In the beginning, episode 53 and we are back across the table from one another corner. You're back from Bali. Yeah, well, I always liked it so much better in person, isn't it? You're off much? How much sleep? Yeah. I caught the red eye home last night so I got I walked in the door about two hours ago and I reckon I got one hour of dodgy Jetstar sleep overnight so. And one hour of Jetstar sleeps probably the equivalent of like
half an hour of decent. Yeah, and and the other three families I was travelling with some how we were on Virgin. I don't know what I did but anyway. Isn't it funny when you book? I was. I think about this in the mornings when I'm on the way into the radio show, 'cause I'm on the roads, there's very few people around. But occasionally I'll see somebody with a suitcase in hand who's clearly booked the first flight out of the Gold Coast. And I think those people hate
the past versions of themselves. Who? The past version of you sees that early flight and it's $200 cheaper and go yeah, I'll just catch that. But the you that has to deal with the that flight in the moment, it gets so angry with past you for trying to save. Money. That's me. Yeah, every week, Liam, especially now daylight savings is coming because to get to Sydney it is the 6:00 AM flight. So yeah, we are on the Red Bulls today because I need every bit
of cafe. I get we're both on the Red Bull. Today talk about Red Bull and you know, people go no one drinks that stuff. Have a listen to our Lions Cam Rainer. He must. Do you get man of the match against the Suns? He was, he would, he would have been in my best two players on the ground. When I was watching you, at one stage you were throwing up on set of wing, and then they brought a concoction out. It looked like a Red Bull and everything in it, and you've
slugged it down. You're a crook. Yeah, I'll beat crook. I'll wait. Your throat's still a little bit. Little bit outrage. But the concoction was out. It was a Red Bull assault table and a NOTO, so I'm not sure if I'll be trying that anytime soon. Yeah, wouldn't recommend that. You could have told me when the Rainer cocktail, the Red Bull, a No dozen assault tablet. Brisbane Lions on on the on the good, on the good stuff. Well, big shout out to Cameron 'cause it's grand final day.
It's, if you're listening to this on on the Saturday, the day it drops in his grand final day and the Brisbane Lions are going for back to back premierships. Yeah, well, I mean in that game it is here he is sick. But he was, he was, I mean, he was an animal. That game, that animal was after the game against the Gold Coast Suns and he was unstoppable. He was unstoppable. Him and Josh Dunkley, they bullied the Gold Coast Suns. They were just too physical for
them. I think they win again today and here's a here's a statement for you. If the Brisbane Lions win today, they have the potential. It'll be, it's their third grand final in a row. If they win today, it's two wins out of three grand finals with the players that are coming to the Brisbane Lions in the offseason, presuming all trades get done, which I expect them to you, you could be talking about this current Brisbane Lions team under Chris Fagan as one of the best teams of the last three
decades. Because with Sam Draper and Oscar Allen, 2 bigs that they're expected to get, there's another kid coming in this year's draught through the Academy system, the ongoing development of their youth, this team could dominate the comp for the next two to three years. Inside Word camera and a the and and, all fuelled by the camera and a cocktail of a Red Bull and Nodos tablet and a salt. Tablet. That's, that's, that's yeah. I wonder maybe would he say he said salt, didn't he?
Salt tablet, Salt tablet and Nodos and A and A and a Red Bull. When I first heard it, for some reason in my head I was thinking pickle juice and I was going so a Red Bull pickle juice and that'd. Be pretty good too. That'd be a decent. One we could, could, would, would Red Bull entertain a Cam rain, Cam rain again, get his face on it well. There we go. You never know. You never know. Hey. Yeah. From Cam Rainer to Harry Styles. Yeah, there's a job do. You know who Harry Styles is?
I. Do know One Direction? All right, I just got kids. I always, I always want to check before we jump into these. If you don't know who Harry Styles is, he is the he's Justin Bieber. He is one of the biggest pop stars of the last probably 10 years, part of One Direction. But more importantly for us, Harry Styles is now a member of the Sub Three hour Marathon club. Yep, going Incognito. This is Berlin marathon last weekend.
Harry Styles, who's 31 now, has run a 25913, which was more than 25 minutes better than his previous best when he ran Tokyo in March. So I think first and foremost, we can say Harry's got the running bug because if you run a 324 marathon and then come back for more and you will you tick off Tokyo and now you've ticked off Berlin. I think it's probably not too big a stretch to say that Harry. I can see Harry wanting to tick off all 7 majors.
So I think I'll say it. We're going to see Harry and. You reckon he'll come down and see? I reckon we see Harry and Sydney now mate. Might take five years. Four years. No, no, no. You think he's listen up. Sydney Marathon listen up message for you. I'm looking down the camera as I say this TCS Sydney Marathon Elliot Kipchogo last year, great, you nailed it. You sold it first year as a major marathon.
Next year, go get Harry Styles. Pay him what you need to, because if you want to continue to build, if you want to build on the hype that you generated in your year one as a major, go get Harry Styles. Go and get the celebrity. Pay him what he needs, get him out here, make it a thing. I don't know if Harry wants to be a feature like that, given that he ran this under someone else's name. Under someone else's name with a bandana on and sonny's. But if you. Make a feature of it.
That is another way to continue to build on the the popularity of Sydney as a major marathon. The fake name that he ran under Ted Sarandos. What's? What's that mean? Well, the CEO of Netflix is Ted Sarandos, so he's obviously had a bit of fun there. I don't know if there's a relationship, but. I just I the first thing I did. Let's get back to proper running. Yeah, let's get back to running. Yeah, well, that was a. Serious running that wasn't giving no, no danger. A river.
Yeah, yeah. I'm just, I typed in who coaches him because he ran pretty much. He ran a 129 and then 1:30. So yeah, yeah, on the money, obviously training properly and doing all that. So I can't find who, just like with a quick Google, can't find who trains him at the moment. But from 2018 to 2021, which tells us he's been training a
while for this. Yeah, he's been in the running scene for a while, but former Special Forces soldier and Executive Peak Performance founder said his one mile PB was 513. What does that work to at a per K base? We work on the metric system down here. 513 is moving. It's good. This the the story I've found about you've. Asked me something. All I'm saying is he's got a
really good speed base. The the story I found about Harry in the run says that there's a fellow by the name of David Tebow or David Thibow, who's a former British special that's. What I just said. If he didn't say his name, you got to give him his name. You couldn't say his name. That's why he didn't say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, he's clearly and that is that's not irrelevant of a celebrity or not. That's serious. Running a 25913 is serious running. Harry.
