In the beginning episode 42 and back to the one a week schedule Courtney for the moment for the moment actually, yeah we are going we are going to do a special special guest coming special GC we're just going we've got a. Special enough guest in New Liam because I had a note this week he's been back in the news. Back. In the Keenan Jacobs sent me this in and he said I'm sorry Liam, but we, we, we have to talk about this.
Hello, Liam Flanagan. Speaking of Caleb Stiff, Bailey Humphrey. He's just described that you don't wanna do this to Bailey Humphrey. Big contest. Bailey Humphrey. Stan, this is a young man who the Giants will not want to start feeling himself 'cause when he does, he's capable of anything. Jay Bolt when he feels himself, he feels good. Wow, wow, that's got true. Wow, he's. Dealing with I. Don't know what he's going on there, Liam Flanagan, but again. You knew what he meant. I burned.
Did you? Yeah, not really actually Speaking of knowing what he meant. Your mate again, Stevie J Bill, then yeah, then we. Yeah, This is Bernie. Bernie, Vince, this. You're not more about this podcast than I do. They're your family mate. This is from. Triple M, This is Triple M footy. It's the Saturday rub. Bernie Vince, former Adelaide grow Melbourne Demon ripping bloke.
He's on breaking radio down in Adelaide and he does a basically, I can't remember what the segment's called, but every Saturday he goes through and basically takes the absolute piss out of his fellow Triple M. It's. Bernie's enough for the week. No, not for the week, sorry for the week, not for the week. I don't think I was enough for the week. But yeah, enough of the week is when he basically goes and takes audio from mostly radio, but TV or basically when people stuff things up.
What that was in reference. I was down in Sydney. It was the GWS Gold Coast game. Now, I thought cards on the table, nothing if not honest with the in the beginning family. I thought I was being cool. I thought I was using the slang that the kids use when they refer to feeling themselves, as in like feeling confident in themselves. That's the terminology right now. I used it on a station whose target demographic is 40 year olds plus, so I probably didn't
pick the audience. Right, Right. And fair to say, Jude Bolton and Brad Seymour, who were calling the game with me, did not support me whatsoever. I was you. You were called out on the spot. I was. Jude and Brad both turned and looked at me and said, what are you talking about? And I actually played that to Bailey Humphrey. Bailey Humphrey came in studio after that game and I played that audio to him and even he reacted. He even even even reacted with I don't think you can say that on
radio. So look, the the part of being a footy commentator is you're always updating your phrase book. You're always learning new words, adding new words, finding new ways to describe things that. Is now gone. Is deleted. Don't say that to your kids. Don't say that's a. That has been deleted from my from my phrase book, so thank you. Yes, let's leave that. Thank. You, Bernie, thank you. To who? Who sent that in? Keenan Jacobs. Thank you, Keenan, you've made your point.
You're not gonna get away with any. No, you've made your point now. Here you've had. It was a good call though. Good call. That was a great game. The and then the I've called since then. I've called the Suns win over the Melbourne so oh. That was Sunny's back. That was a. Cup and I bumped into a high performance big boss riggers Alex Rigby. Oh, Yep, I don't think he's riggers have to say. Well, I think he was just relieved that they got a win,
frankly. Now, the reason I thought you were going to be you thought I was in the news is because I've been hit up for a few people saying that. What have you done now? Well, all of a sudden go to collect my bib, go to get ready for the Gold Coast Marathon, pick up my official marathon. Oh, we. Finally got the photos up. No, no, I'm trying to. I'm I'm hastily racing through the marathon programme so I can get to the page and read it. It's a big news this week, though. Here we go.
Well, you're not running the marathon. But this is what I wanted. To show you. OK, I won't. I won't ruin it just yet then. The commentary team, Yes, for the Triple M Gold Coast Marathon, you got Triple M Gold. Coast Marathon, You mean what did it be called? The ASICS Gold Coast Marathon? I'm still in radio. Don't say that. But now don't say that. Talk about saying things do not. I'll give you a tip. I'll give you a commentary tip down there on the on the finish line.
So Liam's gonna be calling you across the line in the both the half and the full. Right. And then I'm trying to get to Yep. And we don't want to hear it's a triple M Make sure you call it the correct name. I'm. Gonna have to take Speaking of deleting things from my brain. Southern Cross University, 10K. Yes, the ASICS. ASICS. Gold Coast Marathon ASICS. Gold Coast half? No, no, it's ASICS. Gold Coast Marathon for sure. I don't know what the half is.
I'm assuming. I'm assuming the half's ASICS as well. I am. If you, if you haven't picked up your marathon handbook already, I'm in there, I'm in there. I'm gonna be working alongside the great Pete Murray, which I'm excited about, the voice of Iron Man in Australia. Man, of course Noosa try across
the line, heaps of stuff. So I like the little sledge though, which was in there delivered by somebody at Emq who said, well, Liam had planned to be on the start line as a runner this year and untimely injury saw him sideline so. Hey, we I'm a big believer and things are meant to be Liam. And this is This Is Us. This is for the podcast. That's it. There's a shared end of the podcast in there too. Is it?
Yeah, yeah. So look, not going to be running, but really, really excited that Saturday and Sunday I'm gonna get to cause I've never experienced that finish line vibe as a non runner. So I'm really looking forward to being there on both days. I will say this, if you're listening to this in time before you finish, if you're running half 10, whatever it is, or the full on the Sunday, come find me on the line. Come find me, Come and say g'day. Come and you know, tell me your
name, introduce yourself. I'll, I'll pump up as many of you as I can. I want to give special love to all the in the beginning podcast listeners as they finish their races. So if you if you see me, come find me. I'll be the short 1. There'll be Pete, nice tall fella, good looking Rooster with a deep voice and I'll be the other one. And I'll be just waving till you're having the morning beers mate. From up in here actually.
