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And and presented in a different way than I've even heard it presented before. And so been through a few coaches. Yeah, you are few coaches. But back to our regular Saturday. Let's get into it. Let's get into some now I want to I want to share this story with you. We're going to the AFL world to start this episode.
This is the first of its kind and Shorter turn heads now Crows forward Darcy Fogarty this afternoon having a can of Cooper's Draught tattooed to his bicep that he'll wear during the Crows clash with Geelong on Thursday night.
It's part of a promotion for the SA based brewery and while the AFL and major partner Carlton Draught hits town, it's understood the move won't break any AFL rules because they're not a protected sponsor unlike others including Toyota and Telstra. Fogarty Shorter receive a windfall for the move and Cooper's. While they're all a partner of the Crows, it's a bit of a throwback to when Geelong's Gary Hocking legally changed his name to Cat food brand Whiskers to raise money for Geelong while
the club was in heavy debt. The question from here, just how far can players go and has he's opened a can of beer for the league's marketing division all. Right very nice word Mitch Cleary from Channel 7 there with the news now people would have seen this by now. This is on this would have was on Thursday night against the Cats Gather round all games being played in Adelaide this weekend. It's an awesome concept as a, as an AFL round theme for everything to be in Adelaide this weekend.
But Darcy Fogarty getting the temporary tattoo. Did you see the tattoo? Yeah. Yeah, you could see it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you can't miss it. Because it looked like he's getting an. Andre's well, Darcy Fogarty, if you're not familiar, is he going has one of the great set of pythons in the AFL. This man has got biceps for
days. He's he's got a great set of cannons on him and the can fills him out like this is a that is if you were to try and in the AFL pick out, I guess the most valuable piece of real estate, Darcy Fogarty's biceps would be right up there. It's right. So do I get it right that he is? So is Cooper's, Yes, and they're actually a competitor of the AF LS beer sponsor. That's right. So Carlton Draught is the major sponsor, beer sponsor of the AFL.
But that was the interesting point that Mitch Cleary brought up there. They're not. They're not a protected sponsor. I didn't say they're exclusive to the AFL, they're not protected. Well, I was hoping you could try on some light on this as the marketing guru. I no, I can't because protected. OK, So what I'm more interested in is how Toyota and them are
protected. Toyota and Telstra are protected from my. Understanding and and a little bit of dealings, the clubs have the right to do their own deals against competitors of AFL sponsors. Right. And that would be the case in, in, in this source. So it would be the simple thing like, you know, like take it out out of AFL. It'd be like in rugby league tours versus Forex, NSW versus Queensland. Like there's how the sponsors
that can be had. Why I'm what I'm interested in is I'd like to know how Toyota and those actually get exclusive nature that someone can't come in and compete. However, then some of the clubs are also sponsored by car companies like Kia for example. Sponsor the Brisbane Broncos. They just mustn't be able to tatoo it on themselves it.
Presents an interesting I mean Mitch Cleary and that bit of audio reference Gary Hawking Buddha Hawking those that follow the AFL in 99 changed his name to whiskers. I remember this. This was and as he said, did you? Ever change it back? Yes, it was her one round thing and the club. He did it to raise money for the club because the club was struggling. Now the Adelaide Crows aren't struggling financially. Darcy Fogarty would be doing
this to fatten his own wallet. It's an interesting line in the sand or not non line in the sand for the AFL though. Because you've got beer has its place, alcohol has its place in our society. But this would probably lean towards glorification of beer in our society, correct? And I'm not saying you can't do it.
But for the AFL, who has taken a very over the last 12 months under the stewardship of Andrew Dillon, the new CEO has taken something of a high moral ground stance on a lot of issues. They have seen themselves, they understand or they their attitude is we're not just about the sport, we're about society in a broader sense and they have taken.
There was an incident in last year towards the end of last year where Ken Hinckley, the Port coach, very much got up in the face of Jack Guineven from the Hawks and Andrew Dill in the AFL came out and said that's not what we want our game to look like, we don't want to see. And, and I loved it. I love the passion from Ken Hinckley and look if he had his time again probably doesn't do it.
But the heat of battle, the heat of contest, it's emotional and they just won this incredibly hard fought game and he was fired up and he was emotional and Givin had said things in the lead up during the week that had prompted that emotional response. I have less issue with that than I do with the player getting a can of beer tattooed on their arm and I'm really interested to know what the AFL, you know, how they see it. Well it's interesting because,
well, it's not. It's not the AFL making money or not on this. I was going to say everyone, all these organisations are always people 1st until dollars and cents start talking. Would you know what's interesting? That can change things. The AFL basically own the Crows, right? The AFL basically own the Crows, OK? I don't know enough about the the insurance and outs of AFL clubs on the commercial side, but where this is going for me around the tattoo thing. So like, let's get back to the
actual tattoo itself. What? Where? Where's the line drawn? Because tattoos can be removed, from my understanding, like pretty decently these days. If you get paid a lot of money to tattoo something on you with the four side of then in the future going well, I can remove it anyway. I mean, this is a way around advertising getting around like certain things of like we can't have that brand on New Jersey. Well, I'm going to put it on my body.
Famously, the comparison that's being made is Jr Smith. Yep, Supreme, the NBA basketballer, and he had a a leg sleeve tattoo from Supreme the brand, but the NBA made him cover it up, right? The NBA, they stepped in and said no, no, no. I would guess. I would guess if this became a thing it would be shut down pretty quick. Yeah, I also don't know if
there's enough money. The NBA is a very different world and Supreme probably had a far more zeros after the initial number for JL Smith. Then Cooper's are throwing Dusty fogged his way to get this a. Permanent take it kind of also is a demo right? Like NBA Supreme and then AFL. Beer. Beer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty Aussie.
It's pretty Aussie. The idea of branding and covering and all that sort of stuff and competing brands because Bailey Smith is the most recent example as well when the AFL said he wasn't allowed to have the Nike swoosh on his headband that he was wearing and he's required. And so it's it is interesting where they pick and choose the cans and the cards. The Michael Jordan famous story about when the Dream Team won sold at the 92 Olympics. When was the Dream team 92 or 96 Atlanta?
No, it was Atlanta in 96. And the Dream Team at the time was sponsored by Reebok, not Jordan being an IKEA athlete, they were wearing the full not Reebok track suits. And there's a great scene in the last Dance where he says, I'm they, they won't see this coming or essentially. And he walked out and had the American flag draped over the Reebok logos. Yep. And and I was, and to me, that's like, that's genius.
