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Hard because I'm a lady who likes to be Where do I I don't even know? Episode under the banner of In My Box, I have Shad Wicker, good mate and comedian with me once again. We're back, baby. Absolute pleasure to be here, Carly, for the new podcast. We had a little like mini app to just kind of explain where you've been, what's been happening. Uh now we're in the full swing. Uh for those of the first time coming in here seeing what this podcast is all about.

We're talking about your life as a sex worker in the industry. Uh and if people don't know, um, give them a little bit of briefing. You are you work as a sex worker in OnlyFans? Also a lady of the mid afternoon as we've learned. Yes. Escort. Yeah. So if your partner's going off for meetings at three o'clock in the afternoon. Maybe check those names. Yeah. If your husband doesn't want to do school pickup'cause he's busy. Oh, is that one? Do you get someone that does that sometimes? Yeah.

Yeah, wait, wait, hold on. We've we've covered we've covered this. We have covered this. Um we're actually going to be releasing all of our old episodes because we have quite a few. We've got two seasons worth of podcasts up our sleeves. So We're going to be releasing them just every so often, just for a little catch-up, if you've not heard us before, or if you want to revisit all the hilarity and chaos.

That is what we've recorded so far. Yeah, from the previous pod which was Girlfriend for High. But in my box, Carly, it is you sharing some stories and insight into the world of uh sex work, but also Each week opening up your inbox. For what are some of the most cooked interactions I think I've ever seen? You hear from your female mates especially about some of the crazy things that they get in their DMs. But wow way, yours, there needs to be people on registered Lisa.

I know, it's insane. Crazy. But I I also invite it to. Like I really, you know, Don't want a victim blame, but yeah. There are people that I know who don't even check their spam folders. There are people that I know who don't even, you know, won't open messages from people that they don't know. I am so quick every day I check my spam folder, just waiting. Like I actually get disappointed if there's nothing in there.

Things aren't going well. But um kick it off pod this week, uh if you have seen in the title, we're talking OnlyFans. Bit of news in the OnlyFans space, Carly. Yeah, we're gonna be talking a few things, OnlyFans. Be before we get into there though, uh another interesting part of your world. You were at uh earlier this year at the I get this wrong every time. A A A I A. Yes. A I A I A. What's the sample for? Australian Adult Industry Awards. Ah yeah, uh got to attend my second year in a row.

Come on now, you gotta dress it up. It's it's the sex work of Narth. It is. It is like the logies. Yeah. Look, it's our one time in the year where I get to frock up. I get to put on a gown. What? Okay, no, I frock up all the time. Yeah, I know. No, I do frock up all the time. But like in a gown, you know, it's a black tie event. So it's it's very swish. A lot of people put in a lot of effort.

It's interesting to see the trends in gowns. So do the do the sex work so I think it's like, you know, it's not like sex bow where all the sex workers are just dressed in like Extremely revealing, crazy worky clothes. This was actually Disney princess. Yes. We get to gown up and all the men get to three piece suit up. And it's real everybody looks stunning. Everybody just looks absolutely beautiful.

Uh, I did what I do best and I didn't have a dress, couldn't find one, I flew into Melbourne, the awards were at what I thought was seven PM, flew into Melbourne at four PM I went straight from the airport to address higher place and just tried on the first dress that I saw. It f it fit. It did up and I was like, perfect. Let's go straight back into an Uber.

To the hotel to quickly get ready, only to realise that the awards start at six and not seven. I was fashionably late. I got there at seven. I could not get f any faster getting ready. Like it was so hard. It was so hard to do it. You were nominated for awards. Would you have missed your award?

I was scared that I was if they'd called uh luckily they had, you know, they had um mate Dave Q's on again hosting the awards. So he did a bit of a skit. Um it was actually it was actually quite good. He talked about the first time he um Uh well when he lost his virginity it was a g it was a good time. Anyway. How Husie lost his virginity. Yeah, it was Hughesy lose his virginity. I don't

It I feel weird talking about it. I feel we It was a bit. It was not a bit. I guess he said it in front of a room full of people. So am I allowed to say it? Yeah, what what was that? Just give me the bridge version. Well, he went to a brothel. Dee Dee! Yeah! That's pretty funny. I know. I know. So here we are in our gowns. A room of uh sex workers and Kusy's talking about

Going to a brothel to lose his virginity. Wouldn't it be crazy if you said that and then just this like lady out the bag goes, Gay I remember you He was funny back then, I remember. Yeah. But do you know what? So I had actually for the week beforehand, because I only knew that I was going to the war awards a few days prior.