I I bumped into Bronte this morning and she just gotten her corporate passes into that little section. She's very. I am gonna be watching, Yeah, we'll, we'll be above you watching you at work, mate. And. I don't know how I like. That you don't know if you're like, hey, plenty of pump. We're gonna be pumping the podcast for the whole weekend. So yeah, we are. We are now enough, enough bagging me out. Frankly, I wasn't ready for
either of those. I've had, I've had my fair share of my. Time across. This for these weeks. Well, let's talk some running news. What's going on? Let's talk. The big one is and you know, Western states. So I'm I'm. Hopefully, hopefully most runners have heard of western states, even those roadrunners and marathons that listen to us. It's the oldest 100 mile trail race in the world apparently if
you go by their website. It is the, it's the big one that I know my friends who are good runners, really good runners, Anna McKenna share that. Anna, who's a great trail runner out of Noosa, that's the one she keeps trying to qualify for
every year. Yeah. Everyone wants to get in, so there's limited you've got to even the elites have to go close and like someone's going to correct me very close to winning a major 100 mile run just to get a ticket to it. So it's not even easy for, you know, the elites to get there, but it actually makes sense being, you know, that everyone watches Western states. You know, we've talked a lot about how does a race become iconic? It's the oldest race.
Yeah, it's probably probably helps, you know, it's across a beautiful, beautiful location, everything else. So there's it's 161 kilometres in our terms, 5500 metres avert and 7000 metres of descent in it. Now the winner this year of the the men. And for the moment, I was just we'll we'll get the can you get the results up for the women as well? So we can make sure we're cover that. But it's more about just the state of running I wanted to focus on here. So Caleb is a Nike runner runs.
He won the event in 14 hours and 11 minutes, so flying for 100 and. 60. Crazy, crazy, but what I want to call out. So killing and John A, probably one of the best known, not just runners, but endurance athletes on the planet. He got he came in 3rd and there was another guy in the race as well. He's been doing a heap of YouTube stuff called mountain He he goes by the handle mountain Roach on Instagram and YouTube and all of that. It's interesting the difference.
So Caleb Olson who won runs for Nikes has a following of 11 point 5011. 1/2 thousand people are following him compared to killing him. 1.8 million has. Killing got 1.8 million. Yeah, and then let's look it up on the numbers. But what's crazy is I love, This is why I love trail. It's it's still in such a an area of like, you know, this is where you find people. You can still runners can still go there. And Caleb was, I think he's had one of the best first time first, first.
Is that his first? No, it wasn't. But as he was one of the I think he's had the quickest time for the the how do you say that? Debbie, Tom, Debbie is on. Oh, wow. Ever. But, you know, I'm just surprised, like the winner of Western States, the biggest trail race in the world. There's a lot of people watching it and, and you know, this is just how hard it is for running. Someone here we haven't heard of? Really. Well, I'd heard, I know. I've definitely heard of him
because I've seen him. They the interest. We'll get to the shoes a bit later on, but there's a lot of let's say prototype shoes being run. Oh, now that a lot of the, you know, let's say the first ten were running in shoes that are like specially made for them for that event, which is really interesting cause in marathons, you know, we see a few prototypes, but they normally release it prior to the event. MMM trail bit different.
They're all running in certain prototypes, majority of them. Interesting. Yeah, we'll go through that later in the episode if you hang around. Did you want the women's results? I do. Want the women's? Results the whole of the US. So just for context, same course the Abby you finished, I think it was the 4th fastest women's time ever. She came in in 16 hours, 37 surgery, about two hours 20 behind the men's women. But she is a she's been just reading up on Abby very quickly.
Basically it was almost a a post to post win for Abby. She sounds like she dominated for most of the race, but she has been a really good 100K runner for the last 5-6 years and this was her first big mile win. 100 mile win. So well done, I mean. Just think 14 hours, 16 hours, it's crazy fast. So these are quick. It is like one of the more runnable courses and quick ones. But yeah. Yeah. So that was no Aussies in the top ten. No, but shout out to to Dan Jones.
Interesting. We've talked about Dan on here before around my what? He was the guy. I was telling him the story about rappelling off the bridge. That's right. Interesting to know. I just and this is sort of apple of nothing is and I know it's a race that takes part is is in America, but the US dominate that. I would kind of just thought the Europeans might have been more dominant than the trail ones,
but it's in the men's race. I think you find like and you know, to talk out of out of turn here, but I think you'll find Western states is the big one for the US. OK, I got you UTMB. It's the big one. Yeah, it's definitely US guys who do and girls who do really well in UT MB as well. But it'll be like European. Yeah, driven. Cool, cool, cool. Now, did you watch the Breaking 40? Yes, this is. Did you watch it? Live or replay? I watched a replay. Yeah. OK, Yeah.
What? What did you make of it? I made of it. It's a good look. I get where they're going. I get what they're trying to do and we've talked about it on here before. They're trying to take running mainstream. Quick catch up Faith Kipiagon, women's GOAT middle distance runner, copying the mould set by Elliot Kipiogay when Nike tried to break 2 hours with him over the marathon, tailored everything to get him to achieve it.
They did the same for Faith Kipiagon in the hope of making her the first female to ever run a sub 4 minute mile. So on pace for three laps arguably and and you know, dropped 556 seconds on the last lap, just didn't have it. Look, I was more focused on the run itself in the end. It's such a small part because when you're running only, what, four O 6. What'd she do in the end? She did a four O 6 first. It was the fastest ever mile time by a female athlete ever heard.
She has the world record of four O 7. But so still a success. Still a success by that measure, yes. But what I was interested in is the actual show so I've watched the pre show on prime. Right. What do you think? And then I've watched obviously, So when I say the pre show, I watched the episode 1, which we talked about the other day, which explained all of the technology and everything and
the training. And then I watched the pre show in the lead up to her run and there was probably a good 40 minutes of it they brought in obviously USI think the whole the main host was a a American female sports reporter. OK, so from the media, I think so she they were doing a great job. They had everyone represented, right? Carl Lewis? Great. Amazing. Great. I'd like to see him on.
That was like special. Yeah, like especially, you know, around as a sprinter, but still has a lot to say about athletics. It just didn't work for. Me what? What about it didn't work? It's just clunky. It's just how do you make I I would have rather seen it packaged up the first like the actual first episode of her training and the technology and
everything else. I would have rather seen it in a one one hour package as one, one hour special instead of trying to break it out in three where you have to watch a pre show. Then this show was like I just kept trying to build it up for 40 minutes and then you know the event. I think if you're going to go and watch something live and you want to be there, you need to get to the get get to the main event quicker than that. It was just a long all.
