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Illegal Argument

Mark Derricutt, Greg Amer and Richard Vowlessites.libsyn.com
Greg, Mark and Richard get together weekly and talk about things of interest in the Java community. Greg works for SimWorks (http://www.simworks.com) who specialize in mobile phone software. Mark works for SecureMX (www.smx.co.nz). Richard works for Blue Train Software (http://www.bluetrainsoftware.com)
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178: Java 22 Released! And I Am The Technical Debt

Last week, Greg and I had the pleasure of sitting down with Andres Almiray from Oracle to discuss this week's release of Java 22. I was hoping to get this episode out sooner but ended up fighting it out with a fever. Alert Notification https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4 Java 22 Released Tomorrow JDK 22 Release Notes: https://jdk.java.net/22/release-notes JavaFX Release Notes: https://github.com/openjdk/jfx/blob/master/doc-files/release-notes-22.md Does Java 22 Kill Build Tools...

Mar 25, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 178

New Year, Old Year? What Year!?!

It's been a long time (again) between recording/discussions, but finally, for the end of the year, we locked some time to record. Java 9 Outdated Ideas About Java - Azul | Better Java Performance, Superior Java Support Hidden gems in Java 19, Part 1: The not-so-hidden JEPs JDK 20: The new features in Java 20 | InfoWorld JDK 21: The new features in Java 21 | InfoWorld Java 21 to drop generational Shenandoah GC Why Your Choice of Java Virtual Machine (JVM) Matters More Than Ever - Azul | Better Ja...

Dec 29, 20231 hr 12 minSeason 1Ep. 177

176 - Better Late Than Never?

Non-tech Music Banter An Updated Look At Concert Merchandise Sales & Trends in 2022 Why Venues Take Merch Cuts The Taylor Swift Economy: The largest music tour in history is a hospitality phenomenon A litany of languages and their passing, software archaeology and the issues of adopting new languages? Clojure - (next Rich) JDK 21 to be released next month: JDK 21 Release Candidates & JVM Language Summit has a good overview. JEP 430: String Templates (Preview) Not a fan of the syntax, but...

Sep 04, 20231 hr 8 minEp. 176

175: 18 And Life...

Episode 175 - 18 And Life Until last week, I was going to open the show saying it's been a long time since we last recorded, but we slipped in an interview with the guys from plz.review - so that's not exactly true anymore. It has, however, still been a while since we've had a normal, full session of discussion and argument. Delayed: The publishing/editing of this episode was unfortunately delayed due to me finally catching Covid. plz.review Updates Github "integration" is available, we even had...

Aug 21, 20221 hr 14 minEp. 175

Episode 174: plz.review

Reddit Post: Improving on the GitHub code review comment experience : programming Blog Post: Bit Complete Blog: Improving on the GitHub code review comment experience | Bit Complete Inc. YouTube Introduction Video: Introduction to plz.review - YouTube Website: plz.review Guests: Dylan Trotter, Matt Schweitz It's been a while since recording, and as it happens, just before organizing the next episode, full of “discussion” on the recent Java 18, and forth-coming Java 19 release, I came across an r...

Jul 19, 202252 minEp. 174

173: The Red Zone

Catchups Happy New Year! Log4j Issues, fall out, ranty commentary And now PostgreSQL JDBC gets a 9.8 CVE : Java Stuff Java 18 set for March 22, 2022 The new features in Java 18 Mark Reinhold: There are no unresolved P1 bugs in build 36, so that is the first JDK 18 Release Candidate. Binaries available here, as usual: https://jdk.java.net/18/ Java 19 builds are already available MicroProfile 5 out Helidon 2.4.2 released Quarkus 2.7.1 released Continuations [GR-34749] Continuation support independ...

Feb 17, 202254 minEp. 173

172: Separating The Release From The Build

Once again it's been a long time coming between episodes, Auckland's recent extended Covid lock down and Mark's unscheduled and temporary relocation meant we missed out on discussion the release of Java 17 - and with Java 18 not all that far away, we thought it was about time to once again get our record on. Andres Almiray once again joins us to talk releases, and specifically the JReleaser tool. Table of Contents 00:00:11 Introduction00:00:59 Lockdowns and Freedoms00:03:45 Java 17 and 18 Releas...

