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Forever Young

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In this episode, we discuss Jenny's anxiety update, Falen's weekend in Nashville, the bear vs. man debate and more!
Also, we wanted to offer a discount code for Earth Echo Cacao Bliss. Fet 15% off when you use code: FUN! https://shop.earthechofoods.com/fun

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Jenny, I was thinking yeah, on the way in, I don't know why. I was like, if Jenny and I had a shirt, what would it say? And I was like, would it just say butt stuff? Oh? I do like that because we talk about butt stuff so much, between hemorrhoids, potty bidet, toots, guts, paints. Yeah, I was gonna make gut issues eating eating something and it affecting you. But butt stuff implies something else. But maybe that's funny. But then would anyone

wear a shirt this is butt stuff? Don't you remember? We didn't, I know, make it, but we went to Valley Fair. Yes I couldn't make it. Somebody and I was waiting in line and someone had a shirt that said show me your buttthole on it, and I like, it's so gross, it's so appropriate. And Valley Fair, by the way, the one of the most inappropriate spots you could pick to wear a hat like

that. So I think but stuff might be a little like it could be small BS and then people could be like, oh, it's just a BS, but our true people know it stands for butt stuff. I do like that. I do like that. It's not gonna happen, but I know we're not getting merch. It's no chance. I was also gonna throw out, even though we don't talk about this much on the podcast, but Fallen has her classic line that she texts me every once. It's been a minute,

now, i's been a while, no a bit. Okay, Well let's say that line first and then we'll talk about the thing that we do send each other quite often now. So the first thing is is Fallen will text me and be like you fucking or you sucking, and so usually I'm obviously never doing either. There's a poll. There was a poll. Yeah, just a poll. Yeah, casual mid middle of the day poll that she'll text one day though, I think one of the last times you did

text me I'm actually doing one of the things. You took a while to respond. She's like, I was just actually doing I was like, oh wow, I was that never times out And then you sent me because there was like during the middle of your show, so it's in the mididlea afternoon, and then you sent me a beautiful video of Ted from from Motions singing afternoon to Light. I forgot about that, but anyways, I need you to start sending me those texts more often I missed that I am slacking.

Yeah. But then our other bit, which also was fell and started it is she'd like grab your attention, so she'd do this door during the morning show, and she'd grab your attention. You look over and she's flipping you off. It's but now there's all these tiktoks and Instagram reels of people like looking like they're about to do something cool and then all of a sudden they put their hand up and they're flipping you off. So Pall and I send

each other. I don't know why. My favorite one still is the cowboy boot one, you know, or it's like it comes over in cowboy boots and you think it's legs, but it's like not, and then it's a hand that comes out and flips you off, and I'm just so unexpected. Why they're so funny? Yes, I love it good bit. So yeah, we could get that, and we could get like a flipping someone off emoji on a shirt too. I do like that got with something like the

worst people I know. Well, we'll sell farts too, and bidets, little travel bidets or something. If we had our own booth at the State Fair, we would sell traveling bidets. Yes, that would be clutch. What if we had like just two bathroom stalls and to test them out, we would be the hottest bathroom at the state Fair. I think we would

because we want that title. I mean no, probably not, because there is always like a couple bathrooms that are just absolutely filthy, and so then if they're like coming to ours and then just like completely demolishing it, then we won't be the hottest bathroom in the No, it's true. I was telling my friends about the grossest porta potti I've ever experienced in my life, and it was in Washington State, in Forks, Yes, where Twilight Is

was filmed. We pull up because we're doing like Olympic National Park, and my sister in law to be Laura goes, oh my god, years ago when I was here, it was at a gas station porta potty outside. She goes, that was the most disgusting porta potty I've ever been to. And I was like, hilarious. I get out because I gotta go so bad. I open the door, the shit is up to the seat. I have never in my life seen a porta potty where the poop is up to the Actually, I was like, oh, I come running out.

