In the beginning, Episode 46, we are back. Courtney, how are you travelling? I'm good, Liam. Yeah, another week. Another week and yeah, I'll concede. Let's start with a concession, a hand up apology. Soccer's not a contact sport. Yep. If you missed If you missed last week's episode. No one agreed. With no one agreed, I have been inundated with people, my wife as well. Not just from people messaging me but my wife saying soccer is not a contact. Sport.
Did anyone give you that? Basketball is more of a contact sport. No, I didn't get any of that but. I, I'm, I'm intrigued at the moment, I'm getting absolutely spammed on the algorithm with the Caitlin, Caitlin, Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham. Yep, Yep. Thank you for the last. No, no, no. Just see across everything, but that's an amazing story going on here at the moment yeah and just the whole advertising behind it, Nike and Gatorade and everyone,
yeah. Driving driving, big business and realistically 2 athletes just taking over the league. It's exciting it the growth of women's basketball is incredible in America. I don't have all the data on it, but anecdotally and watching on socials, it's very cool. It's very cool. It's very cool storylines being built over there. Yeah, let's, let's get to running. Lee, what have you been like? What have? You been asking, we're kicking
off. We normally talk about our running weeks a bit later in the pop, but I want to start today by saying I love running. I just, I had a moment. So I'm back now. I'm being very responsible, very mature, very sensible about my running approach at the moment. Good to hear. And I'm about to blow that out the water in a couple of days time, but we'll get to that. I'm the old 10% build time and kilometres 10% building week on week. I'm back up over 50 KSA week at
the moment. Nice. And I had a moment last night. I was going for an easy, it went for about 16 1/2 KS just cruising for me, which is a sort of about 515 pace. And suddenly I just had that realisation as I was rolling along going this was great, this feels great. I had that moment where because leading up to that run, some of the runs, I was back down in Adelaide and it was cold. Or you know how the other week I said I'm not an early morning runner anymore.
I've also realised I'm not a cold weather runner. Well, I've become a real soft runner. You've become a gold coaster. I have become one of the softest fair weather runners you've ever come across. Now, now I can only run in, you know, mid to low 20° temperatures in the afternoon. That's the only time I can run. You're a queen. We'll just call you a QLD. I'm a Queensland runner now, but I was, I'd been for some runs in Adelaide and I actually thought I'd nicked my hamstring.
I actually thought I'd got a little nick in my hamstring because it was really sore. And so I, I was going for some runs in Adelaide and it was cold and my hamstring felt tight and I was only, I was going slow so I knew I wasn't going to do any damage to it. And then last night I was running around the coast because we got back and the hamstring
soreness had gone away. So it wasn't a tear, it was just a bit of a strain and I was just rolling and I'm like, this is back to where I was pre Kanani. Yeah, I'm back to where I was at the start of the year where my legs feel strong. I've been doing the strength training, the legs feel strong, the slow kilometres are paying off and my body is processing running well again. When you're saying I'm going out for an easy 16 Ki mean 16 K. It's not nothing, Yeah.
You're running. You're running. I'm, I'm back running and it was such a, it was such a great feeling. So I want to say to anybody who's out there listening to this, if you are battling, if the running doesn't feel good right now, that feeling again, I think I've done this before, but that feeling is just around the
corner. If you're patient, if you do what you need to, that feeling running, the endorphin release and there's no other exercise like it that that great runners high is just around the corner for everybody. And more and more people are finding that out. I was actually, I'll leave that in a minute. I was down in Sydney at a rebel sport City to Surf Run club and I was talking to a young fella. This weekend, what is it?
It is. Yeah. So as we're talking Saturday, it will be tomorrow if you're listening in on the the usual Saturday. But I was talking to a few of the young guys around there and a lot of them when you first time, it's just doing city to surf for the first time, first run and that that was their comment. Three different people. That was the comment of I never realised running felt good. But I've started running. I've been coming to the club.
I never felt running in it, but I'll get into that in a SEC. I want to go back to you talked a little bit about a niggle, right? Yeah. I have had some complaints. Lame to be honest. OK, not about just you, about me and you. Here that we are. We're injured a lot, yeah. I mean, the evidence is there. I'm not. We can't. We can't argue. So the, the the challenge has been put to us. Sure. Just, you know, it's it's great. Everyone feels included. Sure, when we're injured.
Yeah, because everyone gets injured. But it's time to just forget about it. We've got to get back to running. Oh, yeah, Yeah, we've got to get back to running. No injuries, nothing good. We're going to be doing nothing silly. Well. I'm about to I don't know if it's silly. OK look, and that feedback is totally fair. I I would say that we're both back. I think we're both back running now you might not be back to the level you were at the start of the year, but I think I'm as my
engine feels strong again. My legs feel strong again. Yeah, just like awareness in the hamstring, we'll call it. But didn't stop me. It it wasn't a red light injury. It was an injury that actually had me because I, I thought about when I was in Adelaide, I was like, oh, is this something that I should just be resting but a bit of old tar and cream and staying, you know, not not running intervals. Yeah. And I'm I feel great.
Not not just knowing when it is something proper to think about, but it's just normal but normal day to day wear and tear. We are, we are runners here and I think it was, Benita said. The longer if if you're gonna run, Injuries are part of running. So it is whoever is, is is. No, no. But we've been, we have been, yeah, we've been consistently injured. It's 20. 25 has been the year of the injury. And that's changing now. Question for you, where did you
run when you're in Adelaide? So I did, I think I did three runs, 3, two or three runs. Rivers. I was running around the the River Torrens. I had a little bit of the UNI loop going, which is where anybody that follows Jess Trengrove, Australian Olympian in the marathon, or Jess Stenson as she is now married. You'll see Jess put up a lot of runs from around the river and around the UNI loop I saw. Brett Carter on the weekend did
a loop. It must have been about 30 K but look like just a loop of the whole green area of the city. So yeah, for the outside of the city, yeah. For those that don't know Adelaide, Adelaide is it's a great city. It's built on a grid, so it's really easy for idiots like me to get around. But it's surrounded by Parklands. So you've got N SE and W Terrace, which kind of encompass the city and within that is Parklands.