That that and I didn't see it. I only watched the race. I've only watched the replay of the the entry into the thing. So from that I don't quite have that perspective on it as a product because I didn't have to sit through all that. I watched it on replay after the fact and. You just Fast forward it so that. No, but the replay only gave me basically when Faith came out onto the track and when the Pacers came out of the track, it didn't give me all the pre stuff.
Yeah, right. So I actually just got to see the attempt. Really. That's all I saw. And so I don't have that view of it. I I really thought it was great. I thought, you know, I love seeing Stewie Mcswain out there representing Australia as one of the paces. And to me it was just, yeah, it looked like a really kind of exciting, well commentated run. Talking about the lights that would keep your own pace. What? Really enjoyed it run started 100% on.
I just think it was just too long to get there of them trying to fill time in to keep you watching for a whole hour. Whereas I think instead of taking 3-1 hour episodes, if they would have just condensed it into like, you know, not being greedy and just condensed it into one great package. You know, half an hour of the lead up into the race, bang, gone, done and. If you look at it from that
perspective, it's not a money. This was this was not set up to be a money making exercise for Nike. Nike doesn't need to create things like this to make more money. Oh well. I think the purpose of doing it is to make more money. Do you think, Yeah, what money is there to be made aside from selling the TV rights, selling shoes? I don't reckon that's going to sell more shoes. It's to buy in. I don't it's awareness. I don't think that event would have sold more shoes.
It's awareness. If you went in and you're, you've got Nike on your on your brain, you know, if you're going in, you're going into PAC fair, I'm going in, I'm going to buy some shoes today. I'm running my next marathon or I'm, you know, going out to buy shoes to train in. You walk past the Adidas store, you've walked past the ASIC store and you see the Nike store.
Top of your mind is Nike just did this big thing that have been watching and following along and everything else that is going to. It's there to sway your judgement to buy. OK, Yeah, I don't you're right. I don't disagree with you that what I think I mean is that as a product, yeah. That the the event itself as a product should have been, could have been packaged better. I think the brand, the box could have been better.
The thing that was it was wrapped within could have been didn't need all the excess packaging. It could have just been one nice layer of wrapping rather than 17 or an hour's worth of wrapping. Yeah, in this case, I, I I think it was a bit like a wedding. The pre, the build up to it is where they got all the benefit, like a lot of the benefits and everyone talking about it, sharing all the different things, you know, working out. Can she do it?
Can she not? And then it's kind of like when it was done, it was like, OK. I have to go back and watch it because I again, I don't wanna comment too much without having seen any of it and I don't wanna sit here and just hit you and. Laundry list and I'm being pessimistic about it. I think it's I think Nike are the big winners out of here.
Like there's been a lot of media build up for a long time and so across all socials, you know, having a female athlete go out and do that with, you know, all the sport, everyone focuses, it was great to what I did get excited about was watching her come out and having that whole team of like athletes around her. Well let me ask you this then, if you're added us, let's just pick out of this and it could be anyone, it could be humour, it could be Soccerny, it could be
whoever. What else is there in the running space that would be worth an investment to try and create something like that? Is there a time? Is there a distance? Is there a number? Is there something? No. And I think that's why they went there. That was the obvious next step. They've done the marathon and then the four minute mile is the other. I mean the next, the, the next step to me would be the 100 metres. I was going to say, that's what jumps out to me immediately. Or a or long jump.
If you're yes, if you're talking about because what? Who's the I wanted to bring this up with you the other week. Who's the young Swedish pole vaulter? Who should know his name? Hey. Aman Duplantis, the Swedish pole vaulter who's basically he's Swedish American, but he competes for Sweden. Are you aware of Remind Me? We'll go back to that 100 metre thing. Are you aware of what he's been doing with the world record bonuses?
Have you seen this story? No, but I'm I'm making the assumption without seeing the story, he's just been knocking A centimetre or two off each time. That's exactly. What he's doing, he's. Probably got 20 centimetres up. He's exactly what he's doing. He has wouldn't he gets a, he gets a $100,000 bonus from World Athletics each time he breaks the world record here. He has broken the world record 12 times. Every time he does it, it's by a centimetre. And then he says, I've won world
record 100,000. See you next time plus plus because. Every other sponsor would be also tipping in on that world record. Right. And he's only, and this is the thing, the conditions are that it's only one bonus per meet that which is why he doesn't bother going again once he breaks it, he can't. Oh, he like it's not one world record 2. Exactly, exactly. So sorry. Going back, we talked about Duplantis, we were talking about what other space could a running brand 100. It's.
Speed, right? And if you think about what captures the imagination, you just talked about Nike doing this because it keeps them front of mind when people are walking through Pacfare, wherever it is, buying shoes, speed is the other one, right? So. Speed or I, I, I do believe when we're talking like jump. Yes, I agree. Like jump and like how, what's the technology to make someone be able to like, because there's, there's, to me, that's like a bit of an enigma and like
how far can someone jump? Like it's basketball, you watch it and it's like around that, but think about how long. So to me it's the long jump. Because isn't the one men's world Men's long jump world record one of the longest standing records in. It might be one one of the longest ideas. I was going to bring those. OK, Mike Powell of the United States. Wow. That's all because. He was 1991. Yeah, it. Was Lewis time? So it's been on, it's been there for 30-4 years. He jumped 8.95 metres.
So does the the equipment have to catch up with the equipment of that day? Oh, hi, careful. Allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly, but no. Well, I did see you asked me what was the longest. I did see a post the other day of the longest standing world record in athletics and it's a fee. It's the female 100 metre event and they had a picture. It's a check checklist. Savarkian, I think, lady. Jamila Craccholi, Volvo, 800 metres, Yes. And when you? 41 years.
Yes. And when they showed the video of the event, yeah, maybe we'll do this another week and and discuss it because it is it's quite eye opening. It was definitely in the in the Eastern Bloc heyday. Well, interesting to note, the next closest time is held by Pamela Chamila. I don't know where she's from, but Casa Semenya has the third fastest. But they but they deleted her record. So this is the thing, they deleted her record but didn't
delete well. They're the well because they didn't have proven positive drug tests from many athletes in that or from all the athletes in that idea to to put a bow on the breaking fall thing. I love it. I, I hope more brands explore this pathway. I hope more of them try and figure out novel ways to celebrate athletes or efforts or feats in a product that we can all enjoy and consume in a fun way. Yeah, perfect way perfect. Perfect way. All right, Dead Cow Gully, Backyard Ultra.