The woman from the gas station comes outside and she goes, there are bathrooms inside. She must have seen me. And I go, oh, thank god, and I come in. She goes, yeah, they haven't like come to empty it from the weekend. I go, that's for the weekend, like walking into it. Yes, And I was like God, And I told Laura, I'm like, well, it's still the most disgusting porta potty. Ever, how funny. And then so now it lives on is the most disgusting porta potty I think in the United States. Gosh, I

mean mine probably was over one of the country festivals I've been to. Oh god, yeah, it was always And let me tell you, those things were emptied pretty consistently. I had. We would be partying all day in the camp grounds whatever, and like the big old trucks would come through empty in the port of potties and that's when we'd like all rush at right after you like, oh right, freshies, freshies. That's amazing. So this

is we're gonna talk about on like our show. But I also it was so funny because my mom, because she does literally nothing but scroll all day, she actually does know what's going on trending wise a lot. So I went to Nashville this weekend and we were all in the car and it's my sister, my niece, myself, my mom, my sister's old neighbor Jen, and her daughter Kenna. Because they're like best friends and they're amazing.

I like love them, and then my brother in law, So all women and my brother in law and my mom was like, have you seen the thing with the bear and the man? And I said Nope, can't say that I have. And so she said, would you rather, as a woman encounter, if you're alone in the woods, encounter a bear or a man? And I sat there and I was like, this is a thing

going on. I was so confused for a minute. And everyone's like everyone starts going bear, Bear, Bear, And then my brother in law was like so annoyed because he's the only guy in the car, and he's like, wait, seriously, you guys would all choose a bear over a guy? And everyone was like yes, and he was like, you know, kind of having the same this is. So it's a popular video on TikTok

where a girl asked it. Almost all women say the bear, and then men are getting like so annoyed by it because they're like, that's so because most men have the response of I'm a good guy. That's so shitty that you would like rather run into a bear, And the women say it's because we know exactly what we're getting with the bear, Like we know, yeah, if it's a grizzly bear, we're probably gonna die. If the black bear, maybe we can get away. But we know exactly what we're getting

with the bear. We have no idea what we're getting with the man. Because the man could be like the brother in law, my brother in law, who would be like, ah, yeah, here it's this way, like let me help you out, super kind person, and that's what the majority of men would be like. But we've seen too many things or had too many personal experiences to know it is not one hundred percent going to go like that. Yeah, it could be like the horrible stories you see where

you're chained up and trapped in someone's house forever. And so it's been a really interesting debate. I was actually surprised my mom chose the bear as well, because my mom is like, she's like gets pretty. She and I disagree on a lot of things. That and so, but I was actually surprised she said the bear and I was like, okay, And I've sort

of seen some of the debates. I don't think i've seen more of just like memes or something on Instagram. Yeah that I haven't really seen any of the TikTok like conversations about it. But yeah, I mean when I saw the question, I was like, you're right. I think I would be really creeped out running into if is the scenario just you'rre in the woods this I believe that I have the video and I didn't. I like grabbed it,

but I haven't like completely watched it yet. And the idea is, yeah, you're alone in the woods and you and you get to choose you encounter them a man or a bear. Then I would say, yeah, give me that bear. I mean, I go for walks and it's still light out and I am like on high alert at all times of any random person that's just like driving and slowing down by me and stuff. And it's like, if I saw a bear, I know I'm dead. Like, let's be honest, I'm probably dead. Yeah, I mean, don't get

me wrong, I don't want to encounter a bear. That's not like we're asking for. Like if when we're in a national park, I'm like on high alert too, Like what's that noise? Is there a bear around there? What's it going to do? I don't have bear spray. I'd probably spreare myself on accident. I would have to do bear spray with you to the national parks you're going to. I didn't want. I was gonna say I didn't Glacier I'm going to when we go to BAMF because that is like

Grizzly bear Central. I'm doing one of the gondolas where you actually they say it's like a high grizzly spotting zone, but you'll be in a gondola. Well, I'm not bringing the spray with me. I'm that sorry. I should have. Oh okay. I was like, you can't fly with it, as you know, right, So well you got fair. I got in one way, but that's because that way I didn't check if I had beariss brain. I know. My back was like you got barrass braid and I was like, yeah, what's the big deal. Yeah. So they're

like you're going to buy it when you get there. I'm like, great, how expensive is it gonna be when we get to Canada. I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure that much more expense. Why are you doing that trip again, June? Okay, we're very early season for bamp so I'm really really I didn't know that, you know, yeah, because you would kind of just assume

