Garrett J. White: How I Rebuilt My Life After Losing It All | E151

running. I'd been doing Iron Man's and they got in Ultra running. And it was in Ultra running, running 1015, miles in the middle of the trails in the mountains. And this voice became this inspiration. Everything we did with Wake Up Warrior transformed my life. But at that time, I had nothing, no money, an affair, addiction, just nothing. I had nothing. All I had was run. And this voice, at that time, started guiding me to see things about myself, and the first thing he did was truth.

This has been one of the best shows I've ever done. We went to a place where I've never gone before in 150 podcasts that I've done.

Garrett is a business, marriage and family coach who is best known for his Wake Up Warrior movement in the last 12 years, Garrett has coached more than 65,000 people from 27 countries with a mission for them to become their full and authentic selves for personal development. Garrett has an incredible story about redemption, resilience and a commitment to the truth as he rebuilt his life after losing his business and family by embracing transparency and authenticity here. Thanks for

being here. Welcome to In Search of Excellence. Randall, I am honored to be on this show. You've a great lineup. Excited to be part of that with you. Thanks for being here. You got it. I always start my show with parents. Our parents help influence and shape our future. You grew up in Washington and California. Your mom was passive and your dad was grew up in a military family. Tell us how your parents influenced your future and what they were like.

So my dad was the youngest of five kids, and he was the one child that wasn't raised in military, so he did the exact opposite. My grandfather, Colonel Air Force. My uncles all deployed, all of them active. And then my dad was the last one. My father, my grandfather, retired. He said, listen, we've given enough blood from our family to this country. You're going to do something different. So my dad actually became the opposite of my grandfather, my uncles, and became very soft.

And you would think he came from an aggressive background, that he would he chose the exact opposite. My mother, on the other hand, became the aggressive alpha in our house, and she came from the opposite, which was same thing, very soft family, and she chose the opposite, Beth. So somehow both of them flopped roles. You would think that my mother was raised in a military family, and my father was raised with people that just sat and quietly, peacefully, sat and enjoyed life. It was a complete

opposite, though. So my parents switched roles, and my dad became like a person that wasn't really involved in our lives. We I don't have a lot of memories of my dad. My dad was just very quiet, and we didn't make much money. And my dad was always gone, working, but not making much money, working. And my mom was constantly trying to figure out, how do I take care of these five children with almost no money? So cornbread and powdered milk and that game, my mom's only game for us was just

discipline. She was raised Catholic, very devout, then she became Mormon, even more devout, and then her role in her life was, my job is to get these kids back to God, back to heaven, and so all of it came through rigid discipline. That's why I'm people who got my parents are like, your mom's intense. She's intense as hell. I was like, yeah, she fucking real intense. Like, so intense from the time I was younger and I was the oldest. What did your dad do for

a living? And I want you to talk about your relationship a lot of people I know, and I think this is more of a male, male thing than a female, male thing. In terms of your parents, you had a rocky relationship at some point called antichrist. At some point, you punch your dad in the face. Yeah, so my dad and I, so I was raised in Mormonism, and my dad was a passive guy in the in the faith. My mom was, like, very disciplined, like, checklist. Here's the checklist, to heaven. My job is to get all

of us back to heaven. And if we don't, in Mormonism, the frame is really intense, because everything for them is eternal in nature, which means the belief system of the frame is, if you and I are in family and we don't both make it. We break the family chain, and the whole family is fucked. So everything in the frame of Mormonism is super fierce with do what's right, do what's right, do what's right. Long ass checklist. Do these things, and then you earn the right and the

glory and the grace of God. So my mom, with that rigid bank, raised me that way in 2009

inspiration. Everything we did with Wake Up Warrior transformed my life. But at that time, I had nothing, no money, an affair, my addiction, just nothing. I had nothing. All I had was run. And this voice at that time started guiding me to see things about myself, and the first thing it did was truth. Like the only thing I had to offer the world was truth. I had nothing else. I never knew money. All my teams are gone, all my companies are gone, all my money's gone. I fucks on the money a ton of

people. My wife doesn't want to doesn't trust me. She's pregnant with our second daughter. My affair is exposed. My life is exposed. So I have nothing to offer anyone. And this voice in me said, The only thing we can do is offer the truth, and we're going to start from that place. And so long before social media was cool to tell your darkness, I started speaking it, and part of that truth was leaving the Mormon church. So let's,

with God. I had a relationship with checklists of trying to be righteous and a superiority complex, which will make sense here in a second. So the premise is a guy named Joseph Smith came had a vision, and God came to him and said, all the churches are wrong. I'm going to give you the whole church. And now your job is to restore the gospel of Jesus Christ to the planet. And Mormonism was born. Now that whole premise is what I was raised in. We have the truth, the only truth, but there's also

a second book. So like the Bible, there's a book called The Book of Mormon. This is where Christians as a whole, to the Mormons, like, you can't add to the Bible. The Mormons like, we didn't add to it. There was another book of Scripture in the Americas that was based on Jesus Christ visits here and the visits in the Bible. So the whole premise of Mormonism is that the restored gospel of Jesus Christ is found only in

the Mormon faith. So I was raised in this place of being constantly told you're the only ones that have the truth. You're the we are the best, because God chose you were born into the Mormon church, so you did something right before you got here. Now I didn't have any bad basis. My life did not represent, nor did my family's life, that we show any fruit, really, that we were superior to

anything. But this was the energy that I was raised in which I didn't understand why other Christian faiths would look at Mormons the way they did, until I left the Mormon Church in 2009 and then I got to experience a whole bunch of other things. And for the first time, I can see, oh, I now see why a lot of people think they don't believe in Christ. Don't believe in Christ, which they do, and I also see why a lot of people have a hard problem, hard time with the Mormon frame.