It's an yeah, I mean, that's genius, these things such an interesting 1. So, you know, there's all these rules around you can be sponsored by, depending on the sport, you can be sponsored by the team. You're obviously got a team sponsor, but then if your individual sponsor is part of your equipment, you can wear them. So in the race you can wear that
piece of equipment. So say you were, you can wear obviously shoes, your Take Australia could be sponsored by ASICS, but you can still go and wear your New Balance in the race. You can still wear really. Yeah, yeah, of course. So if it if it matters to your performance, you can still use your equipment choice, your personal equipment choice, which can be your personal equipment sponsor. Same with bikes, same with
everything else. They just limit the amount of space those logos can be. But you can still compete in a different brand to your team sponsor. So what? Who are you? Who's sponsoring you at your Olympics? So for example, we are always both, both Olympics, Adidas, Adidas. So when we're out opening ceremony, all that gear is Adidas or sports craft I think was the other one for our formal gear, which is a bit weird. That famous sports brand? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one.
But then in the race I'd wear, I think I wore New Balance. New Balance. Right. Yep. What is? What about Sonny's? Oakley. I would have been with Oakley at the time, so I would have worn Oakley. But so sunglasses are OK. Sunglasses are OK, but you know, if someone's got a pair of Oakleys and you're out running at the moment with them on, have a look how many logos are on there? You'll see there's two OS and probably maybe even something on
the lens. So you, I think my first Olympics, you could only have one O, one side was only branded with the O, so. What'd you do with the other one? No, but we just had custom made sunglasses. But it had one O. So when you went to the Games as part of being an Oakley athlete, they have a massive big house there and you go in and you make your Olympics. So you make them in green and gold or whatever the colour is and walk away with your Olympic
glasses. It was actually always unique because always found the one thing Oakley had at the Olympics is this disadvantage over other brands because sunglasses is the kind of the one headspace thing that you can wear that's branded, that's not necessary necessary an Olympic sponsor because it's part of your equipment. So even people who have never been sponsored by Oakley or never really want sunglasses, like take the race walkers as a
good example. All the some of the rowers, some of the kayak as I used to like it was like Christmas for them because they they could go and get a free pair of Oakleys wearing the wear them at the Olympic Games and get their free sunnies. And custom made and because Oakley were like we'll take the free exposure 100%. It's cost how many millions, 10s of millions to be an official sponsor of the Olympic Games. We're getting this for free.
Because everyone's wearing them as a piece of chosen equipment, it gets underneath that rule. I love this. We we went where you left there. Can we just know? Can you just take me? But I know we've wandered down an alleyway here, but can you just take me more inside that process about the the Oakley house at the Olympic Games and. So most brands have a house at the Olympics.
So Red Bull have their house where their athletes can go in at Paris Olympics. I know, for example, the Red Bull house had a podcast studio, right? So you could go, you know, media rooms, just chill out zones, recover it like full recovery area just for Red Bull athletes. So I think there's about, well, if you put Red Bull athletes on the medal table, they would have been the third best country at the Olympics. Really. Yep. That's amazing. Yeah. And so.
So that was one house and you have the Oakley house and I'm assuming you have, yeah, I'm not across all the brands, but they would have been all the foot brands would have their houses. And when I say house, they literally go into that city. And this is happening now already for Brisbane. They're going in and going. We need a three level space in the middle of the city and we're going to own that for the Olympics and we're going to deck that out and that's our spot.
That's happening already. That is happening. It has happened already. Some brands are getting onto it now, some brands. It's already happened because it because you've got to think that far out to be able to lock, lock down these spaces. What I'm talking about like 7 years out. Yeah. So you might be like, I'm just trying to think of a place in Brisbane that would work real well. Like even think your your your workplace up in the.
Barracks up top of Suncorp. Yeah, Say the barracks up the top of Suncorp, because that's going to be a hot area, right, Victoria Park, all of that. Think a brand goes, we're going to in that time for those, you know, three months leading up to the Olympics and of the Olympics, we're going to take two floors of that, please, and that's our house.
Wow. And we're going to like a company or a, you know, solicitor firm would come in, we're going to deck it out and it's going to be Oakley Spot, Red Bull Spot, Nike Spot, whatever it is down on the river. I can imagine some of those restaurants would be pretty pretty good. But So what? My mind's a little bit blown here just from. Another thing like most people wouldn't realise this happens but the athletes.
Because what happens again to realise this, what happens like if you're if you're a restaurant, what if? If a restaurant might be a bit a bit far better, but if the Czech's good enough, because we know during the Olympics in Brisbane, for example, the rent's gonna skyrocket when people who have houses will move out to Airbnb them. And all that happens right within Olympic Games. It's no different to these brands getting in early.
You're gonna get a better price now than you are when you're 2 years out locking in space already. So have we sorted the in the beginning house in the? Beginning for We are Brisbane 20. We're an hour away from the. Action we're a little actually, it's probably as close as some people. We're in the house. This is we actually we, I mean, in all seriousness, we should start planning our 2032 podcast. He's. Kidding. It's gonna be busy. I like.
For me, it's, I think I thought this may have happened a bit earlier, you know, straight after the Games finished in Paris last year. But now the election's just gone, and I think there's some momentum coming back into everything I'm seeing. I'm hearing, seeing part of, you know, things are starting to really, you know, ramp up and move. And it's exciting times. And the Olympics is awesome. It's so awesome. And there's two. Sides to this let's just say.
Yeah. We're sports advocates, that's right. So we're all organisms being on the side of sport. I do acknowledge there is two sides of. Course, but you know what? We're going to talk about. This is our podcast, and we don't have to talk about the other stuff. OK, cool. Anyway, Darcy Fogarty Yep, back, back to the if I had biceps that big, I'd put cans of beer on
them, too. So I'm interested, yeah, we is this going to become a bit of a trend like one up each other, but it's also, you know, like we get a mullet, mullet started, they got it and it's gone crazy. Is the TAT, is the branded TAT going to become a thing? It's so it's that thing, though I reckon now the AFL behind closed doors would be going. We need to find a way to close this door. Yes, Darcy's opened it. We're going to close it. I'm 100% agreeing absolutely that is is going to happen.
Let's move on. What do we got next? What do we got next? All right, have a listen. Be honest. It starts to get a little bit disrespectful to these athletes to think that only in track and film doesn't happen. Nobody expects that in any other story. But in track, Oh yeah, we'll just let anybody who says they're fast just come in and, you know, get a chance to prove it. Can't go just play in the NBA just because you're a street ball legend. Doesn't work that way.
You want to prove it competing NCAA's, you know, and becoming NCAA athlete and then work your way in, you know, that's, that's that's the process for every other sport. And now we're granted some trike. That is the process with this sport. But we will put those extraditions in our programme, right? So, yeah, you know, I should speak. Come on, bro. We, we, we got some other figures, you know, we got some other content theatres who think that they're quick too.
