All right, so we have our three person rotation back. The Jayhawks are back to smashing teams on the road. But long before we talk about that, Landon just threw a little comment in there and acted like I wasn't gonna say something about it. So Cam, I'll let you be the moderate. I want that Resident Warriors span over here. Resident Warriors span Landon Field says Kevin Durant's two championships count. I say hell to the no, those championships are as fake as it gets. What says you?
This is the most bit. We have had a lot of starts of the show that don't make sense, and I zoned out during this conversation. In the last two minutes, I forgot that this is mentioned. No, it counts. I mean he won, like his team won.
They were I'm glad.
Yeah, they more or less than KU's vacated Final four.
Wow, I mean KU's vacated Final four. They couldn't just well, I feel like we could go in on this for a while, but I just I just felt like I felt like trying to you know, it's been it's been a week since we've all three been on a show, and I felt like ruffling to Lebron.
James's titles counts what you have to do on a like when he went to Miami.
And Dwayne Wade, look, okay, we're not going to act like that. Lebron's Miami first team. Joining that team is even in the same galaxy as Kevin Durant joining a team that he couldn't.
Yeah, they're not.
And they lost already a seventies a paper slip underneath my vertical Dirk Nowitzki in the finals the first year. Yeah, they suck, correct and uh No. Landon was a Warriors fan during the height and to Landon's credit, he is still a Warriors fan, whereas most of them have left as their success has. But I mean, like the Cowboys, they they they well, I don't know Landon, I don't know you. So you were so when Kevin Durant posted that article in The Athletic, you were like two all
right sort of thing. It's kind of like you're you're freaking like the Los Angeles Dodgers when they land every free agent that's that's possible.
Now, Yeah, I was jazzed. I was. I was there for it. Uh to be fair. I I even with the Warriors, I did gain a bit of dynasty fatigue by especially the fourth Calves, whereas I was like, do we really need the same two teams in the finals for another year where one of the teams is just gonna win in the other teams of the Calves, But yeah,
I was, I was pumped. I was really pumped. Also, this is how you have to open a podcast where KU beats TCU sleepily on the road, because uh, you could have had this game could have happened in literally any year of the Bill self air where tc was in the conference, and I would have believed you.
Yeah, Kansas has only lost once down there since the initial game. The one of the loss was the most They've only lost twice down their period, and the one of the first loss was probably the most improbable of any of them, and the other one was during their national championship year. So only weird seasons do they lose in Fort Worth. So welcome back Landon glad to have
you back. Cam and I held down the fort and we were very mature, professional and did not say anything even remotely inappropriate in those last two shows.
And I know that podcast because you know, I absolutely locked the frick in for both of those episodes. You know, I listened to every singles second of that show. Don't quiz because I have a bad memory.
Yep, that's exactly what happened. Well, the good news is Landon is we're still gonna talk about a lot of the same stuff that we've talked about in the shows you miss, such as good Big twelve teams beat bad Big twelve Teams in uninteresting fashion, and Dan Hurley threw a fit DePaul lost. I'm just looking at Chris Beard choked. You know that's a little dark, but he's got a
history of choking. And Kansas plays a big game here this weekend against a maybe gonna talk about how they're overrated Houston team and that won't bite me the app or anything. This is inside the Paint on Rock Chalk Blog. I am Ryan Landrath, I am Landing Fields, and I'm Cam. So Cam is Cam? You got five candles currently lit in your Chicago apartment?
Uh?
Landon? Are you? What's your current state? Do you have a are you are you indulging in an adult beverage or are you got at TV on or what's your current setup. I'm trying to picture this. I have not seen None of the three of us have seen any of the others recording setups. So like, I'm trying to visualize this.
Okay, I'm sitting on my grandma's old orange chair that I got when she passed away a few years ago. So I'm sitting in that in the corner of my room with a dining room chair in front of me, which I have my computer and mic on, no TV. I finished a glass of water, So this is basically me raw dogging a podcast.
Wow, all right, that minimalism that would make CAM with your living room set up, which is a TV and a chair crown.
Yeah, I pretty much live in a Harry Potter closet. The only thing missing is I don't have drunk relatives living here. But I also live across from a dairy queen, so I'm always a constant threat of having a drunk driver drive through my living room. I have a chair, a table in w cream, soda that's diet, caffeine free, sugar free, all the chemicals and lies that America's built off of, a cup of tea, and the computer and five candles. Because I just blew up my back.
I can't follow that up. I see I am I should not be the most sophisticated on this show, but I have pictures of like my wedding and relatives and everything on the wall.
I'm a girl loved me once.
Yeah, well, I also the main item I'm looking at is in the back office. TV is a rep the Kansas TCU game, and things aren't going to well. Guys. It's twenty to six right now, according to the screen of your bill, self is mad. Oh yes, Cam did let me blow the airhorn and we'll get it started. I'm not seeing the picture cam scent where he's holding a microphone that he only turns on half the time
whenever you accidentally use your computer microphone. Then I hear all of the background microwave pushes and clinging and clanging of glasses and everything. So we'll see if it's actually on today, and we'll see if we're on our much like the much like the Jayhawks. After the first ten minutes, M nah, there, we got a good chance.
I'm gonna have to pee mid this section, so if you want, I can just pee on the pod and you guys can hear it and the listeners can know that that's happening.
Sure, audio No blanks, which I think Landon is in gives no blanks mode more than you've been in almost three hundred lifetime podcasts. CAM. You're getting close to moving into the top six for most appearances on Inside the Paint. Well, we'll make sure to let you know when you hit there. And I'm closing it on five hundred, which my five hundred, well is I am? I am? Like you want to talk about collision course. People have seen the Chiefs and the Bills like on a collision course for two months.
That is me eyeballing round of thirty two loss show with my five hundred coming right around the bend here. So yeah, you'll uh.
In this case, you are there, You're the Bills and round of thirty two loss. Five hundred is the Chiefs.
Hey, we'll see how good that take. Ages we are. We're gonna we're gonna pick that game and pick them here coming up. All right, let's try this again, Bay number twelve Kansas seventy four, TCU sixty one, which I can't believe that was the final score considering there are ten minutes that's in the first half in the replay
I have on and it is going very poorly. For the Jayhawks, but they ultimately gave an too last year's team by getting off to a complete and total I wanted to push ass, but it didn't ash there that their start was ass. They got off to a horrible
start in a conference road game. They trailed twenty six to twelve through eleven minutes, but all they did from that point forth was totally dominate the horn Frogs, as they got within two at halftime and then used a run midway through half number two to really build separation, leaving the game without any doubt down the stretch. The final result was a thirteen point road wind with plenty of talking points. Landon, If you're peeing, then Cam, you
can lead off and give me your thoughts. Otherwise, if Landon has already peed the time it took me to read that paragraph one of you tell me your thoughts on the Jayhawks pulling down another conference road up.
Just for the record, I have not peed yet, and I am at the mic. I'm just anticipating that will come momentarily. Cam, go ahead, Okay, Okay, yeah.
Overall, actually really impressive road win.
Uh. During the first half, I texted some very unkind things about the team I was also having a round.
I'm scrolling back to read some of them. Yeah, let's see, let's think it called there is a liability with a headband.
At one point, you.
Did I remember?
Okay? So so the game started at six mind you, and the first text is for me at six oh four pm, and it says why are they wearing white? And then Cam at six ten pm, which is ten raw minutes after the game starts, says they sucked. They sucked, They sucked, They sucked, they suck, and then let's see here at six sixteen, Cam says they could still come back and win, but good god. And then at six eighteen, Cam says I would eat cat poop before taking the
KU money line live. And then let's see Landon, who was not watching live. At six twenty three says are they going to lose again? And Cam says probably, but Ryan will disagree. They legitimately suck. They have ten points in the first nine minutes, and I said, then I rationally come in and say, Cam, there's thirty two minutes left and it is worth noting. Cam said they legitimately suck at six twenty four, and I said, at six thirty one, they're within three, so things did quite quickly there, Cam.
Those text are great. It's like Daniel Cunningham's ghost is here with me and never left.
Oh.
I mean, in my defense, the first like ten minutes of that game might have been the worst basketball they've played off seasons.
Oh they're bad, but yeah it was real bad.
Oh No, impressive win, probably one of the best ones of the year. That's my full in depth analysis because I don't think I have the right to talk.
That is amazing, just an amazing arc. Cam's arc. CAM. Some people have an ARC over the course of like entire TV series or entire careers. CAM has an arc like every every week, every week.
Any time out, CAM goes through a small like small character update.
Yeah, either holding on every possession or you are just yeah, it's it's pretty good. And yes, that split is the movie you're thinking of. That's a hilarious comparison.
Don't worry. I don't have women in my basement. I actually don't have a basement.
So this show is either our best or worst of the year. You'd be the g.