That's what led to the collision with my father. So

athletes. I know a lot of athletes at BYU, and with that, that happens, but with our with our friends, they woke up one day and they decided that the Mormon church is not right for them, and they left the Mormon Church, both of them together, and they caused a very big dissension, divide between their family, and said, How could you do this? And it took a while to

repair that relationship. Is it common for families to leave the Mormon church where they say, Okay, this lifestyle isn't for me, and as I get to be an adult, I thought, Okay, well maybe I do want to drink. I do want to have premarital sex. I do. Want to do other behaviors 100%

investment bankers. There's tons reason why the Mormon church is worth what it's worth $160 billion

Mormon. You keep it in. It's part of how the wealth has grown. Because everything's kept inside of the circle. I'm gonna do a deal with you. I'm gonna do a deal with you. You're Mormon. There's an automatic sense of trust. Oh, you're Mormon, I'm Mormon. Let's do business. Oh, you're not Mormon. We might still do business, but if you were Mormon, we probably for

sure, would do business. So when you choose to extract yourself from that environment, it's not like being at a local community Christian Church, where you go to Vu here in Miami, and then you decide you don't want to go to Vu anymore. No one knows you left, because nobody really knew you were there. In a Mormon church, everything is registered. It's like from like you are. You are in the mix. So when you choose to extract, you're extracting yourself from the mafia. Now I'm not saying

that Mormons are mafia. The energy, though, is very family. Mafia tight. So when you say you're going to leave families will disown their children. We didn't talk to our families for five years. This led to the fight in my father's house, because my dad decides, when we me and my wife decide to leave the Mormon Church, which was unheard of on any sides of our family. Now mind you, half the people that were saying they were Mormon were doing all this shit you're not supposed to do

as a Mormon. I was just following a voice. It wasn't I thought the Mormons were bad or wrong or awful. It wasn't even, like, I don't want this lifestyle. I heard this voice in me that said, you're done. So went to my wife and I said, Kay, I'm done. She's like, whoo, thank goodness, because I was never in I was like, okay, she like, I thought you'd be done a long time ago, so I'm cool. She's more Buddhist. She's not even Christian. She just kind of send out. Woman listens to God

in her way. So when we leave, my dad holds a meeting at the house, and he says, gather all the family. So the family outcomes. I remember, my dad's not aggressive. My dad's very passive. He did the opposite of my grandfather. So we show up to the house, and all the family's gathered, and they have a family home evening. That's what's called a Mormon of faith, gather family, have a meeting, talk about God. There's a particular story in the Book of Mormon that talks about a guy named korhor.

Korriho was a guy who was trying to stir up trouble, kind of made like Saul was in the Bible, according to Christian faith in the New Testament, stirring up problems with the Christians. Saul becomes Paul. Christian faith builds on Paul. In the Book of Mormon, there's a guy named korhor who's causing problems. So my dad decides that the lesson he wants to give that day is a story about korri. Now the intention of this entire thing, my wife and I are sitting right there. My siblings are

sitting there. My dad delivers this message, and he's coming right at me with heat. Never seen my dad. My dad doesn't get physical. I was very violent, very physical. I was the opposite of my father. I was like my grandfather. So my dad starts to step up to me in the middle of this family meeting. Veins are popping out on his neck. Face is bled red. Fists are clenched, but I'm gonna sit in their calm. So we never

fought. We sat there. My mom's holding him back, and my dad's I rate now I understand why, because, in Mormon tradition, the oldest son, I've now broken the family chain, and everything my parents, in their spiritual frame, had worked for has was being shattered before their eyes, and the storyline to them is I've just crushed Our opportunity as a family to be together for eternity. So it was

a huge deal for my parents. So looking now back at it, I can understand what my father's way was, but he comes up to me, and I said, Listen, if you swing at me, this will be the worst decision you've ever made. Please stop. And my mom's holding his arms. He's so angry. I've never seen my father's angry my whole life, because I'm a typical very angry person. At that time my life, I kind of liked it, because I was like, Where the fuck was this guy? Like my whole young life growing

up? Where was this man that was supposed to lead me? Where was it dude? When I. Was getting fucked up after school every day in Stockton, where was the that was supposed to protect me? No, you were a fat, soft, diabetic dude who fucking hit and now you want to get tough with me. You want to get tough with me now, after I make one of the hardest decisions that I've ever made, to leave a faith in everyone I know, and to be abandoned by everyone in business, all of our family. Now you're gonna be a

tough guy. So my wife's sitting there, all my siblings are sitting there. No one can believe what's happening. They're like, what is going on. And that was last time I talked about Dad for five years, walked out of the house, packed our shit. We moved Arizona. We were living in Utah at the time. What's

houses, buy them cars. Take care of their life, make sure they're in abundance, because they can't take it themselves that way. But still, even to this day, my father and I maybe have a five minute conversation per year. One, one, that's it. And my mother and I probably, what does that look like? That five minute conversations? Not much. It's like surface. How are you?

for doing my life this way. And the thing was interesting about it was, I was like, Mom, look at the fruit of my life. Get off your religious checklist for a second and look at the fruit of my life. Look at the impact I am making on the world. Look at all the rest of our siblings. Bundle them all together, all of our cousins in every direction. Take everyone you fucking know, and they don't have one basket of the impact that me and my wife

are making on the world. I'm not trying to see this in place and make me better. I'm willing to do shit no one else is willing to do. Of all our family, I'm the one, and possibly I'm the chain breaker of poverty and scarcity and guilt and shame and obligation that you all are so trapped in, to the point that my wife won't go to family reunions. She refuses, because when we go there, it's something but judgment. It's just judgment. And I'm like, I understand, and she's not trying

to. It's the world that she was raised in. So I know the question was, like, how do you repair it? The truth is, it's not broken, but it's not awesome. I'm not upset at the same time, I'm not going to put myself and I watch so many people because it's family, but like, Well, my job is to put myself back into relationship with these people. The challenge is, if my vibration is here and my family is down here, then that means for me to come into their space, I have to suffer.

That is a deliberate choice to bring myself back into this. And so many families are spending time. I'm sitting in California right before Thanksgiving. I had to go to the DMV to get my driver's license issue. Fun. Oh my god, it's a nightmare. They closed down another one. There's like 600 people waiting in line. So I'm sitting there talking to people, and I'm listening to people. It's right before Thanksgiving, people just getting on the phone, arguing with other family members. It's

like there's a tradition. We have to go be with people because we were born with people. We still have family, tons of family. It's just our family of choice. Part of that is my wife's family. They choose to be part of our lives. My mother in law flies to us every other month for the past 10 years, my mother's come to us once in 10 years, I'm like, I'm raising five children. I'm

running three companies. I don't have time to fly to the middle of nowhere and go hang out in this energy that the whole time, all I can think about is, When are we leaving from this place, which is hard because people want to be connected to their family. But I've the message to constantly have is you have two families here. The family are born. You were blood born too, and you have the family you choose. There's a reason, like even getting divorced, it's like, okay, so you made a

decision. But if you're honest with yourself, why are you going to the family? Union, guilt, obligation. Feel like you have to. Yeah, unless you don't, and can you repair that? Yes, do I feel like there's a season coming where I'll repair that? I think so I feel it, is it this year? No, could it be next year? Could? Could my parents pass before that happens? Could? And people hear that from me, that's cold. I was like, I'm grateful to my parents for who they built

me to be. I'm grateful for that. At the same time as a 48 year old man living my life now, I don't choose to put myself in environments where the environment itself is not conducive to me, my wife or my children.