That's a a mouthful. Yeah, it's not a great package. Speaking of package things. I had to go and look at where because obviously this is a very niche event, like I mean probably one of the most niche events, but because of the nature of what a back out ultra is and just running around, what is it, 6.7 kilometres? 6.7 goes. Every hour and just keep doing that for as long as you can. Yeah. So actually, Red Bull raced the Sun alumni Phil Gore. Is he raced for us?
Is he really? He ran last year. There you go. And he won and broke the world record by doing 119 loops. So for context, 800 kilometres in five days. Yeah. So 119 loops and people. And if your brain's like mine, you you've suddenly, you've put that on a in a circle, you've gone what? A loop is a circle. Therefore, OK, I'm doing 119 loops. Put that into days. Five days. Now you might think you might be able to sneak a sleep in, but you've got to run the 6.7 K every hour.
Let's say even hypothetically that Phil suddenly has a A4 four minute K loop in him, right? And he let's just say go 28 KS the most sleep he could possibly get because then you've got to be up and ready to go the most sleep realistically he could get on anyone lap might be 20 minutes and I don't even think you would have got that. So you are going five days where the most rest you're probably having at any one time is 10 to 15 minutes. Yeah, man, it's it's for one.
It's before any of the running. Yeah, it's great. I mean, this is the one where I suppose like there's all the long distance run stuff going around, but this is the one that puts it into kind of a package. It's all about packages, puts it in a package and said this is what you got to do. And so there's an element of like competition there, of seeing how long and these guys are just going on and on and on
and crazy. So Sam Harvey from New Zealand, I watched a a YouTube doggo on him the other day. So he set the New Zealand national record as well. But he I was watching him. He just like gave up his job and said I'm just gonna start doing this running stuff for, you know, seeing how far I can go. And these guys are like, these
are the real heroes. I reckon when you talk about the distance stuff, you know, like the ultra ultra, like we talked about Western. So like if you have Western states, that's like to me, I compare that to Iron Man. It's kind of comparable in the sense of 14 hours. It's not a sleep deprivation thing. You know, elite Iron Man now go a bit quicker. They're going like 7 1/2 hours. But the average Iron Man will be out there in around 12 hours or something, 12 to 1314.
So it's in that realm of a day's effort. This stuff is like, you know, ultra, what would you say? You've got to deal with sleep deprivation. You've got to just deal with like the demons of all of that and everything else going on and have the endurance to keep going. And to but I think I really think you cracked it last episode when you talked about the fact that sleep was the the determining factor between what you and I decided races that are enjoyable and ones that are
torturous. Oh, this isn't. Enjoyable. No, no, no, that's and that's what I mean that you cracked it last week when you when you said that and you just went it's sleep. It's sleep is what allows you to recover and enjoy things and and enjoy the pain and and limits that you can test yourself with. So this happens all around the world. Obviously different backyard ultras have started over in the States, but I had to look up where Runny made what running
runny made was. So this happens out near Kingaroy, southern Queensland. Yep. No, no. Well, yes, inland from the Sunshine Coast, so just out on a property there. And they've created the event to break the world record, so I'm having plenty of coverage. I, of course ABC covered it. I bet you SBS also got on the bandwagon here. What do you? Reckon he won, Have you looked into that? No, I haven't, but I'm going to take a. Oh, what do you think this man has run for five days? 800 Ki.
Think I've heard this. Is this the cow? The cow Pat. Oh, maybe, maybe. But I'm looking at the prize money. Oh, the prize money. Because according to this 2024, last year's winner won $10,000. If you offered me 10, No. If you offered me 10 grand to run 800 KS. Better than a lot of other running events? True. It's better than City to surf. What's the prize money at City to Surf? I've looked it up the other I think it's like 2 1/2 grand for the winner. That seems crazy to me 90. 1000
runners, 2 1/2 grand to win. Really. Yep, don't Fact Check me, but I did. We were. We were looking at it the other day for another reason. You you actually you're spot on. 1st place male and female runners each receive $2000. That's nuts. This is one of the most participated in fun runs around the world. Surely they can stump up a bigger purse for the winners of this thing. I wonder if they stumped up a bigger purse if they we might see like well here.
Did you race better, harder when the prize was bigger? Of course, you did put more on the line. Someone says to you half, $1,000,000 to go run first, $10,000, you're going to put a lot more. Now you shouldn't say that because you're not going to put a lot more in it, but it's just a lot more on it. You're going to put more priority on that event. Now I know the course has been changed and Mona's record of 40 O 3 is that breakable on the current course, The new course
as it sits. I don't know enough about. How much the course I. Mean I know in oh here we go ahead how the course changed but 2020. Four last year's event. Isaac is it Hain? Yep, Isaac came one with 4049, so he's 46 seconds back from Moners. Well, then I'd say yeah, it's breakable. Is another 20 grand capable of improving your time by 46 seconds? Like, you know, imagine if there was even those. There was $25,000 on offer. It's an interesting 1, isn't it?
I I actually thought until there was 2 1/2 thousand there was a time, I know when my Shelley was like around winning around. I'm not sure if he won it, but around that trying to win it. It might have been just a you got a flight to their sister event for winning over in a series. Yeah, I'm I was sure and someone out there right into us. I was sure the backyard ultra at dead cow gully. They got it. There's one there's one where you get literally a bag of cow shit.
That's what you get to take away. Let us know which one it is, if it if it is dead cow or it's one another one but. Someone's definitely. Told me that it. Doesn't appear as though Oh no, he did 2009. Michael Shelley Did he win 2009. Took it out in a time of 4102, and since then it's been a bit of back and forth between Harry Summers, Benny Saint Lawrence and Liam Adams. Yeah. They've don't say my memory's shot all the time. No, no, you know that. No, I'm pretty sure I ran,
actually ran that year. He won. And have you got the results here? I had a feeling I might have got 5th to 6th. Really. Yeah. All right. Possibly something around there. Hey, I my like we didn't put it on the podcast because it was just going to be too difficult to do.