At that time I was still in a wheelchair. I was not walking. So I was like, I am not going to these awards in a wheelchair. I'm not gonna fit a gown in a wheelchair and then I don't I don't So I practiced walking. I got myself up, got myself walking. So I was on crutches in a moon boot. Right. And a sneaker on the other foot. And in my gown and went to the awards, I was so um wobbly on my crutches, and so I did actually win an award. Uh I won best

Entrepreneur of twenty twenty five. Okay. Um We're at the Adult Industry Award. Yes. And there's an entrepreneur award. Yes.

Well, I guess I'm not sure. Like I think entrepreneur it's the guys that are like on Instagram being like, Hey, do you wanna like become an Etsy store? Crypto bro. Clip sign up to my course it's like I've helped a hundred thousand people, like that kind of shit. Uh no, it's because essentially Um unless you work in a brothel or you're a stripper, everybody else is all escorts. We are small business owners. We are very um business minded and we take our businesses very seriously. So

Um I But are you entrepreneurs? Like if you got these multiple businesses? I guess you are. You got all you got horses and stuff. Thank you. This is why I won the award. So that's probably why you won the award because everyone else is just in the air. They're like Carly's moved out of it. I won the award last Last year too. Look, I'm I'm not gonna lie, by the time my award was called, it was the

Towards the end of the night, and I had had there were just three bottles of wine in the middle of the table and champagne. And at one stage I was Amy Winehands and I just had, you know, two going at once. You were shit face. Oh, so by the time I

By the time they called out my name, I was adamant that I wasn't winning an award because it was towards the end of the night and I was like, Oh, drinking time. And so I had to Manage the dress with crutches, get all the way up to the stage, get up the stage, stairs in my crutches. I got through that speech. Like I got through it. I wasn't prepared for what came next. About ten minutes later, I won the same award, but the director's choice award. So that first award was um, you know, voted

by my peers and also the general public. Thank you to everybody who voted for me. Okay. Um and so they voted for that award. I didn't actually know that there was another award for the same thing, but it was picked by the director of the AAIA. Maxine. Shout out Maxine. Thank you. Uh and so I wasn't prepared that I was going to have to give another speech.

Surely not. Surely you go, Oh man, thank you so much. Again, same as what I said before. Great. Thanks. Bye. Um no, I was so um shocked and put on the spot that my brain went into overdrive and I started mumbling w I was asking people what the award was on well on my And I'm like, I don't understand. Um, thank you. I don't wait. I just wanna thank everybody for voting for me. Oh wait, no, this is

Directors to the first time. Oh, sorry. Okay, well thank you AIA for the award and oh Who won best blow job this year? 'Cause that is an award for those that don't know. There's an award for best boy job. And uh uh Kay Manuel? won the award second year in a row and it's the second year in a row that um Husie has bestowed the award upon her. It's great. K Manuel. I'm trying to find this person.

We've got yeah, we have spoken about Kay. Kay was one of the original uh one of the original OG uh schoolies. Really? Yes. Right. Schoolies girls. So as voted by the schoolies public. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. There you go. I mean, what a proud what a great achievement. Yeah. So your son might have voted for her. There you go. Well, congratulations on your two um Thank you awards, mate. But another clout congratulations in order as well because um you We're on a list in the courier mail.

Uh this past month. Yes. This was a surprise. I mean, I feel like um About a year ago when we recorded and we went through the top one hundred OnlyFans list for the top fifty list. And I didn't get a mention in it. And we did the numbers and I should have been in that list and I was kinda like Oh, why am I not in that list? Rude. But also, it's fine. I didn't know anybody was compiling it. It d don't you find it funny that like the courier mail Yes. Like

M A L E. A reputable media company. Like it's a newspaper. It is the newspaper of Queensland. They often feature me, so thank you for an email. Then be like, What are we putting out this week? Well let's have a look at like the the top one hundred OnlyFans model. Like. I know. Um it's actually just been done Australia wide and obviously it gets so many clicks.

