If any of you listened to the trailer I dropped a couple weeks ago, for We Met Online: Season 2, you might recognize the voice of today’s guest, Dr Roger McFillin. Or you might recognize it from his own show, The Radically Genuine Podcast, which ranks in the top 2% of downloads worldwide Dr. McFillin is a clinical psychologist and a writer, who devoted his 20 year career to providing care for adults and adolescents struggling with depression, eating disorders, PTSD, and suicidal behavior, and ha...
Oct 25, 2023•1 hr 11 min•Season 4Ep. 108
Today’s episode is with Vintologi, the founder of the eponymous "religion" and author of the Transmaxxing Manifesto. It was recorded in July of 2021 if certain references are out of date. It was certainly interesting to revisit after my recent episode with Tina, on The TRANSMaxxing Redux episode. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Misery is a Butterly" by Blonde Redhead. 2004. Courtesy of Be...
Sep 27, 2023•1 hr 16 min•Season 4Ep. 107
After a very brief TL;DR of this whole sordid business that's been ruining my life for the better part of a year, we dive into an interview with... another British criminologist... named Christopher Lowe (@ChrisLowe1994), who's working on his masters and focusing on incels. It's a lovely conversation that I'm sure you'll enjoy! PS Stay tuned at the end for a little public service announcement regarding certain behaviors that are COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE and their consequences, starting now. "Eve...
Sep 17, 2023•49 min•Season 4Ep. 106
Here’s the second half of my conversation with Tonic! If you haven’t listened to the first part, please go back and check it out, for more of his life story and a history of incel spaces, to lead into some deeper and darker waters about Elliott Rodger, r/IncelTear, macabre poasting, and the experience of having one's words transformed into art. Part 2 of 2. ——————————————————————— "Fuck it I love you" by Lana Del Rey. 2019. Interscope Records. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon ...
Aug 03, 2023•54 min•Season 4Ep. 104
Today’s episode is a true return-to-form to very early days of the pod, as Tonic and I discuss the very early days of the community — long-gone places like love shy, r/incelswithouthate, r/askanincel and r/ inceltears. We also talk about the ER manifesto, the need for an affirmative incel identity, manipulative documentarians, the redemptive promise of the arts and connection, and his insights are absolutely brilliant. Part 1 of 2. "Change the World" by Eric Clapton. 1996. The Orchard Music. ———...
Jul 27, 2023•59 min
34-year-old John (@evilcorgi69) is a writer from North Carolina. He’s an incel, and he’s had a difficult life, he’s a male survivor of childhood sexual abuse and he’s been grossly mistreated by the travesty that is the mental healthcare system in this country. As you’re about to hear, John is charming, articulate, insightful, and kind, so on one hand, I really enjoyed talking to him. But his account of his experiences was also utterly infuriating... "Protection" by Massive Attack. 1994. Wild Bun...
Jul 20, 2023•1 hr 9 min•Season 4Ep. 102
Tina (@LlamatoTina) is a 23 year old transwoman from Germany - a former associate of Vintologi, the Swedish author of the eponymous Transmaxxing Manifesto. She is a transmaxxer qua transmaxxer, who endorses transitioning for all sorts of reasons besides gender dysphoria, including "personal gain" and escaping inceldom. But her own story is much more complex. "Our Lips Are Sealed" by The Go-Go's. 1981. Courtesy of I.R.S. Records. Check out Tina's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@llamato ...
Jun 30, 2023•1 hr 17 min•Season 4Ep. 101
While Katherine Dee is away on special assignment, Naama and special guest, Brooke (her IRL bessie) discuss the cultural phenomenon of Tradwives: Who are they? Do they have any influence? Are they... dangerous? References: RedPillWives: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWives/ Thoughts on Tradthots: https://didacticmind.com/2017/12/thoughts-on-tradthots.html Allie Beth Stuckey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2B5NI6rfE&t=380s JustPearlyThingz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2B5NI6rfE&...
Jun 19, 2023•1 hr 4 min•Season 1Ep. 9
Katherine and Naama explore the infinitely imaginative space of erotic fan fiction by discussing "Slash," the 2016 indie gem starring Michael Johnston and Hannah Marks. References: "Slash" (2016) IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4729990/ Archive of Our Own: https://archiveofourown.org/ FanFiction.Net : https://www.fanfiction.net/ Fansplaining (website and podcast): https://www.fansplaining.com/...
Jun 05, 2023•55 min•Season 1Ep. 8
Naama and Katherine briefly wade in the waters of the Manosphere, by reading some iconic posts and discussing them. This one gets lively. Part 2 of 2. References: Sex and Character, by Otto Weininger (1906): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1692509/pdf/medlibhistj00008-0073.pdf 5 Reasons to Date a Girl with an Eating Disorder: https://web.archive.org/web/20131127074616/http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorder Ladder Theory: https://ladderthe...
