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Our first LIVE show in Germany!

May 26, 202552 minSeason 1Ep. 33
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Summary

Liam and Valérie perform their first live podcast show in Mannheim, discussing the struggles of learning German, particularly for Liam after 11 years in Germany. They share anecdotes about cultural clashes in their British-German marriage, the challenges of content creation, and Liam's journey towards German citizenship and future fluency goals. The episode also touches on Liam's famous German shopping culture shock.

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In Germany we don't say the Podcast - Episode 33

Our first live show at the SWR Podcast Festival in Mannheim! We talk about German learning struggles, culture clashes in marriage and much more...

Thanks to 190a and the SWR Podcast Festival for having us!

Part 2 coming soon

Transcript

Intro / Opening

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Welcome to Our First Live Show

Should we talk a bit more about us? I just think we're never going to speak German. Okay, good. And I'm hoping everyone is... understanding most of what we're saying as well today i'm sorry if it's it's too much english wait what you are not you are not very uh let's say committed To your job. To being in the videos. And you were like, by the way, I quit basketball. I was like, wait, like in the future? Or you did? Oh no, I've done it. I quit basketball. Okay.

Today's the big day. Come on, we have to go. Let's do this. You prepared everything, right? No, I thought you were doing it. But you wanted to do the live show. Yeah, but the podcast was your idea. What are we going to do now? We'll come up with something. Like what? Like we always do. But usually there isn't a live audience. People have actually bought tickets to this. Unfortunately, yes. Bloody hell. Why did I agree to this? Let's just stay calm.

it would be fine have you at least done the intro yeah that's why i'm filming this no we in germany we don't say intro oh no i haven't how about In Germany, we don't say, welcome to our live show. It's so nice to see you all. We say, hello. No. No. Pass to John. Just go. Wish me luck, Charlie. Hallo. Hi. Should we do the intro quickly? Of course we can. So it should be in Germany if you don't say. Oh my God, it's so nice to see you all here.

Bisschen unangenehm. Ja, ja schon. Just a bit. Nice to see you all. This is a bit different than usually. It's not our living room, is it? Yeah.

Audience Check and English Explanation

How are you? Yeah. Feeling good? I'm okay. Everyone feeling good? Nice. I would love to just get like a feel for the room. Can we like just get hands up? Who's German? That's not bad, isn't it? Oh, I did not say that many people. The question is, who is not German? Who's not German? Oh, yeah. Who is not German but has a German passport? There you go, Liam. That's me, too. Nice. Wow. I didn't expect that. Liam said, on the way here, he said, I think 70% are non-Germans. Yep.

I was wrong. And now this is all in English. Sorry. Anyone who wasn't aware of this is in English. But can I also ask who has seen an episode of the podcast before? Okay, so expectations are low. That's good. I feel like there are a lot of people here just being dragged here for some reason. My next question was who's been forced to... There we go. My person was honest.

If she's not German, I'm done. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, nice. Wow. But we're going to explain why it's in English, and that's because of you. Wait, what? Sorry, what? People would think that's probably because of me. It is because of you. 100% of you. Okay. Why? You hate speaking German with me. Yeah. Well, if I talk to them, then I'm fine. If I have to talk to you, then I'm going to struggle, yeah. Yeah.

So it's mainly going to be in English. Okay, yeah. It's okay? Sorry. It's fine for me, yeah. It's okay for you, yeah.

Introducing Us and the Podcast

Yes, learning German has just been a very big struggle. Well, considering a lot of people haven't actually listened to the podcast, do you want to introduce yourself so it's a bit less awkward? Sorry, yes. So my name is Liam. I am from England. And I've been living in Germany for nearly 11 years now. Yeah. And you? Yeah, I'm Valerie.

I'm Liam's wife, I'm German, and I struggle to speak German with Liam. I thought you were going to say you struggle living with me. Didn't want to drop that yet. We'll come to that later, maybe. But we've been doing this podcast since June last year. It's a video podcast. It is being filmed. You're not being filmed. Unless you sign something. Because we are still in Germany.