We can match you up against them. We're we're all about that. Michael Johnson. Like one of the greats. Quickly, before we get into what he's talking about the weird running style, right? Super upright. Yeah. But if you look at like if you're comparing yes, yes is the answer. Not it was. It was unique. That's it went like. Bolt gout I shouldn't compare them to in the same set as right now. Today after the last week, yeah.
But, you know, you look at their body shape and styles, it's also unique in the way they drive through. I think he was like Michael was probably a little bit stockier so it was probably over exaggerated. They're very, they're short steps too. Yeah, very, you know. But unique in the best. You can't do that. Anyway, he's here talking about he's obviously behind this concept of the Grand Slam track.
Grand Slam track. It's like, I suppose he's American style thing going up against Golden League and whatever else in athletics. I was a bit confused because it started off saying Conor nearly having a dig, that influences shouldn't be able to just jump in and have a run against, you know, the best in the world, but then finished by saying we'll have some of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll take your eyeballs. Absolutely.
Yeah. It's, it struck me that I think it's almost a quote out of context a little bit, because he was. Well, it got it got our attention off the front. It did, but he was taking a shot and he's right. It seemingly that it's not real. I don't feel like it's happening a lot across the road, but aboard rather. But I show speed. Who's this? The young people will know. Some of the old people who listen to this might not have a
clue who we're talking about. He's basically the biggest online personality on the Internet. He's a streamer, huge followers I. Think he turned up out he we did you cover that on radio when he cavil cavil. But then he also showed up about it, Surfers Paradise, Demons, AFL Field and it was chalkers. The kids, the kids, it's it's it's insane, the following and the fandom that the people that follow him have. So did you catch who he? Ran against on the track, so.
He previously ran against the, he had a yeah, he had a, he had a hit out against no Noah Lyles. And I think they only ran over 60 metres or something like that because I show speed. Part of his persona is that he's, he's, he's, well, he's but also capable of anything, right? Yeah. He does backflips and he jumps cars and all this sort of stuff. And he raised Noah Lyles and genuinely believed that he had
him. Like genuinely believed that he was faster than Noah Lyles. That's the level of delusion that he's part of. He's been. Doing no, I can't recall. Did he blow him away? Noah Lyles is cantering alongside. Yeah, like he's playing. He's. Don't get me. What's wrong? I showed speed dusts me in a race and like probably and he's probably faster, significantly faster than the average.
Human. But it's like every sport when you've compared it to the elite of the elite, someone who's better than average or. Good, still looks looks exactly. I've always had this analogy of on bikes. I can ride a mountain bike, yeah, but I can't really ride a mountain bike. Yeah, I can ride a bike. So that that's what he's talking about there. What I'm with you though, what gets interesting is this concept of Grand Slam track because they've already had the first
meet. So this Jamaica. Yeah, in Kingston. And I, I disappeared down a rabbit hole on this after you sent me through ahead of today because I the Grand Slam track, the notion of it 4 events not far apart, the best athletes in the world competing against challenges. I'm like, right, This feels like a very, as I say, Americanized concept. It feels like it's got a bit of the golf and the tennis idea of creating Grand Slam events. Yes, crowning winners all ball.
But on paper that simple idea sounds great. And then it gets confusing. It's complicated, right? It is so confusing what this thing is, the way it's so 4 events, Kingston, Miami, Philadelphia and LA, yeah, they're the host cities. Then the competitors are made up of 48 contracted best athletes versus 48 challenges. So in each race and. Who are the challenges? Well, they're still elite athletes, but they're the kind of the next best four who who has signed up to be
participants. They're not the influencers. These are not where I thought they were going. No. And then there's it's then he's tried to sort of gamify it by having the race groups. So each of these race groups has two races. It could be short sprints or long sprints or short hurdles or long hurdles or short distance or long distance. And then there's scoring based on where you finish over the two
different racing groups. And then the competitor who wins the highest points, Soto wins the group. And then there's a slam champion crown per group. And then at the end of the four years there's a dominant score. It got so confusing so quickly. I love sport, Courtney. I don't understand how this works. I've got the website of frequently asked questions in front of me because I thought I'd better do my homework today when I saw you were all into this.
I got about 3 scrolls down and went I'm lost, I'm lost. It's so confusing then I. Went to watch the video to try and explain what it was. Yeah. And how Long's the video? 51 seconds. Play it. You don't have a pop. Yeah, press play and I'll and I'll Ding when I get confused. So this is the Grand Slam track for.
This Guy, a new pro track league, is debuting this spring and it's the brainchild of four time Olympic champ Michael Johnson. The new Grand Slam of Track will aim to showcase the sport to fans outside of the Olympic Games. The athletes involved, 48 men and 48 women, will compete for a share of the total prize pool of $12.6 million. Among the big names competing are American sprinter Fred Curley and Canadian middle distance runner Marco A Rope. There are four stops on the
circuit. Beginning April 4th in Kingston, Jamaica, runners will compete in one of six event groups, short and long sprints, short and long hurdles, and short and long distance. Athletes competing in each group will run 2 races at each Grand Slam and collect points for their results on a sliding scale. The racer that earns the most points by the end of the final slam will be crowned Racer of the Year. Catch all events live on CBC Sports and. Points and sliding scales and. Race groups.
Long sprints. And they don't have the best in the world. And this is the key point because after you sent this through, I went on now I think it's called Beyond the Record. Yeah, Yeah. Beyond the Records, which is now allows podcasts. And I found the episode where he talks about this and why he said no. And he basically said, because he looked at it and said, I don't see how you're making money out of this. You're talking about a $12.6 million prize pool. Which first is only 100,000, so
that splits out to a lot. Less. Yeah, it sounds like a lot more it. Sounds like a lot more impressive than it. Is but also the points he and his Co host on these podcasts were talking about was where's the TV deal? Where can people watch this? And he's talking about the size of the fields where they're having these mates like Kingston and all the rest of that. He's like to make money, you're going to have to charge an exorbitant amount of money to
people to enter these things. And as, and I've, I've seen some clips from Kingston, the first mate, there's no one in the stands. No, there's no one in the end, so. It's made for TV, but I just. But so Noah Lyles said no because he said the business model, in my opinion doesn't work. And I don't see how you make money from this and how in kind I make money from this. And he is all about the
business. Noah Lyles is all about making money and making track, a money making industry and league like the NBA is the NFL. He's the guy who came out after the Olympics said I want my own shoe, not a track spike. I want a shoe. He still doesn't have a shoe. But yeah, this this Grand Slam track whilst I I get, I can see how Michael Johnson is thinking, let's create a big thing that's not the Diamond League. I don't know how it's going to long term well. Let's give it a year and see.
