Indie Bets

Fernanda Graciolli & Val Sopi

Business

Entrepreneurship

Marketing

A podcast about building, growing, and selling digital products. Hosted by Fernanda Graciolli and Val Sopi.

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Episodes

Letting go of desperation

We talk about how making products should come from a genuine place.

Aug 11, 2021•40 min•Ep. 12

Building social capital vs going for cash

We talk about slow steady growth and social capital.

Aug 04, 2021•37 min•Ep. 11

Improv #10

We celebrate our EP10 milestone by hating on twitter : )

Jul 28, 2021•43 min•Ep. 10

Do only what is needed to NOT fail - no more, no less

Fernanda shares her latest projects including https://growthnotes.ghost.io/. Val talks about a few new mental models he has come across.

Jul 21, 2021•38 min•Ep. 9

All-in with your product, or not?

We share our experiences of going all-in with a product and our risk tolerance.

Jul 14, 2021•48 min•Ep. 8

Building in public without being a show off

We talk about how to build a personal brand, genuinely, without sounding like we're boasting.

Jul 07, 2021•36 min•Ep. 7

Keeping up with mental health

We talk about how mental health affects our productivity and things we should (read: must!) do to be kinder to ourselves.

Jun 30, 2021•33 min•Ep. 6

Scratching your own itch, or not.

We talk about sleep, gpt3, and if we can work on products we don't care about but might pose a great opportunity.

Jun 23, 2021•54 min•Ep. 5

The importance of being at ease when working on products

We talk about how you feel when making your product is how users will feel when using it, deliberate marketing plans, and being an indie maker vs having a job.

Jun 16, 2021•44 min•Ep. 4

Optimize your work by getting to know yourself

We talk about what works and what doesn't for us when working on products and projects, how we don't like cold calling, and being okay with taking on something that already exists.

Jun 09, 2021•47 min•Ep. 3

Things that boost our confidence as indie makers

Fernanda talks in detail about the sale of her product Inspired. Val talks about his cautious optimism with blogstatic's new registrations.

Jun 02, 2021•44 min•Ep. 2

Make something simply because you want it to exist

Our very first episode.

May 27, 2021•43 min•Ep. 1

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