Reasons. Exactly. If you haven't signed something, you're not going to be seen anywhere. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. This is the 30th episode, by the way. Really? Yeah. Yay! maybe the last i was just gonna say first live show podcast and like show at all but could also be the last again a lot of people might not know who you are and what you're doing so this is even more awkward now saying this is just our first live podcast

British and German Culture Clashes

Yes, I mean, I'm making videos about living in Germany for four years. And how strange you find it, living with a German? Or in Germany? Yeah. I think you have to watch the videos to find out. But yeah, there's been a lot of differences between the cultures, British culture, way of doing things, German culture, and that. We've just kind of clashed together, haven't we? That's exactly how it all happened. So you're asking what life is like married to a German.

Yeah, just watch the videos and you know and we will never find out if I'm that German or if it's just you know me yeah You are

Liam Becoming More German

You're not that German. No, yeah. I think the best compliment I've gotten from your dad, actually, was that I'm the most British German. so i take that i take that as a compliment i'm less rude apparently i say please and thank you a lot apparently you do not with me yes yeah yeah would you say i'm very british or more now to the german i feel like when we met nine years ago you were very very british and i don't know what happened

Something happened, but you become more and more German. I was so innocent. You were so innocent indeed, yes. You were very shy, very innocent. Every second word was like, please or thank you. Look at you now. Now it's nine. Or making sure the neighbors do what they are supposed to do. Yes. Complaining about wrongly parked cars. Yeah, looking through the bins. Yeah.

I asked the other day, I asked him, like, is anything happening next week, I think it was Friday, and he was like, it's Yellow Bin Day. You know, you've got the Abfall calendar, and I have this. on my phone and it notifies me every time the bin's being taken out. Yeah. You also get the hard copy version of it. Yes. And there is leaning against your citizenship.

Yes. Have you seen? Yeah, good. So you are aware that you've done that, yeah? Yes. Okay, good. That says a lot about how German you are, I think. Yeah. Yes, I checked that up on the calendar. I know you do, yeah. So back to why is this in English?

Why We Speak English

It is in English because... Why is it in English? I just think it's like easier. It's more natural for us. That's the main point. Because if it was in German, the episodes would probably be ten minutes long. Or ten minutes longer, because it takes you quite a while to finish a sentence. Yeah. I mean, if... because most of the audience is german here yeah we could let's tease maybe for the second half we could do five minutes straight german oh ha everyone

Okay. For me does he do that not, right? For 400 people do that. Do you do that? Yes. Okay, yeah, second half we'll talk German a little bit more. Nice. Okay, nice. Wow, pressure's on now. So is anyone in the audience who is like an international couple?

International Couples and Language Mixing

Not speaking there. Oh, first row perfect. Nice. There we go. Okay. So what language would you talk at home? Both. Both. English. Love it. Are we doing that? Why? Because we sound very stupid and dumb. I cannot confirm this. But we find it as well sometimes that... Like randomly I'll just come out with a German word or you'll say something very British. Do I? Yeah. Like also the sentence structure as well.

Like, I will say, if I'm taking the train, I'm driving with the train. Yeah, your English got much worse. That's true. Sometimes, when we... do content at home and you say something like obviously we're not checking the language because it is english and then you're like is that how we say it i was like how am i supposed to tell you like it's your mother tongue literally yeah but

Do we have any... This is not biased at all, but do we have any Brits in the... Oh, nice. Wow. Okay. We do have a few. In Mannheim. Crazy. I was thinking this joke the other day about Mannheim. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Knowing you could be saving money for the things you really want, like that dream house or ride, is a great feeling.

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It's not many people. You can do it. It's a bad joke. Clearly do it. I was trying to think why it's called Mannheim. And I was thinking, you get here and you think, man, I want to go home. Wow. I thought of this and I just knew it was bad and I knew you would hate it as well. Yeah, it sounds like a content anyway. That's good he got a few laughs. I was going to also say...

Creating Content and Feedback

when I'm making content at home. And it's very tough to gauge if it's going to work. Like, I'm just going off of gut feeling. If the video's going to perform, it's going to be funny. And my only kind of... way of finding out is through you and it's very good and it's very bad because you give me nothing I think I've shown some probably some of my like let's say top performing videos to you and i get like a one word response like nice or this might work

That's my honest feedback, isn't it? It's just brutal. But it's good because you elevate the expectations. So if you're wondering why... Yeah, the content might be for you. I would say it's because of her. Oh, great. Thanks. If someone watching the videos now, they're like, wait, what? Yeah. Thank you, though. Thanks. It's tough, though, sometimes.

