ITP: A road victory! Kansas clips Oklahoma in Norman

Well, the road Woads are over one victory and the Lloyd Noble Center is all you need to get all the confidence and sing. I mean, that's what I'm gonna roll with, because wow, I've never been so to see them win a game in that awful arena. But you know, hey, it's it's it's a dub, maybe one that points them in the right direction. And speaking of being pointed in a direction, we're pointed to a two man show direction today because Landon, you're back. We didn't think we'd have

you on this show. But just as quickly as you swooped back in from grace, our third half departed with a little bit less grace. I love things that have three halves. Nicholas Show today as he continuously becomes less and less intrigued by the idea of saying things online, especially in front of people, including us. So no, Nick today, he's got the day off, which I think you'll appreciate. Yeah, Nick has the day off. I'm a very genre a supervisor here on this podcast. Get the same rate

of pay per usual, that's right. Yeah, we call it paid time off in the business world, sir. That's easy. He's getting. He's getting his same compensation package from relaxing as he would doing the strenuous work of a podcast of listening to one hundred times and discussing Hunter Dickinson's is That is hard work labor sometimes, so we have to we have to carry the witch shoulder the load today talk about Kansas beating Oklahoma by double digits on the road,

and uh, you guys know how the show works. By now. I'm not gonna sit here and try to like give intrigue about what else we're gonna talk about because everyone knows. But there's no preview at the end of the show because Jayhawks like Nick have the week off. That's that's nice. I guess right, you want to break I don't know. I think it's a pretty boring part of the show. I know not everyone agrees. I think it's boring, but you know, okay that let's let's let's start with

that. Then rank the segments of the show from favorite to least favorite. Okay, this this is gonna be wild, but I think this is actually true. Uh, you know, actually want to save that for last. Then my least my least favorite segment, uh is the preview? I really okay, it's not that it's bad, I just it's not my personal favorite. I think after that you'd have to go with you're going in reversally with Big twelve games. No other games. I think it be other games than

Big twelve games. Wow. Then the recap, and then what has become my favorite, uh is ASCARCB. I love ASCARCB. Honestly, that's something that's a take. See. I think that I that was five segments there. I think I'm probably a different or I don't think any of them line up the same. My favorite part of the show to do is other games. I think that is usually where the funniest bones of the show are made.

I think that is I think it's the most back and forth. It's it's everybody gets involved, and it usually gets off the races, and normally somebody says something mean about Mark Few or John Caliperry or something. I just think that's fun. Second favorite if Kansas loses is the recap if Kansas. If Kansas wins a big game is a recap. But if it's like this one, yeah, then it's it's at least below the preview for sure. I think the preview is fun. I like I like hearing what everyone thinks

is gonna happen. It's I think it's also the preview is one of the reasons that the it TP fan base likes the show's format as much. People like shows that prediction. People like predictions for each and every game. They like score predictions. I do think. I do think the format is tried and true. I think I think our format is pretty solid. Not to pattern on back and just be like our show. I think the show that I do is pretty good. Actually, don't you agree, everyone? Don't

you agree the show we do is great? Oh well, a accident. I was trying to hit applause, but producer extraordinary Ryan Lander hit the wrong button. There continues sir. But yeah, I think I think our format is actually pretty solid. I think it's very it's a good structure. I think a good structure is important. Good structure not as good on the editing. My least favorite is Big twelve Games because those games. It didn't used to be that way, But the Big twelve games this year are all the

same. Houston beats whoever by ten, Texas loses to somebody at home. Cincinnati and UCF I swear they have played eight times this year, Like, come on, I recapped so many sixty eight to sixty four Cincinnati UCF games. Normally that's kind of fun. I don't know that's interesting. Well, either which way, this is inside the pain. I'm Ryan Landers, I'm Van Houtem. For those of you that know, you know. Yeah, so right on with that before we blow the airhorn and talk about Kansas beating

Oklahoma. How was your time in the lone Star state. You were in Texas working over the weekend. Yeah, it was fun. Got to work filming a dance competition, something I hadn't done before, which was a decently fun time. Although I could go several days without hearing any like mid teens pop music for a while. That's I'm good if I don't hear more Taylor Swift or Katie Perry or whatever. They didn't turn down for what. Nobody had a dance they did, Okay, Okay, they definitely turned down for

what. My sister is a college cheerleader in a private school in Kansas, so all of their cheer routines are it's it's either turned down for what or music in the style of turned down for what. I feel like I hear that song twenty times every time I watch one of the cheercarmps, so I figured it was probably pretty similar. But speaking of similar things, Kansas winning

and Oklahoma, that was kind of the exact same. If you had to think in your brain and you've watched a lot of Kansas road wins at Oklahoma, that's like every game, you know, how like the whenever the NFL will post something like this is every NFL player face swaped together, like it's it's every one portrait for every NFL player portrait that's been merged into one. This game was Kansas and Oklahoma every game they've ever played merged into one.

It was ugly, it was quiet, It was an early bad start for Kansas, and then the ending wasn't even that interesting. That was every ku ou game ever and it was probably the final one. And that either team hit seventy. Yeah, which I'm amazed that either team hit sixty considering how the first half was played. Let's talk all about it. It was muted more producer extraordinary work going on here. So number six Kansas sixty seven,

Number twenty five Oklahoma fifty seven. You didn't watch this game live? How many tears were shed about having to miss that. Uh, none probably rewatched none and none and a half. Yeah, they did rewatch it. And your thoughts were, oh, okay, what I thought was gonna happen? Yeah, pretty much. It's my thoughts are. Yeah, what you said is that it really was like very very stereotypical oh Uku kind of kind of game, Like somehow nothing interesting happened. Even while KU was down like eleven

and came to win, it was still like an incredibly dull game. Of course, I mean I knew the results, so maybe that made it more dull. But yeah, I mean it was rather dull. But for the first time in weeks. Something we haven't talked about is that Kanas won a road game. We haven't got to discuss one of those since the last time they visited Oklahoma. Usually not the case. Usually they drop one down there.

Not this year. Yeah, four and oh and Oklahoma's rare. They did dig themselves a quick eleven point deficit, but a strong finish to the first half got it within five, and then the second half was quite dominant for the Hawks. K outscored Oklahoma twenty four to twelve over the last ten minutes of the game, holding the Sooners to just four baskets in the second

half. Ryan, Are you feeling better about Kansas on the road. Do you think it's a sign of them turning this around, the luck swing back in their favor, whatever you may say, or is Oklahoma just bad? The answer is yes to all of that. I do feel better about Kansas. I think that they had been they hadn't been good on the road. I've made my description of what I think has happened pretty clear. I think

they were a very unlucky one and five on the road. I thought there are a couple of breaks away from escape West Virginia if they're not having an all time performance and if Hunter Dickinson doesn't tip Tyler Perry's basket, and then they beat Case State and Regulation, and then you're like, oh, this is a typical Kansas. Here a couple of weird losses on the road,

but otherwise pretty darn solid. That's still kind of what I think this team is, just with a little bit more misfortune, and they have dropped a couple of road games. The health hasn't been great. What I am most happy about for this team is they are apparently it appears getting healthier. We saw Kevin mccullor back, playing a full thirty five minutes, Jimary McDowell's back. They have their entire roster now, everybody's playing. Nobody is injured everybody.

I'm sure there's people that are banged up, but everybody is active and appears to be trending in the right direction. They got Hunter Dickinson back on track, which he had really struggled in some of his last couple of showings, and they won a road game. It has to be huge going into a bye week where you don't play till Saturday. You have two home home games in a row after this, which Kansas hasn't lost all year at home. They're gonna be six seven point favorites, I would think, against both

Texas and BYU. So you have the opportunity to win three in a row going into two of the final three, which are brutal. Yeah, at Baylor, Case State and at Houston. Two brutal road games and a team that beat is sandwiched in there in between them. Tough ending of the year for Kansas, but yeah, if they can get some momentum going, they get three straight wins. This was the first one we needed to see them win at least one road game to avoid a very possible one in eight Big

Twelve road record. Yeah, I do feel better about them, But I also don't think they necessarily were better here than they were in West Virginia. I think this is just kind of the variable randomness that happens when every team in this league is at minimum solid and at best really good, you play tough teams on the road, and various results happen. I don't know what

what's your thoughts on kind of all those words. Yeah, I mean, I do think I do think you're right that some of it definitely comes down to luck or just an unluckiness fluchy, I guess maybe more so than like luck, like yeah, flu But at the same time, I think there is you know, somewhat of a real problem when you're one in five, you know, like dropping a couple that can be deemed fluky. I do think one in five when the fluke adds up and adds up, I think

that can amount to something that's a little more tangibly a problem. But nonetheless, I do think there's a very good chance that KU now they have tough road games coming up here at the end of this of the season, but I think it's very real chance that KAYU will play a lot better on the road coming up. I don't even think they necessarily played that poorly a lot of the time. I just think they did a few things poorly at wrong times or had weird things happen, like you were saying, Ryan, So

yeah, I do think this is really nice to see though. I think any win you can get on the road, especially when you're one in five on the road, is really nice to have, especially against an Oklahoma team, which, yeah, I don't think either of us think is like all that good, but they're not the worst team of all time or anything. There's still a solid squad that can beat you. So yeah, I think I think a very good sign for Kansas, hopefully a confidence builder going forward.

