In the beginning, episode 56, we are back Courtney. First thing we need to do is apologise to the triple figure white community. We've got that that episode. If you haven't listened that episode we that we dropped on Wednesday for the Noosa Tri series. With Justin White, the Clydesdale. The white. White by name and white by nature. The Clydesdale. He's been called out, hasn't he? Hasn't he?
92 KG doesn't cut. It the 100 plus club have come for Justin. He he started saying there is a 90 to 100 a hundred plus and the 100 plus club have pretty much come in and said no. Well, I need to give a specific shout out to Beau Jones, one of the great We've spoken about Beau previously and bottle it and the the charitable organisation that he runs. You'll see. If you've ever been to a triathlon, you might have seen one of the athletes getting around in the floral kit.
Bo Jones has been sharing the stories from that episode. Yes, the outrage, he said. My DMS have lit up. This is not real Clyde's style. I think the message he used is for those athletes that make the grounds shake when they run. Make the paths. Make the make the foot paths shake when they run this sub 100K nonsense. They are not true Clydesdales. What's in? What do you reckon he weighs in it? Oh, Bo's over 100. Bo's are big. Like he's in he's in the yeah Bo would be 65I reckon 6465 and
he's solid. Yep, real solid fellow SO. You know, we've been calling, so I did get a message from our our #1 fan Ryan Kelso as well saying Armada Marathon. Yes. On board they're going to do the weigh insurance on he's hoping to do the weigh insurance on stage Oh do it Yep but his wife said it should be equal you can't have women 80 men at 100 it's got to be she's she's concerned that he's going to get cancelled before he even gets it off the ground for being. For being unequal here.
For not being. What do you reckon at that call? It should be 100 hundred. I mean, look, we get into physiological things here where it's physiologically women are lighter than men. So I understand what Ryan's. Trying to do all a bit of fun here. We just love the fact that you know, we, we know it is harder to run when you are a, a larger person. Well, let me get into this right now. I want to get this. You don't know about this yet, but my T-shirt might give something away, Do you?
What can you see here? I can I I can see a Puma. Yeah, right, I am. And time of recording or the OR the date people might be listening to this will be the Saturday the 18th of October. On Monday, yes, Ned's uncomfortable challenge kicks off Ned Brockman's. He does it through Puma. He created this obviously Ned famously getting uncomfortable doing these various challenges. Puma, one of his major partners, he created this thing with them.
Ned's uncomfortable challenge runs for 10 days, encouraging people to get out there and make themselves feel a bit uncomfortable. And does he have a Clydesdale class? Well, he. Should have a Clydesdale class in a uncomfortable challenge. That's the way I thought you're going. With me, No. What I want to ask you because needs reached out and said you're gonna get involved this year and I said sure, sure, send me a pair of the Puma deviates as well with the carbon in them. What are they?
They're they're race. Shoes. They're the they're probably the Puma equivalent of the Boston twelves. Yeah. So that's kind of your your tempo trainer. Yeah, really fun to run in. A bit envious of you, you, you seem to be getting a lot more free shooted out of this podcast than I do. You got you got a pair of Nike Alpha flies there. Now you're copping some Pumas. I tell you what, I'm actually seeing Ned next week. I'll. I'm I'm OK, I'm OK.
No, no, but I am a bit jealous. Like a lot of free snappies blowing you away. The reason I bring up Ned's uncomfortable challenges because I said, Yep, I'll get involved and I do want to get involved because I think it's good fun. The thing for me is though, distance isn't uncomfortable, right? I can we can go out and I and it's more kind of I'm not, I'm not time rich. I don't because of the kids and work and everything else.
I don't have a lot of time on my hands, but I do want to challenge myself now, the thing I want. Can I take a guess? Oh, here we go. Are you going to do something around ice bath? No, every day. No, I could do that because I think that's. Probably the most uncomfortable thing I can. That is uncomfortable, yes. What I'm going to do and this was my idea and I've I've hit a stumbling block. This is where I need your help.
Stairs. Yep. Oh OK, Yep, this was my plan and I'll tell you what, the hurdle to this was 10 days for the Ned's uncomfortable challenge. I wanted to tackle the Karumbin stairs, you know the ones where the alley Crime and Ally is and there's the stairs that go up. I, I I don't know that, but I've heard I've heard plenty of problems around those stairs. So then there's people that you look out down over Elephant Rock. Sorry, no, not Elephant Rock, because Elephant Rocks back up
nearby. No, I know. I know what you mean. You look back down the coast, that's it. Why I say problems is there's walkers verse runners issue like Miami. Yes, this was my plan. Every day during Ned's uncomfortable challenge. I do sets of those stairs based on Max temperature forecast for the day. Oh, so if it's 28, you're gonna do 20? 8 steps, that's what do you think of that?
Well, I think if you were to do that, yeah, you need to do what's the temperature at the time you go to do the steps, Because I know you're not in the morning. You you can't do this in the morning before the show, right at your radio show. So like if you got out at 12:00 PM in the day and it's 34. Look it up. Well, I think no, but I think that's the thing I've got to do Max the the maximum temperature for maximum day for the day.
So for example today, yes, forecasted Max is 26 OK, even though the temperature right now is 22. You you've got to do. That I've got to do 20. 6. It's a good challenge, uncomfortable challenge. Got a bit of a. Ring to it. Bit of a ring to it. Now here's the problem I have, though, and you might have already solved it. Crum and stairs. I went to check them out the other day. Yeah, they've been demolished. There's work being done, so I need another set of stairs.
Gold Coast. Now, is Miami challenging enough? No, because they're not that big at Miami. They're grey, they're colourful. 2820. Eight sets 20. Eight sets of those stairs. There's still a fair bit of steps, but where I was going was this morning. I'm not going to say exactly where I was, but I do have an uncomfortable challenge for you. OK, go. How does more 700 metres of elevation straight uphill?
Sound at a time, yes, sounds. Sounds like I'm not doing 28 sets of it. No 7. 100 metres, you weren't uncomfortable, it's probably a little bit as high, hard. For you how? How long? Hold on. So this is 1. 11-UP. What was your distance? In just under 5 kilometres. Wow, that's Oh well, you said hills. You want a. Hill And I'm like, so how long did that take you? 5 KS. Well, I, I had a bit of, I put a bit of weight on my back this
morning. So that's where I was thinking maybe you could go somewhere with maybe not 28 kilos. No, but that was going to be my alternative. But you could put some weight on your back and do and depending on what the day is and do something around that. So people, tell me what you think because that was going to be, that was my alternative plan. I was going to go and it was either going to be temp sets or
weight. So it was either going to be I have to do the amount of sets based on the temperature or that's how much weight I have to put on for one set. So if it's 28 I have to do 28 reps or I have to do 1 Rep but with 28 kilos on if. You're posting this on social media, you're going to get much better uptake if you put weight on. Ohh really? I just think it's. More the will OK, more impressive. Tell me more about this.