Big shout out. Welcome to the running community. Looks like he's running in alpha flies for the the shoe nerds out there. 259 and and a friend of mine ran. Oh, OK, here's the story for you. Yep. Friend of mine Nick, shout out Nick Spanner, part of the Runners in the Dark crew in Sydney went over and ran Berlin. And I'm going to show you a photo because. Did he go for the time? Was that the reason he went to Berlin to get the fast? I don't know.
I don't know if he ran there specifically to run a fast time, but he ran there, obviously got into Berlin and he's run at 2:58. So I don't believe that's Nick's fastest ever marathon. But. How's this? So everybody knows the photographer's on course. You go, you finish your race, and then at the end you get an email going. Here's all the photos of you throughout the course. Now, there was some jokes made about Nick. And when we saw the Harry Tom, we're like, did you see him on
course? Nick said no, I'd heard he was running. I kept an eye for him. I didn't see him. And then Nick's gone and looked through the photos with his bib number. And he's running with him. Have a look at the photo that Nick has from the day. That's Nick out in front in the AG one. Yeah, I can see him.
And then where am I? In the background, head down, head down is Harry Styles. So there's Nick's got this great photo of him probably 5 metres or so ahead of Harry Styles at the Berlin Marathon. And as I said to Nick, I'm like, mate, if you haven't bought that photo, I'll buy it for you because that is a photo as a runner that you should be putting up in your pool room. You've given this guy some props this morning. I love you but. It's a great running story. Having this this type of like
all people. Yes, involved now from Harry. We'll move on. It's time to talk finance. We've never talked finance on this show before, but we've got 2 finance stories, OK, both running related. Yes, I I know. So I just saw the second note. Firstly, let's let's let's go with the first one. We've been quoted in AFR. Yes, he's failing financial review. For those of you playing along at home in the Beginning podcast officially quoted in a recent
article. Yep. Courtney, I can. About running influences. About running influences, the amount of cash they're making. Yeah, yeah. And they took a quote from us, from you in fact, saying that you'd like to see some of that money. So they took quotes from our AG one live they. Didn't attribute that quote, which I wasn't happy about. Yeah, right. They only attributed the quote from you in the beginning podcast Courtney Atkinson saying that he would like to see more
money going to they. Didn't quote. They didn't quote Andy. And then when they used a quote from Andy Buchanan, Australian marathon record holder, they didn't cite that. That was from our AG One podcast. Go and get that journalist. No, the the irony of it was I had this article sent to me through a few different people. Yeah, None of them had read the art. This is now. This is media for you. Yeah. And, and journals or, or whatever. Yeah. No one had actually read it.
They didn't send it because we were in it. Oh. Really. No, so I actually they just saw the headline brother in So they all sent me this, people who would read. The Australian Review. Yeah, the FIN review send it to me, but they, they didn't mention we're in it, they didn't realise. So when I said hey, we're quoted in it, 'cause I actually I was, I read through the whole thing. Yeah, no idea they did, you know, so people are just read.
Just goes to show it. But we are so guilty of headline culture. Now, now, the I suppose the irony is I'm heading down to the snowy mountains next week to take the run. As mentioned in that article Running. The influences, yeah, Give them a shout it. Yeah, yeah. Louis Phillips. We'd have to know. I mean, Louis. I will. So I'll get some more information on where the article, how it became. I would love to have a conversation with Louis about running.
Well, I think he's really interesting. I think he's a really. Because I didn't realise he'd been on Big Brother. I didn't realise that either. Yeah, he was on Big Brother. Yeah. So he generated an audience off that and then he's now. Converted, so that is. So there's always a story behind the story. Yeah, so true, isn't it? So it's not like it's not like you just started running and then suddenly bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No, there's a story that got you to a point to.
Well also let me say I don't know what his audience looked like pre or post Big Brother and I. Maybe he is. Maybe he discounts any Big Brother influence on his audience size. I don't know, but I'm 99% sure he was on Big Brother. Well, that's another question. Well, well, but. I I love what Louis does for running. I think it's great. Well. When he's on the coast one day, 'cause we wanna do interviews in person, it's way better. Yes, Louis. Well, next time you're on the coast.
Oh, you're welcome. I'll see you next week 'cause I wanna, I wanna ask you this, but I've been away a few times with he came out to Uluru last year. Yep. When we're out there running. Is Danny Byron with you earlier? Oh yeah, true. Byron So there's been a few times we catch up a a fair bit. So it was it was I think for anyone. We'll put the link in if anyone wants to have a look. But the thing here is the article makes it out like there's this big, you know,
really like tension. There's not. Not between us, just between. Yeah, elites and runners, there's not all runners and and the other thing Andy's quoted in that story and for anybody that listened to the AG one episode in full, Andy's not critical of the influences. He his comment about the quote that they use in the article that Andy doesn't think people should go and think someone who's been running for 12 months knows everything about running.
That's different, that's coaching, that's instructive, that's got. Nothing to do. But he also said he the elites, the elites, they need to learn off what the, you know, run influencers are doing and actually do better in showing what they do. Big shout out to Andy as well because I've been asking for fashion advice from Andy at the moment.
Remember what fashion advice he he had this T-shirt that he was wearing and it's an ASICS sports style T shirt and I asked him because I saw it when he was up here for the marathon. It looks it was cool. It was very cool. Anyway, next finance story. Yep. Can you believe it? When it rains finance, it pours finance. I'm going to take a victory lap on this. I have you.
Call it. Have I, well, have I not been banging on about the fact that Strava and the Runner acquisition, this is, this is massive for running. This is going to become a behemoth. We banged on about it. I kid you not. I was texting somebody a running related thing. There's potentially some things we might get to do down the track. And I, and this person has just entered the running world from a, an agency perspective.
And I was just sending him a bit of an email to say, hey, here's a bit of the lay of the land running wise, his brands, his Insta accounts. Here's some things you might that might help you. And I said in this email, mate, Strava and Runner, this is the sleeping giant of the running world. Keep an eye on it. If it ever becomes publicly listed by shares, Strava is making a move to an IPO, to an initial public offering and becoming a publicly listed company.
