It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with aw Fanhub. I'm your host, Kelson. I'm here with Sleazy C and Renee, and we're going to talk a little bit about the news coming out of the weekend. And boy was there a lot of news, including the fallout from World's End the pay per view on Saturday night. But so much has happened after that, I mean, holy cow. One of the biggest stories I want to tackle this right away is reports that Mercedes Monee and her
talks with WWE have fallen through. Let's just pretend in a hypothetical situation that Mercedes Monee as Summer Predicting will be debuting tomorrow night on Dynamite. So let's fantasy book Dynamite and how she's worked into it, and maybe not only Dynamite. Bud, what's your first feud going to be? Sleezy? What do you think about this? Well, as long as Mercedes Monett does not act like rat fist Man behind the scenes, I feel like her first real potential
feud that she could potentially have going on is Brett Baker. You know, just a nice little starting point, you know, beaten and trying to beat the crap out of the head of the women's division, who got how did
her position by Tony Kahn or whatever? Except she might actually be able to cut a decent promo on her And so maybe you carry that light away for a few months and then work her way up to the aw Women's World Championship, depending on whether or not she doesn't act like rap fistman and injures her toe eighty seven days into her run. Yeah, I think that could work out pretty good. Yeah, that makes sense. You want to know something,
Sleazy, I'm just going to give you a spoil alert. In my opinion on this, you and I are totally on different planes on this one, Believe it or not. I I almost disagree with everything you just said. Not that what you said isn't good. I'm just I just don't think it's realistic. And I'm going to tell you why after Renee you let us know and then and then, of course, sleazy, I'll give you a
chance to rebut for a rebuttal on uh on what I say? Okay, Yeah, well, I was hoping she goes against Mariah A because it's making her take you right, No opponent was she does have one. Now, she does have one. Now, okay, they did announce it. She's going against Queen Amanada. Yeah, that's over in two minutes. Okay. Uh, well, so so let's take that off the board for no, no, no, because usually when you have a match, it that's over
in two minutes, something happens after the match. So it could be what you're saying, does happen my grandpa's and John Deane right right. But but I regardless, I was hoping that would be that'll be like okay, before you mentioned it, calson that it's gonna be as a prize, like you know, like I expect that the person that's gonna face face someone type of situation, right that right, that would that would probably be a good way
to bring her in. And my take on on what you said about on the other brand, no, it's you don't want to burn that bridge the second time around, like some someone else that should not be named because this isn't we're to talk about A and W. So I'm just gonna say that. Well, you know, here's the thing and all right, so initially I was thinking about Mariah May as well, Renee. But here's the thing, Mercedes Monet has not wrestled in a match since May. She's been injured.
Mm hmm. We all know what she can do. Yeah. The fact of the matter is is that when she does debut for AAW or whoever she debuts for, she's not going to be ring ready per se. We just saw this with thunder Rosa. She came back and she did not get into the ring no matter. She was a former world champion for AW, but she had limited time in the ring because she doesn't have her ring legs
under her yet. Okay, so that's why I kind of disagree with you, sleazy, and like I said, I'll give you a chance to both of you a chance to for rebuttal on my comments here. But I don't see her going to first. First things first, I do not see her going into a singles run right away wherever she ends up. But let's we're doing hypothetical here with AW. I don't see her going against Britt Baker's singles
right away or anybody else. It's going to be a tag team because they've got to give her time to work things out, and the only way you work things out after an absence is by getting in the ring look at the match after CM Punk came back that he had with Ricky Starks. I believe that was his first singles match when he came back on collision and Starks literally carried him through the match because Punk just did not have his legs under him
yet. So that's one point I'm gonna make so I don't and for the same reason, disagree with you again. Sleazy with Britt Baker is Britt Baker has been away for quite a while too. She's in the same situation in my opinion, where she has to get her legs under her again. I do believe that Mercedes Monett when she comes or if she comes to AW is going to be in a tag team situation. The question is which tag team Who's she going to tag with? Most people would say May, maybe Soria,
you know, or even Mariah May. But I'm going to go to Sleay, what do you think about what I said? You know about my opinion, And I'm also interested to say if we were going to do a tag team because I have somebody in mind from Mercedes Monet as a tag partner, and I think I may surprise people if we're going to do a tag
team who would you put as Mercedes Bonet's tag partner. Well, first of all, I mean I don't really think tagging for her would be realistic, solely for the fact that, you know, if we're doing with another wrap this man over here, she's probably gonna be like, oh no, I want singles read. But anyway, in terms of possible tag team partners,