So buckle frick up.
Landing your thoughts on Kansas beating TCU.
I thought Kansas. At the beginning of the game took U took a dump worthy of three candles, really, and then I think TCU took a solid five candle and the rest of the game it was. It was the most paint by numbers game you've ever seen. I was not really like the thing I said before the airhorn
really is true. Like if you told me that KU started slow in Fort Worth and route to TCU crapping the bed the rest of the game and Kansas making enough shots to win by by ten or so, I'm like, yep, I can't tell you what game that is because they've done that twelve times. That is really really what this felt like for the most part.
And the end result you'd think, wow. I mean, they outscored TCU sixty two to thirty five, that is plus twenty eight over the last twenty nine minutes of the night. They got into a groove where they figured out that the two big guys were completely unstoppable, and once they actually started passing them the ball, things went well. Kansas is ten and two now in Fort Worth. They've won
ten to the last eleven times down there. The loss was arguably the low point of itp in the last ten years when they lost in the eventual national champion season because Bill self was like, you know what, Remy's gonna play ten minutes, Mitch, go get them even though we're losing, and Landon gave up. Nick gave up. I was yelling, And all they did was win the last fourteen to end that season after that, So yeah, the
only only weird seasons do they lose down there. But the end result will show you it was a win that they really didn't sweat out much down the stretch, and they played a really nice second half to win their fifth conference game in seven tries. All things considered, Landon you said, I remember after the West Virginia loss that you would slam your hand on the button if you could take six and three through their first nine
conference games. Well, they're five and two and their next two are at home, so you would think they have a better chance, of a decent chance to be even better than that. Has this team in the last few weeks begin to win you back over a little bit.
A little a little they have, They've won some games, you know that would make you think that maybe they're a little better than they looked for that stretch. I mean, in KU, losing like three out of four is not an unhear thing, right, it was three out of five? I can't remember. And then obviously I was state lost in there too that I missed, but maybe like maybe, yeah, they I think they are certainly better than last year. I think that's obvious. That was a talking point that
we've had for a lot. I don't know I was lying about listening to every second if you couldn't tell, I now listen to the last two episodes, So maybe you guys covered that. But this, I do think this team is better than last year's team. I think this team is genuinely pretty solid. If they still have some some really deep shortcomings. I think wins like this really show like that they are a good team. But it
still wasn't super flashy. I still think all the weaknesses were very very much there on paper for everyone to see. We'll see. Yeah, I think they have a very good chance to be seven and two in conference play. That's that's really solid. I don't know how much it's super gonna matter, because I think I was to it's gonna win the league, but you know, we'll see. I I do have more confidence in this team that I had after the West Virginia game, though, that's for sure.
Do you guys listen to the episodes that you're not on Land and I did? Like did you used to?
And now don't actually do?
I knew you did. It's a new guy thing like the earlier in your tenure, the much more you care, I'm assuming Land and you used to, well, you used to never miss shows.
I used to listen to most. If I missed a show, I almost always would listen to it back in the day. Yeah anymore, Sorry.
That's okay, that's what That's what we have, that the hundreds of thousands of people to listen, So we don't need our host to listen to these numbers.
Uh.
But we do have to talk about AJ Store because if Kansas is starting to win Land and Over a little bit, one would think that AJ Stores maybe little the development that's that we're starting to see. Maybe that's a good reason why Cam tell me about the Wisconsin transfer. Who I for for my mind and for his he said this too, played his best game of the season.
Yeah, Agy Store looked pretty solid last night. Bill Seff's patience with him might actually be paying off. He had twelve points on six out of six or tent shooting. He had six rebounds and three stills in twenty two minutes. He's by far, kids, this is best bench player by a wide margin. Ten of his twelve points came after halftime. What do you guys make of is arguably his best performance as Jayhawk.
I'll throw it to Landon for analysis. I just want to say one thing first, and that is we've seen Bill self in the past give up on players a little earlier than we think that they should, or that he should. He cuts his rotation to seven to eight guys, and that's that we saw. Injuries and a bunch of weird stuff have to happen to get Remy Martin any sort of a chance at the end of the season. I'm glad that he continued to put Store in the game. He would be in the last handful of nights. He
was his first sub in the second half. I know a little bit of it as he's having to because his bench is shorter without kJ, but it is nice that he continued to try. You can tell self grasps how important aj Store is if Kansas is gonna hit their ceiling. I think he knows that even if his role is different than what we thought it would be at the start of the year, and his patience landon I think was rewarded. Store looks like he's starting to get his feet wet a little bit with his system.
Yeah, and this was a good performance, though, I would say I think the first half. If you just took the first half on its own, I think you would say, up, yep, there he is again. I guess the second half was solid, mostly based on hustle, I think more than anything else. To be quite honest, I think aj Store's effort and defense put him in really good spots and he capitalized on those. He did make a couple of shots. He did have that nice baseline drive in the first half
to get the layup. So he did do things well and this was a solid game from him. I would love to see more of this to have faith in it, and it does seem like maybe he is turning a little bit of a corner. You hope we'll see six or ten. Shooting is great. That's a really encouraging thing that he actually got a lot of shot to go and that he took a lot of shots and scored twelve, the three steals, six rebounds like it's a nice allowing
from Store. For sure, I do want to see more of it to know that he's actually turning a corner. But one can hope.
Cam. You were pretty adamant that if Kansas wants to taste any sort of success that's better than what they've had the last couple of years and the NCAA Tournament, they're gonna have to utilize Store, both for his offense and for his athleticism. That second half had to give you a lot of hope that maybe, just maybe that the diapers are coming off. To quote Dick for Meal from a few.
Years ago, Yeah, he looked a lot more comfortable in this game. Partially, I think he might realize that he's going to get more minutes no matter what at this point with kJ Adams out, But he just looked more on the flow of the offense, more confident. Yeah. I mean, I think for Kansas to really have a deeper run in the NCAA Tournament, the rotations are going to have to balance out a little bit more and you'll need more of aj Store Ryland Griffin playing. Whether that'll happen
or not, I don't know. A lot of this is due to the fact that kJ Adams is hurt and kJ Adams has a role on the team too. We've talked about that a lot, but yeah, I mean, it's definitely a good sign for for a j store.
Also a good sign for Kansas that they are better than last year, which I think we have really put that argument to bed after the last couple of weeks. They're winning on the road. This team went too and seven on the road and conference play last year. They won just two road games. One was at Oklahoma State, who was the worst team in the conference, and the other one was at Oklahoma who we know that Porter Moser that the Jayhawks were eight. Yeah, there you go.
I was gonna make an analogy, but yeah, Porter Moser sucks. So no surprise. Kansas has now won three of their four road games and conference played this year. All of them have been by double digits. And I know that TCU, UCF and Cincinnati is not a murderers row by any stretch, and they were hammered pretty good in the one game that they played against the top twenty five road team.
But it's got to be an encouraging sign. But I think when you look at the timeline, Kansas was seventeen and three last year on the day Kevin McCuller got hurt. It was the home game again Cincinnati. That was right around this time last year. It was like January twenty second or something like that. That team really started to stall after that. They were five hundred the rest of the way. They were starting to hit a wall and
had already reached their ceiling. This team, at the same point in the season, we are now seeing this team start to take strides. We already think that they're better than last year's team, and there's still plenty of season left. I think that that really goes to show that they are a much better squad. And Bill Sealth teams, at least the best ones have always really started to get
moving come this time of year. This is around the point in the season where they need to show you something that they're going to separate and be a good team. They have done that this year, and it's been good to see Land and tell me about the bigs. Maybe part of the reason that we're seeing the offense get better so much quickly, or so much quicker than we've expected to is because one of the most versatile pieces is now getting to play.
Yeah, Florie Badunga was really really nice. In twenty five minutes. He put up ten points, ten rebounds, four blocks. All scoring came in the first half, and then once Hunter Dickinson got going, the two work together to dominate on the glass. Hunter Dickinson led Kansas with sixteen points, adding nine rebounds of his own four assists in thirty three minutes. Hunter and Flory working mine eleven of fifteen from the floor.
I really like that pairing, and I think Kansas has played very very well when those guys are both on the floor.
So you haven't been on the show. Cam and I have talked about this plenty since kJ adams injury, and is the offense better, is the defense worse? All of those things. Kansas has now scored eighty four and seventy four points in the two games in conference play that kJ Adams hasn't played. What do you make of this offense without kJ? Are they Some people think that they're better with kJ off the team entirely. Others think that they are just dying to get kJ back, to get
back into the swing of things. Where do you fall in in that conversation.