So you can do a really simple, straightforward square box type run around the city of Adelaide. Following on the Parklands. I do have one complaint about my run in Adelaide. Robbed by Strava. Absolutely robbed by Strava. So I'm trying to build a little bit of speed. I've told you, despite not racing at Noosa this year, I still have. I still would love to break at 40 for 10K. We've got that goal here. So I'm trying to build in the slower, longer runs like I did
yesterday. You know, A16K run at about 5:10, 5-10 slower building that engine as well as these interval runs. Where I'm at the moment, I'm running sort of 9/4 hundreds, trying to keep the pace down around 3:40, recovering in between and and building out those runs to rediscover that pace. But then I did a run in Adelaide and I was going to try and do a little bit of a tempo run. So couple of KS warming up slowly and building some more consistent kind of 430 type pace
kilometres. Strava robbed me like I was rolling along and. Robbed me? How did I rob you? So Michael Shelley talked about how he didn't really need his watch. He could always run to feel, yes, I was running and I was feeling like I'm like, this feels 430 pace. But for whatever reason, the GPS wasn't working, wasn't connecting. It was actually not Strava's fault. It was Garmin's fault, wasn't
connecting to the watch. And I'm looking at my lap pace on my watch and it's telling me I'm running 514 pace. And I'm again now as I've done enough slow runs and fast runs to know what I'm running. And I was thinking this is not 514 pace. And I pushed on and I ran about 4-5 KS and eventually the watch beeping goes, GPS ready and I'm like, well, I've just put in four or five KS of probably 430 pace. So you reckon it dropped out it you were on the GPS? It dropped out in the run and
came? I've never seen that. Never heard it. I'll show you my activity. I'll bring this up and I'll show you this run. This is in Adelaide and and we'll try and get some of this up on the camera, but basically you can see there there's a, a straight line on my Strava. Yeah, I know. OK, I'll lie. I have seen this happen in the forest. That was not a straight were. You running with your phone or with? The watch I was running with my watch and my phone but.
Where? Where did you get that one? So did this come from the watch or the phone? This. Has come from my watch OK, but yeah so it robbed me of. I I I take that back, I have seen it happen in the forest a few times. And in a world where if it doesn't show up on Strava, it doesn't count, I feel robbed. I feel like I've been robbed. You've gone quicker, you've straight lined it. I'll just take it. Nobody. Maybe someone else would just take it.
I ran further, I ran further, faster and it's giving me that straight line anyway. You know, you know how much I love talking about GPS and things dropping out of Starlink. Oh yes, you know, can get, you know when you really need to get online and get in line even did. I talk about when I saw Starlink go through the sky. No, a Starlink satellite. Have you ever seen a Starlink satellite? Elon Musk Starlink go through the sky?
I've. Seen a satellite? I don't know and I I haven't, I haven't got good enough eyes to work out which one it is. Have I never told you this story? No, I mean I know how quick a satellite rolls across to the sky. Very quick, very quick satellite story for you before we get back to GPSI was sitting down at my friend's house in Cabarita, this is months ago now, and sitting out the back and I didn't have
great eyesight either. And I said to my wife and my mate, I'm like, I don't have great eyesight guys, but what is that? And I put it in the sky. And the best way I can describe it is it looked like Santa and his reindeers. It was a, a, like it looked like Santa had all the reindeers lit up because flying through the sky was this straight line of white lights all connected.
Like if you imagine a constellation of a straight line of 6 or 7 white lights all just flying across the sky and we had no idea what it was. I'd never seen anything like it before. My friend whose house for out said, oh, it must be birds. And I was like, what birds are illuminated in the night sky? And I went on the radio show the next day to talk about it and. All these people are called in. It's Starling. It's Elon Musk Starling. That's what it looks like in the sky.
When they come across, I mean, I've seen plenty of satellites like fly across the sky. I can't I've ever seen the Starlink ones, but with Starlink, I went out to try. I got a like a mini Starlink and I went out to try it on just like a battery pack the other day instead of putting it into the car or like a cigarette lighter. I thought, I wonder if I can take it just with a power bank. Went to try it. Starlink was down. Oh, so that was the first time I'd seen that.
And then they got me thinking the next step. I thought, well, hang on, you're starting to read about the whole, you know, militaries are using Starling to, you know, do certain things. Different countries are relying on it. You know, I effectively with the speeds we get out West or even driving in the car with it up in the sunroof, you can drive along 100K an hour and you're still pinging like, you know, 200 to 300 megabytes per second. Ridiculous. But what happens the day that'll
they just shut it off? We're rooted. Are they? Are they going to turn it off? Well, they're not going to. But I'm just, I'm just saying the day that technology, you know, they decide something happens, they get hacked, or in this case the other morning, it was just a software glitch. They were out for three or four hours. Now, if everyone's relying just on that, it is going to become a massive problem. What was that? What was that? I think it was last year. What was that thing that shut
down every? It was the blue screen of death. Remember that? Do you remember? I don't remember that it was the bank. Accounts all the time. What was the? It's going to annoy me. It was called It's kind. Of like when we've all got different phones, but it was when was it? Optus had the big shutdown last year. Yeah, I, I the reason I bring it up, Crowdstrike was the name of the company. So this was the blue screen of death. Some people might remember it happened last year.
We couldn't do the radio show. I was, it was literally, it happened just before I was meant to start the afternoon radio show and all the monitors just were blue screen of death. And to your point, the idea that we are now in a world where technology controls everything and if something goes wrong, it's massive. So yeah, anyway, GPS. GPS back to. GPS, let's stay friendly with him. So running wise, a good week. I feel great. I'm I'm excited. I am about to do a time of recording.
I'm two days out from doing not something silly because I'm going to be measured about it. But I mentioned it last week on the pod. David Rhodes, friend of the podcast, who is training for Cosy 100. 100 kilometre at the end of the year, he's not doing the mile. He's not doing the mile, he's doing the 100 kilometre race at Cosy. I think, and I might get these details wrong, but the effect is the same.
He competed in the Cosy Oskar last year, the 100K race and could not finish at 97 KS. He was 3 kilometres from the finish and had to pull. Out what happened, he was. Called just the body shut down. He could not complete that. Now that's. Mental, right? That's mental first. That is just that is a kick that to to get through 97 kilometres of 100 kilometre race and be unable to finish. So he's going back for redemption this year. Actually.
I'd love if people are out there, if anyones got a redemption story, whether you didn't hit a time we didn't finish or something. I'd love to hear about your running redemptions if you've got something coming up that you're targeting or tackling because they're those are cool stories. So I am going out with Rosie for a run in two days time from now when we're recording. The trail run. And this is the 42 K trail run. This is the run down in northern NSW, Yeah, Yep.
So I'm, I'm really looking forward to it. I'm excited. As I said, my body feels good. I feel really strong. I'm gonna take it easy between now and then to make sure the legs are fresh. But you're just going out. You're well, you're slow. It's. Not like we're going out to break the. Rest talk about I reckon you gotta you position it as we're going off on a bit of a running adventure for the day. Exactly. We're not going on a long run. No, it's not a, it's not a long
run. It's not even a run. It's an adventure. I it's because. If. Because if you go and run it, that's when the problems occur. No. So this is about a day out. Yeah, we're going to head off I. Just want to. I just want to make sure you don't do anything silly. No, no, no, we are, we are going off at sparrows. I am in in my mind and I haven't spoken with Rosie about this, but in my mind this is going to be, I don't know how long it's going to take necessarily, but
it's going to be an adventure. It's if anybody follows Courtney on is social. So those sort of off Bush beaten path things that you film, that's what I'm envisaging this travel. Yeah. And the good, the good thing is, you know, if you see a waterfall or, you know, you can get up some rocks or whatever, that's where you take your time and go up. You just got to make sure you've got enough food. Yeah, that's that's a big one, food. And I'm going to pack it out. Beer normally helps.
