It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Nisson with aw Fanha. This is Kelson and this is Alex and yeah, let's get right into the talk. We have some more folks with us today that will be introducing shortly, but I want to start things off with talking about Collision. We did not have a Collision last week, so this week was by default better than the last episode. Yeah, yeah, better rating just mathematically. So yeah, I think you know, we had talked about a few
things. I think Kelson, you said you're gonna sleep or not watch Brian Danielson versus Junakiyama. I thought this match of the you know, different older Japanese guys that they brought in, Eugenagatta, uh, even Mineral Suzuki, I thought Ju Nakiyama was kind of my favorite of of the Japanese wrestlers that they brought in, and I thought him and Brian Danielson put on a really
great match and it had a really great ending. In my opinion, that made me a lot more excited for Eddie Kingston versus Brian Danielson than I was going into Collision. Well, you're saying Akayama was not just a grandpa. He was a great grandpa. Oh God, that was bad that that just didn't sound good. It sounded good when I thought of it, but it didn't sound good what I said, Well, what's the opposite? He was
like a father? He was he was a father moving back in age because ju Nakaiyami, he he moves like a guy that hasn't had a lot of issues, like like when Minoral Suzuki's moving around or yuj Nagada, like they seem like old guys. And I thought like Junakayama seemed kind of limberate. He was moving quick, so that was kind of a nice change. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Anyone else want to chime in on this match? Sutton, You're here with us tonight and I'm wondering what you thought
about it. I thought it was a good match. I don't know. I I just he all the guys that come in from Japan, the knew japan guys, whether it be Minor Susuki or any of those guys, it's such a they do things so different there that they're always gonna look weird to me in the ring. In what you see in American wrestling, it's just they're they're just it's always so different. So I yeah, I liked it. I have never seen him before Saturday, but I thought he was I
really enjoyed that match. I thought it was a really good match. Mm hmm. Yeah, And what did you think of the batch? I thought it was really good. I like a lot of the Japanese wrestlers Japanese wrestling, so I enjoyed seeing him. Unlike a lot of people, I'm not a big Danielson fan, but overall, I thought the match was really good. I enjoyed it. Yeah, Like I think, when Danielson's good,
and when he has a good opponent, it's good. But yeah, when when he's with someone that I'm not so interested in, I do find him kind of boring sometimes. Yeah, man, that's fair enough. I mean, if you watch it the you know you're watching it to enjoy the wrestling, and if you're not watching somebody that you're not particularly enjoying, there's no
sense to watching it. And one thing that I loved was the promo that Danielson did before the match where he was making fun of Eddie Kingston and how he cuts promos like saying, oh blah blah, blah, the boom, mic, the light. Yeah, why what are you even doing here? Well, let's go to mkay. What were your thoughts on this? Uh, this match, buddy, I honestly don't get a chance to what. I forget it's gone. I wish it was a better time. I usually
don't pay attention to the Japanese wrestler. I don't know much of him, so I don't pay attention to him. It has to be a done good match for me to catch up on. I just wasn't interested in that match at all. Yeah, you know, Alex had alluded to this. I predicted that I would fall asleep before this match even started. I had no interest in this match whatsoever. Be honest with you, I did uh le mean, I AAW's where Japanese wrestlers come to lose, especially old Japanese wrestlers.
But anyway, so I just turned off the TV before this even started, and I caught it on YouTube, which MK, that's a good thing to do because they do have the highlights at least of the matches. They can catch up on All Collision on YouTube on the All the Wrestling's YouTube, and you can. They usually post it the same night you know, so, you could actually watch the two hour Collision show every match of worth well that they deem them worthy. It's probably a twenty five minutes you know,
so, and you get the gist of things. But anyway, yeah, look, my overall thoughts on Collision. I love the Sammy and Hobbs match. I mean, other than the fact that aw blew their entire budget for tables in a fifteen minute match. They can't buy any more tables now for the next two quarters of this year. But after that match, it was no sorry, yeah yeah, that that was my next thing I wanted to talk about was my favorite match of Collision, and that was by far the
Sammy Guvara Powerhouse Hobs match. And I think I counted seven tables that were used in that match. It was insane they all. I thought they used spot. I might have missed a couple though. Yeah, I counted five, But then I thought there was two that that were broken when I wasn't looking, when I had my head turned, so they used to they used one twice or two twice. Okay, I can't do this new math.
Yeah yeah they broke yeah, yeah, there was four tables used in two spot to two per spot that was that was a little bit of a board on the on the the tables, I think, just a little bit. Yeah, but sud, did you have any other matches that you thought were
better than the Cobbs and send Me guvar match? No? Really, if you took every other match out and just left it save me and Hobbs and then uh Danielson in and you and you would have had a perfectly good card, because uh, I did like Okay, I will say that the Lady Ice is always they call her. Is that what her name is? Lady Frost. I did like her match. I guess that was the other match because that match was pretty decent from her. I like her a lot.
I'm kind of over the Tony Storm thing. She's I get it, but it's just I don't know, I just it's just not working for me. But I did like thought she was really good at what she was doing. What about anybody else have any matches that did you guys think that that the Sevin Gavara and Powerhouse Obs match was the best match in the night? If not? Was there another match he thinks stood out that was a Malachi Black Matt Were you asking how was it, I would say, Yeah, it
didn't do anything for me. And I used to be before Malachi Black stopped wrestling singles matches, he was like my favorite wrestler, and yeah, it's just not exciting for me seeing him face Brian Heath because you know, Brian Heith's gonna lose. The match was just a little bit boring for me. Yeah, my match, well, Malachi, how do I put this? Brian Keith wasn't very good and neither was Malachi. I don't know whether it was a lack of chemistry or a lack of athleticism, one of both parts,
you know, coming back from injuries whatnot. It just was it kind of kind of plotted, you know, it was slow and and meticulous match net Did you think that? I mean, do you agree with that? Yeah? I wasn't that interested in it, and I like Malachi Black a lot, but it just it didn't have any flair to it. It just seemed very boring, almost like a time filler. They didn't have a lot of chemistry. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't enjoy it. Yeah,
I'm with you. If I wanted to see Malachi Black wrestler Bran Heath, I want to see him just beat Brian Heath in like two minutes. I just want to see do his greatest hits. I think Blakeith is more of an r O each would be better off in r O each because he just puts me. He just puts me in mind of what someone from rh would be, you know what I mean. Well, considering that he's never won an AAW singles match, he definitely is doing better at r OH anyway.