Well, and before the Texas Tech game, and the Texas Tech game was really bad, there were a lot of things that happened there to make it really bad. The other team played great, you played terribly, and they didn't have their best player. All that stuff resulted in a twenty nine point blowout loss. Before that, they were one and four on the road with a plus four net differential. They were a positive four points ahead of their opponents in road games, and they were one and four. They blew

out Oklahoma State, and they had four pretty close losses. Even if you take that Oklahoma State game away, you had four road losses by a combined twenty points. It's not exactly like they were just getting sliced and diced than everything on the road. These were close games, an average loss of five points on the road. Random and you're right, fluky is the better word,

because they lost the games. They didn't play well down the stretch, but most of those games were coin flips with five minutes left, and usually Kansas is on the right side of where that coin flip lands more often than they have been this year. It ultimately doesn't matter. Are they gonna win the conference? Probably not unless they went out and even then I think they

would still need Houston and Iowa State to lose one more game. But even if they don't win this conference, I think they're gonna finish what second or third probably in this league. Maybe they finish as low as four. Does it matter? Are you gonna feel a lot better about twelve and six Kansas finishing in third? Ending the year having won five of six than you would have about thirteen and five Kansas tying for free. I just don't know if

there's a huge swing. We're just so used to liking seeing them win Big twelve titles. They're probably not going to do that at this point because Iowa State and Houston have been so consistently good. But I don't think that what they've done so far, and those four road losses by combined twenty points in the stinker in Lubbock, I don't think any of that says they can't be one of the five best teams in the country entering March. Right But there's

still a they're a mid two seed right now. If they feel if they seeded the bracket, yeah, I think that's probably true. Yeah, I don't think because if Kansas improves and does win a bunch of big games here down the stretch, I think you feel very good about where Kansas is at, regardless if they actually can win the Big twelve or not. I think winning the Big Twelve not an important thing right now considering where they stand.

Not that it's impossible, but I agree very unlikely considering what Houston and Iowa State are doing this year. You know, a game and a half behind both those teams right now, and the standings again possible, especially you play at Houston again, you could get a game back on them directly. But yeah, I think if you see improvement, actual improvement, which actually my hot take is I don't even know if you actually saw any real improvement from

Kansas in this game. But nonetheless, I think if you do see real improvement, that's what's far more important for them going into the Big Twelve Tournament and into of course the National Tournament than anything else. Well, I'm gonna dump on Oklahoma plenty because Oklahoma just gets out my nerve. I think their football team's prettyal choke artists. Their football team is what everybody made Kansas basketball

sound like. With the great regular seasons and then the underachieving in the tournament. Oklahoma earned that claim more than real star less randomness than Colt. Correct, that's the difference, Yeah, exactly, And Oklahoma's basketball team is the least interesting program out there. I'm gonna talk plenty about Oklahoma, but we'll start with Hunter Nickotsonman kau basketball never got Joe burrowed, but then again,

Villanova did happen, So yeah, no, they definitely did yes. As far as Hunter Dickinson, he was brilliant in this game for the second time this year. He just made Oklahoma his word you can't say on the air, posting twenty points and sixteen rebounds in thirty six brilliant minutes. He was nine for sixteen from the floor. Shooting percentage really went up in the second half for Kansas, not just Dickenson, for all of them. He also

had four assists, which was quite nice. He was able to identify he's being doubled pass out of it. I believe it was. I believe it was Dicktson that passed to either mccolor or Harris on the game tying or go ahead three. I don't rember which one was passed out of some double teams and found the open man. We discussed the Sooners underwhelming front court on the

show You Weren't On. He dominated him in Lawrence. They don't have a lot of pieces that are equipped to stop him, and Kansas went into this game saying we're gonna We're gonna feed him. The rock had to have been pretty good to see after his awful game in Lubbock and not playing very well in the second half against Baylor either first solid showing from Dickinson in a while. Yeah, he was really really good. I was very happy with Dickinson.

I thought he did pretty much everything he could. One of his better conference games than quite a while. Yeah, overall, I think, I mean twenty and sixteen nine of sixteen. Like you're saying, yeah, I mean, he did everything he wanted him to do. He rebounded at a pretty high level, especially when Oklahoma was just like insta like anytime Dickinson got the ball, not just the defender closest to him, but literally all four defenders on the court. He yeah, took two steps in to try to

limit him, and he still goes for twenty and sixteen. Very impressive outing him, and he's done a lot of that this season, of course, but no this. I've had my little nitpicks and critiques of Dickinson. I really don't have any of that. In this game. I thought he was truly sensational. I thought he was fantastic. One of his best games in a while. Yeah. I just clicked on his I just clicked on the box score because ESPN just is like, oh, you just clicked on this

score. Here is a loud highlight video point zero one seconds after you click it, and it was the Dewant Harris game, tying three. Hunter Dickinson catches the ball in the post, immediately double teamed Harris open. He's able to identify that and throw a cross court pass. Dickinson's passing ability is something that I think a lot of Kansas fans underestimate under value. Maybe I was looking back at some stats. I didn't go back crazy far. I think

I went back a little over a decade and he's leading. He has the most assists of any five man in the the eleven or twelve years that I looked at. Yeah, I believe it. I can't think of a better passing big. Ddrich was a pretty good passer. He just didn't have a lot of people to pass to. Dickens then gave it to Quentin Grimes and Von Dotson who just climbed threes, who could not make any threes. Yeah, two Dickson stats. Here, one's good, one's bad. Here's the

good one. First, in two games versus Oklahoma this year, Dickinson had forty four points and thirty rebounds. You know how that goes? Hunter Diginson, Hunter Digginson's I don't know something like that. Whatever the joke I wanted to make is not safe for work? There with all who never do any of those, we all know those. No, not at all. We do not ever push anything that could be considered not safe for work. I

mean, I don't even know why this is on the board. You know, we don't ever do that, the bad stat which will make you scream. So here's the scream in advance. Hunter Dickinson in his last eleven games is shooting nine percent from three. That's two for twenty three, or Tyan Grant Foster a season stat line entering the last game of his season. He has been Tyan Grant Foster in his last eleven games. Yeah, the seven for seven start or whatever that was is a long long time ago. Why,

why, what's that's weird? Yeah, I mean, obviously we knew he wasn't gonna do that all season. We knew he wasn't gonna be like a ninety percent shooter, obviously, but you know he did shoot, not on a high volume by any stretch, but he shot forty two percent last season at Michigan. I think that's kind of what we're hoping was high thirties, low forties on even if it was low volume, which of course we all kind of knew it was gonna be pretty low volume. But yeah,

I think that is that is annoying. Now obviously it's like he's your center, so that's not and he's still got twenty and sixteen in this game. He's still been pretty productive. But on a team that also just struggles to shoot threes, it's like unfortunate that a guy that can also make them sometimes is simply also just going extremely cold from behind the arc. So that is kind of an annoying, frustrating trend more than I think, like a devastating

one. But it definitely like if he starts to hit threes again, I think that would be a boost. Even if a minor boost, I think they could get bigger help from other places. But certainly if he can hit threes again, I do think that would help you often quite a lot. Well, And this is a weird, weird, this is a drought. I mean, Hunter Dickinson last year shot forty two percent on threes, and he was forty four percent in conference play, so very similar what he shot

non conon conference play the year before that. He wasn't nearly as good of a three point shooter thirty three percent on his season twenty nine percent or thirty percent in conference play, again very close. This year, you're looking at a guy who's still, despite shooting seventeen percent from three in conference play, still at thirty four percent for the year, because his non conference rate was

like forty five. So just a weird variance there. We saw Wayne Seldon do similar things and then sometimes it turned around and he shot well in the tournament. Other times it did and you're seeing it's a three part season. Part one very good for hundred Dickinson shooting threes, Part two very bad. What's part three gonna be If it's more like the first and less like the

second, No one's gonna mind too much. But he does so much well that it's really one of the least important factors of his game, I think, albeit one of the nicest to have when it's going. Kevin mccullor returned from injury. Tell me about how he played first time we saw him since the overtime brutal second showing that he had in Manhattan, and there was some rust, but overall got I feel like they may not have been able to scrap this one out had he not been on the court. Yeah, definitely

an interesting performance from him. He was four or fourteen from the floor, which we're starting to grow accustomed to. Not shooting well overall. Did hit a go ahead three with about nine minutes left that put Kansas up for good. His impact was felt primarily on the glass. He had ten points, but did have eight rebounds, something Kansas definitely missed in the games with him out. He played thirty five minutes, which is good to see for a

guy that was banged up. Didn't have many minutes restrictions for sure. Yeah, I mean he definitely he made the Kevin mccullar esque impacts, like he played pretty well on defense. He made a couple of big shots. But yeah, the shooting percentage continues to be a problem. Do you think that's actually a problem, Ryan, or do you think that'll kind of work itself

out. Even if he shoots spoorly they can still win. You think he's playing better defenses because in the non conference he was about exactly fifty percent from the floor. In conference play barely forty three percent, so it has gone down. He hasn't been as effective also average twenty one points per game of the non cons, seventeen in conference play, still very good. Overall, his rebounding numbers have actually got sayed basically the same. The assist number is

exactly the same. The shooting percentages is what's different. Overall. Kevin mccullor thirty five percent from three in conference play. We've seen that go back down to that thirty three percent, which is a little better than what he was doing the last few years. But I mean, cheez, you know, Kevin mclor shot twenty four percent on threes in conference games last year, Like he has always kind of struggled shooting the ball against these very good defenses.