And this is why they run it every year. Like they're just going with what gets clicks and in this twenty four hour news cycle they've got to do that. So you were on the list here, but you've got you've got a little bit of an issue with your appearance on this list. Yeah. And So For a really weird time f this kind of came out um just as I'd had foot surgery. And so I'm like so conscious of the money and and my income because I'd been off work for a couple of months and

you know, things were getting pretty dire and I was relying on OnlyFans to survive. Um There's something about Aussie blokes that when they see somebody who is successful or doing well, um, they kind of go off them a little bit. It's the tall poppy syndrome of Australia. Yeah, yeah. So I started copying like when I published that I was in this list, um, just on

X or Twitter for everybody playing at home. When I published it, I got inbox messages from guys being like, What the hell? You're making millions of dollars per month off. Men like it said you had a hundred and sixty thousand followers. All it says is polyelectric followers. A hundred and eighty thousand. But it's an OnlyFans list. It didn't say anything about Instagram. So guys just took that as I have a hundred and eighty thousand followers on Uh or subs on OnlyFans

Holy shit if I had You wouldn't be doing this bloody podcast at all. I would be on a fucking yacht in the Mediterranean right now. Like I would not be here. No offense. And so Okay, last week I pitched up a he picked up a hitchhiker. And just happened to go to like a boat show here in Brisbane and sat on a boat and people were like, Holy shit, you own this like six million dollar boat. People were thinking, writing to me, being like, Holy shit, you own this.

boat. Like and it's from your OnlyFans Money. Okay, there are people out there who think that I'm making millions of dollars. Per month? Yeah, I'm gonna have to up the fee for doing this podcast. This is wild to me. And I think it's actually um it's actually hope my income a little bit, I think. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Because people have like wine back. Because people yeah, because guys, um, I'm gonna sound like a douchebag. Yeah.

Good. But often when um well say when somebody's going through something, like somebody like me, um, if I write online that I'm going through something, I've not able to pay rent for whatever reason, or I've been out of work for three months because I'm injured and I'm in a wheelchair. Guys will often reach out and say Uhhuh. I consume your content. I enjoy you as a person. You know, you get me through every day.

I'm gonna gift you five hundred bucks. And o like honestly, those things help, especially not having an income for, you know, two and a half months. Like, um, and just relying on OnlyFans. Um Yeah, I kind of rely on that and I was waiting for I kind of was like, Okay, well, hopefully some people can like help me But now they're like How's this multimillionaire hitting us up? Yes. And then I got hit with uh lots of messages about how I'm a multimillionaire. And I'm like, oh sh

Oh shit. This has come at the wrong time. Wrong time. Oh, well, just to clarify for anybody who's listening, Carly does not have a hundred and sixty thousand subscribers on OnlyFans. That would put you up so crazy high on the list of OnlyFans creators. Look, who compiles this list? Like who I'll tell you what, a very happy intern. Whose job is it? I reckon there was a teenage intern

At at uh in the office. And they're like, We've got an article for you, buddy. And he's like, Yes, dude. Yes. Yeah. We need you to research OnlyFans. Yeah. Claim that on tax, brother.

Yes. What a job. Uh well, sticking with OnlyFans. Let's Let's uh talk about some of the things that are in the news when it comes to OF creating right now.'Cause it's been in the news the last month a lot. Yeah. Bit of stuff going on in the OS space. Yes. Did you hear about that? Are you gonna buy it? I mean Maybe I can with my millions. Do you know how much OnlyFans is worth? Like eight hundred million? Eight billion dollars is the reported um

deal for it. It's so much money. Like an obscene amount of money. Like I I can't wrap my head around it. Like it's it's insane. How much do they take out of your fee? Twenty percent. Yeah. Look, that's that's quite a lot when you think about it and how many Do you get approach people? Do you ever get approached by another platform to be like, Why don't you move your stuff over to us? Yeah. Are there other offers? Like Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So like OF's the standard. OF is the standard and has majority, you know, it's got the monopoly, um, for sure. There are others like Fansley and a few others out there, but I mean they're nut If you get booted off Only fans uh you end up on Fansly because it's pretty much the other site to be on. Um, nowhere near the same amount of usage, no um m nowhere near the same amount of um men signing up to Fansly.