I literally, I kid you not. I kid you not. He's just messaged me. Rhodes, he's just messaged me. Hey, mate, I'm very excited. Just getting all my nutrition sorted for the adventure. So there you go. He's viewing it as an adventure, which is great. We're going to be taking that adventure mentality to it. I'm going to be very envious then because I can't make it Wednesday. Hey question, I know people are going to. What was choosing to wear?
Yeah, good question. It's a one or two pairs of Salomons. I'm wondering whether I wear those, the ultra guides with the hail damage base that we've talked about before, which is super cushiony, don't have a great foot feel in them, but really protective of your feet and very comfortable, or whether I wear the ones that I raised Kunani in, which is that more hyper for the Genesis Genesis. What do you think? If it was me, I'd be go, I'd jump in the genesis. But that's just where I am at
the moment. But I. Feel like that's more of a racing shoe? It is a racing shoe. Like if you're just out for the day, yeah, jogging and going slow, you know what the big cushioning is probably going to be a. Nice. That's probably what I'm feel Good. That's what I'm going to go for I think. I reckon I'm going to go with comfort over performance. Comfort over performance, talking about people riding in. We didn't get a very good
reaction. Hey, calling out the crowd a little bit here last week when we asked what's everyone's favourite runs. Yeah, can't talk about it. Didn't get a lot of feedback on it. OK, that's OK. But we did get some feedback and there's a few. I'm not calling, not calling everyone out, but that's why I asked where you're running in Adelaide because we did get, now this is Stanton 199, we just say. Stanton, 199. 998 When you're in Adelaide, head to the trails in my.
Law, my law. I know my law. I've never run the trails up in my law. But what did they? What did Stanton have to say about the? Well, that's what she just said. Tell Liam to go up to. So this is, I think I've actually run, well, not run, but I think I actually went up this way. There's a place called the Heissen Trail, which is where anybody who's listening to this, who went to high school in Adelaide might have done a school camp out there because it's one of those classic
camping. You know, when the at high school, you get taken out on the camp where you go, we're going to camp for 2-3 nights and then you walk a bit during the day. This is the, the Heissen Trail is, is sort of famous for that. So yeah, there's a heap of heap of National Park out there to run around the. Heysen Trail, it finishes at now it's going to be Saint Mary's Peak, but what's the what's the area? I'm going to have to go and look it up and now you'll know as soon as it's lost.
No, no, this is like where the Heysen ends up going is. Cape Jarvis. Flinders Rangers. Flinders Oh, is that where it ends The other way I'm. Pretty sure right? And Saint Mary's Peak. I'll tell you if someone asked me, my, my best, my best feeling ever running. Yeah. When was it? I can pinpoint it, pinpoint it to the 200 metres. Wow. And funny enough, you mentioned the Heisen Trail.
It wasn't on the Heisen Trail, but it was in the Flinders Ranges. I went up to Mount Saint Mary's Peak and there's a trail that came back down from Saint Mary's Peak to the, I don't know, the homestead or whatever's at the bottom of Flinders Ranges. And it was just this bitter trail that the, the sun was kind of just rising at the right time. It was enough of a wide enough running trail. It was good under foot.
And it was just one of those where you're kind of like agility wise, you're kind of like jumping off 1 rock down to the next. But it was it just flow. It was like a mountain bike. It was like riding a mountain bike running. And I still to this day remember running it going this is this is running. That is still the best 200 metres of my life running. Now here's the I actually had a GoPro on at the time. And this is this is going back a while ago, before it was like
automatic stabilisation. And it was that morning I didn't have the stabilisation on. So all I've got is just a rummy jump, which is probably great. You know what? Because, you know, I remember it in my head. I was guess I remember it, forget the footage, I remember it. But yeah, Flinders Rangers running around there is. Magic I love that you have been able to tell us a story about your favourite 200 metres of. 100 metres. It's a great climb, I think.
You know the sad thing, I've got a feeling they've closed the climb. OK. Saint Mary's Peak. The that idea of now, as you telling that story, I'm trying to trying to identify my best ever or favoured or most memorable 200 metres of running 200 metres or just but even you're. Just segment you're just best best. Because if I, if I think about it, UTA, there was some, the UTA 50s I've done, there's been some really nice special moments.
The the thing that actually the moment memorable moments of those races I can remember is the descent, which is 8 KS of brutal downhill. I can just remember the speed that you were going down there and then I remember the horrible feeling of going up the finishing the furthest steps at the end, but. There's nothing good about Kunani. That's not. You're not going to. That's my best. Ever. No, no, no, no. There's. Nothing in I'm going to say this, there's nothing in UTA where I'd go.
That's my best ever 100 metres. Running one side got up that sort of rock hopping section at Kanani earlier this year and then running before the stairs to the final summit. Yeah. So you're under the organ pipes. Under the organ pipes that. Is that's a very nice. That was an amazing, I can remember the feeling of running along there too. The other one that actually jumps to mind. Funnily enough I think it might have been the first time I ever ran in carbon plate shoes.
I reckon I had a pair of ASICS. What are ASICS carbon plates called? The one of meta speeds. Meta speeds. I reckon I had a pair of the first ever pair of ASICS meta speeds I owned. I was competing in a ASICS, had that Ecaden Relay, National International thing. I was running with a bunch of the Sydney crew. I was still living in Sydney and I had to go out and punch out my section of the Ecaden, which was a 5K section and I had these ASICS meta speeds.
I'd never run in them before and I wanted to obviously post a fast time. And so I went and set myself up at the probably the most elevated section on the loop of Centennial Park, and I ran. It gives you a little gradual downhill down to the Randwick Horse Gates. And so I ran down there and then I ran out and I ran back up Anzac Parade and then ran back into the park and then kind of found another little downhill section again. So I made it favourable for myself.
The reason it's memorable is because I still remember running and feeling fast. Yeah, and that's the only time I've ever run under 19 minutes for a 5K run. I ran an 1845, which is my PB, but I still recall the sensation of and I don't know how much of it was the the shoes, how much of it was the training I was going at the moment, but I still remember that's inside. That's the IT. All. Faster. It's just I've ever felt running the. Best you've felt. Fastest I've ever felt running.