So, so many things. Off the back of that you can. You can, I suppose, predict it's. So they're basically the, the, the lay of the land is right now, they are sounding out funds or organisations in the US to, to, to handle this IPO for them, which is where they would go public and allow people to buy shares in it. It was last valued in May by a, a capital mob at 2.2 billion, Jesus, $2.2 billion. So they've recently appointed a chief financial officer, which is what will often happen before
an IPO goes forward. So they've now got someone in the big chair financially and now we wait to see what happens Now. Like I'm, I'm really excited about what this means. I saw 2 two things on that one was the dude the dude who created runner. I saw a believe what you see on social media, I suppose, but he was talking about how he literally to get to Strava like that was their goal and to get to Strava and to get even just an intro. He was just continually emailing
random. He was trying to get the CEO yeah of Strava. So he just kept trying different emails really until one clicked. That's clever. It's him talking in the thing. Don't know how much truth it is to it. The second thing is we know. Yeah, like that's business, right? Yeah, They're building it up to create something. What has happened every time a social media account has had to monetize 'cause once you go public, you're then accountable to shareholders. And what's the one thing
shareholders need? Profit, revenue, profit. Yeah, it actually it it's it becomes not so much about the product is returning. And what is every single app social media style app done to create profit? Ads. Ads. Not a bad thing. Advertising is not a bad thing. It can ruin things and it has ruined things, but it's not a bad thing. I, for one, we talk about it on, you know, hey, if there are any advertisers that want to come on
board, we'll take them. I mean, just the other week you, you ran me through that list of running brands that I hadn't heard of. And I'll, and I'll be honest, when you did that, that was probably about a month or two ago, you ran me through the these list of Europe of running brands and I hadn't heard of most of them. When I went down to Sydney, I got mocks and people like were like what? You've been out of Sydney for too long. The fact you haven't heard of
all these brands. But I think with the running space, I'd love it if I was had the ability to be tailored some suggestive advertising because I think running's because I love running. I'm passionate about it and I think I have the ability to discern what would be of value to me. Can Strava provide that if they start bombarding the platform with ads? I don't know, but I'd certainly be open to the idea. And I'll and put it this way, how much money we got in the
joint account, Courtney? How much money is there in the in the In the Beginning podcast? Account I'm not going to mention. We're buying Strava, we're buying Strava shares. Hey, what did you say about Sydney? When I was down there, I got mocked by people for not knowing about certain running brands. Yeah, let's, let's talk a little bit about Sydney. Brisbane. Not so. Emergency Department. How can I help you? I love it here. Let's see. Symptoms twitching, delusion. I love the sweat.
Always sweat, I love this humidity all of the time. OK, just relax. You've got movers remorse. Did you move from Melbourne to escape? 5:00 AM. Everyone's up running, walking, swimming and it's only winter. I hear the sun comes up earlier in summer. We've got another one. You should have read the handbook before migrating.
OK well it clearly states that Brisbane is under the rule of the Aztec sun God. Turn a tear whereby you must self sacrifice each morning at sunrise through exercise to keep the sunshining here. I'll write this down for you. What happens if I don't? The whole place floods here, what do I do? You exercise at sunrise like the rest of us, or you go back down South next? Who was that? That was the IOC.
It's sorry, some context. Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy Rees, he was being the Brisbane not so emergency department call centre. Yeah, there it's I love Jimmy Ree's people. Some people have their parents who've got younger kids might remember him from Hoot and Giggle. Yes, he was Jimmy Hoot on that. On the on the money though, around. The that's so spot on. The idea that you move up here and you go, oh, we love the sunshine and then it gets into
the summer months. I remember the first year I was up here and I only thought about this after I saw this clip. I have acclimatised. I don't sweat nearly as much as I used to in the humidity here. I'm I've I've adjusted I I can. See how it happens. I mean, you've just spent 2 or 10 days in bloody Indonesia. I didn't adjust. Like, that's a nut. That's the next level, right? And then another level. Yeah. So you, like, it was 27, I think the day before we left here. Yeah. Get there.
Try and have a jog mate. Did you jog at all? I spent a lot of time on treadmills. Yeah, right. Some really nice treadmills. I was in the the hotel fitness centres with views and everything else. But I was on holiday so like I was sleeping in family time and all that. So I got when the day got to when I needed to run. It was just sometimes. Hot, hot.
I just jumped in. I'm facing that a little bit at the moment because we've talked about this before, but I'm on pro hours because of the radio show. But today, for example, it's almost it's, you know, the Today the forecast is tops of 26. I think it's starting to get really warm in the, you know, around midday for me running at that is. You know, tough of the tan you're gonna get. Shut it off, shut it off.
Shut it off, shut it off. Hey now, we've talked about your terrible memory a bit on this and the Courtney Atkinson Museum. When you pass on and we open it up will be it might be empty in some stretches just because you can't remember anything that went on. But I think we brought this up on a previous episode and I wanted to share this audio because the one end of the spectrum from a sports memory perspective, we have Courtney Atkinson. Which is 0.
This is from one from a scale of 1 to 10. From a scale of 1 to 10, let's put you into one. You do remember some things. And if anybody missed the Noosa series episode that dropped earlier in the week, Courtney did remember something. Somethings about the Noosa trash. Do you know what?
For those who have who haven't tuned in yet to the Noosa episodes, the next thing when we get Dan Atkins, Matt Houses coach back in, I'm going to give him a week of my training diary from when I had one move so previously and then see what he thinks of it. Well, one, see what he thinks of it, but two actually then go like I want to know what is different now? Mileage, What would he change? Like he, he's not going to give us every secret in the book, but
he's pretty open, right? Yeah, no, Dan's been amazing and and so I love that exercise. So this is a this is a winner from 2007, 2000. What did you join 2? 1007 later than. That what did you join? Didn't you win 2000 and. Seven, you interviewed me. I've forgotten already. No, I was all around 2:10. I think so. 2000 and so a winners training diary from 2010 versus what a potential winners diary of 2025 looks like. Yeah, that's really cool. Looks.
So that's going to start. The next episode with Dan, that's how we'll start. All right, there you go again. If you're already in the NUSA Tri series, jump into it a lot of fun. So at one end, at the at a one on the sports memory spectrum, we have Courtney Atkinson. I'm putting this bloke on a 10. This is the pointy end of the sports memory spectrum. Sean McVay, if you don't know who he is, he's the head coach of the LA Rams in the NFL.