I'm gonna have to disagree with you want Soria. I mean, you could bring out that whole outcast thing, which she'd only be able to breathe in new life into it for like five seconds, and would go back to being a pile of crap. I agree, there's not really a whole lot of options. I guess you could go with Serena Deep I never even thought of
that. That's a pretty interesting I mean, if they're not doing indie reps because they think they're so ego centry, like like they're above indies now because they're major companies or whatever, they don't want to do that, then they should get in the tag team together. But yeah, what about you, Renee, what do you think what's a good tag partner for Mercedes Monet if he does need a tag partner? Who knows they may put it right in
the singles. I don't know that's an interesting pick a storing deep. I just can't see it for some reason. I don't know why, and honestly I can't pick if anyone else like okay, maybe like maybe, yet singles is probably the way to go, like another plant too, like god for bid, it goes with the outcasts, like like it's about that either, No, guys like sure, like sure, I agree with you. The numbers will grow, like let's say the utter faction from the other brand that
will not be named. But no, it just doesn't feel right, Like I I still think that right now, she like get get her an opponent, a decent one at least for singles, and then maybe go from there from you know, from Tony conn and Company's side, where she should do what she's do, like put her as you know, put her in a tag team, park matching or whatever it is. So that's what I think,
you know, sleazy. I never thought of Serena d But that's a really, really good choice in my opinion, if Tony Khan was smart, he would use Mercedes Monette to elevate the women's division from the ground up. I'm not talking about, you know, literally the ground, but from the mid card. Let's let's look at the mid card. My pick and this is this is I'm gonna tell you why I'm making this pick. My pick for a potential partner for Mercedes Monet is Red Velvet. Okay, okay.
And the reason I'm picking Red Velvet is because I honestly believe if Mercedes Monette shows up in a w she is gonna have a mini program with a certain person. But that certain person is not going to be a mini is not gonna be a program where it's gonna be one on one, It's gonna be tag teams. So let's look at somebody. Who that person is is somebody
who is a contender or a champion who has a tag partner already. And if you remember it all in, Mercedes Monett did watch one match in particular with interest and one female wrestler with interest, and that wrestler was Julia Hart. And for whatever reason I don't know, but they constantly showed her when Julia Hart was in the ring with the acclaimed versus House of Black match.
So if you had Mercedes Monet in Red Velvet against Julia Hart and sky Blue for you know, like a mini program just to get you know, Mercedes Monette a few matches, to get her feed under her again, because look, the last thing I want to see is Mercedes Monet not being one hundred percent going into a ring against the likes of Tony Storm or even Chris Statlander or something like that and not do well in a one on one match.
You see where I'm You see what I'm saying there. So that's why I'm thinking, you know, tag Man, what do you think about I mean, I know it's really out there, but Red Velvet, what do you think of that? Pleasi? Well, I'm surprised that you know, you would even consider her, considering the fact that her entrance was ribbed by Taya Valkyrie and those two her pretty much and the irrelevant bowels of irrelevantness in aw right now, So pretty surprised. Choice. Well, Tya Valkyrie has been
doing really well in Ring of Honors. She's got a street going there, you know, kind of kind of along the line of what's going on with with Athena. Of course, not quite as many wins, but she has, right, she is racking up some some wins over the people be broken by Tay and let by Athena because she did the same thing with Laila Hirsh,
so now they're going to do the same thing with Tya Valkyrie. The only difference between Athena, I mean between Layla Hirsh and Tya Valkyrie is Tyer Valkyrie has been working uh tag matches as well, you know, quite a bit and doing really well. She's been working with the renegades of all all people, which which I like because you've got an experienced wrestler with two wrestlers
that could use guidance, you know. You know, anything that anything that an experienced wrestler does with a younger or less experienced wrestler, is it furthers the furthers a division. I'll just put it that way. Renee, what did you think about my red velvet proposal? I'm okay with that now, because again I don't have nobody else. I think that you can take out the pool. I just maybe I'll finish just say, I do not want a lie with you your heart for something. Yeah, I mean I don't
either. I don't want her. I don't want her to go after the TBS Championship, but I'm gonna be honest with you here, Renee, I don't want her to go after the world championship either, at least not right away, because let's face it, you know, it would be preposterous for a w not to give Mercedes Monette the World championship eventually. But if you give it to her too soon, it kind of diminishes the Yeah, I don't know how to put it, the the the anxiety and the you know,
the weight for her to have her moment. If you give her a moment too soon, you your shot, you know what I'm saying. So so that's you know, it's just interesting. I just do. I just really believe that there's gonna be a tag team going out of this in some way, shape or form, whether it's Red Velvet or somebody like Layla Hirsh or somebody. I think that they're going to give Monett tag team matches. And I think that would happen if she went to TNA, if she went
