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It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with the aw Fanta Podcasting. This is Kelson. Uh, we're returning after a couple of weeks. I guess, hiatus, I've been under the weather. I don't know if you can tell by the interesting sound of my voice, my sultry sexy voice, that I've gotten now one at a time. Ladies, seriously, ooh Kilsen, I said, ladies, Well, you know I can't help. But if I have that effect on everybody, I am golden lover. Oh god, Yeah, that's kind of a lame

Yeah, I said, he was coming back, and I know a lot of people doubted him, but I sincerely believed that he was going to come back, and I think it was just phenomenal. Unfortunately, I wasn't at that show. They are in and around CEA this week. I saw a lot of people I know on TV, but I decided not to go to the shows where they're having it. It's kind of hard to get to. But I've seen a bullsham person before, so I don't miss it too much.

We'll see, I'm here for We agreed. If I only had one complaint is that I was sort of hoping that when Coda came back, Kenny would be present for it. Can you imagine seeing Kenny's face light up? I am getting kicky feet just thinking about it, You.

Know what I mean?

Both, Yeah, very much. Well, look, don't forget. July second, which is one week from tonight, is the three hundredth episode of Dynamite. So if you're going to do something special, especially a week before all in, why not reunite Kenny Omega and Kodo Boushi. I'm dynamite three hundred.

Yeah, that would be amazing.

I absolutely can't wait.

Yeah, I think it's a good thing.

And I just hope that this all works out well and they can they can do some amazing things together.

Well.

I don't want to put any kind of a damper on this lovely discussion, but is anybody considering that this is all a ruse and Kodo Boushie is going to betray Kenny Omega?

Yeah?

I kind of thought there was somebody posting it. They wanted to know what would be your worst case scenario for the different matches that.

Go on at all In and I think one of the ones I said was I think one of the ones I said was Kenny comes out a Boushie turns on and joins the don Kallis family or uh so that could I could see that happening where I could see the Bucks and and them actually getting together and Kenny and Abushi joined them, but not in a good way.

Do not people into the world, you know it.

I want to go back to what Sutton just said, because at the aw Fantop subreddit there is a topic that somebody posted is basically it says, what is your worst case scenario booking for all in And practically everybody said Moxley wins. I mean, there's not anybody that said Hangman wins put it that way, you know, but they've And of course there were some funny things that people said, you know, Moxley wins, and you know Wendy Richter causes causes hang Man to Its just all kinds of weird stuff.

Minds that too, But I don't.

I don't think it's a good idea to have Mercedes Monet win. That's just my opinion. I know people disagree, but I don't. I don't want to see Monet have all the belts.

No, she needs to start losing belts.

To be honest, giving her every belt she goes up for is making it a It's not making it a good thing to me, it's making it a joke. What's the point of having those belts anywhere? All she's gonna do is go in and win a match in especially like when she went over to uh was it Norway somewhere over there.

In the Austria, in Austria, and.

When she never wrestled there before, when in one match in one and won the belt just so that she can get on Dekla, who has absolutely nothing to do.

With her right now, so that I don't think it has anything to do with Tekla, to be honest with you, I think it's just forgetting her getting belts. Let's face it, your sonton all right, as far as myself goes, and I'm gonna pretty much say everybody here goes, it's the e w A title that she want to believe it's called uh okay yep before prefer Mercedes Monet won that title. That anybody in America know that there was an e w A title. You know that that could be one in Austria.

But the point is the bad thing is they may not have known it was a title, but I guarantee you not very many people care because it's a it's a title that nobody's ever heard of.

So that's here's the thing, though, Sidon is when Kenny o'maga was doing being about collector, what was your reaction to that. Let me ask you that.

So if you if you want a real reaction, here's my real reaction.

And everybody will disagree with me on this, but I don't think that Monette is the wrestler that everybody else thinks she is.

To me, she's the exact same person she was in WWE.

Answering my question, give.

Into it, give me a second. Keny Omega was actually working and winning those matches and putting people over and doing things for those companies. She's got six belts now, and what's she doing for those companies? Yeah, she goes out and she does interviews, but she doesn't do the interviews that she'll talk about AW four, five or six minutes and then it's all about her. She's held those belts for over a year.

I totally disagree with you.

Okay, Well, the interviews I've seen her do, she talks about AEW or the belt that she's talking about for five minutes, and then it's all about what she's doing and what she's going to do and how she's doing things. You can't put belts on somebody and keep them for a year and think that's a good thing, because that's six belts that she is congested that nobody else can have. There's no competition for him. She barely defends the the TBS title anymore, and all she's doing is accumulating belts.

What's the point So you're annoyed by it?

Well, guess I'm annoyed by it.

I think it's a joke.

Be perfectly honest with you.