Rock, You went on more more impressive to me putting weight on. Especially after the Wednesday episode. Like, it just looks good. Yeah, You probably hit the high rocks crowd, you know, like there's a thing. And now I'm, I'm, I'm joking, but I this is what I did this morning. I put 10 KG on my back and then did a little bit of a hike. I I've been down at the Hunter Valley for the week. And I mean running like you actually probably running.
I thought I'll just give my day, just give myself a a bit of a a day off. Yeah, a day off running. And I've been, you know, I'm on home on the coast, got a bit of time. So remember I was talking a little bit about the UT MB, how the the two winners and their coach up the uphill training coach plays around a lot with rocking. And when I say rocking, it's like putting weight on your back.
Instead of running up the hill, you actually just hike up and your muscles are taking a lot more of the load. So I've been playing around a little bit just to get just out of interest in getting a feel of it. Now here was my problem Liam and I was walking up this trail this morning when I'm saying walking, I'm power hiking up this trail this morning and I would have been about 35 minutes in. You know, it's it's pretty solid work. So this. Is with 10K on that well you?
Think you guys 7 It's 700 metres avert in just under 5 kilometres. So if you go back down to Kanani, it's probably steeper than what? You'll see it and with 10 kilos in your back. Yes, I'm walking along and I look down and there's a little whip snake, I reckon. Oh, right under my feet am I? I danced. I danced like a ballerina. I danced. The problem is my calves. Oh no. And oh, it was like, oh, no, no, I'm OK, I'm OK, but the snake nearly put an end to my running
again. I, it felt like I, you know what, like if you did plyometrics and you've got to do a box jump, it was kind of like that. But I've got 10K, I've got the extra weight on my back and I've gone to just, I've just automatically gone into protective. Mode. Yeah, slight mode and. Off that calf that I, you know, previously had a bit of issues with. And I just was like, oh. And how's it pulled up to the snake? No, no, no. It's it's all good. I keep going.
I. Do like the idea that you turn up to your physio appointment saying I think I've torn my calf, I'll pick my calf. OK, Tell me what happened. Well, well, I saw a snake and then I jumped, but I also had 10 kilos on my back. Yeah, like probably doing everything you shouldn't be doing. How have you found the rocking exercise? How have you found that as someone who's tried a lot of
stuff? All I know is going if you're putting the weight on your back and you know, we've seen this probably more around like you see guys, you know, training, go to the military and you see a lot, I mean. Maybe. Is it the Murph challenge that a lot of the cross fitters used to do? Do they do it uphill? No, typically the mile they run in that is not is. But with a you, we've got a
weight vest. OK, so like if anyone's listening, just let's be really clear, I'm not advocating running with extra weight on flat ground. OK, no. No, you you think that that that's like putting. It's a waste of time. I don't know about the the physics of it is to me it's a recipe for disaster that you're landing with all that extra weight. The whole point of hiking up the hill with the extra weight is I'm not loading up on like gravity. So it's a purely A muscular
exercise. And look, I haven't done it. I don't. I don't. I haven't done enough to understand if it's effective or not. But then I take that weight off to come down, so I'm not carrying the weight the whole time. So you're doing the 5K, your five KS 700 metres vert with 10 kilos up, and then you take that weight off your back on the descent? Yes, right. That's interesting. So if anyone wants to go and find some lead at the top of Springboro. Yeah, you've left it up there.
No, it's water. It's water, it gets, it gets released. Oh, so you OK? That's really interesting again. So you've actually, because in my mind you've put a 10K plate. Yeah, and I'm just stocking all my old iron weights up the top there and then one day go and collect them in the car. No, no, no, no. So. You're putting 10 kilos of water. Yes. And is I'm. I'm about to show how is that just 10 litres? Yeah, OK. I don't know how much a litre weighs. Is it a kilo? Oh well.
I'm. Assuming it is, I don't know is is is is Creek water heavier than tap water? This is getting into that area of lungs, lungs and. Hold on, here we go. One litre does not equal 1 kilogramme for all substances. 1 litre of water has a mass of almost exactly 1K almost fine. OK, so we're we're tall then. Water's density is about we. Want to have a per litre? What about Creek water? Look, it doesn't give me. It doesn't give me that it's. Got a lot of, it's got a lot of
What do you call them? It's probably minerals. It's probably heavy. I'll probably carry 12 kilos, yeah. It's, I agree, I think you've done it with 12 kilos because it's Creek water, so. Let's go 12 kilos up the hill because I'm carrying Creek water. It's 700 metres of elevation. Yeah, I mean, that's just a nice. And how long did that take you walk in the forest? I think it was about and I'd have to have a look here, but I think it was about an hour up. OK, OK, 55 minutes an hour up.
We well, we can run up there, but. Elevation, The reason I ask about that is because, and I went for I had a light week last week, I really struggled to find time to run. And although I had been back at a gym and I'll tell you about talking, I think we're sort of we're in the area of some stuff I've been doing with that impact running specific stuff. But I went for a run and the
plan was to do some trail runs. The problem was the intended turn off into trails was blocked off by this bridge that we were planning on. We're going over Creek was blocked. So we ended up running the road. I did 27 KS and you know trees Rd. Yeah, I do know. I've ridden. It's a bike Rd. Yeah, it's not really a running. Road. It's not a running Rd, no around trees. Road 27 KS with about it felt like a lot more but 500 metres of elevation, that's a solid run. It was hot.
This was last Saturday. It was hot in the middle of the day. Look, I really enjoyed it, but it was a tough old run. Did you? I think I enjoyed it. I did. No, I did 'cause I hadn't run much. Yeah, although my hamstrings are still paying for a little bit at the. Moment I know trees well. We used to do cycling if it's up there. Well, as I was running along, there's no shoulder. No, no. But there's not a lot of, I mean, maybe there is now, maybe the valley.
But there I was running along and thinking, jeez, I'd love to be in the trail right now 'cause the running on the road is awful. Could you just tell the postman or the Amazon delivery closing stop coming right when we're recording? You know, it's an in the beginning podcast episode because the posties turn up to
deliver a package 100%. Hey, can I tell you a bit about these exercises I've been doing which I'm finding I've got something, I can't talk about it yet, but I've got something on the way that I'll talk about at a later date. It's part of motivating some of the decisions I'm making around the training I'm doing at the moment. Really simple exercise I've been doing at Momentum Gym, which I've just joined up here, Wade Lee's who I'm loving.
Listening to Wade talk and the way he talks about the exercise and the specificity of all the things he's doing and getting your brain switched on. It's great. I'm loving it. I feel it's a bit like when you start talking about the way you train, the way Wade's instructing all these courses, but really simple thing of stepping off a box or stepping off a 30 centimetre high and
catching. Yep. And that active activating my calf, like both calves at the moment, someone with calf history, The simple act of doing that, I'm not doing a lot of it doesn't feel like I'm doing a lot of heavy calf raises or anything like that. But this simple activity which we're doing quite a bit. I'm doing some back squats and some deadlifts and all the rest of that. So trying to get that strength through the glutes and the hammies as well and the quads.