it's like summer weather like here. Yeah. I think I think the weather wise it'll be like average and decent, but it's if there's still snow on some of the trails. But I'm just hoping maybe they had like a winter similar to hours, so it'll be like fine, I'm hoping. I don't know, we'll see. I don't have that answer for you. I just saw the fuck Jenny. Well, I know I was gonna say. I know that the East Coast I got hit more with snow than it has because

it was a el Ninal. I have really good friends that do a show in Canada. I believe in that area, so I should just text them and ask. I remember them having videos of how cold it was at one point because they were like it was where they were the ones making the videos where you lift like the noodles like the ramen out and they freeze in the air. And I was like, oh, but I don't know if it

was snow wise or it was just like so cold. So to ask them, you were in Nashville for your niece's graduation, right, I can't believe she's graduated college already. I know that's college. Yeah, college. It's crazy. And it was so interesting because we like, first of all, the ceremony, we were there for freaking ever. I mean we got there at like one to save seats. It started at three thirty. I was like, no one told me it started at three thirty. One cool thing.

The graduation speaker, he was an animator for Disney for ten years, and so he was like, you may have seen some of my work, and he was like, the snowballs and beauty and the Beast was mine, he said. The Simba's mom bathing him was him. The Pocahontas's hair he said, because that was a character in itself. That was him. And then like some stuff with like Jafar and Iago or whatever. But I was like, that is so cool. But he quit because he had no life.

He was only working and he had kids, and he was like, I want to like, well, he's religious too. He's like, I want to like do something with more purpose, and I also want to like actually be around for my family. So he quit. But he for ten years had like his like dream job, and he started when he was like twenty three too, which is crazy, like right out of like school, got that job and he built his way up. But also so not only

that guy, but I texted Jenny the graduation party. My niece's graduation party was like her and five friends had like a combined party. One of the gals from Survivor was there. Never watched the show in my life, but I was like, oh, Jenny and Tina love Survivor. I gotta get a picture with this woman. She was super nice. Yeah, Mama Julie,

Mama Julie, Mama Jay. She was one of the people we thought was going to probably make it till the end because she played a really good physical game, but also like social game is a huge part of it too. Okay, so she was in good like circles and had good allies and stuff. But the problem was she was so liked by everyone that in the end it comes down to three people and then everyone the last ten people that got voted out. Maybe it's twelve. They vote on who they think should

win the million dollars, so they knew she would get voted on. I can't remember exactly what happened, but I think she got a little blindsided to get her out because they knew everyone loved her and she would most likely win, So I knew she would make it pretty far. I wasn't surprised she didn't make it till the end, though, because the point of the game is obviously to win the money, and if you're up against someone that everyone loves, yep, you're not gonna win the money. So my brother in

law loves that. He wants to audition for the show. He's asking for tips from our stuff, and I go, Brian, you would be the villain. My brother in law is one of those like everyone loves him, but he will do shady shit to advance himself. Yeah, like with no remorse. And I'm like, you would be a villain. But I think he'd be a villain that people like, kind of like and kind of make people laugh, But he would be I would. I mean, I don't

watch it religiously. I watch it since Andrew and I started living Together. I watch it pretty frequently, but I just don't think the villains ever. They do. Don't get me wrong, they have one before because people appreciate like the game aspect of it. Sometimes when the villain gets all the way to the end. Yeah, but a lot of times it's more down to like the social and stuff, but also like your pitch. Everyone gets kind of like a pitch I think at the end to be like this is why

I should get the money, blah blah blah. And everyone also gets to ask a million questions and so of course everyone hurt because they somehow got blindsided. Most likely to be voted off. Gotcha, But yeah, it's I was. I didn't. Truthfully, I'm happy Tina was in that text like combo with us, because that first picture you sent it was like a side angle of her and I was like, I don't know who the fuck that is. I took a creepy picture. I took a creepy picture because at

first, and I was like, why am I doing that? She's like it wasn't like she was at a celebrity signing, like she was there interacting and she was like really proud of being on that show and being known from that show, like which I would be too. Yeah, so she like loved talking about it and interacting. I would absolutely be the same as hers too. Well, did you have a good time in Nashville? Did you do anything? It was mostly just like graduations anything in Nationale nothing like Nashville.