But yeah, it's when it comes to sport and running. Running's a pretty simple. Like for all sports, running should be the most simple thing. Literally put a pair of shoes on, pick a distance and you erase someone. Well, let's compare it to the Maori plant mate that just happened down in Melbourne recently the other week. For anybody that didn't see it in Australia, it was the big mate down in Melbourne. I thought they did that really well. And was sold out.
I thought they did that really, really well. Now they they put Gout Gout's race as the final event of the entire meet. Smart move. It's where all the buzz is. Melbourne's a great city to host this thing. They didn't need to go and build a new stadium or anything like that. They branded it. Well, there was excitement generated. Sold out event, boom. And you had hit the other thing. I'll say Bruce Mccavaney commentating. Yeah, Bruce Mcavany accommodating Gout's race and Locky Kennedy.
Question for you. Here we go without gout there in that final race. Does that Murray Plant meet outside of the hardcore athletics fans? Get a look at No. We were sitting at dinner in Tasmania, multiple people at the table, not me. I was being not being rude. Multiple people at the table had their phones waiting for gout to race. Like, I just wonder. I mean that as much as we we want to protect him, he's also driving this, this athletics boom. Absolutely, whether he likes it
or not, because there's a lot. Cam Myers, We've got a lot of great athletes, so many great athletes, but the one who's drawing the public eyeballs no doubt is Scout. Yeah. It because it's he's unique, he's new, he's competing in events that we traditionally aren't strong in. He's already garnering and the market. Blue Blue Ribbon event. But the marketability of him is also evident by the fact that Noah Laws has had him on his podcast. He is making noise in the biggest market for.
Athletes and calling him out, that was impressive. So yeah. Anyway, good luck to Michael Johnson if you need an official podcast for the Grand Slam track in the beginning. Definitely available. Back to distance running, Liam. Choose jogging. Choose overpriced trainers. Choose choking on energy gels that taste like fucking cat piss. Choose bright trainers, run club pyramid schemes, useless electrolytes, mid splits and shit sunglasses.
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Choose transitioning from nightclubs and narcotics to running up mountains. Choose posting this all on your Instagram story even though nobody gives a fuck. Choose Running. I love these. I love these. They're so perfect. From Gerald Demolsky. Demolsky. They're so perfect. They're, they're just, it's so true. It's so true. In a good way, though. In true in a good way. Great way, yeah, in a great way. I listen to that and I which. One resonated. Telling your Co workers you
gotta run slow to run. I am so guilty of that. I don't know about making it my whole personality. Sometimes I do feel like I'm I talk too much about running, but I that's it's great. It's great. The. The narcotics one, probably not narcotics, but clubbing. You know, like people out clubbing one day like their party is and then suddenly like turn into the most healthy green runners getting up at 5:00 AM. That switch is amazing. That's the one I like out of it.
Almost. It's the new midlife crisis, to some extent. Yeah, but it's happening when you're 25. Yeah, it's a. Quarter life crisis, right? The stereotype used to be getting the sports car and and sleeping with your receptionist. That's the old school stereotype. The new school stereotype is buying a pair of carbon plates and joining a run clock. Do you know who's very jealous of all this at the moment? Triathlon. Really. Well, that used to be the midlife. That was the midlife crisis, and
now there's a younger. Midwife yeah, yeah, running's come. The more people want to send that stuff in, the better. Now we I we've been sent this is new ground for in the beginning podcast because. And we love the comments, comments on Spotify, people who listen there, the comments on the Instagram page, people who send stuff there. Love it all and keep doing it, but for the first time in the beginning, podcast has been sent an audio message. Yes, without being prompted,
which is amazing. So feel free to feel free in the future. Yeah, so let's hit it. Boys Benny, I've literally just finished the London Landmarks Half marathon. Oh well. What they told us would be 1/2 marathon, 20.54 kilometres. The watch came back at the race, says that it's a half marathon. Want to get your opinions fellas? Got a PB for for 20.54 kilometres of an hour and 26 minutes. Do do we count that as a half marathon PB or does it just not count?
Now? I attribute this feeling to being offered 1,000,000 bucks and then being given $0.50 instead. Happy with my effort but absolutely shattered. Yeah. What's your thoughts fellas? Anyway Liam, actually your, your running techniques that you were sharing mate. Some of them were quite handy along the way as well. So kudos to you fellas. Love the podcast, listen to it every week. You boys got me through it I reckon. Take care, fellas.
Big shout out to Ben Tennant. Listen, yeah, of course you're shouting him out. He's given. He's given you the big kudos. All right, there's lots to get to firstly 1010 and massive shout out. Thank you for sending that audio message in and Ben has now opened the gate as far as I'm concerned. You want to send in audio messages, questions, thoughts, feedback? We're open to it We. Will vet though if you're happy. Yeah, we'll check them if you're happy for us to use them on the podcast.
All audio messages now welcome. Now let's get back to Ben. The big dilemma here. Just have you ever run the London Half the Landmarks Half Marathon? No, I. New one to me, I've never done it, but what an epic track what an epic track. Over this half marathon you get to run past and take in Big Ben, the London Eye, Nelson's Column, Saint Paul's Cathedral, the Gherkin, the Bank of it, like it's the Tower of London. It's. Literally, you're the red bus,
yes? You're the you're the tour bus, and you're running it the whole way. What an epic track. Love it. Landmark. Well done to the erase organisers you've got. You've come up with a half marathon that's got a great gimmick. London Landmarks half marathon. Amazing idea. And the big question is, is, is a short course? What can Ben claim? His result? You tell me. He can claim his result. I don't think you can claim a time. Sorry, Ben. So he hasn't run.
That's not he hasn't run a. That's not his marathon. Half marathon. Time. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't think you can. I don't think it's any different to when I was running triathlons coming in a 2028 high 29 low. Could go and telling everyone you really ran that, but no, just cheating yourself. Oh Ben, Benny. Oh, Ben. I blame it on the race though, Ben. I agree. I mean, if they're going to advertise 21.1, yeah, 2.1 half marathon, half marathon, they
should make it a half marathon. This is crazy. As far as, and we're thinking, I'm thinking about these on the fly here, as far as crimes that a race organiser can commit, where does getting the distance wrong? Well, is it worse if it's long or whether it's short? There you go. It's worse if it's short.
Really. Oh yeah, If you're short changing people on that, if you're for the average runner, being short is worse because you're short changing someone like Ben on the achievement of the distance. Yeah. Because you it's not a half marathon. I mean, what so if like short changing them on the distance, if that's a crime, what are some other crimes race organisers commit? You've you've raced at the pointy end. I will say disorganised aid station. Too few, too few. Too few an aid station.