And this is him being basically asked about plays he's called in games from years gone by. You're unbelievable. Now we are going to go to this is Sean Mcveigh's time in Washington. So we're bringing it back to 2015 Week 7 bucks at Skins second and seven on the Tampa Bay, 2458 seconds left in the fourth quarter. Jamieson Crowder wheel route down the right sideline. Jamieson Crowder wheel route down the right sideline S the first down and then how did that drive end?
Jordan Reed touchdown in a four by one individual ISO slant. And what meme was that game? You like that? He's real. Good. Check out the brain on Sean. Amazing. So he did that a few times. I've just cut it down. So by comparison, try and remember, if you're listening to this, try and remember what you had for lunch two weeks ago. On any given day, Sean McVay is remembering a play that he called in the fourth quarter of a game from maybe 8-9 years ago when he wasn't even the head coach.
He was the offensive coordinator of that team and he can remember the play, he can remember the result of the play, and he can remember the meme that the resulted from that game. Yeah, so that one, I mean, obviously there was a meme. So it was the play was a big play. There's 2 plays in there, but he had prior to that, in that same kind of interview, done that three times or two times up to it. So he did 3 for three. Different plays. LeBron James can do that a bit
too. LeBron James can remember plays from like, remember games from his career and you know. So do you reckon endurance sports versus football or like football, basketball, team sports like that you need a different memory? Maybe, maybe it's maybe it's got to do. Yeah. In endurance sports, you need the ability to forget. You need to turn the memory off. That's the key, Yeah, actually. Don't want to be? Thinking in endurance sports, you want to forget. In those sports you want to
remember. Yeah, there we go. Well, you know, it was brilliant. And when you sent me that one, I thought, holy hell, that just sums me up in a because I like really, what do I remember? So this is what I've worked out. I remember when something, you know, is more unique, something out of the ordinary happens. That's got nothing to do with the ordinary of what would have been in a race. So like, I can remember maybe
like a crash. I said, oh, when I lost my sunglasses on a roundabout, right? Like I had plenty of crashes. But I remember that one because of that reason. Just the results just all blend, all blend. Hey, I'm up in Seoul now. This is a little, this is a bit of a heated debate 8 because we've talked about this, I think we've seen it in LA over in America. We we obviously have seen it in Sydney, you know, Gold Coast, pretty big shirtless running
population. I was just encouraging you to go out shirtless to get a bit of a tan, which probably isn't Sunsafe should mention. Slips up, yeah, slips up. But ever in Korea, they're around some of the biggest parks. Running's becoming such a big boom that the council, I assume, or the the city are banning and putting up guidelines around prohibiting 1 shirtless running 2 clapping and cheering for other runners, which we've mentioned on the Gold Coast here running in large groups and
shouting at pedestrians make. Way, Yeah. What do you reckon this park so runs? They've used what? Who did the We'll ask Matt about this when we get Matt. Hauser and they the Queensland, the road and transport, yeah, that is. Queensland Road and Chapel because they're saying here you should be running safely in two lines because the park's for everyone. So Australia is, is guilty of being a bit of a nanny state on a lot of stuff, right?
Our occupation like and like health and safety really important. I'm not disputing that. I also think there are certain rules that we shouldn't have to put in place because common sense should just prevail. I would hate to see rules brought in for running around. No, no, no. But, but, and, and I don't like this because because it tells me a couple of things. It tells me that the government is trying to dictate the way people exercise, which I don't like.
But it also tells me that the runners themselves have been carrying on like twits. Like if the fact that they've brought in these rules means that the runners have been behaving in such a way that people are complaining now, it's not hard to run and not get in people's way and not make like. So here's here's a question for you What do you call or say to someone if you're running around Burley Hill or through flays? You like your new flays? Look.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The path's only wide enough for two people. You've got 2 walkers in front of you. What's your? Call so OK, I love this. These runners know this. I love this. So they they they said shouting make way no who The Who says? Yeah, I know. I mean, aside from a royal being announced into a room. So what I do, because I don't like interrupting people, what I will do if I'm coming up from behind them or even if they're approaching me from the opposite way, I deliberately start
scuffing my feet. Yep, to make noise. I. Think that's a good? Move so I scuff my feet to make noise, allowing them to hear it without me being intrusive. Giving them a chance, Giving them a chance. Give them a chance. I give them first right of give way right by scuffing my feet so that they can hear me. OK, so they don't give way. And if they don't give way still too abreast that's I'm coming from behind or they're coming from front, I will slow.
I don't hold my pace. I slow and say sorry guys. Very much in that. Very sorry guys. You're a sorry guys. Yeah, type guy. Yep. I say sorry guys. And then when they move I said thank you with a wave. Curtis, you are about the back. And then roll on. It's nice. And I'll get very, I'll get very skinny. I'll turn side on like I'm trying to go through a, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little maze. Yeah. Get through one of the, what are you, burly gates? Yeah, Well, see, I'm just trying
to think. I do the scuffle. I definitely, yeah, I, I, I try and mate, especially in the trails, but again, on the road as well. But there's a bad habit because when you've grown up track running in athletics, you call track, you just say the word track. So like you're on a running, OK, you've done, you're on the track, you're doing a session, you've just finished a hard 400 and you're killed. You know, you've got a group of three or four. If you run that 400, you're keeled over.
Yeah, taking in big breaths. And then the 100 metre sprinters are coming down. Yeah, the straight track. Oh, that's what people shout at you? Yeah, like. 4 You know, like you're playing golf. Why the hell yell out for? I did not know this was a thing so. You're running track, so if you're running. So when I'm a lot of the groups I'm running with the habit of calling track, they do that running around Burley Headland, right? And which and which is when? Worse than Mike way when?
You when you talk about common sense. It's like track that means nothing. You'd look at them and go, what are you if you're an idiot? If I was walking on Burley Hill or any and someone yelled track, I would, I would be so confused. I'd be like what? What do you want me to do? Like where track means nothing? No, it's a good lesson actually. If you hear anybody shout track, they mean get out the way. If you're a person who's
shouting track, stop. Stop. Unless you're on anything else, unless you're on the track. Unless you're on the track. Yeah, yeah, you've just brought up a really. Interesting thing if you listen, what do you call? Let us know. I'm do I call out to get to get around? Do you know what? You know what? I'm looking. I'm trying to figure out what the origin of why Golfer Shout 4 is. Yeah, because. It's the same thing, right?