He's a less talented Jalen Wilson. He's a bowling ball that goes and gets you good volume stats, but he may take a lot of shots to get there. Still shooting forty six percent from the floor this year, that's quite fine, and I think it's a byproduct of playing some very difficult defenses and also being pretty banged up. Not super concerned about McCuller. They will go as far as he goes. However, they're inevitable n to see a tournament

loss. Kevin McCuller is probably gonna be like four of sixteen or something like that. That's just kind of how it goes. Yeah, and like zero for five from three if I had yes, that's yeah, the team's going two for fourteen and their season enning three point loss or from three in their season enning loss, and no. Porter Moser has led Kansas in the second half five six meetings and has managed to lose all of those games. He's zero and six versus Bill self and may have been a bit over hyped.

He's not been great at Oklahoma, and even this team, which looked like one of his better teams, definitely falling fast. Porter Moser's only competition for worst coach in the Big twelve is the guy on the other side of the state that I think I have to agree with that, Yeah, I have no like. I think that is just true. He did a great job at Lawyer in one run that started with a buzzer beater just to win the first round game, and then they won the next three in exciting fashion.

People fell in love with them. They played Michigan pretty tough in the final four, and they were consistently pretty good. But why were they really good. They had one super solid big and a primarily a backcourt heavy team that works in mid major leagues. Porter hasn't been able to build a front court at Oklahoma at all. He tried with the Groves brothers. I'll give him credit on that. That just didn't work. They weren't as good of front

court players as you thought they'd be. But this year, the front court's horrible. It wasn't ever gonna work in this conference. He missed the tournament his first year being on the bubble, they were one Big Twelve tournament went away. Remember they were right there with Texas Tech in the semi finals. If they had won that, they probably would have gotten in the second year. They were the worst team in the Big Twelve last year, finished tenth

place this year. I think ESPN's got him as a nine seed right now. I don't think they're gonna make it. Their last few games they still have in their final five conference games. They have to go at Iowa State, at Texas, at Oklahoma State, who isn't good but road game nonetheless, and Houston at home. They could easily lose three or four of those, and then you're on the wrong side of the bubble again. I think he's in over his head, and I project that he is not at Oklahoma

long. I think he bails for a good major job. I think he's over his head. He always leads Kansas. The worst of any of those was the game in Allen last year when they were up ten with five minutes left and blew it. But yeah, he can't close out games. Every single time I turn on an Oklahoma game, they're in it, or they're leading with eight minutes left and they lose. Yeah, because I mean, that's kind of the Oklahoma way. But it is enough of the Porter moserre

at Oklahoma away. And I'm just gonna throw in this too while we're talking about it. That Lloyd Noble Center is it's the worst arena in the Big twelve by far. Yes, it's awful. They have in big letters cheer like a champion on the top of the arena of what what Yeah, what has that team ever done at all? They are, their team is and their arena is, and go go be perennial nine to nine in the SEC. I don't ever need to see anything Oklahoma related ever, that's generous.

I don't need them in the UH in the College Football Playoff every two years to lose by fifty to the one seed. I don't need that like enough. With Oklahoma athletics, how many did they have three Heisman winners in a row and they never did anything. They had back to back and then Herts was up for it. That's right, That's who I'm thinking of. They had three straight years that they snuck into the college football Playoff and the team

with Bakers should have won the Rose Bowl. That was a brilliant game that they were in with that team was actually really good. Yes, that was a fun team to watch. But but then the little next to the team with Kyler and the team with Hurts just got bombed by the four seed or by the one seed in the playoff. That Kyler team that was also very much a ku villanoving and Alabama jumped out to a huge lead. Yeah, and then Oklahoma actually made that a game. They only lost that game by

eleven. It was for four considering considering that it was twenty eight nothing before Oklahoma scored. That game was way closer than it ever should have been. Maybe never actually close, but they actually got in it a little. I'll give you credit for trying to make it sound better than I think it was. That they just they're they're always outclassed like and then obviously it was at

least better than the next team that lost sixty three to twenty one. The LSU game was, and that probably wasn't as much Oklahoma's fault as it was. They played the greatest college football team I've ever seen, one of the best ever. Yeah, who then took took care of a very good Clemson team pretty easily the next week as well, So they were they were just really do you think Will Howard also could have won with and that's not true.

I don't, okay, I think Will Howard would have won double digit games, So that LSU team, I do, uh, double digits may be considering how talented they would not have clocked Clemson that way with Will Howard. No, Joe Burrow was very good. This is a Joe Burrow discussion, by the way, that we Landon and I have gone back and forth on for a while, because Landon thinks Joe Burrow is the second best quarterback in football, and I'm not so sure that's not true. I think Josh

Allen is the second best quarterback in football. I don't think you thought that at the beginning of the year. I think that's I think some people have the hot take that Joe Burrow isn't good, And I don't think he's not good. I think he's a system quarterback. Uh, that is somewhat true, but like I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying he is Tom Brady. I think that would be ridiculous, but I'm saying he does have a Tom Brady quality. And then I think he is like he can

kind of create his own system. Like even though Jake Browning put up good numbers, they didn't win with Jake Browning, but they win with Joe Burrow. Even though Joe Burrow, what was Burrow this year like four and six when he got hurt or something like that. He was he was at the

beginning of the season too. They rushed him back from injury. All Right, everybody acts like Joe Burrow is right there with the greats in the playoffs, and the man has thrown like seven touchdown passes in five career playoff games, and he's thrown one fourth quarter touch down pass and his playoff career. All I know is I watched him have like five chances to take the lead on the Rams and go win that Super Bowl, and he could not do it on any of them. I'm not saying he's Mahomes, but I'm saying

he's good. He's actually good. No one's Mahomes. No one in the history of time has been Patrick Mahomes. Michael Jordan maybe isn't even Patrick Mahomes. But Joe Burrow is a good quarterback. Now that being said, Joe Burrow is much better at what he does than Oklahoma is, So I guess that's kind of how we got off track with Sure is better than Johnny Furfey. I like Johnny Furfey a lot more. I don't know. Do they look alike and they don't really look alike. Their names start with the same

letter. I guess that's that's true, and that's it. And the second letter in their names is the same too. I guess that's kind of where the similarities stop. Furfey was second on the team in score. The second and third letter of their last name are also the same. Wow, look at that. Basically, if it's it's like the Taylor Swift fans who were trying to find all the different numbers that added up to thirteen to get Super

Bowl conspiracies going, that's what we're doing, sister. Yeah? Really, Oh so you live with a sweet I guess you don't live with your with your parents and sister anymore. That was a while ago. But your sister is a designated Swifty. Uh. She became one only after the Kelsey and Swift things started. Okay, that's that's fair, that's that makes sense. I I Taylor Swift's music. I've liked Taylor Swift's music for a while. I think she's quite good. I don't really understand the full on obsession with

her personal life and her dating life. I don't understand that with anybody. No, I don't. I don't either, even though you do know that Josh Allen's girlfriend's name, and I didn't know that. Yeah, because Hailey Steinfeld is extremely attractive woman and is good in movies that I like, and she's dating a better quarterback than Joe Burrow. Yeah, and according to Bill's fans, the best quarterback that's ever lived. No, maybe if you take

out I'll takeout playoff wins. Yeah, I guess did that work, Furfey, No playoff wins yet? For him, but hopefully he gets them this year. Fifteen points, nine rebounds, thirty seven then it's very good stat line. Still not shooting a ton, I think that's more because he's being guarded very well. Five for eight overall, three of five from three for Ifey went through a stretch where he missed ten straight threes. We've now seen

him put in a couple. I think he led the team, which was not saying much against Texas Tech. Then he goes out and puts up fifteen in this game. He was pretty much all of their early offense. He was the reason they didn't get buried alive in the first half. Really really good fifty to fifty that he comes back, I think at this point. Yeah, I was saying without that after watching the game this morning. Yeah, I don't know. I could see an NBA team taking a flyer on

him, for sure. I could also see him coming back, especially at the NILS there. Yeah, I think part of you mentioned him not taking

a ton of shots. That's also because, as we kind of talked about, the one thing in his game is he essentially has to have other people create the offense for him because it basically has to be an open look from three or transition opportunity, which he can be very good in both those situations, and there is a skill to that, of course, but he's not gonna be like Devonte Graham yet where he can just kind of he can dribble make his own shot, or he's not a great driver, yet he has

shown flashes of that, so it kind of has to be an open look that he's in a catch and shoot opportunity or has to be transitioned. But that honestly makes it even slightly more impressive that he puts up the numbers that he does because he just has a knack for being in the right place at the right time, Like he seems to be a very intelligent player. Yeah, of course I noticed that knocked down the threes, three threes in this game. Yeah, he was really good. Nice to see him back and

forth. Hence all the offensive rebounds usually the more offensive rebounds, again, especially as a guard, is a sign of very good instincts. We saw guys like Andrew Wiggins, primarily player on the perimeter, was an excellent offensive rebounder because his IQ was just so good. A guy that could just recognize where he needed to be to be in a position to grab the ball.

A little bit of that with Furfey came out of nowhere this season, like he did none of that in non con I know he played a lot less, but like you saw essentially no sign of that. And then all of a sudden he starts and he's like this amazing rebounder. Like I don't there's any particular reason for that, or like it's a talent flip on. It's

just the raw talent. It's somebody who is like it's a little bit of the Joel and Meat effect, the guy that had all the ability that then just started getting more comfortable, caught up to speed with the way the game works, and the ends things take over. Andy Katz at the beginning of the year posted his top ten preseason small forwards and Johnny Furfey's name was on that list, and everybody was like, what what what is he talking about?