Nov 15, 20211 hr 20 minEp. 172

171: Breaking (up) The Build

In an unprecedented show of activity - merely two weeks after the new years first episode (170) Mark and Greg are back, this time joined by Andres Almiray (Oracle) and Stephen Connolly (Cloudbees) to discuss all things build, modules, this weeks Java 16 release, and why Java programmers should take a look at the rust programming language. Hosts Mark Derricutt - @talios Greg Amer Guests Andres Almiray - @aalmiray Stephen Connolly - @connolly s Table of Contents 00:00:15 Intro 00:00:37 Guest Intro...

Mar 19, 20211 hr 45 minEp. 171

170: The UI is Broken!

Illegal Argument Episode 170 Mark and Greg emerge from their 2020/2021 Christmas/New Year breaks, and temporary Level 3 lock down to break their silence, attempt to remember how to podcast, and further the rumor that we only record an episode on the eve of a new Java release. Table of Contents 0:44 Holiday Periods 1:27 Java 16 Release 2:35 Standalone Nashorn 3:18 Native Script 6:28 R.I.P. Chrome 12:51 Module Systems 14:37 setProtected(true) 20:42 Java 16 Release (again) 25:00 Incubation vs Previ...

Mar 07, 20211 hr 21 min

Don't Tweet Non Truths

OpenJDK · GitHub Plans for optimal performance: why CircleCI is changing our pricing model - CircleCI Standalone Nashorn is coming for Java 15+ Jbang Property-based Testing in Java: Jqwik - a JUnit 5 Test Engine - My Not So Private Tech Life ABNF for TLDS tldlabel = ALPHA *61(ldh) ld ldh = ld / "-" ld = ALPHA / DIGIT ALPHA = %x41-5A / %x61-7A ; A-Z / a-z DIGIT = %x30-39 ; 0-9 HUMBLE BOOK BUNDLE: JAVA PROGRAMMING & MORE BY O'REILLY GitHub - baidu/braft: An industrial-grade C++ implementation ...

Nov 30, 20201 hr 55 min

The Greg Cast

Welcome to The Greg Cast The Virtual World Podcast On The Metal Podcast JavaZone 2020 Ron Pressler: Scalable Harmonious Concurrency for the Java Platform Virtual Threads Async / Await Why Continuations are Coming to Java Java Platform Retention Graal Based Frameworks JavaZone: Building a Distribution Pipeline Lua: Splitting a String Oracle Developer Live Java has moved to Github Java 15 is here, Nashorn is not instanceof Pattern Matching System.Logger Why The C Language Will Never Stop You Makin...

Sep 12, 20201 hr 18 min

The Joy of Java

After a lockdown/reopen period we're back with another argument. WARNING: The recording dropped out half way thru, and… creative edits were made. Your ears have been warned. Java 15 Ramp Down Second preview of Records Greg doesn't care for new JDKs whereas Mark wants to treat the JDK as "just a library/dependency" Microservices Reuse or no-reuse? Both Hellidon and Micronaut recently released 2.0 releases of their modern JVM web stacks HTTP Structured Headers Roy Fieldings Misappropriated REST Di...

Jul 02, 20201 hr 5 min

Technical Writing

What’s this? Another Illegal Argument episode already? And so close to the last one - it seems the shift to working from home and remote recording has already showed a payoff. During the last episode, I’d had it in my mind to discuss the need to improve our documentation, and general communication skills that developers, and development teams often overlook. More so now that many organisations are moving into distributed, remote teams - many of which may never return to normal “office life”. Wit...

May 17, 20201 hr 7 min

Illegal Argument - Episode 165

Welcome to the “Locked Down Dependencies” remote recorded using Squadcast.fm whilst both Greg and I are stuck in a national COVID-19 lockdown. Full links to topics discussed can be found in the shared bookmark folder on Raindrop, but during tonights episode we discuss: How lockdown is affecting us The Release of Java 14 Beyond Java 8 and the Java Module System - a discussion over two recent streams/videos from Nicolai Parlog on new features in Java 9-14, and issues with the module system. Maven ...

Apr 23, 20201 hr 10 min

Episode 164 - Moments before Isolation

Welcome to the first episode of 2020 - recorded just before all of Coronavirus Mania and then promptly the editing and publishing got unfortunately thrown to the sidelines for a week. This week (ha) Greg and I discuss the upcoming Java 14 release, along with C++20, and the granddaddy of functional programming - Miranda. Multiline String literals with Java Text Blocks Preview APIs in the Java Platform Java 14 Arrives with a Host of New Features JDK 14: The new features in Java 14 Stephen Colebour...