Men will sign up to Fansley just to follow the person there. So, um, Bonnie Blue recently was uh kicked off OnlyFans finally. Yeah. So she got turfed just like a few weeks ago. Yeah. Apparently because of her petting zoo challenge. What's that? Yeah, the petting zoo challenge was where she was going to put herself And you could pretty much do whatever you wanted to her and the general public could just come. and view her in the glass box, but then also do whatever they they wanted to her.

Um, and so yeah, she got kicked off off OnlyFans for that. I can imagine the talks that OnlyFans have or the meetings that they've been having because they're so anti solicitation, right? And so they initially set up how they set up OnlyFans, you know, you had to sign waivers and um it used to be that anybody appearing in a video, so porn stars appearing in a video, all had to sign a waiver.

and they had to have an OnlyFans. So for a while there, um, you could upload a video of you and somebody else going for it. And that other person that was in the video had to have an OnlyFans as well. You know, you were creators. You were porn stars. You were or amateur porn stars. Whatever. And so then what happened was they kind of got rid of that and they started, that's where

a lot of creators just started having sex with, Hey, come to this place and we'll have a gang bang and we'll film it and we'll put it on my OnlyFans. Yeah. Um I can imagine the meetings that OnlyFans have been having to try and work out because it's essentially solicitation without payment. Does that make sense? I guess it's not solicitation'cause there is no money changing hands, a loophole. Yeah.

Exactly. But they're but they're making money. They're making money. Yeah. So it's like I they're not paying me to have sex with me, so it's not solicitation. But I am using them. as a free actor. It's almost slave labor. When you think about it. Correct. When you think about it, slave labor making'em work. And so I think now the lines have been so blurred that Yeah, I I know that they got her on, you know, the fine print, but I'm not entirely sure. Only she would know I think what

they got her for but Well I've got a statement. Okay. So this is the statement from OnlyFans. They said extreme challenge content is not available on OnlyFans and is not permitted under the acceptable use policy in terms of service. Any breach of our terms of service results in content or account deactivation. This is why it has been necessary to take this action. We always act when users breach our terms of service. Okay. So what Extreme what is it? Challenge content. So I guess

challenge. But see they've done heaps of them in the past. Like I'm gonna do a thousand guys, I'm gonna do five hundred guys. Is it is it a case of like now it's too noisy? I feel like they've updated their terms of service and they've put this extreme challenge thing in because that didn't exist before.

The Bonnie Blue phenomenon I feel, and this is my view, is lame like I find it lame and pathetic. There. I said it. I said it. You don't you have your view. I just think it's just like You can't p have the veil. of, you know, there's a lot of people, especially after meeting you and hanging out with you, that have like this is a job, legitimacy to this job, brah rah. You can't throw that veil over what those people are doing. No. Like it's just turning it into an extreme sport.

Marketing and PR backed by sex work. Yeah. It's not the other way around. And look, I mean, it's work. Um Bonnie Blue uh n makes eight million or was making eight million a year on OnlyFans. Oh my gosh. You know? OnlyFans Yeah. So now she's gone over to Fans Lee. There are definitely look

Men are really interesting creatures. Um, sometimes if you need them to go and sign up to a whole new platform, even though they're on OnlyFans and they've probably been on there a while and they follow a few women on there. It's hard to make men. They've gotta really, really love your content rather than just being a looky loo. If I was Fansley, I would be fucking stoked. Mm-hmm. That the biggest OnlyFans creator in the whole world was coming

to my website. Yeah, you'd be putting billboards up. You would be letting her do whatever the fuck she wants. Like They would let her there's no what extreme what You do the you know the college when uh when a a College players choosing his team and they got the different hats.

And he's like, which one am I gonna go? I'd do that. If I was fansly, I'd do that as a marketing thing. They wouldn't. But I'd bonnie the OF hats there, the like fansly hats there, some other one she goes and grab the OF one, throws it away.