This is a guy that might not even play much this year. So before Arterio Morris left this when we thought Nick Timberlake would be good, people thought Furfrey maybe getting mop up minutes at that point, and he wound up being correct. Some of the people knew exactly what Kans has had with furfe I think that it is fifty to fifty. If he goes, this is a pretty weak draft class. But if Furfey comes back next year, I think he has all the makings of a top five pick. Really, he's

brilliant. He's going to be a brilliant basketball player. You could argue that's the reason he comes back, because unless he finishes this year on like a Malik newmanesque heater, right, Yeah, Like he probably is like a second round pick. Oh, I think he's a first round pick at this point. He he could be a first round pick. Obviously, NBA drafts almost solely on potential, so I could see that. But then the argument would be, if you come back, you have the chance. Because I totally

agree. I think he could be a guy that averages like eighteen and like seven next year, forty one percent from three, that has the Grady Dick, the Grady Dick best case scenarios season next year. Right, he could easily easily be a lottery pick if not higher. Yep. And I think that the nil makes it interesting too, As you said, like it used to be I'm a friend's first round pick. Now could wait a year come out and be not make any money, add another year to my It's how

old I'll be whenever I come out and then go top ten? Is it

worth it? And there was some some you know, the way it used to be, it may not have been worth it to lose a year of how much a year of million dollar making to make a little bit more out whenever you are ready to come out, Whereas now with an il, I'm sure you could figure it out and make seven figures at Kansas, uh doing commercials and getting paid to stay there for sure, right and then then come out next year wherever you've kind of made up for that gap that you otherwise

would have been making money. So yeah, I think it's very interesting. kJ Adams nine points, four rebounds, thirty three minutes. I don't really want to beat the dead horse here continues to not be much of a factor in the rebounding game. He had a good second half. He had zero and one at halftime and finished with nine to four. So he was more impactful when Kansas started to get a going electric player in the open court fantastic

whenever he gets a shot at the rim. He's the big twelves leading field goal He's the Big Twelve leader in shooting percentage. So the weird slide where he was one for ten against Tech and then a bad first half year was never gonna last. I still think that the rebounding is gonna be a problem. It's not a problem when Kansas is making fifty five percent of their shots, because then they're fine. You saw it against Houston. Doesn't matter what

the rebounding numbers were. They're shooting well enough to stay ahead of everybody. But when they're struggling to make baskets, Wow, does every possession become that much more valuable? And having a foeman that can't rebound hurts? Yeah, And I also try to pay attention to that specifically in this game. Weird because I think Ken J. Adams, as we've talked about many times now, is a very good basketball player. I think he's really good in a

vacuum. I do think, and I think he's an intelligent basketball player too. I think he does a lot of things well, his passing ability, he can see the floor really well, but he is he just is like not a very instinctual rebounder, which is weird for a guy that's that athletic, that strong. You think it's the instincts. I just see a guy who I don't think is long enough to I don't think he's physically enough,

at least in specifically paying attention to that. In this game, he was out of place decently often for rebounds, and it was mostly only when he was specifically more quote unquote randomly in place for rebounds when the ball kind of bounces his way. Was he getting rebounds and not the best rebounding team. He had ten in the game at Allen Field House against them too, So

I guess that's also there. And I'd have to go back and like really watch like the games again and watch tape of him to see if that's been true all season or if this is just kind of a weird outlier in that specific regard. But yeah, he doesn't feel like he gets in place a lot, and he's not the longest guy ever, so that definitely could be

part of it too. But I agree, definitely a little bit, much like Hunter Dickinson's three point shooting, something that I don't think inherently, like in a vacuum would kill the team, but when you factor in the rest of the team's strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, becomes that much more glaring exactly.

Yeah. And if you have a four or five game run in March where Dickinson makes forty percent of his threes and kJ rebounds, well, I don't know if you can pencil anybody in beating this team at that point, but you need those things to go well whenever you don't have the depth to make up for it. I we'll talk about the bench in a minute. The only other starter we haven't discussed dw One Harris eleven points, seven assists, thirty seven minutes. He was just four for twelve from the floor,

but he quarterbacked the offense that surge in the second half. I have no complaints about de One Harris's game. I don't think I've watched a single game this year where I've said, Wow, they lost that game because Dwan Harris. And on the flip side, I know I've said many times as well, one of the big reasons they won that game was the one Harris. I'm convinced he's not going to be a liability in any sense whenever they lose. You may want him to do more, but he's not gonna be what

kills you. And I was glad to see him actually attack and score or try to for sure. Yeah, it was only four for twelve. I liked his aggressiveness and I only went like one for four from three I think is what it was. His make was a big one, but yeah, I'd rather have to be I'm glad he was trying to put the ball in the basket. I'd rather have him be four for twelve than three for four.

Really, Like, I know that sounds kind of stupid, but I need to want Harris to shoot more than that because there people may think that sounds crazy, right, Oh, but that's that's so many more misses going from three to four to four of twelve. Well, if the one Harris is going to take those, who are those other eight shots coming from probably somebody who's gonna miss him. So I'd rather do want Harris attack the basket. Or if he only goes three for four, he better have like eleven

assists. Yeah, then that's also totally fine unless it's a GA where kJ and Hunter are just doing their thing. Landon, I don't know if you realize this live, but you watched amazing thing happened in the game of basketball. You watched the worst three point shooting defense ever in the first half. That team got such a good pep talk from Bill self in the second half that they turned into the best ever I think statistically the best ever three point

defense in the second half. Pretty amazing. I had people on Twitter yelling about how Javan McCom first game he had made three threes in a game in a month and a half. Oh, the defense is so bad. And a twenty nine percent shooter starts three for three. Oh my gosh, the defense is so bad. And then suddenly the defense was not bad because Oklahoma started missing. Yeah. Yeah, that's really just the amazing strategist Bill self, is it is, let you just get into a place where their comfortable

shooting threes. Yeah, only the lead to the downfall. No, obviously, No, that really isn't really isn't the case very much. It is astonishing to me that, like you can set your watch by it halfway like that, if you're shooting under thirty percent from three, you can just pencil like at least two makes in against the Jayhawks. Like, I don't know how that happens quite because that's like weirdly fluky beyond reason, Like there should be a reason for that, but there just isn't. Well, it's because

the defense is the worst ever. Some fans Oklahoma seven for twelve to start from three, and then they made one of their last eleven like it's it's it's a there's a lot of variants with three point three point. Three point defense is really weird because the best three point defense you can play is just simply not allowing the other team to take very many threes. That's three. That's three point defense, missus and makes like I was thinking about this earlier.

I was thinking of this exact conversation I saw into the future, and I realized we were going to discuss this again because the show goes the same. That's how it works. The Nick Timberlake two possessions at the end of the Baylor game are a perfect example of how we are both kind of right about three point defense. Ye, that is atrocious three point defense as far as like he left two guys like wide open, like as wide open as

you can very good. Yeah, like like practice open. But they missed both shots, and so like, yes, it's bad defense, but at the same time, they didn't go in, and so that is kind of the fortune that you do have, and that does exist in three point defense. So it's a two way street. Obviously, you'd much rather have a hand in the face. But just because there is or isn't doesn't inherently mean it increases or decreases the likelihood sometimes of a miss or make. But it

does not inherently mean that the ball is or is not going in. And that's that's just how defense works. It is really annoying when every team ever knocks down all their threes against Kansas. That's weird. That's how teams on the road are making Like Kansas on the road is allowing like forty one percent of their opponents threes to go in, and that number is twenty nine percent.

And I've seen people try to be like, well, that's because Allen Fieldhouse is so tough, isn't that kind of proving the point that it's not Kansas's defense that's doing it. There's a lot of variable there's a lot of variances with three point shooting, like and that also, you expect to defend a little bit better. You expect your defensive numbers to be slightly better at Allen than they do on the road. Obviously, the other team's not in

their element. That's fine, but come on acting like that. That's there's plenty of variants in that. That's a small sample size. They're not fifteen percent worse guarding the three on the road, that that their three point defense on the road would be the worst in all of D one basketball by like five percent. They're not that pad guarding the three. No, weird. I do think it's it's pretty. It's pretty crazy to suggest that it's only

because Kansas is defending poorly that other teams are making their threes. People need scapegoats like, yeah, it's it's pretty. It's pretty wild. Yeah, I think. And not that I'm a basketball expert by any stretch. I'm not even close. But I do think like that's a relatively casual take to say something like that. Well, and we talk about things that are bad, how about the bench? How about the bench? And the bench is pretty bad? Wouldn't you say it's really bad? It's really really bad.

So, yeah, I was working during this game. I got to see like the last two minutes or whatever. But I did get to check the score a couple of times, and nearer the end of the game, I saw that Jamar McDowell was tied for the bench lead in shots and led the bench in points with both one shot and two points, which was just truly awful. The bench as a whole played twenty two minutes and that was the only two points they scored. Jamar McDowell did get it. He played four

minutes. Parker Brown got four minutes of cardio, as Ryan said, Marco Jackson got a foul in four minutes and maybe one assist, maybe not. And Nick Timberlake fouled three times in ten minutes. This this is why this team will lose. Oh yeah, in March they have There's just nothing there, Like, there's just nothing there. We talked about in the last couple

of games. I also wasn't on the Tech Show, but that like, hey, even if they lose these couple games and look kind of weird and with Kevin mccullor out, but if that means that Nick Timberlake might get something going, you would take that because that has, like we were talking about earlier, that has way more implication for the rest of their season and for March than winning a random game in Lubbock does right now. But then he just comes out and does nothing again. So what do you make of that?