Yeah, so Alex, let's let's move on from collision. What do you want to talk about next? Yeah? The next thing I wanted to talk about was so we I don't know if it's been officially announced by AEW, but we have confirmation that Forbidden Door three is going to be taking place at Arthur ash Stadium this year. Yes. I think we also at least rumblings that not only will New Japan be involved, but also CML we've seen there partnering with AW. Yes, so it's interesting. I think there's two there's
two interesting parts about Forbidden Door this year. One part is that probably the two biggest names from New Japan are now members of the AW are about to be members of the AW roster. Okada and will Osprey, So that kind of takes away two of the biggest matches for the Forbidden Door pay per view. So yeah, I don't know if anyone else has any predictions for what a big interesting match. I know, net I think you said you like Japanese wrestling, so I wonder if you have any thoughts. I don't know
what they're gonna do. I've been wondering that since AW got Okada, exactly what direction they were going to go in with forbid in Door. I'm I have no idea. I'm I'm excited to see it, but I don't I don't know, Yeah, I mean, sorry, don't got so yeah, one thing that I noticed with like, so Kada left and there's kind of rumblings that he didn't leave in the right way because he didn't he won basically a multi man tag match. He didn't end up putting anyone over on his
way out of the door. So I wonder if that is a way to set up him fighting one of the younger guys from New Japan that's like not as established in Okata representing AW now and he's fighting a New Japan guy. So I thought that's one angle that I can imagine seeing so New Japan has has new additions? Do they not nick name it? Oh? Yeah it is there? And Jack Perry, Yeah, I think that's a concept.
And who they would who? I'm hoping that the MLLL will bring some people in a note I thought I seen where the King goes hurt, but he's with Pop anyway. The guy who thought that the that's keep a star who thought mostully I think will be a good match with somebody I don't know who put them with. But I'm hoping they bring it because I remember the kid
loving watching that style. So hopefully they bring a little bit. But I've never really paid attention to Forbidden Door, But if they get more loops of people in there, I might take a look at it. Yeah, and yes we won't. Alex and I decided on a previous podcast that, uh, we want to have et Cera's baby. Oh wow. The one thing that about one thing that worries me about Forbidden Door is is New Japan going
to survive to Forbidden Door? Because with them having so many issues within their company now, I don't know, I don't know how that's gonna you know what I mean? They lost to Kata they lost Osprey, there's talk of I don't even think I've heard talk that Jack Zaber Junior is not going to be there very often. Then I hear he's gonna be either gonna build it around. So I think it's all gonna come down to for the forbidden door
that they made up. You're right, I don't really know. You know, I don't watch enough of Japanese wrestling outside of what they do in a w Yeah, you know, I can't say, well, you know, you've got this guy, this guy, and this guy. It's just one of those things where they're they're you know, you got the chance for like the original Bullet Club to come over and have problems with Boot Club Gold. You could have that kind of an angle in there is the Jack Perry one.
Is that true that he is there? Or is this an excursion kind of thing that they're working? You know what, I think it's work because uh, nobody's talking about it right Let me ask. Let me ask a question to you, Saw, and then I want MK and NET to also tackle this question. Of course, Alex too. I previously said, and it's the truth. Nobody could argue this that forbidden Doors where Japanese wrestlers come
to lose to AW wrestlers. Down't they bringing CMML wrestlers. I kind of would look forward to seeing a match between two CMML guys and two New Japan guys and give a w guys a rest. Let's have a match that we literally don't know who's going to win this thing? Would I think that would be I think that would be a cool idea. But then again, you Yo and I both know that's not what it's about. You know, that's what would be great to see, But it's about getting and I don't know,
it would be awesome to see something like that. Maybe throw in an extra like one match between say Okata and some young kid coming from New Japan, or offspring and some kid coming from New Japan or CMMLMML. But I you know, it would be great to see it that way, but we just never probably going to get that. I just say CMML CMLL fast that way. If I mess up, nobody realizes it. Net. I mean, what did you think about that idea? Would you like to see CMLL
fight matches against New Japan? I would? I think it's a good idea. It's a good opportunity. I don't think it can hurt. I mean, you know, it's it's more for everybody. It's it's more wrestling for everyone. So I think it would be pretty nice. Yeah. Well, you know, here's the problem though. And I can't remember who said it. It was either Sutton or MK, but they said that they're not interested because they don't really are not really familiar with New Japan. Was a one
if you just said that, or both of you that said that. Oh I didn't I like it all. I mean, for me, anything that happened. I used to be a giant the other company SPAN until they started screwing that up. And this is kind of to me, it's like what it was when WCW started. I love AW. I watch everything that has to do with AW. My son watches all the New Japan stuff. He stays up till late at night to watch the Super Cups and all the stuff they do. I usually don't have time to watch that stuff. I would.