May 29, 2023•41 min•Season 1Ep. 7
Today's episode, officially 100, brings you a timeless theme: a currycel comes to the West with hopes of living out the immigrant dream. But it doesn’t quite work out as planned, as ThirdWorldCel describes alienation, disappointment, and depression from his ubiquitous perspective. "Born to Die" by Lana Del Rey. 2011. Interscope Records. ——————————————————————— Discord: thirdworldcel#4881 ——————————————————————— ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsle...
May 25, 2023•57 min•Season 4Ep. 100
Naama and Katherine briefly wade in the waters of the Manosphere, by reading some iconic posts and discussing them. This one gets lively. Part 1 of 2. References: Sex and Character, by Otto Weininger (1906): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1692509/pdf/medlibhistj00008-0073.pdf 5 Reasons to Date a Girl with an Eating Disorder: https://web.archive.org/web/20131127074616/http://www.returnofkings.com/21313/5-reasons-to-date-a-girl-with-an-eating-disorder Ladder Theory: https://ladderthe...
May 22, 2023•58 min•Season 1Ep. 6
Today Katherine and Naama discuss Nora Ephron's 1998 romantic comedy, "You've Got Mail" along with a host of questions about falling in love online, digital psychosis, and if it's possible to pairbond during cybersex. Subscribe on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and follow on Twitter @wemetonlinepod.
May 15, 2023•53 min•Season 1Ep. 5
Today's episode is about what they’re all about - obsessions, rejections, frustrations, and putting one foot in front of the other in the face of it all. It features Trevor (@mrmapleleafrag), a 26-year-old incel and writer from far up North in Canada, who works in local news, and struggles with OCD. We discuss his experiences with the mental health system and dating, and a savage one-itis on a counselor that still haunts him. "LOVE." by Kendrick Lamar. 2017. Courtesy of UMG. Read Trevor's substa...
May 12, 2023•1 hr•Season 4Ep. 99
Katherine and Naama discuss the phenomenon of Spreadsheet Dating: an optimized approach to love for the #girlboss of recent history. Read the piece in Vice: https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3dew/optimisation-dating-hustle-culture-match-making And take the love calculation based on the 37% rule: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a30859888/calculate-love-valentines-day/ Subscribe on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and follow on Twitter @wemetonlinepod....
May 08, 2023•50 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Naama and Katherine discuss all things cam girls: the history, psychology, and cultural context from whence they came, and discover that they might be the first to do so. Subscribe to "we met online" for new episodes every Monday and listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4LKzPoXGP5ov2aVQdQT0ue?si=53ea613072bc47e1
May 01, 2023•54 min•Season 1Ep. 3
Katherine and Naama discuss the popular personal advertisement section known as "Missed Connections," made popular on Craigslist. Who and what are the authors of these ads really hoping to attract? Subscribe to "we met online" for new episodes every Monday on anchor.fm/we-met-online , substack.com/wemetonline and follow us on twitter @wemetonlinepod.
Apr 24, 2023•38 min•Season 1Ep. 2
A bonus episode that will most likely self-destruct within 24 hours about the events of this week and weaponized concern trolling. Bartók: Dance Suite, Sz. 77 - 1. Moderato. London Philharmonic. 1965 Decca Music Group Limited.
Apr 20, 2023•23 min•Season 4Ep. 999
On the inaugural episode of "we met online," Naama and Katherine discuss 2011's seminal doc, Catfish: the film that launched the TV show, the phenomenon, and the prolific career f its star, Nev Schulman. Subscribe at: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/we-met-online/episodes/CATFISH-e21os99/a-a9k7oeo
Apr 17, 2023•1 hr 4 min•Season 1Ep. 1
Here's a bonus episode with Dr Sohom Das (@dr_s_das), a London-based forensic psychiatrist, author, and YouTuber who I met on the Shaun Attwood Show, answering some of my questions about violence, criminal behavior, mental illness and where they all meet. Check out Dr. Das's YouTube channel, "A Psych for Sore Minds": https://t.co/NyhrUHxWkc ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus content, newsletters, community, and early, ad-free episodes on www.patreon.com/naamaka...
Apr 06, 2023•33 min•Season 4Ep. 990
Today’s episode features a young man who’ll go by Paul, in his 30s, from England, who’s not quite an incel - he lost his virginity at 27 and had a brief relationship of a couple months - but otherwise, he basically is. He thinks that his relationship with his mother might have had something to do with it, a theme that seems to run quietly throughout the incelosphere. "Momma Said" by the Shirelles. 1961. Courtesy of UMG. ——————————————————————— Please check out my Patreon channel for bonus conten...