drawn to as a young man. I was an athlete. I got fights all the time. Like I was just drawn to that energy, like it was natural for me to be like, Hey, I'm in your space. So we were six years old. His sons were about my age, and we had had no problems. I didn't know anything. There was nothing like nothing. I had not had any issues with him. He was super aggressive and rude to his boys, but he wasn't like that to me. I was like his prodigy. I was his like little guy that

just followed him around. And we were in two different situations that began one of which was at my grandmother's house, and he pulled me into a bathroom at six.

the floor in the bathroom. I have the images of his penis in front of my face, erect. Come on my face, and I'm fucking six. I have a five year old, right? And this shit went on for two years. By the time it all ended, I took everything, boxed it up, and put it way down, and people died. Why are you so fucking angry all the time? There was a source of pain that was so intense this little boy was like a game controller. He's like, we're gonna turn him into a mean motherfucker. So this shit never

happens. The challenge was, I was still in this weird relationship with all powerful men, if you were big or powerful, so my answer was, get bigger to protect myself. No different than a woman who's raped will tend to get fat. She tries to make herself unattractive and pull away, so that this never happens again. And I only know this because I've spoken about this publicly now for seven or eight years, and I'll speak about it in groups of women, or I'll speak about in groups of men, and I'll

share inevitable response. The first time I shared on stage at my men's event, I was like, Okay, we're going full sand. I'm just gonna share the whole thing. I said, What I'm about to share with you is graphic, or what about share with you as a facts I'm about to share with you as a truth. I'm not sharing with you for you to feel sorry for me or to have sympathy for me. God's plan is God's plan, and it turned me into who I am. And all of you've gone through experiences in your past as

children that are dark. They're not what you desired. And some are going to be in the range in the spectrum. Some are going to be real ugly, and some are going to be not so ugly, but you're going to felt like they were ugly. Either way, you're all going to feel the same. So I just shared with everybody. I said, I'm not asking you to raise your hands. I'm not asking you to but if some of you in the room have had experiences like this, I need you to understand

you can move past this. It is possible, and we have tools here at Wake up Word to help you move past this. Part of the reason why I was so passionate about building what I built was because I was trying to set myself free, because this one event was fucking me up completely. Was I gay? Am I straight? The fuck does this mean my sexuality, with my wife, was constantly in this weird flux, because my mind had blended sex, intimacy and love

as the same conversation. So I couldn't hang out with you, Randall and feel intimate with you, connected in authenticity and feel love for you without my brain saying you want to fuck Randall. I was like, I don't want to fuck Randall. So why? I can't feel this with him, so I'll push you away. You. I kind of push people away. So if intimacy ever showed up, I was like, love, intimacy, sex. I don't want to fuck them. Bye. So I didn't have anybody close to

me. So I was alone all the time, even around 10 1000s of people, I was still alone in my own home. I was alone. My wife would try to be intimate with me, and I thought that meant have sex. I couldn't make the distinction.

And where it really became problematic is when my teenagers were, when my 17 year old first became like 1112 and she started growing breasts, and this whole thing came back up again, which was when I really started taking on healing, work with it, because I was so I had tickled her back from the time she was little, put her to sleep, loved her, hugged her, kissed her on her mouth. Just loved the show. And then she turned 1112 and I was like, this thing turned on.

You're not a fucking pervert, you're not a fucking pedophile. You are not that fucking guy. And so I just pushed my daughter away. And the part that breaks my heart about the whole thing, it's because, like, typical behavior with all girls, if dad doesn't fucking show up, she will go try to find masculine leadership. And then my daughter was raped. Oh God.

Just be stoic, be the man. Don't fucking be emotional. Just let this shit kill you from the inside out. Let everybody else be okay, or you just snap into rage, which is why I was so angry and so violent all the time, because I had this thing in me so but it happens. This thing happens to my daughter, and now I'm like, Okay, I have

to stop this. And that put me deep, psychedelic world, meditation, energy therapy, therapists, healing over and over and over and over again, doing everything I possibly could to try to expose this and heal it, because it's one thing to tell the truth about something, it's another thing to actually resolve it. And I wasn't, I wasn't figuring out how to do that. And the only thing that resolved this for me

was God. There was no therapy, there was no treatment, there was no not enough medicine I could take to get high as fucking kite and try to talk to God, there was a simple surrender, listen, let it go and give it to me. And that happened just over under three years ago. And for the first time in my life, I felt free from the inside out from this thing. And my parents knew, didn't know, but my mom had this sick sense of she i She always hated my uncle. She did. I didn't, she

didn't know. And my brain had blocked out so much of it as a kid, and as I all started coming back, I started seeing everything and fit, which is a typical response from people been abused, when they get little, their brain will block out what occurred, and they'll have no memories until all their memories come flooding back, and the brain breaks and it releases the truth, and the truth will set you free. But the truth and freedom that I was looking for couldn't come from you. It

couldn't come from my wife. It couldn't come with a therapist. It couldn't come from a workshop. All those things need help. There was a place to surrender. I had to just let go and let God take it from me. People hear that and they're like, that's mystical. I was like, motherfucker, you don't understand. I invested millions of dollars to try to fix this, hundreds of hours, and ended up in this place where I had no

more answers. And in that place, I had my encounter with God, my first real encounter, and it was supernatural, and it was transcendent, and for the first time, I fell free, and the world

that I saw completely changed. I saw my wife for the first time, and I suffered because of that, because of how many years I would project my darkness, onto this beautiful woman, my children, seeing my children for who they really were and how many years I couldn't see them because of this veil in my own mind, my inability to see through my own Pain, my pain and our pain becomes nothing more than this window through which we see the world. And all of a

sudden, this window changed. Now I could be I could be injured with you. I could love you and my mind was not thinking sexual thoughts. And I could have intimate relationship with my daughters, all four of them, and not have it be a sexual twisted reality in my brain. I could lead men and love them and hug them and encourage them. Without having these twisted thoughts, I could be with other people, and I had my mind constantly running with these sexual ideas and twisted, dark thoughts in my own

brain. But the process was fucking excruciating, but I was committed to being free,

their friends. She wouldn't tell me who it was. So they were at a party, and the guy raped her, and it just made me so angry. And I said, Well, did she report it? No, why not? Because she's afraid. It's a big deal. There's a police record. She was worried that her name was gonna be in the newspaper. I said, that's just so maddening. She should report it. You gotta encourage her to dad. There's no way. I think anybody who's been sexually abused should report it. I think I know people are

afraid. I know they have fear, but I think Justice should be done. I think anyone who sexually abuses somebody else should go to prison. We all know what happens in prison to people who rape somebody else, and it's punishment well deserved. It's not quite what they deserve, but it's the start of a punishment that I think they deserve.