And then I mean, because in cricket 6, you know what's happening, you're going to get 6. The term four, Yeah. What is it as a warning may have roots in old Scottish where it meant look out ahead or was associated with the phrase clear the way. There you go. So it might be a Scottish word because that's where golf started. Track. Don't shout track.
Don't. It's again, we we've talked a little bit about this on the Gold Coast because of what happened along Hedges Ave with the runner and the bike cyclist and all the rest of that. Well, he just called Charge. Yeah, we didn't call anything. He was just a Dick about it. If you're running, it is beholden on you to make adjustments. Now if you find yourselves on a tight track, make as many adjustments as you can or find somewhere else to run like there's there's.
You're not devoid of places to run If you insist on running in high population high density areas, it is. I think the responsibility lies with you to make adjustments. It's not and and if we get to a point where Burleigh Hill or Bondi, because I know there's a running group in Bondi that's causing all sorts of issues, if we get to a point where these local councils are putting up signs because of the runners, we only have ourselves to blame. Yep, I'm still trying to think
what else? Do you call? I'm stumped as to what I would call because all I've got in my mind is. Track the cycling type call. Would it be like a runner back sort of thing? Because if you are on the bike the the cycle calls you her car back. To someone runner back. Coming through. What about this one? If you if you're running in a group and you're not calling out and someone's someone's walking towards you and you're going to warn the people behind you and you call Walker.
Yep. Yeah, great. So where for example, Azi Gordon's group at the Spit? But is that putting the Walker down? Like, hey, we're runners. No, Walker, I think there's a difference. I think there's different calls. If you're communicating to your running group as opposed to communicating to the people in front of you, really you shouldn't have to communicate. If people are coming towards you, as in you shouldn't have to be telling them, hey, I'm coming through. They should be looking where
they're going. I think if you're approaching someone from behind, you should be calling and giving them a heads up that you're coming through. But if, if, if people, if you're at the front of your running crew and there's something coming towards you. Eddie Gordon's example in the up at the spit on the trailer, bike up, runner up, walkers up and the people at the front call that for the people at the back. So everybody knows to move to the left hand side and running, running jargon.
It's running up, runner up, bike up, whatever, up, unicycle up. Why add the up? Meaning it's coming ahead. Oh, because. And then conversely, the runners at the back when a bike is coming through, we'll call that. Runner back. Bike back, runner back, whatever it is. OK, Yeah, it's. Cool. Let us know anyone. Yeah, if you, if you guys have actually, yeah, if you have a specific etiquette within your running group or where you run to let people know because I reckon the scuff is universal.
Everybody employs the scuff so they don't have to shout out. Oh yeah, in the in the truck. So you get real heavy feet. In the on bitumen or concrete, it's it's for my own like I want to get past like quicker yes in the trail I'm doing it for a completely different reason. I don't want to No, no, I don't want to scare the shit out of someone. Oh. 'Cause you. Oh. Yeah, you scare like you. Oh, you've I've had some beauties.
Just where? I try to do everything I can, but, you know, especially when there's like a little bit of a group, you know, maybe two or three people travelling at a bit slower speed, talking together and you're still trying to scuff and that nothing. Or if they've got. Headphones in headphones there's nothing you can do and then like suddenly you're there. It's happened to me too. Vice versa. Like I've had my headphones on a bot and a rider. Yep, right.
Up on me, but that's on you, that's on me. If you've got headphones in and you get scared by somebody because you can't hear them, that's on you. 100% I like that's a good running chat. 100% that's I like that one. OK, this this one's from Lucas. Now I actually have no idea what this is, but I'm going to play it. Hi guys, love the potty. I have finally caught up on all the episodes since I started listening.
Talking about race events, I just ran the City to Bay on the weekend and it probably wasn't the best run event considering how big it is in Adelaide. The finish zone was in a different spot because of Rd works and stuff but my main gripe with it was no net time. Basically the.
Time that was published on the website was the time from when the gun went off to when you crossed the finish line, which meant some people were missing out on pay base because it took them 5-6 minutes to get across the finish line. Just wondering what you boys think about that. No net times at a massive running event with probably 10,000 people. That's really interesting. Full disclosure, and you won't know this. That's my cousin. How you doing, Lucas?
That is, yeah, that's my cousin who is a fan of the pod. I'm Did you pay him to? No. I didn't. I didn't. I hadn't even seen that did. You take that out of our Kitty. So we're getting messages. Yeah, we're down. No, I, I hadn't actually seen the the comment. I'm just jumped on city debate and I'm having a look and he's right. There's only the start.
So there's not an adjusted. Time, there's no adjusted time and I don't know whether you got one of those individually, but like Izzy, Bat Doyle ran this, she would have been off the front. So it probably doesn't matter for Izzy, but I'm looking through and well. It makes sense if you've got 10,000 people there. Like going off Gold Coast stats, what do they say? We get A? They get 1000 on memory A. 1000 people over the line a minute. A minute, you could be 10 minutes. Yeah, be both here.
You better. You gotta do better there. It's a big run that surprises me because that's the city of the Bay is where I broke 90 for the half a couple of years ago. And I feel like I had a. You might have had You might have been quicker than you thought. Oh, maybe. Or did you did? You did you even better. You just straw the time. No, no, no. I got an. I got the official time. That's really interesting. OK. Yeah, baby. Come on. See you, babe. You're a big race. You gotta do better.
Than icon bullshit on that one Lucas. That's a definitely. Hey, let's can we move on to injuries so people might remember during our Gold Coast in the beginning runs of the Gold Coast Marathon series, we had a special episode where we sat down with a couple of physios from Southern Cross University. Yes, I forget the woman's name, but Gabe was one of the physios who jumped in with us. Mel.
Mel, thank you. We had Gabe and Mel who were great and we talked a lot about injury prevention, recovery, all that sort of stuff. Now Gabe has reached out because. Well, one of our questions too was how can people get involved in the studies to help you figure out for us how to improve our calves and. Achilles, that's right. That's right. Now Gabe has reached out because he's doing a study and he wanted
to put it out there. If anybody out there is is experiencing any of this stuff, we can provide the link, he said. Just in case you forgot, allied health professionals, strength and conditioning coaches and running coaches working with athletes with Achilles tendinopathy participate and represent your profession and country in this global survey. So if there's anybody out there that. You'll be a meta meta meta data
study. Yeah. And so if there's anybody out there that is currently experiencing some Achilles stuff, give us, give us all a hand here. We'll put a link, we'll put the link down and you can sign up and, and be a part of a a study and make you feel, it'll make you feel like a real runner if you're participating in a medical study on possible injuries. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, makes everyone feel good. Hey look that my school's comment from when I was away and we were online together.