I think the first one I watched was I watched it the second year of AW when it was during the pandemic. I watched the one in the Tokyo Dome that year myself. Yeah, Russell Kingdom. That's the first one I really watched. I knew who you know, everybody knows growing up, you know what New Japan is, but you don't see anybody, right if I had the opportunity, but I just don't. So okay, So you were the one that said so you're not familiar with Japan, then right?
Yes. You know. One thing I've said the aw doesn't do very well is introduce this to people and little just little vignettes of you know, people before they come out would be great. But you know, I would love to see black tourists versus Okata, just different types of people. I remember growing up and watching Ultimate Dragons versus some of the luca ly bred people and that was fun to watch. Just different styles clashing and turning out how to
do matches, and uh, that excites me. I think the main thing for the first Forbidden Doors was just to get them for the rest was known, and it should be great just to have different matches of different people and not always have the same winner. Yeah, and one last thing about Forbidden Door. We do have John Moxley competing for the New Japan title, the
heavyweight title at the Chicago show. That they're doing, so there is a small chance that John Moxley actually walks into Forbidden Door three as the new Japan Champion to kind of set up them taking their title back. So I just thought that's maybe the last interesting angle for Forbidden Door three. Yeah, you know what if I thought that somebody from New Japan could actually win a meaningful
match and Forbidden Door and actually probably by Forbid Door. But I have not purchased or some for Britten Door yet, and I do not feel like I've missed anything. I could see great wrestling matches on regular TV from AW. I don't need to buy a pay per view to see a meaningless but great
match. Yeah, fair enough, it's not continuing the AW storylines and developing that we've had a thing in a past where we've talked about Forbidden Door where we consider some of us do not all by far, not all, but some of us have said that Forbidden Door is not only were Japanese wrestlers cut the lose to AW wrestlers, but it's the great momentum killer of AW. Yeah, I think you know, I liked Forbidden Door two more than Forbidden Door one, But I just I like the idea that we have this kind
of weird thing where we get these cross promotional matches. I agree that that's kind of kill things, but I enjoy it. I'm happy, and I hope they keep doing it year to year. I guess it's not for everyone, but I think it probably brings in some other fans to make up for the I heard AW fans that aren't following. Right. Well, I think it's a dream come true. You know, we've grown up. When you had WCWAWW, you wanted to have them go against each other. It never
happened, never was gonna happen. But now you actually have it where someday, you never know, with things that are going on in any other company, you know what I mean, there could be a time when that's included too. Yeah, but sut Sutton, let me break in there, because what you just said was really really true. When WWE and WCW were going it going against each other, you wanted to see them go against each other, right, you know, literally in the ring. Well, guess what
happened. WWE bought WCW and they did go against each other, and WWE absolutely squashed every single thing that WCW had Okay, right, and that's the way I look for bid door. And I'm gonna tell you another thing. When wc W was purchased by WWE, I immediately started watching w W because I was a w WCW fan. When I saw what WW was doing to WCW, I stopped watching wrestling for fifteen years. Yeah, I didn't watch
it for Yeah, I didn't watch it either. I Mean. The thing that's different about that that is now compared to what it would have been done is Tony Caughton is he's so much different than Vince was. Vince was an
asshole. Sorry he was, and he always would have been. And what he did was because he didn't know that he If you sit back and think about what could have been had they actually gave WCW WWE own show, give it its own show and let it go, well, it could have been he could have had They could have conquered everything because you could have still had their brand. He had a brand split, you know what I mean. But they didn't do that because Vince's problem was you were never I don't care
who it was when he was in charge. If his man ain't win and it ain't doing it, period in the story, right, because that's why I'll be bringing that. You wanted to say something, go ahead, Oh no, I was just saying, Kelson. That happened to me when I
watched w CW and it was destroyed. I stopped watching wrestling for a long time, and when a w came along, I was so hopeful that I would see the wrestling that I had loved, and I've seen it so far, and that's why I'm glad to see a lot of the Japanese wrestlers, a lot of the Lucha doors because it's wrestling and it's it's just great.
It's great to see it this way. So yeah, yeah, yeah, And in defense of the cross promotion stuff like yes, Ocata came to a w and lost to Brad Danielson, but then later Brian Danielson went to New Japan and lost to Okada. So it is a lot more give and take than yeah, it's given, give or taken take. It's not give and take, you know, but it's you know, you get my wrestler will go to Japan and lose to your guy. Your wrestler comes to America and
loses to our guy. Yeah, but if they do that for two years straight. I'm sorry it's boring. Well, we also had Sonata beat Jungle Boy. You know, the Japanese guys did win matches at the show, the big ones. Yeah, they're not gonna win the AW title, and and that would be kind of cool if that did happen. Yeah, that's what I want to see. I want to see matches, meaningful matches in doubt, that's all. Yea, you know there's not so Alex. What's
next on the agenda for this evening? Yeah, but before we get into the Dynamite match, the singular match that's been announced, I think, I mean there's two, there's two pretty big things happening on this Dynamite episode. But the biggest thing in my mind is it is Sting's final Dynamite, well at least his final Dynamite as an active wrestler. I think Tony Kahn's hinted at thing. You know, he might show up again in the future, not wrestling, but he's still part of the AW family going forward. But
yeah, this is going to be Sting's last match or last Dynamite. And I know we were speculating on Sting the road to Revolution. We've seen him bring in Rick Flair already. I think we've also heard rumors that Lex Luger will be appearing at the Revolution event or Lex Luger's talked about it. So yeah, I guess I'm one. I have a couple of names I wrote down, But uh, Natt, do you I'll put you on the spot.