Finding content. Pleasing you with the content. I mean, you're literally offending me with your content, so I mean... Yeah, to be fair, there are some videos as well when you've been like... I don't think you should boast that. I think you'll get in trouble with that. Yeah, I did. And you did get in trouble before. But you didn't listen to me.

just out of curiosity does um has anyone followed like the videos from like way back like a few years ago three four years ago sorry so so sorry for some of those videos yeah they were Me running with chickens behind you doing weird trends. Yeah. We've come a long way. Yeah. Well done. Well done. Yeah. Anyway, I think we're more here for your experiences in Germany. Yeah.

Liam's German Learning Journey

even though we've been here now for 11 years. So how's your German learning journey, Liam? Well, the first year in Germany, I didn't really learn anything because... I was planning on moving away after the first year. But then I met you. What did you? And I had to stay.

Basically. Because of you. I locked you in. Or you fell in love with Germany and you really liked how people are. To be fair, I think Germany... looks much nicer as a country like the towns cities is better than UK in my opinion I prefer the yeah I'm going to lose my British citizenship. Yeah, I was going to say, but once you leave here today, someone's going to be there like, sorry, Mr. Carpenter. It's time now. That was like a debate when I got my citizenship.

if I was going to have to give my British one away. And I think you were like, yeah, give it away, give it away. I do not remember this. But luckily, before Brexit... Just. It was just before Brexit. I got dual citizenship. Yeah. Well done. But yeah, I started learning a bit more then. It's just tough because your English is so good.

Aww. I get that feedback a lot, actually, about you. Thanks. So your English is very good. So yours is getting worse and mine is just continuously good. And that... Joking. Yeah. And the feedback that people think you're the British one and I'm the German one. We get that a lot. If people don't know it, it's always like, I'm the Brit and you are the German. Because you look very German.

But then I smile and you see my teeth and then it's an instant giveaway that I'm British. That's why we confuse people who's who.

German in Daily Life and Friends

Yes, but then I started learning a little bit when I met you. We still don't talk German day to day. You know, I still can't talk German in our apartment, like even when you're not there. Oh no, you do. Yeah, at work I do, of course I do. When I hear you on the phone at work, I'm like, I'm scared as hell. I'm really breaking it at home. Might be my job though.

but yes we don't we don't talk in german no but like i mean i think when we live in our older apartment and you still be playing basketball yeah i had one of my friends over And when I'm not thinking about talking to them, like just randomly saying something like, yeah, yeah, help yourself. I actually do say that in English because my brain works English when we're at home. Yeah, see?

That's how you changed me. Good influence on you. You're a bad influence on me. I'm a good influence on you. Great, good. Yes, I would blame you for my lack of German, honestly. We've got friends there. They all speak German. I was going to say, we've got some friends here in the audience. Can we get a round of applause for our friends?

They're your only hope, literally. Your only German learning hope. Why did we put them in first row? That was a bad idea. But yes, we are mainly speaking German with our friends. i only speak german with them yes i was going to bring this up actually because i remember a lot of situations when you would speak german i would be there so there's a conversation going on german for about 10 20 minutes

And then you look to me and you go, so what do you think? In English, like, making me feel terrible. You know what? The problem is... In bigger groups, you are shy in general, so we kind of want to include you in the conversation. So if you're not proactively asking, then we're not really getting a response anyway. I'm trying to find my window to jump in.

That is tough in our group. Oh no, that sentence is finished. Oh no, someone else has started. Ah, what did I want to say? Okay, sorry. Yeah. So...

Understanding vs. Speaking German

You still, like whenever someone asks you, you do say you understand everything though. Pretty much. So... It's just tough to... transfer the words from the brain to the mouth in a good time. Okay, yeah. So next time we actually see our friends, we just...

Like, every time we want an answer from you, we'll just give you a minute to wait. Yeah. Like, we've got to finish our conversation. Then it's just silence for a minute. Yeah. And then you can respond. Yes. Okay, good. Yeah, I mean, got to learn it somehow.

