeah, we were far from rebuild. They were a rebuild, but that was a long time ago. At Boom and Frosty, what are your thoughts on the lineup of Harris, Timberlake, Furfey, McCuller, and Dickinson. It's not optimal, but it would probably space the floor better, and who knows, maybe Nick would start knocking down shots and get more comfortable playing with the starters. So that sounds I think with two games to go, it's really unfortunate that we're

talking about how we can get Nick Timberlake more comfortable with the starters. Yeah, but that might be true. At this point, they'd try it. Why not. There's literally almost nothing to lose at this point. Yeah, I agree. I'd like to see And you know who benefits the most in that lineup? You know the answer, right, the fans because they get to watch Nick Timberlake. Oh, I didn't ask who loses the most if

we Hunter is the one who benefits the most. Hunter would actually have a chance to touch the ball without being triple teamed because they'd have to stay on the shooters because they know Hunter can pass out and find the open shooters. Timberlake may not make one, but they're not going to leave them open, which is one of his great strengths, commanding attention away from other players.

Oh you mean Dickinson. I thought you meant Timberlakes. No, h Dickinson's his passing ability and his ability to shoot or to find open shooters and things. At Ella's dad too. I'd like to know if any of our recruits will be a three point threat. It's hard to tell. El Marco was a pretty good high school shooter and Timberlake was a darn good college shooter,

and look how that worked out. Like, it's hard to know based on what they shot in high school against kids that are heading into college to become business owners and you know, investment bankers. It's really hard to know that. But yes, I would think Bill self would look at this roster and think we got to get better shooting the ball at me without and you how badly do you wish kJ was six foot ten? Bad? That'd be amazing.

That'd be pretty crazy. Yeah, even though Jamari Traylor was almost six in and he couldn't rebound either as the same body tych like, would you take that? Or he can shoot thirty seven percent from three the threes, it's not even close. Yep. If kJ could shoot thirty seven percent on threes, he's a lottery pick. Uh. Yeah, I think that's undeniably true at Travis ninety nine. Well, Bill self channel has ner Rick Patino and admit that. No, I don't you have to read the next the

rest of the question. No, he will not. Bill self is a much classier and mild mannered man than Rick Patino is, and more passive aggressive rather than just aggressive aggressive. Yeah, and then and yes there's that, and admit this season is his most unenjoyable and Furfey is slow laterally and he lost the season by the way he recruited. That would be awesome if he did Hunters slow laterally. Yeah, well there's lots of that. No,

I don't think Bill self would say this is at least enjoyable. I think that he still feels like there's a real chance as this team could do some stuff, not as least enjoyable. Maybe he's having a fun time. And also I think the least enjoyable one was the one where as Hard almost exploded. I don't care how good the team was. That sounds awful. Eye on the list. Let's see here scrolling up at Jayhawk takes. What would you like to see Kate or would you like to see kJ off the bench

next year? Yeah, we talked about that. I think you'd be a hell of a six or seventh man. I just don't know if he wants the role. Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing with the big situation that I'll be looking for next season. It's just exactly like what happens, because I think kJ should probably want to come back to Kansas. But then again, if Florie Badoon is really good, he's probably the third big because I think Hunter Dickinson's coming back. And then I do not want to see them

play two bigs at any time. Yeah, but they might have to to keep playing time happy with all those guys. If you want to keep all three of them, you might have to play two bigs. So we'll see. With all that, I really hope they try to play four guards, but it also depends on your guards again. If Johnny Furfy comes back,

then I would love to see four guards. But like if he's gone and it's two freshmen that you're not quite sure in Dwan Harris and like a grad transfer that you're also not quite sure of, maybe that could be anywhere between Dalton Neck and Nick Timberlake, then I'm not as confident. Yeah, that's the problem is. It's like if you want to have if you want to play two bigs, I'll listen, but you have to be able to rebound.

And this team is very good. You have the guards, have to be able to shoot, and both of your of your bigs have to rebound, and you have more stuff has to go right with two bigs. So that's why it's harder and you see teams go away from it. Which losses this season do you think are particularly bad and which ones are more expected? Baylor's fine, Houston on Saturday will be fine, and at Texas Tech expected too. They've only lost one something disgusting. Way to go, But yeah,

right, the others are bad. Kse St they always play you tough. UCF is the worst of the season. I think BYU is really bad considering it was at home, and West Virginia is just an atrocious team. Those are the three worst, and then you have the three best and the k State ones in the middle. They should have won it, but rivalry games and they're a middle of the They're better than the other teams they've lost you on the road, Yeah, they're better be the worst few on the

road for sure. Yeah, and they're pretty good at Bramwood's too. At Drew Watton, would you trade the wins for ukon Tennessee, Kentucky or Houston to win UCF, West Virginia, Ky State or BYU That's an interesting question. No, I'll bet Honestly, I don't think so, because I mean that's also this is my opinion, which is not to be taken super with