But this week we my misfortune and not being able to run at the Gold Coast marathon became someone's good fortune and we put a little bit of a comp on the social yes and the I just to let everyone know who who entered or or saw it, the winner or the person who we've we've given it to great little story behind it. So it's Timmy is he's going to run it and he runs. Ricky Estale was the one who submitted him and said he'd be amazing to to get a run and he
does 1/2 marathon. Anyway, he runs for his late daughter Lunar every year. So she was 3 when she got hit by a car and he does a marathon every year in in her honour. And he decided, well, if I can do a few more, he wanted to do a couple more. So I thought that was a, you know, a nice story to help someone out who didn't have an entry. That's awesome. So good luck on the weekend, Timmy. And we'll, we'll, we'll keep keep Timmy.
We'll keep you'll have. To make sure you give me Timmy's your bib number so. No, so it won't be my bib. Number, that's no, no, no. No, it won't be my bib, but, well, he'll be out there running.
Well, Ricky, if you're listening, please send through Timmy's details to the Instagram page 'cause I would love to at the very least find him on the finish line, give him a shout out, but otherwise just give him a big hug to say well done 'cause it's an awesome story and can't wait to to see him cross that line on Sunday in the race. Just quickly coming back to see you surf. I have found this is a cool page. Found a page that ranks the Sydney to surf all time male rankings.
OK, so if. Somebody just by the course or it's just on time. Time. Time only. So monas I've just checked myself. I haven't made the list. I have not made the. Top Oh, so you're you can actually search? Yeah. OK, so the top 450 are on here and Courtney Atkinson. Oh so here we go. So ranking males on 14K course 1976 to 2018 and then the yeah, so all the way through to 2018. Do I make it? Courtney Atkinson, you sit 159th all time. Gee, that doesn't sound too
good. Does it 43 minutes and 11 seconds. 4311. 4311 you and then obviously Mona's. You're 308 behind Mona's. That's AK behind. Yeah. Robert D Costello in second. Mona Getty's on there. Oh, geez. How many times Steve? Mona Getty on this list is on there. Oh. So that's eight times that's they count multiple athletes. Yeah, no, so like they count Monas 8 times on that list. Oh, OK. Well, so. Monas in front of you like 6 times. Kind of a little bit misleading though.
No, that takes on the times, Yeah, but that. Doesn't make me the 159th slowest. No, you're right. Runner. Because it looks like Liam Adams is in front of you a fair bit. OK, that's I'm gonna call you out on this, John. Andrews is in front of you 8 times. That's misleading then. I'm definitely I that you shocked me then 'cause I think I can't be that I. Can't be that Tony McCartney's in front of you 4 times. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Oh, who's this one? Yeah, no, there's that.
Means I could have been in the top 50 possibly. Maybe. Yeah, I reckon Nah. Oh, you may be. You may be OK. Lead troops in front of you. Are you talking about getting now, getting back to Gold Coast? We've got Gold Coast on this weekend. We're on about Gold Coast. Will Gibson gave you a shout out. So hey, boys. Hey. He wanted to know how you're pulling up and are you doing a three hour time? Because Will is actually anyone running around 3:10. He is gonna be a pacer, good
man, he said. Mate, if you fall off your pace he was gonna give you a kick up the backside so that anyone anyone going out on the three hour group and the three hour pacer. Yeah, we'll, we'll don't. Yeah, don't let him catch. We'll get you. This is shout out Will. Thank you for the message, mate. Sadly, you won't. I won't be there for you to give me a kick up the ass, find me on the finish line.
Give me a pat on the ass, mate. It'd be again, all these people who have followed along with the the podcast in the lead up to the Goldie Marathon. If you're listening to this after the marathon well and you've run it well done. If you're listening to this on the Saturday beforehand, just enjoy this tomorrow. I said to Bronte, obviously. How's she feeling this week? I see. Her in the office, I saw her today in the office. She's it's funny, we had a chat because she posted on her.
She's got a bib. Yep, she's got a bat. She's got everything. She's getting started, but she posted on her Instagram the other day about her last PT session before the race. And I said to her, did it feel like when you did the last PT session that, oh, I've managed to get out of that uninjured because that's, and she's like, yeah, I'm, I, I finished it. When he said we were doing glute stuff, my brain started going, oh, just don't hurt anything.
Like there was this this mindset for her now which. Is an athlete. I'm I'm ready now. I'm there now this is and now so she's really excited, but it was off the back of last week's episode talking about pacing. Yes. And I saw a great comment. I'm not sure if it was on the on Spotify or on the Instagram about Maranoia is how somebody termed it marathon paranoia. OK, it was AI loved it. I thought it was a great apologies to apologies. Who?
Whoever used that phrase, but Maranoia was a great way to describe what a lot of people are feeling and oh, here it is, Chandra Ralston said. Great episode guys. Maranoia is definitely setting in for me. Paranoia. But I haven't heard that one. Bronte's producer on the radio show is a young fellow named Harry who is has sort of been shadowing Bronte along this whole marathon journey. Their their time in runnings quite similar. And Harry chat at Harry listens to the podcast. He loves it.
And I came out of a meeting on Monday this week and Harry came into the meeting. It was a big all sort of staff meeting. And as I was walking out, I just said to everybody, everybody just show some patience with Harry. He's running a marathon this weekend for the first time. So whatever gets said in this meeting, he will forget because all that's happening in his brain right now is on what happens if I start too fast?
How am I going to feel AT25K? How am I going to feel to He's not listening to anything any of you are saying. He he is completely a zero net result here at work this week 'cause all his attention is focused in on this marathon. I also I ran into a Luke from he works for the company to medic this. Week he's been. Listening and love your love your stuff, Luke, particularly the esky he he said about he's running, but he he reckons he'll be around Bron. He's like he might be around
that pace. He's been listening along for that too. He did also tell me, 'cause I said, oh, how'd you get onto the podcast? Like how'd you find it? He said he found it on socials, but he recognised you from you. He was a Sydney boy and he recognised you from your show with MG. Uh huh. The big one. And I like, and then he goes. And then I kind of put two and two together, who you were. And I went, oh, we might tell Liam that one. But yeah. So good luck. Good luck to everyone.