The German Citizenship Test

But then the citizenship test came. I passed the test with the language. I got a lot of confidence out of that. You didn't even get a clap for that. Nice. The citizenship test, by the way, was probably the easiest test I've ever done in my life. No, no, no, it's not a bad way, but the system, you can memorise. the questions, the answers. It's like driver's license, isn't it? Literally. And I remember I walked in and I got 31 out of 33 right. And then I walked out after five minutes.

I was literally the first one. What were the ones who failed? Oh, that is a good question. Definitely something about... The name Konrad Adenauer is just like cemented in my brain. You know, we've been to Madame Tussauds in Berlin the other day, and he was very proud when he actually met him. You were like, I know this guy from the citizenship test. Okay, even better. I had a picture with the David Hasselhoff wax figure. I was proud of that. You still are.

yes yeah so yeah and then yeah from then i've just kind of been picking things up day to day not from you but from from me at work maybe yeah i mean i give you a lot of german content from work yeah

Work Language and Statistics

But yeah, I think this is good in English. I feel like, well, I have found very interesting. Lely, you had a work call and you... continuously spoke English whilst the other person on the phone talk german to you yes we had a was there an agreement or is that just like by a mistake you just both ignored that the other one wouldn't understand the world and that went on for like an hour or something i was like do they know what they're talking about like it's

actually business like does this work at the end there are some people that I have only spoken German with and that is when it's not cool yes When we start speaking German from the very beginning, and we're both on the same page, you don't know my English skills, I don't know your English skills, that's fine. So that was that work call.

Okay. Someone I only speak German with. No, but you spoke English. Yes, because there was another person in that call who only speaks English with me. Oh, you were like, what to do now? A triangle. Like every other sentence is like either German or English. Yeah, but he could understand English and I understood. Did you check that or do you just assume that? No, no, I knew.

Okay, okay. You know, in preparation of this podcast episode, I actually checked that in Germany, like, I think in average, people speak 2.3 languages. Oh. What's the point three? I don't know, but it's the average. Some people speak three, others speak two. Others speak eight, and some people minus three or something. But you've got the bits like... Or Denglish, maybe. Maybe Denglish is in there as well. Yeah, Denglish. Yeah, true. And do you want to guess how many people in England...

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about, I mean, I'm fending myself here, learning languages. And I, yeah, I approve that, I think. It's 25%. It's not that bad. 25%? 25%, not a second language. Wow. And it's probably not German. I did not check it. Just because it... What's that? Someone said something? It's Welsh. It's Welsh. Yeah, that's a good one. Germans, I just don't feel like Germans really pushed in the English curriculum, where I was anyway. It was more like Spanish, French. Okay, so how's your French?

This isn't in France we don't say. Fair, fair. I don't have to prove anything to you. Okay, okay, it's fine, it's fine. Yes, so...

Failed German Speaking Ideas

But this is fine, right? And I'm hoping everyone is understanding most of what we're saying as well today. I'm sorry if it's too much English. Let me just switch. Yeah. We had this idea... Oh, I had this idea. We would have like this wheel in the middle and it would have like different time amounts of how long I would have to speak German for in the episode.

like ten minutes, five minutes, and there would be like this one very small thing where it would say, I can just keep speaking English, but we haven't got around to doing it yet. Do you want to tell everyone what happened to that wheel? I accidentally wrote on it with like a permanent marker some weird things just to test it out. It was like, are we having salad for dinner? Are we going to eat out for dinner?

And then I couldn't get it off. It was quite a pricey wheel as well. It's fine. Back to the drawing board. Yeah. Next time. Yeah. Yeah.

Teaching German and Self-Learning

If there is a next time. Anyway, you did learn the language in the end. And we tried for the citizenship that I teach you. Because the worst part is that I used to teach German for foreign people. Before I moved. to Baden-Württemberg. It did not work, did it? You get so angry. No, the problem is because we met and you could order a beer and that was it really. So... It's enough. Yes. I mean, we got married, so that's all it took for me, I guess. So when we...