No, no, too few toilet blocks. Or too few toilet blocks. See, I've never had that drama. Number one. Well, at the start line or along the course. No, it well could be both, but I'm thinking more start line. Yeah, but it feels like that's a weird anomaly with events. I don't think you can ever have enough. Like, I think if you had, even if you had a toilet for every competitor in the race, somehow they'd still be busy with a new one. It's just this weird quirk that
exists. What else do races? Can they stuff up? Course measurements are the big one. Really. Course. Measurements are the big. One, I don't know. I'm just trying to think, what shall I get? Corners. Yeah. Too many corners in a race. But you know that. You know that. The London Landmarks Half Marathon is full of them. Like I'm just looking at the course map on the computer in front of me. This thing is a you are doing a
lot of sharp. Angle to road running, There's probably not too much you can get wrong. There's probably not too much other than the distance you can go wrong, right? So that is the major crime. But it has made me think, and I'm sure someone else was thinking this, when we're talking about under distances, what's your take on running a race or a marathon? It can be any distance and taking your Strava half marathon time, taking your watch's time instead of taking the race's
time. Oh, whichever one's faster. Yeah, so. Can you claim so the you believe the course is long because your GPS tells you it's long and you say I ran the Gold Coast Marathon in three hours. Yeah, I broke 3 hours. Or your time across the line was actually 3 hours. So this is and 10 seconds. So this is a hypothetical. Yeah, this is hypothetical for 12 weeks time. Yeah, I crossed the line.
It's three hours and 10 seconds, but when you upload to Strava, your watch tells you you've got a PB in the marathon and you've run 2 hours 5947. There's only one answer. Liam here. I can't claim it. You can't claim it, damn it. But those who live in the world are digital, 100% claim it. I mean, this is one of the biggest accusations out there of running. But if you're in A, especially if you're in a like a certified race, yeah, where the course should be, right?
Yeah, it's a bit different of this year, you know. If you're doing a run off your own, yeah, but. Because we do know GPS is a better same with that's what we still want to be able to do is get a little bit better understanding for people of in this Road to Gold Coast series or in the beginning runs Gold Coast is understanding the course and how what goes into it, how you measure it. Yes we do. We do need to get a bit. Actually a friend of mine is IF. You have a course.
Sorry, jump in. If you have a course where there is a heap of corners and you're apexing everything with Agps, that's where some of these problems come into effect. A friend of mine who just explained to everybody what apexing the corners is. Like from car racing. So what you're going around a 90° corner. Instead of running it a metre out like that, measure it a metre out from the gutter the whole way. You literally cut in the shortest path possible and take
it as a straight line. OK, so you cut across the the apex or the point of the corner to take the shortest route. What you effectively are doing is running shorter than the courses being measured every time that happens. As if. As if I didn't have enough to worry about about the marathon in 12. Weeks time. The good news with Gold Coast is there isn't a lot of those style of corners, OK? Look going back to Ben though. Back to Ben. Big shout out. Love that he's done that.
Love the yes, I love that you're using my running cues as a way to get through it. Wonder. Which one? Which one are you guessing? Lean forward. Lean forward. For for everyday bodies like me and people at my level, The Lean Forward hack late in the race is a absolute goldmine. Yeah, and and I I don't imagine on that London landmarks half marathon he would have been doing too much hills where you the my other tip was swing the arms. Think about your arms. Oh, no problem.
I'm just thinking on there they might go under a few underpasses. Yeah, maybe Pop maybe 'cause he's kind of similar to Brisbane where you're just going under the that brekkie Creek. One, Yep 'cause my other running tip cue that I had was focus on your arm so you stop thinking about your hats or your legs. But I reckon it's the lean forward hinge at the hips, little bit of lean. Forward how good? Free speed. You're making a difference. Liam, there we go.
You're making. A difference 1/2 marathon, Well, we can't call him a half marathon or he didn't run far enough. Thanks for listening, Benny. We love that you're getting involved. We got some more loose ends from last week though, Courtney. We do, and this one's mine because I brought up the old Gatorade versus parade battle. So Luke Towel got back to us boys love the pod, have gone back to the eat, gone back to the beginning of in the beginning and in the middle of
the land. Listening all the way through Gatorade over Powerade is a no brainer. It's fun. Nerdy fact is it has about twice as much sodium as Powerade. Sodium salt, right? Yeah. So this is a good thing. Generally, if you're out running and you're sweating, forget the two for forget the two for one survey deals. Cole and Woollies regularly have them for $2.00 a bottle, which is true. I do jump all over those specials when I see them. Do you know Cole's just deleted
Maximus? Oh, no, off the shelf because that was the same. So I'm relying on two, I'm relying on 2 for one. But what I got got me interested because like we have talked a bit about this gay raid versus parade type thing. Another one, oh, sorry, I've forgotten who, who actually sent this to me. But it was about how sweet. Did he just say that? I'm losing my brain. Did he just say something about sweetness? Now he's just talking about
sodium. So someone else sent me someone else sent me that they prefer Gatorade, that they think Powerade always tastes sweetener. Now there is a reason for that. So even though they got the same amount of sugars in them, Gatorade, the sugar comes from sucrose and dextrose. With Powerade, it's purely high fructose corn syrup. So really, really it's a
sweeter. So even though it's the same amount of sugar, you're going to get a sweeter taste out of the Powerade because it's using the high fructose corn syrup. I'm not going to get into which one of them is better as a sugar, but that is the reason why you might find. No. Taste different? It's a bit different now. OK.
I'm I'm not sure on the sodium as much I mean Gatorade has a bit more but maybe I'm getting the wrong information on this Potassium. Other interesting one is Powerade includes some vitamin BS. What are they good for? Metabolism. Is it general general making helping functions in the body work better? I've got to be honest, vitamins are a real blind spot in my knowledge. Like, I know vitamin C comes from oranges, and I know vitamin D comes from the sun, and that's about it.
Well, if you if the old Andy's right, and Benita told us this not long ago, if you're eating, getting all the right food in, eating pretty healthy, probably shouldn't be too much need to go over the top of vitamins. But anyway, on the sweetness, that's maybe why there is some people, yeah, some people having a. Real preference difference. Nice one. We got some feedback from Christian. Now this is, I don't know, he's harking back to what are we up episode 30 today?
This is going all the way back to episode 21. Shout out Christian, this is great. This is I didn't realise we were going so global court and we got a fella running in London listening to the podcast and we got Christian all the way from Canada who is listening back to episode 21 today. And this is where we talked about the you brought the idea of which sports gave the longest lifespan expectancy or increased your ability to have a lifespan a racket sports, which was rapid racket sports.