I think it's a joke. And I agree with ms MK.

If she wins the AW title, that will destroy the AW Women's division, because what's the point in having all the other people competing it when you're just going to give a belt to somebody who.

Just for the fun of it. She's There's no way she should be.

I will.

Let Rolins let Rolands say his opinion.

Now, So guess what you're getting the exact react, given the exact reaction that AW and Mercedes want. They want you to be annoyed by her belt collecting. Like the reason I asked you about did you were you okay with Kenny Omega being the belt collector is because it's I feel like it's the same thing they.

Kenny to compare money to Kenny Omega, it's like comparing uh Paul Hogan to uh, I'm.

Not comparing wrestlers though. That's not what I'm saying.

You're saying that it's okay, you're you're for.

What I'm getting from you is that you're saying, okay, well, Monet winning all these belts is the same as when Omega won all the belts, and it's not because Kenny Omega actually deserves to win all those titles.

To me, all the titles that she's won, she's been.

Hit again again. This is just your opinion. We all know if anybody who's been listening to this podcast for the last year something who's expressing his opinion hates most Mercedes Monette not quite as much. I don't think, not quite as much as you hate a Baker. But but you've never had anything nice to say about Mercedes Monette.

This great wrestler, and she's not changed from when she was in WWE.

That's all I'm saying.

That's my biggest problem is she's the exact same wrestler that she was in WWE, and she wasn't that good there.

I agree with something in the part.

Hold on, I agree with something in a part because Kenny Omega when he was at Tenna he at least had matches with several other people and didn't win and then leave and never return. That's the problem I have with If you're gonna have belts, you need to stay in those, you need to go back and defending them. Kenny Omega is great, and I'm not saying that Mercedes Monette is not a good, solid wrestler.

I have no problem.

She's gotten better a lot of stuff, But Kenny at least stayed in TNA and made TNA.

A better place.

Hurt by Mercedes and just mentioning those bells doesn't make it a better place. A better place would be fighting off championship contender of championship con tender.

That's the problem I have with it.

So look, mer yeah, let me just state something here, rollins, and then I'll go right back to you. Mercedes Monet has wrestled in four different continents this year, not four different countries this year. She's been in Mexico, United States, Japan, Austria, English, many more than that, England, UK. I mean, so you know she's out there, and she's been there multiple times.

So to a certain Okay, Sutton an MK, this is primarily to you two, to a certain extent, I am playing Devil's advocate on this. Not entirely, though. I just wanted to get your opinions, more so on the Kenny Omega stuff, because for the most part, I agree with what you're saying, at least about Kenny Omega as the belt collector. But again, you're not supposed to be liking Mercedes Monette and this whole belt collection and six Belts Monet or seven Belts Monet whatever, So are they different? Yes?

Justin net. Do you have any opinions on this?

I knew. I think that it's a good thing that she's collecting all those belts and going all over the place and beating a lot of what are I haven't seen all of the previous champions, but a couple of them I have, and they're good, solid wrestlers. She's bringing a lot of attention to herself and to a w and a lot of people from a lot of different promotions want to get their hands on her. It's an opening for ae W. It's an opening for her as a wrestler. One of my favorite wrestlers, Viva Van wants

I'm glad that you brought up Viva Van. Viva Van is signed to AW And do you know how many nets, I'm sure you do, how many belts that Viva Van currently holds.

I think she has five?

She has six?

Six sorry.

So six bays six. And it's actually really cool because Viva Van and Mercedes Monette are currently in a social media war is the best way of putting and and uh, it's a great thing. And one of the things that really me about this is that I don't know if you remember this net Back in May of last year, Viva Van had a non title match against then world Women's World Champion and current Women's World Champion Tony Storm. Do you remember that? It was on Rampage?

I remember that, yeah, yeah.

And and Tony Storm made Viva Van look fantastic.

Yeah, you know, and if you and.

If you look at Mercedes Monette, everybody she wrestles against, especially in recent months, meaning like the last six to eight months, they look fantastic, right. And after this match, Viva Van went on on Twitter and said, Tony Storm made that match happen. She did that for me, And she said, I can't express my paraphrasing. Of course, I can't express the gratitude that I have for Tony Storms.

Let me I say something real Wig, go ahead, Jess, Sorry, I just didn't want to talk over anyone. As far as being a face goes, I'll just say no, I'm sorry, but Mercedes Money is a terrible face.

Agreed, just just awful.

I'm like, I'm agreeing with you and with Net. And this is despite the fact that when Mercedes first showed up and she was a face, I couldn't stand her. I'm like, as of someone who was a fan of Sasha Banks, I'm like, that happened to you? Why when did you get lame? But once she turned heel and started going again, like, there you are, that's much better.