Do you have any ideas of who who else might we see? And I know you're a WCW fan, so you might have some good ones. Oh, I don't know. I you know, I haven't thought about it because I have wanted to be surprised. I almost feel like a little kid again waiting for Saturday Morning Wrestling, and I have really wanted to be shocked and surprised at who is going to come to Sting's final match, and also which thing are we going to see? I've been wondering that too, So
I don't know. Any's made quite a few friends in the in the wrestling business, and I don't know who's gonna show up. I hope everyone, honestly, So, Nat, do you have any predictions of what thing we're gonna see? Is it going to be the old Surfers thing? I was hoping for the Surfers thing. Honestly, I was hoping that Sting would kind
of throw it back to his old fans. A couple of my friends were saying that they think it's gonna be jokers thing, But I'm hoping that he does the real throwback to to the beginnings of I would be of it. Hm, that would be awesome. Yeah, I have a spicy prediction about that. But let's go to m K. I want to hear what MK's thoughts are. Who do you think that may show up for Sting's final match
to support him. The problem is a lot of his friends are tub mainstays right now like Booker t I would and and Nasal state he can't go. Uh. But I would really love for Mick Foley to show up. Those who have a history the Steiner brothers have a history with him. Uh, just name names like that. I've heard names battered around like Mudha since he was part of his retirement. I could see mooda show, you know. But as for Sting coming out, we we know he's not gonna do blonde
hair or anything for it. But I could see, you know, the black and white surfer Sting doing the woo's and the different maybe colorful tights, you know, like we seem a little bit in uh in TNA when he was in there for a little bit. But this is big for me because I grew up as a little stinger. I watched him a surfer Sting ninety seven and stuff. When he croasting, I had him as a birthday cake. Uh. I've a little singer for my whole, nearly half my life.
So I enjoy watching him and like another person said, I really will be a kid again watching it. I hope there is some interference in both with I hope they do. I would really love for the rest, if not, stay in their seats a little bit and have some fun with the match and do some stuff. I hope they don't do the classic flare turning on sting angle, but but it seems like after Tulsa they may. I don't know what they're doing with that either, but I just love stinging,
so it's gonna be an event for me. Well, Sultan, what do
you? What are your thoughts on this, buddy? I I kind of agree with christ m m K. Yes, yeah, okay, I kind of agree with him that you're probably not going to get to see the circus thing unless there is a way that they could do that, and because there is a Texas Tornado match, they could start him out in the sting current thing and then through camera tricks or whatever you want to call it, however they want to do it, they could progress him back if they wanted to.
And then you wouldn't play anything past these guys because they want to make this the most memorable thing that could happen. As for the people who come, h I figure you'll see lex. I figure you'll see uh maybe, I'm pretty sure you'll see Muda. Even if they don't announce him, he'll be there. I mean Muda. He was there for Muda, so I'm assuming Muda is going to be there when it comes to the Rick Flair thing. I don't. We had this discussion the other day, Kelson and I
don't. I don't. I don't. I just don't see them. I don't see them losing that them titles tomorrow or Sunday. I see them keeping the titles and then him appearing because when you're I know this is going to be his last Dynamite tomorrow night, but it's not his retirement yet, So you wouldn't want to have like everybody come out and say farewell to him.
So I seen him coming out on the following week before Big you know, the week before Big Business, and having him say his goodbyes and the ring to everybody and then either relinquishing the titles or picking a partner for Darby. That's just how I see it going. All right, Well, we will be talking about our final Revolution predictions on All He Talk tomorrow night at the podcast. I have a spicy prediction though, for what's going to happen with
the guest. Alex has brought up Surfer Sting. I do believe that Surfer Sting is going to show up at Revolution. But it's not going to be our retiring Sting. It's going to be his younger son. He's gonna he's gonna come out, and I do believe I would be surprised if either Rick Flair or somebody like that does turn on Sting and Sting song. Surfer Sting comes out and takes care of him and that's it. Just a stork little
tribute to Surfer Sting, and that's the way they could do it. And it would make sense that his son does look a lot like he did when he was younger, you know, like he did. Yeah, that's what I never thought about that, you know, go ahead, go ahead that
No, I think that's a really that's a good idea. And well, while we're talking about this, when our glorious EVPs attacked Sting's son, I said to myself, this sets up that long term storytelling that I know and love because there can be a point down the road somewhere where sting sons and the EVPs actually have matches and actually have a feud with each other. So what better time than you know, Stingh's retirement to kind of kick that off
and you're not at the stage for it. Yeah, not the squasher idea, net. But they did have an our interview with Darby Allen. They'll take this for what it is because it could be a swerve, as most things in wrestling tend to be. But Darbiella did state the recent interview that Sting's sons have absolutely no interest in professional wrestling. Yeah, I don't believe that. And to add to her idea, you could have one do surface
thing and one do Crowsting. That's that's also true, you know, because they both look liking they both could pose as a so you do with that. That's a great idea. That's a that's great right there. That would really be It's gonna be big. I could see the Bucks messing with Sting and dressing up as Sting clones as well, and they look so I could see them dressing up in some sort to mock him and stuff. Uh, you know, I thought that Sting was going to lose, but when the
Tulsa the promo, he did a Tulsa. I can't definitely say that now because now they've involved the siblings and the kids and stuff. So I really feel like, I don't know, it's a toss up. I don't know how they're gonna do it. Maybe they have have another tag tag team tournament and stuff. I don't really want to see the young Bucks with the titles, right, Yeah. I don't think anybody else does either, And honestly, I don't think that's the whole I don't think that's the plan, don't.
