#3: How a dispute can lead to unity
Aug 20, 2025•54 min
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Episode description
Difficult conversations are almost always about something under the surface, and hidden. In his third Massey Lecture, Ian Williams illustrates what we’re listening for isn’t always obvious. He explains how personal conversations aren't about finding answers — it's for communion. *The 2024 CBC Massey Lectures originally aired in November.
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