Yeah. I was one of the people just that had no real exposure to Sasha Banks when she was in WWE. So when she came to AW, I was excited because I knew who she was, and I knew that she was supposed to be really, really good. I was not impressed when she cut that long, nonsensical whatever she did in Boston in big business and wasn't untild. They actually made her a heel that I was like, Oh, now I get it. But I used to make fun of her, you know, a lot, for like the first two months

I agree My thing is I'm wondering how they're going to work it into the card and make it still manageable and make it still excitable. That's my only wonder, But I think it's a great idea.

Anybody else.

My biggest issue is not since I am the one who like mentioned it, like I loved the MJF will Osprey feud going into All In last year. I that was one of m jf's best feuds. I believe since he's been in a w and that maybe I'm in a minority here, but I loved everything with MJF and Adam Cole going into All In. So if he were to be part of the Casino Gauntlet, I would be like, okay, I.

Think versus Mestiico oh, I was thinking.

The same thing.

I got to agree with Rowlands.

I think the because m JF wants to be in the title picture, and every time they've done with these casino events, it's been for a title shot.

I look for that to be where they're going.

To put.

And for me, that just doesn't feel right for MJF, like, like, it's not trust me, I'm very much looking forward to the Casino Gauntlet. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like NJF has been in fantastic programs going into the last two all ins, and for him not to be in like a proper feud, at least for at least for me, that's just it's not right. I

But that's but here's the thing, and Rollins, and I'm gonna ask this to you specifically. Let's say we have Swerve and Osprey against the Young Bucks. It's it's just a meaningless exhibition match with no stakes.

What you talking about you?

He's right, He's absolutely right. There's no story to it.

I guess there is a little bit of story to it, but.

There's nothing there. I would rather see them in the Gauntlet match than in a a tag match.

But the problem with that is is it's not leading anywhere. It's based on what's been happening with the world title. You that's all been involved around the Bucks and interfering with the world title and getting everything that's going from that's that's no reason to have that match at all.

In it would need to nothing.

Oh, I completely disagree with that, totally disagree.

I don't know.

I mean, it's it's it's you know, it's just a difference of opinions. There's nothing wrong with your opinion or mine or anybody else's. It's just that personally, I don't see the point and having an ausprey and Sweer versus the Bucks match, I mean, because it's it would just be an exhibition.

That's what it is.

But yeah, I want to go back to what he was saying with m JF.

I think per Syndicate.

And and the Lucha Doors themselves are having their own fit feud and it's been building, so I think there's something there. And people want to see a match between Meschiko and m JF.

And we just sat between miss We just saw match between on a big stage. Yeah, Jenn, if they ran mister Cohen and MGF at all, in to me, it's a cop out match.

I think I think is gonna be there's gonna be a tag title match that MGF will be involved in. He'll do his thing in the match to keep make sure that the Herts Syndica keeps the.

Titles and agree with that.

He'll be the last one in or one of the last ones in for.

The Gauntlet match, and he'll probably be the favorite to win it, so he gets a title shot with whoever wins the Knoxley match.

I disagree.

I disagree with you, Sidon, and here's why, because it's looking like it's gonna be Hurt Syndicate versus Jet speed at All, in which I'm very much in favor of that match because I've become a big fan of Kevin Knight since he's debut. Then a w I would give him the at least the TNT Championship. That's just my opinion. But it would not surprise me if they end up changing the tag team titles and giving it to Kevin

Because I agree with.

That way way too early for the breakup of them.

I think it's going to be.

You didn't say that that they are going to break up. He said, this is how they start the breakup, which, look, you might as well start it, because frankly speaking, I think if you were to ask a thousand wrestling fans, specifically aw fans, is MJF going to be with the Hurt Syndicate in six months? Pretty much, I think everybody would say no.

Although I'm very much enjoyed the story of MJF and the Hurt Syndicate, it was a little bit odd to me at first, like, wait a minute, after the feud with Hangman, you're gonna put him in the this story with m VP and that hurts synd to get. But as it's going on, I'm like, Okay, I'm actually really liking this. I want to see where it's gonna go.

I disagree, It'll be something, he'll have something. You just got to.

Hold you.

Fag matches is gonna be a multi team thing, and that's how you get it off of them because Christian Cage has said that he wants Nick, he wants a shot at it, and there are others, So I you know, why not making a multiplier team match instead of just one on one team versus another team.

It just yeah, it leird to me that m JF doesn't have a proper signals feud, Like it doesn't sit right with me.

Okay, aw, this year has not done a real good job of setting up matches for their upcoming pay per views more than a couple of days beforehand. And like I said, there's seventeen days or so until then until the pay per view, so you could have twenty five more matches by then. But you know, this is this is what TK'SMO has been.