Yeah, I don't think so it's going to be very interesting. I think that the Bucks are gonna win. But anyway, Alex, did you actually I can't remember did you? Did you? But take this with a great assault because I suck at making predictions anyway, Alex did you did you make your Yeah, I had two people and they were both mentioned. I had Great Mooda because of the retirement stuff, like he's already been involved with
his retirement. And I had McK foley as well, because he was involved with staying not only way back in the day in w c W as Cactus Jack and we've also and they had some matches in TNA, I believe. And I don't know if McK foley's ever been part of a W at all in the past, but yeah, I you know, it might be establishing
him as somebody we might see a little bit more so. Yeah, to the fact that he wants to wrestle a retirement match for sixtieth sixtieth birthday match, I think is what he said, and he doesn't want it to be
in WW well, I would think way out. Just think if this happened, what if they had to work like a video package with guys like you know, Buff bag Well and Disco Inferno and Kevin Nash, And what about if they had Triple H or somebody like that from wwe actually make a statement and break down that stupid barrier that frankly, I think that would be the best thing to do, a classy thing to do, and then aaw can reciprocate down the line, you know, for WWE and have some of their
guys participate in just a simple, you know, video package. I would not has done that. I think in the past they've let their wrestlers, particular certain on certain documentaries they have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've They've done it with a lot of them for their their things, and and that's of this before. That's why I was saying we were talking about the forbidden or earlier, there's gonna be a day when that happens. It just
is gonna happen. If if Trip staysn't in charge, or if some other fallout comes out of it and somebody else can, it's eventually going to happen because it makes it just makes too much. Everybody talks about how wrestling is about the money. That's money. You ain't making more money than that, you know what I mean. I mean, you listen to you listened to interviews with a w w WE wrestlers, and none of them are saying that they hate the other company. All. The most thing they say is that
there now that there's more jobs, more wrestlers can eat. Tribalism does not exist among the wrestlers, or it exists among the fans. Now, we're a WAN, so we're AW specific, but that doesn't mean that we don't have AW fans that watch WWE, and it certainly doesn't mean that we look down upon AWW. What it means is that we are laser focused on AAW There are plenty of other places that are laser focused on WWE, CMLL,
New Japan, stardom, you name it, there's places for it. We're just a place for AW where the AW fan of tribalism has no place in the community. And I think that, you know, we have to kind of walk a fine line between tribalism and just being AW fans. It's kind of sometimes hard to discern between the two, you know, but you can be a fan of wrestling. You don't have to be a fan of one company. It's just so hardens Like I said, that we are AW fanom
that's what we are. So aw Unfortunately, there are way too many people that still have that mindset. I mean, you see it every day. There are a lot of people that just have that mindset where if it's not WWE, it sucks. If it's not AW it sucks. If it's not New Japan, it sucks. And you're gonna have that for a long time because they see that as for they perceived that's the way it is for the people in the and that comes a lot from what Vince was like, Yes,
it certain that WWE fans hated everybody. If it wasn't WE, it didn't matter, and that's gonna take a lot longer for it to go. Wait and then you know what I mean. Well, w CW didn't help with that either though, because they did a lot of stuff you know, but do so throwing the belt of the Trash, the WW Belt the Trash live on TV. WD w CW were given spoilers when they were taping smack Down w CW. I love WCW, but they did some shady stuff.
But anyway, Alex, I know you're chomping at the bit to get it to the match preview for Dynamite. Yeah, okay, so we got Eddie Kingston teaming up with FTR versus the Blackpool Combat Club. I love FTR. I don't hate Eddie Kingston like some other co hosts of this podcast and Blackpool Combat Club, I can kind of take it or leave it. I didn't. I wasn't super thrilled with the FTR, Blackpool Combat Club Last Dynamite, but I'm intrigued by this match. I think Eddie Kingston and FTR are kind
of a weird pairing. I feel like Eddie Kingston may not be a fan of FTR, so yeah, I'm just I'm mostly intrigued by how they work together as a team and just kind of what the vibes are, right, Yeah, I guess be weird. Oh and it'll be an hour and a half. They still got to get fifteen minutes for well Osprey, fifteen minutes for staying well. You know they're gonna throw like Wardlow against you know, some local talent. Then they're gonna have Red Velvet probably against I don't know,
Queen Amanada again. You know, it's tough on these go home those, you know, it's essentially Dynamite Collision this week or go home shows, and it's tough going into a pay per view. But nett uh, what do you think about this match? You excited for this match? For which one the only one alread Eddie Kingston against the Black Bull Comeback Club that I guess that fell off a chair. We'll go back to that if h let's okay, you there, Yeah, I'm here. I'm sorry, I love
Okay. So what do you think about this match? Well? I am a big Eddie Kingston fan, so I think I'm I'm choking. I'm choking. Wait a second, Okay, I bet I don't. I don't know, I am. I can take it or leave it, though, I mean f TR is angry, upset, and I'm I don't know. They're always yeah, well sometimes they have a little a little kindness and a little soft spot. They're talking about, you know, fighting like eight year old
girls. You know, they get all stuff. But yeah, you know, but after Revolver, Eddie Kickson's not known for being you know, like the most mild mannered personal world and Black Book Compa Club's always pissed off. Yeah, yeah, I don't know though it mm hmm. It doesn't seem like they're I don't know, like they're really really fired up. To me, it just seems like everybody's kind of mad. Maybe they'll get really mad at this match and this will be you know, like the powder keg I
don't know. M Yeah, okay, what are you thinking about this match here? I am I do not like Eddie Kingston really. In my opinion, f TR has become a catch all. They've had you know this, Daniel Garcias with them, and then they have a match with uh now, Eddie Kingston. They've had one with Adam Copeland. I just think them become
a catch off for all different people to work with. I'm I don't mind the Blackpool Combat Club, but I really do feel like they need to work with some different people or add some people or something to make them less less still. But Eddie Kingston, to me, I was disappointed that he won the Continental Classic. I was hoping someone else would win. I'm thinking hopefully the pay per view that that that that that belt will get taken off of
by Brian Danielson. But I just I'm not interested in that match at all. I like FTR as a tag team. I was at Tulsa and that match was I thought was pretty good and the crowd liked it. I didn't like the ending necessarily, but uh, you know, Eddie kicks up with anybody is a snoozer for me. So well, Elf, I mean, yeah, all of sudden, What are your thoughts on this match? Uh? You know what. To me, it just seemed like it it's thrown
together. It doesn't make any sense. I get what they're doing for because it is to go home showing. It puts the combatants for the two matches together. But honestly, when they first started, when I first thought they were gonna do it, I thought it was gonna be with with Run. I thought it would be him an f TR because Eddie really didn't have anything involved in it. What I mean, he was inside, he was sitting on the side and he was watching a match, but he didn't get messed
up in it. It was FTR and Ryland or whatever name is. And that's what I thought it was gonna be. And they said, Adie Kingston, I'm like, okay, I get it. So you know we're gonna see We're gonna see Moxley versus FTR, and then uh Claudia versus FTR, and it's gonna be Daniel Cin and Eddi and they're gonna beat the crap out of each other for a bit, and it's gonna be one guy does one move then the next day and it's just gonna be the same thing again.