But that step off and catch I, I feel like it's really my calves are responding, really. Well, you're getting sore after it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a really like. And it's not, it's not an onerous thing. It's kind of three sets of five reps of this thing, but it's something I've never done before, OK? There's no weight involved aside from my own body weight, obviously. But that activity of. And for people that can't quite understand just, you know, find a bench, a box, a seat or
something. And as you step off, it's the idea of not bouncing or moving forward or. It's sort of it. I don't, I don't have much experience. I can't, can't recall. Sure, I would have done it at some stage, but I can't recall it being a big, big part of my programme.
It's brought back memories of remember when Benita and as we're doing the Gold Coast Marathon series, yes, talking about switching your brain on in the warm ups and in your your pre run routine and the hops and all that sort of stuff and getting your brain. It's activating, yeah, activating both neurally and muscular. Yeah. And I'll be honest, neurally activating, I've even when people talked about it, I haven't taken it seriously. I haven't ever.
I've kind of rolled my eyes in my head about the idea of neurally activating now that I'm doing these exercises and why it's explaining all that sort of stuff. And even just the warm ups and there's a very specific warm up before we do whatever the set is at the gym. I get it. It's good having someone with it telling your stuff isn't it isn't a good one on one training I. Get it? Yeah, it's. And then yeah, I'm. I'm really. And look this is in a group setting, but who I? I'm a group.
Group or not, it's just the fact he's taking the time on one online to like go. Really explaining, Yeah, not in a patronising manner, but in a very specific and intellectual way. This is why we're doing these things, because this is what's happening inside your brain and your body and all those. And I'm getting a lot out of it. It's good for my running. Great.
Yeah, awesome. Hey, I was driving up to Southport. I say they find your Triple M company have finally taken on my advice and got you on some billboards. The market expense come out. Yeah, the market. I said this when you first said I'm coming to the coast. Yeah, I said mate, you've got to get on Bill. It's be to beat the competitors you need to be on. I need to be driving my kids to school and see Liam, Spider and and Lizel on a billboard. Yep. Now I've got some feedback
though. Oh, here we go. You're not big. Enough, you've got a me. Personally is this. Shot. Well, that too, you're a little bit smaller. Spider is 200 centimetres tall. That is true. No, all three of you are not big enough. As in the billboards, not big enough? No, you're not taking up enough space on the Billboard. It's too focused on empty space and a little and and the Triple M logo. OK, I need to see who I'm listening to and I don't think it's so the Billboard is good.
This is the one at Bundle Rd. Anyone on the Gold Coast listening? If you go up Bundle Rd at All Bermuda St, some people might call it kind of as you go Ashmore Roads up towards Pindara Hospital. Is it? It would be. I'm thinking it's 20 metres by 6 metres. the Billboard. Yeah, it's huge. And you are? Just not big enough. So can you I'll get on to your
marketing part. Yeah. So I'm not happy here's and for anybody that hasn't seen that billboard, Nick, keep an eye out for it because peek behind the curtain in that picture I am standing on. I think it was like 4 reams of paper. 3 reams of paper for the photo because honestly. Do you do you mean actually like blocks of printing paper? Blocks of printing paper because not 4 pieces. Oh no, no, no reams. I'm talking reams. Yeah, like for that photo,
Liesel spot is 200 centimetres. Liesel's in heels. Like it was without me standing on the paper. It was daddy bear, Mama bear, baby bear stuff for the photographer. So they had to go and get 4 reams of paper for me to stand on to make that thing look half decent. Yeah, it's good. It's good to see. Great to see you on the way to school. It's nice to see you more than when I'm in here. It's nice to see the marketing
spend happening taking effect. Can we talk a bit about one of the sporting events that's happening this weekend as we, as we put this episode where where marathon season's kind of behind us now to a degree. I mean, we've said goodbye to all the Australian major marathons, Melbourne marathon. But maybe just the marathons are gone. I'm sure they're and. Chicago, Oh, the Chicago. The men's record got a shake from Kiplum. He ran. He I think he went very close to
the world record. He ran through the first half in an hour or something flat. It was a very impressive run. Since most people have told me they don't care who wins a marathon anyway. I've you quite care, I don't care who isn't marathon, but well done I haven't. You know what? I didn't see many reviews of the Melbourne Marathon. I did have this down as a point. Oh well, let's get to it you. Want to go to the Melbourne? Yeah, we'll come back to the other event last.
Weekend, we'd said last week. I had made a point to say I just haven't seen a lot of advertising or social media or in general. It just wasn't the same as Sydney. Yep, it just wasn't thing. So you didn't see much on it since the weekend? I saw some bits but it no. Not not Did you see any brand? I saw a little bit of Nike stuff. I saw a little bit of Nike stuff. So it's a Nike race, right? It is the one that's not an ASIC
race. Yeah, but. I I didn't see a lot of brand activations around it that what it got into my feed anyway do. You reckon it's something to do do do Do you think it's got to do with her in Queensland? But when we see Sydney, so why wouldn't we see Melbourne? Running Victoria Man. Sorry, yeah, no, but that's what I mean. The fact it's down South in Melbourne and we. Are in Queens. That's why we we were fed less of it. But then and then I've just kind of thought in my head as I've
said that we see NSW. And we see a lot, Yeah, I don't know. Did you see much of it? No, no. The only thing I I did see was Louis Phillips, because I'd, yes, I'd literally being with him and then talking to him. So I, I copped his obviously my algorithm said, oh, you've been chatting and what did and what did what did his presence around it look like did was there. I know he ran it so well. He went under 250. That was his goal. So great.
Yeah, Congrats. But other than that, I, I, I just know he went under 250. That was my whole yeah, I don't. And he ran in, he got a like obviously Nike race, but he, I'm pretty sure he was in Adidas. He'd been sent a box of a gift box of Adidas. So he wore Adidas. Well, here's a question. You mentioned Louis, and I noticed, I saw because I saw him one of his posts as well, running in those. Let's talk about blokes running
in those pants. Oh, hang on, let's talk about it. OK, skins, hold on today. Yeah, OK, skins tight. Keep going, keep going, and I'll find what do you. Have you ever? I know you ran in, you raced in a suit. Oh mate, I'm I've I'm if you want to if you want some expertise on lycra. Right. What do you think? Triathlons where you can't. At what speed do those bike short pants style things become OK because I have trouble with them? I mean, the only thing I I'm like if I see bike shorts, I
think chafe. The reason I would run in a pair of tights, what are they called tights? OK, the Rea I would run in a pair of tights when I'm having trouble with chafe. Right. But I would never run in just me personally, I wouldn't go. I'll go and run in tights for any other reason than chafe. However there was. I mean, when it comes down to compression, yeah, there is some evidence on wearing compression around your quads that can help and same as calf socks or
whatever else. So a compression thing's different. But what I'm saying they're not, these aren't compression tights or anything like that. These are just people that is wearing like track tights. My because this is coming at it from a footballing perspective, it was always offensive if one of your teammates turned up at footy in winter and they were rolling the skins without shorts over the top. Like if you put skins on, fine, but put some modesty shorts on over the top.