Yeah we look, okay, okay, look, but one of the matches in the men's division that has kind of gotten some attention but it hasn't been set up yet is Adam Cole versus Kyle Fletcher for all In. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm still gonna go back to what I said earlier before. Yeah, if they do Adam Pahle versus Kyle Fletcher. Yes, it makes fun, makes sense for the A W, T and T Chachampionship, But I don't think all In is the place to do it.

Why do you say that?

I just think that, Look, you've got Hangman at him Page against John Moxley. You've got keny Omega versus Kazuchka Okada. Does is anybody gonna give a shit about Adam Cole and Kyle Fletcher? I really? I mean, I know that there's gonna be some people that do, but I think it's just gonna be a forgotten match. It's gonna be one of those matches like can we get this over so we can get onto the real matches kind of thing.

Well, you have to build it harder. Think it's a good way to do it myself.

But yeah, I mean, look, we mentioned the Mystico and MGF. The only way that they could do something like that and run that back as if they put Mystico's match mask against MGS hair or something like that, something that's, you know, something silly and extreme that would get people riled up, you know, because okay.

For that diamond that diamond ring.

Yeah, that's what I addressed before.

There you go mask versus ring.

Yeah, well that's well, I don't know, I don't know. Dynamite Diamond ring is only defended once a year.

You know.

The only other match that I can think of again, you know, we're gonna I'm gonna switch over to the women's division thunder Rosa and Athena. Are they gonna do that at Supercard of Honor on Friday where they gonna wait till Saturday until all In? I mean, come on, I mean, you've got to have it to me, You've got to have Athena at all In. Yes, they can put her in the Casino Countland match. But again, though, you know, people want to see Tony Storm and they

No, I don't think they're gonna do it a ring of I think they're gonna do it at the at the r O H pay per view view and then have her in the Garland match as again saying like same my idea with Lake MJF.

It's a chance for her to win the title shot.

Now I think Athena would.

Yeah.

I think it needs to be in the in the UH Women's Gaunt win and win it.

I think the rumor is actually that they are going to do Athena versus thunder Rosa at all In. That's the why would you do that? That's the rumor I've heard, and I would absolutely do it.

That doesn't make GOODFO sence to me?

Is this for the title for the If you're if you're having a pay per view for r o H the day before all In, why would you put your title shot on an A E W pay per view when you have, that's your.

She's their star. She's there, she's there.

That's hold on, hold on. How many times have we seen the r O H Men's World Championship.

There's that's that's not even as there's that's when you look at and I agree with Sutton here, the Ring of Honor Women's Championship is fifty time time is more important than the women Ring of Honor Men's Championship.

Because yet the men's championship has been defended on a W pay per views because.

It's because it's not as important. It's not as important. But what what Sudden is saying is that look and Sudden, let me let me just ask you, is athenis Ring of Honor? Were Women's World Championship the most important championship in Ring of Honor?

It might be the most important championship in ae w's kingdom at the moment.

Because okay, well it was yes. It was a yes or no question. I don't want to get into a long dissertation about it. It is, but it is so the question is it is the most important championship in Ring of Honor? I agree with you. If you've got a Rig of Honor pay per view the day before all in, Okay, you have to have their I mean, if you don't have that match on Super Car to Honor, what's the point of even having this pay per view exactly. And that's the other thing, there's nothing there.

None of the men's titles that were defended on ae W pay per views had an orders pay per view the same the day before or the same weekend.

That's the difference, right, So if if you do this, go ahead something Okay, I'm sorry.

I just don't think it makes a business sense for them to put it on all in when you have to have it there.

And I'll tell you what.

The women's belt is the only championship I really know who of Ring of Honor? Who I know who has that belt because I can't really on top of my head name you who the men's Ring of Honor champion is.

Or and.

Suns to Texas or the tag Team Champions and then the Dustin Rhodes and the Von Erics at the Trio's Champions Red Velvet. Red Velvet is the TV champion.

Yeah, then Nick Nick Wayne is a champion in ROH two.

I think a lot of people have said they would rather Ring of Honor championships be defended on Ring of Honor shows and not brought out right yep.

Well, speaking of Athena, and I'm going to say something's kind of off the wall here, Okay, bear with me. We have, of course, we've talked about it already, the women's and men's Casino Gauntlet matches, with the winners of these Casino Gauntlet matches getting world future world title shots.

Mm hmm.

All right, bear with me here, because this is going to get I just give me a chance to explain my thought and then I'll go to you guys. On the February fourth edition of aw phantubs Ignician Net revealed that women's tag team titles are being made. Okay, and if you pay attention to different new sources, dirt cheets, whatever you want to call them, a lot of places are now now talking about the women's tag team titles. So here's the thing. Well, we already knew this thanks

Bull and Nakano is their name, isn't it?