I think it's somewhere in the middle. I mean, Kansas went from I think number forty five and Ken Palm prior to kJ getting hurt to like thirty second in offense on Ken pom So. I mean, there's definitely a correlation between the two. There's also probably a correlation between the fact that two teams they played sucked since he's been out. But no, kJ Adams has a role on the team. They're way, way worse defensively without him out there. But I'm just gonna say this now because this is
in the notes. Later, fran for Scilla made possibly the dumbest statement I've ever seen or ever heard an analyst make on air last night. Frien at one point said, you know, I watch a lot of Kansas basketball, and guys Dwan Harris and kJ Adams they're not scores. You know, They're not gonna put up points when you ask them to put up a lot of points. That's not their
main role. But they're great basketball players. I was like, you know what, friend, thanks for making millions of dollars for saying something that three idiots on a podcast have been saying for the last three years.
But anyway, one third.
Of the idiots.
Yeah, and I'm probably the rest of the thirds, honestly, and they read the third's land It's fine.
I will take that.
I don't know.
I don't like I don't like how we're just giving Landon immunity because he missed a couple of mutes. Though we all have to share the idiot badges at some point on this show. I run the Twitter account, so I'll.
Take finishing last and pick them all year. So that's my that's that has taken all my everything else that isn't land I don't know how that's.
I mean, hmmm mmmmmmm. Essentially, Frank Pacilla was saying that something that was very obvious. I translated it poorly and a led to terrible audio for the show. You're welcome America.
Uh uh. We've gone back in some some old text threads with Nick and Landon is really good at making like four or five years down the line predictions about society. And for some reason, you can't predict basketball games that are like next Tuesday. I don't get it. You think you could win a Pick Them crown eventually, Landon, you gotta like, that's why this drop exists because you just gotta lay it in, buddy.
Well, one could argue that Cincinnati, Arizona State is more predictable than the unfortunate state of America these days, but that's a different part for different.
That's so speaking of Frank Francilla and kJ Adams, uh I liked how like the first thing Franz said once the game started is uh I talked to Bill's self and he said that.
The only thing that.
Kj's he's not gonna play tonight, but he's gonna miss a couple of games. Yeah, idiot, we all know what myself and my Bill self basketball camp shirt. I don't know, man. I don't want to be next. I don't really want.
To be firm like the Famili's back together. The only thing missing is that Grandpa's not gonna hurl and racially charged comment from across the table while passing the mashed potatoes.
I'll steer us back on course with a fiery and I told you so ram not at YouTube. But let me just tell you something. Over the last two years, and I know you guys believe me because I complain about this to you, I have seen so many stupid, ass idiotic they shouldn't have essentially traded Ernest oday to get two years of Hunter Dickenson tweets I've read that tweeted at me. Every time Hunter Dickinson doesn't score sixty points in a basketball game, people are like, what they
had Earnest? Damn it, Bill, why do you get rid of Ernest? Hutter sucks? And in the two TCU Kansas games since that, since they they basically gave up on Ernest to day, they get Hunter Dickinson. Hunter has forty one points and twenty rebounds and a game winner in those two games, and Ernest has nine and ten. Can
we please forever be done with that? And can like even if you wanted Ernest du day, which I agree, Ernest today would be better by now if he had stayed at Kansas and he had a lot of ability, But you got Florrie Badunga, who I think we can admit is better as a freshman than Ernest today will be as a senior. Like they got the bit like
how can that be a take? How are there people with eyes that watch this sport and watch Hunter Dickinson and see what he puts up and say, wow, I wish they had Ernest and his six and four average, Like, I don't get how that's a take, and I don't get how that could ever be a take.
And Hunter Dickinson is white, which theoretically should appeal to the people who are complaining about something like that.
Oh man, I told you Landon is and don't give a single load. And that's where that everybody's head's going to be on a spike. You don't know that he's gonna hit your your spike, but you just have to be prepared that it's a possibility. So I'm gonna watch it. I say, Okay, here, here's a conversation topic. The three point shooting. They're now at twenty nine points seven percent and Big twelve play through seven games. Is that a problem? Uh?
Yeah, seems that way as much as right now Alan Griffin do accuracy practice and hit the far side of the rim each time he shoots. Isn't great.
Yeah, this is the worst three point shooting team in conference play that self has had. Granted it's only been seven games, and last year's team definitely was determined to make it a record that was hard to top for future Kansas teams, but right now, specifically in conference play, Uh, yeah, Kansas is the twelfth best, which somehow twenty nine point five percent is only the twelfth best in this conference.
There are somehow four teams worse than that, and I was gonna say, yeah, it's it's got it and and freaking Kansas State they cannot do anything that I would guess. They're in there too, but like you know, they're They're also the best three point defense through seven games at twenty five point eight percent, so nothing's coming from behind the arc in Kansas games. I think they're gonna have to be better than that if they want to be Houston on Saturday.
Though I agree, Yeah, I also think to have any chance in an NCAA tournament run, that's gonna have to change.
Well, But canon like Ryland Ryland Griffin is is a good shooter. He's been inconsistent, but we at least think that can happen. Zeke Mayo is an excellent shooter. AJ Store one Harris has declined tremendously as a three point shooter. Hunter Dickinson was a thirty five percent shooter in his three years at Michigan, and he cannot make anything since the first he started, like seven for seven or something. Like that last year. I'm not even sure he's shooting
twenty percent. Since they don't have anybody else, I think Harris is the problem here. Harris is the guy that when he's making threes, it doesn't feel like the offense has a lack of three point makes. They don't have a pluthora of shooters, but they don't have an absence of them. Having a point guard that can't make threes really really blows because he was better at that for about three years and now in the last year or two, I think he's under twenty five percent since conference play
started last year. Would help if they had a second point guard in Shack Moore who could make threes, because he did score eleven points and went three for four from three in twenty four minutes, and he was better than Harris in that game. Yeah, and Harris didn't play well. Harris was won for six and he had seven assists, but he had five turnovers. Like hey, Gerris looked like
he was point shaving in that first few minutes. It was like he had an open big guy and he was intentionally a couple of times fire in the thing crossed court to a guard that had two horn frogs in between him. And I was listening to this game on the radio broadcast, and you know, you obviously always use adjectives, and I hear Greg Gurley talking about defenders, and you know, whenever they're talking about like, oh, there's
two wildcats there, you're kind of used to that. But there's something about hearing Greg Gurley say, man, he threw that right into two frogs, and I'm just like, wow, that just doesn't sound quite as intimidating hearing the radio guys talk about the opposition being frogs. Is horn Frog's the worst name in the Big twelve?
Mmm?
No, I don't think it can be, But I also don't know what's apparently worse. Wildcats is just really boring.
Sun Devil's Rocks love that name.
Utes is kind of well, I guess yeah.
You You and Jayhawks are kind of the same, Like they wouldn't make sense to just anybody else, but they're they're a local thing.
Uh.
And Cyclones is good too, Like I think cyclones is a good name.
I love learning maybe the jack Hawk tribe in school.
I'm telling you, you're you never know who's gonna be on one of those spikes. But you know, who's gonna slam it down.
Hey, Hey, I gotta, I gotta. I got a cousin that works at Utah University. She's very nice. She showed us around their art museum. It's cool. Go utes.
Kansas will be there soon and I'm sure she'll be quite happy because of their team can make threes and well, it'll swing back eventually. My only take on the point guards is self keep saying Harris needs to play less, and then he plays them thirty five minutes every night, like seriously, every pregame interview with at the aforementioned Greg Gurley, selfs like, I gotta find ways to play one twenty
six minutes a game. He can't play thirty five, and then he plays thirty five every game like like it's gotta stuck shack More. I'm at the point where I want to see Harris on the bench for an extended stretch and Shackmore run the offense just to see what it looks like. Yeah, because Wow, Shaq Moore just takes
over games in ways that Harris doesn't like. When Shaq made a three and then the next possession he he gets the the the out of leaps out of the air, steel, turn coast to coast, dunk like, he can just take over games. He is a perfect Kansas player.
Bill self is a slave to his own trust.
He is, and I feel Harris Adams are his boys. Shaq Moore can, he can pretty much do everything Dewan Harris can, but he has more capabilities on offense. Sorry to say it, I mean, has Dewan Harris improved since two years ago? People say kJ Adams hasn't gotten better. He's definitely better than.
Yeah, he probably just as much.
I don't know, Like the guy's played like one hundred and thirty some games here and he just the other day hit a thousand points.
He's serviceable. He's a good player, but he's I don't know. It's a hard one to answer.
High iq, great at defense, great ball handler, sweet passer. But I think you're seeing that you can be an eight out of ten and everything but scoring the ball, and when you're put on a team that really could benefit from having a scoring point guard. I don't know, And I don't want to take a dump on Harris or anything, because he's given the university so much. He's
a national champion. He started on a national championship team, and he's won a lot of basketball games here, but I kind of wonder if we're gonna watch point guard Darren Peterson scored twenty three points in his first game next year while also proving that he can dish out six assists. Right right now, people are like, Harris may have only scored six points, but he got seven assists. Yeah, but there's it's also allowed for your point guard to
get seven assists while scoring plenty two. And I don't know, I just that yeah, kind of kind of kind of think that the point guard might be, Uh, the point guard isn't the liability with this team, but having a point guard that can score would sure elevate their ceiling quite a bit.