Running. Good luck to everyone running and again, you know, we'll figure out something for social. I had no idea. I'll talk to you about it afterwards. Courtney. Yeah, mate. What about your run? Where you going? What's going on? I've been. Off grid four days this yeah, where we went camping with a whole group of families that we do trips with. We went funny enough, I was back out at Tennerfield of all like 2 weeks after Red Bull race the
sun. We went back through Tennerfield, but then I went another about an hour and a half further out on some dirt roads till we found a spot where there's you know, you get away from the mobile reception. It was freezing mate. The so on the, the first night we were there, I don't know what the temperature was, but you know, like I love the fact of winter camping 'cause if you're gonna go camping and it's cold, it's great. You put, make a big bonfire and you know, you hang around, but
it still was cold. So it'd be a night scratching like ice off the car in the morning. And then it got better after that. But we were, you know, even the water. So the kids and, and my son and that we took weddies out because there's a big rock. The the, the reason we went out there half as this, this big kind of rock, jump into it like you would camp on a gorge out there.
And the water was at that temperature where the first day I jumped in without a wedding and I thought, you know, ice bath, just jump in freshen up. So I was having a shower and I lasted all of about I went actually down to see check for any logs and and stuff. So like if the kids are jumping off the rocks, you know, make sure it's all clear. And I probably got down about half a body length in my head. I'm out of here. That's enough, That's enough. But yeah. Did you get some running in?
Didn't run. I took the shoes and I just was relaxing out there. Had all good intentions to run. Funny thing was we got told you need like forward driving to get in there. Yeah. And the guy who owned the property said, oh, you know, just allow for my driveway another hour was 4.2 K. And we're kind of like, he's probably just taking the piss a little bit. But he wasn't taking the piss. It was, it was, it was if he needed to test the cars out.
It was a decent slog in there. But yeah, he just relaxed. But what I did do this morning. So I am back running and I'm back when I'm I've been jogging to now. Jogging. Do you course? So this morning I went down to the Spit with the Gold Coast Runco. So most of the crew there are running 5 KS, 10 KS. There's a few running the marathon. They were doing their kind of lead up, so we did a 20 minute monofart lick.
So if anyone's listening and thinking what do the kind of more elite runners do on a Tuesday before the before the marathon or before you're running the 10K this weekend? We literally warmed up 20 minutes, jogged, ran a 2020 minute monofart lick. So 290 seconds on, 290 seconds off, 460 seconds on, 460 seconds off 4 thirties, 30s and then 4 fifteens and fifteens to make that.
And the Jacko, the coach, he said, mate, like let's, you know, give it some like we want to make sure we're woken up, but also just be conscious. You're racing this weekend. I know the front, right? The front boys like Giordan, a few of the boys at the front got down to like 240 pace. So then. Well, there's Paul, Benita said in Wednesday's EP. She said that you some of the runs you want in the marathon week should be faster than marathon pay should. Well, that's a lot faster than
marathon. Yeah, should. But, you know, really wake up. I ran through like just conservatively in 345 averages, so you know, so. Your conservative is back up. There, I'm running, you're running, I'm running and knocking off about 50 KA week. But now, now things will ramp up a little bit. I am. I'm still running, I'm still plotting a little bit. I've been. It's amazing how life gets in the way.
I've been very busy, but I last week I, I tried a couple of, it was interesting because I tried to go and essentially run a bit under 5K pace just to, because I, it has been, I don't reckon I've really tried to run under 5K pace since I hit my car. So that's three months ago, that's three months ago since I've really now bear in mind and I know that people going, oh, that's still good running for me.
When my mind was at with my running four months ago was that I could do a sub three hour marathon. That's where my running was at. I was running well, you know, sub 4 minute K's weren't intimidating to me right now. The idea of running a sub 4 minute K is terrifying to me. Like that's where I'm at now. So I did, I went out for a run the other day. I did 10 minutes warm up and then I did 4 minutes, not with any pace in mind, but just let's move a bit more. And I averaged 430 for the four
KS And then I did a cool down. I pulled up so sore. I pulled up. So just generally it wasn't there was no tears or strains or anything. I was just sore running just even that 30 seconds quicker was really sore. So I took a couple of days off after that, but then I did Sunday just gone. I've got a nice long for me, long 14K run in nice. Just touch under 5 minutes. So and everything's everything's everything's fine, everything's good. So touch wood now I'm now I'm starting to.
Think of what's next. Yeah, just starting. Yeah, a little bit of an itch, a little bit of an itch. Have a look what's around. Figure out what's going on next. But the body's feeling good. The body's feeling good. I'm back enjoying running and I am again. I couldn't be more excited about this weekend to get around that vibe of the marathon because it's just. Just goodbye. Good news is we can start talking about ourselves a little bit again.
Man, we're running of. Course, we've been talking a lot about Buddy. Everyone else is running. Let's be selfish. Yeah. Now you've got shoe stuff. I've got some gear. Let's go. A few posts I've I've seen this week and this one and I actually can't see who it was. Runners Bon Voyent top shoes of 2024 in the World Marathon Majors. So they've literally gone through all of the majors, male and female, and put the shoes in ranking. Who do you reckon?
Like can you see it? No no #1 shoe last year. Marathon brand just gives marathon majors Nike. No. Adidas. The Adidas? The Adidas, Yeah. The Adidas Pro Evo. What's interesting is the Adios Pro 4 also came in #4 OK, Nike Alpha Fly 3 #2. How many other shoe brands are in the top? What are we doing so? We've got Adidas, Nike, Nike, Adidas, ASICS on clown on cloud boom. Now think on One had one win so that it's like the Olympic medal take away. Yeah, yeah.
You're not taking about how many awards. So when? Togo gets a a A medal in the kayaking and suddenly they jump up the the. Medal they're they're beating Japan because Japan got 20 silvers and haven't won a you know gold sorry Japan I wasn't raised. I didn't. That was the first thing that come to mind. So on cloud another, this is an Adidas again. Three now enter. Have you heard of Anta Anta Anta Ant? AANTA, who won wearing the shoe? Anta, What The sports equipment company Anta Sports.
