This is identity at the center OK. Thank you. So much for being here this. Afternoon sleeping, afternoon well. We have a special treat for you today. It is a game, it is interactive. I hope you brought your energy. Can you please welcome Jim McDonald, Jeff? Stedman. For identity. And the center. Majority roll. Thank you. People hear me. OK, OK, good. Thumbs up. All right, All right, so now for something completely different. Are you going to learn anything? Probably not.
Are you going to be entertained? Hopefully so this is Identity Center Majority rules. This is a game show that Jim and I like to do from time to time, different conferences for those people who are not familiar Identity Center is the two of us. It is our nightly weekend job. We've been doing podcasts for about 6 years. IDC podcast.com like I subscribe vendor neutral podcast every Monday morning we. Usually do it from thousands of miles away. Might look like we're right next
to each other, but we're not. We're going to fake network connection. Very difficulties. While we're out here on the stage. So let me ask my lovely Vanna standing back there, Sean, he's going to be helping me to run the game. First thing I need you to do, phone, tablet, computer, go to our website, CCG dot buzz and enter that code. This is a game that is all about you guys and what the audience thinks about different questions. It is not a quiz show to test knowledge.
This is preferences, favorites, and hopefully we're going to have some fun and have some conversation around that. So as people are getting joined in, I assure you the website is safe. You'll have to trust me on that. We'll see some players kind of get in. So go ahead and start getting joined in. I'll explain the rules as we're going as we're getting set up here. So you're going to see questions on the screen and you're going to vote on your favorite answer.
Theoretically, there will be multiple viable answers, and we will have 5050 splits, things like that. You get points for answering quickly, but you only get points if you select the majority answer. Makes sense. That makes sense as we go along here. But the faster you respond and the faster you pick that majority answer, the more points you get. There's a leaderboard, so we'll show the top 20 scores at any given point as you go along.
And we're playing for a free pass to identifiers Las Vegas next year. So thanks to our friends at Cyber Risk Alliance. Chris, give her a round of applause. So free ticket. You'll see that and a free identity at the center sticker, right? We will be podcasting as well later today. We have a little spot over in the next room, so we hope to see people there. Try to think if I didn't miss anything. I don't think so, but the cheat code is.
You're not picking the right answer, you're picking what you think most people will answer. Right, so if you want to stare at other people's computers or devices, see what they're picking, you know, that's another way to play the game. We will spice it up in a little bit. Not quite yet. Everyone will always have a chance to win at the end. So if you think you're losing, you're not worried there will be a chance to come back towards
the end. OK, so Sean, in the upper right click that update fire count and let's see how many people we've got on the on the game so far. Should be at least one. Hopefully it's a really boring game. There's nobody connected to the game. All right, 72. OK, all right, so let's hit start the game and let's see what we got down here. I think a little bit of animation will play. We have no sound effects, unfortunately, so you just have to imagine very, very, very cool sound effects playing.
So all right, so now we just go and let's hit. See the first question. So Sean, if you don't mind me, just hit that spacebar. All right? Oh, nothing. Friends mentioned questions are totally randomized. Some are I am, some are not. So worst conference slag to pack home. Let's see what the choices are. Hit the spacebar. We've got a stress ball or a cheap T-shirt. So this is a nice warm up question. Let's go ahead and open it up for voting.
And you have about 10 seconds to respond once that starts. So imagine whatever theme music you would like for voting. Thinking time, Jim, what do you think? Stressful or Cheap's T-shirt? I answer what I think is the honest answer, which is the cheap T-shirt. You think that's the worst sweat? I think stressful. Of those stressful, takes up very little space, you might use a cheap T-shirt you wear once and that's it. OK, all right, well, let's see what the audience thinks. Sound effects.
All right, 58% think that a stress ball sucks. I'm with you. I don't. I'm not a stress ball fan. So does this make sense? Start understanding on this place. All right, let's see what the scoreboard looks like. Oh, see, sound effects, all that stuff going on. All right, I'm not even going to try to pronounce that. Karova, Sivan and Karov, 92 points. Raise your hand if you're one of those two people. OK, we got one in the back and one over here. OK, Karov. OK, so Viva Las Vegas.