Yeah. We talked about this in previous seasons on the show where we were debating like has Dowan Harris regressed? And I think the answer then is very similar to the answer now. And then I made the case Nodwan Harris is not worse and has not regressed. It is that he has not developed, and thus it feels like he's regressing because he You're expecting him to be somewhere else when he's in the same place that he was. I think when you.
Say developed, though, like, how what if he has developed? I kind of think he has. He's just at his ceiling.
I no, I think, and I think that's exactly the thing. I think he has improved, certainly. I think he has developed. I think he just kind of has maxed himself out. I just think the rate of development and where a player like that you would expect to be based on where a lot of players have ended up under Bill self, Dwan Harris is in a lot of ways, he's behind.
That, and you know he's He's won a lot of games and he's Yes, definitely, I'm curious what it looks like next year. Whenever they have a point guard that is a dynamite scorer, they have a score first point guard next year after the last time they had a score first point guard was senior Frank Mason. As good of a scorer as de Vante Graham was. I still think he was more of a pass first, natural passer
before and the shooting developed. Frank Mason was the last time they had a point guard that a one was scoring the basketball and he won National Player of the Year. So well, we'll see what that looks like now. I didn't watch the broadcast because I listened on the radio, so Cam, I was gonna ask you here, how did Fran do? And I'm assuming he did bad.
I mean, he's friend, he's just he's always going to give credit to the refs. Yeah, they'll miss a few, but they're good at their jobs. And he just said that thing, just basically analyzing that Dwan, Harrison and kJ Adams aren't scores, but they're good players. So thanks for that, Friand oh hey.
By the way, yeah, the refs sucked based on one call and that was that stupid ass double technical where I saw that on TV and.
Thought there's no way that that's a technical. They stopped the game. Look at me, look at me on the RAF, I have a stripe jersey whatever, and I'm thinking this is it definitely just and they did yep. I'm thinking this,
that's just a warning. That has to be warning, and instead they give out not one, but two technicals when I don't think Hunter Dickinson did anything but not let go of the ball, and like four different frogs to make Greg Gurley proud came running in there and like jumped on it, like I don't I don't know you guys saw it. How how was that double technicals? How was that not? Just play on?
Oh I hear, yeah, welcome to the show. I think it's oh man.
This is this is the worst show. I think their answer it might be the worst and it might be Landon's fault because Cam and I were were cooking with gas for two straight episodes. We didn't make a single mistake.
Oh man, I don't even remember what the question was, something about the call it was a double technical because Hunter Dickinson has a reputation and I just.
He was not horrendous. He was good. I guess let's just get this over with. Going six for nine from the floor, he had thirteen points thirty two minutes.
Ya.
Ryland Griffin did get twenty minutes, but he missed all of his threes besides one. He was one for six for four points. Ryland Griffin having a good game and a bad game is the difference between Kansas getting into the eighties and not getting into the eighties. On a night when everyone else plays well, Flory Zeke, Shaq, Hunter Aj, they all played well, Kansas finished at seventy four points
because Ryland Griffin only had four. Ryland Griffin is the answer for their offensive ceiling going to the moon, and he hasn't gone to the moon yet, so that's why they're barely top thirty five on Ken Palm. David coy added five points and made his second three pointers since the North Carolina State game. He played just nine to If I learned one thing, if I learned this thing, one thing from that hodgepodge of sentences, it's that Bill self is playing aj and Ryland twice as much as
he's playing David Koyite. He gets it. He's he's he's picked up on how the first few conference games have gone.
Yes, yeah, to summon all up here we have Kansas fifty six percent from the floor, thirty five percent from three to eighty percent from the free throw line, plus two in the glass. All four numbers were ghastly early on and got much better than I progress. They all said seventeen turnovers, which was a more problem in the first half.
Not concerned about the turnovers until it happens all the time, Like this is what TCU does. They forced turnovers. That's been Jamie Dixon's mo for a long time. Play fast forced turnovers, and you know they cleaned it up when they had to. Definitely not thinking turnovers are going to be too big of a problem. Much more concerned about the three point shooting and the offense's tendency to go stale being a problem more than I am anything else.
What are your final thoughts on this game. It feels like that they didn't play well enough to win by thirteen points on the road, and look, I know TCU isn't gonna win six NCAA games this year, but they did just beat Baylor and Laco, Like even the mid tier Big Twelve teams are not cupcakes on the road, and I think Kansas should feel pretty good, especially after
West Virginia. If you would have been told they were going to be five and two through seven conference games, especially after starting going to one, I think you would be pretty happy with that. All things considered, they're in a pretty good place. And I think they're one of the three best teams in the Big Twelve, which I mean I know that the I know that the preseason one,
so it feels weird to say that. But if you were told at the beginning of the year they're a top three Big twelve team, I think you'd be pretty happy with that.
What say you, guys, Yeah, I think not everyone can be the prettiest thing. Sometimes you gotta grid them ount and if you're gritting your way to a thirteen point road win, you could do a lot worse. It was. It was a very solid.
Especially when you're plus twenty seven in the last thirty minutes.
Yeah. Yeah, and they were. They were very very good after a bad start, really flipped on a dime TCU. You know, they battled around for a minute, but KU was clearly far better for three quarters of the game. And score reflects that. And hey, in this conference, when you go on the road, you'll take it. And Kansas is starting to win consistently on the road again, and that's that's a really nice development.
Like last year's team gets down by fourteen early and it was Curtains didn't even make half those games close when they fall behind fourteen through the first ten minutes. So last year's team doesn't win this game, I don't think. And not only did this year's team win it, but they want it going away too. Cam. What are your closing thoughts?
Yeah, really impressive win. Great sign to see them come back from an early deficit. Doesn't have to be pretty old time. I think that is a theme for this team and overall, really good win.
All right, well, if Kansas had a really good win, surely we can have a really good second half of the podcast. I'm sure it'll get better when we start talking about these Big twelve games. Let's give it a push, h Big twelve games. Landa and I know that you missed the last show, but Cam and I actually had to call an audible. You'll be very amazed at our problem solving skills. You see, we started to record this segment when a Big twelve game was still in prodiens,
so our brain. We put our heads together and realize, what if we started with other games and then did Big twelve games so the Big twelve game was over. We managed to come up with that all by ourselves, and it works.
I'm really proud.
Of Smell Red.
Okay, here's an ask RCB that I'm just curious about which Big twelve coach do you believe smells the worst.
I don't. I don't know.
What because I'm looking at Jamie Dick.
There is.
There is just no way that Jamie Dixon's hair doesn't smell like quest smell.
You can imagine, Oh my gosh, dude, I just missed Bob.
Yeah, that's obviously the answer. I don't know. Scott Drew kind of smells like used car salesman. It looks like right, so.
Smell great.
Oh yeah, And all the passengers on that Southwest flat flight found.
That out, like you're all on a south Last flight.
Tommy Lloyd looks like he smells like cooking oil.
Well, I don't know how their coaches smell, but I know Texas Tech they don't stink. They're actually pretty pretty impressive here. Texas Tech eighty one, Cincinnati seventy one. It was a great win for the Red Raiders. They were probably the big winner in the conference this week, who are a blown lead versus Iowa State away from being a very real contenter to win the league. Right now.
JT toppin most Improved Big twelve Player of the Year candidate has twenty points and Christian Anderson at at eighteen twelve threes for the Red Raiders. And right whenever we kind of thought Cincinnati was starting to climb their way back, they cannot get out of their own way. They keep losing home games and they're probably out of the tournament, which is a sad scene for a preseason top twenty five team. Buy or sell. Texas Tech finishes top five in the Big twelve.
Bye yeah bye.
I'm still in not hoping that Baylor figures their their thing out. I think it's Baylor and Tech at five and six. It'll remain to be seen if they do. Someone who will definitely not be even though they won this game. Arizona State sixty five, number twenty three, West Virginia fifty seven, Landon. This is what you meant whenever you tabbed them as the preseason biggest surprise in the conference.
Yeah. I will claim that this is the inevitable home upset loss and he was coming for the Mountaineers. Arizona States defense held West Virginia to just thirty one percent from the floor and the sun Devils were plus eighteen on the glass. Hey, my surprise pick. They at least did do something, and at least it wasn't beat Kansas.
And in true land and fashion with a one time that you get one of these preseason picks right on the screws, it still costs you a pick them point.
Yeah, that is true. I mean that is that is my lot in life, I am sisiphus destined to roll the rock up the hill, only for it to roll back down every single time.