That's why not if you missed. Has it been all positive? I haven't really been across. The most part, I think it has the if if you if you from to take you back to the last episode, you we were talking about the idea of running in schools and you were we joked about the idea of Courtney bringing in the hard line running coaching as in start running, get running, don't. Compulsory running, Compulsory running, Compulsory exercise. Compulsory exercise.
They're not just. Running and, and, and not allowing kids an easy out from running, basically, not because not to bully, but because it's good for them, right? It's like encouraging your kids to eat their veggies. It's good for them. You do it because it's the right thing for them to do. Being a bit harder, bit of a harder taskmaster with kids at schools might be what they need.
We were joking about this. This just wasn't Courtney something, but we've had a lot of people reach out about it. Just a couple of comments to share with you, Courtney Nick Stone with regard to the last episode with kids at school and cross country. I think it's more than just running kids at school and sorry, he said. I think it's more than just running.
Kids at school are not learning how to be uncomfortable, whether it's through hard exercise such as running or being able to be bored, brackets without a screening, cars and buses, etcetera. We are letting kids only ever feel comfortable so when things go wrong they can't handle it. I found Park Run has really helped my kids tolerance with a lot of other things in life. Keep up the great work. That's from Nick Stone. Interesting, interesting.
But we know Park Run does, you know, it's, it's great for adults. But this is, I wonder why Park Run haven't got involved in schools. I wonder why the Park Run organisation with all the good they do for health and exercise? I guess volunteer run. You think about the individual park runs, they're volunteer run. Yeah, they are.
But I mean, just because it's such a well oiled organisation that has such a good, has such goodwill now with that name to take that in, to take some type of system like that into a school system that can be replicated across the country. Just wonder why this hasn't been implemented.
I don't know. I love the idea that Nick has taken his kids and made and not made them, but got them involved with Park Run and the fact that he's found that it's helped their tolerance with a lot of other things in their life. It could be anything, right? It doesn't have to be run like we. Don't have to get stuck on running. But we, you know, we're running podcasts. Yeah, but kids, kids run.
I mean schoolyard play, right? This idea of learning how to be uncomfortable is a really interesting notion from Nick here. And oh, look, I'll take you inside for a moment because I think that, yeah, it's quickly jumping ahead to my run week. This week I busted out the Nike Alpha flies that I haven't used because I basically had wore them. Yeah, wore them. I'll jump ahead here. I wore them because they're still sitting there. I've had them for almost a year
now. I've had probably had them for over a year now. And they were sitting there and I joked that I didn't feel worthy of wearing them. The truth is I didn't really have a need to wear them. I wasn't going out, but I thought what like, what are they doing? They're going to drop a new model. Just just take them for a bloody run and I put them on and I thought to myself, let's go and see what you can do for a 10K, right?
OK, you didn't injure yourself. No, I didn't injure myself good, but I got 2 KS into this thing and I did a warm up and I was probably and I'm like this is hard. Like I was running for the first two KS of this. I was three 55350 bucks and I was running like this is hard. And then after two KS, I walked for two minutes and then I turned it into basically an interval kind of efforts. So I did another two KS and then and I thought in my head, I'm thinking this is I'm going, I'm going.
I've bailed on this session because it got hard. Now I didn't plan it. There's a whole bunch of organisational things. It wasn't great training, but I quit because it started to get really hard. Could I have just gripped my teeth, bit down on the mouth guard and and pushed through and seen where things end up, even if it wasn't the result I was looking for? And it's that notion of what Nick's talking a little bit about here, about kids and showing them that it's you're
not always going to win. Yep. Sometimes it's a goal of the session though, because you've also got to know when and and and I suppose that's what with with younger kids. Yeah. You haven't got the maturity or or the experience to understand and know when it's too hard and when it's not. You know, you'll learn that over time and not just running in in life, right. So I think that's where the kids side come in. You may be actually like, this is too hard. I've got to be smarter than
this. Yeah, but now you've bloody broken the egg open. What? I mean your first K in them. Oh, they're amazing. They're amazing. And was that first K like? That's under 4 minute, K yeah, under 40 minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, K pay. Yeah, yeah. No, they're amazing. Were you like, Gee, this is well, I put these on and. I am, yeah. I remember the last time I felt like that running them. Do you know what it felt like? The Chinese shoe?
Yeah, right. Like in a sense that I loved running that lot of response, a lot of getting a lot back, energy return, bounce. And they felt the same thing. Yeah. And I was. And although I felt far more self conscious running in the Nike Alpha Flies than I did in the Chinese shoe, 'cause they just. They're the bright green ones with the big sort of burnt orange coloured sole and they stand out. Sorry you were more self conscious than. Hell before, Yeah, yeah.
That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, because I feel like that's a much more recognisable shoe and I felt the weight of expectation running in those shoes, self expectation. But great. Love them and I'm really excited to run more and train more in them. Yep. And the other takeaway, and I remember Benita talking a little bit about this, about the fact that the Super trainers in those super shoes, whilst they are more taxing potentially, they're also their ability to recover
quicker from hard sessions. I think if I'd run that session in another pair of shoes, I'd be a lot, I'd be more sore today than I am. So I'm, yeah, great shoe, a lot of fun, really exciting to run in. Keep an eye out for me and my bright green Alpha flies and.
Tough it out. Round chickens and I've got to harden up. Hey, quickly, just going back to the school thing for a minute because we did get another message from James Andrew about the school stuff and he is a high school PE teacher on the Gold Coast. Courtney, he said, I can't agree more. He said you can come and use your hard ass approach on his sports, excellent students whenever you want. He's given some information about where they train and what
time. So you have got an open invitation there to go and take a hard ass approach with some of the sports excellent students. Threw the invite back because we actually run very similar to where we won't mention where it is with the kids but on the same day at the same spot we actually run half an hour. Late. There you go. So you never know it all could it all could meet up. I love that that. 'D be fantastic. I've got one here. I just want to give a while. We're on listeners.