Usually like when we just have a conversation I don't want to feel like I talked to a four-year-old like four-year-old boy Because like you actually have to speak slow and use easy words and wait a minute to get a response apparently so it's it's just not getting you in the mood is it no speaking then

Yeah, so that's why and then like the brain just you know, I want an equal partner So that's why we just stick to English Yeah, and when we it just took you a bit to understand the grammar and just like I'm not patient enough for that Yeah, that was... After work. What did someone say? Oh, I thought someone said something. No, but the problem is I didn't learn it properly. Yeah, that's true. I didn't ever have a teacher.

It was always through apps, books by myself. So I would not recommend doing that. Not learning the language when you live here? Yeah. Fair enough, fair enough. But after 11 years...

Hiding German Level After 11 Years

I feel like I'm at a place now where I can get by quite comfortably. That is true. And now it would also be a bit more embarrassing if you actually went to a beginner's class and they're like, so how long do you live here? 11 years?

It's like when you're at the party and you ask for a name and then three hours later you don't remember it. Then you just like get along and try to, you know, hide that you forgot the name. So at this point, I guess you just kind of have to sneak your way through it. It's pretty embarrassing, actually. 11 years. Yeah. Sorry. The next 11. I'm not going to be in England. No.

Future Fluency Goals

I was going to say it will be better. That would have been such an announcement today. So... I thought the other day that because I've lived in the UK for 18 years, moved here 11 years now... By the time it's been 18 years here, I would like to think that the language level would be the same. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So I've got seven more years until it's the halfway point. 18 years in the UK, 18 years in Germany. And then I would like to be fluent in both.

Sounds doable, though. Yeah, right? Like seven years. I mean, some people do that in six months. Exactly. You can do it. Also, the big problem is that my job has never really... required it, which is a bad excuse, but I've always struggled with that. I played in basketball teams, everyone speaking English, Americans. Spaniards, yeah, it was not the biggest motivator in those environments. Yeah, so... Tell yourself, that's fine.

Make it sound less bad. I'm not trying to make an excuse, but... I think in seven years you're going to be there and that's all that matters. Yeah. For your timeline. Yeah. Good. Yes.

Our Marriage Story and UK Wedding

Should we talk a bit more about us? Why are you smiling? Depends what you're asking. Well, I was just going to say, we've been together for... Nine years. Yes. And a bit. Yes. We've been married for over eight. Yes. We got remarried. Not for the citizenship. No. Not just before Brexit.

Like, got nothing to do with it. You know what? Definitely not. That really annoyed me in the beginning. True love. Because we got married a year and a half after we met. And so many people were like, oh, he's just done it for the citizenship, hasn't he? And I'm so angry. It seemed a bit obvious at that time. It's so obvious that it was for the money. Yeah, thanks.

But that's Steuerklasse. I have that Steuerklasse. So it was for my money, really. It helped you. It backfired big time. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, we got remarried last year in the UK. So first time was in Germany at the art house Standesamt and then last year we did wedding in england yeah and we shocked the hell out of some germans i think and british as well i think like considering the germans we took there we had singers waiters

At our dinner. Yeah. Dropping glasses, pretending to be waiters. Babies were crying. And then they started singing, breaking out into song. That, yeah, those faces were priceless. Yeah. You know what? I found the... the best part not the best part of the wedding but when we talked about it afterwards yeah you would say all the germans are very direct and like you know very strict and kind of commanding that crew working there was

Purely based on army background. Efficiency, right? I remember one of our friends used to call them little Feldwebel. Because they, like literally, they didn't allow you to go to... The bathroom, when there was the bridal entrance and stuff, they had a strict schedule. I was like, this does not feel British at all. Yeah, because I remember just before the ceremony started...

there was word that there was a fire on the motorway and that some people couldn't make it. And they were really like... keeping everyone calm making sure no one was leaving because i was already there so they were panicking that they could see the bride yeah even though we were married for seven eight years already so many people there

were like, oh, yeah, you're going to be Mr. and Mrs. And we're like, it's not that big of a deal. We were Mr. and Mrs. already. Yeah. That was a waste of money, wasn't it? Fair played. I remember we posted something. We had a wedding post with pictures. And I was looking through some of the comments and the top one was, why? Such a good question though, like why have we done that after like eight years? Someone replied saying, because of love.