to WWE, if she went to Japan. She is coming off an injury and she hasn't wrestled in what she got injured in May, so it's been seven seven months since she's even stepped into a wrestling ring. So you know, you gotta take some baby steps. You gotta take some care with this. You know, it's not like she's coming from one company to another. That's not what happened. I do, I do want to move on now, but I want to talk a little bit about out some fallout from World's
End. As we all know by now, I hope you guys know that MGF has been removed from aw's roster list. Yep, I did so. And of course everybody's looking at it and saying it's a work sleazy Do you think it's a work. Uh, well, kind of has to be. I mean, I'm just I'm looking at all these other people, all these other news that it's being like, oh my god, mgf's going to WW And mac Gain literally happened during the what I'm now calling the summer of MTF,
when he was literally nowhere to be seen. This happened back then, and guess what he came back that one pay per view. What do you call it? Oh? Yeah? All out? So and I mean like like we're literally calming off of the climax of the Devil story. So, and the thing is, why would you let somebody go who has just held your belt for a record amount of days. Tony Kahan has not left though, of that man. He would not have put the strap on that man
unless he signed an extension. So be prepared when he comes back, probably in a few months to recover from his injuries, to come back on a dynamite or pay per view or lead up to all in, hopefully not a lead up to Forbidden Door, because screw Forbidden Door, and he's gonna come back and everyone's gonna be like mg have to not sign with w WE, Gosh Docker. Yeah, take that news media outlets. Yeah, you know here, let me ask you this sleazy and of course, Renee, I'll
pose the same question to you after sleezy answers. We all know that EDGF is injured. M hm, So do you think the injury had something to do with him losing the title or do you think he was gonna lose it any way, even if if, even if he wasn't injured. I honestly think he was gonna lose it anyway. Does that mean why would you, like, here's the thing, de mo would Joe? I think it was before all the devil stuff and mgf's injuries and stuff, he dropped the ROAH
title. Just it's just like being like, Okay, I'm not the champion anymore because I'm just so good. And then he moves on to the aw World Championship. You're really gonna make him look that week, just you know, after being such a strong rh TV champion. No, that's not what you know. Yeah, it was then that he du that he had left up. Yeah you know that kind of thing, right, like why would you drop the belt a vacate a belt right in the center of aw ring
at that lose your next big title match for day? What do you think about this? Do you think that m JF was gonna was destined to lose
that match? Anyway? I was hoping name JF will found a way to beat Joe because he did be him last time, if I were right, yes, and and of course I did see a pay per view, but I saw the highlights, and yeah, that was surprising, especially like I said and the other podcast, or was you know, given the fact that gave a big entrance, and I think yet before it, you know, in other words, you get the big homecoming, right, one would think
of everything will be on his side. So and I saw the same thing that Sleezy said, like out there, especially wrestling rabbles on YouTube mentioned it in there they yo, but rumors said he was going to go to mg to the other brand, you know, and I didn't. I was like,
how would you do this? First of all, because m j F, for first, we know he's one of the top tier wrestlers that you got on any w and there'll be a bull move for letting you go for nothing, you know, and hopefully there's the there's gonna be a handshaking between Tony Kahan and MGF down the road because of the reason I just mentioned, guys, because what's gonna happen next if he goes somewhere else? Like will will they? Will they go bankrupt or just or anything else will go sideways?
Who knows? Well, well, you never know from week to week, day to day what's going on. I mean, stuff happens and then stuff is retracted. You know, we did not even touch on the Chris Jericho thing that's going on, and I am not going to touch on it, but that's a good example. The words, the stuff that came out last week is just kind of totally change direction this week. You know what I mean, so things things happen. It's it's fluid, it's dynamic.
You know. The one thing that I don't understand is, you know, and I may be totally off base here, but you know, looking through social media, Twitter x, Instagram and things like that, we all know that Andrade wrestled his last match on December thirtieth. We know that MGF lost the title on December thirtieth, and of course the bidding war of twenty twenty four for MGF started on January first, and Andrade has already announced that he
has left the company. On January first, his contract ran was up and he is a free agent. And like even the Dirt Sheets, there were a couple of Dirt Sheets who expected Andrade to show up on Raw last night. We are recording this on Tuesday. Whatever happened to thirty day non compete clauses? I mean, I don't know what aw's contracts look like and if they even have non competes, but in my mind, you don't have Andrade
leave on January first and appear on January first on another network. That hasn't happened since the Monday Night Wars. That's why they put the don compete clauses in there, you know what I mean. So, and people were shocked that Androtti did not show up at RAW last night, and it blew my mind, it really did, because again, I don't know what aw's policies are on wrestlers who have their contracts run out? Is there a company?