Well, I mean when it comes to pick them. Yes, this is the rock and this is landed. Well, if the sound effects would freaking there, you already knew it. There's about five to make up for it. Geez. Number three Iowa State one hundred and eight. Holy god, UCF eighty three CAM. That's a lot of points.
Yeah, in a game that no one cares about, including everyone listening to this podcast. Thirty points for Joshua Jefferson. Iowa State appears to be pretty good. They had forty baskets. They are playing a different sport than Kansas. Shout out to Bill self. You s have stream four in Big twelve play and they are minus seventy four in point differential, which, according to my mathematical analysis is ass.
That's yes, it correct. I always scoring to cams analysis ass.
Iowa State made more baskets than Utah scored points.
Oh my, oh, there's some stats on Utah coming up. There are some Utah stats coming up here, So we'll get this. These two awful games out of the way. Arizona ninety two Oklahoma State seventy eight. Good team beats bad team twenty seven for Caleb love b Yu eighty three, Colorado is sixty seven. Bad team beats really bad team. Colorado is oh and seven. Richie Saunders for the Cougars twenty five points. He made three threes. Trevin Nell added
four provo. So we have a drop on this show and it goes like this, Yeah, yeah, this is a very sad, sad loss. And that is Kansas's experience in provo coming right up, because they are going to get well, we haven't pushed this in a while, but they are going to get to death. Okay, Now let's talk about Utah, Land and Holy goodness number seven. Houston seventy, Utah thirty six.
Oh my, this does fall into category A of good team beats bad team. True, true Houston being the good team, Utah being a really bad one. But okay, so here's the thing. This is something that I like this. You know, this has been well documented this year our time on the podcast. It has been like we talk about teams that turn the ball over as much as they score, you know, as many turns baskets. Sometimes you can see teams that have a couple more turnovers than baskets, and
that's deeply sad and embarrassing for those schools. But what Utah did on January twenty second, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, this is something that we have not seen in our time watching college basketball. The Utah Utes had thirteen baskets and twice as many turnovers. They had twenty six turnovers to thirteen made baskets. That, according to my mathematical analysis, is bad.
I've never seen that. I've never seen, never seen that thirteen baskets and that's unbelievable. Like we said, Utah was the worst, and Houston is defensively as good as it gets. But I mean, my goodness, my take on Houston, they're really good. They're seven and oh they're the only undefeated team in the conference. But they've they're seven big, twelve wins. They haven't played Iowa State yet, they haven't played Texas Tech yet, they haven't played Kansas yet. I don't think
they've played Baylor yet. Like, we'll see, we'll see how good Houston is when they get a little deeper into the schedule. They've had a pretty soft for seven, but certainly you will anybody to thirty six, and your defense is a force to reckon with. Also, I think that the tapeak of YMCA may have beat Utah on this night, because God, that wasn't even close. Maybe one team Utah
would have beat Baylor seventy Kansas State sixty two. So the notes just have a picture that Ku tweets and news posted and it is a picture of Jerome Tang looking tough, and it just says one word, and that word is because Jerome Tang is and yes, it definitely is.
Cam I Cam. I think that you know, I'll go ahead and let we all need to really savor these because there's just simply not going to be very many Jerome Tang Kansas State recaps left for all of our ITP futures, and so I think we should savor each one because that man is his his grass. Come March twelfth or whatever the end of season is for k State, Easter Bunny or Malsano.
Yeah, drum times sucks. They led by nine halfway through the second half. Here they totally choked. They now have lost thirteen straight road games.
VJ.
Edge Comb dropped thirty points, and he is way cooler than anybody in Waco, Texas deserves. Scott Drew finally beat Drume Tang on.
His fourth comb.
What'd you say?
I said, what did VJ do to that comb?
Mmm? I get it.
It was edged twelve Standings?
Mmm.
I think there was a I think that either it was over text or on the show where Nick straight out asked what's edging? Like? He didn't he he saw it on Twitter and I was just like, oh, okay, oh well, I can tell you this. In the middle of this, Kansas loses to Oklahoma State recap if you want, or you can google it because Google has the answer to everything. And that's what I plan to tell my children one day when they asked me a question. I don't feel like answering, son, just type it into Google.
Let me know what pops up if you typed in big twelve Standings into Google, assuming the AI doesn't screw it up. Speaking of the AI, so Zach Clemens recently celebrated his birthday and he wears number forty one, and he's wearing his jersey in the picture k you posted, and the AI little automated robot underneath it said, fans are commenting that we're wishing congratulations to Zach Clemens for
his forty first birthday. It's like, I know he's been at Kansas for a while, but you know, it turns out AI does not have all the answers, but they would probably get over who leads the Big who leads the Big twelve? Yeah, and somebody else said we need Zach Clemens to get healthy and back on the court. That's and I was like, Okay, I think some people should go to the eye doctor this week. Let's set our calendars to make an appointment, because I don't know if we need that Big twelve standard.
Ryan, I don't understand. Hunter Dickinson sucks. He doesn't have any heart in program, unlike guys like Zach Clements, who will dive on the floor after missing their own airball.
Not wrong.
And then and then Hunter actually does show fight by not letting that he's not He doesn't let go of the ball, and and Bill self's like, I I just thought that was ridiculous. Hey, jerk face, you're supposed to love that sort of stuff. You're supposed to love when your guys get fired up and show their competitiveness. I hope Hunter looked right at Bill self, and in his finest Southern accent, went, coach, you're soft, because that's what Bill self deserves after that kind of stupid statement.
Not to not to segue out of this, but here's your fact that they speaking of being soft. And ancient Egypt, impotence was considered to be a two types, a natural cause where a man was incapable of accomplishing the sex act, and to have a supernatural element such that evil charms and spells could cause impotence.
Wow, so if you couldn't, if you struggled from from you basically were just you were a superhero or a super double.
You were well, you were just a soft loser, or you had some superpowers from the beyond.
Hey. So I'm not saying that causation and correlation are the same. But if I did a chart that showed the quality of itp before Cam's Fact of the day was an A, and then I put next to it another colored line that says the quality of the show after Cam brought us the fact of the day, then you would notice it looks kind of like Bill self before and after everybody could pay players.
Hey, anybody, remember guys, it's all fun and games until the condors come.
Big twelve standings. Houston is seven and oh yay.
Iowa State Arizona are six and one.
Number four, Kansas, Texas Tech five and two. West Virginia and Baylor are four and three. We're now to the point where there's so many teams and they all have so many different records that this segment goes on far too long.
The abbreviations and Utah are three and four. That's UCFTCU B YU.
I like that Cincinnati, Oklahoma State in Arizona State two and five, twelve.
All by themselves way down there, and fifteenth place is bitches that Jerome Tang, Jerome Tang, he's one and six, not.
To be outdone. Is the worst team in several years in the Big twelve. Colorado in last varro oh and seven.
You know, some may say that the signs were on the wall there when they lost by like forty to Iowa State, that they weren't going to be very good. But I don't think people thought Colorado would be oh to seven bad.
They are dreadful, yeah, and like Iowa State's a good team. Like, yeah, this is a really bad loss, but it's not unreasonable to get blown out by a good team, But yeah, they are really really atrocious other games.
The biggest upset in the sport this week happened in West Lafayette, where Ohio State flipped a thirteen point halftime deficit. Really rough week for Ohio State athletics. Glad the basketball team could make them happy. I guess they roared past number eleven, produced seventy three to seventy behind twenty two points from Micah Parrish. Tom Izzo's number eight Michigan State Spartans have the week off. They haven't lost in a long time. They look to be the favorite in the league.
After starting seven to zero.
Business as usual in the SEC is at number four Alabama, but one hundred and three on Vanderbilt. Sixth Tennessee slogged out to a sixty eight to fifty six win over fourteen Mississippi State and number five Florida beat South Carolina by a single point on the road. Thirteen Texas A and M got Wayde Taylor back and they squeaked out a sixty three to sixty two wild one at all miss Not like a Chris team. Chris Beard team to fail to take the last punch.
You're even reading the shows.
That's not all I know. Oh Man. Also, Texas pulled away late to be number twenty two. Missouri, who was ranked for the first time since the last week of twenty twenty two at large Tigers. Is that a thing?
Uh? Probably because bias the real Noah, they're fourteen and four. They have the same record Kansas does. Like there, we'll see, you know what we'll see. Gary Parrish was on one of the local radio stations here and he said, if Missouri goes par the rest of the way, they win the games that their favor to win, they lose the games they're not favored to win, they'll be in I've seen Missouri chumping you away, So we'll we'll see. We'll see what happens. A lot of it depends on the
rest of the conference. Also this week in college basketball or in the SEC, I believe South Carolina, Ole, Miss and Georgia combined to lead their three games for one hundred and nineteen and a half minutes and they went zero and three. Because there were a lot of buzzer beaters in the SEC, John Caliperi's Arkansas team was responsible for one of those that can pop some champagne because they finally got an SEC win, beating Georgia at home
on a last second shot. Boogie Flann and his fifteen points per game are out for the year following hand surgery, so great. Things probably aren't getting better in Fayetteville, but they had a good night and they'll almost definitely be on a winning streak because their next opponent is poor Moser who's coming into town and he doesn't win road games. So congrats on two in a row.