To me, it really is a waste of time to do that kind of a match, especially, you know, when it's everybody knows what's gonna happen. They're probably gonna have the Blackpool called back Club beat somebody from str and it just goes on. I I don't know. It's to me, it's not really gonna make or break the show. It could if they didn't have it, you know, if they had some other show, if they had some other matches announced, it might make it more interesting, but as of
right now, that's the only match we got. Yeah, Alex, I mean, what are your thoughts. I'll I have something that I want to say specifically about this, But yeah, I'm happy to see FTR wrestle at all. I just love FTR, so put him out there with anyone, I'm happy. And I just like the weird matchup of Eddie Kingston and FTR. I don't know if he's actually going to get along with them. I
could see him or them, you know, fighting with each other. So yeah, I think it's it's kind of a nothing match, because yeah, it is just a match to set up the pay per view, But I think it'll be fun, more fun than some of the other things that they could throw out there. Yeah, well this is to come a little bit out of left field, but I promise that there is a point related to this match. Did you guys see the backstage picture of QT Marshall at Collision
from last week? Yeah, the guy looks like he's chiseled out of granite. Now he has done a completely different change. I can't remember who's training him, but he is going through extensive training and this same trainer is working with Eddie Kingston. CA Yeah much for a w dark wrestler. Yeah,
so anyway, he is training Eddie Kingston. So hopefully, uh, over the next several months, Eddie Kingston will get you know, some agility and muscle and wrestling ability and be able to actually go out there and perform. So but my opinion on this is the same opinion I have, you know, frankly and every Eddie Kingston match ever, as soon as Eddie Kingston's little music hits when he comes to the ring, the TV gets a nice channel
change. But I do pay attention to the live chat because because it's kind of funny saying, oh, a chop, another chop, another chop, another chop. Imagine that chops from Eddie Kingston, who do and then a surprise roll up win And then I know, once the count of three has happened, I could turn a TV back onto AW would watch. So there you go. Question, is it what is it that so many people,
some of you all included, have against Eddie Kingston Kelson? I know with you, but what is it that you all don't like about Eddie Kingston? Well, I will say what I will go to the others, but I will say my part because it's very simple. I watch AW primarily for the wrestling, and Eddie Kingston can't wrestle period. Yeah, And I like Eddie Kingston like I don't love him. I was happy to see him win the turn Man. I wanted him to win more than Danielson or Moxley. But
I kind of like Eddie is like an underdog a little bit more. I don't hate his chops because I feel like, if you're gonna chop, you should hit guys hard, and he does hit guys very hard. Have you seen the machine gun chops? The machine gun chops not included. I think that's just yeah, Eddie Kingston is obsessed with nineties Japanese wrestling Junaki Yama like Masawa Kobashi, so he kind of copies that stuff, and I don't really
love that. But I think Eddie Kingston as a wrestlers maybe not my favorite, but I think he's good, and I think he's a great character, and I think he cuts great promos. So I like Eddie Kingston. I don't hate him as much A million times I love I love Eddie Kingston's promos. But if he wants to wrestle Kiobasa or whatever, go to Japan and uh yeah and do it. Not an eight of you. It's no place for it there. You've seen once one Eddie Kingston match. You've literally seen
every single match for the last fifty years exactly. Eddie reminds me of your crazy uncle who tries to get into wrestling. Uh. He just picks and and he's just all over the place. The machine gun chops are cool ones, but he keeps on doing them, and I just I don't they don't seem like they hurt. I thought, Uh, you know, he didn't do the crispin wall type where he just leaves. He's just not interested.
To me, he just you know, your old crazy uncle who thinks he's a wrestler and wants to fight all the time, and he does do good good promos. I will give you that, but he's just not my cup of tea. And like I said before, I would have rather him not want to count no Classic. I think they're giving him and all a branch and just want him to do it. But I don't think I don't understand
his popularity the fan base. But that's just me, all right. I think the popularity, I think the popularity that Eddie Kingston comes down to the fact that he does try to emulate eighties and nineties wrestling because he's the link to the older folks that are wrestling watching wrestling now that aren't being set because you don't see that in the other place. You don't see it at all.
You don't see any of that. And like FTR, I see where they can mesh them because FTR tries to do the same thing, or that's what they used to be when they first came in. They wanted to be you know, we're the tag team that does things the way you're supposed to hold the tag groupe. Yeah, you know, that was what they were.