I think I think he's just not good, and I don't know I think there's any rhyme or reason for him playing particularly well, although he just got more shots and more minutes and maybe he's a guy just needs minutes. I don't know, but uh yeah, I don't. I don't trust the bench as far as I can throw it. Well. Tamberlake was I want

to. I don't know if I say better, because he did put up eight points against Baylor, albeit in a game with lots of ups and downs for him, and then he let them in scoring with thirteen ins Tech, but none of those shots came when the game was even competitive. So he hasn't had a game where he's gone out and gotten you ten or twelve points and played legitimately well in more ways than not in a game that they've needed every one of them. Yet that has not happened. And Timberlake against against

Texas Tech. I don't know if you remember, but I said after the Baylor game, if Nick Timberlake can give him eight plus points a night the rest of the year, I don't know. If they lose again and then he gives them thirteen ins Tech and they lose by twenty nine. So it's it's they need quality minutes from someone on the bench, they're probably not getting it. Timberlake's your best bet, and he played ten minutes without shooting much. I don't think he was a liability in this game. He just didn't

score. I guess he's been a liability in a while, to be honest, I think he's gone past being that bad since most of conference play, probably, but he just he's just not given you anything. And on a team that is struggling to shoot and is struggling to find great scoring consistently from anyone not named Hunter Dickinson and sometimes Kevin mccullor or Johnny Furfy, like that is a problem that you are not getting anything from the bench. It's essentially

last year again. Oh yeah, yeah, it is last year. And look how that worked. They wound up having a couple Grady dick didn't play as well going into the tournament, Jalen Wilson was banged up, and they got blown out by Texas and then they lost Arkansas. The last year their final three games because the bench really couldn't do much against athletic teams that had a very good bench. Both Texas and Arkansas had benches. It does matter.

I think bench plays a little overrated over the course of a regular season, but it can be really helpful in the tournament. Something else that was bad the refs they were I don't know if you saw the did you see the foul on Hunter Dickinson where the guy ran into him, fell down like full on, arms flailing everything, just ran right into his stomach and fell down. And Doug Sermons comes running over as like foul on number one because what else would he do? And Franz like, oh, Doug Sermons wouldn't

call anything unless it was a legit foul. I know him personally. Fran Facilla, according to fran Facilla, knows everybody that's ever lived. Fran Fracilla thinks that Bill Self and he are best buddies because Self lets him wear one of those I volunteered at Bill Self's fantasy camp. Teacher always mentions Greg Gurley, Yes he does, Greg Curley, he does, and he acts like that. Greg Gurley, who you know has played at Kansas and has been

around the program since he was an eighteen year old kid. He acts like he's always having to explain to Gurley what the team's doing wrong. He was like, Greg Gurley asked me, why are we playing well? I'm sure Greg Gurley really wants your opinion on why Kansas isn't playing well. Fran I'm sure. I just I don't. I don't like Fran. I know he's a little games he's a little turd, and he's actually than I would be at announcing basketball games. But surely ESPN can find somebody. Well, you'd

think, but ESPN hires a lot of very interesting people. Just let Bill Walton do all of it. That's what I have to say. No, that's not true either. Forty four percent from the floor, thirty two percent from three, and fifty percent of the line. None of those numbers are great. Yeah, that last one especially off. Yeah, they were like one for six or something to start it. Actually finished strong to get to fifty percent. They were plus eleven on the glass. Mccullor playing was a

big reason. There. Also helps when your opponent only makes four shots and a half, you're gonna get some rebounds when that happens. Also, only eleven turnovers. I'm with you. I don't did they play better in this game than they played against West Virginia in case State. I don't really think they did, but it all No, I don't think the other team just didn't make a bunch of threes in the second half like both of those teams did. Like, but you'll take it, you'll put it in your pocket.

It's a great time. By the way, I would so much have rather seen them win this one than win the Texas Tech Game and then lose this because now you're going into a week long stretch with people healthier, you have an opportunity to get that arrow pointing upward. I think it is twenty

wins for Kansas. Also, I don't have the stat but I think they've won twenty games every year since the first year of the Roy Williams era, which is just ridiculous, including the COVID season which which claimed so many teams twenty game streaks. Like I think Michigan's States Dukes and Gonzagas not Gonzaga. It might just be Michigan State Duke and Kentucky something like that. They all died in the COVID year. Kansas still managed to get there there, Bill

self, very consistent. Good road win, right, you'll take it? Oh, you definitely take it. Yeah, and again they struggled in Oklahoma. Usually they drop at least one in the state of Oklahoma, and they didn't this year, So you'll definitely take that Big twelve games. Well, we have six more, I think, most of which are pretty uninteresting. We both said that this is kind of a mess section, so let's see how fast we can go. Starting with the team though that deserves the utmost

of respect Number ten Iowa State eighty two, Texas Tech seventy four. I don't think anybody saw the Cyclones coming, But if TJ. Alzelberger is not the Big twelve Coach of the Year, I do not know what the why they would even bother having said award, Yeah, they are really good. I thought they'd be all right. They are very very solid. Cyclones are twenty and five overall, still undefeated. In Hilton Coliseum, they got twenty four points from Keishawn Gilbert, including four threes. Man, if he was

against Kansas, he must be like a twenty six percent shooter. Darren Williams followed up his twelve or twelve game versus Kansas by wait for it, everybody making three baskets as Texas at got a better whistle, but turn it over sixteen times. As the Cyclones continue to roll and are in strong contention to win the Big twelve. Huge huge game coming up this week with Iowa State

and Houston playing for a first place in the Big Twelve. If Iowa State can upset Houston, they have to win on the road, and they're a ten point dog, which I think is kind of a lot to points is ludicrous. Yeah, that's there there plus ten tonight. If they can win that game, then they'll have the sweep over the Cougars and they will definitely be in the driver's seat. Also, Iowa State don't want to be that guy didn't have to go at Kansas, didn't have to go at Texas Tech.

That very possibly two l's there definitely helps whenever you don't have to do that. Unbalanced Lee schedule is bizarre Tech whatever. They're very met in my opinion. Number three Houston eighty two, Texas sixty one. We talked about it. Houston and Iowa State are now locked atop the Big twelve ahead of their big Monday showdown. Cougars have bounced back nicely from that loss at Allen.

They've won four in a row LJ. Cryer with twenty six points and six threes sixteen eleven and six from Big twelve Player of the Year favorite Jamal shed He's the favorite if they win it, right, I think I think he has to be. He's their best player. Yeah, that's usually how it goes. Best player on the best team. Texas is and their coach is And I can't believe Rodney Terry got five years because Rodney Terry should have never been given any years. We all saw that coming. What were they

thinking? Yeah, I think that was one of your better predictions of the last few seasons on the show. Rodney Terry not great. Well, the Maexas was like a dominant winner before Rodney Terry. But I think that's the thing. If he had taken over a you know, a unranked four and four team, and then they turn into a top ten team, they get to two seed, they makely eight. Okay, that's one thing, but they were ranked exactly what they were at the end of the year as they

were the day he took over. Like, I just don't know how you can look at that guy and say, oh, he took us to the next level, because he didn't. And your Texas. I have a feeling that they will be in the market for a new coach sooner rather than later. TCU seventy five Kansas State seventy two, entertaining game that was ultimately decided on a heartbreaker for the Wildcats. Their NCAA tournament hopes are dwindling. They've now lost five of six. You'll never got who the win was against.

Yeah, it couldn't be the Jayhawks. They took an eight point lead with twelve minutes left and then scored two points over the next five minutes to fall behind tied at the final minute. Jamiir Nelson junior not however, old actual Jamier Nelson is in the game, winn three with one second left to win the game. Micah Peeve scored twenty six points. Case State went one of fifteen, which is a worse than ty Foster seven percent from three. Sorry, Toyan, you're good now, Ton's good Now, He's a good at

a while. Yep. Tyler Perry, who made four to threes in the second half versus Kansas is also of fifteen, which is against in the two game sets. That's unbelievable. And I had a couple of people being like, well, what do you think he's closer to forty percent or seven percent? He's not four threes and a half good, is my point. It's annoying. Also, everyone must think Kansas has the single worst defense in the

Big Twelve, which is just literally not true. They do. And what if I told you that in the last ten years, if you judged solely based off of three point percentage allowed, this is one of Bill's better five Kansas teams on defense. It doesn't feel like it, but that's true. I would imagine whenever you have people that are watching Tyler Perry go all Buddy healed against Kansas for a half, then I guess it probably would look that

way. Speaking of teams that went Buddy healed on Kansas, A game number twelve, Baylor ninety four, West Virginia eighty one. Literally everybody in this conference can beat West Virginia except for Bill self. Ass Oh, only six Baylor players scored, but they made twelve threes, highlighted by five from Jayan Nune and twenty three points from Jacoby Walter. Baylor is in third place in the league. They have an outside chance. I don't know if they're gonna

get there. But they do have a they're in the running still. They have home games against Kansas and Houston the next two Saturdays, so definitely a chance. Yeah, West Virginia saw Raekwon Battle and Jesse Edwards combined for forty six points and sixteen of twenty six shooting, and it was a three possession game minimum for the entirety of the second half. That's just how West Virginia's role in the season, unless it's Bill, in which case they win.