life. If God placed us here to be free, we were not put here to be slaves. We were not put here to struggle and survive. We were put here to create. Did it mean we're gonna avoid pain? No, we're gonna have pleasure. Yes, but the pursuit was power, power to create. Dominion in this earth. Book of Genesis, God gave man dominion to rule over the earth. The problem is, most of us can't even dominion and dominate ourselves. We have no

dominion over our own lives. And these events that occur for men and women, they're just as traumatic on both sides. And there's so much support for women me too. Movements and all these movements that are built up to try to empower women to tell the truth, what the fuck are they doing for dudes? None. Because to be a man and admit this, you have to be incredibly powerful. No dude wants to admit I had a cock in my mouth and I'm not gay. No dude wants to say

this. They don't want to say my uncle did this, or my or this happened to me, or my sister did this. A number of dudes that I know who were by babysitters and nannies forced to have sex with their nannies. When they're like, 789, 10 years old. They're like, bro and but what does that sound like? Oh, you were forced to have sex, bro. Come on. That doesn't fly a man world. It's like in man code. In the in the world, men are not supported in

having these situations. And typically, when a man comes to that place, he's so broken that to acknowledge it not only shatters the masculine frame, but he gets no fucking support. None. Are you kidding me? Men's Health Awareness Day has now been covered up with LGBTQ. We don't fucking worry about the guys now. Let's worry about everybody else under the sun. We just gotta eliminate the dudes. You're toxic. Shut the fuck up. You don't have any problems yet.

Right now, 70% of the divorces are women leaving men and women are complaining every day to me, there's no powerful men. We are not doing anything to empower them all. There is is empower women, empower women, empower women, empower women. Empower women, empower women. Fuck the dudes. Yet at the same time, all these women are upset because there's no powerful dudes. You're part of the fucking problem. You keep calling these men to fall. You're not calling

them to rise. You're not digging greatness out of these men. You're not trying to pull greatness out, you're trying to suppress it. And then powerful men in business, what do we face with the choice? Well, Stoke, lock up. We have a small little circle that we might tell some of the truth to, and we operate with all these skeletons in the closet. Me, I got none. I'm the most powerful motherfucker. I'll give a fuck about money.

Billionaire or not. I roll up in all the dead bodies have been exposed in my life, and once I realized that the most powerful place I could be was truth.

escape all your issues. It was really easy for me, because nobody knew you were taking it smoking. Everybody knows smoking weed, every nose you're shooting up. Needles, everybody knows. But pills. I was an operator.

Probably gonna feel free sue me, but fuck you guys, whatever, here's reality. I didn't You didn't do anything wrong. I abused. It was a substance. It was just my addictive personality. They had recommended dosage of this, a kava crater mix is fermented. But when taking high enough doses like morphine, they recommend one a day. Of course, my addicted battle personality, I got to 12, my doctors like you're basically morphing all

day. But again, I'm an operator with opioids, which means I can just operate and create, operate and create. My wife came to me two years ago. This is when I kicked that one and she came to me flat out. She said, Listen, we have everything. We have the money, the cars, the houses drip to travel, the jewelry we have, the kids, we have everything for the last year, I can't feel you. I can't feel you so much to the point that for the last six months, my mind has been wandering. I've been thinking

about fucking other men. I've been thinking about being with other powerful men, men who can see me and men I can feel. If you don't fix this shit, I'm out, and I use a statement of Wake of worry, which is, if the king doesn't rise, the Kingdom dies, right? And my wife started texting me every day, if the king doesn't rise, the Kingdom dies. And don't worry, the Queen leaves with the children before it burns. I mean, what the fuck. But I needed it. I needed it. I couldn't hear it any other way.

Most men cannot hear they think their wives are critical bitches. The truth is, these women know the truth of who we are. And when we slip off the pedestal of King and we leave the throne, and we find ourselves out fucking around outside the castle, the Queen stays in the castle and going, Hey, what the fuck are you doing? You're a critical bitch. Don't talk in that way. You're out playing with the whores outside the castle. Again, I have been sitting here carrying this goddamn throne with all

these children. Well, you wander the fuck out there and don't What are you doing? But when you're in that place, you can't get it until it's aggressive. That's why women technically had to leave before dudes get it, and they're like, fuck about to lose everything. I'm a founder waiting for I teach this shit. People like, Well, what did that do for your brand? Nothing. I've never said I was perfect. I'm not a pastor trying to be in a

plastic box. I'm just living and I'm gonna live my life out loud, and you're gonna see all of it. So I was very open about that. But also, for about three months, I thought I was gonna lose everything again. I was gonna leave. She had money. She's powerful. She has her own business. She doesn't need my

money. And that was the piece that started the real breakdown and breakthrough for me in the last two years to just a deeper commitment to my truth in God and really asking myself questions, why do you keep going back to these things, pressure, stress, same reasons every

entrepreneur does. But the problem is, when you're using stuff that you can actually operate with, you think you can operate, but you get dull, not as sharp, not as clean, not as focused, and any truth of God trying to come through you gets distorted. So I'm having this conversation with God and like, Man, I'm doing everything you're telling you. You said, No, you're doing 10% of what I tell you, You Keep Shooting all the partners I'm trying to bring to you, you keep pushing away that