They're gone, I can see. I don't mind Eddie. I mean I kind of figured when it gave the when he put the two titles up, that he was gonna win him again in the Continental Classic, which kind of took away from the Continental Classic for me because it was pretty much was preordained as soon as you got how many matches did they have? Twenty five matches, but you all know that he's gonna win. So that kind of was a you know, next year they're gonna have it so that the aw
champ, whoever they aw champ is, is in the tournament. That's that's what they said they're gonna do. I don't know. I like, I don't mind Eddie. I like his promos because and that's the other thing he's kind of like to me, he kind of reminds me of what like, uh, Dusty Rhodes was he does there his promos don't try to over impress people. He just he's trying to be that blue collar work guy and trying to hit the ish, and I think that's what he does. He's a
popular guy. I mean, there's no denying that people love Eddie. They love him, But you know, I don't know. I wasn't really that big a fan of FTR when they first started either, but they've kind of grown on me a little bit. Yeah, you know the thing here, Look, I say earlier in the show that I suck at predictions, but I I picked Eddie Kingston to win the tournament, and I also predicted him
to lose his first match in the tournament. I did not. I took me to my surprise that he lost the second match in the tournament, the Continental Classic. But yeah, I mean it was just written on the wall. And you know, I'm Brian Danielson's blood that that Eddie Kingston was goin that tournament from the very get go. I just I don't know if I want to spare Bessy Rose myself, that's a long shot, But I was I remember watching in the eighties and I don't remember wrestler's acting like wrestling the
same way that Eddie Kingston did, So I don't know. You know, Eddie Kingston has a look of an eighties wrestler or the late seventies early early eighties wrestler. But here's the point. You know, this is one thing you said that that you know he was like a throwback to the eighties wrestlers. No, he isn't, because there's eighties wrestlers that are on the aw
roster all a lot better. You're right, But there's one thing. But one thing I gotta say about that, though, is this he is still a throwback because think, go back to the eighties, you had a you were playing a character. He's playing a character. He's not. I mean, he's playing himself, but he's almost a larger than life character street guy. That's where he's supposed to be. And there were more guys like Eddie in the eighties than there were guys that were superstars like and even like the
superstars like Cogan. Hogan couldn't wrestle to save his ass. He had four movies. Well so does Kingston, but Kingston's. But the difference is Kingston's kind of like your jobber who got lucky. He's kind of like a bawler they gave a title to. I mean exactly, that's that's who we reminded me of. It was the Brooklyn Brawler. Yeah, I can see that. Yep, answer your question that. I'm sure you're glad that you asked it. Yeah, Yeah, I like to know the other side of the
fence. So yeah, I am, I am glad, and I appreciate everyone's opinions. I think you all are wrong. But heyt List, you didn't calls idiots. No, I that's that was good. I like that. That was funny. I'm a man, damn it. I'm preordained to be wrong, especially when a woman asked me a question. Oh, it's like I can't I succumb to the pressure. Well, look, Alex, let me ask you a question. We got will Osprey coming to make an
appearance tomorrow night. Let's just do a short prediction here. We have a we have a topic on the a w fat up subber adit right now, and basically the question is is will Osprey going to turn on the don Cows family? And it just seems almost use this tarb again preordained that he is, uh, But then some people are saying that maybe he won't and Taqushta will turn on the kylis Hemily. Now we know that Takeshta and Ausbury are going to have a match at Revolution, but we're not going to talk about
that right now. We're going to talk about tomorrow night. Do you think that we may see signs of him? Maybe a face turn from will Osprey tomorrow night. Yeah, I think yeah. Like that's the big question is when he shows up, is he telling the crowd off. I think we saw him on Twitter he said he's coming to Huntsville but with the c Yeah, so that that implies that don't play hell yeah, that's play yield turn. Uh yeah. So I think, yeah, we're going to see some
heel tendencies from him coming in tomorrow night. But I think I can see that quickly going the other way and him becoming more of a faith So that's kind of my prediction. Yeah, I mean like that. Would you agree that with the popularity and the anticipation of will Osprey that is good. This is what a lot of people are saying, you know, in the community, that having will Osbury come in as a heel would be a missed opportunity for some excitement. I don't think so. I think he can be exciting
as a heel. I mean, and it keeps you wondering what he's going to do next. You know, is this going to be the week that he betrays someone? You know? Is is this the week he's going to show what he's really up to? It? No, I I think he'd be fine as a heel coming into it. I think he can pull it off. Okay, so you think he could pull it off, But do you want him to be a heel? I wouldn't mind it, Okay,
I wouldn't mind it. Yeah. I think the one thing to me is that we have a lot of heels, and especially like top of the card heels in a w like this, this triple threat match Samoa Joe Adam Page. If if he's there and swerve, they're basically all heels right them right now. And he just like broke into someone's house and threatened Adam Page's house. I don't call him less of a heel, but yeah, so there's
really room for will Aspray to be a big time facing aw. That's just kind of how I'm seeing it right Well, you know, go ahead, that go ahead. Oh. I was going to say, Hangman isn't quite a heel yet either, So I don't know. Hangman is still kind of on the fence, and I think he doesn't. He have an announcement tomorrow. Yeah, we'll talk about that. We will talk about that. I wanted to ask Sutton a question because Sutton and I are of the same age,
and he watched a lot of the older wrestlers. And I don't know if you had the same experience as I do, but back when I started watching wrestling, you could have eight championship belts in a promotion, and the heels had pretty much all eight of them. It was a heel dominated world. And for the longest time in AW you would have with the I think seven championship belts at AW has. I may be wrong there it was only like two heels that had belts, so well, I'm of the mind you're
right that was what it was like. I mean, you had Okay, I can think back to those days when Bruno San Martino was a face. You know, there's that's pretty much the only one that had a belt forever that was a face. Back in those days, you had Harley Race probably next to Flair, was probably the second most dirtiest player in the game, and Race held it was everywhere. You know. My problem with AW and my son and I talk about this all the time, there are way too