West Virginia shot about thirty five percent on threes in this game. That is exactly a ninety four to eighty one l That is exactly how the Kansas game would have gone had they shot thirty five percent instead of fifty five percent that night. Yeah, that's probably true. Oklahoma State ninety three, number nineteen BYU eighty three. I can't believe none of us picked Oklahoma State at home

because we've all thought Byu is overrated here. But have no fear Land and they are still tenth in the net and the head of Kansas on Ken Pom. If Bayu loses out, are they gonna drop below twenty in the net? Well, they are a forty one percent win chance. At Allen Fieldhouse. According to ESPN, right, they win that game four out of ten

times, which I've seen. How all they shoot the three? Maybe Oklahoma State had their West Virginia against Kansas offensive explosion, shooting sixty percent from the floor and making eleven threes. Somebody named Jamron jam Eun Jamiron maybe Jamiron Jamiron Jamiron Keller scored twenty two points and went four for four on said threes. Yeah, Oklahoma State had their game where everything went right and they gotta win.

They're no longer in last place. I believe Cincinnati seventy seve Yeah, seventy four, Dad, this is five seconds or less on this game. I'll read fast. Then Cincinnata was in control of this, but furious UCF comeback forced a tie with a minute left. Free throws were carried a home victory for the Bearcats. Fifteen points from Dan Skillings Junior. You see a four n eight in league play, but only two of those losses were by

double digits. They've definitely exceeded expectations even at four and eight. I mean, I think we thought they would be like a three or four win conference team. Yeah, in total, but they've been feisty. They've been a solid ad. Yeah they have, and obviously I know who they beat. Damn it Bill like that. That's a big difference. Though. They're four and eight. They have wins at Texas and over Kansas, Like if you if Kansas just closes that out, they're three and nine with three h teams

on their on their resume like that, that goes a long way. Big twell standings last week for buy so these records will consolidate soon. Number one Houston and Iowa State tied entering their big Monday show down at nine and three. Baylor just one game back of those two in third at eight and four. Number four is Kansas. They're eight and five, tied for fifth. TCU and Texas Tech they are seven and five, seventh place and the standings, but tenth in the net is BYU. They're six and six. Make

it makes sense. In eighth Oklahoma six and seven. How it makes sense is a lot of quad four victories patting those metrics. That's how it works. Yeah, and number nine is Cincinnati and k State who you expect, and oh my gosh, there's Athletic Department Juggernaut Texas and Rodney Terry's glasses sitting at five and seven, and then in twelfth the aforementioned Knights of UCF there four and eight. Thirteenth is now a tie between Oklahoma State and West Virginia.

They're three and nine. They are both going to be a waste of a hotel room for a night when they play the Big twelve tournament here because they will lose their first game and we will be done forever with both mci wins yep, and neither one of them will have the same coach next year. Also probably accurate a team that probably shouldn't have their same coach next year

aftert least after this other games. The game of the day wound up being a complete laugher, as Number one Yukon just whitewashed number four Marquette eighty one to fifty three. It wasn't even that close, by the way. That was with a late garbage time push against the walk Ons, the Huskies dominated in Hartford on the glass, grabbing eighteen offensive rebounds and a statement win that

clearly showed everybody who the best team in college basketball is. As of right now, Yukon is twenty four and two overall, still not number one in Ken Palm. That would be the mighty Houston Cougars by a couple of points, by the way, but Yukon has already just won, went away from clinching the biggiaess. They're fourteen and one overall, they've won fifteen straight.

They are undisputedly the best team in the country right now, and one of the losses Kansas good resume win for the Jayhawks, the team that had the argument of being the best team in the country, but I don't think can

say that after this loss in the Big Ten. Ohio State, with an interim coach and f everything Stone number two produce seventy three sixty nine in Columbus, a wild loss for the boiler Makers, who went twenty for twenty at the free throw line and still lost by four to Ohio State, who's not exactly a giant killer this year. I mean, Kansas lost to West Virginia and that's a similar loss to this by West Virginia playing their best game in

years. Purdue just crapped the bed at Ohio State, which happens right like they have a great season going, You're not gonna win all of them. They're gonna disappoint a lot of people in their office bracket pools. Here in about four weeks, it's gonna happen. I had somebody on Twitter. It was one of the Riders. And if you're a college basketball writer, then you just have delay your nuts on the line with takes that are boring and

irrelevant. But this writer for twenty four to seven Sports says, go ahead and get your likes in retweets about how Purdue's gonna choke early in March again, They're gonna be fine, And I just responded, boy, I agree, I think Purdue is fine, but living on that Purdue won't choke again this March. Just you watch Hill. That's a dangerous place that I'm not sure I would want to let to build my bed in. Like, why would you go out on a limb and say, oh no, Purdue's not

gonna choke. Guys don't even joke about that. That's all they do until they win, until they at least make a Final four. Yeah, I have no lose to a really good team that they're not as good as yes bye bye. They have to lose to a team that is within what ten points of their seed? Yeah? For real? I think Purdue is really good, But I don't think there's any team in the country that is more dependent on officiating than Perdue. If games are being called really tight, they

have an advantage. If they're letting stuff go as they did in the game where they lost to the sixteen seed, It's gonna be a little tougher without Zach Edi, who has shot one hundred ninety eight more free throws than hundred Dickins in this year, which also does not make any sense in the world. Well, the ku fans are like Wudska's Hunter's soft. Yeah, one hundred and ninety eight free throws because he's soft. Okay. Also in the

Big Ten, number twenty, Wisconsin's fall from grace continues. They lost in overtime to Iowa, not even the Iowa with Kitton Clark. And also number fourteen Illinois beat Maryland on the road in a game where Terrence Shannon Junior and Kevin Willard got into a bit of a shouting man. Did you see that? Not see that? Now? So remember Scott Drew got thrown out of the game for having his kneeling knee on the coach's box line because they were

trying to enforce keep coaches off the court. Well, in this game, Illinois has a fast break and Terrence Shannon is running down the sideline right in front of the Maryland bench, and the throws a little wild where Kevin Willard just reaches up and grabs a ball that's like in play to try to keep it from going out of bounds, and Arren Shannon starts freaking out like I

was gonna catch that. That was a transition dunk, and the Maryland coach starts like wagging his finger in Tarren Shannon's face, like as if to say him, you stay in line, don't yell at the coach, young man, And it was just really weird. I don't know how that's not an instant ejection for a coach to catch a pass intended for a player that stops the game. I hate this culture. Now. This is not to justify like like players just yelling at people, which like I am generally not in

favor of, And that's not what he was doing. He was just like he was trying to lead to the ref. He stopped the fast break. What are we doing? But I do hate this culture that we've built up of refs and coaches being above the law. Uh huh. Yeah, people, we players should be able to talk to them. They're all normal people, guys. Most of these guys, especially in the last few years, are well over twenty years old. They're they're adults, they're they're they're borderline

grown men. You know. I understand that the coaches are much older. Whatever. I don't really care about any of that. You gotta be able to have a conversation out there. I agree. Yeah, No, I completely agree that the whole and that whole thing started to change whenever players started getting paid and you could see coaches. I mean, I like how they're they got paid, but now that they're making as much as me, I don't. I don't like it as much. Like we gotta do something about

this, you see, like that same stuff going on. It's a societal thing for sure. At number twenty two, Kentucky was the big winner I think of all the teams this weekend. They went on the road at number thirteen Auburn and one in a raucous college game day environment, seventy to fifty nine in a game that they controlled from the start. They were up like nineteen to six and it was never closer than five. I don't think Antonio

Reeves had twenty two points. The Wildcats defense suddenly came to life, holding Auburn to just thirty one percent from the floor. Are we starting to feeld Kentucky again? I think there's more than one time. I think they're so talented, but I am absolutely picking them to go further than they will in my bracket. Yep, same, I do I really like the talent on the floor. I do not like cal Perry. No. Therefore, when

they lose to pick another Saint, it'll be pretty hilarious. They sure feel like a five to twelve that everyone's gonna pick to go to the final four, and they lose to that twelve seed. That definitely could happen. I could see that. Or they could also get a favorable matchup and lose to a case state again. Yeah in the sweet sixteen, talking about like, oh man, talented Kentucky flex their muscles. Yeah, they lose to like Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah, seriously, that's I think that that's more likely

than losing to twelve. We've seen that many times. Oh yeah, my turn again. Sorry. On number eleven. South Carolina, who's been very good, did not play very well. In this game, they lost to a terrible LSU team at home after blowing a sixteen point lead, capping their lousy week right as they gained the lead in the conference. Leading the SEC is now number fifteen Alabama as they are the first to ten wins after hanging one hundred on Texas, A and M the Crimson Tide. Some of us

do, some of us don't. I'm some of us on the second one. The Crimson Tide are ten and two and Tennessee, Auburns, South Carolina and Florida and Kentucky all find themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time behind Alabama with nine or eight wins each, SEC is a crap shoot. I think it's the second best league out there. And sorry, yeah, oh boy, okay, you know what, Zoo maybe the worst. Taking the history of this podcast, Missouri led Ole Miss by Rodney Terry is bad.