Mar 23, 2023•1 hr 12 min•Season 4Ep. 98
This week’s guest is Jake (@FIat_Stanley), a 23 year-old American incel who doesn’t really identify as such; he isn’t much of a joiner. He’s also abstinent from alcohol and mind-altering substances, and he believes there’s a connection. We discuss, and get into a fascinating discussion about ethics, consent, and social engineering. J.I.D. performing "151 Rum" by J.I.D. 2019. Dreamville Records. Check out Jake's YouTube channel, @Jakester897: here . ——————————————————————— Please check out my Pat...
Mar 09, 2023•1 hr•Season 4Ep. 97
Today we sit down with Joe Whittaker (@CTProject_JW), an extremism researcher who teaches cybercrime at Swansea University in Wales, to continue our series about the wonderful world of Countering Violent Extremism. We talk about his research on online radicalization and get into the nuts and bolts of some of these "derad" programs everyone’s always talking about. ——————————————————————— "untitled 07 | levitate" by Kendrick Lamar. 2016. Courtesy of Universal Music Group. ——————————————————————— R...
Feb 23, 2023•1 hr 8 min•Season 4Ep. 96
Today you’re in for another treat with Gio (@giantgio), host of Gio’s Content Minded Corner, a fellow podcaster and fantastic artist (and a truecel, according to him, for those of you listeners griping about the excess of normies on the lineup). We discuss inceldom, romance, philosophy, the e-Right, gatekeeping, turning 30, critical theory, wrestling, Law & Order SVU, the gender wars, pay-pigs, and much more. Dig in. "Never Meant" by American Football. 1999. Courtesy of Polyvinyl Records. ——...
Feb 17, 2023•1 hr 19 min•Season 4Ep. 95
Today’s guest is the writer Mary Gaitskill, whose novels and short stories have been adapted into motion pictures and nominated for major literary prizes like the PEN/Faulkner award, the National Book Award, and the National Critics Circle Award, and if you’ve read any of them, you know why, you know how her characters make you feel seen, for all the cruelty and strength and fragility and beauty and ugliness you possess, how they remain alive within you long after you turn the last page, and cha...
Feb 09, 2023•1 hr 12 min•Season 4Ep. 94
Today’s guest , Matt, is also a former incel, who ascended at 23, and is currently married — essentially — with four children, and studying psychology. He also has a YouTube channel, sort of a self-help for incels, called @BlackPillMedicine. It’s a tiny channel, in a sea of similarly themed content - self improvement, DIY psychology, red pillers, and the like — but Matt stands apart from this crowd, for a number of reasons, including his comprehensive theory of inceldom as a social disorder. Che...
Jan 12, 2023•1 hr 3 min•Season 4Ep. 93
Happy New Year, world! Before our first official episode of the year, with Black Pill Medicine, here's a little bonus -- the audio from my chat with Dr. Carolina Hermes of Brazil, that she graciously let me share with you all here. Carolina's YouTube channel is youtube.com/@carohermes, and her Twitter account is @Manosphere101. (The bio is "satire of the Manosphere" and I know some listeners were curious if this would be an anti-incel perspective, but it really wasn't -- very interesting though!...
Jan 07, 2023•52 min•Season 4Ep. 401
Welcome back to the Clip Show. Today we continue on our journey, commemorating 2022, with four fantastic guests and what we learned from them... There's still one more week of the year, so enjoy, and stay tuned for the final installment of 2022: RECOIL! Merry Christmas from your Faerie Podmother! 🎄 Outro: "Suddenly Last Summer" by The Motels. 1983, c/o Capitol Records. ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Media. Music by Cyrus Melchor. ————————————...
Dec 22, 2022•31 min•Season 3Ep. 398
Hello world! Today's episode is a bonus, year-in-review medley, as a way to take inventory before heading on into 2023. PodMother loves all her children equally, so we're not going to a "Best Of" list. Instead, this is going to be a clip show, like they do on TV, to recap what we’ve learned, and check in our lovely guests. Outro: "We Are Born When We Die" by Apollo Sunshine. 2008. Courtesy of Headless Heroes. ——————————————————————— INCEL is created and produced by Naama Kates for Crawlspace Med...
Dec 15, 2022•29 min•Season 3Ep. 397
Today we’re going to continue this streak of exceptional interviews and our branching out of the WEIRD world we often inhabit (that’s the acronym WEIRD: Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic) with Karun, a currycel living in India. This is a timely interview in part because just last week we had a mind numbingly bad article in GNET (the global network on extremism and technology) titled “Incel Extremism in India: A view from the global south.” I won’t be including that link in t...
Dec 08, 2022•1 hr 6 min•Season 3Ep. 92