Uh huh. No. We stopped and we went to Jenny's ice Cream, which that's everywhere now, and I didn't get any because I had just eaten like all the desserts at the graduation party. And I was like, what is wrong with you people? Why do you want ice cream? Like well, one ish cream? I was like, all right, that's fair, that's fair. I did not Well, I had like stuff going on this weekend, but not anything super exciting. I'm just like, I'm really

leaning into and an older lady. Now. I noticed your boos look like they're sagging a little bit. Well, those have been taking for a while, but the goodness, my nipples haven't, so they still appear to be perfier than what they are. When you take your top off, your nips just sing forever. Yeah, exactly, that's a fautiful that's such a disturbing image, you know what? That just why did this image just pop in

my head? Remember in easy A when she opens up the cart, I just like think about that if I like flash my boobs right now, I want to be love that for you, Jenny. Mine have never been like that. I think at birth mine we're a little like downward facing. Not really. I mean I think my nips are okay. I think my nips are pretty central, but my boobs, yeah, they've lost a little gravity.

The best part about what this conversation just turned into was the fact that I was about to go into the fact that I am a gardener now and now we're talking about sage boobs and high and or normal size or not normal size. But everyone's nipples are normal. Yeah, Jenny know what I'm saying. What I say when making me feel it, my nips aren't normal. Hey. Also, I did see you do your gardening. I'm very proud of you. Thank you. I mean you should fucking know your mom literally

does landscaping. If you didn't know anything, i'd question you. But I tell you, Andrew had zero trusted me, Like as if I didn't fucking grow up with a mom who, like her entire life is landscaping. And I used to work with her in summers. Now, granted, I was more of your bulky like beastie girl who helped I carried the molt ended rock and stuff. I didn't do so much of the actual planting of plans.

Your mom just yality and like hey, thicky, grab the mult God, those were like some of my She's like, I got a molt job on Wednesday, you're coming along? And I was like, y, But so I do know how to garden. I just have never really gotten into it, even though my mom loves to. Did she give you are those irises you put in? Or are they daffodils or tulips? There's daffodils and iris is I look at me. I'm a genius, Jenny, I know. And of course, like those are only going to last for however long and

then but at least they're perennials, so they'll come back every year. It's nice. Yeah. And then there's like a whole other section. I didn't even show that, like circles around our sun room that I also did that was mostly hostas. But this dog caper that we watch all the time, I love him. That little shit started eating all the hostas and so they weren't planned, and we're just like, yeah, positioning them. I'm like FaceTime on my mom. She's telling me where to put things, how to

do it whatever. I thought you knew how to do it, and now I'll do it. So you I didn't tell make the story. I ride your blog and my mom sends me along. Okay, So I didn't see where Cindy was on FaceTime during that video of you just doing it all on your own number one, she got a shout out as the landscape designed by caption, so she does get credit, yes, but we're on FaceTime and

my mom just like thought it was hilarious. And I was like shocked because she used to get so angry when bunnies would eat plants in our yard. And she's like, Joe Caper again, see what he does. And I was like okay, and so like Caper's running around and the next thing I know, he is like just fully grabs one of the plants, runs across the yards. Oh my god, a monster egg Caper. So anyways, he was my little buddy. He didn't eat any of the plans of the video. I did, but it was fun and I did it well.

But Andrew thought it was going to take like four hours, and it took me. It took me probably like two and a half because I was recording videos and looking at whatever. But my mom so she gave me all of the plants. She also gave me like mushroom composts and eggshells and all this shit. So that's why I was like, Mom, I don't understand what I'm doing. I thought I just dug a hole and put the damn planned in, Like what. And she's like, well, you need to mix

those things together. Put it in the hole, mix it in the hole. Then you need to dig it back out. And I was like, why am I putting it in the hole and then digging it back out? And then my sister's like, uh, my little sister lives at home. She's like, you need to like fertilize it first, and she's chiming in and I was like what. I was like, can you just watch what I'm doing and tell me if I'm doing about Okay? Yeah, I so I do not do any of that stuff, but I did, like by