Not for yourself but for the rest of us, right? And I think I I personally would like the same rule to apply at marathoning above a certain pace. Well, let's go through this because Angus Crisp sent me just crispy crispy sent me what your running shorts say about you Yes. Now this came from run later the the the account run later. I don't know who that is, but anyway, it'll turn off my volume. All right. What you're running is so split. We'll start with the split shorts.
The runner runs at least 80 miles a week. Hasn't felt shamed since 2014. We'll talk to you about glyco glycogen depletion at mile 22. Thighs out, ego up. Yeah, great. Have you ever do you run? Have you ever run? So I have not run split shorts since grade 9. Cross country do. You know who comes to me if we split shorts? You know what jumps straight to my mind? Craig Mottram In my mind, that's that level. Like real. That's the era taught. That's the level. But, you know, so I did.
More track. So I did look through this, yeah, more track, but I did look through this and these what I'm about to go through. And I actually disagree with a lot of this cause split shorts, if you think of those brands, some of those brands you didn't know that are trending split shorts are in. Are they 100% chewy? Mcswain's a a a split shorter it feels. More like he is. But then he wore. He's been wearing the tights. They're called half tights.
Half tights because I'm here of half tights. Deadly serious about training, Doesn't post every run because they don't need validation, Has a separate laundry load just for running clothes, runs in anywhere that despite how cold or hot and will not complain. Now I disagree really highly with this. I am thinking most people are wearing tights because it's on trend. I have an issue I think. I think this might be my biggest
issue in running right now. Half times I, I I if, if I. Could Is it because of the shervo package? Is that is that your issue with them? What's your? Issue, I just don't think they're necessary. Look, and that's and we know necessity is not the reason we do a lot of things in this life, but it's such an affront on your eyes for everybody else. It does feel good. Does it well, I've never worn them. That's coming from triathlon talk. Like wearing lycra. It looks shit, but it feels good.
It feels good. However, I believe I disagree with this highly. I believe majority of people are wearing them because it's on trend. It's it's, it's the thing to do at the moment. What? Performance value? Do they give you just like? Split shorts came in because it was a little bit more on trend. It was a track track thing. Here's what I'll say. Track Smith running. They're to blame. I wouldn't say they are to blame around split shorts. So I don't have a OK, let's just
let's isolate a few things here. This is a male issue. This is a man's running issue. We are going. There this is a apologies to all the female runners out there, you guys, I mean, this is just your running. Gift, but they've also probably got an opinion on this because it's if a guy's running correct you, what he's wearing in shorts does matter. I don't need to know which way you dress swing. I don't know. I do not know. You need to know if you go left,
right or up the middle. If you're running, if I'm running with you in a group or you're running towards me, I don't need to need to. I don't need to know what mood you're in, right? That's why I'm fine with split shorts 'cause there's some puff and some fluff and some wind effect. And split. Split shorts will nearly always have an inner. It's a bit of protection. The old the old parachute? Yep, the old netting. Yeah, get a bit netting.
I just don't. I think if we can, if, if I can have one running wish, it's that the trend of half tights goes away, yeah. We don't need them. Are you a 5 inch guy? Now 5 inch is the length, isn't it? Yeah. The inseam. No. See what? No. So sorry, not the inseam, it's the length of the the shoe. How far is 5/8? No 5 inch? How far is 5 inch? Well, it's kind of the mid, the mid. So if I looked at a you looked at a picture, they're not quite long.
What length? So they're not what do I wear I. Was going to say, what length are the salomons? You put me on the on the seven. They're great. They're fantastic. Well so 5 inch these guys are saying been running long enough to know to ensure chafe like hell, chooses comfort and speed but not compensating for anything. Has seen some dark places on long runs. So they kind of put this like 5 inches in the middle of seven inch.
However things fight. Now this is where I highly disagree and I'm being put in a box here. Thinks 3 miles is long distance. Nah. Still calls it cardio. Probably has hybrid athlete in their bio. Oh no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What about basketball shorts for running? No kids. Grow up, grow up. There's probably half time. Probably uses Nike Run Club to record the run and runs with half empty plastic water bottles in hand.
OK. Now let's let's remember though just quickly, let's remember everything Courtney and I are saying right now about this that our baseline of operation is all running is good running, everybody getting out there and. Running. We're just having some fun. Is good running now that I've established that if you're running in basketball shorts, grow up. Go and get some running shorts. Go and buy yourself a pair of shorts. There ain't much difference
between 7 inch in basketball. Leave your hoop dreams behind and go and get yourself some running shorts. Now Crispy, who sent it to us? He said Ah shite because I sent this and then I realised I run in Lululemon shorts and I've got a Lululemon shorts 1 here go. Probably owns a golden retriever. Spent $98 to look fast for a two mile run club. Definitely records runs on an Apple Watch, Jogs in place at stoplights. Do you? No, please don't.
No thinks the warm up is supposed to be an all out run. So what I would say about those Lululemon shorts is that that matches up. Remember I said I went past Lululemon's activation at the Sydney Marathon? Yeah. That's out. That was it it. Was a pretty spot on. But I have heard they're really comfy. I I do. Not doubt it. No, no, I've heard Luke that I haven't heard shoes wise not.
Great make shoes. Hence probably haven't heard, didn't even know that they haven't heard the greatest thing but. I would I like I think Lululemon's I think. Lululemon's I've heard 100% comfy. Lululemon's an interesting branding example, case study I guess, because when it started very much a yoga brand. Well, I don't know if that's where it originated, but that's my perception of it. And also very female focused. Yes, and try to skew to male. Do you know Lulu would do the best job?