There's some Miszoo's gonna win twenty games. Yeah, there's about five of them, honestly, because yeah, Missouri is definitely gonna lose twenty games, if that's what I meant. The Tigers led Ole Miss by ten on the road with twelve minutes left and still found a way to blow it. The Tigers are oh and twelve in league played. They do get this old Miss team at home in a few weeks. That's probably their only shot to avoid oh to eighteen, eight and seventeen. Overall, they've won once since the

week after Thanksgiving. Good lord, it's really bad. Not as bad as this, arguably not as bad as number twenty one Virginia beating Wake Force forty nine forty seven. I thought football season was over. How about this for a weird stat. Virginia missed their first ten free throws, made one with four seconds left in the game, and finished one for eleven at the line. Something new every game in this sport, really, But something that's not

new is Virginia not getting out of the forties. That's that's that shouldn't count. You should not get to count that. I can't wait to watch them loose to New Mexico. I don't want them anywhere near New Mexico. I don't want them in the tournament they're going to be though. Yeah, and they're right there. They're only game back of North Carolina. I think the acy so gross. Yeah, every year they're the same thing. It's time

to ban Tony Bennett, the ACC powerhouse is both one. Number seven UNC rolled over Virginia Tech at home and number nine Duke got a nice road win at Florida State. These two teams and Virginia, Yeah, they're all within a game of each other. At the top of the league. Who is the best? I think it's still North Carolina. I do too. I think Duke has the highest ceiling. I don't know if they'll get there.

I saw some stat of how they've won, like thirteen or fifteen. Yeah, okay, go look at those wins, like, good for them. I would hold her name in Louisville, Wake Forest a bunch of throwing some Syracuse and that's about it. Yeah, if they have two more road games in a row, let's see where they are after that. Playing this week or the leaders in the Pac twelve, if you can call them that, Number five Arizona bea Arizona State one hundred and five to sixty, because that's

just what the league is. They're still in first place at eleven and three. Ryan, you do you ask, do I know who the second place in the league is. They've won seven in a row. In our half game back of the Wildcats at eleven and four, play in Tucson this week, so they have a chance to win the league. I don't know my Pac twelve basketball standings very well. Here's that hint. I'm gonna say it's not something you can't I want to take one guess you'd give me a hint.

It's not so obvious. So I'm gonna say it's like Washington State. That's correct, it is Washington State. I was gonna say, joe Yasafu is your hint. But they were having a slightly better than normal season, and therefore, and they weren't Oregon or Colorado or anyone else that could be remotely good. So and they're they're like a sixth seed right now. Probably they're gonna have their shot at Arizona. I don't think they're gonna win. I actually they're gonna lose by a lot, but you know, well,

we'll see. Still, though, solid season for Washington State. Did they pull into the top twenty five this week? That just came out. Let's take a look are they right now? They are the number twenty one before they are the pack two. They are number twenty one this week, So I don't even think we're picking that game if that goes to show just how little of confidence I have in them. And then Mississippi Valley State no confidence at all here They lost by twenty three to A seven and eighteen Alabama.

A and O you just talked about Did I get to talk about Detroit Mercy or did you guys only talk about the truck? You missed it? They won, They did win, they've won Titans. Yeah, And Missisippi Valley State they are alone in the race of a winless season. They are getting very very yeah. I know it's it's a race full of ranked seems to lose. Since that show Number two per due at the top, they lost to Ohio State, Number four, the fighting Shakas of Marquette. They lost

to Yukon by a lot of points. Second show in a row, Number eleven, South Carolina made this list and then they pummeled. They went tumbling down in the rankings. They got upset at home by LSU Number thirteen. Auburn lost to a potentially surgeon Kentucky team Number ten BYU. Oh sorry, we're not doing net rankings. Number nineteen BYU lost to Oklahoma State. They are still somehow barely ranked. I don't know how. Number twenty Wisconsin loses

again, this time to Iowa. Number twenty three Indiana State. Hope you enjoyed your week in the sunshine. They said this was their first week being ranked since the Larry Bird days, and then they lost both games this week. They lost to Southern Illinois. Is what this says is that they lost it. They lost to Illinois State this week, so not a good week.

Number twenty four Florida Atlammett continues one of the weirdest seasons in recent memory, and they lose to South Florida. Yeah, no one knows how that's he's gonna go. And then forever probably the last time I'll ever read this name in the ranks, because why are they ever rating I hope. Number twenty five Oklahoma lost to and we lost to Nick who now has an eight game lead on you. As you try to win your first Pickup Crown. You're running out of time, sir. They just wait, I'm saving my

best for last year, all right? Yeah whatever myself. So not a lot to ask arcbast today. I'm sorry to disappoint, as I know this is your favorite segment, but we kind of need it because we're going long on the show. Uh, so we're going to start with U. We're going to start with at Dick Underscore Taser, who always has something good for us to answer. And this will be interesting considering. Uh, this is not inside the politics, but it might be for a minute. Here,

it's President's Day, says Wayne Kerr. Correct. Besides Millard, nobody can fillmore. Who are who is the most underrated president? I don't I don't know, I don't know my old Just say Biden or Trump and just watch it. Just watch the fire and ro years. I don't know if you're being serious or if you're just trying to start chaos on this show. It's that one. I've only like, I've only experienced four presidents, and for one of those four, I was like seven years old when he left office.

Yeah, you can't count w h Yeah. Like I wrote a letter to George W. Bush when I was like six, and they sent me a letter back and a picture of their dog, which I appreciate. Really, what was the dog's name? Do you remember of the dog? Yeah? What was the dog's name? I know Obama's dog. I think I think it was a little like black Boston terrier kind of thing. Yeah, I don't remember. Oh duh, it was Barney. I remember Barney. Oh I don't. I don't. I did not know it was Barney,

but I remember the picture. It's still somewhere in the house. Let's let's go with uh, let's go with the HW. It's like not maybe not great, but I think for a guy that only had one term, he probably had a little more going on than normal. I'm gonna roll with Dwight D. Eisenhower. I feel like everybody always, everyone always talks about you know, you have Roosevelts and your Truman's, your wartime presidents. Then you have your JFK was very popular leading into another war, and Eisenhower is just

kind of in the middle there. He's a Kansas guy, the only Kansas president. I have you Have you guys gone out to the to the museum in Abilene? That feels like a very fields family vacation. No, I'm sure my mother would love to, but I'm not driving, can't. But yeah, it's a very very awful drive, unless you like looking at nothing on the way there except for adult video stores. Yeah. Uh no, Eisenhower. I feel like Donald's, there's a loves. There's a lions Den,

there's another lions Den. There's probably some adult video stores and maybe some Dollar Generals, and that's about it on their way to Abilene. But yeah, we'll go with Dwight D. Eisenhower. He was a he had a lot of military experience. He obviously was was big with the D Day stuff. Uh. So we're gonna, we're gonna roll with him. Uh And then part two of Wayne Kerr's question says little known but probably not surprising fact, a lot of presidents were complete Wayne Kurz. Uh, He says,

how about Grover Cleveland? Yikes? And now I want to know what What did Grover Cleveland do? Is what I'm typing into Google because I would go out to assume that probably the majority of presidents were at least moderately to very racist. Yeah, especially back in the eighties, eighteen eighties. So yeah, yeah, but he was. Grover Cleveland was president twice. He had two different terms as of right now, the only one that served to right. Yeah, I was gonna say, you want to make that comment,

I'm not gonna comment on this. I love all the candidates equally. I I wish I could vote for multiple candidates. I love them both. We're taking the opposite turns here. Yeah, I love every candidate equally and I hate Oh yeah, I hope that Joe Biden serves one term and I hope that Grover Cleveland remains the only president to serve two terms non consecutively. You

know that's that's a sentence that think about it, sir. You The Trump Hillary election was twenty sixteen, and then the Trump Biden election was twenty twenty, So that's eight years now of sample size. Have you heard in regard to either election, any human being on TV or in person say, you know, I'm having a tough time to siding I really like them both. Nope, not one, not one time has that happened, So, yeah,

I do. Neither the person has bright blue glasses on or ruby red glasses on, or they're normal person with normal emotions and normal feelings that isn't on cable news, and they are disgusted that either one is running. Yeah. Oh absolutely, Yeah. I'm trying to think of who the who the biggest Wayne Kurves that were president was, And then there were a lot in that like teen range, like the Franklin Pierce era. I know, he was like, nah, man, we don't need this Kansas Nebraska that we're

just gonna We're just gonna let everybody do their own thing. And then like the James Buchanan obviously all the stuff leading up to what Abraham Lincoln did. You you kind of know what what Lincoln did that at least the couple guys before him probably weren't great, just based on how how that would make logical play out Civil War. Yeah, those guys probably handled things less than ideally.

You had a few in their twenties that got shot when they were in office, and then you had two World Wars, and then you had some guys in the thirties that you got shot and off. If my mother has texted me, Herbert Hoover was great regardless of the depression, So probably I'm audible. All right, all right, let's let's take a look. Was was Herbert Hoover a good president? Let's see impact and legacy. There is a Herbert Hoover website. Somebody says he's a very well meaning guy and he

winded up. Somebody says he gets too much hate. That he was a good and honorable man and he would have been much better had the circumstances been different, which, all right, we'll roll with that. Okay, that's expect inside the politics to day. But without a preview, what else are you gonna do at Preston's skirtsek? How bad was previous speculation that the West Virginia loss wouldn't look so bad as the season went on. Yeah, I

was right there with you, man. I tried to I tried to fight the good fight and that they are they are awful, They're they're last right now in the Big twelve. I think, Yeah, I was. I was hopeful. I was hopeful because weren't there a couple injuries with that team, and like, yeah, they haven't had at least playing like better and then it just didn't happen. But also, I think that's the flukest of the losses, that one. It annoys me a lot, but that's not

one I have, like I'm like one. They were both very fluky. One was the biggest blown lead you've ever had in a conference game, and the other was probably the best out of nowhere shooting percentage that you've ever seen an opponent have. And they happened within a week of each other. Because basketball is weird at Show Me Hawk with two questions, is there a way we can jump Houston for the number one seed in Dallas despite a Quad two

and Quad three loss. I will never predict Kansas to beat Houston at anything in the NCAA tournament. I saw how that worked last year when they actually did have the better resume. Yeah, I don't. I don't think there's any chance. No, they're not getting the number one in Dallas unless unless Houston just falls through the floor. I think Kansas could still get a one seed. I think they, if not have to win out, have to do pretty close. But I don't think they're gonna move ahead of Houston.