That's interesting. We'll see if we have any funding coming up here. All right, so let's go to the next question and see what we've got. We got totally randomized. Let's see, 79 people are playing. OK, what is the best way to reply to why access was denied? Let's see the answer choices here. Is it, hey, check the policy or I don't know, just send me the logs and let's figure it out. Let's open up for voting. Jim. What do you think? Policy we're sending up?
Jim's playing at Jim. 'S oh, I'm playing. He's trying to gain this. I want to win that three tickets. I Denver, actually I would say the sticker, but I've got like 8000. Of them so far, yeah. Send me logs OK? Sudden logs. Let's see what the audience thinks. 50 All right, Kind of see what we've got going on here. All right, let's see what that does for our leaderboard. Deshawn taking over Olivia Roby, All right. Love it. OK. And I see Andy's up there as
well. So congratulations, Andy here in the top top 20. All right, let's get to the next question. 82 people are playing so far. How does AI improve science or customer or consumer or citizen IAM? What are the options we've got here to choose from? Is it smarter fraud detection or personalized journeys? Let's open that up for voting. Jim, what do you think? I think smarter fraud protection I. Think that's the easy answer, yeah. And. That's what we're going for, right?
I mean, what are the most people going to answer? I'm still waiting for the. Options. OK, let's, let's. All right, so we've got the ability. Let's see what the audience thinks. Oh, wow. OK, you're right. Nobody cares about using AI to personalize their stuff. I wonder why? That's right. All right, so who picked personalized journeys? Anyone brave? You want to say why? OK, yell it out. What? Andy, you picked it, you're up front. Your easy. Yeah, because there wasn't an. Option C.
None of the above. C None of the above. OK, what about the back? There was a hand raise. Why did you pick personalized journeys? Yell it out. Best customer experience. All right, let's get to the leaderboard. Let's see what that does. We know Andy's going to stay on the board here. All right, Deshawn is the one first, you know. Where's Deshawn? Raise your hand, Deshawn in the back. All right, let's see. Eva. Las Vegas is still hanging tight, so it's been good for
them. And Johnson 6. All right, let's get to the next question. All right, what is a user's favorite MFA method? Let's see what the choices are. Is it a push notification or is it biometric? All right, let's open up for voting. I know everybody loves the push notifications, especially on the spam that you get from it. Fine, yes, yes. OK, you're right on the Facebook, dude. What do you vote? For talking about, people love it. Love it, love it, love it. OK, strong opinions on it.
Let's see. Let's see what the results are here. OK, a little bit of a split there. Biometrics versus push who who selected push notification? All right, so you, Sir, why explain yourself the prevalence of the industry, OK, it's it's, it's known. So there's less training going on with it, OK. But then we said we're fighting to stop people from using. OK, All right, let's see what that does for our standings. All right. OK. Robbie. Robbie. Is it Robbie or Robbie?
Robbie, where? OK, where you at? Sorry, I didn't see it. OK, there you go. All right, we met Robbie last night. The identity beer plugged right down here, tied up with John just hanging tuck up front here. All right, let's do one more question and then we're going to get spicy. So let's go ahead and see him. One more question, what is the least favorite authentication factor? Let's see what the choices are. Text message, SMS, or voice call. All right, let's open voting.
I can tell you right now I don't want anybody to call me ever, ever, never, never call my cell phone or or my office line. That's how I know that nobody really knows me. If they call my office line, I don't even know what my office line is. So if you have that number, you scrap your phone with somewhere. All right, let's see what the audience thinks. Yeah. OK. Thank you very much. I'm Jeff. Have a great week. No. So, yeah, nobody wants a voice call. All right, let's see what that
does for our standings. So Brian, 1% didn't pick SMS. All right, John is taking the lead. Roby slightly behind neither. Las Vegas #7 OK, so I mentioned that we're going to get spicy spicy, so let's get the spicy button in the back. What we're going to do now is we're going to ship this to Battle Royale. So what's going to happen now is instead of seeing 2 answers, you're going to see 4 answers. The goal now is still the same,
pick the majority answer. But here's where the spice comes in. If you pick the least popular answer, your points go back down to 0. So that's why I said everybody will have a chance until the very end to potentially bring out the win. Now you'll still gain points if you choose the, you know, the majority answer, but you're going to see 4 answers now. And if we lose people, and I'm sure we will, it happens, there will be explosions. So get prepared for that.