Cal Ryan. What did Dan Hurley say to that ref? I didn't see Cam?
Did you see this?
You did?
Did Cam? Did you see it?
I did? He he walked away like the ref was walking away from him, and he, you know, ran after him and said, don't don't walk away from me. I'm the best coach in the effing sport.
YEP. So that's that's what Dan Hurley said to our rep this way, I feel like that could be a weekly second.
In normal What did Dan say?
And especially with this picture of him in the notes where he looks so happy and enthused to go about his job.
He's a normal guy. He says normal things, he thinks normal things.
He's very hard I understand, I understand he wins a lot. I understand he's a very good basketball coach, and I'm not even gonna try to act like I know how the brains of eighteen year olds work, and I know money's involved, but I genuinely do not understand how an eighteen year old high schooler can look at Dan Hurley and say, I want to play for that guy. He seems fun.
I agree, I don't get any.
Kentucky and the Lakers dodge bullets, and this is going to blow up at some point.
Also agree, don't look now, but number twenty five Louisville is not only ranked, they also might be a wagon. The Cardinals have won nine in a row. They're eight and one in acc play to stay within one of Duke. They absolutely obliterated SMU by twenty five on the road this week. Is Pat Kelsey coach of the year?
Yeah? Probably it's him and Bruce Pearl and Alzburger right now? Probably right, those are the three that come to mind.
Yeah, sure, or Tom gets Kelsey there, Nope?
Yeah that like? And how about this? Did DePaul win? They did? Congratulations the Paul, You're off the schneide. The streak is over. De Paul won at Georgetown on Friday seventy three to sixty eight for their first conference victory since January eighteenth of twenty twenty three. If you want to remember what you were doing that day, but camp. That was the day after Jalen Wilson put thirty eight on K State and K you still lost a his coach Eiston if if you're curious how long ago that was.
To follow up that win, thirty seven hundred of Chicago's finest fans welcomed them back home, but were rewarded with a twenty four point home lost to Creighton, where the Blue Demons failed to reach the fifty point mark. That's the official drop of Chicago. Here on the inside the Paint podcast cam. You should suit up for DePaul.
Dohaor not.
I thought that would go further than it did. But sure ranked teams the losings last show number eleven Perdue not a stranger to losing as a highly ranked team. They lost to the Buckeyes.
Number fourteen Mississippi State, They lost to Tennessee.
Number sixteen Ole miss lost to Texas A and.
M Number seventeen Illinois, who I had higher expectations for, got absolutely blown out by Maryland, which is the only US state named after a person.
Other than Virginia who's also named after Mary. Oh, actually it's not a name after Queen Elizabeth, who was a virgin regardless that.
Yeah, uh twenty two Missouri lost Texas Number twenty three, West Virginia lost to Arizona State.
Wow.
Imagine at the beginning of the year hearing Missouri and West Virginia on this uh on this list as ranked teams to lose since the last show. Yes, marylanda's name for Queen Henrietta Maria, which is it's not even somebody who is named Mary, they were Maria kind of. I don't know. We need a random geography fact of the day or a random inappropriate joke of the day, which I believe Cam said you might bring to the table
here it might be in the world. Well, to have to check the donors and the sponsors and see how they want their nil money used here on this podcast. But I'll report back if they give me the green light. How about that, Cam?
Mmm, I'm in.
Oh, I'm being told that the donors are screaming.
Gods are screaming, they want their money back. After watching the sky to.
Show you can't get zero back donors, You can't get zero back. All right, let's look at these ascarcbs. Oh boy, there's a lot of questions today and there are all people are in a much better to imagine that. Here we go, deep breath, Here we go, right for the throat, out of the out of the gate. Here at AJ Stevenson. Who's loyalty is greater? Bill with kJ Adams or rockshok blog with Hunter Dickinson.
It's kJ Adams.
Actually, I mean I I yeah, I I I'm definitely a Hunter Dickinson Stan. But I'm also I'm a I'm an offensive Stan, and I am a box score stand So it kind of lines up why I am very very high on Hunter Dickinson. But yes, the answer is Bill self. He would yeat himself off the third floor of an apartment to save kJ Adams. At this point at show me Hawk, how good would Houston basketball be in the sec, boy Houston, where Houston's taking.
Up some rooms, they'd be like Tennessee, Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good call. Good call. Houston's pretty good. I don't know how good they are this year though, Like they're untested. We'll talk about that let's talk about at Bentley Hunt fifteen's question, which I think is a good one. There's a couple of seeding questions. That one is what does Kansas need to do to get at least a two seed? At show me, Hawk says what seed essentially will Kansas be? If they get to fifteen or sixteen conference wins and win the Big Twelve Tournament,
that's a one seed. If they get to fifteen or sixteen conference wins and win the Big Twelve Tournament, that's a one. To get a two seed, they need to finish top three in this conference and probably reach the semis of the Big Twelve Tournament.
Yeah, yeah, I.
Mean if Kansas goes fifteen to five, which is a tall order, I think they're gonna get there. But that's a hard that's not easy. Let's not act like in the bag and then get to the semis and the Big Twelve and lose there. Then that is sixteen and six in conference play and nine and two and non con So that would be twenty five and eight entering the NCAA Tournament with all those quality wins. Yeah, I think that's probably a I think that's probably a two seed.
Yeah, I think so that all all maths.
So at Elliott rus and h landed on the last question, asked us, and I know you didn't listen, So I can, I can. I can do the same question on you that I did on CAM. How many points per game do you think Tony Bennett averaged in college?
Where did he play? I forget?
Oh where did he play? Did he play at Green Bay? Is that when we decided on CAM? Okay?
Yeah, yeah, green Bed?
I think he averaged six point five points a game.
Tony Bennett in his career, which was one hundred and eighteen games, averaged almost twenty points per game, nineteen point five points per game while shooting forty nine percent on threes. And this was a high volume shooter. He was a career a career forty nine point seven percent three point shooter while taking almost five per game. He took almost six hundred career threes and made half of them two ninety of five to eighty four, literally insane. He was
an NBA draft pick. He was two time Mid Continental Conference Player of the Year. So to continue that blew our minds. To continue the theme from the last episode, can any of you guess which school? Bill self played at that should be easy. Yes, we know that the answer to that is Oklahoma State. But how many games? And what were Bill selves college stats? I actually don't know this.
I know one stat actually, and it's hilarious.
Shot forty six solid.
Uh what did you say the status? He shot sixty nine point nine percent from the free throw line.
That is exactly correct, like to a t How on earth did you know that?
I got boared once and looks it up?
So Bill Zelf averaged six points and three assists per game in one hundred and nine career games at Oklahoma State. He played before the three point line was introduced. But yeah, I'd like to see whenever he says, god, we suck at free throws, I'd like to see one of his players go, well, you only shot sixty nine percent. Bill. It's not like we can get lessons from you.
Damn it. Bill. Also, Tony Bennett was was that good of an offensive player and vowed to never let anyone be that good at threes.
Ever, again, yeah, does not really make you scratch your head like that's wild. Who are some of the best college who are some of the best college basketball coaches When it comes to how good they were as players. Jamie Dixon was a really good player at TCU, Penny Hardaway's.
Obvious, Patrick Ewings formerly.
Yeah, not a very good coach though.
Nope, bad, terrible gast Other who were.
Other coaches that were players Like you're telling me Bob Huggins probably wasn't running suicides and practice to get ready for on the hardwood, I'm guessing, Uh think you of who else? I don't even know. I think John Beeline was a pretty good player at one point, but that's been a long time. We should know Woodson now, Cam why would you? Why would you?
I don't know. I assume due it is. It's ten thirty nine PM, and I am sitting here in my Harry Potter closet of an apartment trying to think of college basketball names. And mister Potato had crossed the line across the mind. That's that's all I have now.
Mike Woodson averaged twenty points per game in one hundred games at Indiana and was a lottery pick by the New York Knicks in nineteen eighty. Look at you, of course your assumptions. Uh, I think it's disgusting how your stereotypes proved to be correct on that one. Well, I'm not serious. By the way I am. I am all for, I'm all for't make any sense. He's short and fat. He's according to his college basketball reference page.
Oh, he's not short. I think the next question.
AJ Stevenson, name something you would hold on to, like one hundred dickins and jump ball and never let go my career on this show. I've done five hundred of these things almost. Uh.