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know about Bull, to be honest with you, but that would be a really good one. And then look, you know that's just people that are there at at at star Cast. But then you also got to think of New Japan wrestlers and startum wrestlers. You know, Gabe Kid can very well be in a casino gutlet you know. You know, I don't know, Nato could show up, Tana Hashi could show up for all we know, switching from you know, then you've got people that are like you

So happy.

That would make me.

Yeah, yeah, I'm.

Definitely or Jack Perry.

Oh yeah, it's endless options, really it is.

Yeah. I mean there's some you know, you're not gonna see, Like I don't believe you'd be able to see somebody like Orange Cassidy because he's he's injured. Uh So there are some people that you're not going to see. But you know, I think, yeah, Jay White still hurt. Maybe the guns. Maybe they didn't release they did release a report.

So Eddie Kingston, I don't think so.

I don't think if Eddie Caston comes out, it'd be his a mouthpiece or you know, somebody to stand there and hit somebody over the head with a trash can lid or something like that. I don't think you'll get into the ring, I think. I don't think that.

I think it would be during the John Moxley match exactly.

And I think if if if Eddie Caston did come back, he would come back to help John Moxley.

Or to go against John Moxley.

You don't know, yeah, but you know, let's put it this way. I hope that the Hangman and Moxley match is a clean match and it doesn't have anything you know, and uh and you know, for God's sakes, I mean honestly, at this point, you know, if Moxley wins his I personally speaking, personally speaking, I'm not going to watch this match.

Yeah, I'll watch it, well, well, I'll be there, but.

He at Moxley wins, I'm down with the aw I will not continue to watch programming with him on as champion.

Well.

That's the thing, is that, in all honesty, when John Moxley has a match, or really any of the death Writers have a match, if I don't turn off the TV completely or change the channel completely completely, I zone out because I just don't have any interested in it,

I agree question you don't find what's going on with mox Yuda and stat Land are intriguing at all.

I am absolutely you for breaking that up, because if you weren't going to I was. I am absolutely loving what they are doing with Chris Statlander, wheel A Yuta, and John Moxley. But just in general, since they started the Death Riders to now, I have loved every single second of it. Moxley is one of my favorite aw World champions.

I do I just think that this particular run sucks.

Oh I could I fully disagree with you. I think this has been a fantastic run for Moxley as world champion.

This is for me, in my opinion.

I loved his program with Orange Cassidy, I really I loved everything leading up to World's End. The stuff with Adam Copeland did run a little dry. I have to admit, but then you got every thing with Hangman now and you got everything with Swerve at Dynasty. I'm loving this stuff. It's fantastic. But especially Statlander, if she were to join the death Writers, look out, I think that would be fantastic.

And I'm totally on the opposite if. My thing is that if Christandler joins the Death Writers, that means that Death Writers will to exist and it would suck.

Yeah, No, it would be a hundred times better. What are you talking about?

The Hanging winners.

I really feel that that Death Writers needs to be disbanded because at this.

Point, absolutely absolutely, I look at this matches Hangman again page against the Death Writers, for if hank Man loses this match, then this whole pointless, pointless, and if the death Writers loses with if the death Writers win this match, I'd be like, I'd be like, what what the hell are we doing here? This is are we going to continue to suck?

Yeah, they could be having stat Lander join to pivot it off into Women's Tag with her, and.

That that would be a waste of That would be a waste of Chris Stafflanders readership. Fear is not a good wrestler. I'm sorry. She's a good character, but she is probably the Eddie Kingston of women's wrestling's character can't wrestle herself out of a box.

Is the whole with her joining the Death Writers? Is it just another way for them to add to her and Willow?

Because I mean that seems to.

Be what they want to do with stant Landers.

They want to keep her fighting with Willow, which I think is just as big a waste of time.

Well, here's my opinion on that something. I'm glad you brought that up. My opinion is because as we've been going through this, Chris Stantler has been saying, why are we talking about Willow again? Why are we talking about Willow again? I think if this is going to work, Chris Statlander goes into all in causes causes the Death Writers to implode, grabs that briefcase, opens it up and hits John Moxley or Marina Spear with that belt or whatever.

Writers, you're gonna do that to Judah. I mean, he's already dah.

Don't make it.

Don't break his heart.

He's buried, he's barely dah. He's more of an outpaka right now than he is Wheeler Dah.

I'm by the waymation. By the way, I'm loving that wheel You guys basically become Moxley's whipping boy. It's it's honestly hilarious, but.

We're you bet. He's spent the whipping boy for three years now.

Yeah boy, thinking they can turn him but it never works.