I'm sending to help you. And

full skeletons, and. And all this dark shit that they don't look through with. I'm on the front side. Look good. Shoes. Look good. Wife looks good. Everybody looks good, except for behind closed doors. I know because these do I get these texts every day, this powerful dude, the names of people who come to me that I don't talk about to anybody. I'm a vault. The fares. Guys are in the problems. Guys are in the struggles they're in. They're real. But where's the guy to go? Well,

individually as people. Yes, because people do grow individually, and then they grow apart. And as a result of all this, I think there's a window between sort of 37 and 41 I'm seeing it in with my own friends, my own relationships. I remember when I was getting divorced to my wife, Laura, I went to my rabbi and I said, Hey, this is what's happening. And no one knew that there were any issues behind the scene at all. And every marriage has

issues, and marriages work. But what he said to me, Garrett, was your divorce is going to cause people to get divorced. And I said, why is that? He said, Because you have everything. You know. You have beautiful house, you have money, you get along well, which we did, for the most part, and that's exactly what happened. Most of our friends now divorced within four or five years. I'm not saying we were the cause, but I think it, it. People look at you and say, okay, gosh, you know, I'm not as

happy as I should be. Yeah, my mom has said to me time, you know, we all have a right to be happy, and you only get one go around in life. Yeah, many of my friends are the people I know who are okay in their marriage. Many of my friends in their marriage don't like their wives. Women don't like their husbands. Yep, I think there's a few reasons why people don't get divorced. I think kids, you know, they think, all right, your kids are not going to be

okay. And I think the message there is, when the plane's going down, you have to put on your mask before you can take care of your kids. I think people are afraid to be by themselves. Loneliness, I certainly was. And then the third one is money. You either have too much or too little. And then there's usually

a war the money. And I I didn't have a war with my wife, and I think that's something that a lot of men need to really think about, is there's a lot of emotion when people get divorced, obviously, and people

fight most about the money. And when you fight about the money, and you fight till the end and fight till the death, there's so many scars there that you can't co parent as as you should, what's your advice to everyone out there listening to 10s of 1000s of people who are in these marriages or relationships, particularly marriages, with kids who are unhappy, what would you tell them in A short, bite size, direct way. Should they get divorced, or should they try to work it out?

you're a superhero. So and I'm like, listen, most of the guys that have worked with one on one the last like five years, 60% have gotten divorced, and I've married many of them, and I'm gonna marry a bunch of them this year to these superpower women that they're with now. And I watched the suffering, and I experienced the suffering myself in my marriage for over 12 years, and I know what that feels like. And there's this desire to stay together under a lie. The problem is not that

they're getting divorced. The problem is they're staying married under a lie, which is, I don't really want to be with you. I don't want to be with you. There was a painful, super painful, very painful, for my wife to say in therapy, listen, it's not that I don't want to fuck I just don't want to fuck him.

powerful relationships. That conversation is going to come up where, hey, two people are growing in their own soul path, and we're trying to keep ourselves connected. You. But in that place, what I would say is this, before you get divorced, pretend the following. What are you committed to in marriage? What do you say? What do you want in a partner? Then before you just say, Fuck. You invite them into that picture. Talking to my wife, I said, I want four

things. One, I want to be in a relationship with a woman has a purpose beyond me and our children. And our children. Two, I'll be in a relationship with a woman who we can be authentically all of ourselves, our dark and our light, our full bullshit. You're a bitch, I'm an asshole. We can be that, and we're not running away at the same time. We can be inspiring, this aspirational and all the great things. Three, I want to co create something with this woman, to do something together.

And four, TTF, tell me, touch me. Fuck me. I am not a bad looking man. Tell me I'm the fucking man as a dude. I want to hear that when I work this hard. I want you walking and be like, Hey, thank you. You're amazing. Most women don't do that because if the husband's egos are already too big, I don't want to tell him this yet. The only thing we actually want at the end of the day is the one woman we cared about us. I don't wanna be with this vagina. I wanna be with you. Please just tell me

that I'm doing good. Just tell me. Touch me. Touch me on my leg. When you walk in a room, touch my arm. Sit by me, put your hand on me. I didn't say sexual. Just touch me. And third, fuck me, because way I feel loved, it's when we have sex. If we don't have sex, I don't feel loved. So getting into that dichotomy, what are you committed to? And then don't play it from who she is or who he is, and then invite them into this picture. But your commitment is to go to the picture with or without them.

You're my first choice. You don't want to go that's fine. I'm going to go here. I'm going to have this. I want you to be there with me if you don't want to go there, okay, I'm still going to go there with or without you, but you're my first choice. If you choose not to be my first choice, fair enough, you're a free agent into

yourself. Choose your path. My wife and I, even to this day, every year, we'll sit down and say, Okay, we still in because if I'm not your number one choice, I would be the first one to pack your bags. I'll give you all the money you want, and I like to meet this guy, this motherfuckers got to be a savage. Because if I'm number two, I want to meet number one. I can gracefully take defeat, and I can assess and go, Well, you're better than me. Good job.

Here she is. Vice versa. If she's not my number choice, should have the same thing with me. If I'm not your number one woman, you don't want to be with me. I'm not going to sit around and beg you. Around

enough to sit and take it. And at the end of that, what I will tell you is a principle biblically, which is one flesh, but my wife and I found was something I thought was impossible, impossible, and I don't know if it's possible. It's something that's not possible after divorce. It's just to get there. No matter who you are, you're gonna have to reset. So if you get divorced, you're gonna reset. You're gonna

have to find this path. Anyways, you're gonna go through the same bullshit, just a different person, because you brought the bullshit into the relationship. If you don't fix your bullshit, that bullshit is gonna be with another vagina. If you're a guy, be with another penis if you're a woman. So you better figure yourself out. If you don't figure yourself out, it doesn't

matter. And why not give it a try by aspiring to this thing you desire and invite the person who's been with you there and see because both parties, when they get divorced are all going to go on the divorce diet. They're both going to get fit and tan, and they're going to be caring about themselves, and they're going to present themselves as the world, whereas in marriage, most time, we just wait for the divorce. Then I'm going to be jacked and juicy.

I'm gonna go hang out with a bunch of Latina girls in Miami. I'll be the man, or you could just be the fucking man with the woman you're with now, and you might be surprised that the woman you're with dies and the woman she becomes is this thing you always wanted, and she was right there, but you wouldn't put in the energy with her the same way you would when you get divorced, and now all of a sudden you'd be focused. It's like, dudes are fat. They get

divorced, get jacked. You're like, why don't you get jacked while you were married? Why didn't you guys take care of each other when you were married? Why do you had to get divorced? And divorced and go handle with somebody else? Because you're gonna go through the same bullshit again. She's not gonna be perfect. She's not gonna be everything you think she is. She's gonna have problems. She has a period, she has a month. She gets angry. All

women do, guess what? Dudes who produce also assholes as calm and nice you are to get where you are, you have to be an asshole. There's a part of dark side of business you have to be, which means inside of all of us, which means, ladies, no dudes perfect and no dude can fulfill all your desires. It's impossible. I can't fulfill all my wife's desires. And maybe 85% that means 15% of fantasy is gonna be in her world. She's gonna have fun. Other ways to fulfill that. I can't be.