What is that? A lot of people did say, because they love each other. That's it. That's why we've done it. And then the next reply was, hey? You can just tell like who's from where in the comment section. Yeah. So that is do not check your comment section on social media. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. but yeah wedding was good we're still still going

We're not gonna have a third one. I've got a Christmas card. You know, Brits are very big on Christmas cards, so I always get like a very fancy Christmas card. everything. You can Venmo this or you can Venmo that. You can Venmo that. And this time, it didn't even have that many words in it, but it said no more proposals. That was literally the first sentence. No more proposals. So I think we're done with weddings. Yeah. What's next? The Zilberner?

Hochzeit. Silber Hochzeit. Silber Hochzeit. I think there are plenty before that with weird names. Really? Yeah. I don't even know. 25 years? Yeah. Yeah. So by our Silberhochzeit, you're going to be fluent in German. You reckon by the time we actually speak German? We are never, I just think we're never going to be speaking German. Okay, good. I mean, yeah. Fine. That's because of you. Yeah, thanks. Keep saying it. Yeah, fair. Fair. Yes. This is crazy. Sorry, I'm just taking it all in.

Culture Shock: German Shopping

So your biggest, like, shock, I think you said that before in the podcast, is shopping. Yes. Yeah. Einkaufen. Einkaufen. Yeah. Yeah. Because of the... Yeah, people don't believe me when I say it, but it is. That was the first culture shock. Really? Like, if you have experienced the British way...

of the very nice, how are you, how are you doing? You know, can I help you pack your bag? What are you doing today, my dear? Can you imagine someone in Coalfland or somewhere saying, oh yeah, darf ich Ihnen helfen mitpacken? That's not what I would say. I'd lose my mind. I would lose my mind. Fair enough, fair enough. Everyone was confused when they asked me about my day and what I'm going to do. I'm like, why do you want to know? What's happening?

I don't live here. Like, don't follow me. I'll be at home, you can't do anything. So it's too much for you? Yeah. But they're always kind and nice, so I like it, kind of. Yeah. To be fair, there are some very nice cashiers here as well. Me? In your videos. Yeah, I don't know, but I think I adapted very quickly. i think that is the good thing i'd like to think about myself here i think i've adapted very quickly to like the culture i can tell you why why

Because you're an introvert and you just don't like interactions with people. Yeah. That makes so much sense that you came here. Yeah. I don't like confrontations. I just get in line and do what I'm supposed to do. Quickly, as quick as possible. Like, you're the most efficient person living here. Just because, you know, you're scared of conversations.

yeah but i think there's it's good right because then i've just uh blend i blend in i think i don't stick out like a sore thumb i was about to say some

German Pronunciation Challenges

See, there we go. Yeah, I think, because you said that before, that your grammar is getting worse, I feel like the pronunciation is the problem. Pronunciation? Because you do say V. Like, we do that. Sometimes, yeah. Because your brain is still content. Like, sometimes you can't really switch anymore between... content language. I've said thank you. Thank you. And we say too many times. We say, yeah. Yes. But like going back to the German.

There's just some words that I cannot pronounce and get out. Give me an example. The R's. Oh, yeah. He's not bad at that one. Okay, never mind. And now say Rohrreiniger. Oh we had more words, sorry. Tschechisches Streichholzschächtelchen. Now you, do it. My lips are dry. Wait. Very good. Any more? You want to test me on? What was your one? Rohrreiniger. Rohrreiniger. I think you're getting there though with the R. I do know...

There's this one very long word that is just like stuck in my brain. Go for it. I think there is in the top five of the longest German words as well. Yeah, it's definitely up there. What does it mean? What does it mean? I know what it means. Really? It's the regulation of beef or meat labeling. Like, yes. Am I right? I'm getting some nods. Yes. Well done. Yeah. Can you pronounce it? No.

My favorite was when we met and you started speaking German, you always said Nudeln instead of Nudeln. The U's always confused me. When it's a normal U. Nuden. It's an U. Nuden. And Duna as well, right? Yeah. But you're better with the U's, but you're struggling with the U's. And it's like... When Liam's writing his script and there is German in it, then usually I have to double check it. And the chances are high that the U is an U or the U is an U. We did this one video.

about eating a doona and i made valerie stand the other side of the camera and every time i would say it i would say doona you're like no it's doona And then I would retake, retake until you were like, move, that's okay, move on. And I like my expectations about getting lower each time. I was like, yeah, good enough. Yeah. But getting you to be...