I'll ask it now because I'll forget. So I was running around Centennial Park on last weekend. Is there an etiquette of which way you need to run? Around there, isn't it? Is it? So when you're on the path running, because this is on a Sunday morning and it was Geekers, Yeah. Is there like a is it? Is it kind of like unsaid you just run anti clockwise around there? Which way did you? Run. Oh, sorry, Clockwise, Clockwise. Did you run clockwise?
I ran clockwise. And you were running on the inside white fence or the path the path you've made life hard for yourself there as in the the the concrete path it. Was like, yeah, the main concrete. Yeah, but it's tough. No, but most people were going there because most people were going there. Because on a Sunday, not only do you have the runners, you've also got the prams and you've also got the kids on bikes that can't ride on the road. That is a tough run.
It was on the path. It was, it was mainly runners what I would do. Is jump inside of the white fence and run the the the dirt, the dirt, yeah, that that I find is a better run I. Is it, is it, Is it like if you go there, like if anyone's listening and you're just not a Sydney side or if you happen to rock up to Centennial Park, is it like you should probably given you should run clockwise? My attitude is that you run clockwise everywhere. You don't around a track. Oh my gosh, you don't?
Why don't they run clockwise? So as a runner, that was a question I asked was this is normal? Like do what? Did they say what? Did everyone say no? One really kind of gave me a straight answer, but it seemed to be most people were running that way except the odd one who was causing chaos coming at us. I for me, for the years I lived in Sydney and ran in Sydney and ran Centennial. Oh, it's a right hand turn. Yeah, I'm doing right hand turns. OK. Yeah, well.
I'll come back to that, but that is Saint Mary's place. Oh, beautiful. Flinders Ranges. Yep, Yep. So coming down there is bloody amazing. But I also remember when you were just touching on those organ pipes up the top of Kanani. Yeah, that's another section. And I ran up there one day with a group from Salomon and we're all just running along. There was more of a filming training run. Yeah, I had no idea it was
snowing at the top of the time. So we went under the organ pipes and started getting a little bit of like ice on the path turned to go up that steep, the steep sex session, which was just iced up the whole way. So it was a really interesting day. So great part. Of we should give a shout out to Speaking of snow and ice, shout out to all right, but a member of member of the in the beginning. Board podcast. Yes, Mr Kelso and Congrats. He's also just had a little girl. Oh wow.
Yeah. Was that his first? Don't know, but he well, first, second, third, whatever the the new addition is. Congratulations Ryan. But what we saw? He sent me is besides besides seeing all the pics of the new arrival is Armadale copped snow, a lot of snow. Oh, even even got onto Higgins storm chasers. What? That's a. That's a dump. That's a dumping. It's yeah. So New England. I'd, I'd been warned or been heard through my brother in Oh. Really. Thanks, Andrew telling us.
There we go. Top of Mount Barney so it even snowed in QLD. It snowed in Queensland. Love to hear it. What's? Barney, The thing is about one 1300 metres. Just about. But Armadale, yeah, like Ryan that was. And the boys are out in their dickies having a run in the snow. So great to see. Hey, last week on the pod I wanted to bring this up because we share half baked ideas and quite often we we throw them out into the ether. But if someone's going to take them.
Someone stole them. Just a little shout out. That's all I ask. Just a little shout out just to say inspired as inspired. In fact, maybe that's what we need. We just need a It's just as inspired by In the Beginning podcast, OK. I'm looking, I'm looking forward to hearing this, Liam, if we could have trademarked it. LSKD. Right. LSKD Jason Daniels, You know
what you've done. You've heard last week's podcast and in the space of five days you've come up with the concept and with all the power and resources that you have, you've put together an event blatantly stolen from last week's podcast, It's called Chase the Five. Now, I don't actually think that they've stolen this podcast because I'm sure that they've had this in the works for a lot longer. I might think we were talking about it stolen from them. What was it? I have no idea.
This is last week you and I talked about the idea of these events and the way they can work and you were saying that it's kind of a start finish line type concept, whereas I was much more leaning into the idea of an arena type, the DJs events. So LSKD running for those that don't, that is the the offshoot of LSKD, the athletic wear brand. They've got a dedicated running department which I really like and I I think they do some really cool stuff.
A post came out a couple of days ago from LSD running. Something big is coming to Brisbane. This is Chase, the 5A track event built for crews, competitors and anyone chasing that fast 5K feeling. So it's very similar to AG one put on puts on a similar event in Sydney called Night of the PBS. But LSKD running chase, the five run solo run with your crew. Just bring the energy, good vibes, loud support and a little
pressure on the clock. Every runner scores an exclusive medal with the exclusive gear, plenty of prizes up for grabs. So that's an event that's coming to Brisbane at a track arena, so. So will you explain to me the goal is you go along and run your best 5?
Yep, a 5K run OK. Not your idea, it was, well it was last week, but hang on. This has been ripped off and I don't know if they ripped it off from someone else, but Gold Coast Runco. So they did this at Runaway Bay last, I think they've done it for two years now in a row. Come along. They had five paste races to run your PB at over 5K. But you? But what's the rule, Courtney? It's all about marketing. Who's marketing it the best What does Gold Coast runco call their
night? What does Gold Coast Runco call when they have their event? Because this is what I'm. This is it comes back to chase the five AG one calls their event nine of the PBS, which. I don't remember any. I mean, there's. Nine of the PBS I I kind of like because it's it's in the name. It's what are they? It's AG19 of the PBS. So they've, oh, they've got another one coming up too. They're doing another one in September in Sydney. Who's that AG one? They're having their nine of the PBS.
For any Sydney runners who listen to this, it's Sylvania Waters Athletics Track in the Sutherland Shire, a flat and fast 5K track event for runners of all abilities. Whether you're chasing a personal best, looking for a fun Friday night hit out, or just want to soak in the electric atmosphere, this event the is for you. So theirs starts at 5:30 PM and concludes by 845 S. It's three hours, there's six races, one's a relay. But there's it's all about energy and and excitement and
enthusiasm. I just get the sense that this LS KD-1 that's happening up in Brisbane will be with the resources and the branding that that brand has and does. I think it'll be an exciting event for any SE Queensland based listens. I'm, I am so annoyed, I can't remember the name of this, but I know because my brother and there's a whole group of people wanting to go and and run on the track and do their PBS. Yeah.
So it's literally like you could you go in the race where if you want to run a 15 minute race, you'll have a PESA. And if you wanted to run a 20 minute, yes, 5K, there's a PESA. Yeah, so definitely calling it out. It's not. Well, we said this last week, there's no new idea. It's just everyone is going to say it's the same as that Illy song I've brought up before. Yeah, there's no ideas. There's no new.