more than a grain of salt, because I think differently now. But those wins are still super fun and like way more interesting in your given season to have than if you just lost to a bunch of good teams and beat all the not good ones. Yes, for the sake of you only care about the tournament and you want the highest seed possible. They need those wins because

without those your seed line's way down. But if you do take that scenario, they'd have two more conference wins right now or three more conference wins right now, so they'd be they'd have struck out on all their big non con win attempts, but they'd be twelve and four in Big Twelve play. What's more valuable. I think they're a better seed because of the resume they have than that one. But it is interesting and it would mean we're feeling better

about the direction they're trending. At show Me Hawk, the post streak era of Kansas basketball has been a wild ride. Three teams that didn't win the Big Twelve, a team that was awesome that didn't get a shot to play in the tournament, a national champ, and a team that set a record

in quad one wins. Yeah, Kansas has kind of gone from being They're still really consistent, but they've kind of turned into a little more Jekyll and Hide than they were that whole decade where they were just winning the Big Twelve. It's almost like that's one of the most insane runs in the history of the sport. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is. Also, show Me Hawk says, you guys start paying attention to the Summit League tournament this week, um k C might make the dance. I saw this,

So um k C has won six in a row. I think they're ten and six. They finished second in the Summit League or not, so yeah, the Summit League, so they have a real chance to win that tournament. I believe North Dakota State has had a little bit of a down year

and they normally completely run that place. So yeah, look at you, you and k C. That'd be awesome at Dick Underscore Tazer, Hey, boys, hope you have some nice ten foil helmets on because the sky is falling, and it's because player fill in flavor of the week doesn't care about the program anyway. Over under win total KU rest of season five point five? What say ye Under? I'm gonna roll with the over. I think

they get k State. I think they win three in k C, and I think they win two in the in the NCAA is at least that's six. I think I'm gonna bet the safer under. I think they're gonna go on Ah, They're gonna go on a nice run in Casey and everyone's like ooh, but they don't even play that well in the sprints. Yes, they do they're over eighty percent there, Yes they do. It's not Allen, that's what you're used to. I I like you, Wayne Kerr,

I always have. But I really like your level headed takes and how refreshing they are in a Twitter mentioned feed that can be kind of full of doom and gloom. And I think you're right. I think we're about to see them go on a little bit of an unexpected run and we'll see at Travis ninety nine. Can we finally admit this team has won a lot of high quality games with el Marco's defense and lost a lot of low quality games with

Furfey's offense. Ooh, that's interesting. I've seen that take thrown around a bit. I hate to consider even that I kind of refuse to No, I don't think that's the case. I don't. I think that they they want a lot of high game. Did timber that Furfey didn't or El Marco didn't do much in the in the Yukon game and the Tennessee game, and like like he, I don't know. I I think we're just grasping at straws at this point. I think they're they I think they have two or

three more L's in Big twelve play if Furfey doesn't emerge. Uh yeah, I think that's true. Furfy's been been awesome and at Tyler lem Cow. What is better for Kansas going in a deep run in the Big twelve tournament and improving their seed line or losing early and getting to rest. I would rather see the deep run. I spare me the rest. Thing They're at this point in the year. They are who they are. Screw the rest. Win some games. Yeah, I was gonna say, what really is

rest? With the end of the season looming though, if they do make a run, they could be looking at playing four games in four days in that tournament. That is brutal. It's brutal by the time you get to the third day. So well, we'll see. If you ever have asked RCPs, use a Twitter hashtag ask RCB. All right, let's preview, Please don't lose as is really all this should say here? Kansas State at number to be determined, probably like fifteen Kansas to Tuesday, March fifth,

at eight pm. Hold on, wait a second, Nick, one of them out of the top twenty five? Uh not wanted just wondered if that would happen, to which I promptly laughed and said, no, No, they're gonna fall like eight spots. It'll be a steep fall. But they lost both games this week. I bet they're about If they are like the next three in a row, they'll be out of the top twenty five. Maybe there are no more time. Isn't this the last top twenty five because

then the regular seasons over? Why would they keep going? There isn't there one technically that comes out after the uh the tournaments, the conference tournaments. I think there's one, Yeah, but no one looks at it. No one cares, but it does technically exists. Kansas State seventeen and twelve overall, seven and nine in Big twelve play. It is senior night, and nobody knows who's actually being honored. That's what the coach said. We know

that Timberlake and Djakovic are there. Mccula already spoke. Harras said he's coming back. Dickinson shrug like, who are they gonna honor? I can't imagine. I bet they honored da color not be there. I feel like, but mccullar did it last year, didn't he. Yeah, mccullar said, he wouldn't do the walk again because he said he did it last year, and I bet they do. I bet Dickinson does speak just in case he