No, it doesn't. It's hilarious, but it does feel like they might do Willow versus Statlander at all, in which I would enjoy that match. I would want Statlander to win because I'm a huge Chris Statlander fan. I think she should have been. I think she should have been.

Putting a match, a totally senseless match between Statlander and if you're gonna put them in, if you're gonna put them in a match and put them in the Casino Gauntlet match, you don't put them in.

Who's a bigger Stattlander fan or Rowlands?

I don't know.

I would say me, dude, you're you're completely crazy on that role.

There's no way.

The whole point is we saw christat Lander and Willow Nightingale wrestle all last year.

That's all they did.

Yeah, I don't need them to wrestle again.

That should have been put away and over with done. They don't need to put her in.

I like that idea that Kelson came up with because I think it's a good idea and a good way to break up the Death Riders.

And pretty much put a cough, put a nail in their coffin.

I bet to bring up another thing for you, Son that you may may like remember over. We've had two times now where Wheeler Utah has kind of talked to Chris Statlander. I think I think wheel where Yuta is turning. Possibly the reason I say that is because they've been He's been talking very calmly and very uh you know, scripted, like to stat Lander, But readers appear always been standing right there. You never know what they're talking. They used to be Statlander and you used to be tight. They

Yes, I'm hoping beyond.

I'm hoping beyond, hope that we never hear the term death writers ever again. Yes, it's sucks. I'm sorry it does. And I don't know, just people to like that like them. I don't know why you know, but I know that you know. And I don't mean no disrespect. I'm sorry.

Do you want me to break out the dissertation? Do you want to explain all of this to you? Because I can explain the entire story and why it's brilliant to you if you like, Well, look.

I've been I've been for the most part, Like I can't really tell you that I've been watching this story for since all Out of last year was when this story started with the Death Writers. That's when the plastic bag went over Brian Danielson's head and the Death Writers started. Uh, the problem is after that first remember we were talking about it, like after the first couple of weeks after all Out last year, there were like, you know, felonies

I'm just done with it.

Look, i've been in this position before. I was I don't know if I've ever mentioned this, but I felt like I was going completely insane because I thought the whole original uncle Howdy thing that everybody was getting really over because nobody got it, And like, I get it, Why doesn't anybody else get it?

It's not it's not that we don't get it, or that I don't get it. I can't speak for anybody else. By myself, I get it. I just think it's incredibly boring and stupid and I don't want to see it anymore.

It's had peaks and valleys, and lately at the end it kind of got a little better with the with the Adam Copeland and stuff like that, But that middle part where everybody was just running in and doing their thing and constantly interfering, it's just like, Okay, we get it.

You're a gang. You like to do it doing the.

Same thing every single week, week out, and went week in and week out. The only difference between the Death Writers and the nWo is that new people didn't join the Death Writers every single week in packs of three. Yeah, you know, you know I will give them that is that they kept it. They kept the Death Writers as the Death Writers. They didn't just keep adding to it like crazy. But it doesn't. I'm sorry, it's just it. It started out where I thought that it could be

Have you can that's gonna happen when Hangman wins and stuff? Is it going to be huge or it gonna be a sigh of relief?

What will it be?

See again?

I agree with you, Jes there's nothing wrong with the Death Writers storyline. It's just a storyline that people either you love it or you don't, and that's what.

It's supposed to be.

It's not supposed to be earth changing, it's not supposed to be make you you know, it's not something to make you think you either like this storyline.

Or you don't.

When it's over, if Adam.

If Adam Page wins the title, it'll be the biggest popping the night, just because everybody backs him.

Period.

That's the only reason. Yeah, just because of that.

Not only would it be the biggest Poppa and I it would be the biggest discussion topic in the internet wrestling community. Thank God, to be like the you know, Ding Dong, the Witch is Dead.

The Jedi where the exactly?

I mean, everybody's dancing? You got jarge?

Are we?

Yeah?

I mean, look, I get the people like the Death Writers storyline. I do. I get it, but I have a hard time believing that people like the point where it's their favorite thing that's ever happened in wrestling. But I will say this for the people that don't like it, when it finally ends, it probably will be one of the more favorite things. Hey where were you when the Death Writers died? I will remember that.

I think a year from now people will look back into go I get it now, I understand it now.

That's I don't get it.

They don't like it.

I get it, I absolutely get it. I just think it's stupid.

That's why don't It's stupid, mom and drawn out and pointless.

That's why. Yeah.

For me, it gave you so many different people that actually had a shot at the title that we.

Haven't had before.

Because that's what it did. That was what made it different.

Who has a storyline really actually put over no nobody, nobody yet nobody.