I'm just going to put a new spin on it and say I was first to do it. Nothing new under the sun, it's all about branding and who can make theirs the most memorable. So. But look again. I think we are going to see more and more of these types of as much as the marathon is booming. Yeah, it's not a pivot, but it's also it's just another Ave for people to explore. They're running with these shorter events which create that
party like atmosphere. Yeah, well, that's a, that's a good Segway because you talk about unless you hear about it or unless you see it, you don't know about it. It's like that old fable, you know, tree falls in the forest. Exactly. You hear it unless you're there. Yeah. On the weekend here in Queensland there was the Sunny Coast Half which your best mate Andy. Funny, you best mate, Andy began. Broke the Australian record. I no, I think he brought, I saw this.
I think he broke the course record. I don't actually think because I saw his time and I saw and again, it's all about branding and how it's represented, right. But he actually his time. I'm I'm trying to look it up here. So another, so another huge event happening on this. I mean, we had Gold Coast Marathon, we got Sydney coming up. There's this running, running, running, but what I want to bring attention to always bring attention to the small ones as
well on the same weekend. Get this, this the Rainbow Bay had or Rainbow Beach, what do they call it, Rainbow Beach or Rainbow Bay. Rainbow Beach also had a trail marathon on, so you could go to the sunny Coast and run along the Esplanade on the road or you go just a bit, you know another, what is it? Probably by the time you drive around to Rainbow Beach, it's another 75 K up and it was along the sand up through the big Carlos sand below. I think it's called Tough, Tough marathon, right?
Probably a bit of soft sand in there, finish along the beach, go around Double Island Point. Amazing spectacle, amazing run. Now that was on the same weekend as the Sunny Coast Half and both races full. Yeah, if that it doesn't tell you something about running at the moment, nothing will. Like both races chock a block and I can't believe they put like, I wonder what happened there. Why would you put two of a very similar race in a similar
destination? When I say a similar race, obviously one's trail or 1 sand trail and one's road, but still. I mean 2 pretty major running events in that area for the year and they whack them on one on each day. It's I'm just, I'm thinking in real time about whether it's a, a great move or a terrible move or whether it's both because I guess the fact that they were both sold out shows that or the popularities, the audience is there to serve both consecutively. What did we lose by them being
on the same weekend? Maybe a bit of spotlight, maybe a bit of shine. What did we we gain? I don't know. But probably it's the reason they probably wanted that date I would guess is from a conditions perspective because in that area particularly the heat would be a factor and if they can find this weekend to make it conducive just to go back. Just to I'm just looking at the trail, I'm not sure whether it did sell out the Trail 1. Oh, OK, but just to go back to the Suncon Coast man and he's
and he broke the course record. He didn't break because he broke Brett Robinson, his old mate Brett Robinson's course record. So he ran a 1/02/13 which is slower than what he ran at Gold Coast for the half and it's much slower than Andy. Yeah, Brett's half marathon Australian record, which I think is under an hour so, but he is running really, really. Well off training camp up there in, up in. Where were they? Cairns. He's running super well I think. Is he running Sydney?
Full, you'd know as much as. Brett Robinson definitely is, but I'm not sure if if Andy's running the full Mara. But hey all I'll say to this and talk about taking credit for the 5K concept. Ever since Andy and I met he's, he's running well. Do you reckon? He's running real well. Your interview was a bit of a good. One, I am like the the lucky Buddha whose belly you rub. You know, those tourist
destinations for runners. So if you see me out on a run one day, come up and rub my belly and you'll probably run a PB. Hey, while we're talking about events, let's just keep on that long. So I did have a few like people are loving that we get to call out one, the local events, Yeah. And there's two that popped up this week, one that really has me interested. The first one, though, and it was run on the weekend. So I'm sorry, we, we, we missed this one.
But it there was rumble in the jungle, which is down near coughs. So trail race coughs Best of coughs trails 50K30K218 on the Gold Coast next to your house. Oh, the border Bolt border. Bolt was on the weekend. So this literally runs past my. Back fence, Yep, goes up into the along the border trail. So this is a race that goes well. It's the NSW, Queensland border as it sounds, and you just run it, but it's got a lot of verd in it. That's not an easy run.
I as some I go up there and and to get into that actual section, there's some really nasty stairs section. It's not a. It's. Yeah, it's, I wouldn't say it's the most runnable of trail runs. There's a lot of walking uphill. There's a lot going on, but the one I'm really excited about and you'll love the this one because it's come from the crew Kinani. We love the crew, Kinani.
They've teased, I'm just going to say teased because I don't know the full details here yet, but it's called the diverged sky runs and they're going to go over to the West Coast of Tasmania. So the Wild Coast and it looks like rigid, it looks like 3. So they've got a brand new three day sky and trail running festival for runners ready to step just outside of their comfort zone. They're going to the to the ridges to the climbing.
This one's going to be hectic. And I straight away said count me in. This is count me in. So there's not a lot of detail. We'll we'll as it kind of comes to a fruition, we'll tell you more I. I think this is this is very indicative of you and I as runners and what appeals to us. Yeah, because we, I think we have a lot of fun with the elite average dynamic that exists between you and I. You are an elite runner who has been to Olympic Games. This is your job.
And you are still an elite at endurance athlete. I am probably more representative of our audience, the running community at the moment. Someone who enjoys running, someone who does it for fun, but who still likes to try and get the better set of myself. An event like LSKDS, Chase the Five or Not at the PB. That appeals to you. That sip to me sounds really fun. That sounds really. And Yep, I like. I loved Konani earlier this year, but my eyes don't quite light up as much as yours does.
With you want to, you want to. I get the sense that you want to get a good run for. You might end up with you getting. Lost, yes, yeah, yes. A good run, I'll be really a good run for me is at some point in that run, there's enough adrenaline going that I'm like, oh shit, that one scared me getting to somewhere or some point. I even saw there was a downhill. Jen Davies sent it to me. There was a downhill the Golden Trail series in Europe on the weekend.
It was just like a mud pit going down this hill and I was looked at it and I went, oh, that looks so much fun. This is. This so that's that's just where you know, I suppose we're at now. It's like the adventure of you're going to find that out on Wednesday. You'll end up somewhere. I'm going to make sure you guys, if you see something and you think, wow, what's up that track or what's up that Creek, you've got to go up the Creek. You gotta figure out what's up I'm. Very much just.
Watch out for the stick. Just watch out for the sticking nettle. No down in that area. I'm very much like, well, let's go stick to the path. This is the trail. We're running the trail. Let's stay on the trail. I I love the idea of ignoring budget, ignoring logistics, ignoring everything else. I would love to create Courtney Atkinson's Oh shit runs, oh shit runs oh shit the oh shit. Series. There's been a few oh shit runs. What a cool, what an awesome
video idea. But in the beginning, In the beginning, oh SH runs. Oh shit. I reckon I've got enough video just sitting there that we could just do it anyway, yeah. Like. From his from back dating but yeah talk about this one up on the side like West Coast is wild when we used to race the Mark Webber challenge so the adventure racing the five days can we get. Him. What are you still makes with Mark? Oh, jeez, You. You can't call people out on the podcast. Yes, we can.