Ben Tennant sent us a video and it was windy. Now the reason it was windy, so I'm not going to play the audio was he was out sweeping the Ultra X England course. So I'm tip I'm I'm assuming this is a fell run in the peak. Yeah, it would be in the Peak District. So what? A fell. A fell. Run. What's a fell run? Oh geez, I'm going to get called
out big time on this. So in pretty much running over the the hills in the countryside in the muddy Weddy regions of OK, like I think around Leeds some I don't know enough information. All I know is one day I want to go and run and experience it. OK, So think of like cross country trail running, but it's just over the fells, from my understanding is over the hills, right? OK. He was wearing a pair of Solomons. They held up well. He talked about he was in waterproof pants.
Oh yeah. It must have been shitty and cold, but he was doing it. Cleaning up the course, pulling down the flags and everything else while listening to yourself called the Suns versus Brisbane. Oh, no way. Yes. No way is he an Aussie or is he just interested in a F? Li have well sure, he's an Aussie. He has to be in too many to be. Listening to the Sun's Lions call, you'd have to be Australian. You're just influencing. No, I don't some overseas. Although I did have a good good
call. I've just done a quick Google. What was his name? Ben Tennant. Ben Shout out Ben. Thank you mate. I'd never thought. I love my job but I never thought my I would have a crossover point in my career where a bloke sweeping an ultra would be listening to me call fully that is. That's incredible.
I've done a quick Google. Fell running, also sometimes known as hill running, is the sport of running and racing off road up over upland country where the grading climb is a significant component of the difficulty. So your spot on Courtney? The name arises from the origins of the English sport on the fells of northern Britain, especially those in the Lake District. Oh, there you go. Absolutely smashed it. Now I've watched watched plenty of YouTube clips and videos on
this type of thing. And when I raced back when I was like, I suppose around London Olympics and that when I was racing the Brownlee brothers, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what they grew up doing. Yeah. That's how they that's how they that's, they run that that was their easy. Like it's interesting because we talked about this a little bit about Aussies. You know, we on the Gold Coast, it's hot, it's hard, you know, get out in summer and train.
On the flip side, now there's a question, is it, is it hard to get out where it's hot and steamy and humid or, or to get out and train? Or is it actually harder when you're living in a place like like Leeds or, you know, somewhere up in the Northern Lakes districts where pretty much every day is going to be freezing cold, windy, rain? You got to ride your bike. Well, there's a does that. Toughen you up more than the heat. Well, there's a hypothetical. It's an answer.
You can never. It's that whole thing of like they won. So you could probably argue, but would they have won by more if they'd grown up in the heat? It's that the idea of one of those unanswerable hypotheticals, Although I think there was some weird experiment whether someone might have tried it back in the day of like if you took identical twins, separated them at birth. This is a hypothetical. I'm not going to do it and put one in with a an impoverished family, put one in with a well
to do family. Do they grow up to achieve similar things or divergent nature, neutral, that sort of stuff? Environment. If you took is involved, how much of an environment or is it just if discipline is disciplined and if you took the Brownlee brothers and raised them here on the Gold Coast, they. Still would have been bloody good. Yeah, yeah.
But then as you were just talking about all that, then the Brownlee brothers doing that fell running, Andy Buchanan talks about Falls Creek and Bendigo and all that sort of running. And then you look at I'm going to forget his name. Who's the UTAUT MB weapon? Tom Evans? No, the Killian Jenna who grew up cross country skiing and climbing mountains. You know, so there is something if you needed any more evidence that he'lls pay the bills. Yeah, it's right there.
I know you want to get to a new event that is coming, but can I just quickly I actually. Don't really, but I'm going to bring it. Up. OK, quickly. I want to. I had a moment. I was at Riggs Recovery in Karamen. I started going there a little bit trying to use it a bit more. I had a massage a couple of weeks back and the person M at I had a massage at Riggs said do you do much sauna? And I was and I said no, I don't. She's like, I think you would
benefit from it anyway. So I'm trying to embrace sauna a little bit more at the moment. I don't know. She just said she was. But you did your first thing is like. Why? Why? Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I'm trying to do a little bit more sauna at the moment and I was in the sauna just the other day at Riggs and got chatting with this guy who I don't. Know where this is going? No. No, no, no, no, no, no. He told me that.
He, I said we were just having chat, he's moved up from Melbourne and he was talking about the fact that he used to run ultras and race Iron Man and all that stuff. And I went and I hadn't said anything about my athletic stuff or this or anything. He just started telling me I'm like, oh, this is going to be an interesting conversation because I said to him, I was considering that 100 Miller at UTA next
year. And he said when he's done 100K race, I want to get your thoughts on his training regime. This is what he told me. He said the longest run he did ahead of his 100K run was 19 kilometres. That was the longest run he went for. It must this on the short side. Very very short side. What? He said he was doing and this is his technique. He was going in down and and sauntering himself to the point of dehydration and then
training. He was taking himself to the point of feeling like maybe he'd put 60 to 70 KS in and then training. Each to their own, but that sounds bloody dangerous. I don't. I didn't. We do not advocate that, no at all. I he told me that and I just kind of nodded and smiled and went wow. So there's, I mean there's different measures.
I mean the whole, not to that extreme, but before the Tokyo World Champs has been on in the whole Australian team are up in Cairns training to try and heat acclimatise now before a real hot Olympics or a major championship. You'll get guys there's there's heat chambers in Canberra at the AIS, There's probably some around the Gold Coast as well, somewhere where you know the treadmills are set up.
You can change all the environmental factors and do your training in there to acclimatise, but it's done for specific reasons in. Controlled. In controlled environment. Purpose but. Yeah, you know, and maybe there might be something behind once every so often putting yourself in that uncomfortable position, but. But as you. As a training method, I yeah, Like, we're not, we're not advocating that at all. Absolutely not.
Very interesting. I didn't, I didn't think you were going to go there with that. I don't know where you were going with it. You started as we were. I promise next time I'm telling you about me and a man in a sauna, I'll give you a heads up next time. Well, not too far. Dissimilar if I said to you the name Rhondelust. Rhondelust Rhondelust Fitness Festival. What? What, what? What do you think? What comes to mind?