just stuff this weekend too, because we keep trying to add arts. The people who lived in our house before us did such a beautiful job, and we Dolly has ruined everything as far as well not everything. The big tree by our front door had hostas all around it. Dolly was laying on them. That was her spot. So she killed most of those and like put

pee and stuff all those things. But like we also have like that weird stuff where like there's you know where we have rock and different things like and then there will be like that material that you use for landscaping under and then it's hard to dig and it's so annoying. So we have to find like good spots for it. But I found a free rosebush this weekend on Marketplace. Jenny Oh. I was like, Jake, we're going to Chaska. Get in the car and I was a grab of shovel and gloves. He's

like, what did we sign up for? And he I made him get out because all of fell sleep in the car and go dig it up with this woman in Chaska. You had to go dig it up. She didn't show that. No, that's the road you you want it. It's free, but you got to dig it out. But she helped him. He was like out there, Jenny, this was like intense. It was like he was digging up a tree. It was so much more than he thought it was. They were both out there sweating. They're roll on both sides.

It was a huge roast bush. Should say A probably was big and B the roots of that are probably pretty hard to get out. Yeah, and you need obviously the right amount of roots for it to like be transported. He got it. He got it. So we went got some plants at a store anyway, because I'm trying to just get more perennials because I'm too lazy for those annual bullshit. And we haven't planted the rose bush. Yep, we have that and my winter seeds. So I've planted my first

little babies from the ground or into the ground. Are you proud of them? Ja? I am proud. Did you show it to me somehow? I put it on my Instagram stories, but now I deleted it. Yea, I did see something. You deleted it or it's not there anymore. I don't let I have a hard time letting things expire on my Instagram stories. Now I'll be like, oh, I'm bored with that, and I'll

delete it. I don't know what's going on with me, Okay. It also like You're one of the top people that normally show up at like the beginning of stories when I go to Instagram because you're obsessed with me going it is, and same for you and mind. My algorithm has been weird lately that all of a sudden, I'll look and it'd be like twenty hours ago a new story from Fallon and I hadn't seen it, And I was like, what the fuck? Why did I not see this already? Aren't you

clicking on me anymore? Showing up my front one? So I was like, what happened there? But anyways, yeah, gardening. It was super fun and you also learned what gardening means recently. That doesn't mean guardening with plans, I know. I didn't know that it was taking at a bowl or smoking. I didn't know that, and I only saw I saw that on TikTok like five months ago. A girl was doing like a story time.

She's like, you know, I was guardening the other day, blah blah blah, she's going into it, and I go, she wasn't guardening, Yeah, what what was she by that? And whatever? And then I finally realized what it was. So now I've started to see it more and more. Yep, but yeh smoking weed. Hey guys, right after this, I'm gonna give you a little update on my anxiety. We've talked about it in the past, but first I just want to chat real quick

about cacaw Bliss. Fallon and I have been talking about this stuff for a couple of months now. Yep, it's so good. I know that Fallon has been working it into some recipes at home, but for me personally, I just stumbled upon this instagram where she does all these overnight oats and it's just different kinds of flavors of stuff. But I worked in the cacaw blest to one of them recently and it's probably my favorite one. But it's very

simple. You basically just make your oats overnight, you put in the cacaw Bliss, they sit overnight, it's ready to go in the morning, and it's just a delightful, healthy dessert. Uh huh. So I've been loving that. Okay, that's kind of what almost like minds like a healthy dessert also, and it's three ingredients, high protein and if you don't like cottage cheese, don't freak out because you're not even gonna know there's cottage cheese in

there. That's like what a lot of people are doing with like pasta sauces and stuff too. But it's literally one cup cottage cheese, two tablespoons of the cacaw bless, and then two tablespoons of pure maple syrup and then you put that like a blender or food processor, and then you pour it in like one of those little dishes. And it's chocolate mouse and it's so good. She showed me a video just not yea, it's delights. You want to refrigerate for thirty minutes. You got to throw that out there that,

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all that out when you go to the website. Enjoy the promo code though for fifteen percent off with fun. Now back to the podcast real quick. So I haven't talked about this on the podcast yet, but I thought I would bring it up because it has been a pretty consistent conversation with Fallon and