I think of community slash influencer marketing in the country around this space. Well, when I say the best, they invest the heaviest. Well, I know, I know. Dill Buckley is an ambassador of Lululemon's. I feel like Max Gorn's done some stuff for them down in Melbourne. Yeah, no, I look and I think it's a fantastic brand. And do you know what comes to mind? As much as I said yoga, female forward, all the rest of it is quality. It feels like a quality brand. I don't think I've, I think I
might have owned AT shirt once. I don't think I've owned much Lululemon, but I feel like it in my mind it's it's it's in that quality. Tier. Yeah. Hey, I'm talking about female focus first, a bit more male focused. Did you watch Bathurst? Yeah, on the weekend. Oh, how good was that moment? Do you know where I'm going? Taz Mosta. Yep, Yep. But crashing out. Crashing out. Open the barrier. Straight onto the beers. Great Northern in hand. Yep, within two minutes of
crashing out of the crack. That's going to, that's going to be, it's going to be one of the all time great moments of sport. They're in. They're for all future professional athletes listening, for all current professional athletes listening. That is how you handle adversity. You, you, literally you drive into the skid. That is how you handle a moment and get value out of it forever. More like he he could have been, and I'm sure he was salty, filthy, annoyed, frustrated,
angry. All those emotions would have been running through his head. Now, had he walked through that crowd and handled things differently. Yeah, really could have. You know, maybe nothing happens. Maybe nothing comes of it but potential to maybe damage a brand if he brushes them or gets annoyed or gets frustrated the way Chaz Moss had handed. That is a lesson. A mask they should put up for every future athlete. Hey guys, if you ever crash out and have to walk through the
crowd, this is how you handle it. 100% this. Is there's no negativity, it was probably a mid strength. So there all these people saying sure you shouldn't be drinking, they're ticked off. Definitely a super crisp 100%. Can I quickly talk a bit more about Bathurst because I love I, I was thinking about this, the, the commentary, the, the
coverage was fantastic. But the, and the phrase I took out of it was that to get good racing, you just had a little bit of rain or something like that along the lines. Those final 10 laps or whatever it was when that cloud was settling in at the top of the mountain. I was thinking, the commentary's raving about this, right? They're declaring it one of the greatest races ever. The crowds losing their mind. The viewers are enthralled. Yes, a fourth did I hear this morning.
Fourth highest viewed behind sporting event this year behind the AFL Grand Final. I think it's 5.3. MIL And yet those athletes, the drivers could not have been in more danger. They were hurtling across the top of the mountain with basically new visibility and we were cheering them all on like this. That to me is gladiator stuff. No, it is because in a world where more and more it's about safety, Yeah.
And everyone like, oh, we can't do that if someone's going to get upset or hurt or injured or dangered. And that still celebrated. It just shows you, Liam, if, if more sports just had a bit more freedom. I mean, I'm not going to say violence. Isn't there no? Because But there's a lot of sports that have pulled so far back from what they originally were. Yeah, and that's why people watch sport. That's why we watch elite athletes in sport, That's why we don't watch mediocre athletes.
That's why the pinnacle of sport at somewhere like Bathurst or UFC or you know, if you're watching an NRL grand final or whatever it is and you want to see the pinnacle of what normal people cannot do, and they proved exactly that on the. I would have put. I would have pulled over in those conditions. 100 yeah, I would have you would have been if you were driving down the M1 on that awful white concrete which goes, which is the same colour as the bloody rain and
the clouds. When the when that when weather sits in on the M1I slow down, you find the. Great. Are you one of those guys who finds the? I I do not accelerate and try and pass people. No, it was it was a great race and one of my one of my favourite actually Scotty Pie who drives as one of the Co drivers. I think he's driving with Will Brown from Red Bull. Red Bull and pole racing. I was listening to Apex Hunters, his podcast this morning about the whole thing and there was
it's like a great race. But then in the background there's so many stories going on in that super cars at the moment about parody of the cars, more drag this motor, you know, Ford complaining about they don't have quite the speed, but then they've won the the shoot out. Like there's a lot going on in that sport at the moment and it's working. Yeah. Speaking of sport, I want to talk about the cool and gather gold this weekend. Yes, if you're listening to it today, it is today.
If you're listening to this on the Saturday, the Shoreham partners Cool and Gather Gold, which is now quick background for anybody that hasn't played along, This is one of the most. It was created off the back of a movie in 1984 or 1980 thereabouts. Pretty much Grant Kenny. Yeah, Guy Leach. Guy Leach, Yeah, made them all. Colin Fraser's names exactly was in the was the star of the movie and they literally created the race because the movie came up
with this race. The idea of racing from surfers to Colin Gatter and back, it used to be 41.8 or a little bit more than that total distance. This year, for the first time, they've halved it, and it's also been introduced as part of the series. So Ali Dae, who's won ten of these calling out of gold, who I thought retired now. And this is the thing. He did retire from the calling out of gold and then they have integrated it into the series.
Yeah. So now as a series racer, he has to compete in it. Courtney Hancock was explaining this to us herself a full time winner of the Calling. She came into the studio and she'll be she'll be commentating as part of the coverage today. She explained that basically what was happening and this is a, you know, it's probably happening in other sports and we see things like the T20 and other versions of netball and all these things pop up.
What was happening was the gun athletes, or a lot of athletes were skipping the calling out of gold. Because it's different training to the Sprint series. You've got it already. So the sprints. So these athletes have to be able to in the way Courtney, you know, anything from 15 minutes to the calling out of gold, which can take 4 hours. And that, as you would could probably speak to better, is a would be a hard thing to train and be ready for as an athlete and stay fit.
But here's a solution. I mean, it's not going to solve all the issues of surf life saving. I mean, it's a it's a different sporting, let's say landscape these days to when the, the days of the Kenny's and the Uncle Toby's and and Nutrigrain and all that were like obviously on TV every Sunday. But the solution to me is don't give people an option. And that's what they've done. But then they've kind of like gone halfway and eroded like
this is my thoughts. They've they're going to erode this event to just be another event when they had their marquee event. This is their Hawaii Ironman triathlon of their sport. It's the one thing in their sport that outside people who don't follow Surf Life Saving may still have a like an attachment. To they know of oh, the cool and gather gold's on. I remember that. Is that like, you know, they race up and down the Gold Coast? Well, no they don't.
So you don't like it now? Or you you you don't like the changes? No, absolutely not. See in my, my thought is instead of going well, some of the athletes, they it's too hard to train for the long and the short. So I'm just going to skip the long go. Well, you know what, double points on the long and then you do the short as well and you work out the best way. Like that's, that's not a big enough sport to be able to pick and choose.
That's my, my point. So there's and the triathlon and I'm talking in this is coming from a point of passion, not a point of, oh, you need to put it down right. Absolutely. Because I know triathlon was, you know, since when I got to race around Australia and triathlon, it's changed in the same way. We don't have a local triathlon series here that's a professional series anymore. And what happens is when you give too much choice to athletes and let them hold what like hold
everyone to you. Dilute you dilute your problem. You've got to treat it like a business. And if your biggest business and your most knowledgeable race is the cool and gather goal, you've got to make it the marquee race. That's interesting as well because I'm just having a look as you talk about it and I love hearing you talk about it like that and I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense. I can also understand why the organisers have done what
they've done. I, I don't think it's here for good, like I don't think these changes are here permanently. I think you, I think you will see a return to the long, long form race. What makes you say that? I think that we see some of these changes made short term and I think the athlete resolve is what changes it ultimately. Let me give you an example talking about this Iron Series thing and, and last year the Iron Series championship was
decided in a in a final format. Essentially they they got down to the last day and then athletes were given seconds head start based on races leading up on the day. Now Connor Mags won the men's series and Lucy Derbyshire won the women's series, both first time winners, best on the day. Does that mean they're the champion? Does that mean they're the best athlete of that year? I feel like when you have a, when you have an event, a series like this and surfing's a bit the same.