All right, let's see what our first question is. OK, why is RBAC difficult at scale and our choices are role as shadow IT, access tax role, lack of role ownership for every team insisting that they are unique and special. OK, so let's open up for voting and see what people think. I'm sorry to tell people most of the time they're not special. And so it's tough to build a role for one person that kind of keeps the purpose. And also one of the reasons why
I really don't like our back. I'd much rather start with Ashley for policy days. All right, let's see what we got for answers. OK. All right. So why is it difficult? Yeah. Everybody thinks they're special. A lack of role ownership. Role explosion, shadow. IT got the least amount of answers in the room. So if you pick that, I'm very sorry, but you're about to see an explosion through your name.
Let's go ahead and see what that does to our leaderboard and see where people are at. Let's see. Come on. Explosions. OK, but Shuck is saying here Shook is a shooter. Shuck. Shoot. OK, All right, so Shook is very happy you're in. You're in first place. Pressure's not if you get the wrong answer, you're going back on 0. So let's get to the next question. OK, what is the official Identity and Access Management Architect uniform? Let's see what the answers are.
Is it the company polo? The vendor T-shirt, Blazers and jeans? Jeans or an unwashed hoodie? Sorry to stereotype. Let's open it up for voting. Jim, what are you looking for? Unwashed hoodie. Unwashed. That's the official I am architecting for. It's OK. I would go with. I feel like a company polo is kind of where that typically would stand. That's what I would be wearing. Let's see what people think, OK, Unwashed footy. That is the official architect.
You know, I'm walking around the room. I don't see a lot of unwashed footy. So first of all, thank you. Let's see I'm the holo and AT shirt, Blazers and jeans. You know, I would have thought Blazers and jeans would have been a little higher answer. On this just. Because. Yeah, that's the, that's the business executive, right? OK, All right, let's see what this does for our standings. Come on, Explosions. Oh, Hubert, so long. Sorry. All right, Anna, you're in
first. Now. Where's Anna or Anna? Anna. Very nice. All right, let's get to the next question. I promised there would be explosions and we got this right now. All right. Next question. What is your favorite place to hide A secret? So take that for what you will and the answers will help me get lower explanatory. Is it you put those in environment variables? Is it the key vaults? Is that a hardware security module or the ever popular
sticky note under the keyboard? So let's open it up for voting. Let's see what 83 people think the answer is. I'm assuming this is, you know, height secret so. Production dimension? Well, that's one. It's too embarrassing unless they're trying to blow up their name. Maybe the explosions are very cool. I can see why you might want to do that. Let's see what the the audience thinks. All right, so I know keyboard
place. You probably want to look under people's keyboards in this room and see what's going on. Not many people think about them Baron materials or an HSM. So that makes sense. I think that's probably like the standard answer, right? Put your put your secrets in a secrets hall of some sort. All right, let's see if we've got any explosions. No explosion, but Pete has taken the lead. Where's Pete? Sitting at the end. OK, so Pete might be looking
over your shoulder. You might want to be careful about waiting to go for over there. There's bosses not here. All right, let's get to the next question. All right, what is a protocol that you secretly miss? Isn't? Let's see the answers. LPA has Kerberos or anything that doesn't require reading. Jason, what is something you secretly missed? Of those options, let's open up
for voting. I have a feeling there's a lot of people just don't want to read it for Jason, so I think I'm going to vote for Jason even though not actually fighting. All right, let's see what the people think. The majority do not have no interest whatsoever agreed to face on. And I do not blame you. OK? All right, so who picked LM again in the back? Why did you pick LM? It's the best one. OK, All right, say no more. That's it. OK, let's see what it does for
our leaderboard. Any solutions? One. Marco. Boom. Sorry, Marco, keep playing. We get back on top. All right, Pete, Nana's still at the top. Let's go to the next question. All right, what is your most hated specialized key? So the answers will help make this a little more easy to understand and see what those are. Is it F5, the insert button, the Caps lock key, or any key that
weighs the computer up? So your specialized key in your keyboard, which is your favorite or say your most, your least favorite, your hated, which is easy. Let's open up a. Book Oh, it's got to be caps lock. Caps lock got to be caps lock. How many fat finger passwords because of caps lock? Or documents they get to paste them the word do translation from caps on to. Send to piece. We have the app for that now. All right. Caps Lock. Yeah, not surprise.