We've got people locked away. No. That's the point. No, see, I think you go about it the other way around. You call them out on the podcast and then you put the pressure on. No, no, no. One day, One day when, yeah, when we were down racing his challenge, there was always five days. But the thing was, I was naive enough in adventure at that time. I never, we never really looked on the map where we were that
day. You kind of just looked at the map, but at at no time did I ever think I'm in this part of Tasmania, like relative right. Like if you knew you were at like Launceston, I knew I was at Launceston, but sometimes you'd you'd go 250K that day. No idea which direction you're just looking at the map going. I'm following the you know, the the map. I'm going north, I'm going South or wherever I remember the West Coast. So it was it was the days it would well, one, it'll always
rain. I don't think I'd been on the West Coast racing in the his race where it hadn't been raining. It's always going to be muddy and shitty and just tough and everything else. But the videos that came up with this race, I'm like, yeah, OK, this one has got my interest. Yeah, look, I've just jumped on and I'm having a look at some of the videos they're producing for it. And I I agree, it does look pretty cool. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to quickly. I'll go through my running
before, yes. We go because, well, because you're always injured, so we never get to be running. Well, I'm not injured, I'm moving. Well, when I say well I'm back. I rent 70K this week. Wow, yeah, I know that was a bit of a surprise to me too. I didn't plan to to get through that much. But what it mean doing each day is just going out and pretty much just running to feel going out in the mornings.
I've done a lot of running up at the spit where the reason I run, and this is probably if anyone's listening and they're coming back from, you know, either coming back from injury or they're just not sure how they're feeling. I always think it's a great idea to park your car in an area that then you can, you can do, you don't have to run loops close to the car, but you can always get back to the car pretty quick. So if you think about it like an umbrella.
Yep. So you park in the on this stick of the umbrella and you can run loops around. Yeah. But if something happened and you're like, oh, that doesn't feel great. I can walk back. OK. Or jog back. OK. So that's what I've been doing up there. Plus, it's a beautiful place to go for a run anyway. I've just started ticking over to an hour, an hour, an hour. And just before I knew it, I'm like, oh, we're moving along OK
now. So I've gone through that process and I think I've got enough KS under the legs and enough kind of lifting at the same time. I've got the strength back and you know, things starting to feel. Great going. What are you running in at the moment? What shoes are you running in when you're doing those hours? Well, this is the news, Liam. I'm we are going to be able to talk about a range of shoes on this podcast.
I'm I'm have made a a move. I'm going to still be racing obviously when it comes to trail at the moment, you know, Solomon is still my go to, but I think this is going to add a lot of
value to our listeners. I'm going to be able to start talking about more of the road shoes I'm running in and get to trial more and more shoes because it's something that's interested me for a while and with all the different shoes coming on. So what I have had in the garage for the last few weeks is a pair of the new Vomeros. Oh, nice to run and I. So you've been running in them? I reckon I've run, probably, yeah, yes, I've run.
OK, So when I'm saying I've run in them I've reckon I've done and I'd have to look at Strava but I reckon I've knocked out probably a good 200K. OK, so here, OK, so we got Rd shoe free agent Courtney. Courtney Atkinson's feet are officially free agents when it comes to road running. How do you how are you going to talk to people about these shoes then? Because the when you get handed a pair of shoes, you can't review them. You actually need to spend time in them. 100.
Percent is 200 K sufficient for you to give a review now on the Nike of America? I think 200 K is, I mean, you can't talk about, you know, how much longevity they're going to have in them, but 200K is definitely enough. So what do you want to say about the? Night running merits. Love them. That's it, No. Courtney, you've just said you've just dropped this bombshell on us.
And for the people that love a shoe chat, you've just told us how great this news is going to be, how this new development means you're going to be able to talk about more shoes for the order of them. And that's the review you've given us. No, no. What, where, where, why I've, I suppose this one interests me because a lot we've I've talked in the last few weeks about how much rubber is stocked in a lot of these shoes. Now these the, the vomeros have a lot of rubber in them too.
Yeah, but it's, it's got they've like literally sandwiched the rubber in between. So they've got like they've two types of rubber, the Reactor and the Zoom X foam. Let's try not to mention foams, because every brain you go to has got their you know what? Foam is. It is. Foam's foam. But what I do like is let's talk about it in the sense of you've got a soft and a heart of foams and they've sandwiched it, which to me gives a little bit better stability in it versus just one
soft foam that's collapsing. That's the feel. I, I don't know the science behind these. Oh, this is the feel I get out of these ones. The next thing that I've liked about them is I feel like for a high statue, they've had maybe the better feel of actually sitting in there and feeling my forefoot than what I've had previously in some of the other kind of, let's say, high stack
rubber soft shoes I've got. So one of the things I've done when I've tried a few different pairs of shoes on lately, and a few of them has just been mates have given me their shoes. Hey, you have a try these when you sit and be after the run or whatever is I generally get, you know, a footfall in on the shoes. These are pretty neutral in the sense that I feel like I'm getting a straight run in them. That's good. I'm going to come back and give
you more information on these. But at the moment that as far as a jogger goes, and the other shoe that I've had been kind of playing around a little bit with is a Adidas Boston 13. OK, yeah, 12:00 I've got the Boston Twelves. They're the ones with the carbon rod as opposed to a plate. Correct. And then with the rod, I feel like I am getting a bit more moved, you know, and keep asking for. I want some movement in my foot.
I wanna feel my foot when I'm coming back from some of the stuff that's been going on. Yeah, I feel like I'm getting that. But they're a lot harder shoe, right? The rubber in them is is a lot harder, a lot harder than some of the kind of like let's say those, well, any of the other rubber shoes, including the Solomons I've been running in, which are the ultra, ultra aero, no aero glide on the road like a lot of rubber. These are like going back to a nearly like a track.
They nearly feel like a track spy, however you know they're two centimetres worth of rubber under. Them, it's interesting you mentioned those, the Boston Twelves and the feel because oh, I have actually, I reckon early on in the year when I was running, feeling good with my running, I was running in those a lot. That's what I ran my PB in for the half last year.
Really enjoyed running in them. And then when I came back from injury just recently and I started running in those again, I found my calves were really sore tight. Yeah. After a run in those shoes. I have been running a lot of my kilometres of light in the ASICS Kayanos. Yeah, right. Just a really simple foam shoe. And so for like those slow runs I'm going for, I am in the the new ASICS Kayanos and I feel
great. And there's a part of me in in my head, I'm telling myself this is not only are your legs feeling good after these runs, it's also better that you're training in the shoe with less for you. That's giving you less back from an energy return because then when you do put the specials on, you'll actually get even more out of it because your legs will be stronger because they've been doing the work. This is what I'm telling this.