My understanding is surfing is going to backtrack on what they've been doing, where the world title is decided on that final day. Because it doesn't like when you've got, we'll go with surfing for a moment, when you've got a Series, A calendar of events at such diverse waves, Chopu and snapper and pipe and all these incredibly different ways that require a different set of skills. Why does the athlete that can execute best at Huntington Beach deserve to be crown world champion?
Or you know, and I think I personal opinion, think the champion should be the best consistent performer across the season. That's who should be your champion because they are able to adapt to the most waves and have the overall highest result for the end of the year. It's like EPL, it's it's first past the post. It's not who's the best on one particular day different to what
football does. And I think my understanding talking with some people is that the athletes have responded that, OK, that's how we did it last year. Fine. We don't love that because it doesn't actually reward the most consistent athlete in a sport where you have to be good week in, week out. Yes, it takes away the need to be good in week in, week out. You can kind of get there. If you can just be around the mark on the last day of the season, you win. Yeah, I, I mean, I hear you both.
I hear it both ways. I'm always thinking about sports from a commercial point of view. Yeah. Of if you want more people outside, like that's all well and good for those people in the industry.
And like if you, if you're in surf life saving, that's your daily, you know, that's just sport, you know, everything that's going on. Yeah, but you take me for the moment, I'm a little bit more removed from surf life saving for me to take notice as an outsider into sport, you know, like I took, I'm watching, I'm watching Bathurst and we're talking about Bathurst and I'm loving it. Am I going to talk about the cool and gather gold? That's not the cool and gather gold anymore.
There needs to be some noise. I'm not going. To just the point I was going to make looking at the results. Interesting because Shannon Eckstein, widely considered one of the greatest ever. Yes, Iron Man, how many? I don't know how many series he won all up, but they called in the professor. I think I'm just having a quick look here. It's 6-7 times or more than that I've under sold. Geez, I'm looking here. He's probably A10 time Iron Man champ.
Kane younger brother is the five time calling out a gold champ like Zane. I'm just I'm just having a look here. Shannon's won it. I don't think Shannon's ever won it, which is interesting. Yeah, I'm not sure, but I mean he's. Finished runner up but. That's interesting, right, Because Kane then obviously went on to do things outside of the sport. So it's a very different calling out of gold. I still think the name has so much equity and history and heritage.
I hope it reverts. Yeah, I just, I mean, like you said, it's got heritage, it's got history and racing up and down the Gold Coast, showing off the Gold Coast, showing off the skyline. What it began as you take something like we've talked about this before across let's get away from iron surf life saving Iron Man for a while. But like the events that become those marquee events are historical events that like, yeah, Hawaii Iron Man.
So we're talking about UTMB now like it's it's now the big thing. But that's been going on for, you know, years and years. It's not like suddenly we just change it. Yeah. To make this thing as a Hawaiian man, they've, you know how they mixed up the men and the women? One racing their niece. That looks like. I'm pretty sure someone might call me out. That'll come back together. Oh cool, a friend of mine said that Katie Ramon who raced it
kinda Yep she she got it done. I think she finished 40th in the pro females but said it was a grind. Just it was hot. Oh, that. Run It was a great race for the the the the women as well with Taylor near yes, right at the end. Lucy Charles as well. Like all it all changed. It was like one of those real one of the great races of the Hawaii man where you just saw. You know it was right to the wire. People exploding.
I'm going to forget her name and I'm going to feel terrible for it. I'm I'm frantically trying to find it. But did you see the Sprint finish in the Under 23 women's triathlon race? Yeah, Matt Hill. Matt. Matt, I think her name was Matt House is shit. Just an unbelievable Sprint finish from the Aussie whose name, apologies people are probably the people that are following the triathlon closely screaming at it right now under championships. I'm going to tell you who it is.
It is Rochelle Hill. Rochelle. Rochelle Hill Oh, can we get this clip up? Matt Hauser If you don't follow him, he's got it up there. Rochelle Hill's Sprint kick finish to win the under 23 women's race, defeat the Italian race at all time. It was so good. She flew home And that's actually that's an interesting point about to take back cool and get a goal. Courtney Hancock Another point she made about this shorter format is that the runners are the ones who are going to benefit the run.
The good runners in the field are the ones that Will. She believes Will could take it out because, and she couldn't remember the name, but there's one of the lads in the series who apparently will run 3 minute case. He's a runner. He's a runner. But then even the old course where they had to finish with the 10K run, it always had that. It was always that one long distance run that, you know, was something different on that because, you know, most of their sport is an upper body arms.
So that was the one race that gave the opportunity for someone who could do an endurance run like a KNX. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For getting some of the names in more the older days. But like the runners could come through at the end of this race. It gave them a different race, a different opportunity, Josh. Minogue, he's a good runner. Actually. That was the famously, I think it was two years ago, maybe three years ago when Ali won it but had a torn calf. Yes, ran that.
Did that run with a torn calf? Yeah, well, it was Alex Rigby that day looking after his calf. I know. So it was. Share that riggers. Yeah, like got him, got him through. I think they, I think before the last run, they actually got strapping on him like in the training in a pit stop, literally in a pit stop with him on this triathlon thing.
What's even greater about that under 23 female win was I was at the airport earlier in the week and happened to run into some of the crew from Triathlon Australia. And I said, oh, you know, like how's it gonna go? And they actually, they thought Matt Hauser and the Para tribe
were their opportunities. So this one probably, it sounds like without me knowing too much of the background, sounds like it's one that, you know, she's Australian World Championships and you get some Australian, you know, really top notch performances come out of the skin. Very nice. Congratulations. Awesome. Yeah. And to everybody else racing there down there over the weekend, yeah, good luck. Good luck. Good luck Jazza. Jazza from our Clydesdale. Jazzy White. Yep, the the Folk.
Clydesdale King, He. He sent me a pic in his, all these green and gold ready to go. So good. Yeah. What are we? What are we moving on to next, Mr Atkinson? Because there's you. You said we've got plenty to get through, so I'll let you jump in next. Where did you want to go next? Well, we've we've been jumping around a little. Bit we have been moving around a local shop. I've got an update on the Strava, the Strava V Garmin.
So not an update on the actual lawsuit that we talked about the court case, but it sounds like something in the background at least Strava and other developers will now comply with Garmin's new data attribution rules before the November the 1st deadline. So going on in the background, Garmin were actually if you use a Garmin product, they were wanting to see the Garmin logo attributed or identified or when you can see it when you shared it.