Chucks a fansly one on. I'm signing I'm signing with fansley. Yeah, they would be seriously looking after her. Like seriously looking after her. God damn. What's your view on like the things that are restricted in there and what you guys can get in trouble for? Because

You've like floated the line of almost getting your OnlyFans like suspended or whatever for breaching rules. Yeah, yeah. I used to do Win a Date with Carly. And so Even that is not allowed on OnlyFans. I had to really be careful with the wording because essentially the prize is a one on one with me and that is completely again

um OnlyFans terms and conditions. So I did do um Win a Date with Kali competitions. I ran a couple of them. They were really successful. I had fun doing it. So essentially what it was is guys would purchase a ten dollar ticket. to go into the draw to win a one hour GFE with me. And, you know, I'm seven hundred dollars for girlfriend for the hour and um for a lot of झाल से सब a lot of money. Like they can't afford to

to spend that and would never even dream of doing that. So, you know, ten dollars a ticket, guys were like, fuck yeah Yeah. Gotta be in it to win it. And they to and the OnlyFans turned around and said, You can't do that because that is essentially solicitation. Yeah. OnlyFans were like, You cannot, um, yeah, I lo nearly lost my page.

Because of it. It is such a funny you talk about the OnlyFans people having a meeting talking about the Bonnie Blue situation. It would be so funny to be a fly on the wall in a meeting where they're like Okay, guys. Imagine how desensitized they are. Um well Bonnie Blue's had sex with four hundred people, so we've got to just cover on that. And uh blowjobs. What are we viewing? Uh all my squirting videos got taken down. Squirting, no squirting.

Not allowed to no squirt so no female bodily fluids. Men, okay. Still all right with pissing from men? Fantastic. You do you guys do know that squirting is to sexually piss. Yeah, but the bloke's doing it. Okay, cool. We'll be okay with that. I just love the idea that that's their agenda. What are we flagging for twenty twenty six? Hmm. Well, I think that we might have to start getting rid of incest port and one guy going, No, I think we should use more like just

The discussion in that meeting would be so crazy. Well, I mean that kind of um goes into what I wanted to bring up next with what was going on in the UK with them banning um strangulation porn. I saw this. I'm pretty certain. I'm not too sure because I don't do boy girl content on OnlyFans, but I'm pretty certain on OnlyFans you're not allowed to upload uh videos of choking or anything like that anymore. Like it y it used to

Um OnlyFans used to be able to um put up quite a bit of BDSM and they've pulled it right back. And so it's all quite. vanilla now what you can what you can put up. But uh yeah, so in the UK you cannot find on Pornhub or any of the porn sites in the UK no strangulation Like this is uh comes from the independent porn review, which again, hilarious idea of like this many suits. Yeah, men in suits. Yeah.

Okay guys, the independent porn review is here. Have you guys done all your homework? Just a bunch of guys like Look, I'm really on the fence with this one. I'm finding it uh I'm cool with it too. I'm a massive I I the violence against women nowadays I think is just It's increasing, it's alarming, it's shocking, and it's scary as fuck. Like it's scary being a woman, especially when you enter into a new relationship. You're like

I hope I'm making the right choice. I hope this person is going to look after me and not harm me or kill me or do anything fucked up to me. Like and I find myself when I go into a relationship, I really like

Without sounding creepy, I try and do my background checks. Like I try and be like, okay, is this really a good person and you know, they've actually got my best interests at heart and and are gonna look at look after me because I hear stories, women are dying constantly, and I think that less we normalize choking somebody or choking a woman you know, uh kids and thinking that it's normal behaviour to

choke a woman. You know, and it scares me that these young guys it's it's normalized for them. So I think they did this um massive study in the UK where they found that it was normalized for the younger generation of guys where they thought it was normal and okay to choke or strangle your partner during sex and Fifty-seven percent of women in an Australian study of over four and a half thousand. But shad.

It's hard because I'm a lady who likes to be choked sometimes. So it's like Yeah, okay. Where do I I don't even know where I sit with this. Like, I think that For the common, I think it's like a vaccine. I'm gonna I'm about to say something really stupid. It's for the herd. Mm-hmm. It's not for the individual, right? And so I think that by me not being choked anymore and me not accepting being Strangled during sex or anything like that.

you know, the less men do it then, you know, maybe it's something that Um doesn't happen as much and maybe the next generation it's not a thing that happens at all during sex or I gotta tell you, language is a big part of it. When you say strangled, I'm like, oh Yeah. Choked. So much nicer. It's like choke me maybe. You can't like yeah, I got it. But then my stream is a little bit more than a little bit. Really? You know, I can't breathe and I'm going blue. Yeah. And they were in my um just it

experimenting times in my early twenties where I'm like, Oh yeah, I like to be choked and so then I'm getting like choked to the pa point of, you know Yeah. And so I think that I would just rather Give it up. I have actually tried. So there's a guy that um that I was dating and I was like,