Do you know what the logo of Anta looks a little bit like? They come from Deodora. Maybe it's a rebranded Deodora. There's Deodora out there still is the Chinese sports equipment multinational corporation. So it's Chinese shoe. Chinese shoe. What were those shoes you go gave me? Those horrible green things they were. Weren't they Kip run? Were they Kip Run? No, Kip Run Was the Kip Run's Decathlon's branded shoe, isn't it? Do you know what's interesting? I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure. So while you're looking there, so on cloud another cloud Under Armour have got a a silver 1 silver one 2/3 for a Puma for their deviate Nitro. It gives a big rap that Nitro one. I just reckon it gets a big rap because of the look. Not that I've ever tried one. And then even a night Vapour Fly came in three. You know, we took them down, but Adidas Courtney Atkinson 5 Golds versus Nikes 2. You are part of the Anta family. What?
Salomon owned by Amos Sports. Yes, Amos Sports, which is owned by Anta. Wow. OK, we're so you are. We are breaking ground. Here you're part of the anti sports family. You're telling me Anta own AMA? AMA, I am. That's exactly what I'm telling you. Does someone the first thing comes up? Does Nike own Anta? Amos Sports is owned by Anta Sports. Amos Sports is owned by a consortium led by Anti Sports with Chip Wilson fan of.
A few. Oh, OK. And the sports owned 44.5% of Amos Sports, so that would be the majority stakeholder. Folio of Yep, you're right. There you go. So. You need to get yourself some anti shoes. Maybe we've got educate Pete. Pete from Solomon. Hey, Pete's coming. He's, you know, you're not running, but he's still racing you. No. No, no, no, no. I'm gonna. Catch up with Pete. Is he still going after the sub three? Yep. How's he feeling?
He he said he's everything's going good, so I'm going to catch up with him before the race, but there we go. So that's like the parent company or the parent company just we've got off track. We have got off track too quickly and I know you're just talking you. We need to go back because you've got another shoe thing you want to talk about very quick. Keep going, keep rolling. Pete coming in. This is the other thing about the marathon, which I encourage
everyone. If you haven't done one, if you're listening to this and you're not a part of 1 yet, sign one up because the anticipation that builds ahead of this stuff is so good. And the other thing, if you're on the Gold Coast, the shakeout runs are brilliant, but they're everywhere Friday morning. If you are not a part of the running community, you are going to think what is going on because they are. Everywhere. What's the best shakeout advertisement you've seen?
Which one do you? Which one? Here's a Here's a question for you. Which one would you want to attend? Well, I am attending 10. I'm attending AG One's shakeout run. That's the answer. Because I'm also going to be doing a bit of Q&A with Andy Buchanan. Oh wow. After the shakeout run. So Andy Buchanan. For those that aren't aware, Charlie's. Best you're doing that. Marathon runner, right?
Now, is it kosher to be able to then go but like, put your iPhone on and just record yourself while you're doing it? Are you asking me will I steal some some chat from content from Andy Buchanan? Why you're the one? For this podcast or just in general for the social, that's exactly what I'm going to do. That's exactly. See what I'm gonna do. Thank you to AG One for some free, free interview with Andy, if you can. Yeah, I'll record some of the chat with Andy. Yeah. Share it.
Share it with you. In the beginning. It's it's you. It's it's you. You can take it. Exactly. And all it is doing is spreading the AG1 message further and wider. Yeah, good. There's no doubt, Andy, you'll get that. OK, so you're. Going to AG one, but no. And is there any others that you've looked at and got? Oh wow, that one looks good because. Look, I've seen the What's the mob who run there at the front of Karaman? Year old salt. Salt. Yeah, the salt runners are
having a shakeout run. Salt Mill. The salt Mill mob having a shakeout run. I think I saw. It's clean, going on pace athletic. I see. Of course they're doing the I think about post, post and whatever you wanna call a post thing post pastor or something. Then with the Oxley down in Nobbies, that's cool, cool crowd
down there. The. Again, the other thing I will say, look, we've given them the halfway house, EMQ next year, halfway house at the turn around point as we stand and also also a central hub for everyone to go to afterwards. Yeah, that's that next evolution of the event in my opinion. OK. Let's keep going on back to the shoes. So we talked that was the road shoes we kind of just covered of
of interest. So going to back to Western States, full circle, what we began with, there's a lot of prototype or yeah, they're cool prototypes in this in this file that people were running in. So I'm gonna give you another stab at this women's top 10 shoes at Western States. So we're talking trail shoes now. Brand #1. Salomon. No, they were in #3 ASICS, No ASICS at all in the either men or women. I'll guess Nike then. Nike. What? What? We said Nike won the men.
Not so, it's Adidas. I didn't even know they really did trail. Shoes. Yep, I've tried that. I've talked about an of just trying on an Adidas shoe here. What's the travel shoe called? Brett Carter from Sydney sent me his pair. He goes, you gotta try these, you gotta try these. Yeah, the Terex. Oh yeah, I do remember those. That's OK, just on this, right, Because when I Google Adidas Terex, very quickly it comes up with that big bright orange writing Terex. Yeah, right.
It doesn't look like an Adidas shoe. Because the three stripes are covered, OK, but it's a it's a kind of outdoor mountain where so like this downhill skiers also wear Terex like their clothing or whatever they're wearing around. So it's kind of more their outdoor brand. You look at that, would you have said like that looks like it's own brand? Yeah, I wouldn't have said if you so if you showed me that and I didn't know Terex that picture you.
Would say that's not an Adidas. There's no way you'd say that's an Adidas. Yeah, haven't you? You've got to know that branding, but I mean in trail they're they're quite heavy on that branding, right. So you know it Plus I did learn the other day it's also mounted so snow sports as well. Interesting. So if I just go down the list quickly, so you've got Adidas, then Hoka, Solomon, Kraft, another? Brand the cheese. It's gonna go somewhere else with the cheese. Salomon Calius.
There's another one. CA. CAILAS, It's gotta be another Chinese shoe. CAILASAS. Yep, and the the the the model was the Fuga FUGAF. UG. A worn by Ha Ha. Oh, ha, Kala. Yeah. Good one, Kate. Do you know Kailas? Kailas, Kailas, Yep. So while you're looking that up, then where it was Adidas again, Adidas, Nike, Adidas man, like it's like they're really strong.