What comes to mind? What it it feels Wonderlust is a What comes to mind with Wonderlust is it feels gay and lesbian. Mardi Gras, that's what, that's what. Because I'm pretty sure there's an event called Wunderlust. Yeah, right. I didn't think you'll go on there either. So. You asked me what came to mind. Two out of two. You asked me what came to mind. That's what came to mind, yeah. What is Runderlust? That's a good question, Liam. It's 57 days away.
It is Australia's first fitness festival like no other. Run as far as you can, as far as you like on A1 kilometre loop over 4 hours. You can do that solo or with your crew. Take on epic fitness challenges and vibe to live music, DJ sets or with a good party under the stars that celebrate fitness comedian good vibes. This is up in Noosa. I've heard about this. Yeah. So it's from the mob that. Isn't this up in Noosa? It is in Noosa.
Yeah. This is from the mob that do like, I don't know what they call it, luxury escapes, but for fitness people, gotcha, You know, like, you know, they take a few influences away. Yeah, I think Andrew, you know he's a Sydney, but paps, paps, Yep, that that style of training and they take people, people pay to go away. Do yo go all that stuff. That's my understanding. So this is their event. OK, Came across my desk a little while ago. I'm just.
I've just jumped on the website. Just be aware Red Bull's partner this. How did you see that it's? Runthelast.com dot AU Meet our partners LSKD Active Escapes, Dr Hydrate, RACV News Resort, Red Bull. Well, great. I'm not gonna change what I was saying. I know I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna edition. I wasn't gonna edition. I'm I'll just say it's an it's an interesting one. But no, what got me was I've had a few people send their in like
this. Their what do you call the sell the sales video like common experiences and it looks like I'm like that looks amazing, but this has never been on. So the content's just been cut together to get you like, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? So there's a highlight reel highlight when it's never happened. No. Wow, that, I mean look great marketing, well done. Are you interested? Well done. I'm having a look at it right now, it the highlight reel, the
cuts of it, it looks fun. It looks really fun. Run the Last is Australia's first fitness festival like no other. Run as far as you can on a 1K track over 4 hours solo hang. On, hang on, hang on. I'm going to backtrack what I said then because I'm just reading the thing. Welcome to run the last Fitness Festival 2. So it has happened, so maybe
they have done it before. And Abby Holmes, who I know through footy, not personally but I know through the AFL scene, she's involved with it. So I'm going to take that back. So it's a fitness I. Don't know enough about? Oh yeah. This is this appears to be an extension on the sort of the AG one night of the PBS, the LSKD chase the five. It appears to be an extension on that where you're running a bit further, but then you're
remaining in the area. Oh look, I'll be fascinated to see how it goes because I wonder if. How much is a ticket? How much would you pay? There's a question. Oh, here we go. So it's limited to 1500 athletes. That's solo run 7070 bucks. Oh, no, no. Oh yeah. And pairs run is 120. Yeah, but then you must pay for each because then it's the hybrid. The the hybrid SIM is 70 bucks, the dash 60 so you must pay per and the. Hybrid SIM is a high Rock, You can just.
Be a VIP for 300 and that must just get you OK the full whack 300 bucks, it's cheap right? So here's here's what I would say 70 bucks, I'm there. I'm doing that for 70 bucks. 70 bucks is a really accessible price to participate in something like this and 30 bucks is a get along and and hang out ticket. Really well priced, well done. Run the lust you've you've trying to create something new, trying to create some hype about it and you've made it affordable
and accessible. I don't know how much does Hyrox cost to enter because $70.00 for what appears to be run the last version of a Hyrox race. They're calling it the hybrid SIM, but it's it's essentially 81K runs with a bunch of activities in between it. I just did a quick Google, expect to pay over 100 to 200 U.S. dollars around 150 to 300 AUD. So you're paying half that to do a run the last version of High Rocks. Well done. Run the last. While you go. When's it on I?
Don't know. It's on the 22nd of November up in Newson. Should we? Should we go up? Oh, your Red Bull's a partner? Yeah, Yeah. You go there, OK. Well, I I would prefer to do the cut here. Oh, yeah. Is that the same way? I don't know. It's in. I think it's in November as well. 50K. Yeah, they take it. And do that. Too they cut down each lap, start with 200 or so, cut down a person or few each. One point 5K. Yes, I love the cut. They even give you a toilet.
Stop at 10 Ki here. Oh, that's so I can do that because that's the weekend before Noosa and I'm not going to be doing this year this year. So I can definitely go and do that. Should we do the cut this year? I would like to do the cut. Let's do the cut. We'll reach out to Steve. Is it Steve? Steve. Yeah. You can't remember, can you? Yeah, but I would no, we'd pay to do the. Cut. We'll reach out to Steve. No. Yeah, we'll reach. Out to Steve, we support local
events. Then we would I will pay to go along and participate. I quickly if you're following the footy today, Brisbane to win Norm Smith battle Will Ashcroft, he'll go back to back. Two years in a row. I think these guys starting to play great footy at the right time again, if the Lions get on top and this becomes a free
flowing end to end game. Will Ashcroft's ad Lib style of football is set for September. He showed the last year and I think he just attracts the eye when he's playing great football I think and then suddenly this is a 23 year old kid with two Norm Smiths and two premiership medallions and he goes to another stratosphere. There you go. You heard it from the from the X, from the X Triple M commentator. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, it's good to be back. It's going to be back.
It's always better that way. And if you haven't, listen Dan Atkins coming up and like I said, I'm going to start comparing some training sessions. So for those who are interested in training, yeah, have some info now quickly. Before we do go, I've got one more thing. I need you. I need you to make it. I need you to put your name to something. Courtney Atkinson. OK, what are we doing? Because I've just made an investment and I need to know that I'm not, I haven't.
I'm not already dated by the cool kids. OK, so clothing. Yes, it's clothing based salomons. Yes, I've invested in a pair of the Ace AG, SS, ACS, ACS. The Comfy St. Because the XT6 is my fat, my fat feet don't fit into them. Are your inmate where them into the office. They haven't. They're not uncool yet. No. OK. They're going like. Hotcakes, they're not dated. I don't want to be. I don't want people to make fun of me for having. Not dated.
There's it's still, it's still surprising me how many people are wearing around Solomon. I haven't worn them. Yet to the shoes. OK, wait them in the office mate. Every 25 year old you walk past it is going to go at least. As long as the 25 year olds think I'm cool. When you get a head nod, you'll know. What's going on? Righto There you go, enjoy your weekend and we will see you next. Week. See you next week.