Now, Christian said. I haven't read the CDC study on life prolongation myself, but I'd be interested to look into whether factors such as socioeconomic status were taken into account. Brackets. By and large, racquet sports require people to join high end clubs where memberships are MO more costly and tend to belong to people from wealthier backgrounds. In healthcare circles, we generally learnt that higher socioeconomic status equals longer life expectancy.
That is a very good point. Yeah, that is a very good point. Seems like some common sense. I mean and this is the problem. So if. You go, if you go racket sports, I mean, it's not super expensive, but it's right. You really probably can't like where we are. Let's say our circumstances here, if we wanted to go and play tennis, it is going to cost us some money. Yeah, it's not a free sport. It's not a free sport.
No, it's not like going and having a run around a park or it's not like going having a kick of the so it. Is interesting that if you somehow put a skew on that as into the cost and the availability of a certain sport versus the cost and availability of like even if you took running, because that's what we talk about.
I wonder if weighted that actually has a you know, there's yes, racquet sports have the overall life expectancy, but I find out what sport would be weighted to be the best outcome for all. You know what? And this is what I'll say to Christian. Anybody else that feels like asking these sort of questions? If you're smarter than we are, it's tough for us to answer
these questions, right? Because, I mean, we can hypothesise, but as I've learnt when I tried to compare your lungs to a toilet, people call you out when you say stupid stuff. Generally doctors. Yeah. Hey, can we talk some running? Yeah. Personally, what are you up to? I had my first run back from Kunani. Yes. Had a full week off, full seven days. It's sore. Really sore. Doms were there. Doms were there. And then I mowed the lawn and I thought I'd to to really pull it back.
I thought I had ruined our in the beginning runs the Gold Coast Marathon. Series. Well, I'd already done that because. You stuffed it by getting injured and then so heavy was the head for me that wears the crown. All responsibility on me. I mowed the lawn and I woke up the next day and I thought I'd torn my hamstring just because of the doms through my quads from Kunani and the process of mowing the lawn and leaning over and I was pulling out all the
doing this crap by hand. I thought I'd torn my hamstring and I was, I was as nervous as I've been. I was so concerned about what I'd done. And then I was like, I might have stuffed the whole series here. So I went out, I got a massage, I went out for a run and it seems OK. And I'll let you in on a secret. Well, I was just as nervous because I thought, Oh no, I'm the one who put him in this
race, got him to go down there. You know, our focus, our focus for Liam is the Gold Coast Marathon, and here I am. It's going to be my fault that I've derailed it in the beginning. No, I think we're I think we're OK. I've gone for that run and it was a third did now felt OK. There was some hamstring awareness, but it's pulled up really well. OK, good news. I'm going to keep looking after it. I'm less. Stressed. Today, be less stressed, be less
stressed. So I think, and look, I'm talking with Coach Benita and you'll hear it on this Wednesday's podcast, The Converse, and she actually adjusts this first week of training because of this injury. And this is what we want to do with this series is it's live. When Benita comes in and chats to yourself and Bronte, she is giving a live like prescription of what you should be doing, training, adjusting, giving the reasoning behind it.
You're getting, you're getting to eavesdrop on a master coach at work before we go to your week and I know you still can't run, but quick celebrity shout out. We've gone to London, we've gone to Canada. Quick celebrity shout out to David Michael Luttrell, AKA Lutzi of Nova, who replied to one of our stories the other week, sent me a message saying I think it's when you were giving
your starting line advice. As in, if you've gone, if you feel like you've gone out too fast, you definitely have. If you feel like you're going out at the right place, you're still too fast. If you feel like, jeez, this place is slow, probably right, you're bet the right pace.
Nazi sent me a message and said I'm not sure I've ever told you this, but as a nudgy kid a few years older than Courtney, we used to get to GPS cross country meets early just to watch the little blonde haired kid from Southport school a couple of 100 metres ahead of the pack. Did you, did you know, like so you went to school with all lots? It was a different school, but you're competing across country. Yeah. Did you? Were you aware of how good you were at the school cross country
meets? I suppose yes and no. I mean, I can recall the thing was I got to when I was the young, like when I was in the younger grades. OK, here's the story. So the school I went to, we do, we did compulsory cadets. So we were effectively reserve army. So every week on one day, on a Friday, we'd be dressed. Army boots go to school, Army we'd have to go to Army camp. I hated army camp. I was AI was, you know, I'm an elite athlete, I'm a runner.
The last place I wanted to be was up in the Bush on Army camp. So I can recall when I was in, I think it was in grade maybe 9, so 4 years before being a senior. So about. 14 Yeah. And I got a call up and I was actually on Army camp and they, I got the call up to go and replace someone from the senior team running at whatever it was, maybe the GPS or the OR the regional run mate. And I thought I was the bomb mate. I got to walk out. I got driven out.
I got a yeah, someone came, picked me up from the Army camp kit, go home, get the running gear and I'm off to running. And that was probably, you know, it's those little things that drive you to want to be professional and do all that. Yeah. But it's those times like that I might have realised, hey, I'm, I'm. You're going all right. Well, not only going all right, but this is actually getting me out of doing. The better I can do it this, the less of this stuff I have to do.
There's a life of privilege here 100. Percent, but on Lutzi. So Lutzi, for those who don't know, he's Nova Radio. Preki Radio Nova in Brisbane. And he's been at that what, 35 years or something. So I met Latzi not through like he was older than me at Nudgee College in a competitor school, but I met him for the first time when I just left school, going out to race triathlon. And we were on TV. So we used to do that's like you go out to the Gold Coast Suns and see dimmer and that for
press conferences. He came to one of my press conferences that we were going to race in Brisbane in the triathlon the next day. Now he in the radio those days he literally had the the the big box mic thing and everything. He interviewed me. As a young boy. And that was when I first came across last year now where, you know, a lot of friends. Yeah. Lutzi's a fixture around he there. There is a man who you talk about the die hard athletics fans. He loves athletics.
He has a proper passion for the sport of athletics. And we should have his pottery shout so he himself and someone from the Curie Mail do you know? They do. I don't want to call it road to Brisbane. They do in an Olympic well. Oh, towards the game. Towards the game. That's what the podcast is called. Towards the Games podcast. It's all about passion for Brisbane, Brisbane. Number one, that man has. And passion for Olympics. Yeah, they're and they're talking about the Olympics and
everything else. We probably should go and learn a few things often. No, it's a it's a it's a good pod like for you know, everybody has these throw your hands up. What was me catastrophe moments about the Brisbane Olympic Games? But theirs is a long term consistent view. So if you are genuinely interested about the Brisbane Olympics and how the city as a whole is going to move towards it, it's probably a good podcast to lose that without the hysteria, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that. You're getting from a lot of places that just dip in and out of it. And talking about small worlds on stories. I'll sit in at Malou, at the pub at Moolaba. So the surf club, Moolaba surf club. And I was having a beer with Latzi, then your old colleague Dubbo. We're literally talking about this Brisbane, this Brisbane Olympic thing that he's doing in podcasts. This is before we started a podcast. Yeah. Dubbo comes over, That comes over.