The real answer is too sad, so I will say instead the new podcast that me and my friend Liam started it is a movie podcast. This is real, This is real. It is called what do we call it? It's called log rate Review No rate log Review. You should check it out. It's probably on places and if it's not dm rcb Ryan will let me log in and I will DM you where it is correct. But if you like the movies and you want to hear this guy talk about them, you can do that on
rate log Review. A new show brought to you by me and my.
Friend Liam Landon not knowing the name of his own podcast is pretty funny. Like the first episode of Inside the Paint, we were like hello and welcome to Outside the three point Oh damn it, I'm so stupid. Let's restart it.
I named it. I'm sorry.
Does that now, Lena, that sounds like a conflict of interest? Does that mean that the fans can expect that your your dedication, You're unwavering loyalty to the Kansas Basketball Jayhawks podcast that you do for which you may or may not remember the name of that. Does that mean that that will be potentially decreasing? Because that sounds terrifying.
That is possible considering that we recorded that episode before I did this, and my throat is screaming at me with every every word at this point. Yeah, that's maybe going on.
All right, Well, it.
Feels like I've been talking for five hours.
We'll start a GoFundMe page to keep landing on itp and we'll see how it does. I'll let you know. I'll let you know how it does. Maybe. Uh, the permanently typing in Haikus, Wayne Underscore curR can tell us whatever can can can donate a few bucks. I hear you vacations in Cabo enough at Ryan Underscore Landreth, what are two things that you consider yourselves better than ninety nine percent of humanity?
At golf and blowing up toilets.
Doubting myself. Oh, I didn't think it get dark, having low.
Oh wow, I was hoping that it'd be nicer than that.
That's sad, overrating my ability to make other people care about what I talk about, but trying anyway, and thus doing two podcasts about my niche interests.
Hey, it may help if you remember the names of both of them. I hear. That's a good first step.
Hey, I've loved doing Inside the Home Depot all these years. That's literally the only thing I could think of that's not funny.
My answers are guitar hero and typing.
Cam.
Do not cross these fingers. They can move quickly and swiftly.
Mm hmm.
I wish I could be good a guitar hero, but I doubt that I would be. I doubt myself.
And this show is every emotion in the books, Like, it's every single one of them. You're not gonna are you? You're not gonna ask the Patrick Mahomes question. Oh, I'm still steam rolling through here. There's a lot. I'm just skipping around. You know, you know what Cam find? Can you read the ascarcbs. I'm always the one that has to read.
I don't have.
You just look up a rock chalk plug twelve response. I've got to deal with Landon and Necks not being on social media for years. It's always me reading these all right. I guess maybe I shouldn't have skipped around and skipped around and uh now will leave you hanging halfway.
Through show me at Show Me Hawk if you put Patrick Mahomes on the twenty seventeen Kansas Jayhawks do the beat Oregon at the T Mobile Center, and I gotta be honest, I would rather get penetrated by Chuck E Cheese animatronic than watch Patrick Mahomes playper Kansas and Elite Hamson is some kinky stuff, bro oh man, I mean answer the question.
No, Patrick Malme is a pretty good basketball player. He he could have come in the game and replaced Josh Jackson with two fouls.
So I say they win, they lose by four less points?
Yep, oh man, I think that's it. That is absolutely not. It s non effort. What No, there's a bunch of okay, all right at a J. Stevens and Case State suddenly becomes the coaching destination in all of college basketball. The options they're they're considering our to Dan Hurley or Coach K. Who would you rather they hire? Oh, my gosh, I think i' I think I'd rather deal with Coach K
being there honestly than Dan Hurley. At least K one, which I know, Hurley's won back to back titles, but at least K proved that he could win over decades and decades. I think Hurley's going to blow up in a few years.
But wouldn't that be fun to watch up close?
Sure? Yeah, sure, I'll at Jay Hug Junkies Land. And do you still think you are right on a j Store? Or do you think he'll be a valuable piece in March? He adds, I think your opinion is cooked. Store will be a valuable piece in March.
Hey, I hope my opinions cooked, much like myself, myself doubting my opinion doubts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, why not? I hope it would? You know, it'd be extremely normal for me to be wrong again, so you shulde have been money on that.
The s is gonna be weird to listen back to, Like I usually listen to all the shows back in order over the course of the summer, Like I just have them playing every now and then, and this will be a weird one. It'll be some one hundred and five degree day in August where I listen to the TC recap show, I'm like, oh my gosh, things were dark there for a little bit before Kansas won twenty in a row only to lose in the sweet sixteen to a twelve seed. That sucks at Show me how
I really appreciate the eighteen game conference regular seasons. It makes me appreciate or it makes the regular seasons matter a lot more, especially with the trophy to play for than in the NBA. Well, yeah, college sports regular seasons are always going to be more meaningful than than college sports or then professional sports because half the fricking teams aren't title contenders.
Yeah, they don't care too, right, Like they play so many games.
Let's see here at Kate Eeden fourteen, your guests a spread for Saturday's game. Uh, Kansas by three. The metrics love Houston, and last year Kansas was a home underdog and they smashed Houston Kansas by fewer than they will win by. How about that?
Yeah, it seems that seems right.
I think it's Kansas minus two and a half.
At christ Scirocoat two. What's the best lineup to beat Houston? We'll talk about that here in a minute. At Mayo Zi Burner, could kJ adams shoulder injury be the jump start this team needed By the time Adams comes back, Store his committee to defense and playing within his role. I don't think he's saying like I'm glad kJ got hurt. It's a no. Is this the sort of thing that gets a quite possibly quite possibly?
Yeah?
Honestly, Store looks a lot better, and uh he Store is also a talented guy, Like we can't act like this as Nick Timberlake, where we've never seen him play well against power five teams and we're just hoping it starts.
J A.
Stort was an all Big ten player, guys like like it should theoretically either kind of like Remy Martin, where you had optimism that with the playing time it would eventually happen. At James Bedford with Hunter Dickinson listed is out for Saturday's game due to still holding onto that basketball, who should Bill go with for a starting five pair that with at AJ Stevenson named something you would hold onto like Hunter Dickinson jump ball and never let go.
I think Landon actually already answered that question, and that's whenever everything went straight into the litter box, which was you know, you want to you want to answer it again, try to try to Speaking of arcs Landon, you want to try to? You you want to, you want to complete your arc? What is something you would hold on to and not let go?
An ounce of self belief? And also podcast rate log review. That's the real title.
This is kind of like whenever. This is kind of like whenever Michael Scott leaves dunder Mifflin and comes back into the same office to be like, guys, I started a direct competitor. You guys should all check that out instead. This is land and sabotaging Inside the Paint and mutaning on us Cam.
Hey, these are two you can like, movies and sports.
I don't know if that's allowed. Nick went straight sports to movies with no one between. I got a text from Nick Nick said I really miss inside the Paint, and then a minute later I get a text that says, not.
Yeah, no, it's a real thing.
Oh oh boy. Do you ever have asked rcbs, you know, use the Twitter hashtag? Sure, let's go with that.
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All right, good thing, We're all nice and focused for this Number seven Houston at number twelve Kansas. On Saturday at five point thirty, they finally draw an ESPN game and oh yay, fran Fraschilla's back.
Kelvin Sampson's Houston Cougar's enter at seven to zero and Big twelve play seated alone at the top of the league. They've won an incredible seventeen straight league games, dating back to the last time they played at Allen field House, a game I was actually at on February third, twenty twenty four. Howevers fight that awesome record, They've played a
very soft portion of the league schedule. They're owing two against ranked teams, and only one of their seven league games West Virginia is an opponent that would be in the NCAA Tournament if the season ended today.
Cam just sabotaged the paragraph, and now he has to read that paragraph that was Whenever Nice would do that, it would be just a gavel of justice.
I'm going to read by said Milos Uzon, who sounds like a fictional character from a Call of Duty campaign. Game mode took over the point guard Rains following Jamal Sheed's departure. He's been solid offensively, averaging nine points, five assists, and a thirty five percent mark from three. He is one of the conference's best defensive players. He collects assists by passing to two excellent wings.
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Cryer and Emanuel Sharp both average fourteen points per game. They both shoot over ninety percent of the free throw line and both shoot north of forty percent from three. Terrence, can I buy Aowel Arsenal? Yeah, Arsenal the leak Arsenal in my leaky, who spells my leak, my leak. It's like Doug McDaniel, who both shot the ball very well. Are the primary wings off the bench.
Houston is a very good three point shooting team. We'll talk more about that in a second. Joan Roberts is the de facto center. He plays at six eight two thirty five. Houston's got three guys that play the five, really three forwards, and they're all six to eight. They're all stockier more than they are tall. He averages as if six to eight isn't tall, but you know, for a five man, he averages eleven and seven while shooting fifty five percent from the floor, but he's a sub
sixty percent free throw shooter. Houston doesn't get to the free throw line very much at all, and they're very good with their guards when they're there. But remember last year the strategy was you can file their bigs and get away with it. Curious if Kansas does that. Joseph Tugler and Javier Francis are both six to eight as well, they get the reserve minutes. Houston primarily plays four out because their coach has adapted to twenty twenties basketball. Unlike somebody else.