Content Creation Process and Challenges

involved in the content yeah that is that is work wait what you are not you are not very uh let's say committed. To your job. To being in the videos. Again, to your job. Like it's not a frivolish thing that you do. Yeah. Really? I really have to pull you into them. I have to be in the mood. Yes. I know what you want to say. Come on, say it. There's sometimes I've asked you, like, you'll be working at your desk and I come in with the script. Hey.

How you doing? Do you want to just film this video quickly? And then you're getting off the work all fine. And it's perfect. It's not happening ever. Because... That is the mood I want you to be in. Yeah, I know. I know you were going to say that. We did have that. I might have been a little bit moody when we filmed the video, and I just... Usually I just want to get done.

done with it i was like yeah come on what do i have to say what i have to do and then i just do my lines and then i go back to work and then he he posted he was like that video is performing well i was like oh wow cool nice he was like because you were pissed the whole time anyway Sometimes it works. So now I only ask you.

when it's not convenient. Yeah, exactly. You just have to find the right spot when I'm in bad meetings. I'm like, do you have a meeting in the next 20 minutes? And when I'm already angry, then you have to ask. The best time was last week or two weeks ago? I think I messaged you. I was on the way somewhere asking if you had time the next day to film something. And you replied saying, yes, 9.30 to 10. We can do this.

I have a full-time job. Like I actually have to squeeze you in there somewhere. Oh yeah, a lot of respect. She works full-time and doing this as well. So yeah, full respect. Thank you. My bosses are still scared. That you're going to stop and do this? Yeah, like when you have those check-ins with your bosses, they're like, so do you plan on staying?

Oh, this does not make sense anymore to work here for you. I couldn't even imagine life with you actually putting effort into this. I know. Thanks. Thanks. When I waste my hours at work. he was like oh god i really thought you would stop working for me sorry next life maybe just too germ you like the the structure of your job i like the security of a full-time job

You know, Rentenversicherung. Yeah. You know, all these things. I don't have to worry about Krankenversicherung. Yeah. You know exactly each month what's coming in. Exactly. Yeah. And then I just had... I went from... playing basketball like that was so funny because when we first met I think you thought, oh, basketball player. I was like, yeah, I'm here for the money. And then, yeah, then a few weeks later, she found out how much I paid. I was like, damn, I'm the one with the money.

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Valerie's German Job and Security

Yeah. Still together though. And then I went from crazy job to another crazy job. Yeah. And I just stick to my German job. Like I'm literally working in Maschinenbau. Couldn't be more German. good old engineering see she tells me what she does sometimes the days at work and i'm just like I don't even talk much about works. I just know it's not worth it. It just goes in one ear. It's just like speaking travel with you, you know. Yes. Yes. I just nod.

That's the polite British in you, nodding. I should have taken a picture of your face when I said I'm quitting basketball to start making the videos full time. My heart. That was an interesting... He says conversation. It was like a text message. Literally, it was a text message. Yeah, it was. I told you about it. Because you were in England and I was in Germany. I was having Glühwein with friends and you were like, by the way, I quit basketball. And I was like, wait, like, in the future?

Or you did. Oh no, I've done it. I quit basketball. Okay. Here we are. Wouldn't be here without it. Yes, exactly. So thanks for your trust.

Untouched Topics and Filming Disasters

You know what I find the most interesting in you living here for 11 years and making content about it. how weird we are and all these things you find interesting about Germans, that they are up to today still topics you haven't even touched. Like what? Office work. I've never worked in an office. I know. And that actually kind of backfired once. Yeah. Do you want to say it or me? No, it's your story, isn't it? So basically there was this one...

The late night show, Yoko? It's class. Oh, it's class? Yeah, that's how well it went. they had these segments and it was called weird germany i don't know if anyone's seen it um guess no they do it every like few months and they invited me on the show to talk about working in an office And we had this call with the guy producing it. And I was like, yeah, I haven't really worked in an office here. Or in England. And they're like, yeah, fine. Just make something up.