Is there a don compete clause on the contracts? Are not? It just seems like common sense to me. I don't think you're going to see andrade a in WWE if that is where he's going to go, which makes perfect sense because his wife is there. I don't think you're going to see him there for you know, a few weeks at at that best. Now I could be wrong, but so MGF lost the belt, and I know this is something that's sleazy, really want to talk about. So you know,
here, here's the thing. In the media scrum after World's End, somebody asked Tony Kahn what the future is for the women's division and specifically said, are there going to be tag team belts? Well, look, we already have a new belt in the Continental title. We spoke about this a little bit in the Sunday Morning Ship Talk. Okay, but now Tony conn seems open to forming a women's tag team belt now when this is brought up on
social media or whatever. One of the biggest arguments I know Sleezy has this argument as well because he said it in the past, is that AW has too many belts that I can agree with, but they have meaningless belts as well that they need to either consolidate or get rid of entirely. So sleazy, what is your stance on maybe having a women's tag division? And do AW have too many belts? If? Right now, aw's belt crisis is
sort of at nearing critical mass. I mentioned it on the discord server at some point with the picture of Eddie Kingston on the roster page with the Continental Championship. But I mean it's nearing critical mass. You add an AW Women's Tag Team Championship right now, there's too many bells. There's just too many bells. They're simple as that. Now my solution in order to fix this so we can get back on track and TK can stop whinding about knee and
and more toys. It's very simple. Okay, you have a merger with the International Championship and the Continental Championship. Boom, you just fix like half your problems, so once those emerge, you're pretty much good to go. Okay, if you did the merger between the International and Continental Championship, what do you call the new championship? Just rename one into the other and merger
or something like that, give or take. And I mean that's that would mostly be up to Tony Conn. I don't really have an idea of what you would do after you emerged the belts if I'm gonna okay, RVD, Sorry, RVD needs to get get back to wrestling so we can start merging those belts. Okay. So we've eliminated one belt by merging the Continental and International Championship. Are there any other belts that you see if that could be
either eliminated or merged? Hm? You know, that's a really good question. If I'm If I'm gonna be honest here the TVs Championship. I did here a few months ago that people were saying, oh, turn the TBS Championship and to tag titles. At first, I was strongly against the idea because I thought that would hamper the belt crisis. But now that I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking, Hm, maybe that could help us. Just just turn that into the tag titles and need to have no need for a
new women's tag division. I think that I'm the one that said that, actually. But the problem with that is is that if you have a TBS chair, look, a TBS Championship is kind of like a free advertisement for Warner Brothers Discovery. They owned TBS, they own TNT. If you were going to do that, get rid of the TBS Championship, which has become quite prestigious over the last few months. When stat Lander and Hart had it,
it was nothing when when Cargo had it. Frankly, in my opinion, if you took away the TBS Championship, would you have to do something with the TNT Championship as well, not saying get rid of it, but maybe rename it to maybe the TNTTBS Championship. Hmm. I mean yeah, that would depend on whether or not Warner would allow intergender wrestling, you know. So if you had those two belts merge into one, then make it
a whole intergender class, now that would be fucking awesome. Right. So, so we've we've eliminated, we've merged the Continental Championship with the International Championship. We've kind of sort of maybe done something with the TBS Championship. Is there any other belts that you could think of? Hmmm No, not really? Okay, what about you and A? Are there anything that you would
merge or eliminate to create more spots for more meaningful belts? So we can't take the TNC and the TBS belt because it's a Warburg's property, correct, right, well it's not. I mean it's aw property. But they're doing
it to advertise Warner brother product. Right, Okay, since that that was the only other thing I could think of, But then again, you know they'll be, they'll be just maybe I want one or two less belts that someone once again just just for the sake of saying, hey, I got I won this, you know when it's like the way you bring a Stanley Cup type of thing. But anyways, Uh, I agree with Selasie with says, uh and worst eliminate, eliminate those in the intercontinent? Is that
right? Uh? Merging the international and yeah, that's good. Probably the only thing you can do at the moment, like other not As I said, he can't take out the TVs and t A Tea because it's a winner Warner Discovery brand. But however, I still think you can, we still can make a tag team belt for for both sides. It's it's just just for the sake. It's like so anyone, anyone has a chance to to
compete and win it. You know, I know, I know both of you are saying that both the belts to downsized, but just I don't know, just just feel rising. No, no men's women's tag team belts. You know there is a men's tag team belt. Yeah, starts a big bill. I don't you, I don't know. I'm sorry. The tag team without a name, the tag team without a name that are the attack team, but are two singles wrestlers right right each other. I apologize,