I know, Houston is arguably college basketball's best defensive team, and that's where Ken Palm has them. Ken Palm, to be fair, has had Houston at number one in defense for like forty years.
Yep. Ken Palm is Cam and Houston is the Chuck E. Cheese anatronic.
Correct oh Man.
Their opponents are scoring fifty five points and shooting thirty six percent against them, both of which are first nationally for the Kougs. They shoot better on offense from three, which forty one percent, than their opponents shoot from two forty percent. Both those are top five marks. They are elite at both protecting the ball and taking away blogging shots and avoiding putting opponents on the free throw line. Their stats are slightly inflame do to a week er schedule.
As far as weaknesses, they haven't been very good at shooting twos themselves. They hardly ever get to the free throw line, and they're not particularly strong on the glass as well.
And Kansas is six and three all time against Cougars, but before last year they had only played one time in almost forty years. Neither game last year was.
Close, especially the second one, which was over in an instant, like it was straight on roadkill on the side. It was over very quickly. And then just whenever you thought it couldn't get worse, Kevin mccullor reaggravated his knee injury after scoring no points in the first half and went out.
And then right when Nick said, you know they could make a comeback here and you said, it for sure, can't get any worse, Hunter Dickinson dislocated his guerrilla sized collarbone and missed the next and absolutely then then the walk on did like I remember the walk on doing, like between the legs, dribbles, step back, NBA range three. That was fun. Good times, and by good times, i'd bad times. All right, here's my prediction for this game. I like to go first whenever I provide the most
shocking take or whatever. I think Houston's overrated. I think they're good, and I've definitely learned my lesson on not doubting them after what they did last year, after I danced on their grave for starting one to two, especially when Kansas blew them out at Allen, because they haven't lost the Big Twelve game since. But I think Houston gets put in their place a little bit here. I don't think Houston. I do think they're good. I don't think they're go on the road and beat the top
two or three teams in the league. Good Ken Palm has this as Kansas as an underdog. ESPN has Kansas as a forty percent chance to win. The point spreads aren't gonna give you Kansas plus money at home, but I think there's gonna be a lot of value there for KU. Houston hasn't played an opponent or played in a venue like this all year, and I think Kansas primarily thanks to Dickinson being dominant on the glass. That's
where Kansas won the game last year. I think you see Allen field House really get into this one and will Kansas to a wider than people are expecting. Margin of victory Kansas seventy four, Houston sixty.
Wow. Yeah, I'm I'm actually going back and forth. So I'm gonna pick the building to win. I will take Kansas at home when in doubt, pick Kansas at home. So I'm gonna take the Trayhawks. I will say, like sixty four, fifty six.
Okay, I'll take I'll take Kansas as well. I think sixty six to sixty two.
Percent chance they lose this game. I think it's ten.
It's higher than that. Yeah, it's probably twenty to thirty percent.
No, it's not they're at home. They win ninety nine percent.
They lost to West Virginia at home.
But Houston is a team that could hold them to like legitimately under sixty.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I don't know if Houston can get the fifty in that scenario, like they this is such a can.
Kansas's defense is very good. But if if Houston holds Kansas like fifty four, Houston can score fifty five plus.
Yeah, but I also don't think we really know how good Houston is. They lost Alabama, they lost to Texas A and M, and they haven't played anyone worth the flip since those games. Like I granted, I know Kansas lost home to West Virginia and Houston beat West Virginia at home, but that's Kansas has a couple of big twe Kansas has win at Cincinnati is better than any of Houston's and we don't even think since he's very good.
I mean, I just picked Kansas to win. I'm just saying I think Houston has a slightly better chance than ten.
Yeah, I would, it'd be an upset. We'll see what the point spreads say, but I assume Kansas will be a two or three point home favorite, and I would feel confident laying the points in that scenario. Uh And I don't bet, and Cam should call the number, and Landon doesn't bet, So don't take advice from any of us Big twelve games to pick number three. Iowa State hits the road to play Arizona State. I am feeling frisky forks up.
Sure, I'll ride with my my surprise team of the year.
I am not Iowa State.
Colorado looking for their first win. Do they get it in Tucson against Arizona.
I say, no, yatsuh not even clothes.
TCU at UCF. Lanta doesn't want to pick UCF. He thinks they're dreadful, but I think you have to hear.
Yeah, I am going to here.
Yep, CF Baylor, who's been very underwhelming but still solid this year at Utah. I believe it's CBS has Baylor as a ten seed right now in the NCAA Tournament. They are not impressive even in the slightest from a resume perspective. I don't think this win will move the needle much, but they're gonna win at Utah.
Give me the Utes. They actually have three conference wins, which is like about as many as I thought they'd have all year.
Yeah, I can. I give him Baylor number twenty three. West Virginia at Kansas State. I will Cats at home. I'm gonna keep picking U until they win one.
West Virginia body less than five.
Give me the Cats.
Wow. It's amazing. When I hear Cam pick the same team that I picked, I feel better, Like, I know that has no impact at all on the game, but I'm like, oh, Cam said, I think I think they have to win at some point. Yeah, and this is it. This is a spot. Cincinnati at BYU. I'll take Cinci on the road.
Dang it, dude, I was gonna say a A. I'll yeah, sure, since yeah, just give me Cincinnati. I don't even this game sucks.
This league is nothing but twelve seed caliber teams. Oklahoma State at Texas Tech. There's a layup. I'll take the Red Raiders.
Yeah, yeah, Red Raiders.
Other games. Number twenty one, Michigan at number eleven Perdue. It's hard to see Perdue losing twice in a row at Mackie. Give me the Boilers. Agree, yep, tom Izzo's number eight Michigan State Spartans at Rutgers. Are you feeling the Spartans to win another conference game? I am actually yeah, I am too.
Yeah, I don't.
I wish they played a tougher opponent here, but off off of bye and all that. Yeah, they should win. Number thirteen Texas A and M at Texas. Big rivalry here, I will I was gonna say Texas, but Buzz Williams v. Rodney Terry. No, give me the fighting Wade Taylors.
A and M football and A and M basketball are the same program. Therefore, give me Texas.
I'll take A and M number two.
Duke at Wake Forest. The Streaking Blue Devils eventually have to lose an ACC game. Is this it?
Nope?
Duke now correct YEP number sixteen, Ole miss at number twenty two Missouri. This feels like where the slide for the Tiger starts. Give me the running Rebels on the road.
I'm not picking Chris Beard. Give me me the Tigers.
I will take the Tigers and here you go, guys. Bills at Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game.
Chiefs easy, easy money.
I don't think it's that easy, but yes, Chiefs, Chiefs win.
I actually like, actually, but the pick is easy.
My actual take is the Bills are going to beat the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game. I was gonna pick it anyway, but especially now to zig where you zag uh and see if I can score a pickup point. This feels like Josh Allen's time. We've said that before, but it actually are Josh Allen's time.
You you literally in the group chats told me that I'd be insane for picking the Bills like twelve did.
That is actually an observing No what I said was you'd be insane to put money United States currency on the Chiefs losing a playoffs. You can think it's gonna happen, but I don't know why you would take it. Are hard earned dollars. You're hard to earned Chicago dollars and bet them against the Chiefs and the playoffs.
I don't know, man, they games a coin flip.
I'm understanding that we're putting pretty significant stakes on the pick them loser this year, but I am not held to the accountability of any of my pickham actions like that. That's not held the dollars that just may be held to well, waltzing into Chicago and taking one right through the temple.
Yeah, pretty much.
Our next show, well, are we going Sunday afternoon or are we just gonna wait for Monday night pre Chiefs are post Chiefs.
I don't care. I mean, you guys will probably want to focus on the Chiefs. I'm guessing.
I might be busy Sunday afternoon before the Chiefs, so we might have to do Monday.
We'll see, all right, we'll figure it out, but you'll get a show recapping Kansas is thwacking over Houston to enjoy while you're talking about the Chiefs going to another Super Bowl. Those words won't bite me at all. Yes, this is Jayhawks get Kentucky and the next day that Chiefs played the Bengals at home in the ANFC Championship Game. What could go wrong? This is ends at the paint on Rockchalk Blog. We'll be back for the UCF game,
the return game. UCF coming for revenge. Revenge their fifty two point loss.
I'm Ryan Lander, I'm Landing Fields, I'm Cam, and I think they lose by less than fifty two.
You would think, you would think, But if you'd said that last time, you would have been wrong. Call the number. Don't take Cam's betting advice.