And then I got there and I kept referring back to you. I said, oh yeah, my wife says those things about work. And he said, nein, you cannot talk about your wife in the episode. It's about you. Fair enough. So I just kept having to make up these situations that I thought I'd experienced at work. It was like, you know, what's it like eating lunch at work?

You know, and I just, I was just freezing blanks. Because I'd never done it. I still feel bad to the day. You feel bad? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. You should have been there. I couldn't even help as well. Well, I was there. Just didn't help you. Yeah. But, yeah, office life. What else? Is there any other situations I haven't covered? Oh, yeah, a lot of the actual engineering. I feel like Germany is very well known for their engineering. Yeah. Something else you haven't touched. To be fair...

I think there are even regulations to say I probably couldn't film that. Really? Because of the machines, not me interfering with it. Of course not. Yeah, so that's not my fault. Okay, yeah, definitely not your fault. Fair, fair, fair, fair. I remember I had this one idea of filming something at a Verstofhof. And I had this idea that... this the british character would be in one of the containers at you know the one that compresses with the paper

And you're surprised that that didn't go through with the agency. And the people said, no, there's too many laws against that. What are you talking about? Yeah, what do I? So, yeah. it's not my fault again again not your fault just the you know just working with what i would have got here but i think the biggest problem there is i

I only like filming videos from home. I don't like filming outside. Of course you're an introvert, coming back to that. It literally is the worst. He's having so many ideas, which only makes sense if you are out and about. Yeah. And then it's like Sunday morning, 8 a.m. Come on, we're going to go to that traffic light because there's not going to be any car there. We're going to film there real quick. And then we get there.

full cars like like minus five degrees sunday morning just standing there like waiting like come on we can quickly film this there's only like one person walking let's say a hundred meters back there it's like no we can't stop and then i'm still holding the phone it's like stop take the phone down take the phone down but this is good because you're like just do it I actually think a lot of videos wouldn't have happened without your, like... Being mad about you. Yeah, but that, I think...

I just don't want to get in people's way here. I feel like I don't want to get anyone on the camera because, you know, darn shirts and everything. And I don't want to be that person like... You know, taking up the space, filming. So I'd just rather do it from home. You know, we live, like, in a village. That's even worse. Because then the people will, like, see you daily. See you again. Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, okay, fair.

But still, I can still film you when there are people like 100 meters away, I think. But it's fine. Yeah. It still works. It works fast, doesn't it? Yeah, there's always green screen. Yeah.

Break and What's Coming Next

Yes. Nice. Yeah. You want to wrap up before we actually have a little break so everyone can speak German for a second? Maybe we should we say what's happening later on? Go for it. It's your show. So we have to have a break in the show. There's a 15-minute break. It's like flisht. Yes. So the brains can recover. Yes. But then we've got a game from you. Valerie's prepared a game to challenge me. And I could also have help from the audience as well to help me out in that game. Can you?

We also would like to do a Q&A or something similar like this. If you've got any questions for us or topics that you would like to bring up, we would love to hear from you as well. in the second half of the show. So maybe you can think about that in the break. Write down your questions. After that, we would have some time for like, yeah, we would just come and say hello if you wanted to stick around.

I know we're missing Tartort right now. I know. You know, I keep checking the time, like, oh, it is, you know, 10 to 9, missed like 35 minutes already. Yeah. But if you would like to stick around after... the second half of this. Yeah, we would stick around for a bit as well. We've bought some things that we would... signed, if you would care for that? No one knows why you would care. I've got a very funny story about...

Which you've got to tell then. I'm going to tell at the end. But a couple months ago, there was a German who messaged me online asking for an autograph. And that was a very complex process. But we'll get to that later. Oh, good. So that's the teaser. Cliffhanger. Wait, what are you doing? Time for a break, Liam. Is it? Oh, we've gone over. He actually doesn't believe we were supposed to stop at 45. This is not very efficient, is it? You've got 50 minutes.

Okay, so we're just going to take a quick break, 15 minutes, and yeah, get some drinks. Hopefully see you there then. Help yourself, and yeah, we'll be back then.

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