doesn't come back. Maybe I don't know, maybe we'll see. I feel like Dickinson is coming back, but I don't know what a weird like. No one knows, and no one knows who they're gonna start like cause it's senior night. Oh my gosh, Timberlake and Djenkovich together just just bury me alive. And one guy that might try to do that is Tyler Perry,

the point guard. He averaged sixteen points and five assists per game. He's gotten better as conference play has gone along, but he's either ridiculously hot or ice cold at all times. Last time Kansas got him, guess what, he made a lot of shots. Kim Carl is his right hand man with fifteen points per night as well. They both shoot a lot of threes. Neither make more than thirty four percent, but as say that, they can both get very hot at times, and that is what happened in Manhattan.

Did Adams and Dory and Finister are the guards of note that come off the bench. Creighton transfer Arthur Kaluma is Case State's best three point threat, but that's tapered off in conference play. He plays the three, he averages fifteen and seven. Very good player, shoots thirty six percent from deep. Four man David and Guisen and center Will McNair junior shoot high percentages and both add about eight and six, but neither has been able to fill that nakuon Tomlin

Voyd in the front court. That is the problem for Case State. Their offense doesn't have a go to post player, and he would with him. I think they're a tournament team. Case State is a very good defensive team that's solid on the glass and has been excellent with interior defense. Ken Palm has them as a top twenty defense but a sub one forty offense, so

sort of a mini Kentucky if you will. They're pour across and in reverse, they're pouring across the board on the offensive front, shooting just thirty two percent from three of the team and committing fifteen turnovers per game, which is among the country's worst rates. Now, of course, the thirty two percent from three, as we were saying with Carter and Perry, kind of gets completely blown out the window. If those guys are shooting well because you're just

on a hot night, and that is what it is. And those are the guys that shoot like it's not like it's the whole team effort. Here. Kaluma, Carter and uh And and Perry are the three that shoot like seventy five percent of their attempts. They don't necessarily play a super slow pace, but they turn the ball over so much that they get relatively low number

of shots up. Again, did not matter a ton in Manhattan because Kansas shot a stupidly low percentage there and played a very not good game in Manhattan. I too think you'll see a better adding from the Jayhawks here. And in the Manhattan game case they turn it over a lot. That's the only reason that they weren't able to finish Ku in regulation. They kept giving the ball away. Gotta think at Allen Field House, you're gonna see more of

that. And Kansas has dominated here. There's a lot of streaks going on here, a lot of good voodoo for Kansas to snap their losing skid. Kansas, this is just six and five in their last eleven trips to Manhattan, but they have dominated the Wildcats at home. Bill self is nineteen and one against kse State at Allen field House. They have currently won seventeen games

in a row against them there. Kansas State is one in twenty eight in their last twenty nine games in Lawrence, and oh, then there's this streak. Kansas has won forty forty senior nights in a row. They haven't lost on senior Night since nineteen eighty three, which was the last game at Allen of the Ted Owens era. It has been a long time since Kansas lost their home finale. There isn't a lot of optimism right now with basketball fans and Lawrence, but gosh it, they should be Case State like that.

This feels to me and you can curb your enthusiasm all you want if they lose. If they lose this game, Oh, if they lose this game, it's time to jump off the train. It's gonna be a mass exodus. But I don't think they will, and I don't think it's that close. I think this is a get right matchup for Kansas against an offense that turns it over a lot and struggles. I think you see Kansas shoot the ball better from three. I think you see a polished and ready to go.

Kansas team. I think they Clobbercase State something like seventy eight to fifty seven, or I think they hand it to him pretty good. And if I'm wrong, great, But I've seen this enough Senior Night. They they're gonna rip someone's throat out eventually. And this kind of feels like the spot with McCuller healthy and a turnover ridden team coming into Allen. So you say get right game, I say last for aw Either way, I'm picking a

win. I do think, much like now, the game I'm gonna reference is much different, but much like in the twenty twenty one year with that team was pretty helpless by the end, but then Baylor came to town and they kind of ran Baylor. That Baylet team way better. Obviously, that was the national title Baylor team than this Case State team. I do think Kansas wins pretty comfortably here. I think the Senior Night energy, I think

they're gonna have a pretty solid game. I think they're gonna be pretty pissed to be frank. I think they win like seventy six to sixty. Okay, so similar type game. Yeah, I think I think Case State has a couple moments where it get a little shakier, never really in doubt. And then Kansas has a couple of really nice runs that extend. And if there is one team that has just come out with their pants down so many times in that building, it's case State. We have seen Case State get