OK, so caps lock is the majority answer. Let's see what that does for our scoreboard. OK, so Deshawn, that the first place here. Let's see. And now we've got not John Lennon. So we've got John Lennon and then not John Lennon. I'm guessing it's somebody at this table. Yes. You've got to work on your poker face because I could immediately tell us like, all right, that's it. All right, All right, let's see the next question here. All right, what do you want to be responsible for?
Let's see the answers are conference AP setup, bad standing reliability, room change notifications or keeping the snack tables fold. So if you're working a conference, so guys in the back, Chris, Chris, you should hopefully you're fighting. I see you got your phone out. You shouldn't play. OK, let's open up for voting and see what you would most want to be responsible for. I feel like I do a lot of conferencing. You set up just because of what we.
Do. But yes, the most important thing, the most important thing you can charge the most. Important thing that is for sure. All right, let's see what the people think, OK? The people have spoken and they want their snacks. So, all right, let's see what that does for our leaderboard. Deshawn. Where's Deshawn? It's still in the back here, OK. Brilliant. All right, Deshawn, you're, you're taking up a pretty good lead here. Is he should still up there. Rachel. Where's Rachel?
Sitting back there. OK. All right. Any questions? Majors in this in college. All right, let's get to the next question, 84 people. What is the best way to secure an API key? Let's see what the answers are. Is it just hash it, rotate it, don't use it, or let's pray nobody likes you as a way to store that API, the key. Let's open it up for voting. What do you think, Jim? I I mean I'm thinking cash it or rotate it are probably the the. 2. Best ways?
Yeah, but I voted for the worst way, which is probably because. Checks so he's playing the game, but I don't see you on the beer board though yet. No, I got blown up because I OK. Yeah, I forgot. So people are getting individually going up if you're not in the top 20. So sorry. All right, let's see what the answers are. Yeah, OK. Pray nobody checks GitHub and rotate it off and don't use it or action. That makes sense. OK, let's see what the next question brings us.
Actually don't. Let's see what the leaderboard does for us here if we got any explosions. What's that Keenan? Sorry, Keenan, very public blow up with that, but Viva Las Vegas takes over his side. So all right, let's get to the next question here. Anna's back in first place. Shawn and Anna, you get it up here a little bit. All right, what is the secret to surviving keynotes? No offense, Andy. All right, let's see what our answers are.
Is it the chair selection strategy pre reading with that, staying off the Wi-Fi for a shot every time someone says AI could drink? All right, let's open Guster voting. So I will tell you, for me, it's a chair selection strategy. I don't care what do people say, I am always in the back, as evidenced by open tables up here. Most people sitting in the back here, I think people are with me. I don't stay off the Wi-Fi, otherwise you're in your e-mail,
your messages, etcetera. Well, so the opposite of that is, you know, no offense, but if it's a bad keynote, the Wi-Fi might be how you survive it. Because that's true. That's. True. So I'm just saying not not that our keynotes here are not good. They're great. All right let's see what the vote is All right so they want snacks and they want drinks cause look at an excuse for shots in the crowds for AI 21% of the people are with me in my chair selection strategy.