I understanding because look, did they defend an ed World's End? No? No, they be give an eight like a right tag group of man tag team match. It's just like the outer one, which still didn't make no sense to me. But that's not the point, you know, my Here's here's the thing. Okay, the men's tag team definitely has to stay. I truly believe we need a women's tag title. Okay, I agree. Another belt that was not defended at World's End and really hasn't had, But
I think maybe one defense in in weeks is the Trios Championship. I've never liked that belt. Get rid of it. I mean, it's totally, totally meaningless. It's it's a detriment, to be honest with you, because it's taking There aren't enough trios in a w to have a trios Championship. Billy Gunn is currently one of the members of the acclaimed well that Billy Gunn, and he's not going to be around forever. So what are you gonna do? Everybody that I mean, top Flight and Action Andretti couldn't get it
done. I mean the House of Black, they lost it to them, you know, and now they're looking like they're gonna be a tag team. I mean they're going into Malchi Black and Brody Brody Buddy Matthews. I'm sorry, you're going after FDR on collision. Brody King just did the whole Continental Classic thing. The Trios Championship could easily be take it away and made into the into the women's tag team. I do agree with you, Sleazy,
that the International Championship and the Continental Championship should be merged. I really do believe that. I know that I've said this before, and you know you guys don't agree with me on this, or I know Sleazy doesn't, But the FDW Championship is a waste, you know, so that I mean, there's no prestige there, and frankly it's a a W has a thing where I believe. Let me ask you this in all honesty, which this is for Sleezy and for for Renee. Which a W title belts are upper tier
belts right now? Have you know Tier A champions and that's that Sleezy, go tell me which ones? Well, that would be the AW World Championship, Okay, and Netty, that's it now in the past. Well, let me go to let me go to Renee real quick because I'm gonna ask you both another question. Which which titles in a W right now? The title belts do you think are A the A class. I'm with Sleazi on the on the the one that didn't Jeff last, uh, But the rest
of them, it's it's like it's hard to say, you know. Okay, I'm gonna name off the titles and you guys tell me whether they're a class or you know, top tier, you know, mid card or lower card? Uh? Okay, So we have the a W Men's World Championship. That's top that's that's top card. It's the same for me, okay, a W Women's World Championship. So it's kind of between the top tier
in mid card for you. For me, it's gonna to be because it'smever, it's men's and women's divisions, right, it has to be top tier for the for the women's side to go chase that that belt. Okay, Well, I think that the AW Men's Championship is a top tier card a title. I do think that the the a W Women's Championship should be a top tier title, and it sometimes is and sometimes it falls to just above
mid card. It just depends on who holds it. Okay. The tn T title sleazy mm hmmm plus So you think that's a mid card title, and uh but it's a C plus meaning mid card, the higher mid card. Okay. And just before we go up and go on, what about the TVs title even with hard I have to say a D. So you think it's a lower mid card Okay, what about you renee the TNT title and then the TBS title. It's like you can basically flip up eight or one to be honest, guys. But but the correct answer to me can
sincerely established at the Awn's Whim's titles are top tier. I would think it's probably gonna have to be a mid card, Okay, mid card. I agree with both of you. I do believe that the TBS, the TNT title. I kind of gotta go with Sleazy. I think the t TNT title is a mid card title, but it's been elevated a little bit with Christian Okay, yeah, let's not talk about that. Yeah that, But and I do think that the TBS titles is a mid card time all right.
So the tag team titles, I mean, we've had some pretty good tag teams in that in there right now, you know, holding those tag titles FTR, the bucks, et cetera, et cetera, the tag team without a name. Where would you put the tag titles, Sleazy, that would be so kind of a upper mid card or a lower top card. Yeah, okay, what about you, Reday? Yeah, so that so
I agree with Sleazy here too. Like returns of belts, I would put in after the world the world haveweight championship belt because that's what of course, that's the way you want to go for if you're a tag team, right, that's right, right, right. So, by the way, I'm not talking about the wrestlers you hold the titles. I'm talking about the titles themselves, the prestige, the pristige for the titles. Yeah, and that's what I'm going by to. Okay, so let's stop. Let's talk about
the trios title sleazy what did you what did you say? B plus C plus So basically maybe an upper mid card title for you? Okay? Uh? For me, well, it was see when it first brought out as much as long as I remember, guys, it was well, it was kind of it was like in a shiny joy. But you're right, Kelston. Over over the last a little bit, it's been downward danger and it's nothing. I guess the claim because I'm gonna put Daddy as s part the
claim. Okay, I don't know. It's just there's not many contenders that could compete. Although I still think, and I said it on the chat on for on the rampage chats, that I give it, let me get to it, let me get to it, that I still think top flight in a dream have shot. But anyways, I would have to put it. I have to agree with with Slazy. Was it you said class? He said, so you said C plus I don't remember now yeah yeah,