So I'm sure there's people who are a lot more across this than what I am, but I'm assuming what this means is when you're on Strava and you've used a Garmin product to put your information on Strava, they want their logo showered. Someone sent me this, yeah. So it's, it's an, it's a, it's an advertising thing for them to say, hey, our product's being used. I'm assuming they're thinking, well, you're getting advantage out of this.
And our product being used. Well, we want, we want not just Garmin Forerunner 243 showing, we want our logo. Visible Strava said that they will comply Or is it have they rejected? This article from where? Who's it coming from? amileaminute.com, so if anyone disagrees, go after them and not me. In an email circulated by Strava on October the 11th, any developer using Strava's API on its platforms and apps must allow users to see the Garmin logo on workouts that originates
from Garmin devices. Garmin's got a good logo. Logo. I'm on board for that. Yeah. So I wonder then I wonder then the trickle down effect of that. Yeah. So the trigger down effect of that is then I wonder where the people at Polar go. Well, hey, hang on, Garmin, get me slippery slope. Slippery slope. So I mean, would you care if you saw a logo? Do you even look at anyone? Do you do you actually in, because we're talking Strava here, probably mainly.
Do you even look? At at the data that people have attached to their runs. Like, have you ever gone? Oh, I don't, I don't know. Bo runs with AI. Don't even pay attention to the shoes either. Geez. I'm not running with him. No, no, he hasn't got a. Gear. Oh God, I yeah, I think. He's still using a 1984 Garmin 4 runner. For all the you're running in Kayano, for all the daddy you do.
That for shoes for all the. No, but for all the daddy you can add in on the bottom of Strava, ultimately I just look at who's run where, how far and how fast. That's ultimately all I look at. Is that what you're? Yeah. Why do you look at other people's runs? I'm curious, you're curious. I'll tell you. And here's a story and I will have to redact names for the sake of privacy. Sure. I currently have a friend who I have sort of set up with another friend in a romantic sense.
OK, and I now know things are going well. They're running together. Because his runs, which are normally geographically centred in one location, are now he's running a lot more based on where this person lives. I sent him. So is this a stalking situation or is this no, no. Is this like you can actually see? Because like if you run with someone on Strava, it says hey, you've run. With someone? No, no, no, she doesn't run. He runs. He normally runs in one city.
I now notice that he's running a lot more in another city. In another city, and that's the city or the part of the city where she lives. Yeah, right. So I'm assuming things are going well, the sleepovers. Data. Privacy, yeah.
Doesn't exist anymore, right? I mean, this is the, the, the irony of Strava is, you know, like Snapchat or Instagram, all these other ones, like people would be like, I don't want anyone to know where I am so that you put your privacy on so you can't see where you're operating. However, no one's got any issue of like uploading where they run every morning. Yeah, I know. And from like houses, there is a privacy.
I, I have that on, I have the first and last 200 metres of my, yes, driver's turned off 200 metres. But I think that's what it is, isn't it? Can I extend that? Hopefully. I mean 200 metres is that's stalking. Now come find me. That's stalking. Territory. And Courtney's home address is yeah. Back to let's talk about bone stress injuries, So is you. Do you know Patrick? I know Patty Mack. That's that's who you do from the running room. So he was on Network 10?
Yes, he was the other night talking about more runners having bone stress injuries. So I picked up on that. Hopefully my computer's on thing. Bone stress is injury. So he's saying bone stress injuries are on the rise as Aussies love for running surgeons. So the theory behind that and I and I don't agree or disagree on that, but the theory would be more runners, more bone stress injuries. I kind of do disagree. Why is that?
Because I think the bone stress injuries have changed #1 they're more upper limb than lower, what we would have used to see in lower limb. And I also #2 say it's not just new runners getting the bone stress injuries. We're seeing new existing runners who have run for a long, long time who are now getting bone stress injuries. And I put myself into that category, but I'm also putting a lot of the the more elite runners that we're seeing are getting up a limb, stress, injuries.
So what do you think? And we, we, you've hypothesised. Well, we we, we, we shoe stars. Oh, look, I mean, yeah, we've hypothesised. We don't have an answer. I ran into a a like a physio I trust the other day and I said he actually said to me there is some evidence suggesting around the shoes and rebounds and I'm going to try and get that those studies so we know more. But just for the sake of conversation, we've had a few people ride in and like neither
disagree nor nor agree. It's just conversation points here. One was from Spikes only on. They didn't write in. I picked this up Spikes only from Derek Hansen. So he's this. This theory was as you get older, you start to feel things differently than when you were younger. So they're like saying it's actually more an older like an ageing athlete type of thing. You muscles, joints, aches more even from simple tasks, which I can.
Yeah, that's true. As such, changes in footwear appeared to be amplified for this person. OK, so, and this is where I've talked about this before, a stiff shoe now feels a whole lot stiffer. So it's got a carbon in there. I feel like that resonates with me more like I feel it's stiffer. 2 decades ago, I could probably put on any shoe and I would have run, wouldn't have
even a problem. So the the differences in shoes, the differences in whether they're supportive or they're too soft, more rubber, whatever else when you're ageing that has more and more notification. Yeah, I agree with that. Is the rapid innovations in shoe design actually the thing causing this? That's one theory, one question. It's a good the the interesting point there is I'm trying to think now. I mean, that's just age. About Yeah, I'm also trying to. Blame in the shoes as well.
It's just age and it's true. It's. You know what's funny? Do you know? And I don't know if you find this at all. I find now if I sleep with my arms, like if I sleep on my side, if I sleep on my side, when I wake up in the morning, my shoulder is killing me. If I don't like if I move my, if I have my arms or shoulders at normal angles, that I would have slept like that for years. I think I've always been a side sleeper. Yeah. Now I'll wake up and my shoulder and my collarbone will be so
sore. Yeah. Absolutely I could just because you're doing gym now and I'm. Doing and I'm going. To gym gym yeah yeah, yeah, but no I agree so like choosing shoes with greater he he anyway their theory is back to what I was caught kind of talking about the shoes flexibility can help giving your foot more ability to move forgetting about like yes. Yep. The shoes are quicker. Yep, a favourite. It might not be for everyone to be the best case to wearing them
too often. The other one we got in was from Josh McNabb. Hey guys, in the beginning, curse strikes again. Oh, no new injury. First time I've copped a stress fracture. This one being in the sacrum. Oh, that's kind of a hot. Is this your stomach? No, no, no. Like. Oh, Dan, your groyne area. Yeah, OK. So. Yeah, I mean that's even higher than than the feminist stuff going on. Having a lot of time on mines have been digging into these, why it's so common at the
moment. Obviously been doing a bit of Googling or what is it these days? Chatting chat? ChatGPT that that's a new there's a reason to stay fit kids. Otherwise you'll end up Googling boring stuff. Back to my theory on high stacked shoes. This is Courtney's theory on high packed shoes. From digging in the number of experts, the opinion is that the highest stress fracture rate in the body is more likely to what? Reds or energy deficiency being the key to factor now.