Houston's too sexy in the metrics. Yeah, I agree, Also show me Hawk. If Kansas goes four to one over their final five regular season games, I'd say they're in a good spot. But if they win out, are they big twelve champs? Yeah? If they went out and go thirteen and five, they'll find a way to win the league. At least that feels like a split. Yeah, because if they went out, then Houston's got at least four losses. Iowa State's probably losing to Houston, So that's

four. Do we think that Houston and Iowa State aren't losing at least one more? Houston's gotta go to Baylor Houston, Yeah, I think five wins. If Kansas can get there with five, I think that's a share. Yeah, if they finish thirteen and five, I agree. I think I think that should get you at least to share. Houston or Iowa State would have to go on quite the tear, yes, to end. Yeah, they'd have to go through the last three weeks without losing more than once.

And I don't know if that's happened for any Big Twelve team at any point. I don't think anybody's gone four weeks with only one loss at any point in this conference race, Just not how it's set up to be at Stefan Timmy seventeen, who joins mccullor and Dickinson on the current All Big Twelve First Team. Oh okay, well yeah they're both on it. Yeah, probably Cryer too. Right, you go to Houston to Kansas players probably, and then I don't know, like, who's Baylor's leading scorer right now? You

gotta have an Iowa State person on there, don't you like? Who's right Keyshawn Gilbert's leading Iowa State and scoring, but Taman Lipsey's the do it all Baylor. I guess you could say Jacobe Walter. I don't know, are we first sure? I think Kansas is definitely going to get McCuller and Dickinson on there. Yeah. I think there's a very good chance unless mcular finishes the season really really poorly or missus games hurt. Yeah, Dickinson's there though

at ky Eden fourteen. When it comes to basketball nicknames, is Paul Pierce being the Truth the best all time? It's one of them. It's really really good. Yeah. Lebron James being King James is just so simple, but it's so good. That's one of the best. It is King James, the Truth, I mean, I mean Black Mamba is like truly elite, like, especially for a self given one. Self given nicknames do not

usually stick, Toby, so it just does. They tried so long to get a good nickname for Pastor Mahomes and then the remember how how they shoved Showtime down our throats so much, and I still can I still have nightmares of of Joe Testatory. Yes football, yep, I remember that very well. And then the best Mahomes nickname came from Andy Reid. It took three years and they finally got it right. You know what's what I'm talking about. Yeah, when it gets when, when it looks grimm be the grim

Reaper gram Raper, that's the act. That's the perfect Mahomes nickname. I'm best basketball nicknames for players, Yeah, black mamb are right there. Let's see here, Iceman, George Gerfin, that's a good one. Yeah, Doctor J. Doctor J might actually be the best. That's so clinton. Yeah, and I like Alan Iverson just going with Ai. I thought that was the good Like the Joker forgot about that one. That one's pretty good. Yeah, I feel like I feel like every like that one comes around

every once in a while. Though, Like he's not the only person that's ever been called Joker. Who's that dude that scored all the points in college that they call pistol Pete Pete Merrivage? Right, Yeah, Pistel Pete's really good and uh, magic people forget that that, like his name is not actually magic. That one's weird because he like actually goes by magic though, right, Yeah, and it's not quite it is a nickname, but like

his nickname is ha Ha, but it's like his name. And then they call Kevin Durant the Slim Reaper. I remember that when he was at Texas. That was a big thing. And now I think, like, yeah, I haven't heard that in years. And Kevin Durant weighs eight well, I mean, he's very tall, but Kevin Durant weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. He's not If I say the baby face assassin, you know what

I'm talking about, right, Yeah, yeah, that's Steph Curry. But yeah, so and and that one, Steph Curry still looks like he did at Davidson. I think so that one has held up over the course of time. Chef Curry. Chef Curry. Yeah, I've heard chef a few times. Who beat who won the three point shooting contest at the All Star competition, But would would keep that really close. She's a stellar she can

they gotta do. They gotta do doubles next year. They got to bring her in, Caitlin Clark into play against like Curry and Ray Allen or you know something like that, or Dame. He's one of the last two Yeah competitions and All Star MVP too. In a game where they scored about three hundred on their own. Geez, do you ever have asked garcy B's Twitter hashtag gascarcy B. Well, we don't have a preview because we're gonna do another show later in the week. But Kansas has a bye week, So

what key takeaways are we looking to find during the bye week? Who wins between Iowa State and Houston. That's a big one. Yeah, that's about it. Can b why you beat Baylor ten seconds? Interesting segment? As always? Here are your pick'ems for that? Yeah, number six Iowa State at number two Houston. I completely disagree with a ten point spread. I think this game's very close, but it's hard to pick against Houston at home. I think they will win. Do I hope Iowa State wins. I'm

gonna do it. I'll give you the Cyclones, all right. I mean that's that Houston hasn't beaten the elite teams. They haven't beat Kansas, they lost with TCU. Those are the two best teams they've played. They beat Texas Tech at home, but this is their toughest home test, and then they'll obviously have Kansas coming up too. They only played Baylor once. Did Baylor and Houston only get one draw against each other? Because that's nonsense.

It feels weird if it's true. Let's see here, considering they're not that far apart. Yeah, they are only playing ones they play in Waco, So Houston doesn't have to do with Baylor twice either. That's kind of stupid. This unbalanced schedule sucks. Yeah, I agree, and now I fully understand why other leagues do not prioritize regular season titles very much. Baylor doesn't have to go at Iowa State, and they don't have to go at Houston. They don't have to play the two leaders on the road this year.

If only that was true for Kansas. Yeah, that's why, exactly, that's why conference titles are kind of crazy. Kansas State at Texas. I am tempted, really tempted, but I just don't think Case State's any good. Texas should be able to overwhelm them with talent. Yeah, two teams that I would pick against most other times at this point, but give me Texas. Yeah, UCF at West Virginia last place Bowl. Any confidence in the Knights? Uh? No? None. Also, two teams that normally

I'm gonna pick against But give me the Mountain Mamas number eleven. Baylor at number twenty five BYU. If you want the Cougars to be ranks coming into Allen Field House next week, they probably have to win this. Do they do it? I think that they do. Actually, yeah, I do too. I wasn't gonna pick them until Baylor's got the home game means Houston. They have a brutal schedule this week. I agree. I think BYU wins at home. It's a good home court. TCU at number twenty three

Texas Tech. Nobody wins in Lubbock. Give me the Red Raiders, yeah, I guess so. And Oklahoma State at Cincinnati A yeah, no, no one will be watching this game, but I think we will all pick the Bearcats. Yeah. Other games. Number twenty four Florida at number thirteen Alabama, big game in the SEC. We all want the Tide. Uh yeah, I think so. All right, take control over this one. I will pick whoever you do. Not. Number one Yukon at number fifteen

Creighton. I think. I think Yukon is like legit, really really good. I think they are actually the best team, So give me them, all right, I'll take Creyton a home. I think you can. I wanted to do that anyway. I think ukon coming off that big win, they just can't win them all. They eventually are going to slow down, even though they are really good. Number eight Duke at Miami. I will take the Hurricanes here. I don't think Miami's very good, but I don't

think Duke's good enough to keep winning all these games. I want Miami as well. A Number seventeen Kentucky. Do they keep it going at LSU? At LSU? Yeah, I think they do too, but this is the exact sort of game where they normally lay a turd like this. We'll see what they can do. So our next show is gonna be Friday night, Right, We're going later this week. I think that's the plan. Yeah,

okay, so it'll come out. I'll drop it early Saturday morning, and then you'll have the whole day because Kansas doesn't play till five o'clock at night against the Longhorns no longer the fighting shakas the fighting Rodney Terry's. That'll be a lot of fun. No, it actually won't be. This is inside the paint on rock Chog blog. I'm Ryan Lands, I am oh I was gonna say my real name, but we're still sticking with that that. I'm watching my first NHL game live in a long time, so I'm

Dylan Larkin. Wow, what's a score? One to zero? What? What's to score? One? Zip? Three to two? Wow, it's a lot. Wow, that's a record. That's a lot. There was a game today that finished ten to seven. Wow. Minnesota beats Vancouver ten to seven. That's very Kansas like to score seven and their opponents make ten, and everybody's like, the defense is so bad. But in Vancouver's case, that is actually true. The defense that is truly apocalyptic. Don't tell

k Twitter. I don't need more heat than mentions. I have enough my nudes in bio responses to sort through. I do not need more responses from people who are Wayne. No, there are well, yeah, some of them are from Wayne, some of them are from Elon's bots. Oh well that's fair. Yeah. You know, whenever we're talking about underrated presidents, in twenty years, president number forty nine, Elon Musk and by that point Kansas will still not know how to guard the three and it'll be a chaotic

show. So enjoy. That's on so many things would be chaotic if that behavior selves elon you can't bye m m hm