Mar 16, 20201 hr

163: The Continuation

Topics Fibre's are dead - long live "Virtual Threads" Undelimited continuations are not functions R2DBC 0.8.0 goes GA - Reactive database clients for Java RUST: Shipping a compiler every 6 weeks User reported stable regression s Bisecting Rust Compiler Regressions with cargo-bisect-rustc Microsoft: We're creating a new Rust-based programming language for secure coding https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/e5040i/microsoft_creating_new_rustbased_safe_language/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comme...

Dec 22, 201947 min

162. A Conservative JDK/Java Migration Path

CppCon 2018: Thoughts on a more powerful and simpler C++ (5 of N) - Herb Sutter Resources for writing modern Java Java 8 adoption process Conservative migration Build under new JDK Deploy on JDK THEN switch bytecode target to new JDK or... keep main build JDK target, move tests to target new JDK and use new features in non production code records Local records inside a method JEP 345: NUMA-Aware Memory Allocation for G1 Java switch - 4 wrongs don't make a right - Stephen Colebourne Jakarta EE 8:...

Nov 24, 201939 minEp. 162

Illegal Argument: Episode 161

00:00:00: Intro 00:01:25: Java 12 Is Upon Us 39 New Features (and APIs) in JDK 12 Mapping With Switch Expressions 00:12:31: Supporting Multiple JVM Versions In Libraries Apache Maven Compiler Plugin: Multi Release multi-release-jar-maven-plug Building Java 6-8 Libraries for JPMS in Gradle 00:34:20: Graal Micronaut on Graal Quarkus Microservices / Kubernetes 00:41:08: Autoscaling Is A Lie 00:50:49: Rust Is A Better C? Rust Is Not A Good C Replacement 00:58:29: "Dynamic Types" In Haskell Dynamic 0...

Apr 08, 20191 hr 6 min

Episode 160

00:00:00: Intro 00:02:37: Java 11 Is Here Java 11 Released 00:07:22: JEP 342: The JVM and Spectre 00:10:42: Chrome Blocking Add Blockers Google Chrome could soon kill off most ad-blocker extensions 00:15:06: Integrity In Tool Usage 00:20:33: Pharo Release Pharo 7 Released Monticella is a distributed, optimistic, concurrent, versioning system for Squeak and Pharo code. Using Monticello - YouTube Video Iceberg: Next generation source versioning for Pharo - YouTube Video 00:26:14: Java Migration An...

Mar 30, 20191 hr 2 min

Episode 159: The Forth

jpackage builds available building rpms, debs, MSI, and PKG installers too little too late? Have we all loved to kubernetes and orchestration systems. JDK 12 now in Rampdown and due in March c builds / versions c++ 98 to c++ 11 Faster Delivery of Large C/C Using Facebook Folly with Conan Fedora Looks To Build Firefox With Clang For Better Performance & Compilation Speed Gradle source dependencies Custom Apache Karaf Distributions D Lang What D got wrong D compilation is too slow and I am for...

Dec 29, 20181 hr 13 min

Episode 158: Java 11 was quietly released...

It’s been a long time between episodes, with illness, work, and rock’n’roll getting in the way - but after planning to get another episode out to discuss the recent Java 11 release, not even the arrival of Japanese doom band Church of Misery (my youtube video and photos/review ) was going to stop Greg and I from getting our rant on…. Intro to Episode 158 General Java Helidon - new NON JEE webstack from Oracle A 30MB native image with Helidon to run REST based microservices Helidon Takes Flight M...

Oct 17, 20181 hr 2 min

Episode 157: The Return of The Richard

Stuck In A Rut... Java Mission Control Open Sourced - Flight Recorder JEP Continuous Delivery Kubernetes Istio No more Apache Maven Releases - only SNAPSHOTs, into Docker images. Why scale? Maven Plugins and compile time code generation Jepsen analysis of Hazelcast 3.8.3 Why I’m leaving open source...