buried quickly their time and time again. I could see Kansas starting hot. We know they've blown some leads this year. This is the time. I don't think it happens. I think Kansas wins, and yeah if they don't, oh boy, if they lose this one, you're looking at four straight l's to end a year. You're looking at a five hundred conference record and like an eight seed in the Big Twelve tournament. Forget playing on Wednesday, then they might be in Thursday territory. Nah, they won't be that bad

or Tuesday territory. It won't get to that point. But Wolf, they gotta take care of business here Big twelve games. The rankings will shift, but the matchups will not. Texas at number fifteen, Baylor. I like Baylor to stay hot at home, me too, Texas Tech at Oklahoma State, give me the Cowboys. It's not like it matters if I'm wrong or not as fine. I agree. I agree road games are just different. I think Oklahoma State wins Cincinnati at Oklahoma. Oh, can I pick them

both to lose a desperate Oh you get to win? Yes? But I hate this, No, screw them. Cincinnati wins at Norman, Oklahoma is gonna be so exhausted after almost beating Houston and just come out and crap the bed. I don't trust Oklahoma, I don't trust Porter take an l get ben Ou. Number one Houston at Central Florida. I am very, very tempted here. I think Houston is I think Houston's on a mission and wins. But Houston looking ahead to Kansas, they've been rolling, they're doing now.

I think it's close. Houston has a national championship type energy. Not that I'm saying they're gonna do that, but they are a team that I think legitimately could and there. That means they're gonna be UCF b YU. At number eight Iowa State, this will be I'm also tempted here. I'm gonna not pick so many almost upsets and just be a coward. Iowa State feels kind of right for the picking here, but they're just so good at home. I think they win. This is the game BYU will miss like

one hundred threes because Iowa State just has that voodoo. This year. BYU has had a couple really nice games in a row. I think Iowa State wins by like twenty. TCU at West Virginia, I will these games. Are these games suck? Dude, this is gonna be more enthusiasm. I'm taking West Virginia again. Wow, Okay, I'm not. I'm gonna put one more hurrah for TCU. I don't have a feel on any of these really, I don't know. This is just all a mess. The only

one I'm confident is, Hey, you will beat k State. Really, that's it. And that's not as nice as you'd think you would be at this point. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the other games. Number ten Duke at North Carolina State, I will take the upset. Here, Duke gets caught looking ahead to UNC same. Number two Perdue at number thirteen Illinois. Ooh, Illinois. Yeah, I think I'll take them. I think I agree. I think that, Yeah, I think I agree. Number

fourteen Alabama at number twenty four Florida. Alabama can't stop anybody, does it cost them? Again, I'm gonna say no. I'll say they outscore the Gators. I think the Gators continue to kick them all they're down. I think Florida wins number twenty San Diego State at UNLV, huge game in the Mountain West Conference. I'll take the Rebels at home. Sure, why not

Number four Tennessee at number eighteen South Carolina give me the game. Well, if Tennessee loses this this is a tie league like it, I will take South Carolina. This feels like a Rick Barns in ing. Yeah, if you beat both these teams back to back, I agree. I think South Carolina wins a home I do at number three, Yukon at number five Marquette, I will take the Golden Eagles on Tyler Kulloch senior night. Yukon's already clinched the league. There'll be a little out of focus, all right.

Well, our next show will probably be later in the week, and then they get the best for last at Houston to end the season. Rock Chuck, I can't. I would only imagine the Houston fans will be completely understanding of all your previous takes. Ryan Face for hours, many days, maybe weeks on end when Houston beats Kansas seventy five to four. Rock Chuck Blog is gonna hear all those tweets. I've tried to kind of cushion that a little bit because I got the Houston take wrong. I'll admit that. But

yeah, that might not just weird because they start. It's kind of been the reverse of what we thought the problem would be because they still that they are losing some big road games and then they've just they were one and two, they've gone one to one and two to thirteen and three. Yeah, they have been so lights out. Yep, they've been really good. I don't know if we've been really good. That's for you to decide. This

isn't side the paint. I'm Ryan Landrif. Oh I can I always forget that I have to say my name another time at the end of the show. I have to you just boycott it. That's essentially what I've been doing. It's just been funny. So I'm I'm I don't know, I'm Marcus Garrett. So sad that's so you're as what you're saying, I'm the eighteen nineteen Kansas team. Oh no, I don't need that, Damn Landon don't

throw that energy into the universe. All right, Well, you might be saying in five years from now, when we're still on this show, you might be saying, I'm the twenty twenty four Jayhawks and will be like, oh, no, has lost in five consecutive the team that, yeah, the team that lost to a thirteen seed and then we haven't won an LAD eight game since. Yeah, that's gonna be five years into the future on the show. All Right, we'll be back later in the week. Hopefully we'll bring Nick with us. Audios