many heels in AW. You have you have eighty five percent of the roster or heels, and you can't you can't keep putting on good shows if everybody's a heel, because if you have so many heels, then you start having the people really get by. Like the only person I can think of that actually pulled it off the best was Stone Cold. He was healed, but
everybody treated him his face. He was still over. But when you've got like at the time you were talking about, you had Jade car Gill, you had Britt Baker, you had uh trying to think of the back when those two were champions, who was the tag team champions? But in the women's division, they kind of did that with those two as heels. They weren't good at it and it kind of ruined those titles for a little while. And then you know, if you have so many, that's just like
the whole thing with the tag team titles. I don't see them. You know, nobody wants to see the Bucks happening because the Bucks don't need them putting. Like normally, if you're retiring, you want to wrestle somebody that you that needs put over, to put them you know, get that last loss, put them over and move on. There's nothing gained in that. If anybody, anybody that the Bucks wrestle is going to be put over though,
that's what they do. No, no, no, I'm saying that you don't have any reasons for Sting to lose to the Bucks, right, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you don't they they Sting doesn't need to lose to put the Bucks over. The Bucks are already over regardless of how you run them. Now, if he was going up against Starks and Big Bill, I can see him losing that match because that puts Starks and
Big Bill over and go from there. But you're I disagree with you because if Stark's a big Bill win that that match, they're nowhere near as good as the Bucks. And the Bucks could then put anybody that challenges them over, whereas Starks a Big Bill simply would not be able to do that. Yeah. I get that, but yeah, I'm not thinking ahead of that match. I'm just thinking that last match. But you're right about the number of the Heels being champions. I mean, Chris Jericho, second guy to
win, was a Heel. He wanted he wanted to. He won the original aw championship. He was the first. So you had a Heege champ from the beginning. And then you know Keny Omega is kind of a tweener. The Bucks, depending on which way they want to go, are tweeners. I mean it's a lot different now than it was back then, right because back you were cut, you're either he or face. There wasn't no in between. Right. Let me let me let me go ahead and get
m K in here so he can get his two cents in. I don't need lit Osprey to be a John Cena baby pace, but I think you could prow the line of like MJS did and be a Marmie jerk or whatever word that they would use over there in England. But uh, you know, he's good enough that he would say I'm good enough, you know, prove it in the ring type of guy. But he doesn't need to be
a John Cena baby face. The baby face run for him and kind of breaking away in like United Kingdom or or whatever it called his group, UH run with him and break away from uh Pallas would be great. Yeah, okay, So the last thing on the agenda to talk about tonight, I want to I want to try to wrap this up pretty soon. So we're just going to skip ahead too, and Adam Page is going to make his announcement of his intentions or his status for Revolution, if you guys aren't aware
of it. He hurt his ankle in his last match, was reported that he was fine, and the reason why he hurt his ankle was because some kind of personal issue may have may preclude him from participating in Revolution. Frankly speaking, whenever they do this, Alex, it usually means that he's gonna announce that he's not going to be there. What do you think, uh
Kelson? I think I would be really disappointed if he's not in this match, because you know, they've been setting up the whole Swerve versus Hangman. Hangman's like so angry at Swerve for all the horrible things he's done to him and now he wants to cost him the title. It all, by all means like that's kind of the whole reason for this world title feud. So if Hangman's not a part of it and it's just Swerve versus Samoa Joe, that's still like a cool match and maybe Swerve wins, but I don't know,
just take a lot away from the match. So I'd be pretty disappointed. I can see sorry that throw me off a second. I can see I can see Hangman taking an injury and then coming back in the match and Austin for the match because he said he will do it anything in all costs to make sure. So if he's taking an injury or or whatever, I could see him do that as well. Yeah, I can. I can
say that. What about you, Nett? Yeah, I think Hangman is going to do something to Swerve. I think Swerve is his target, and yeah, I think he he may act like he's not going to participate in that match and just come out of left field and maybe call cost Swerve the match against Samoa Joe. But I'm I don't know. It's been hard to tell with with Hangman because he seems to be going through something so right, I don't know, he's he's emotional. Yeah, an AA meeting that night,
and he may not be able to make the show. Oh lord, it's true anyway, it could be true. SD. What do you got for us, Bud? I don't know. Uh, I'm not really liking the way they're going with Hangman. I just don't like the character the direction of his character is going. But I do think that's that's a very big possibility that he's going to come out tomorrow night. You say, I've heard my ankle. I got to do this, and then on Sunday he's going to show up and screw uh in the match. If he's not in the
match, I swear winning. Yeah. Well, we will talk about our predictions for the full card, because I'm hoping that they announce more matches tomorrow night for a Revolution, especially like I really do think that what match is a possibility actually for something like zero hour would be Brian Gage against Hook for the FTW title. So, but we're gonna wrap this up, but before we go, I did want to take a couple of minutes to make it
a little bit of a personal statement. Yesterday we lost a true legend in the wrestling ring. Ole Anderson passed away at the age of eighty one. He was for this old guy. He was a mainstay on my TV on Saturdays on TBS when I was watching Georgia Championship Wrestling, a great heel, a good promo in the years when promos just were everything because they just didn't wrestle that much back then. And you know what, I love to hate Ole Anderson. I love to hate Oi and Gen Anderson and Lars Anderson and
arn Anderson. I love to hate the Minnesota Wrecking Crew. I loved Larsen, loved Ollie Anderson, and as a wrestler, there was none better what he did. You may or may not agree with what he believed in inside his own home, but in the ring he was a master. Thank you, Olie. You'll be missed. And that is how we're gonna wrap things up on Ignition. Thank you guys for coming. We'll see you tomorrow night. So for this episode, this is Kelson Alex. Good night, everybody, good night, good night.