Hey, fellas, you know, all the competitor radio guys in one thing. And, you know, it's a small world, isn't it, here in the Southeast? It's very small world and and to that point, radio. Yes, it's competition, but there's good people at every station. Yep, there's decent people. You know, it's not that serious. We're not saving the world. What can do you have? I mean, I give you these run updates now. Do you have what are your updates for me? What can you tell us on the
injury? There's not much going on mate. I'm still resting. Good news is I feel I feel good. Like like like all the docs and and the professionals were telling me I'd probably get about two or three weeks into this and think you're ready to go. But being obviously a a bone reaction, you just got to wait it out. So I'm swimming. Yep, no tumble. How is that interestingly so I don't, I mean, it's the one thing out of everything in triathlon that I don't do a lot of anymore.
Like probably haven't swam in a year, right. But funny enough, I jump in the lake and, you know, turn the arms over and it just feels like yesterday. Yeah, probably if I tried to go a bit harder, it might be the old VO2. Might, might get a hit, the old arms might get hit. But it's been pretty good. And then we've got to just, we're just going to let it rest a little bit more and then I'll get into some light riding. So just on the ergo and then into some strength stuff.
And hopefully, hey, look, The thing is when whenever you get injured like this, and this is probably the longest, actually, this will be the longest I've haven't run. There you go. Ever. Ever since I was, this will be the longest time I've gone without running since I was 13. What are you now, 44? Jeez. So put, yeah. Wow. And it's not, it's not a problem. Like I'm actually fine with it.
The one thing is, and doing this podcast like we do it too is starting to realise how quickly six weeks goes flies by. Yeah. So like, I'm pretty much halfway through the rest anyway. Flies by a few. Holidays over Easter and before I know it, I'll be back back running. That's one thing that freaked me out a little bit the other day and it's amazing. The time resting goes by quick, right?
Yeah, this week post Kanani I, the one we, I had a week off and I went and went for my run yesterday, that first run, but I was like, holy hell, like, has that been a week already? I feel like like Kanani was 2 days ago and I'm already back running. And then I thought about 12 weeks leading into Gold Coast, I'm like, oh, that's going to go so quickly. He's going to go very quickly. So make sure you're following along on the Wednesday episode. Yeah. Just just focus on those.
Long runs now. Focus on the long runs. We've we love, I mean, shout out to Ben who broke new ground on the podcast this week by sending us an audio message. And again, if you want to send audio messages in, we are now taking them. This feels I love that we're doing this audio messages so you can send those through to the Instagram. It's the best way to do it.
Armadale is is is fast becoming out the number what the capital of in the beginning podcast as far as events go and Ryan Kelso is probably at least on the board of the in the beginning listener committee. Yeah, I think once once we go public, he will definitely need to get a seat. Yeah. But Ryan, for those you might have followed on along previous episodes, big supporter of the podcast regularly messages in engages in a really great way. And he set up the Armadale Running Festival.
He's created this event. We talked about it on the last episode, 14th and 15th of March. It's an epic looking Instagram page. He's done a great job and he is trying to build the running community in Armadale, which is great. And he's created this festival for next year now. I said last week when you told me about this that we should go down there next year. Yeah, and I was. Like and you were lukewarm at best. Well I was like just settle before we start throwing out. You were.
You were. Throwing out things that we can't you were lukewarm at. Best. Commit to I was lukewarm. And Ryan has heard this, Courtney and Ryan has responded right. And he said, boys, that shout out was fire. I can see we have Liam on the hook, but I know Courtney needs a little more. So be prepared for the best plug. Been thinking about this all day. It's like an engagement and I know I only get one shot, so brace yourselves.
I love this rhyme. This is excellent over the next few messages because it's quite a message. You're going to feel excitement like never before. You're going to wish this thing was two weeks away, not 11 months. And I can already see Courtney packing those rank recovery slides to take on the streets of Armadale. Here's the pitch. So prepare yourself in the beginning, family, because this is Ryan Kelso's pitch to us to get us involved with the Armadale Running Festival next year.
We've got a weekend lined up in Armadale that's all about community good times running and making it something the whole family can enjoy. And we'd love to have you guys involved. Friday afternoon we're kicking things off with a fun little community shakeout run from the brewery and back. Just a cruisy 1 to get the legs moving on the weekend started. Now Courtney, I will say at any point during this pitch, jump in with how you're feeling. Brewery. OK, it's a good start.
Friday night we'll be at the Welders Dog Brewery for sign on and it'll be a bit of a party. There'll be live music, fresh pizza and we're planning a boat race competition. OK, so a bit of drinking too. We'll make teams and either do a lap of the block where you run through a brewery, Scull a beer and pass a baton or 100 metre race down the closed off road. Council's given us the green light to shut it down for a couple of hours. Either way, it's going to be a laugh. That's.
Friday sounds like great prep for a marathon. Saturday is the big Community Day picture of proper Country market set up with a running festival happening alongside it. We're talking food stores, local business stores, coffee vans, drink stands, ice cream truck, everything we can pack in. We'll also have a kid zone with a jumping castle, face painting, play areas and picnic spots so families can settle in and enjoy the day on the big grassy area around the park.
Saturday's events are a free 1K run for kids under 8A3, KA 5K and A10K. You're. Right. So that's Saturday. OK. Right. OK, Family Day. Then on Sunday it's half marathon day, same community vibes, all the stores and attractions still going. A few extra things you to get you thinking. The crew from Cat Machinery are on board and are keen. Oh cat, Cat now. Yeah, Cat. Category. Ryan Courtneys Eyes of litter am I? You've got me. We're going listen to this.
We're going to run a Clydesdale class and park a big cat machine at the event for the kids to check out and take photos with. That is gold. The cat Clydesdales. That is gold. There you go, this is the big boy. That's the hundred KG plus thing. I might have to get eating. He continues. There's still more. We're getting local schools to decorate big real estate signs
and align the courses with them. Just another way to show off how awesome this town is. He's spoken to the school principals and they're keen to get school groups involved in the kids run. They'll be running in their school sports uniforms and we'll have ribbons for them too. The whole thing is family focused, so once your bag's packed, start packing the families too. And now for the final sale. Prepare yourself. Holy, I haven't read this yet. Have you read all this?