I over the last handful of months. But I've talked about obviously having some anxiety issues as of recent and I had mentioned like I'm going to look into maybe get a medicine and all that stuff, and I just wanted to give a little bit of an up date that I am actually taking anti anxiety medication

now. And I already had a full breakdown on the morning show today, So I'm not going to break down on the podcast, right nice okay about it, But I am not going to lie and say it was like really hard for me to schedule that appointment and start taking the medicine because I don't know why I don't. I understand that brains can have chemical imbalances, and medicine is to put you back in balance, and I totally like I get that in everything, but for some reason, it felt like it was the

easy way out for me, or actually, I shouldn't say that. I don't think it was an easy way out. I think I had such a fear that it wouldn't work that I was scared to even try it. That was like an which is just like anxiety at its prime, like immediately assuming the worst, you know, And so I think it was a lot of that, but like also a little bit of the stigma of taking medication, because I mean, for the most part, I do a lot of things to keep my mental health at a good place. So yeah, I just

started. I'm almost at like three weeks, and my psychiatrist did say it'll probably take about three weeks to really like start kicking in. A lot of people say six to eight weeks really And I can definitely tell that there's been a difference because philon noses I was hitting some really low lows, like it had gotten pretty bad, like I was isolating myself. I wasn't looking forward to doing things I was anxious doing normal things that I would never be anxious

about doing because of a fear of feeling anxious. Like it's just this fucking cycle that happens when you start to get into this mental state with anxiety. So I just had gotten to such a bad point that I was like, I have to try something new, yeah, because everything I have been doing is not working anymore. And I'm still seeing a therapist because when I talked about it on the show, people were like, make sure you still talk

to your therapist, that's important. I totally am still gonna see my therapist, and that has been helpful as well. But like I said, it just was to a point where I needed more help than what therapy was giving me. And so I'm like getting back to what I feel is more of my normal self. But I'm not going to lie and say that I'm normal.

It has been a major roller coaster in the last few weeks. Like one week I felt awful, the next week I felt completely fine, and then the next week I had like a few bad days a few good days, and it's just kind of all over the place. Yeah, So I just wanted to say thank you to I know from talking about it on this podcast. A lot of people have reached out to me, have given me

their experience about medication and truthfully hearing that really it did help me. It did help me hear from other people that they were kind of similar in their ways. I'm like, I don't need medication, and it helped them. So I think that it was really helpful, and I hope be talking about it can maybe help you if you've been considering doing it, and even if it doesn't work right away. I will say one thing that Falan said to me last week, because I was having a really hard time. Now I'm

going to start crying. I was just having such a bad day because I was like not doing good, doing good, then not doing good again, and I was upset because it had been a couple of weeks of taking the medicine, so I thought I would just be on the up and up. And I was like, I'm stressed, like what if the medication doesn't work whatever? And Fallan literally just was like, you can't think that way. It's going to work, and if it doesn't work, they'll put you on

something else and they'll figure it out. And it's like sometimes someone just like giving you that reassured. It really helps you when you're spiraling and thinking it like just feeling that way. So yes, I just want to say for anyone who maybe you're just trying medication for the first time, like give it some time and if it really after a while is not working, then talk to your doctor and try something else. I haven't gotten to that point yet.

I think that mine has been working. But yeah, so if you want to hear more tears, you can definitely listen to the Morning Joe podcast because they all came out this morning. But I know, I came in and I was like, any will you do a video? And she was like not today. I cried all day in the morning shadow, Oh god, what happened. When he told me, I was like, oh okay, I was like sorry. I was like, god, okay, well, I'm glad you. I think it probably also will help just that you

got that off your chest. It did in general, it really did, and like I never want I truly, I just I wish that people. I know that the world is a hard place sometimes, but like I truly never wish upon anyone to have anxiety, depression, any kind of mental health issues. Like I really I feel your pain, and I haven't experienced all kinds of different ones that other people have experienced, you know, but I feel your pain of just wanting your brain to be happy and good and feel

normal. But I do really love that I have a platform to be able to talk about it with the podcast here, but then also the morning show because to just hear the interaction I've had just from our podcast talking about it, but then on the show this morning, like if it helps even one person talking about it, like it makes me feel better that I talked about it because I was nervous to talk about it on the show. I mean

I immediately started feeling anxious, Yeah, just going into the conversation. And then I would just also say that like if you have never experienced stuff yourself, but you know someone else who's going through some mental health issues, just like being there for them and asking how they are is like one of the best things you can do. And sometimes they don't want to talk about it,

and sometimes they do. And then one thing I would say to not do is don't tell someone to stop overthinking things, and don't tell them to just get up and go for a walk, because when you're not in a good mental space, You're not able to do things that you normally would do.