Is what you're telling yourself. This is what I'm telling myself, but Speaking of SO. So the good news is if if anyone's got a this type of shoe, I'm like a kid in a candy store at the moment because I'm sitting here going, where do I go? What should I try? What should I try? Well, here's what. Where should I go? Here's. What I want you to do now from moving forward, you, you started
like this. I want you to you started as you mean to go on. You started by reviewing the Nike Vomero by saying I love them. Yeah, I've tried one pair and then I asked. I've tried one pair of. Shoes, you said. I love them, I asked you for more and then you gave us a huge review. So from now on, whenever you talk about a new shoe, it must begin with a three word review. Right. But you know. I'll be three word. Reviews, you know, the interesting thing. So I the Boston.
Yeah. It was this podcast that got me to go and buy the book because it wasn't. You'd run in them. Yeah. But I've never heard I'd never heard of anyone who runs in them because other people are riding in. They like the Boston. Yeah. And I've never heard of like no one not liking running in them. OK, so that intrigued me. There's a couple of our, let's call them the dad brands, even Brooks. Just say. It's an only Brooks.
There's a few other dad brands out there, New Balance, a few of them too that people have ridden in over. You know, they're kind of nearly getting closer to a year that we've been doing this and keep, you know, there's a, there's a few shoes that consistently come through that people like to jog in. Let's call them joggers like you. You're kind of easy runners. Let's call them the easy runners. I would say these S6 Kayanos are easy runners, Yeah.
But yeah. Hey, quickly on staying with shoes for a moment, Have you seen that they launched the major ASICS, the for the Sydney Mara shoot? Have you seen it? No, ASICS are bringing out a dedicated or a, what do you call it, not a collab, but in the same way that they've had the Tokyo and the Berlins signature, a signature shoot, that's the word I want. They have launched the TCS Sydney Marathon ASICS Nova Blast 5. Also, oh, you've got. It and I've got it there for you.
What do you think? Initial thoughts, Yeah. Oh well, it's bland it, I thought. It was so I so, and here's the thing, why is it blue? It's meant to reflect the colours of Sydney. I actually really there. There's some details in it, the back stripe. I'll show it to you again here with the IT almost feels like an old school Dunlop volley stylistically. It's got the date of the race on the brand as well. So that's the signature. It's all like about the little. Details.
There are some really cool little details, but the colour that scheme they're gone with of the cream upper with the dark cobalt blue, essentially soul. If you said Sydney, what colour, what colour palette would you think? I mean, I do have a blue in mind. I do have a blue. I just would have gone something a bit bolder and put almost the blue as the upper. I just would have gone something a bit, I don't know, something a little bit more dynamic. Yeah, yeah.
Oh well, I mean it's great that they like. I love that there's a signature. Shoe, 100%. I love it. A lot of people come, they not only can buy a T-shirt, you know you can buy the shoe for whatever event you're at and really buy into it, right? And support the sponsors that support those events. I would have almost even gone if you're going with that dark
cobalt. I might have gone a lighter blue on top, like NSW is the Blues, like you know, from a rugby league perspective, I would have lent into the blue a little bit more as well. See where you're going? But that's just, it's not a this is like a deep sea to me. That's a charter fishing blue, yes. It's not a NSW State of Origin representative blue, sky blue, sky blue. OK, it's not a sky like I could
have understood sky blue. Look, the other way I would have actually gone is just, I was like, put the Opera House on the thing. Oh, that would cost some dollars. Would it? Don't they? Who owns that? Don't Sydney own it? Will cost dollars. Well, the Harbour Bridge cost to go up if. You want to put if you want to commercially put the Opera House in a photo that's attached to some type of brand or a van or anything like that, dollars. OK.
If you want to put an event on at the Opera House, not in the Opera House, at the Opera House for sure there dollars and I'm talking, I'm not going to say, but it's dollars like dollars with like lots of, lots of dollars on it. Yeah. Let me let me try and pivot then let me try and find a low cost solution. Just to add something a bit more to it. I love that the dates on it of the race. What about if you had the course map or the harbour outline or some sort of further Insignia that?
See that that that starts to go down a route. We start to, you know, we're just talking about the, the, the, the shoe. I had something in my head now and then when you picked up on the, the Harbour Bridge. I've lost it, but that's OK. No, no. The reason I we raced. Oh, I've got it. I remembered it very quickly. Quick story, you talk about the cost of putting any Insignia on that sort of stuff using the Harbour Bridge. It jumped to mind.
I was at a lunch the other week where there's a fella by the name, I think it was Mick Collis. Who? Hilarious. Look him up. Mick Collis was the captain or or he's represented Australia in the first ever Sudoku team. He always had a dream of representing Australia. Like you, Courtney, being an Australian representative wasn't good enough as an athlete. He's married to former Australian water polo player, his best mates of Wallaby. Like he's surrounded by all these people that have got to
wear the green and gold. He's got this, he's written a book about it. He's got this incredible story. I think there's a documentary about about how he started the first ever Sudoku team. But one of the funny parts of the story, it's all hilarious, but one of the really funny parts was he designed. All he ever wanted to do was represent in Australia. And so when he made this team, he made up the uniform. I can see I'm looking at it.
Now there's a great line in the presentation that he does. It it, it looks like it's exactly like one of the Olympic Blazers I've got up in. And he's what the the line he delivers in his in his speech is that people always ask me what's the process to getting the Australian coat of arms put on a uniform? And the answer is none. I don't know. He never asked ask for. Forgiveness got it made in Bali. So good luck.
I just look I just when you just wrote, I said you got to look him up. I looked him up and the first thing I saw, because you were telling me about Sudoku, Sudoku, Sudoku, Sudoku, Sudoku pronunciation, pronunciation shite. The first thing it says he's an author, a writer and a rugby. And then it's a commentator. Yeah, yeah, he's it's I thought, I thought you were like selling him He short. Now he actually played as because it looks like an Australian rugby.
That's exactly the blazer he made up. He he made up four different uniforms for this Sudoku team and the and the funniest line as he headed over to the World Championships in India. As he turned to the captain of the team and said, I'm a bit nervous. And the captain said, why? He said, I've never done a Sudoku before. It's a great story anyway.
Well, let's move back on. We'll go back on back to my yeah, well, I'll finish off my running because I talked about it. I got back up to 70K but then I did get down on the weekend and luckily I did because I would have ended up at probably 85 K down to Sydney for for Sunday. It was last Sunday and Rebel Sport have been, I suppose combining with their partners that also sponsors the city to surf and doing a run club each week.