yeahah yeah, because because there's lots of shine, you know. Yeah, that's why like for me, for me, for prestige trios, absolutely a lower card. Okay, I don't think that it's one of those that whoever wins it is seen as a champion there. It's like a it's like a consolation prize for somebody who couldn't win the tag team belts. I don't know,
it's it's the way I look at it, all right. So here's the here here we're gonna we're gonna combine the Continental and International Championships prestige for the International and Continental Championships, they are currently F tier F okay and and renee What was it again, guys? If you be if we're gonna merge the continental and International championship, what tier would that be? Considering who is who is the champion and we're the champions in the past, of course,
the International Championship has only had won two champions really something like that? Yeah, would be wrong to say, like, uh, okay was the Jeff when his guy's belt until he lost I would put underneath that. Okay, So you're gonna say, is like a B like an upper mid card, no actually below the world the world every championship, okay, so like a top card, you know, just a lower top card like okay, So
maybe I'll try this way. The Belt haveway Championship number one, number two be what what you're you're asking for, right, Okay, So one would be the a W Men's Championship and the Continental International Championship number two I'm going to say that, well, look, with the International and Continental Championship, I've i've for the first couple of months that that Orange Cassidy held the belt, I was on board, and that it became painful to even pay attention
to. And the Continental Championship to me is completely an utterly mean because of who got it. Uh So I've given it an f myself. I've given it the absolute Both of them are the maybe worse than the trios and as far as meaning absolutely meaningless for me. And I get that there's people that I'm not discounting the great matches in the in the Continental title and the great
matches that Orange Cassidy has had with defending his international title. Alls I'm saying is that we've got the I mean international title is being being is being defended against jobbers on rampage. There's no prestige to it now, and the continental title to me is completely meaningless because Eddie Kingston has it. That's just my opinion, right, you know. So that's that. Are there any belts that we missed? Oh oh, this one's going to be interesting. FTW
Championship sleazy, go ahead. You Well, if we're talking outside of my opinion on how prestigious it is, we're talking about in the logical grand scheme of things or we're talking my opinion, well you could say you could even say both. And you're I know, you're a fan of the FTW Championship, so you're going to think that it's, you know, probably more prestigious than what others would think. But you could also say what you think other
the prestige you think it holds for others as well? Well? In terms of my of my personal and totally humble opinion, it is a plus plus hyper Donkey Kong Deluxe Edition. So you think of today, you think it's a top tier card. Yes, even though no top tier wrestlers have ever challenged for it. Okay, and what do you what do you think the perception is as for the current perception around it, which yeah, I'd say d plus o guys, you think it's an upper bid mid card file perceived.
Yeah, okay, uh, Renee, what do you think put it on put it on her anything? Continental belt? Because what based on what test has set up in his commentary in the last little bit, I think including the pay per view, it's like it's it's some perceived even though it's not an official belt, but there has there has been a few people who have all the belt we will not name because you know, you know, we know who they are. So that's what I think about it. Okay,
zeb be number three, Okay, it'll be number three. To me, it's right there with the Trios Championship. I mean, it's a zero hour belt okay, that rarely gets defended on TV. And frankly, that's that's my feeling about it. It's it's a completely meaningless belt, has no
meaning at all. There's no talk about it, there's I don't know it just it is what it is. But anyway, I mean, the gist of the matter is is that there are varying opinions on the prestige of a W titles Right now, one thing I do want to say, and I don't know, and I'm gonna ask if you agree with this, and they've gotten a little better at this, Actually a W should be about winning and
defending contesting for AW titles, not Ring of Honor titles. Do you guys agree with that or do you think that having Ring of Honor matches ads prestige to aw TV. Well here here's the deal, at least from my perspective, all right, ever since I got here onto this podcasting deal is uh, get the honor out of aw It's kind of like it's it's kind of like WWE's doing, or like get the f out. I'm like, get
the honor out now. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that we can never have other belts in this promotion, you know, but the fact of the matter is they can't be showing up on a weekly basis. It should just be more so like a special occasion like what Christian Cage and Kenny Omega were doing back in the pandemic with the TNA title and whatever the hell Kenny Omega was doing with the Triple A title back in the Pandemic or whatever
the hell Kenny Omega was doing with the Impact title back the Pandemic. You see what I'm saying here. Absolutely, you know I'm spoil alert. I agree with you undred percent sleazy. I mean, can can't say it better than you did. It's just special occasion, yes, but having there was this entirely too many matches for ROH titles, you know, on AWTV.