May 16, 20181 hr 41 min

Episode 156 - Java 10 is the new Java 2

It may have just clocked into April, but the first Illegal Argument of the year is finally here, much delayed, and extra long in it’s twists and turns of… well, let’s face it - you know it would be build didn’t you…. JEP-223 - New Version-String Scheme Redfin Video on converting from Maven to Bazel (YouTube link) IntelliJ Bazel Plugin/Tooling Issues with Multiple Dependency Versions with Bazel Mark: My suspicion is the issue came from automatically generating bazel WORKSPACE/BUILD files from Mav...

Apr 30, 20181 hr 47 min

155: The End of the Year was demarcated by Annotations.

For an ostensibly forthrightly podcast, we only managed 10 episodes this year, of which one was a mini-solo cast from Mark, too many holidays and rock concerts getting in the way of recording. Hopefully we can be more organised in 2019! The years podcasts: 145: Java 9 and The Case of the Automatic Module 146: Emanuele Ziglioli and DukeScript 147: The NO Vote 148: Project Glass Tile 149: null == 400 150: Breaching The Summit 151: I’m A Teapot 152: XML Beware 153: Strutting Like A Cowboy 154: Don’...

Dec 18, 201759 min

154: Don't Run Into Walls

Broken builds, continuous integration, feature flags and deprecations? Maven Release And Sub-Directories - from Richard Vowles The Future is Now by Rachel White - Grinders and Biohacking Facebook Flow - Static Analyser for Javascript Java 10 builds are available Using JDK 10’s Local Variable Type Inference With jOOQ...

Nov 23, 20171 hr 5 min

153: Strutting Like A Cowboy

Severe security vulnerability found in Apache Struts using lgtm.com (CVE-2017-9805) XML? Be cautious! The Backdoor Threat Java News Moving Java Forward - 6 month release cycle, breaking changes. 3 yearly LTS versions Java 9 will NOT be an LTS release Module Hell - java.ee not in base ( easy to fix , but ack ) O'Reily Java 9 Modularity published Use Stream API simpler ( or don't use it at all ) Kevlin Henny JavaZone talk/video: Paradigms Lost, Paradigms Regained: Programming with Objects and Func...

Sep 17, 20171 hr 19 min

152: XML Beware

A short minisode on Apache Struts, XML deserialisation attacks, and Equifax. XML? Be cautious! Severe security vulnerability found in Apache Struts using lgtm.com (CVE-2017-9805) CVE-2017-9805: Analysis of Apache Struts RCE Vulnerability in REST Plugin Apache Struts Statement on Equifax Security Breach Apache Struts Security Bulletins OWASP Dependency Check struts-pwn - an exploit tester Remotely Exploitable Java Zero Day Exploits through Deserialization (2015 alert for Apache Commons Collection...

Sep 10, 20179 min

151: I'm A Teapot

Save 418 - I was hoping to actually shift the discussion of “Save 418” more towards the importance of specifications, and how ‘in the old days’ protocols/specs were king, as everything was reused and distributed - but now, it’s “the Twitter API” or “the Facebook API” — still, we managed an somewhat interesting discussion over the broadening of specification definitions. Richardson Maturity Model 420: Enhance Your Calm application/problem+json - HTTP/MediaType Driven API error handling Resource a...

Aug 27, 20171 hr 14 minEp. 151

150: Breaching the Summit

Initially tonight’s episode was going to be called “The Patch Is All” (guess whose been enjoying the new season of Killjoys?) — with a discussion about pre code-review practises, however with Peter’s absence, the discussion centred mostly around the 2017 Java Language Summit which was taking place around the recording period. Upcoming Events DevOpsDays Auckland - 3/4th October Pacific C++ - 26/27th October in Christchurch, NZ JVM Topics Java 8u144 Released - release notes - download New Java Sty...

Aug 04, 20171 hr 41 min

Episode 149 - null == 400;

Project Valhalla Value Types give up value identity JEP 169: Value Object specification JEP 218: Generics over Primitive Types Value Types in the JVM - Scaladays 2015 talk ( Youtube, 48 minutes ) Whats in JDK9? Is SpringBoot/Grails good for Prototyping only? startups: fire your dev teams A Stronger Dart for everyone… Takari Maven-Wrapper Dr Deprecator - Interview with Stuart Marks New Java 9 tool: jdeprscan Batman WAT Java BigInteger was made for RSA cryptography Rust’s std::option type DZone Se...

Jul 09, 20171 hr 20 min
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