Everything for her. She can't be everything for me, but this one flesh principle can which is a connection of soul. It's what I actually find beyond sex. Most students think they're after an orgasm. They're actually after the piece of connection, after it, the desire to be wanted, which is why I believe most men are look at porn or go to porn, because they see women who desire this man. It might be all bullshit and fake, but even the idea of it, of being wanted, is the thing that everybody's

missing. Nobody feels seen. They don't feel wanted. Fuck it. I'll go find somebody else who sees me, wants me, and that'll last for a bit, and then it'll fade, just like every relationship, and they have to do work again. One of the

being together. And what comes and when you're getting divorced, and people think you have everything and you're happy, what starts to happen, as you may know, is you start getting these phone calls. They say, Hey Randy, you want to have lunch. And one of my closest friends to this day called me up and said, Hey, Randy, let's have dinner. And he said, I I respect you and admire you for your courage. And I said, What are you talking about? Well, I've been having an affair on my wife

for five years now. He mentioned the woman I knew, the woman, beautiful, of course. And I said, I don't view it as courage. I view it as doing the right thing for myself and who I

am. I think it's fair to her, because if you're not getting along, I think at some age, it's important to allow somebody else to have the opportunity to meet someone else who's better for them, rather than stay in a marriage and say, All right, now I'm 55 years old, and it for better for worse, I'm not being chauvinistic about this, but I think it's easier, and maybe the playing field is larger for a man who's 60 years old getting divorced, and maybe for a woman, my mom was single at 70 years

old in Detroit, you know, the the talent pool there is slim. You know, she's going on match.com which I encourage her to go on initially, like Randy. She finally found her an amazing life, life partner. And what's interesting in those lunches? I said, Hey, you know, man, you okay? What do you mean? And said, Is your marriage okay? Oh yeah, yeah. You know, marriage is great. Well, you know it's interesting. I haven't heard from you two two years, and here

we are sitting have lunch. And yeah, what's great about this? If you have friends that are getting divorced and it's very lonely, it's depressing, even though it may be the right thing for you, it's just tough sitting there in your house by yourself when you got kids and you want it when you're in the marriage, not that you what you want is when you got three kids, a living nanny, a dog, everyone's in the house. It's rare that

there's no one in the house. I remember when I was married to my my first wife, I think I had one hour where everyone was gone. I said, Gosh, this is so nice. And then when it was forced upon you, and you're in this house half the time, big house, your dream house by yourself, it it really suck, but I think it's really important for your friends to reach out to

you. I know that in some situations, I was toxic because none of my married friends wives wanted to have dinner with me and a new girl or a girl that I was dating. Doug, am off. I just want to mention this to you, married to Vice President of the United States. We've been friends since we were 24 years old, first year lawyers in Los Angeles, and he had been divorced before, and he reached out to me and he said, and I've known Doug at that point for a

long time. I got married when I got divorced when I was 38 Doug and I met when we're 24 new to LA. He had volunteered on this non profit, uh, charity function that I started, called the Justice ball. Is basically for free non profit law firm. And I, I'll never forget Doug reaching out to me, an amazing person, and all the other people who reach out to me, and there weren't that many. So my advices to people, and it's not just for divorce, but be there for your

friends. Your friends are going to go through hard times, and they're going through things that you're even think you're going to maybe going through one day or hope that they don't happen to you. This

alone. I've watched, I've watched many of my guys, hundreds of my guys, get divorced over the years, and that factor is accurate. They all go on a bender for about six months, and then they end up in

this lonely place. And on the speaking of it too, there's a lonelier place, and it's called being in a relationship that doesn't work and you suffer and you struggle and you desire, or you have side chicks, and you do the side thing, while you're trying to pretend it's together, get everything along this you're just lying to yourself. And this piece of truth, the truth comes with pain, and sometimes that means you're gonna feel alone for a season, and inside of that, yes, a lot of divorced

people, too. Marry people become cancerous because of how weak their marriages are and

with my life. I love you, and at the same time, this doesn't work for me. I cannot do this anymore. I cannot continue to lie to myself. I'm going to move on. And in that place, it rattles relationships, because nobody, everybody talks about

divorce rate. Nobody talks about the depressed rate of all the married couples who fucking hate each other and they're not happy and they're surviving and all those people from my parents generation, my parents have been divorced, my in laws should have been divorced, but they came from a time where divorce wasn't even on the table. I mean, it wasn't even an option. So like my mother and my mother in law, both are despised at some level.

They're their husbands, and they're verbal about it, because they're powerful women that were men just they weren't. These men did the best they could, but they weren't what these women wanted. Truly, I watched the separations. I've watched it happen, but nobody talks about that piece. What percentage of marriage are actually happy? I don't know. I don't know how you would like statistically light up. I know this, there are more happy second marriages than there are first marriages,

Madison. We met a few years before, and she was living in New York, and it's kind of a crazy story. She she had her best friend named Maddie. My wife is Madison, and Maddie and I were friends, and I wanted, you know, date Maddie and we went on a date, and she says it wasn't a date, but Madison wasn't talent working, and he came to dinner at the last minute. I'm like, Oh, shit. You know, this is not good. And then we went to dinner, and then we went back to my house to play

the Wii video game. We're playing tennis and all this other stuff, and driving the car and and this is, you know, 10 o'clock at night, and we played the drums, which is in the bedroom, but we had fun. These two beautiful women sitting on the edge of my bed till two in the morning while I'm playing the drums. And I'm like, you know, I tell the story. Well, did anything kinky happen when you got these two beautiful women in your bedroom? Right? I said, No, no, but we exchanged

phone numbers on Facebook. I asked him, posted something on Facebook going to Hawaii with my boyfriend for two weeks. I can't wait, so I text her this engagement trip, and she wrote back hardly, and so I'd been to the place where they had been a few times before, and I texted her four days into the trip, Hey, how's the trip growing? And said, we broke up now I barely knew her, right? And when I said, Well, what I said to her is, when she said hardly, I said, You shouldn't settle. You

know you're great. And she'll tell the story. Now, you know, who the fuck were you to say that you don't even know me, but what I have and which nobody else knew. And this is true in business. You know you have an opportunity. You know you're a business guy. You got to seize the moment in my moment in the way that I my brain works, is do it now, because you can miss it by a millisecond. So I had material, non public inside information. If you trade on that in the stock market, you're

