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Forward Progress with Tom Izzo: MSU’s Worst Loss and 2000 Championship

Mar 20, 20255 min
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In this week’s motivational podcast, Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo explains the sentimental value behind what he recalls as the worst loss to-date during his illustrious tenure at MSU. Coach goes on by praising Mateen Cleeves as the “Magic Johnson” of the Spartans’ national championship team in 2000, plus the emotional toll of continually pursuing a second title.

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Hey, it's Thursday, which means we're coming at you with a short feel good story from a past guest. Hope you enjoyed the clip this week, Tom Izzo. How about your most emotional loss over the years? Wow, my most emotional loss. I mean, I I've had a lot of them, but. You've been known to shed a tear. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm an Italian guy worth my emotions on my sleeve. Sometimes good and sometimes bad, but sometimes those officials can't take a joke.

What can I say about it? You know, it's just the way it is. But I think the worst one for me was, I want to say it was 2015 when I had a kid named Denzel Valentine. We had a really, really good team. We're we should have been a one seed. We ended up a two seed. Middle Tennessee should have been about a twelve seed. They end up a 15 seed. And that team shot 56% against us from the field and 53 from the three.

And we shot in the 50s and lost. And I've had about 3 or 4 that I really thought were Final four teams, but that one was one. And it was with a group of guys I'd known. Denzel, I recruited his dad out of the math of high school when I was a Gai, watched him, won three state championships here in high school. He came here and I watched them grow as a person and as a player. And I have a saying, Do you like the game? Do you love the game or do you live the game?

It's the three L's. And he lived it. And we're out in the first round. And that was hard to stomach, It really was. It it still gets to you. You can tell, Yeah, it does because I I think you have we, we've gone to a final four as a seven seed. So I think every year we have a chance. But when you lose as a one or two seed and you had the type of guys I had, you know, like some teams. I mean, you'll, you'll like them all, you know, love some of them, but there's some that are

special. He was special, but we were a 2 and we ran into a a team that was very well coached and very good and, and you know, and all the media, well, you look past them. No, that that wasn't the case. That's the difference with football and basketball to me. I tell Mary Jo time, not many upsets happen in football. Use the bigger, stronger, better team wins over the 60 minutes. In basketball, we have two outliers, a three-point shot and

the officials. And and I say that not negatively about the officials, but if your star player gets in foul trolls and can change the game. So those two factors in this game, neither one of those were factors. Team just played better than us. You said it gets to you that you haven't won the second championship. What? Well, we've been back to six Final Fours, you know, and you kind of feel like, why can't we get over the hump, You know, and

there's been good reasons. There's in fact, there's been three Final Fours. We didn't get to that. I thought we were as good or better than some of the teams there. But it gets selfish, too, you know, like the day that we played Temple to go to a Final Four in 2001, John Cheney, one of my favorite guys, we won the game and I had to go down and shake his hand. And I kind of felt like he was America's team.

Everybody was pulling for him. I felt like the guy that shot Bambi, you know, I was like, God, I was apologizing for winning because I had so much respect for him. But at the same time, why we can't win that second one, you know? And so I've got to figure out what I'm doing wrong, you know? Your first one came so early in your head coaching career and you're in infinitely better coach now and had so much more success since then that it's

like interesting how that works. Well, you've heard the old adage, you know, players play the game. But I think the difference is I had an incredible leader in the team, Cleaves. I mean, he was our version of Magic Johnson. And I've had some good ones, Draymond Green and Denzel and and some other guys that have been very good leaders. I like people that I used to say drag people with them, but then that sounds like they're forcing

them. So we've come up with the term that gather people who can gather people and make them better than they really are. That's what a great leader does. So a player, coach, team is always better than a. Coach, coach, team. When you got a real good leader, you have a real shot. One quick favor before you leave, please consider giving the podcast a rating and review. Those go a long way in helping us reach new listeners. Thanks for your support.

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