Where's my 21% at? Raise your hand at raise your hands All right, Sean's with me at the back, all right and yes and they are all sitting in the back so just. All those, Sean did the same. You, Sean, did. No, Sean, not to Sean. D Sean. Yeah, OK, let's see what the scoreboard looks like here. All right, Sean, back in first place and let's see any other interesting things, people. Las Vegas climbing the ladders. OK, All right, let's get to the next question.
We got a few minutes left still. All right, what is the biggest bottleneck in ITA? So identity, governance, administration, let's see what our choices are. Is it the requirements gathering, the connector development, user acceptance testing, or arguments over what a department is? So let's open up for voting and see. ITA seems like it's such a simple thing to deploy until you actually have to talk to the business and then you have major problems.
So let's see what people think, what you vote for. I vote for requirements, but I think the last 1 is pretty interesting. I wish. To change, you want to change it to the department, to what a department is, Yeah. That's like too late. Too late. Sorry. All right, let's see what the the audience thinks. Oh, OK, yeah, so people probably had this who's ruled on IG and had this discussion. Wow, OK, a lot of people. John, I'm going to put you on the spot.
Tell me about this story real quickly. Oh, there's a certain SAS vendor where I may have worked, and we often got caught up in the entomology and taxonomy of language because we had no cohesive organizational definitions. OK. So you people weren't thinking the same same language, you know, the same. Definition. What's a business? You know what's an apartment, right? And then you have to have that same conversation with a free single business unit, right? Indeed. Fun times.
Let's see what that does for our leaderboard. OK, Deshawn hanging tough, no explosions, but maybe where there were individual explosions on the audience. All right, let's get to the next question. We got a couple minutes left. So what is the primary cause of roll explosion? Not to be confused with majority rules explosion. So what's that the answers here? There's a granular permission slack of cleanup that design for a just one rule for the new guy. Let's open it up for voting.
Kind of similar to the question. You had earlier, but. What causes role exposure? For me, I think it's bad design. I think you like cleanup. It's just like you keep piling war crap on top of the old crap. Also an option. Let's see if either let's see the categories of those. Just one rolls with this new guy. All right, all right, everyone's special. I take it back. All right, let's do what it does for our meter board. It's always better on green. Ek. Sorry, we're intent.
Sean. Rachel P Carson. All right, let's get to the next question. Again, we're playing for a free ticket to Identiverse next year. And a sticker. So high private here, first rate after a schema update. What breaks first? Is it the HRV custom scripts, third party connectors or the architects will to live? All right, let's open it up for
voting and see what happens. Hopefully the hopefully we have stronger willed architects that can stomach a little adversity in their organization because of course that's what happened and let's see. All right, tell me you're at a conference's bunch of architects without telling me that you're at a conference a bunch of architects. All right, let's see what that is for our leaderboard. OK, Deshawn, first place. Killing it all, right? So this is probably where we'll do our last question.
So there's no pressure whatsoever on Deshawn to make sure that he does not pick the least popular answer. If he does, again, we still have opportunities. Let's see what this last question is. What is the fastest way to confuse a user answers? Is it ask for their IP address, ask for their browser version, mention federation, or ask them to clear their cache. All right, let's see what the answer is. 84 people are going to vote on this and we're going to see if Deshawn hangs on.
No pressure Deshawn, he's thumbs up. He's confident, he's locked in. Jim, what do you vote for? I. Picked IP address but I think. Any of these did actually confuse. Her most or the least. Users are so very easily confused. All right, let's see what happens here. Most people ask them to clear their cache by a pretty wide margin. Nobody thinks. Everybody thinks they can get their browser version pretty easily. OK, All right, drumroll. Let's see. Did Deshawn. Hang on, let's see what our
answers are. Or in our our computer board. He did, but we lost David Leo. All right, so let's hit that winner button for Deshawn. Congratulations, Deshawn, the winner of the slicker like dummy in the center majority rules. There we go. Animations, sound effects. So you probably noticed some cameras, some microphones. If it turned out well, you'll see this as an episode on our podcast probably in a few weeks. So again, I'm Jeff, that's Jim, and thank you very much. Enjoy my next everyone.
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