going to jail, buddy. But if you trade on that in your personal life, you could have the best possible life in the world, and that's what happened to me, because no one knew she'd broken up with her boyfriend. So I said, Oh, I. Want to come take it to dinner. Said, Oh no, I'm living with my boyfriend. I got to get out with my wife. And she said, Maybe this summer, my sister's getting married. In the fall, I'll be in Los Angeles. I don't believe in maybes. Maybes

are not a good thing. As a businessman, successful businessman, you got to hit it right now. And like I said, you can miss it by a millisecond so she was having none of that. My stepdad, at that point, was sick with cancer, and he was supposed to come out to Los Angeles, I think my, one of my kids was graduating from maybe kindergarten or something like that, and get canceled a whole bunch of times he was sick. And my kids would very much get unhappy and say, Oh, he can't

say, well, he's sick. You know, Grandma bunny is what, is what they call my mom. You know, can't, can't come out, because Papa Bear, that was what they call my father. My stepfather was sick. I remember being at the Shell gas station. Said I can't come this weekend. I'm so sorry. Hang up the phone call Mattis, and said, I'm going to come to New York this weekend for the freeze Art Fair. And I collect art. I love art. It's a

passion. I know plans Garrett going to New York, but suddenly, you know, 10 minutes later, I booked a trip and said, I like to take you to dinner. And it was great. You know, Madison had just broken up with her boyfriend. Yeah, I went there. We had dinner both nights, and I said to her, when I, when I when I laughed. I mean, I felt like

we had a great connection. I don't care what you're doing in New York, which is a total fucking bullshit lie, by the way, but I want you to know that when I go back to LA I'm not gonna date anyone else. I think there's a future here, but you could date whoever you want to do. And I'm like, God, please don't date anybody that would just torture on my soul. And we got engaged three months later, because I knew what I wanted. She was the most amazing person

in the world. She was smart, graduated Business School, graduated college in three years, 24 AP credits, I think coming in, self supportive. Had four jobs New York when I when I met her, loves football. I'm a huge football fan. Go lions. I hope this is the year the best ever suffer as long suffering lions fan. And you know, here we are, 11 and a half years later.

So the message that I want to send to everybody, as much as I talked about, yeah, you shouldn't be in a marriage if you're unhappy, is it allows you the opportunity to have a second life. And I think having been divorced the first time and again, I don't recommend people get divorced unless they they really need to. And if you're not going to fix your problems, why fake it? Why do it? But if you are going to get divorced and it's right for you, there can be and is an amazing Second

Life. I have two beautiful kids with with my wife, and people will look at me now and say, All right, maybe Randy is was the inspiration of me getting divorced, and maybe he is today, but for a better reason, yeah, which is, look at what he has today, and I feel like I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I'm happy for you. Your story of redemption in terms of what you went through, sexual abuse, difficulties in marriage, affairs. You also built a very

successful business. I want to talk about your business career. I want to talk about the ups and downs. You build three very successful mortgage companies. You had personal issues, drug issues, and then the great financial crisis of 2008 where a lot of people lost their businesses. You tell us just about your entrepreneurial instinct in terms of the rise

and fall of your businesses. And what are the three lessons that you would give somebody else starting a business going into something in the future, and what are the three best things you learned from those businesses failing, the

gave me the advice. I was young. I was in my 30s. I thought this thing would just go forever. I was PE teacher and became a mortgage guy and a real estate guy, and didn't know anything else. I'd never known loss. So I got to learn loss. So the first one was, listen to your mentors. People have gone before you. They know the path. They've seen the trends. They know what's

going on. Just because you've had success doesn't mean you're going to always have success, and the one of the fast ways to not have it is not listen to people have gone before you. So number one, number two, we had lived in a game of deception and banking, not intentionally. I didn't understand entrepreneurs as a whole. I was a I was really a high paid hit man. Am I? I had a crew of 100 high paid hit men, and we worked for big banks, and we went and sold shit. We didn't

know anything. We just were hitmen. We sold I wasn't really an entrepreneur at that time. We had larger companies, we had success, we had money. But that didn't mean I was an entrepreneur. So the second. To determine is that not everyone's an entrepreneur. Some of the greatest success people have is working for pure entrepreneurs. And while there's this massive message of everyone's an entrepreneur, the truth is

that's not true. The spirit of entrepreneurism is in everyone the spirit to create and go but most people cannot bear the burden the weight of being a founder and a CEO of a company. To be a true CEO, to be a true entrepreneur, you have to be crazy. You have to have the capacity to create from nothing. You have to believe at a level that most will never believe. You have to suffer at a level most will never suffer. You have to hurt in ways no one can imagine and it never turns off.

Most people will make more money with the spirit of entrepreneurs and being entrepreneurs behind crazy people and helping build support and infrastructure with the entrepreneurial spirit. So this was something I was never taught, so I didn't know any

different. I should. We all had to be entrepreneurs, so I had to learn all of these skills over the last 25 years, pushing myself the place I probably would have never gone had I had a pure mentor entrepreneur who I could just tuck under the wing and go and I probably would have made more money because I could do the things that I was uniquely great at. I didn't necessarily want to have all these skills. It wasn't my

desire. I just had to get them because the only way to run the business was to have these skills. So the second piece, the third piece was, everything comes back to truth. So if you're not listening to your mentors, and you're actually not committed to the entrepreneurial journey of suffering, the success is follow suffering at the highest level. There's not one guy I've met that's built anything of success that does

not have a dark trail. There's a darkness that comes with this stewardship, and that darkness is not worshiping money and it's not hurting people. There's just a heaviness and a weight that perpetually pushes it will affect your marriage, your children and every and if you can get through it, and you know, it's why warrior exists. We use tools. Now I didn't have available to me to be able to stabilize who I am as a man to

lead. So we have more entrepreneurs brising In our organization than ever because of these tools, because of the things we do every day as men to keep ourselves in check. But the foundation of all this is truth. And if you, if you can't tell the truth to yourself, and you can't tell the truth to your teams, and the truth to your teams can't tell the truth to you. Now, number one, you're not getting the right data, you're not getting the right optics. You're not making the right

decisions. Everything's based upon a gut feeling, which at some level has to happen, but at some level, things have to be backed up with numbers and math and science. You have to back things up. You have to live in truth. At the same time, live in this place of vision that you're moving towards, but without truth, there's no vision, because now it's fantasy. The vision becomes fantasy with no foundation of truth. So in that truth, now it can choose something different and wake up.