Oh, you you know, you're allowed to choke me sometimes in the bedroom. Like I enjoy it. Go for it. And he was like, Okay, I'm just gonna try it. I've never done it. I d I don't agree with it, but I'm just gonna see what it's like. And he was just like put his hands around her neck. Two hands is like Well he didn't know. And he's just like No, but he couldn't

But there was no pressure. It was just like he was just like, uh Like a neck price. Yes. Supporting your neck a bit. And he's just like, uh uh. Mm, no. He's like, Do you know what? It actually makes me feel sick. I can't I can't do it. I was like, Okay, all right, I respect that. So That's cool. Yeah. So we didn't we didn't do that. But that two hands coming at you is a scary look. Yeah. That's like, Oh my gosh. Yeah. No thanks. No thanks. It's an interesting one, but I feel like

good. It's good in the long term and I and I think that the UK bringing that in, I think that will then, you know, spread to

other countries as well and hopefully they'll do the same here. We shall see. Well, uh what we're gonna do to wrap up each episode uh of In My Box is uh what it says on the cover. We're going to go through a message that you have received in your DMs. Yeah. Breaking it down. You're encouraged to get on the show by just submitting or simply go to Carly Electric on Insta to get in her box.

Um well you know there's another way to do that. Slide into my DMs. Um look, there's two ways to get into my box. Uh probably the cheapest and easiest is to just slide into my DMs. Uh you can do that on I don't know, Facebook Messenger if you're over the age of forty five. And if you're under the age of forty five, Instagram, preferably.

There you go. So uh you've shot this one through. Yeah, so I have people DM me all the time asking questions, sending me weird stuff, and so I have a question from I was gonna say a listener. Yeah, he's a listener. Okay, I have a question. Let's let's get to it. It says Stupid question, but are you covered by work cover in your industry? That would be the best claim ever. Injured ankle ligaments doing a reverse flip spin slide sex act. Jesus.

Seriously though, I hope you're okay and surgery goes well. Thank you. Now um context for this was you uh did your uh ankle and your well both your legs actually in one in a motorbike and one in a cockroach related incident. Unbelievable. Uh getting too scared and jumping on your leg and then breaking that one as well. So

Look, it's a very valid question. I'm not covered by work cover at all. There isn't a coverage you can get. No, for su okay. Surely you can get it. This is what I don't understand about my industry is I am taxed. I've got a bookkeeper. I've got an accountant. I run everything through them. I pay my taxes. Sometimes. Um I pay my taxes. I'm a legitimate business. I've got an ABN. I'm a registered company. I am like registered for GST. Like I'm a company and a legit business.

But I'm not able to get any type of insurance or cover or anything like that. But then it also makes me think, well, What about a third party? Like, what about liability insurance? Well, I was gonna say, don't you have public liability? Like as a comic, like if I do shows I have to have public liability and I've got public liability. I can't get it. So what happens if

a client comes to me to my hotel room and has a full slips and falls in the shower. It's such a grey area. So like, you know, even like OH and S, like we don't I don't have There's no like OH and S standard for anything. They do in brothels and and strip clubs of course.

'Cause in my head I'm thinking OH and S they'd be like, Okay, you get to the hotel room like, geez, there's a bit of a step there, put some rubber match put some glow put some glow tape there to make sure someone doesn't slip. Rubber mat in there. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Wet wet floor. Wet floor. Um Uh what about things like imagine they're checking my pH levels. This is ridiculous, guys. Shut it down. Shut it down, boys. Spread your legs. We need to check those pH levels.

It's just not up to regulation, unfortunately. Anyway, I've just talked myself out of OHS and everything like that. No, so if you do get injured, you're done. You can't get any kind of um assistance. Anyway, I'm just so glad that I'm back working and back walking. So there you go, thanks for that uh text there. You can get into more just go into Carly's socials if you wanna get in her box.

Uh and next week we're gonna do a big deep dive actually. Um these are my favourite types of episodes to do with you. Yeah. And these are horror stories or wild encounters uh from clients and sex workers in the industry. So this one is actually Anyway, I'll be able to do that.