It's just it's just not how it works. And I've just I've had both ends where I've had the very supportive friends like Fallin and Andrew and so many other people, But then I've had other people I'm very close to who have told me, like, your life is good, like what do you like? What is what's making you so anxious? And it's like I wish

I knew. If I knew and I get to stop it, I would, yeah, because yeah, So anyways, that was a little mental health update, and I think also very appropriate with it being mental health Awareness months. Absolutely well, I'm so happy that you did it, and I can't I'll never know what you've gone through mentally as your friend, as someone who

loves you. It's been very hard to watch because you are just a strong, independent person, and like that, I think that you start questioning that about yourself, like like you, it makes you think that you're like weak and like what's wrong with me? And I'm ruining everyone around me their lives and why am I like this? And like all the things, And then that just makes it even worse that you're thinking like that, and all your friends and the ones that truly love you really want is just you to be

happy and to and to get back where you feel good. And so I know how scared you were about the medication. And then it wasn't even just like that. It was like such a fucking process to find someone in network and that could do it. It was like, such, I'm like, dude, this should be a lot easier. It's not even like you like imagine now, and it makes you think about people who don't even have insurance,

like Jesus. So I was just so proud of you for continuing continuing to because there were just like so many like stop signs along the way, like halting you from just trying to do this thing that you were already stressed out about. So I was really happy you found it and you were able to go through with it and try something different. Yeah, I like will say this as someone who is very frugal, I had gotten to such a point where like I didn't care about if I was going to save money or

not. I just like needed to find someone. But Fallan knows that I went through this process of just calling and trying to make sure someone was in network and trying to make sure something was covered, and we got screwed before because liked, not through that, but through something else where they said they were in the network and then you got the bill and like nope, we

weren't, like what the hell? Yeah, So I just on top of like feeling anxious, I didn't want, like, I also have a lot of anxiety when it comes to money, so I didn't want to add that pile that back on. So I was just trying for a while. But I will say that, like, your mental health is worth so much more than like saving some money. And if you're at a point where you just feel really like so so low like and you need help, just get it

and you'll figure out the bill later. Because I had gotten to that point where I did figure it out, but I was to the point where I was like, I don't care anymore. I'm just scheduling this appointment and if my insurance covers it, great, If it doesn't, it doesn't, but I need like the help. So yeah, but I want to just I know we get all like mushy gushy on here sometimes, but I want to say just like thank you to Falin because she's always been such a friend.

No, you have well been some less friend of me through everything, and it's like ditto. It's so nice to come in and like have someone to talk to a but then someone who will listen, and even if you don't maybe understand exactly what I'm going through, you give such reassuring advice, you know, like especially when you're feeling like anxiety and depression and you're just like you're not seeing like the good of the future, and Fallin just always like

helped me see a lot of things. And I I have to give Andrew a big shout out to because that man has I mean I have cried in my bed and he has once again I'm going to get sad. He is like laid there with me and like been there for me. So yeah, yeah, thank you. Well, we love you. I know Andrew loves you so much. So just and you're also like just the best friend too, so you always are there for me, and I know you're there for

Andrew too, So we're all we're all so lucky have each other. Yeah, well, thank you for sharing that because I think that will help people, and that is like the point of like what we do I mean, we obviously like free concert tickets, yes, but it's nice to be like, if we experienced something, kind of like normalize it or talk about it and hopefully help people fill us alone. I think that's always our goal with the things that we do, most of them. Some things are just annoying

and we acknowledge that and that's who we are. We can't change that. So like when you said that, when I flash someone, it sounds like this forever. Yeah, for sure, went back down. I think, well, I think that's it. Thank you for listening. Have a great week.

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