Great out of 98. So I was at the Sydney Swans where you told me it's Moorpark, which I now know. Yep, easy run across the Centennial. I didn't realise I was so close. What what great, great little event there for the for the morning. But what got me was how many of the runners, when I was chatting to them, this is their very first run for the city, like this is their first race in the city to surf. So completely new to running, haven't been running.
And then this was like the way this run club was set up is that's your first port of call. If you don't have mates, if you don't have a run club, come and join us and we'll run for the 8 weeks leading up to City to Surf and get you there.
So great little initiative. I did get to run around Centennial with a a splendid best, a Sergeant from one of the Navy, a Sergeant of one of the instructors of the Navy divers out of Sydney. I might and I was like, if there's anything I wouldn't have could have done outside of let's say going through an endurance sport thing.
The next best thing was like somehow being involved in CERT, police, special forces, armed forces, special forces, whatever it is, has always intrigued me. Even all like the spy stuff and everything, but you've got to listen to some of his stories around more so not about him and his deployments, but more about him now training the young guys. Sure. And the difference that's changed in 15 years between, you know, how they get treated now, what their fitness regime is
like. I want to go in there and find out what they're doing because they were might be ahead of the game. Nah, that's all technology these days. Technology. It's all tech. You reckon they don't need to be? Nah, that's. All you just need to be able to push a button. I bet you the, I bet you, I bet you the SAS and a few of those boys have got something. Oh, hold on.
Yeah, don't put the SAS on me. The to take it back to running and and City of Surf. I think it's going to be a really I'm really interested to see the how how that race pans out this year finish because not so much to finish just because this is the biggest fun run in the world. I think 90,000 people take part in this, but it's also it's the first city to surf post run. Boom. Yeah, this is a, you know, we saw do. You reckon it's more boom than last year?
Yeah. I don't think it's, I think it's gone on what you just said. You're at this Rebel Run Club thing where all these people were going to run this thing for the first time. And that kind of and there's, there's definitely people looking for tickets. So I, I think I'm curious to see, I'll be fascinated to see what the socials are, what the brand activations are just because it's the Voltaran City Surf.
So you've got a new name where I've sponsored this year in Voltaran. When you jump on the website, world's largest fun run, iconic and achievable 14K Sydney's biggest dance party, Bondi Beach vibes, finish line bling this even super like even the branding of the event seems to be tighter and more punchy. So yeah, do you think? Actually, I'll ask you in a minute one thing, if you are running listening today or on Sunday and you are running City to Surf tomorrow, Red Bull. Yep.
Partner of the event have down at Rose Bay. We're calling it the flying Sprint. So A1K Strava segment. You'll be you won't you won't you won't miss it because when you get there, it will. And now it starts at Jewel on the sea, which I don't know what that is, but so this is before heartbreak Hill at Rose Bay. You'll see literally Red Bull bunting. You'll see a Red Bull. They won't. It won't be across the road, but like a star area, it's bang on.
AKI made the seg. I've actually made the segment myself, so it's one point O 4K, but that just allows for people like when you hit the mark, they make sure you're in it. Now here's the kicker, the best male. So if you know, if you know any of these elite runners, the fastest male and fastest female up for grabs. If you're the quickest through that 1K segment, a trip to Japan to run in the Red Bull 400, which is up the ski jump.
I love this. We're going to challenge that now because we said city to serve prize. The winner gets 2 1/2 grand, right? Yeah. First male, first female for that 1K segment. Red Bull are putting up trip trip to Japan to run at the Red Bull 400. This is the next fights they. Will all accommodate. This is the next evolution of running events. So we you'll know when you're in that anyone who's running it, you'll know when you're in that zone.
The good thing is, go back in your Strava after it, have a look at the segment you'll be able to compare your K split to, you know, the fastest elite runners, your mates and whatever else. What is Strava doing? Aside from obviously the the segment being active, what else is Strava they're doing to get behind this? Because the this is set lights off in my brain.
This is such a great idea. This is this is just being driven more localised as far as like, you know, when you go through the Expo to pick up your, your dockets and all that, you'll, that will Red Bull be there to be able to give you a can and tell you what's going on. But as far as Strava goes, no, I mean, it's just a segment. Because when you think about, when I think about.
So the Noosa Try has for those that never done Noosa Try, the Noosa Try has Garmin Hill, which is the one real climb that exists on the bike. But they they take the timing into, they actually have the timing set up within their race results. So it's a part of that, but that's the way Garman gets some branding within the race and it's a part of the event overall.
What you're doing here with Red, what Red Bull and you are doing here with the City to Surf is finding a way to activate within the race itself utilising Strava. I love it. I think it's such an or and this kind of comes back to, I think we had a conversation a few EPS back talking about the idea of runner and Strava becoming one and then thinking, OK, So what is the evolution of Strava going
to be? I can see this concept Strava going like if I'm Strava and seeing you guys doing this, I'm thinking we need to be doing this at running events, at all the big running events around the globe. Yeah. Well, what we talked about, I'm sure it probably is. I, I don't know off the top of my head, a great. Idea. It wouldn't be new, I'm sure there's Strava segments in other events. Yeah, but it's a really cool
one. The good one, the good, the good part of this one is, is you know, it all ties together I suppose. So you, you know, you can go to the Expo, find out about it, but remember it. But you don't have to do anything extra. No, it will just be, It will just be when you go back through your result and look at how you're comparing it to your mates. I'm sure everyone will compare Heartbreak Hill. Yeah, everyone will compare.
You know what time they've run? Well, you can also how quickly you run the flat at Rose Bay 'cause that's about one of the only flat spots in that race. It's a tricky race, Yeah, it's a tricky race. Finishes at. Char Grill Charlie's. I believe I had that for dinner on Saturday night. Jewel on the Bay, little it begins. Jewel on the Bay. Basically you run past the golf course on your right hand side and then as you hit the shops there Char Grills was on your
right again and. Then you know the area I've. Yeah, this is my old running haunt. Yeah, and then you hit Char Grills and then you'll hit the base of Heartbreak Hill. And then. I love the idea actually, though, that anybody don't gas yourself trying to nail the Red Bull station. No, no, because if you are not ready to run and you gas yourself, that next hill is misery. You're gonna, you're gonna battle.
Yeah. So I'm looking forward to see if any of the if any of the elites go well, we can win, but I wouldn't mind winning this as well. Dangling that trip to Japan, that is an incredible carrot. But again, I am really next week on the pod. I'll be I'll come ready to debrief because I think this is the first city to surf post run bubble, proper run bubble. And as the biggest fun run in the world.
I'm, I'm really, really fascinated to see what the how it plays out, how the biggest fun run in the world plays out in the midst of the running boot. There you go. Alright, good luck to anyone having a run. And it's great to be running injury free and to stay that way. We'll see you next week. See you next week.