And and here's the other thing. If we recall the build up to All Out twenty twenty two EXCaliber, the play by play guy who was trying to announce all of the matches for aew all Out had to mention it probably I might be wrong about this at least like seven or eight title matches. And in the middle of it he lost his breath and he had to take a breather. That's saying something, you know, all right? Well, yeah, Redee Renee, what do you think? You know? What is your
take on a W having. Do we have too many Ring of Honor matches title matches on on a W for the well for I don't think so, because this is going to be very controversially saying this, but since I know, I know you can get it on our club. But for a guy like me who can't get it, it's like, at least you got to see salt from r o AH coming up on a W program at least,
and and have and show it to at least the audience. It shows on their networks of T T and TBS, you know, because I've mentioned many times when the case We're Eating even Paige you know, wasn't a W and he went to r o H and p back but to fight against Cam which was not. There was no belts. But the point is least you got people coming up from that that formo that from our age to a W just for that reason for those who have never seen before. And that's what I
sort of like about that. But the only thing, maybe the only thing they could do, like yes, you can have the belts, but tone it down to to I don't know, to what, do as little as possible and maybe maybe maybe do definitely have to show it on occasion, but no, like uns's the only thing I can think of. They're just doing as filler because you know the time that they have the two hour on say
Collision or Dynamite or at least one hour on ramp page. So okay, fair enough, So I just want to touch before we before we wrap things up, I want to touch briefly on the matches that we have for Dynamite tomorrow, we have Maria May and Queen Amanada, we square Strickland and Daniel Garcia, and for the International Championship, Orange Cassidy and Dante Martin. Sleazy,
what should those three matches? Are you most intrigued about? Well, I'm certainly not intrigued about Mariah Way versus Queen and Mantis, simply because I'm just going who. But I guess are you? Are you saying who for both of them or just one of them? Both of them? Okay, yeah, I guess. I'm more so confused about the Orange Casting versus Dante
Martin match. I thought that was gonna be an Orange Cassidy plus best Friends versus Action Andretti and Top Flight Trios match, but thank god it's not anyway. So I guess the Swears Strickland and Daniel Garcia match that got announced, I'm pretty intrigued about that. I mean, they were just in the Continental Trash files, so I mean, what the hell is going to happen? Okay, what about you, Renee, What's what shall those matches? Has
you intrigued the most? So I already I already said what I said about the the Many Crown. That's gonna be a squashed matter for two minutes. And I feel bad because you know, I'm where our name is has some moments that you can go. But we can scratch that off there the I I'm like Sleza, I'm interested of Swerve and dank Garcia, like see what happens, like if it's going to because don't forget dank Garcia has backup from the former jas or what are two point zero and of course uh Swerve has
his backup with who he's aligned with. So but I but I'm just gonna say right now, I just think Swerve someone's gonna find a way to win that match and the last one Cassidy and uh Mark Dante Martin, Like, I'll be honest with you, I wanted to see tough flight, which I'm gonna put action during as part as as that against against the best friends, because I thought what they did before it was it was awesome to see. But nevertheless, I really think in my mind that Dante mar is gonna win
that win it, I really do. You'll find a way. So that's an interesting take. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you, Renee, I don't and and sleazy because you both said it. I'm happy with the Orge Cassidy and Dante Martin match. I do think Orge Cassidy is going to win. But but you know, I much prefer this match to a you know, this is a meaningful match for a championship belt, and it should be a good match for the championship belt, whereas if we
have a trio's match, it's probably gonna be a forgettable match. Not saying it won't be good, I'm just saying it'd be forgettable for nothing. No, I don't know. I just I still think that notch that they already had before it was unre page that because I comment on the not on the
reddit one, but the show Luchet on Discords did. I thought I liked this because the crazy stuff that went on between everybody, you know, like it was just like it was weeks ago for Top Light dre Facing wherever they face the valid Kingo where we want to call them so but yeah, I mean, look, I'm intrigued by all three of the matches, to be
honest with you. Uh, since we did really touch on Mariah May and Queen Amanada, I'm gonna touch on that if we do get Mercedes Monet, We're probably gonna get Mercedes Monet in this match, unless she just comes out
randomly, like if somebody's doing a promo and whatnot. Well, we're more certainly gonna see is probably Tony Storm and how she reacts to Mariah May getting some spotlight on Dynamite, and she may not be happy about it, and this may drive a little bit of a wedge between Mariah May and the deranged Tony Storm, you know, arcissistic Tony Storm. You know, I really wish that Mariah May had had a more familiar opponent, like somebody like Sky
Blue or Ruby soho. Even because if you've not seen Mariah May and Wressel, she can really go. She's brutal. I mean, she's she's a bumping machine. She can take it and she can dish it out. She's very much She's not as big as say, like Chris Statlander, and she's not as strong as Chris Statlander, but she gives that kind of a Chris Statlander Aura. She's got the athleticism of somebody like Julia Hart Lady Frost. She's just I think she's gonna she's I think she's gonna win a lot of
people over. She's given the opportunity to win people over. It would be nice to see those people that you mentioned to Kelsey and Ley Frossten, whoever it is. But yeah, I agree with your assessment on a storm that you know that she's gonna have her diva moment and then something's gonna happen between those two. I uh yeah. Before we wrap things up, I want to get to our spicy predictions for tonight, and I'll go first and give
you guys a little bit of a chance to think about it. Of course, when you get the spicy predictions, the word on everybody's lips is Mercedes Monette. Is she going to debut tomorrow night? I don't think so, to be honest with you, but we may get another woman that will possibly debut tomorrow night, and that's Dianna Parrazzo. Don't be surprised. Don't be surprised. Sorry, you know that's don't be surprised. If that happens.