You know what it reminds me of it It reminds me of the first International UH title reign with Orange Cassie. You wrestled every single week, beat people the same way every single week, Cothered and Lance Archer where he got count out standing on the ring apron, which was the dumbest thing in the history of all EAT wrestling. I still get pissed off when I think about that. It was repetitive and boring.

You know, I will speak for Orange Cassidy of course, because of course I will. No, I loved it because the thing is you could see him little by little, week after a week getting more and more worn down, and the story was how long can he keep this up?

Well?

You know, well, look I've got to go to net here because I know that every single week that Orange Cassidy, except for the Lance Archer thing, won every single match by using nets absolute favorite move in progress up. Yes, I mean it was like the way I described I've described the Death Writers this way in the past, and it's the same way that I've described the first run with Orange Cassidy in the International title or was that

Yeah, if he lasted long enough that I got to see the whole thing live, Like I got to see him come out, They get to hear like the Jay the whole Drews music. I got to see him take the title out of the jam Sport. It was amazing by the end.

Of that run. Honestly, again, it's the same way it is with death writers. It's the same way it is with any Eddie Kingston match. To be honest with you.

When he comes when he comes out, I can honestly say probably the last fifteen to twenty Orange Cassidy title defenses on that first run, I didn't see a second of it because I turned the channel.

Yeah, that's wort and loss then, you know, But.

I just did. I could just I could have watched the first match had gotten the same thing that I would have gotten from the fortieth match. Yeah or whatever, whatever, you did the same thing. Like with Jake Cargill. Jake Cargill's was just it was the same thing over and over and over again. It was weak, it was.

Wrestled. That's the difference between that.

Well, that's that is absolutely true. This has But I will say this again with I mentioned Jake Cargill. I've mentioned Eddie Kingston, I've mentioned Jake John Moxley, and I mentioned Orange Cassidy. Jake Cargill was an average wrestler, better than Eddie Kingston in the ring, but just average. Dom Moxley can wrestle, and so can Orange Cassidy. It's not their fault. It was the booking that made j car Goo horrible. It was the booking to me, that made

And you know, Kelson, what is your opinion on mcfoley.

Love mcfoley because mcfoley was nothing more than mcfoley. Mcfauley was actually a very very good wrestler and mcfoley put people over.

Yeah yeah, well you guys ready to hit POPA absolutely?

Are you dying to say something? I'm gay?

Oh, I'm just ready to change subjects.

Yeah, me too. Sorry, does anybody have an does anybody have a popa? They want to anything about pro wrestling? I don't care. Movies, music, TV, whatever you want to talk about.

And no one else that wants to go I will, but.

Oh, go ahead, you go ahead.

I just want to say, why was it a good idea to give Cody Cody Rhoads his own interview show. I've been watching a few of those on my reels, and there is something viscerally wrong. I don't like Cody Roads on a mylecular level. I don't know why, but some of his stories are at a pocket and some of his history is kind of revisionist the way he's been telling it.

For a buck attash, What are you talking about?

I mean, you question the man who ended racist, so.

The man who simply handedly made made Bullet Club what it is today. Yeah no, he actually said that, you good lord, that dude is beyond He loves a lie, and that proved it right there.

I guess I'll go next. I know they had a match a few weeks ago as like a qualifier to get into the four way, but I'd really like to see Brodie King and Josh Alexander have a match at all. In yes, it would be more of an exhibition match. I get it, and so Kelson probably wouldn't like it. But I know Brody and Josh Alexander have a long history with one another, and I'd like to see Josh Brody King finally had a big push, Like every time

Do it at three hundred, don't do it at all. In that's again, it would be a free up and get over so we get onto the real matches kind of thing. Yeah.

Also, I think Powerhouse Hobbs should win the AW World Championship in the next few years.

I absolutely agree with you. I'm a huge Hobbs fan. I agree with you. Anybody else have with PATPORI because I've got one.

Yes, where's so go ahead? Okay, thank you. I'm a little speaking of Brody by God's hate King. Uh, he's singing single handedly got a e w some outside exposure just by wearing a very cool T shirt at.

The Yeah, yeah he did. You know, you got to hand it to him. What did you think about that, Jess.

Oh, I loved it. I love brody King. As a matter of course. I wish he wasn't always the guy who had to eat the pin, but he's awesome human being.

Yeah. But do you know brody King is just an amazing Every time I've seen him, like outside of the ring, doing interviews or just chats with people, he just seems like, aw's Ruby Soho. I don't have you ever seen Ruby Soho just interacting with fans and stuff. She's amazing. She's amazing. But one thing I'll say about brody King, especially at uh Grand Slam Mexico, he's the biggest damn luchador I ever saw. Did you see the Oh my god, that was perfect?

Yes.

I mean I was so proud of him. I was like a daddy. I was like, I was proud of him.

I really was, Tony.

If you're listening to our little show, please push Brodie K.