So that's in the women's side. If you go down the men's side, top ten, we've got Nike, we've got Brooks, Brooks make a thing normal, which is Kelly and Jornay's own shoe on Cloud Ultra, another Adidas. That's Dan. Dan runs for Terex Norface Norda Ultra Scarpa, which is Scarpa's probably better known for the climbing shoes and another Adidas. So like when you come to trail running, this is where the real innovation goes.
And now a lot of them say the the Nike Ultrafly 2 that Caleb Olson won the race in is a prototype. OK, so it's not out yet. The what one else can I see the craft trial? It was a prototype, so the 4th in the women. There's a lot more prototypes. Lots. Of trialling shoes prototypes in this but I mean just the range of different shoes that are you know across the board in trail, you know that's where real innovation I suppose is happening.
It also gives a little bit more play because, you know, on the road we all know now the rubber and the plate obviously work together and you've got to have that. We're on trail. There's still a little bit of, you know, I know that of. Personal. Preference run in it, but like, you know, the killing and Jonat shoe, the normal like it. It's got rubber, but it looks a bit more like a traditional trail shoe.
You know, a bit lower, you know, lower stacked, whereas the Adidas ones are still high stacked with some type of like it's not a hard plate, but it's got their, I don't know, their proprietary kind of like 3 pronged blade in it. OK, here's OK, the the Kailas, I'm going to say that's how the brands pronounce Kailas. Yep, really interesting.
Just a quick Google. So Kailas, it was founded in 2003. It's relatively new by a passionate mountain biker, skier and outdoorsman Baguio Zong in China. He founded it to address the needs of China's growing population of campers and trekkers. Yeah, so this article I'm reading here. As it happened, his friendship with numerous dirtbag Mountaineers led to the brand developing and producing a growing selection of technical mountaineering products for these same friends.
Kailash, named after Mount Kailash, a famous Tibetan pilgrimage mountain, soon found itself as a leading figure in China's nascent mountaineering community. So basically this is a bloke, he's taken passion, his passion for something, combined it with a boom that was happening at the time, yeah. And now it's a what seems like a fairly successful little project for him.
Yeah. Well, that Fuga that they're running in, so that's got that bowler system at the top of the range 1. So the Boa system is anyone who rides, you know, push bikes on their shoes will know like the ratchet system that you actually wind up. So like as far as you know, like Salomon, use a speed lace where you lock that speed lace down that you've run in. The Boa ratchet system's heavier.
So that's the drawback of it. But the argument is that maybe like as you ratchet that down, it can't then release at all. Both serve the same purpose. 1 is just done through a ratchet, but there's a bit of a weight, you know, I'd say there's a bit of a wait. What's the L? What's pounds technology? Geez, I don't know what you're
telling. Me well, no, because the reason I'm I'm as I dig deeper into coal ash after eight years of R&D coal ash this is In 2019, they launched the world's first trail running shoe with pounds technology and patented 4 point Gator holder system. I'm gonna just guess that is just all marketing jargon for something that already exists in another way. And I'm not joking. I mean it's like Boa is it was in snow boots and bikes load bearing support or lightweight stability.
Yeah. OK, so it is marketing. It's just marketing. You know what I am a bit envious of? As I as I was reading through that list I saw the S Lab Pulsar 4, the Solomon shoe. Their race shoe has been upgraded to the four and I don't have it. This is turning into shoe porn, by the way. This is this is turning into proper shoe porn. We've descended down a rabbit hole here. I apologise 'cause it's rare that we find ourselves down in one of these things, but we have
properly disappeared. Courtney has taken us into a deep, dark corner of shoe porn. Here to end the podcast, so we apologise. Can I just drag us out of your dark dirty closet for a moment, Courtney? Sure. Gold Coast marathon this weekend, Sydney Major the next one on the horizon for a lot of people. We know there's gonna the hype around Elliot is gonna start building.
Kichogo coming to town? Jump on YouTube, there's an first episode about Elliot's journey to Sydney 'cause he's never been to Australia. Before I did see it was this one that had Kangaroos. Well, they show me using Kangaroos. I think so. But yeah, but there's a go and have a watch of it. It's just gonna start to build the excitement.
The other great news as well is, and it shouldn't be, look, it's hard when the shadow of Elliot Kipchoga comes along around a marathon to get excited about anything else. Everything does kind of get put in the shade. But Sufan Hassan, who is the Netherlands gold medallist from last Olympic, Paris Olympics, she signed on, She's coming. So this is massive that another world class superstar of the sport and Kenya's Bridget Cosgay is also running.
So suddenly this marathon, Yep, it's got major classification. But that I guess doesn't entitle you to, doesn't guarantee a great race. Suddenly now on paper, Yep, it's got the world, the major classification. Now you've got a field that is worth like, you know, I'm my excitement is really building about Sydney. Do you know what does guarantee you a great race? What's that money? Yeah, you're such a silly get. Get back in your dirty. Shoe that is awesome.
They're all comedy shoe closet. It takes a bit to get you. You know, I think this is not just running like it is hard to, you know, get international superstars down to Australia just when they're in season. It is a long bloody way to travel. So it does take something to get them there and it's great to see they're all in town. Do you know Wayne Larden, the race director acquaintance? No, I'm just. I just saw his name mention I I don't know Wayne. I've never met Wayne.
I'm curious to know whether. Wayne was a very, very handy runner himself. Was he and and around triathlon when I was in my earlier days? Here's something just question out of left field to finish the pod, do you need to be a good runner or have been a good runner to be a good race director? No. OK. Does it help? Because I'm thinking of the analogy of footy coaching to footy players, right? I don't think so. I think you just got to be an amazingly efficient organiser.
OK, Yeah, no, I don't think you have to have run a race. I think anything you're doing, it's it it's very helpful to be passionate about it. There you go. That's probably more important. There you go. All right, well, we're. Passionate about Have a great call at Gold Coast on this weekend and good luck to
everyone. It's been a long road coming and it's on. And make sure if you're not already, if you're one of the listeners of the podcast and you're not already following the Instagram account, jump on because I'm going to be taking over the Instagram account on Saturday and Sunday morning at the Gold Coast Marathon finishing line. Amazing. All right.