So let's go to sleazy. Do you have any spicy predictions for tomorrow night? Well, first, I'd like to comment on that last prediction once again. Well, if you don't, if you don't know, if you don't know Dianna Parozzo, I think you should go look her up, buddy,
hopefully. I mean, I mean, yeah, okay, on that no, seriously, seriously, if in the free agent market right now, in all honesty, if if you look at the free agents, on the free agent women specifically, I think you'd be surprised how many people have Diana Parrazzo is number one over Mercedes Martinez, Bartinis, Martinez Monett. She's again, she is a gat she now she is more of a powerhouse. She's not like the athletic type that you would get with, you know, somebody like
Mariah May, Mercedes Monette, Julia Hart. She's more of a I'm gonna beat the snot out of you type of type of wrestler. She's an imposing she's imposing, but that way. But it's so she has a totally different style. But my god, is she good. She really is good? Right, Well, hopefully Mercedes Mercedes Mona does not enter ado you because I fear another wrapis man situation happened. But anyway, in terms of spicy predictions, I do not have any spice. I need to buy some from Dollar
General. Of course, Well I have a I can't believe you went through an entire entire podcasts Leazi wellout mentioning Jungle Boy. Do you think there's any chance of him showing up tomorrow night? Oh yeah, I hope to God so so we can claim what is rightfully his, which is the ft W Championship. No, I thought you were going to say the window. No, oh thank you. All right, all right, Redee, we're wrapping up, So give us your spicy prediction for tomorrow night's dynam I'm I'm gonna
eliminate that the Jungle Boy getting the W going for w belts. Okay, that's what the real spice prediction is. The Devil the Devil's Man will show up on on Dynamite or or red page and going rock shaw and kick kicking ass and taking names of everybody, everybody, kind of like the NWOL yep, pretty much. You still take a page of us of that playbook and
it's like show that we run this company, not toty Khn. It's us because if you saw, you saw who was there, and I'm still shocked of all the people that they had, which I'm gonna just go over one more time. You have Roderick, you have Warlow, you have the Kingdom there besides Adam, which I'm still surprised that he was part of it after I say for months and months, there's no freaking way he could be part of that, considering what he went through and then Dan being friends with m
J F and all like rap. So that's my prediction. The Devil, the Devil's man are gonna start causing ship. Oh right, you think everyone's gonna start throwing trashing them and they're gonna drop a drop a leg on some popular guy or whatever. An ancles could like, this is the devil warkeping organization. Brother, I don't see like that. Those lazy but I just think that there now that they establish the people that are part of this faction, if you will, maybe they'll add a few more people as well.
They're gonna cause havoc to anybody that they're step up. Maybe they could go get against House of the House of Black. As far as I'm concerned. You know, it's gonna be interesting because look, also to morrow night we have Christian Cage coming out giving a basically a stated union address to help us into the aw fans, which is gonna be funny. But are we gonna see the Devil and or his goons tomorrow night? And uh, you know
there's a question. Maybe we'll talk about this tomorrow night after we see We'll talk about it on All Leak Talk tomorrow night after we see what happens on Dynamite, Right. But what I'm more interested in this was people are really not talking about this, is that Samoa Joe, the new aaw Men's World Champion, somebody who was known for his honor and not going against this word, went against his word with MJF and and he worked with the Devil and
his goons. Now, was this a one off kind of thing or is he going to continue to somehow work with the Devil and his goons? Maybe not as a full time goon or so to speak, but is he going to be involved to a point where he's going to just kind of show up randomly at opportune times to take advantage of different things. And if anybody does challenge Samoa Joe for the aw Men's title because you know, Revolutions coming up, so he is going to need a challenger. And will the Goons and
the Devil get involved in that. That's a pretty interesting question and some of that may be set in motion tomorrow night on aw Dynamite and after aw Dynamite we will be doing all lead talk and of course during aw Dynamite, we will be having a live chat on our subreddit aw fan Hub for Sleazy and Renee. This is Kelson. Thank you for listening to Ignition. Good night everybody, Hi, y else,