Oh no, I'd like to keep this is Oh no, I haven't read it. I didn't know about this next bit. OK. The boys at The Welders Dog are keen to do a special batch of In the Beginning podcast beer for the event. Jeez. You guys can design the branding and have a bit of fun with it, but they are super keen and can do whatever you want. We can then use it for the Friday night beer races and you boys can be team captains for another little rivalry game. Accommodation question mark sorted.
Got a mate who runs a motel and he's happy to put you and the families up. And finally, if you both run the half and one of you beats the other, whoever wins, I'll get an ITB 21.1 Winner's Name champion tattoo on my ass. Let's make it happen. This is. I don't know about the tattoo. I don't. Know about the tattoo, but the. Beer can is a hell of a character dangle. No, I'm going to show you. What do you reckon about that on a beer can? Oh I know I should be showing that yet.
Been working on a little something And when did? You draw that up. And maybe This is why I was doing it. This is a little new logo I've sent Liam because I think we kind of started this podcast where we just like, let's just do it and we didn't really plan on it too much. OK, but it's got to the stage. Where I thought we actually need to have something. That, that, that, that logo which will keep quiet. I think you might have to blur the camera on a beer can would
look unbelievable. It's definitely I'm still on the hook at the moment. So that's definitely, that's a good pitch isn't it Ryan? Anyone in business out? There, Ryan, standby. Standby. You reckon we could? I'm in. We said we're not really in heavy machinery. I am in like I'm, I'm in. And what the what I will say is I think we've got enough lead time. We've got almost a year. I think we could make this
happen. I mean, look, we're in the middle of doing in the beginning runs the Gold Coast Marathon. In the beginning, let's. See if we can't find a partner for In the Beginning Runs Armadale Running Festival. Right Ryan, that is a pitch and 1/2. It's great pitch, Ryan, if you're on. I I hard to excite me, but you got me on the. The beer can. The beer can. If, if, if you're on Shark Tank, Ryan, I'm still in, right? We've got a gear to talk about this. One, I've got a concept in gear. Jeez.
So going back, we mentioned triathlon earlier on. Being a little bit envious of running at the moment, can you explain what a triathlete weighs? Try athlete wears a suit. Try a suit. You'll need goggles and a swim cap during the swim. Then in transition onto the bike, you'll put your bike shoes on. Socks for your amateurs like me. You put a helmet on, but you. Wear the one thing that may, Yeah. You're in a suit, you're gonna swim right the whole way through.
Can you imagine a suit for running? So we wear, so we go out on it. This is probably more trail running I'm talking about here now. So you, when we go out trail running like you did on the weekend, you had the Salomon vest on. Just kidded. Yep. You had a few bottles in there too. Yep. Weigh you down. What else did you have to wear? You had. To I've still got your mandatory gear stuff that you had. Your space blanket? Yes. Snake bandage? A fair bit of gear.
You've got a cart up, quite a bit of kit. What about if you could just put that into your race? Suit Nah, don't like it first first reaction don't like it No, no. I'll tell you why you. Don't want to run in Lycra? No, I'll tell you why. Because I, that gives my brain a sense of claustrophobia, the fact that everything's enclosed and I couldn't take any of it off if I couldn't separate myself from the weight of it all. My brain, that's what my brain is doing right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm getting a little bit claustrophobic, you know? That you know the you know the Solomon, the shorts because they've got the pockets, both sides amazing, they're amazing and they hold well. Like this is just on this. This is taking it to the next level of imagine having a whole suit. Right. Can I ask a question? This is the I, this is I'm doing this a lot this year in all my walks of life. I'm doing it at home with staff and I'm doing it at work with
stuff. And I'm going to do it with you right now, Courtney, for the first time. Why? Why do this? Why create this? Is it necessary it for an? Elite it could be lighter not carrying a vest. Let's answer your question is I hate it too. I got out of that. I don't want to wear Lycra. I don't want to. Wear lycra. So Can you imagine what I'm thinking? Anyone listening just think it's like a Lycra Tri suit with arms and it's got pockets, pockets. It's got pockets built in
everywhere. That was what in my head where I was thinking. Can we quickly talk about your lycra days? Yeah. How? What was it like that That was your uniform? Just Lycra? I've never really thought about it, but the one thing that happens is when someone goes, are you concerned about, you know, like in normal everyday life, if you had your shirt off or, you know, wearing a pair of, yeah, just underpants or whatever, like wearing your underpants around.
I'm like, oh, I spent 20 years of my life on on international TV running around. In Lyra and Lyra, what did you wear underneath? Nothing. Did you go, you freeball? Oh. Of course, really. But we had a little pad. Like a Did everybody free ball? Not everyone. So there was a suit that came out called. It was a brand called. It was a French brand called 0D. OK. Or zerod 0D or zerod and they brought out this new material that was like it was instead of
lycra. It was like a paper thin wafer style material and that left nothing to the imagination. Really. So guys were wearing Dickies underneath those suits because it was ridiculously thin. Yeah. And I wore one of those suits in. I'm just trying to think what games actually going back now. Here's one. Here's a bit of Undercover. Stuff. Here we go. If you've lasted this far into the episode, here's something you won't hear about at the
Olympics every day. So when we wore our race suits at the Olympics, they had to be added as. They weren't added as they were white branded to normal suits we'd wear and plastered with added us on. Added us. Didn't make the suits for us. Because their suit. Because they didn't make suits or. No, they made suits. I wore an added suit in one Olympics, but in the other Olympics we chose another brand to wear and just labelled them added us. So when you saw that
performance? And was that OK? Yes, because it was a piece of technical equipment, but because it was technical equipment of a uniforms. And this is where it gets a bit. Tricky. Because it's uniform, right? It's got Australia on it, it's got the national emblem on it. It had to still be spot of the sponsored kit of the Australian team, so it was labelled as the Australian sponsor. However, it was not. It wasn't actually Boss wasn't that brand.
No, that's interesting. There's a little behind the scenes peek. I speaking behind the scenes peek. I don't understand how you confidently run around in those things. Free balling. I choose not to wear like or as much as I can. I can't. That's why I like me out of yeah, Baggies. You have had a little little accident on in TV any of the
coverage. I'm just thinking because Sam Lawler, the Richmond young fella in his first game, opening game of the season, celebrating a goal and I saw that yeah, yeah, little Sammy jumped out and said out of the 80,000 plus and turned up at the. MC So what wasn't he wearing? Dax I don't know. We're going down. We're we're going DVD I think. It's time. Yeah. Hey, that's all that's wrapped up for today, episode 30. We're loving the support.
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