Yeah, stick him on the mask so we don't know who it is. I mean, he'd come out, you know, we won't know who it is. Who's that big guy? With the tattoos. You know, that's wearing a mask. And you know, two years from now, Levi a mask himself and it's Brody King, who would be like mind blown as the big luchador. Did anybody else find an interesting bite? And by the way, Grand Slam Mexico, where Atlantis at Atlanta's Junior is just getting booed like lustily.

And yeah, the reason for that I heard was because Atlantis Junior, at his relatively young age and early position in his career, has already unmasked a few legends and the smacks of nepotism, so hence he gets booed. At least that's what I heard. I can't I will admit that I cannot mortify that.

Yeah, but they are I don't know, but they love themselves some etcha Sarah, I'll tell you that. Wow at Sarah was adored. What's another topic here for for potpourri? Does anybody want to talk about the Night of Champions? Come on, I mean, I'm holding my breath on that one. You know, does anybody think this is a good decision?

Well?

What was that?

Oh? They said something.

My son was saying to me that they're not moving it but uh, I would like to say you talk about like the the amount of people that showed up at the Mexican at the at the All in Mexico compared to what or Yeah Glance Slam Mexico compared to what WWE put on the week before, not even close to a comparison a w BLEW that show away except for maybe one match.

Yeah.

Wow.

You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up something totally vain. It may sound uncomfortable, but it's really not. I was a discussion, uh with male and female wrestling fans on on a message board this past week, and they were asking who had the most uh physically fit bodies wrestling bodies in in wrestling and both the men's and women's division. As you can imagine, you know, a lot of the men's men came from w W WEE

No, nobody, now that he's gotten himself back in shape.

Who well, he caught a bush is not a woman. So that unless I mean I vibe women women, women women. I thought, okay, yeah, I'm talking about women. I'm talking you know, I can't really think of anybody with a better wrestler's physique than Carrie Sye. It was interesting because we got down to who has you know, we were looking like, who has the best thighs? Carrie Saye? Who has the best shoulders? Carrie Sane? Who has the best arms? Carry Sayane? You know got down to this isn't so funny,

Hey, look think of it this way. Some people have a six pack. Eddie Kingston has a keg.

He has a keg for sure. I love Eddie Kingston again, and I really mean this. I love Eddie Kingston. I look forward to seeing him on TV. Unless he's wrestling. That's just me. I'm sorry.

Well, you gotta remember, though we haven't seen it in a long time. He's supposed to be getting back in shape.

So well, I've seen Eddie Kingston working. We've seen Eddie Kingston. If you go, we could see Eddie Kingston working out. Eddie Kingston is.

Not you know, Toda was a little chubby when we saw him last and now he's back and he looks amazing.

Yeah. I mean I was floored when I saw Kodo Boushie, honest to God, But I've been.

Spending the week saying I told him just so because no one believed me about.

A booshe.

I would I see, I knew he was going to show up eventually, and if he turns heel it will literally break my heart.

I will be fiteful, did I won't give it out of band. Fightful did issue a report on Coodo Bouche earlier today, saying that it is believed that Coodo Boushi is in the best physical shape that he's been in in years. So, I mean that's something. I mean, he he didn't come back too soon. He got himself up there, you know, but yeah, gosh, I mean.

We will also as an honorable mention, just as to give somebody from over in the over in the ww roster there flowers, Oh my god, Finn doll Or, how does he do it? You could skate on those abs even he gets older and his abs are still perfect.

Well you you know, as a man, I would admit that I've looked at male wrestlers and said, man, if I had to have a body, that's the body that I would want. And I've said it before on this podcast. Of all the wrestlers that I've seen now not the biggest guy in the world, you know, but he's well put together. If I had to say, I want that body to be mine, you know, you know, take beach pictures in I go Trent Purretta. I think Trent Parretta for me has probably the best body in aw Honestly.

Guya is actually facing Coda Bougie on Dynamite this way.

Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you know so. I mean, I'm a big Trent fan. And it's interesting because Coda Bougie has not wrestled like in the last kind of singles match in the last couple of years, you know, but neither has Trent Reddy. He's had some uh trios and multi man matches, tag matches, he's not. This will

Two.

I don't know about that since Trent is a heel. Now, well, you know.

You gotta support your boy.

Yeah. I mean, my mommy would love my mommy love me no matter what. It's called unconditional love, you know, so whatever it is. Hey, look, we're gonna call it a night. Thanks for listening to Ignition. We will be back tomorrow night after Dynamite for all lea talk where we'll be doing our review of Dynamite tomorrow night. So if you're around, come join us on our Wrestling Hub discord. The link will be in the description right after Dynamite to give your thoughts on aw Dynamite. So forty aw