So not eating correctly, not having the biomutrients bones breaking down. Now I disagree on this because the first thing that happened when I went and got my scans and there was an injury, we did full bloods. Yeah, no issue. OK, that's one person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't change my diet. I didn't change anything else. So like it might contribute to some people's issues, but I don't think it's. The overall contribute, that's my opinion.
I don't think it's the overall, the overall factor. I still think the overall factor's got a lot more to do with shoes. To go back around to what Paddy's saying though, about more people, more running, more injuries, more injuries, it stands to reason, right that if you go through any period of inactivity in your life,
extended period of inactivity. Let's throw a very broad blanket here and say most people through school, high school are doing some level of sport, maintaining some level of exercise. The moment you leave school and you lose that structured plan A, the team school sport you play or whatever it is and the training that comes with it. If that structuredness goes away from your life, it's it's that's, I would say that's one big drop off we see in physical activity amongst this Australian
population. And then maybe you're at university or college, but once you exit your 30s as well or your 20s, there's another big drop off point because families begin and everything else this boom we've seen has probably reintroduced a host of people back into regular exercise,
running in this case. It stands to reason that all that people kind of, when you surge a whole new audience population into it, of course, of course we're going to see an increased rate in injury, bone stress, injuries, all the rest, just by sheer weight of numbers. 100.
Percent And when you add to that, even if all those people didn't have something predisposed or the lack of inact or the inactivity, adding to all that, the lack of knowledge or the misinformation that exists is another thing that I would suggest is probably adding to all that. So you know who's winning? Physios, Yes. Physios. Yeah. Cash in. It's owned. Yeah, it's a, it's a good time. It's a good, good time to be a physio that especially a physio that, you know, knows their way
around running and running. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good morning anyway. So quick recovery, Josh. Yeah, quick recovery. Hey, I was down at the Hunter Valley this week on a bit of a work thing. It's an awful place to run. Oh, really? No. Good. I it's. Quite sort of. Nothing like it's great for wine, but. Yeah, have you been? Yeah, yeah, I've been at the Hunter. 3 * 3 times for work. That's been my whole experience except for staying and I think it's the ridges or the Mercure
which is its own ground. It has some like dirt tracks with their vineyard. It's an it's like running on a highway. The whole time I was dodging car. I ran an hour every morning, got up early 6:00 and I was just dodging. I was using every little bit of my running etiquette to run against the traffic on the side of the road. Could not find anywhere. Here's a. Here's a. Including using Strava heat maps, I still couldn't find anywhere to run.
I've got this, this is coming to you light in the pace. It's as bad as a light in an episode as I've ever thrown out one of these half thought out theory. Yep, running in wine regions is no good in Australia. But it should be because I would say that I've run in the Barossa. No good. I've run in McLaren Vale, no. Good. Is that because it's all private property? Well, I think so. And because large parts, you
know, they want, it's flattish. There's some rises and falls, but it's kind of, yeah, it doesn't lend itself to. But the problem is, well, not the problem. I mean it's private property, right? But I'm looking around going. There's nothing but grass and fields and trails. It's literally dirt tracks as far as the eye can see, but they're like, and I did check on, I did check on heat maps to see where, where's the like where's most people run and the road I end up running on was the
highest. Traffic in foot? If someone can show us good runs through a wine region, I'd love to know. I'm going to give, and I don't know the names, there's a park run up on the Sunshine Coast out that, well, it's probably in between the Sunshine Coast and Brisbane. That is on a winery. Park Run Winery, Brisbane I went out to the winery, not to run. At ceremony so. Sorry, I forgot about ceremony. No, this one's not on ceremony, but ceremony has one as. Well, as a park run, yeah. Fantastic.
Spices Retreat, Hidden Vale Park Run, maybe Ocean View Park. No hidden Vale? There's one each week as well. Two Rivers Winery, Park Run. Might be two rivers. This one is up up Mount Cotton. They're Mount Cotton ceremony. Where's this other one? This one Someone will know what where where this is. It's kind of like out north side of Brisbane on the way to the sunny coast out in the in the
hills. Anyway, I went out there for lunch one day and there's like just park run signs everywhere and it looked like I looked at it and thought I could run an event here. Yeah, right. Straight away I was like, this is this is a place where you could come up with some type of event. You sat on the you sat on the you know where you have lunch in the brewery or whatever it is Winery looked out over the the fields and you could see the hills and we.
Maybe that maybe this is the first in the beginning run we do it, we find. It as they do it there every Sunday. They won't do it as well as us. Like, here's what I'm thinking. You figure out the course, you do a lot of the event stuff. I'll come up with a funny name. Sounds like a sounds like a fair exchange, Liam. I'm just putting our our various respective strengths to work. But anyway. It is a call.
Does anyone know of wineries or in those regions so they do run tours or something or give you access to run? OK, hold on. Is this it? What's this? Oh, this is exciting. The greatest 5K run. What is this at? The greatest 5K run at the Overflow Estate in Beaudesert. Queensland. No, that's not where I'm thinking. Beaudesert's West. I know, but what the greatest 5K run? I don't know if it's been on for a while but that looks fun. Centaur outdoor events.com dot AU.
He wouldn't. Want to be there? I want to go in. Summer. Wait, what? What's the? No, it hasn't been held for a while. Oh the next 2024. They had held an event in 2024 in the Hunter Valley. They did. They did what Winery doesn't say. Doesn't say. Yeah, Oh, there's someone's got the idea. I. Thought there was a real gap in the market? Well. I don't know how many runners get, but like, it is a highly populated spot for tourism. Yeah. A highly populated spot for
company off sites. Yeah, going in, lots of people staying. Think of one of the wineries when you know what $10 entry run our trails from six to seven each morning. Little chill. Am I asking too much? Little. Chilled Rose Oh, you mean no, I think it's a great idea. We've talked about this because there's been that event over in Scotland or thereabouts where you run through and you have, yes, there's. The private party, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's.
Not asking to do the wine, I mean you can. Do you just want to? Access. I just want, I just want some access. I'm calling for some access in the Hunter Valley to go and run off the road. Open your gates. There was a National Park. People are going to go Courtney. There's a National Park that you can run in. I agree there was. It's got fire roads. I saw there's a mountain bike track there where I was staying.
I would have had to travel around the back of the National Park, which was too far to be able to get there because the rest of the access was all private property. There's my little bit of wine. For them all. See what you did? All right, there you go in the
beginning for your weekend. To anybody that finished the Melbourne Marathon, we'd still love to hear of your personal experiences and more importantly, as we look forward Noosa, we are two weeks out at time of recording from 2 weeks, 2 weeks, first weekend in November, 2 weeks out from the Noosa Triathlon. Wow. There's some some first timers been having, you know, writing and saying thanks for the help and that, you know, Dan's obviously really resonated with him.
But the Clydesdale 1 True Cloud stars love a bit of controversy. Enjoy the weekend, we'll see you next week.