Warrior became the birth child of not just helping entrepreneurs rise. It was helping entrepreneurs rise with everything, with them.

Because every mentor I'd ever had in my entire life was on one side to scale the other, big money and life wreck falling apart, or on the flip side, had become very zen, and kind of said, Eh, to the money. And I was like, can you be Zen and be wealthy? Can you do it all at once? We figured out how. It's not even a guesswork for us anymore. It's a science, and men that submit into the games that we play. We teach them how to play the Warriors way. It's a

game we play every day. It's an ideology, it's an operating system, and it works for every single man that we've ever worked with who chooses to work the system, and when they work the system, they win

other. Our application question was, if you were coming into war, he was, have you ever punched a man in the face? Have you ever been punched by a man in the face? We knew you were gonna get punched. And you're gonna punch somebody because you were coming to our camp, which means you were gonna fight. So we had 50 year old dudes who never punched anyone, beating the shit out of each other, and

they fucking loved it. Founders of companies, CFOs, who'd never hit anyone, the craziest dudes were the dudes who'd never fought anybody.

forward. Now, over time, it became less necessary for two reasons. One, our dudes got older, so when we launched it 13 years ago, we were younger, and a dude sent a cum laude. My age. I'm 48 almost 49 and dudes at 52 their bodies are great, but the but when our big, impossible games for the year with a lot of our guys are I'm gonna get a colonoscopy this year. We've, we've, we've come to, yeah, that's colonoscopy. Let's fucking go. We're not 30 anymore. So we had to move away

from a lot of that. One because it just a physical game. Was too many injuries. And the second piece was it wasn't necessary. Now, guys come to the door and there's so much pain. The truth is, a conversation works. And so we went away from that, although a lot of groups have launched following our lead, and still run those, and those are very useful for most of our guys. Are very established dudes. They're deep thinkers. Are very logical, and they're trapped emotionally

inside. So we come in our world, we have different tools now. They're actually more effective, more efficient. So a lot of people think in order to participate in Warrior I have to go get my ass kicked. No, no, you don't have to get physically beat up. We're going to train your body, but we're going to put you in a place with tools we have now that allow you to spiritually set yourself free. And that's the shits we were

going from the outside in. Now we know how to go from the inside out, and in less than a couple weeks, I can do what used to take us two or three years with a guy, and this guy will be living in truth and power in a way he wasn't living before. And

how you feel about life, hey. So tell us your backstory, about your business. No, you were like when you were a kid. What about this? What about this? How about that person? What about that girl, Sally, that you hung out with in sixth grade? And how

about this move over here? And then, when you took this, the question and sequence that you've done is the most unique thing I've ever seen a podcast interview ever do, like only person who probably prepares as much as you, as Joe Rogan, because he tends to know fucking everything about everybody, too. You, on other hand, most shows are free flow, go, go, go, and we kind of talking, so people kind of get some insight from it, your questioning and your

ability to study and prepare. I mean, you, you set this up with me and somehow stay up till three o'clock in the morning, studying for seven eight hours my life. So you could come in with questions to ask. I may have fucked all those up, but nonetheless, we were here, and you were did it, and I could tell when you walked in, and I could tell from all the other shows you do your unique talent in this is the fact that you're committed to that, which is exactly why you've had success

in business. Because you don't want to come to the table and just deliver up fluff and deliver up another podcast. It's a strategic move to show people how they can get value by you asking the right questions to get the gold out of people you're interviewing. I'm impressed. I was impressed, like before I got here. Just listen to the show. Because a guy who studies people who do things like this, you were different.

You were in a very different I now understand why everybody wants to be on your show, because they're as excited about the questions you're going to ask because they're getting asked the questions that no one asks them in a normal podcast. My preparation is a little bit different, right? So you have people prepared decks and slides and all that's very important. I don't disagree with this. My preparation is frameworks. So I love flow, so I can do things naturally in flow that a lot of

people cannot. For example, I'm in events where the power goes down and people can't show their PowerPoints and the speaker and trainer is fucked, not me. So I got used to vibe boards, which is now what I use. Vibe boards, iPads, flip charts. So I have frameworks inside, so I prepare for 1520, hours frameworks.

Frameworks are concepts or ideas that I want to use, but they're interchangeable, unlike a script or a PowerPoint deck, that's like a, b, c, d, I have all the letters of the alphabet available to me, and then I enter the most important preparation for me, which is energetic and spiritual connection. Am I grounded? Because in that place now I can move a room or a negotiation. I can move a negotiation. And swap frames out real time instead of being caught to a script. So for

me, scripts don't work. What does work is preparation, but my preparation is different. So at a big event, some dudes will spend 40 hours on their PowerPoint slide in order to do their pitch me, I'll spend 10 hours building frames, and then I'll spend another 20 hours meditating, grounding, doing my work, keeping me connected. I'll sit in the rooms or go prepare by being in people's energy. And then I unleash with no script.

And now my frameworks just pop. I pull them like from a server in the back of my brain, and I'll start a framework over here, and then I'll see we need to shift. I'll pause that one come over here, pull this framework out. Then I'll come and pull one out over here, and then I'll mix them together and go. Frameworks are what scripts are. They're just less instead of, like, four paragraphs, I have four statements. These four statements typically follow alliteration, and they move

people from here to there. And those frameworks work for me. But it doesn't mean I don't prepare as you prepare differently than most people.

I think it's amazing. What you've done to encourage people that have been sexually abused and being a real person and showing vulnerability, which for a man, is very difficult. For most men I know, to do we're taught not to do that, and just the lessons you've learned from the rise and fall of your business, and especially what you've done to rebuild this incredible coaching program and inspiring, motivating 10s of 1000s of people around the world. I really congratulate

you. I admire you, and I'm excited to hang with you again. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you having me. Great show. Thank you, and again, shout out to Andrew loringer, we put this thing together in 24 hours. I was coming down in Miami. I did a show with Tony Robbins. I said, Hey, you got the studio. I'll come anytime it could be one in the morning. Whatever he said, I got this great guy. Garrett white, he's amazing.

You're gonna love him. So shout out to Andrew for making this happen all the all the intros that he's made incredible. Andy Elliott's coming on the show. Thanks to my man right here. Andrew, so grateful if you're coming to Miami shoot at the move best studio around Amen.